"Doesn't really hurt anymore" such powerful words that made peter realize he shouldn't bother anymore. He just wants everyone to feel safe and not let anything happen to them because of him.
@@aro327 imo your point doesn't disprove that Peter is trying to care for MJ but its part of why its so bittersweet that he's making this decision. May is dead because she was involved in his super-heroics. When Peter sees the bandaid on MJ's forehead, he must have been reminded of May, and he realizes that he can protect MJ and Ned by breaking his promise, and the only one who has to hurt is him. Ned and MJ can't be hurt by a broken promise they can't remember.
@@jessicavelasquez7035 if you die, it's not you who has to live with that. Its ultimately Peter's choice in who he wants to put in danger and he decided he wanted to put their safety above his own selfish desires.
This was the Peter Parker I grew up with. The one who sacrifices his happiness for the safety and well-being of others. This brought me back to the Tobey days
Added to how he proved it to Strange by allowing him to make everyone forget him entirely, for the sake of reality Similar to how he proved it to Tony by turning down the offer to join the Avengers
It was a telling scene that Peter became willing to let go of his friends so that they could have the life they longed for, knowing that being associated with him deprived them of it. Even though Peter knew if given the choice they would align with him even if it meant missing out on their dreams, he wouldn't dare take that away from them. Losing May showed Peter that he could and should bear the responsibility and requisite sacrifices...alone!
These two kids are really good actors. This is next level acting. The whole scene was done purely with facial expressions and they nailed it. Really well done!
I've had a relationship where I had to do the same... sometimes you do more damage by trying to be selfish and keep people in your lives, then just letting them go. If they were meant to be there and stay, they will be. And if not, well... not every story has a happy ending.
Pete's smile at 3:09 damn hits hard so bittersweet, he smiled knowing that she's gonna be ok and knowing that they'll be safe and happy even without him.
I hope they stick to the consequences of this ending and they allow Tom Holland's Peter to meet new friends and find a new true love. This ending was perfect in that it allowed him as well to move on and to make a sacrifice that means something
@@2Good2BeTrue45 i dont think so thats what they should do. so u are suggesting he should love gwen and put her in danger but he shouldnot recognile with mj what kind of lam reason is that its like he dont care for anyone else he love except for mj. i know it will be real fast if they recognile in sm 4 but i think by the end of next triology they will be united and starting a new life together and that mj will find the truth herself instead of peter telling her the truth. and they will introduce miles and gwen and continue their story in his triology while peter as their mentor and mj in cameos like how pepper and tony carried their relationship throughout the mcu
@@blueskadoo1402 i dont think so thats what they should do. so u are suggesting he should love gwen and put her in danger but he shouldnot recognile with mj what kind of lam reason is that its like he dont care for anyone else he love except for mj. i know it will be real fast if they recognile in sm 4 but i think by the end of next triology they will be united and starting a new life together and that mj will find the truth herself instead of peter telling her the truth. and they will introduce miles and gwen and continue their story in his triology while peter as their mentor and mj in cameos like how pepper and tony carried their relationship throughout the mcu
Dude, the acting in this scene and the way it was directed is genius. No tears, some smiles and small talk yet the viewer can’t help but to cry. Truly a brilliant shot scene.
Peters strong, i would mentally break down knowing everyone ive shared so many memories with, just forget i exist, everyone i loved and cared about, forget about me, the emptiness i would feel would be unbearable knowing if i started over shit would never be the same
"It doesn't hurt anymore" This statement is crucial for Peter because he finally feels that MJ can stay safe without knowing Peter Parker as Spider-Man. That's why he smiles at the end.
He knows their lives will be better without him in it. As devastating as it was, Peter made the right choice. Just as Tobey said, this is his gift, his curse, he’s Spider-Man.
Toby maguire's ending; he had to leave his girlfriend and his best friend died a hero but they both knew his identity Andrew's ending; his girlfriend died and so did his best friend as a villain Tom Holland's ending; both his girlfriend and his best friend who was a hero and never a villain forgot he existed
Something about the way Peter said "Thank you" @ 3:23 made him finally seem like an adult, finally a man. He said it with quiet confidence, assuredness. He walked in the coffee shop still a bit like a clumsy boy, but left a man, seeing his friends in a better place, even though he is in far lonelier one.
It's easy to make appearances. He probably still felt terrible inside that everyone forgot about him, but in the end it's better for him to show that restraint and move on slowly.
Tom Holland and Zendaya really stepped it up with their chemistry in this one, the fact that this movie had higher stakes for Peter made the stakes higher for Peter's relationship with MJ and the way Holland showed the heartbreak of her and Ned not remembering but then realising it 's for their own good, excellent scene.
Best scene in the movie. That look he gives when he makes the decision to not tell her is beautiful. Everything shown without a single word said. Incredible. Show this scene to anyone that tries claiming this movie was just empty fan service
my heart breaks into pieces just at 3:18 when he gives at her a cute but lonely smile, knowing that he lost the love of his life, its so fucking hard to process even to people watching this scene, how many times we have been in petes situation
I do believe so, yes. After all, he did the same type of sacrifice didn't he? Tony saved everyone he loved and cared about, including Peter himself, at the expense of his own wellbeing. If Tony knew what he did, I think he'd definitely be proud of him and furthermore, he'd understand his sacrifice better than most people. Dr Strange did so too at the end. I know that even he was proud of Peter as well, even if he'll never remember that he was.
Responisibilty also requires dedication. 😢 that’s peter’s “with great power comes great responsibility” is. Even sacrificng your own happiness for the sake of everyone.
this scene is really well done. director knows how to hit them spots. both tom and zendaya played brilliantly. that "doesn't really hurt anymore" was delivered perfectly.
Jon Watts started making films with short teenage romances. I think it's awesome this scene was so good because it shows where he came from and how good at it he is. I'm sure he really enjoyed making this scene.
Its pretty impressive how they basically fixed almost everything that was wrong with the MCU spider-man in this movie to make him closer to the comic book original
@@bababouillee3632 in the way that they’ve picked up on the idea of the curse of Spider-Man, yes they hinted at it at times like in homecoming when he left the dance with Liz, but for the most part Peter was left unfazed, and in a more positive place, Tony’s death wasn’t his fault, in FFH, he just wanted to be normal and have both lives Peter and Spider-Man and to flourish with both but he can’t, Spider-Man does not allow him to, as Norman said “you’re struggling to have everyone you want while the world tries to make you choose”, the end of the film makes him choose, he has nothing because of Spider-Man, May is dead, he has no more friends because he wants to protect them, he has no fancy tech from other people, he has to provide for himself, he can be beaten down, destroyed, but he will continue to put the mask on and continue fighting, even if Peter Parker suffers for it, because it’s his responsibility
Gah the acting here by Tom is unreal. The way he can convey his concern for MJ when he sees the Bandage and the looks he gives accepting his decision that it’s for the best is so damn heartbreaking
It's almost going to be one year of this movie, but still I can't believe that I witnessed all three of them in one frame and PETER PARKER seems like, he directly came from comic book to real version. Truly loved this movie ❣️. Hope to see Tom Holland once again as SPIDER-MAN.
“Only a coward hides his true intentions” and then we see Peter walking rehearsing his intro before he walks into the cafe. Literally him revealing his true intentions. What a brilliant juxtaposition of what he is not right next to what he is ❤
I love that we also see that him not revealing himself is not at all due to cowardice, but his understanding that the two people he cares about the most are simply safer if they don't know he exists. THOSE are his true intentions, and the reason why he hides behind the mask, that Jameson will never understand.
The best part is he legitimately behaves like a kid. So nervous to walk up to his gf. Completely humble about saving the world and having the ability to stop busses.
When you've been through the situation of giving someone up you care about for their best interests and for others around you instead of being selfish....this hits deep
@@dutch7207 ok literally it’s not love in my opinion, it’s being possessive, it would be different if they didn’t tell him to come back and get them after it’s all over and he promised he would He went against their wishes for his own personal possessive idea of trying to keep them safe even though they already live on an earth threatened by world domination or destruction on the regular anyways so if it’s a world like that you don’t give the people that care about you the same treatment as a dad leaving for milk the last time aka just abandoning when they just wanted you to be there at all which isn’t love, personally would be beyond furious at Peter if he told me he would come back for me right away and didn’t If I was either of them I’d be livid if I had ever found out, and without that friendship background I’d personally feel vindictive aka best friend of Spider-Man feeling vindictive after Peter makes a choice “for their safety” essentially dooming or abandoning them, I wonder where else that has happened? Maybe both other Spider-Man series? They even joke about it in the movie and honestly would love to see villain Ned now, he’d be fully justified imo
@@dylanmiller6335 a form of love can be possessive. I complete get his thought proces his aunt just died and mj nearly died, he knows being spiderman will always bring them danger and will ruin their future
One thing I like about this ending is that it shows that MJ's love for Peter was always genuine. Even here, when she doesn't know him at all, we can see that she was starting to like him. Which means he probably could have gotten her back if he continued the conversation. But after seeing just how much safer she was without him, he let her go, like a true hero would.
It’s been seven years since Homecoming. And yet I’ve grown accustomed to seeing Zendaya playing in onscreen romantic relationships that were never roads to begin with.
@@OzzyOscy May I recommend some of her movies? How about The Greatest Showman where she plays Anne to Zac Efron’s Phillip and Smallfoot where she voices Meecchee to Channing Tatum’s Migo
This is emotional scene just look at Peters face. It gets to the second level when you really had to forgot someone just for their own good. It takes a real hero!
Give it a couple more standalone Spider-man movies where Peter Parker continues to suffer and grow from his responsibilities as Spider-man alone. Then start building Peter's redemption arc to reuniting with MJ and Ned, especially if the Venom symbiote can be involved in almost destroying Peter. The best moments to have are the ones we have to wait for after a great buildup. Let's not forget that we felt so sad that Steve Rogers was frozen in a block of ice that prevented him from living a long life with Peggy Carter. What we did not realize was the MCU (maybe not initially planned) was building up for the Quantum Realm that the Avengers would use for a time heist, and which Steve Rogers would use to finally have his dance with Peggy Carter.
My guess is that Ned will figure it out on his own (he can do magic now after all) and he'll be upset that Peter didn't tell him and that will set him up to become the Hobgoblin. I know that Ned as he's been for the past few movies could never be evil, but that was when he had Peter as one of his only friends, and now he hasn't had that, so we don't know what kind of person Ned became post-spell. After Norman, it'd be hard for Spider-Man's next enemy to take more from Peter than he's already lost (Uncle Ben, Tony, Aunt May), but if Ned goes down this path, that's one best friend that Peter will lose because he was Spider-Man, and that's if he doesn't just kill MJ, too. Plus it would make Ned's line to Peter after learning about Harry Osborn all the more heartbreaking.
As soon as he sees MJ with another guy, especially if he's abusive, he'll try to get her back. He's not just staying away from MJ, but all civilians. But he can't stay alone forever.
In the cinema, it hit me a lot: when MJ waves but actually to Ned and how after she kindly attends to Peter afterwards, 3:38 but at this second it seems like MJ seems like feel to remember him.. I am moved that she still has the black dahlia necklace that Peter gave her and also how Peter says that phrase from MJ about "if you expect to be disappointed, you will not be disappointed" and how he later says that "it is no longer offered to him: NOTHING MORE" while he seems to hold back tears.. It is an uncontrollable pain in my heart, to see his girlfriend and his best friend in the distance. It would be a true gesture of love that Peter still frequenting that cafe to see Mj and Ned even if they don't remember it
@@thomassantino392 exploding in the context in which I put it does not mean exploding like a bomb in a quick and sudden combustion and all that that entails, but a quick and sudden expression of immense pride in Peters maturity and growth as a person and hero. I use literally because he will actually show his pride in Peter, fully and openly. This opposed to saying he is figuratively exploding with pride or better yet not defining exactly how much pride he is showing. This could just mean he internally feels it and in his usual Tony Stark way in that, he keeps it in and just makes a snide remark with a smile and wink, or doesn’t say anything at all. On the other hand I could have said literally because it is the vernacular of the day to say literally as a partial filler and partial accentuation to something. Ironically this is the case even if it is not the literal meaning of the word “literally”, which is an oxymoron. Ultimately though I think this is all a waste of time, like your original comment.
The fact that he finished her sentence, Peter had a paper with what he wanted to tell MJ, and his concern over her injury must have clicked in her mind that he knows her. MJ still wears the charm, so where did she get it?
@@BuddyNovinski The charm was the Black Dahlia necklace Peter gave MJ toward the end of Spider-man: Far From Home, which was broken during the final fight with Mysterio and the drones.
@@Pwilliams4000 I disagree. IMHO, MJ is probably wondering why he looks so familiar to her, yet she doesn't recall having met him at all. Her body language told me exactly that.
I have looked at her everyday from a far. Decades after my first words to her. I love you. Decades after I rejected her. Knowing she could do better. Seeing her alone, a single mom, a breast cancer survivor, I dream I could make her life better by being in it. But who am I? Just a broken love sick fool.
@@heatherperleberg7816 It was kinda funny because it was one of the only times actual physics played a part in a super hero movie. It's also doubly funny because Peter is supposed to be a brilliant physics-oriented science student
You see when Peter was about to pay for the coffee he was also going to tell MJ who he really was and how he knew her but he didn't just because he saw the bandage on her head and how she was hurt. So, he decided not to tell her because of that since whenever Peter fought, his friends were also hurt with him so he thought she might be safer if she never actually remembered him in the first place. That right there is what a true friend would do I love it.
1:57 that moment with having a conversation with MJ made her wonder. Or maybe Dr. Strange secretly left a small opening for Peter to choose if he still wants to love her or find someone new.
He wanted the best of two worlds. Being a great superhero, and having a wonderful civilian life. Here he realizes he needs to choose one, and sacrifice the other.
I'm about 90% sure MJ "knows" Peter still. Not in a direct sense but just in a gut feeling type of scenario. Regardless it'll be very interesting to see where Peters journey goes after this.
I like to think that while the brain easily forgets things, the heart has a harder time forgetting, even with reality-altering magic spells. The two of them loved each other deeply, and I think that left a mark in her heart; that's why we can see that even when she doesn't know him at all, she certainly felt... something. I think she definitely felt like she should have known him but couldn't place him after he left, probably spending a few minutes pondering that before getting distracted by her work duties and ultimately putting it out of her mind. For now anyway.
This is where you can see Spiderman being Spiderman. Sacrificing his own happiness for his loved ones. Can't love spiderman more man. He is an inspiration for me. Thank you stan lee❤
This scene was so sad to me when I first saw it. It gives you hopeful vibes but in the end its just acceptance. It's really outstanding with the unfortunate direction it went, but its obviously done for a reason for the future of the MCU and Spider Man's character.
This is the most Peter Parker thing he could do and is exactly why he's the best superhero ever created. Bro literally sacrifies his own happiness and sanity to keep his loved ones safe.
The monologue by JJJ after May's death got to him and you could see him believe that whatever he touches gets destroyed. And all of that culminates here. This is such a great origin story. Thats the thing that made me fall in love with Spidey. In the end he somehow believes that wherever he goes chaos will follow so he isolates himself and yet he doesn't turn into a broody cruel vigilante. The friendly neighbourhood spider man.
This scene is also such a beautiful small love letter to New York. This is very clearly a nod to a small donut shop called Peter Pan in Greenpoint, with Zendaya wearing the actual uniform that their employees still wear, and the layout of the set matches the odd layout of the shop (though they've made it look more modern and slightly less diner-y). Peter is shown to live somewhere around Long Island City or Sunnyside in this movie, and that area is really strongly culturally linked to Greenpoint in Brooklyn since Greenpoint is the northern tip of BK, and Greenpoint, being dependent on the G train, which is the only line that serves the area, has much easier access to Long Island City in Queens than much of the rest of Brooklyn, and likewise, it's the neighborhood in Brooklyn that is easiest for Long Island City/Sunnyside residents to access. Peter Pan is an icon in basically these two neighborhoods, and these two neighborhoods alone. Its not an icon, it's not really known much outside of its neighborhood, and it's a pain to get to if you don't live along the G train, and yet at a moment when they could have literally had MJ doing anything, they went to painstaking detail to honor a beloved neighborhood institution, even though 95% of the audience won't understand it. Peter being from Queens almost always feels like lip service when 90% of the scenes are filmed in Manhattan, but this right here shows an incredible level of understanding and love for these neighborhoods.
Its a powerful scene. Peter fully accepted the cost of his mistakes of trying to balance 2 different lives and take advantage of it. Tobey's and Andrew's Spiderman lost their loved ones, as it also the one who made them realizes that actions have consequences and great powers comes with great responsibility. Tom's Spiderman reflects on the Spiderman we knew in the comics and other series.
0:12 There's a reason that he hides himself, because he doesn't want anyone to get involve with his way. He's person like you Jameson, He had a life and he's going to live it.
A big message in one whole movie: sometimes we have to make sacrifices in order to do what's right. Although pretty much the majority of this film was really a love letter to the fans.
Spider-Man being my favorite character this just hits different. The man who is destined to lose everything for the sacrifice for others is just difficult to watch. This scene brings me to tears every time because he’s sacrificing his happiness for others around him.
That scene fricking killed me!!! With everything Peter's been through, to not have your 2 strongest confidantes to lean on, it's like a piece of you is forever gone.
I was a little scared there at first, that they were gonna make Ned and MJ a thing there. I was glad that they didn't and instead went the way they did.
Man this scene broke me in half. Fuck. One of those endings you wish wouldn’t happen, but had to happen. And I love it for that exact reason. But yeah, it broke me in half
I’m gonna be honest. I wasn’t a fan of Holland Spider-Man but after this movie and what he has been through, and the ending, it sold me. Can’t wait to see what’s in store for him.
That's what's so brilliant about MCU Spider-Man for six movies we've been experiencing his origin watching him grow and this Movie really brought him to the peek.
My God I just realized something super heart breaking MJ is wearing the broken black dahlia necklace she doesn't know how she got but subconsciously she knows that it's important to her however all Peter can focus on is the band aid on her head which leads him into thinking that him not being in their lives would be the better choice.
@ what do you mean? It’s over. He lost everyone he cares about. Even though Doctor strange almost remembered Spider-Man at Doctor Strange : in the Multiverse of Madness, but Still. Spider-Man Lost Everyone just himself.
honestly the best scene in the movie. the only one that didnt revolve around memberberries and actually tried something. but now it fully depends on whether the 2 will come back on sequel and figure out his identity again or if the movie has balls to just drop the 2 and push for independent spidey
doesent matter if they figure out his identity as hes just a random guy. would be like you figuring out darren from ohio who works in construction is actuallyspiderman. you no longer know darren.
"Doesn't really hurt anymore" such powerful words that made peter realize he shouldn't bother anymore. He just wants everyone to feel safe and not let anything happen to them because of him.
I disagree. He promised he would tell them. She’s still wearing the necklace he got her.
@@aro327 sometimes the best thing a hero can do for someone they love is to let them go.
@@aro327 imo your point doesn't disprove that Peter is trying to care for MJ but its part of why its so bittersweet that he's making this decision.
May is dead because she was involved in his super-heroics. When Peter sees the bandaid on MJ's forehead, he must have been reminded of May, and he realizes that he can protect MJ and Ned by breaking his promise, and the only one who has to hurt is him. Ned and MJ can't be hurt by a broken promise they can't remember.
if it were me i would want him to tell me because it is my choice to make if that is the life i would want
@@jessicavelasquez7035 if you die, it's not you who has to live with that. Its ultimately Peter's choice in who he wants to put in danger and he decided he wanted to put their safety above his own selfish desires.
This was the Peter Parker I grew up with.
The one who sacrifices his happiness for the safety and well-being of others.
This brought me back to the Tobey days
You’re high 😂
I agree, Tom's peter is finally understanding how to be spiderman
@@TaTa-rq6dl I'm* what a weird comment
@@mattcubed9658 ?
@@mattcubed9658 go troll a job application
Good acting, you can really see Peter's own growth and selflessness in this scene as he comes to accept the consequences of his actions.
Added to how he proved it to Strange by allowing him to make everyone forget him entirely, for the sake of reality
Similar to how he proved it to Tony by turning down the offer to join the Avengers
Just like Tom said Peter Parker is no more welcome Spider man
It was a telling scene that Peter became willing to let go of his friends so that they could have the life they longed for, knowing that being associated with him deprived them of it. Even though Peter knew if given the choice they would align with him even if it meant missing out on their dreams, he wouldn't dare take that away from them. Losing May showed Peter that he could and should bear the responsibility and requisite sacrifices...alone!
These two kids are really good actors. This is next level acting. The whole scene was done purely with facial expressions and they nailed it. Really well done!
I've had a relationship where I had to do the same... sometimes you do more damage by trying to be selfish and keep people in your lives, then just letting them go. If they were meant to be there and stay, they will be. And if not, well... not every story has a happy ending.
His smile says "Thanks for the coffee"
His eyes tell "I love you. I'm sorry. I'll miss you."
He didn't mean to get the coffee, he wanted to make MJ remember him
@@abdulhadi7211 thats why the comment said: “i’ll miss you”
Because Peter decided in the end it would be better for them to not know who he was
@@faanc6770 please no argument with me
@@abdulhadi7211 you like p p
Kinda Sad I Really Didn’t Like This I wanted Her 2 Remember And His Best Friend 2 Remember
The way they ended this movie is absolutely phenomenal and it sets up the next movie really well.
Too bad Sony is likely to horribly screw it up. Only chance the next movie will be any good is if Disney does it.
@@limemobber No Way Home is a Sony movie. Disney deserves no credit.
Leaving my comment here to check later
@@limemobber no Disney apologist, Sony had major creative control on all things Spiderman.
@@limemobber Co-Produced with Columbia Pictures, which is owned by Sony. If Disney has full control, it would be full of woke BS.
Pete's smile at 3:09 damn hits hard
so bittersweet, he smiled knowing that she's gonna be ok and knowing that they'll be safe and happy even without him.
I hope they stick to the consequences of this ending and they allow Tom Holland's Peter to meet new friends and find a new true love.
This ending was perfect in that it allowed him as well to move on and to make a sacrifice that means something
@@2Good2BeTrue45 I thought this was the last of Tom Holland as Spiderman. If not, would be nice for them to flip it and introduce Gwen after MJ.
@@blueskadoo1402 one of the heads of Sony or whatever just said its absolutely still happening so...that's probably where they're gonna go
@@2Good2BeTrue45 i dont think so thats what they should do. so u are suggesting he should love gwen and put her in danger but he shouldnot recognile with mj what kind of lam reason is that its like he dont care for anyone else he love except for mj. i know it will be real fast if they recognile in sm 4 but i think by the end of next triology they will be united and starting a new life together and that mj will find the truth herself instead of peter telling her the truth. and they will introduce miles and gwen and continue their story in his triology while peter as their mentor and mj in cameos like how pepper and tony carried their relationship throughout the mcu
@@blueskadoo1402 i dont think so thats what they should do. so u are suggesting he should love gwen and put her in danger but he shouldnot recognile with mj what kind of lam reason is that its like he dont care for anyone else he love except for mj. i know it will be real fast if they recognile in sm 4 but i think by the end of next triology they will be united and starting a new life together and that mj will find the truth herself instead of peter telling her the truth. and they will introduce miles and gwen and continue their story in his triology while peter as their mentor and mj in cameos like how pepper and tony carried their relationship throughout the mcu
Dude, the acting in this scene and the way it was directed is genius. No tears, some smiles and small talk yet the viewer can’t help but to cry. Truly a brilliant shot scene.
bro i cried tf out of me 🥺😭
Everything is said with their faces. MJ is immediately attracted to him and hoping he asks her number, and Peter knows.
This is a stunningly emotional scene. Incredible acting. The little things make it amazing.
You can literally see the sadness on peter's face, despite it being so subtle. Tom Holland did a fantastic job with this.
And they didn't need an overly dramatic scene with lots of crying to get it, it's amazing
Peters strong, i would mentally break down knowing everyone ive shared so many memories with, just forget i exist, everyone i loved and cared about, forget about me, the emptiness i would feel would be unbearable knowing if i started over shit would never be the same
not to be morbid, but thats what death will be like, so, yknow wrestle around with that, itll be fine
@@johnhadley3348 Not entirely true. I still have plenty of happy memories with my great grandmother who’s been gone for about 8 years now🤷♂️
You can get sort of get half way there by moving to a place where you don't know anyone.
@@dantejordan4847 well yeah, but then you die eventually, and then your great grandkids etc etc
Indomitable will is listed as one of his powers
The world may be forgot about Peter's identity, but cameraman always remember and follow him everywhere he goes
The cameraman is a real one. How loyal!
He even swings along with Spiderman.
Lol😂
The camera man is a loyal G
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Honestly this scene is both heartfelt and a little sad at the same time but I love it!
yep...
painful. yet with hope.
@@jobob47 true!
It’s painful to watch, tho imo marvel made a huge mistake by making strange do a spell which made everyone forget who Peter was instead of Spider-Man
@@ayaannazir7308 that wouldn't make any sense my man
A little?
Literally got tears seeing your best friends talk to you like strangers🥺
He must start all over again to get to know them
But hey, at least Peter can rizz his girl like the 1st time again 😂.
@@vermilion6667 Yeah, until someone gets the first move while he's putting on the mask.
It'll be different when she sees him with other guys, especially if it's an abusive bf.
"It doesn't hurt anymore"
This statement is crucial for Peter because he finally feels that MJ can stay safe without knowing Peter Parker as Spider-Man. That's why he smiles at the end.
He knows their lives will be better without him in it. As devastating as it was, Peter made the right choice. Just as Tobey said, this is his gift, his curse, he’s Spider-Man.
Toby maguire's ending; he had to leave his girlfriend and his best friend died a hero but they both knew his identity
Andrew's ending; his girlfriend died and so did his best friend as a villain
Tom Holland's ending; both his girlfriend and his best friend who was a hero and never a villain forgot he existed
@@cooper3814 its the curse of a great power. Stan Lee's depiction of a broken hero is truly amazing
Well, Ned is magic. We'll definitely be seeing him again
Just like what they said in Spiderman Across the Spiderverse, bad things will happen to anyone close to spider-people, it's meant to be
@@icedmocha4532Gigachad Miles: Nah imma do my own thing
This is the most powerful and important part of the movie. Gets me every time. There's a spiderman and spiderwoman in all of us.
I would like to be in spiderwoman. if you know what i mean ;)
@@AF-ge7es tf
"that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble."
And maybe just maybe a spider nigga in us too
We do ingest plenty of spiders in our lifetime so I guess you are right.
Something about the way Peter said "Thank you" @ 3:23 made him finally seem like an adult, finally a man. He said it with quiet confidence, assuredness. He walked in the coffee shop still a bit like a clumsy boy, but left a man, seeing his friends in a better place, even though he is in far lonelier one.
It's easy to make appearances. He probably still felt terrible inside that everyone forgot about him, but in the end it's better for him to show that restraint and move on slowly.
This is the Spider-Man we know and love
No Avengers, no high-tech suit
Before he was iron boy junior
@@crashpal shhh
Stop calling him Iron Man Jr.
@@andrewilliams4030 Otherwise they'd be siding with the daily bugle
@@crashpal he never was
Tom Holland and Zendaya really stepped it up with their chemistry in this one, the fact that this movie had higher stakes for Peter made the stakes higher for Peter's relationship with MJ and the way Holland showed the heartbreak of her and Ned not remembering but then realising it 's for their own good, excellent scene.
Might be easier since they were dating IRL during this one.
@@NapazTrix Yeah.
@@NapazTrix were they not dating during the filming of FFH as well? I'm not sure when they actually started dating.
Best scene in the movie. That look he gives when he makes the decision to not tell her is beautiful. Everything shown without a single word said. Incredible. Show this scene to anyone that tries claiming this movie was just empty fan service
This whole movie was good
And the looks she gives - she's waiting for him to ask her number and, worse, Peter knows.
The way he realizes that they're living a normal life now and how he accepts everything. It's really great Spiderman pain.
my heart breaks into pieces just at 3:18 when he gives at her a cute but lonely smile, knowing that he lost the love of his life, its so fucking hard to process even to people watching this scene, how many times we have been in petes situation
Only once😢
None, they always rejected me or strung me along 😔
Tony would be so proud of peter. Putting the world and the people he loves before himself
I do believe so, yes. After all, he did the same type of sacrifice didn't he? Tony saved everyone he loved and cared about, including Peter himself, at the expense of his own wellbeing. If Tony knew what he did, I think he'd definitely be proud of him and furthermore, he'd understand his sacrifice better than most people.
Dr Strange did so too at the end. I know that even he was proud of Peter as well, even if he'll never remember that he was.
If only I knew I was in for at age 23. I’m 31 now and things just haven’t been the same since before 2019.
"Sometimes... to do what's right... we must be steady... and give up the things we desire the most... even our dreams."
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
@DisneyPixarMarvel&DreamworksJoJoFickQuillesFan2003 "No, quitting is for rookies!"
This is perfect
Screw that, it's MJ and she's hot. I'd still go after her knowing she was my girlfriend.
Uncle Ben
The other Peters never found out what he did at the end did they?
They would've been so proud of their brother.
“With great power comes great responsibility.”
One of the best lines and I have never forgotten about it.
Seeing this happen and seeing Peter grounded with nothing/no one made it feel like he is finally experiencing what it means to be Spider-Man
Being spider man and actually adhering to these responsibilities would suck, ngl
@@bullymaguire8292but shooting the webs and flying across town😫
Responisibilty also requires dedication. 😢 that’s peter’s “with great power comes great responsibility” is. Even sacrificng your own happiness for the sake of everyone.
He listened to Aunt May...
this scene is really well done. director knows how to hit them spots. both tom and zendaya played brilliantly. that "doesn't really hurt anymore" was delivered perfectly.
what "letting it go" feels like
It definitely hurts, but at the same time, liberating, making rooms for you to grow.
this literally could be a standalone short film it’s so good
True true
Jon Watts started making films with short teenage romances. I think it's awesome this scene was so good because it shows where he came from and how good at it he is. I'm sure he really enjoyed making this scene.
@@CraftyCarrot Very interesting.
Its pretty impressive how they basically fixed almost everything that was wrong with the MCU spider-man in this movie to make him closer to the comic book original
In what way is he closer to the comic books?
@@bababouillee3632 - if you didnt see it, I cannot help you
@@bababouillee3632 in the way that they’ve picked up on the idea of the curse of Spider-Man, yes they hinted at it at times like in homecoming when he left the dance with Liz, but for the most part Peter was left unfazed, and in a more positive place, Tony’s death wasn’t his fault, in FFH, he just wanted to be normal and have both lives Peter and Spider-Man and to flourish with both but he can’t, Spider-Man does not allow him to, as Norman said “you’re struggling to have everyone you want while the world tries to make you choose”, the end of the film makes him choose, he has nothing because of Spider-Man, May is dead, he has no more friends because he wants to protect them, he has no fancy tech from other people, he has to provide for himself, he can be beaten down, destroyed, but he will continue to put the mask on and continue fighting, even if Peter Parker suffers for it, because it’s his responsibility
@@russ7009 - okay
Tobey himself was not comic accurate...
Makes me cry. That’s love. Love that’s completely free of ego. Just pure love for another.
You said everything
Gah the acting here by Tom is unreal. The way he can convey his concern for MJ when he sees the Bandage and the looks he gives accepting his decision that it’s for the best is so damn heartbreaking
‘Sometimes, to do what's right, we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most.’
Where does he say it? 😭
"Even our dreams" - Aunt May, 2004
@@syndren4377 thankss
With great power comes great responsibility.
Best line ever.
His expressions from 3:10 to 3:21 did hit hard. This movie had the greatest live action Spider-Man movie ending ever!
It's almost going to be one year of this movie, but still I can't believe that I witnessed all three of them in one frame and PETER PARKER seems like, he directly came from comic book to real version. Truly loved this movie ❣️. Hope to see Tom Holland once again as SPIDER-MAN.
“Only a coward hides his true intentions” and then we see Peter walking rehearsing his intro before he walks into the cafe. Literally him revealing his true intentions.
What a brilliant juxtaposition of what he is not right next to what he is ❤
I love that we also see that him not revealing himself is not at all due to cowardice, but his understanding that the two people he cares about the most are simply safer if they don't know he exists. THOSE are his true intentions, and the reason why he hides behind the mask, that Jameson will never understand.
@@santosic Thank you!
The best part is he legitimately behaves like a kid. So nervous to walk up to his gf. Completely humble about saving the world and having the ability to stop busses.
When you've been through the situation of giving someone up you care about for their best interests and for others around you instead of being selfish....this hits deep
This is the first scene I refer to when I’m told I only love this movie bc of nostalgia. One of the best CBM endings ever.
I agree every time someone says it i always point to this scène it is the best character scène in phase 4 fight me
Definitely not the nostalgia. It's the best spiderman we got. Beats the last two movies easily.
@@dutch7207 ok literally it’s not love in my opinion, it’s being possessive, it would be different if they didn’t tell him to come back and get them after it’s all over and he promised he would
He went against their wishes for his own personal possessive idea of trying to keep them safe even though they already live on an earth threatened by world domination or destruction on the regular anyways so if it’s a world like that you don’t give the people that care about you the same treatment as a dad leaving for milk the last time aka just abandoning when they just wanted you to be there at all which isn’t love, personally would be beyond furious at Peter if he told me he would come back for me right away and didn’t
If I was either of them I’d be livid if I had ever found out, and without that friendship background I’d personally feel vindictive aka best friend of Spider-Man feeling vindictive after Peter makes a choice “for their safety” essentially dooming or abandoning them, I wonder where else that has happened? Maybe both other Spider-Man series? They even joke about it in the movie and honestly would love to see villain Ned now, he’d be fully justified imo
@@dylanmiller6335 a form of love can be possessive. I complete get his thought proces his aunt just died and mj nearly died, he knows being spiderman will always bring them danger and will ruin their future
Nostalgia?
Dude the film is barely 1 years old.
Just goes to show how lonely a true hero's life can be in order to save everyone.
this is the most saddest end ever ive watched,he just stayed to be lonely and sad to save others😢❤️
just like spiderman in the comics. Sacrificing oneself to save others
Pure, just pure. His eyes were screaming when he looks at her
One thing I like about this ending is that it shows that MJ's love for Peter was always genuine. Even here, when she doesn't know him at all, we can see that she was starting to like him. Which means he probably could have gotten her back if he continued the conversation. But after seeing just how much safer she was without him, he let her go, like a true hero would.
It’s been seven years since Homecoming. And yet I’ve grown accustomed to seeing Zendaya playing in onscreen romantic relationships that were never roads to begin with.
This was my first Holland Spider-man movie, it made me want to see more of Zendaya being the crush, when before I didn't care.
@@OzzyOscy May I recommend some of her movies? How about The Greatest Showman where she plays Anne to Zac Efron’s Phillip and Smallfoot where she voices Meecchee to Channing Tatum’s Migo
This is emotional scene just look at Peters face. It gets to the second level when you really had to forgot someone just for their own good. It takes a real hero!
I'm still willing to bet he'll tell them someday. Perhaps after they're done with college. After all, he made a promise.
The best promises are the ones u don’t keep
According to the ending Amazing Spider-Man 1 lol
@@WhyisLorenzo Andrew's promise kept him away from someone he loved, this is the opposite
Give it a couple more standalone Spider-man movies where Peter Parker continues to suffer and grow from his responsibilities as Spider-man alone. Then start building Peter's redemption arc to reuniting with MJ and Ned, especially if the Venom symbiote can be involved in almost destroying Peter.
The best moments to have are the ones we have to wait for after a great buildup. Let's not forget that we felt so sad that Steve Rogers was frozen in a block of ice that prevented him from living a long life with Peggy Carter. What we did not realize was the MCU (maybe not initially planned) was building up for the Quantum Realm that the Avengers would use for a time heist, and which Steve Rogers would use to finally have his dance with Peggy Carter.
My guess is that Ned will figure it out on his own (he can do magic now after all) and he'll be upset that Peter didn't tell him and that will set him up to become the Hobgoblin. I know that Ned as he's been for the past few movies could never be evil, but that was when he had Peter as one of his only friends, and now he hasn't had that, so we don't know what kind of person Ned became post-spell.
After Norman, it'd be hard for Spider-Man's next enemy to take more from Peter than he's already lost (Uncle Ben, Tony, Aunt May), but if Ned goes down this path, that's one best friend that Peter will lose because he was Spider-Man, and that's if he doesn't just kill MJ, too. Plus it would make Ned's line to Peter after learning about Harry Osborn all the more heartbreaking.
As soon as he sees MJ with another guy, especially if he's abusive, he'll try to get her back.
He's not just staying away from MJ, but all civilians. But he can't stay alone forever.
In the cinema, it hit me a lot: when MJ waves but actually to Ned and how after she kindly attends to Peter afterwards, 3:38 but at this second it seems like MJ seems like feel to remember him.. I am moved that she still has the black dahlia necklace that Peter gave her and also how Peter says that phrase from MJ about "if you expect to be disappointed, you will not be disappointed" and how he later says that "it is no longer offered to him: NOTHING MORE" while he seems to hold back tears.. It is an uncontrollable pain in my heart, to see his girlfriend and his best friend in the distance. It would be a true gesture of love that Peter still frequenting that cafe to see Mj and Ned even if they don't remember it
Deja Vus
That spiderweb must be insanely strong, keeping Peter from falling apart and that
Tony would be literally exploding with pride right now...Peter did the one thing he couldn't, let go of those he loves...
How can someone literally explode with pride? Is that like spontaneous combustion or something? Would he die?
@@thomassantino392 interpret it as you will lol
@@redwolfgamevideo whaa?
@@thomassantino392 exploding in the context in which I put it does not mean exploding like a bomb in a quick and sudden combustion and all that that entails, but a quick and sudden expression of immense pride in Peters maturity and growth as a person and hero. I use literally because he will actually show his pride in Peter, fully and openly. This opposed to saying he is figuratively exploding with pride or better yet not defining exactly how much pride he is showing. This could just mean he internally feels it and in his usual Tony Stark way in that, he keeps it in and just makes a snide remark with a smile and wink, or doesn’t say anything at all.
On the other hand I could have said literally because it is the vernacular of the day to say literally as a partial filler and partial accentuation to something. Ironically this is the case even if it is not the literal meaning of the word “literally”, which is an oxymoron.
Ultimately though I think this is all a waste of time, like your original comment.
3:37 If you look at her expression, she felt like that there is something familiar about Peter and how did she know him
I mean i think also she will always find Peter attractive
@@fonzithesavage6610 That’s a good point
The fact that he finished her sentence, Peter had a paper with what he wanted to tell MJ, and his concern over her injury must have clicked in her mind that he knows her. MJ still wears the charm, so where did she get it?
@@BuddyNovinski Knowing her character she will absolutely try to figure out who this strange random person is, and eventually will
@@BuddyNovinski The charm was the Black Dahlia necklace Peter gave MJ toward the end of Spider-man: Far From Home, which was broken during the final fight with Mysterio and the drones.
Great acting from Tom. You can literally see his thought transition through his eyes.
To bad MJ looks horrified
@@Pwilliams4000 I disagree. IMHO, MJ is probably wondering why he looks so familiar to her, yet she doesn't recall having met him at all. Her body language told me exactly that.
@@WRILLI4M wouldn’t she remember him from school though? not necessarily his name but his face?
@@VintageDev499 do you remember every person you met in high school?
@@fandomking8939 have you not seen Homecoming and FFH?
This is how I feel everyday of my life. Sometimes, you just need to hide your feelings and leave people be.
I have looked at her everyday from a far. Decades after my first words to her. I love you. Decades after I rejected her. Knowing she could do better. Seeing her alone, a single mom, a breast cancer survivor, I dream I could make her life better by being in it. But who am I? Just a broken love sick fool.
3:08 The moment where Peter realises that he has to move on
So fuckin sad man
So sad I can’t imagine that happening to me I couldn’t mentally handle that someone I felt so close to I had to move on from I would be so depressed
When Peter says a simple “Thanks” at the end…. SO much involved in that word. That’s what broke the dam for me. Very understated and profound.
I always had this feeling that even though MJ forgets who Peter is, the feelings she has for him did not go away and she’s probably like ‘wtf’.
The welness of the ones you love matter the most even if it kills you inside...
This scene actually broke me like goddamn it hurts. But that's what makes it so good!
Tbh this scene is the most heartbreaking in Spider-Man movies yah obviously after Gwen's death scene
I laughed when Gwen died. Completely unearned.
@@heatherperleberg7816 It was kinda funny because it was one of the only times actual physics played a part in a super hero movie.
It's also doubly funny because Peter is supposed to be a brilliant physics-oriented science student
@@sagivalia5041 that too lol
@@sagivalia5041 you think people think rationally when your love is about to die?
@@zkatom3773 That's fair point, tho it's funny that they suddenly decided to play by the physics rule
You see when Peter was about to pay for the coffee he was also going to tell MJ who he really was and how he knew her but he didn't just because he saw the bandage on her head and how she was hurt. So, he decided not to tell her because of that since whenever Peter fought, his friends were also hurt with him so he thought she might be safer if she never actually remembered him in the first place. That right there is what a true friend would do I love it.
Perfect ending to his homecoming trilogy 👌
One of the best scenes ever. It reminds me of my favorite quote. “So close yet so far away”
1:57 that moment with having a conversation with MJ made her wonder. Or maybe Dr. Strange secretly left a small opening for Peter to choose if he still wants to love her or find someone new.
huh
I think they should go with Gwen
Time will tell but exited 😌
He wanted the best of two worlds. Being a great superhero, and having a wonderful civilian life. Here he realizes he needs to choose one, and sacrifice the other.
Just like Hannah Montana. Except not as sad
3:15 Holland nailed it! 🥺❤️
I'm about 90% sure MJ "knows" Peter still.
Not in a direct sense but just in a gut feeling type of scenario. Regardless it'll be very interesting to see where Peters journey goes after this.
I like to think that while the brain easily forgets things, the heart has a harder time forgetting, even with reality-altering magic spells. The two of them loved each other deeply, and I think that left a mark in her heart; that's why we can see that even when she doesn't know him at all, she certainly felt... something. I think she definitely felt like she should have known him but couldn't place him after he left, probably spending a few minutes pondering that before getting distracted by her work duties and ultimately putting it out of her mind.
For now anyway.
This is where you can see Spiderman being Spiderman. Sacrificing his own happiness for his loved ones. Can't love spiderman more man. He is an inspiration for me. Thank you stan lee❤
This scene was so sad to me when I first saw it. It gives you hopeful vibes but in the end its just acceptance. It's really outstanding with the unfortunate direction it went, but its obviously done for a reason for the future of the MCU and Spider Man's character.
I love how he went on this insane journey just to have it all be forgotten. He's truly become the spiderman we all know and love!
The same old life of Peter Parker, the man just constantly suffers for the good of others :’(
This is the most Peter Parker thing he could do and is exactly why he's the best superhero ever created. Bro literally sacrifies his own happiness and sanity to keep his loved ones safe.
The monologue by JJJ after May's death got to him and you could see him believe that whatever he touches gets destroyed. And all of that culminates here. This is such a great origin story. Thats the thing that made me fall in love with Spidey. In the end he somehow believes that wherever he goes chaos will follow so he isolates himself and yet he doesn't turn into a broody cruel vigilante. The friendly neighbourhood spider man.
“The hardest choices require the strongest wills”- Thanos
This scene is also such a beautiful small love letter to New York. This is very clearly a nod to a small donut shop called Peter Pan in Greenpoint, with Zendaya wearing the actual uniform that their employees still wear, and the layout of the set matches the odd layout of the shop (though they've made it look more modern and slightly less diner-y).
Peter is shown to live somewhere around Long Island City or Sunnyside in this movie, and that area is really strongly culturally linked to Greenpoint in Brooklyn since Greenpoint is the northern tip of BK, and Greenpoint, being dependent on the G train, which is the only line that serves the area, has much easier access to Long Island City in Queens than much of the rest of Brooklyn, and likewise, it's the neighborhood in Brooklyn that is easiest for Long Island City/Sunnyside residents to access. Peter Pan is an icon in basically these two neighborhoods, and these two neighborhoods alone.
Its not an icon, it's not really known much outside of its neighborhood, and it's a pain to get to if you don't live along the G train, and yet at a moment when they could have literally had MJ doing anything, they went to painstaking detail to honor a beloved neighborhood institution, even though 95% of the audience won't understand it.
Peter being from Queens almost always feels like lip service when 90% of the scenes are filmed in Manhattan, but this right here shows an incredible level of understanding and love for these neighborhoods.
Interesting info
0:41 bro why did he open the door like gta sa 😂
Underrated 😂
Its a powerful scene. Peter fully accepted the cost of his mistakes of trying to balance 2 different lives and take advantage of it.
Tobey's and Andrew's Spiderman lost their loved ones, as it also the one who made them realizes that actions have consequences and great powers comes with great responsibility.
Tom's Spiderman reflects on the Spiderman we knew in the comics and other series.
Tom Holland deserves an oscar just for this scene
0:12 There's a reason that he hides himself, because he doesn't want anyone to get involve with his way. He's person like you Jameson, He had a life and he's going to live it.
Jameson is no reporter. He's a con man!
probably the best ending to a marvel movie, loved the end more than the whole film
The feels you get when he sees his best and only friend to realize he can't even talk to him
Peter Grown Up. The Way Tony Wanted ♥️
This scene did justice to Tobey's universe so well. The imperfect Peter, good kid with power & responsibility being always selfless for his own.
I bet everyone feels for Peter in this scene excellent acting by all these three young actors
I just realized MJ waving to Ned and peter thinking it was for him is exactly like what happens in the og spiderman movie with Tobey lol
This scene is everything that makes the MCU amazing.
Yup. It’s what has been missing from most Disney Plus shows and (unpopular opinion) Deadpool & Wolverine
Peter Parker is the only character who scarifice his happiness for others. Painful very painful
Those long pause, terrific acting man.
A big message in one whole movie: sometimes we have to make sacrifices in order to do what's right.
Although pretty much the majority of this film was really a love letter to the fans.
This was the most soul-crushing ending to an MCU movie since Infinity War.
Spider-Man being my favorite character this just hits different. The man who is destined to lose everything for the sacrifice for others is just difficult to watch. This scene brings me to tears every time because he’s sacrificing his happiness for others around him.
The world may forget Peter Parker, but there will always be Spider-Man.
This movie is the best of all MCU movies/series. Change my mind.
That scene fricking killed me!!!
With everything Peter's been through, to not have your 2 strongest confidantes to lean on, it's like a piece of you is forever gone.
I was a little scared there at first, that they were gonna make Ned and MJ a thing there. I was glad that they didn't and instead went the way they did.
Man this scene broke me in half. Fuck. One of those endings you wish wouldn’t happen, but had to happen. And I love it for that exact reason. But yeah, it broke me in half
1:31 this shot is so powerful
frfr
This is for you Stan Lee. I hope we meet spider-man again.
I’m gonna be honest. I wasn’t a fan of Holland Spider-Man but after this movie and what he has been through, and the ending, it sold me. Can’t wait to see what’s in store for him.
@GamesTricker No Sam Raimi didn't direct this Jon Watts did like the other 2.
That's what's so brilliant about MCU Spider-Man for six movies we've been experiencing his origin watching him grow and this Movie really brought him to the peek.
@@gamestricker6555purposely lying lmao
@@gamestricker6555 Me when I spread misinformation on the internet
I saw potential in Holland from the moment Civil War happened. And it clinched the deal for me
“Sometimes to do what’s right we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams…”
My God I just realized something super heart breaking MJ is wearing the broken black dahlia necklace she doesn't know how she got but subconsciously she knows that it's important to her however all Peter can focus on is the band aid on her head which leads him into thinking that him not being in their lives would be the better choice.
Poor Peter Parker, All alone.
No Father Figure, No Aunt, No Best Friend, No Girlfriend and no Friends.
All Alone Forever
I don’t believe it’ll be forever. Just temporarily
@ what do you mean?
It’s over. He lost everyone he cares about.
Even though Doctor strange almost remembered Spider-Man at Doctor Strange : in the Multiverse of Madness, but Still.
Spider-Man Lost Everyone just himself.
@@Depre666 You never know
honestly the best scene in the movie. the only one that didnt revolve around memberberries and actually tried something. but now it fully depends on whether the 2 will come back on sequel and figure out his identity again or if the movie has balls to just drop the 2 and push for independent spidey
They’re definitely gonna make him independent and give him new characters. Like black cat, Gwen Stacy and Harry
doesent matter if they figure out his identity as hes just a random guy. would be like you figuring out darren from ohio who works in construction is actuallyspiderman. you no longer know darren.