That wasn't nearly as offensive as I thought it might be. Slicing and dicing on live critters bothers me in my old age far more than it ever used to for some reason. You do good work Doc. Cheers brother. 👍👍
Really interesting video. Am I on the right track to think that the walls of the rectum were baggy and loose, to the point that you could locate and handle such small organs with such dexterity?
So by cutting off both ovaries, obviously, they wouldn't require any sort of hysterectomy. Does this also stop heat? I have a few cows on my property inherited from my father. (He was an equine veterinarian). He apparently performed this operation on the cows. He might have faulty performed in his old age. But my cows still acted up as if they were in heat. But dont interest in my bull. (My local vet said not to worry). Any thoughts? They are older cows and probably wouldn't be able to carry a calf anyway. It just tends to spook my mares who also heat at that time of year.
@@EnochtheCowVetthis doesn't surprise me, and is a very good reason to spay. Thank you for making the beef industry more humane. Much love from Canada!
Yes, different technique but similar. The ovarian pedicle is crushed with ecrasures from memory. I’ve never performed this procedure on a mare. Cheers!
@@EnochtheCowVetGood mor ing my name is Sergio, I am a Veterinarian from Uruguay. First of all, your videos are ver y interesting. In Uruguay are ovariectomy cows using the Dutto method, but this is not useful for ver y Young heifers. I would like to know how to acquire or buy the Willis method instruments? Thank you
Um what.... The overies get reabsorbed? I thought things that lose blood supply end up dying and decaying inside the body, like when kidneys shut down and now you have a rotting organ inside you?
When they are not pregnant blood supply is quite small and the procedure is safe. If they are pregnant a different procedure can be employed called “webbing”. Cheers!
Yes, they are less likely to have pain with this procedure, but who can really tell? I had a colposcopy (not a Colpotomy) and LEEP procedure. I was numbed, and still hurt really bad. Most of the heifers and cows who receive this procedure are going to be fattened up for slaughter. That’s life, but being informed is always a good thing. 🐮😊
All of the spayed animals are destined for the abattoir, that is why the procedure is done, to allow them to gain weight without trying to continually rear a calf. This allows the producer to improve the traits within his or her herd ensuring the calves are born from their better cows. In a normal beef or dairy operation they are prevented from meeting bulls instead. Bull control is impossible in pastoral settings. (Hundreds of thousands to millions of acres). Cheers!
I had been avoiding watching this video as I was so sure it was going to be really sad and cruel to watch but damned if that cow didn’t even seem to notice the procedure! Didn’t realise it was such a common thing to be done over here either
@@EnochtheCowVet my comment probably didn’t come across great 😂 I worked on horse studs and know my way vaguely around a cow as well, wasn’t saying I was expecting you to be cruel I just really thought it would be so much more painful for the cow. I understand the reasons why these things are done the way they are and not under anaesthetic and I mostly agree but I don’t like seeing it coz I’ve gone soft from being away from the land for so long 😂
@@Becky-dw8lw just because they are the same organs doesn’t mean they have a the same nerve endings. If that cow had felt pain she would have been fighting for her life to escape instead of fidgeting and worrying about his hand up her bum
When it's a large ungulate like a cow, an elephant, a giraffe, a horse, there is a calculation that must be made about general anasthesia. Since the risk of death is higher to use general anaesthesia out in the field, and it's impractical to bring them into a surgical center, they have to balance out the pros and the cons for each procedure. Sounds like research was done to determine the pain receptors in this region. We don't have pain receptors everywhere in our bodies, and the same is true of cows. So if an area of the body doesn't have pain receptors, then the animal won't feel any pain when you do a surgical procedure. So then, if you know that the animal has minimal discomfort and no pain, there is zero benefit to doing general anaesthsia out in the field, so to speak. The idea with any livestock, who can't be informed about what is happening, is to cause them the least distress possible. And for animals, that means time. You want to be able to mess with them the least possible. Because the longer you've got them in a headlock, the more stressed they get. Often it's a balancing act. I've seen an expert dehorner in action. He uses heat to burn the horn buds. He acts fast, so that from the time he touches the calf to the time they calf is no longer being handled is about 90 seconds. Yes, there is pain involved. But the choice would be to capture the calf, give it multiple local anasthetic injections all around each horn, wait for it to set in (all the while the animal is stressed and feeling many many painful injections) and then after half an hour the dehorning takes place and they don't feel it. Do you give them 90 seconds of stress and two pain points, or 30 minutes of stress and six to twelve painful pin pricks to the face? It's always a balancing act.... is the benefit of the anasthesia real or imagined. And it does make sense that there are parts of the birth canal that aren't loaded with pain receptors.... why put pain receptors in a place that generally only deals with birth?
Yes, I agree with everyone else. It was interesting, but it also made me feel kind of sick and that’s something I would pay to see.Enoch, your job ain’t pretty. 😂
Forgive me, but what is the point of a cow that can't breed? How do the economics work out that your rates are cheap enough and beef on the hoof expensive enough to make the weight she'll gain worth the money? They're not pets, after all.
Station cattle are mustered once or twice a year. Mickey (unwanted rogue bulls) keep undesirable cows pregnant and too skinny too sell. Undesirable cows are spayed so they can avoid falling pregnant and can be sold. Better type cows continue to raise calves.
@@EnochtheCowVet So it works out because there's so little investment in feeding them and the labor-cost of handling them is low? Where in a more intensive environment they'd be sold as-is for dog food?
Stations are at the whim of Mother Nature. On a traditional beef enterprise the keeper heifers are selected and the rest (the cull heifers) are isolated from bulls. Impossible on stations (million acre properties). So cull heifers are spayed so they can maintain body condition and the keepers keep producing calves. Make sense now?
Your video's are so interesting and educational but I have a hard time hearing the audio with all the wind noises. It would be great if you had a wind sock for your mike or edit the wind noises out during editing.
Honestly i dont understand wanting to breed an animals way of defense out of them. Sure it would be safer for the handler but at the same time now its completely defensless against larger predators, i mean maybe you guys dont have things like wolves and coyotes in Australia in but still
Cows have plenty of defenses, but they are prone to hurting each other or getting injured when handled due to their horns. You have nothing to worry about friend! Cheers!
Well I imagine that these are beef cattle. Each calf that is born will have two potential outcomes in life. Some go on to breed the next generation, and some don't. Once the destination of the animal has been chosen, they're often given a minor medical procedure so that those that won't breed can't. This prevents injuries and strain on the animal. Bulls are turned into steers, and I don't know what the term is that they use, but pretty sure it's okay to say that what they're doing in this video is turning cows into steers also. If the animal isn't going to be bred, it's going to be fed and later feed others. Why make them devote physical resources to producing a calf when they're not up to the breeding standard. When you breed any type of animal, you have some moral obligations. For example, I breed Jacob sheep. They have four horns. But with that trait come some genetically linked traits. Some Jacob sheep have a split eyelid deformity. We're trying to breed that out of the Jacob Sheep. If an animal has the deformity, it's graded by severity. If it's a ram, and it's the mildest form, they might choose to breed him, but usually not. Females with the deformity get a slightly more relaxed standard. (When it's a breed with only about 5000 registered, you don't cull animals unnecessarily). Do you think it is wrong to breed a deformity out of the sheep? Severe cases usually end up with major eye infections, ennucleation of the eye or death. Likewise another issue that is sometimes seen is spinal stenosis. Some of these animals have so many horns (I had one with 8 horns) that they literally get so much bone in their skull that it starts to restrict the spinal cord, and that one is game over. (Sibling of the ram with 8 horns also had it, that ewe was taken out of my breeding program). So is it wrong to have a primitive breed like the Jacob, pretty much the wild type, and try to breed selectively so that animals with genetic defects are eliminated from the gene pool? And if it's okay to breed selectively for a trait that can/will cause severe problems, then why not breed selectively for other traits? I'm guessing your not a dog person and/or don't have a favorite type of dog. Because they've been selectively bred for thousands of years.
It isn’t just the right thing to do, it is our responsibility. Our job is to improve their welfare. Horns are dangerous and lead to unnecessary suffering. They were used to assert dominance through male to male combat and to defend against predators. As the carers of these animals, horns are no longer necessary and polled genes already exist naturally. We are merely accelerating the evolution of the species for their own good. Cheers!
Yet y’all god fearing but you breed selectively , understand evolution and do a bunch of intrusive but very helpful medical procedures that I’m sure is changing the way he/she/it wanted the animal to be lol . Just smack talking about what I’m thinking though you are a great person thank you .
Very interesting Enoch. I must say this is the 1st time I have seen this. Thank you for taking the time to make and upload this video! 💜👍💜
Very interesting! Had no idea it was that easy to spay a cow. Of course that’s said respectfully to your skills.
Interesting video, I’ve heard about cattle spaying, now I understand how it’s done 👍
That's the first time I've ever seen that done. Wow! Good job doc!
That wasn't nearly as offensive as I thought it might be. Slicing and dicing on live critters bothers me in my old age far more than it ever used to for some reason. You do good work Doc. Cheers brother. 👍👍
Never seen that procedure….very nice!
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Never seen that procedure….very nice!,,,,we just usually send them to the packer.
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Really interesting video. Am I on the right track to think that the walls of the rectum were baggy and loose, to the point that you could locate and handle such small organs with such dexterity?
Same as preg testing and AI. Remarkable degree of pliability. Cheers!
So by cutting off both ovaries, obviously, they wouldn't require any sort of hysterectomy. Does this also stop heat? I have a few cows on my property inherited from my father. (He was an equine veterinarian). He apparently performed this operation on the cows. He might have faulty performed in his old age. But my cows still acted up as if they were in heat. But dont interest in my bull. (My local vet said not to worry).
Any thoughts? They are older cows and probably wouldn't be able to carry a calf anyway. It just tends to spook my mares who also heat at that time of year.
If spayed, no heat. If webbed (removed falopian tubes) would still show heat. Maybe they were webbed?
Love ya videos and so much info
Amazing, it's the first time I have seen that❤
Ironically, I was wondering how you would spay a cow.
I think, in the states, we would’ve just shipped her “as-is” to the auction and she would’ve been hamburger and on a shelf in Walmart within 3 days.
I had no idea that spaying a cow was ever done. Can you use a similar technique on horses?
This is fascinating, Enoch. Question though! What is the welfare concern with the horns?? Curious. If anyone else knows then please comment, thanks!
They injure themselves and others with them sadly.
@@EnochtheCowVetthis doesn't surprise me, and is a very good reason to spay.
Thank you for making the beef industry more humane.
Much love from Canada!
Is there danger of bleeding?
Yes, it is the biggest risk.
Interesting. Can it be performed on mares?
Yes, different technique but similar. The ovarian pedicle is crushed with ecrasures from memory. I’ve never performed this procedure on a mare. Cheers!
The risk of peritonitis is much higher in a horse. Ruminants are much better at limiting this type of infectons.
@@EnochtheCowVetGood mor ing my name is Sergio, I am a Veterinarian from Uruguay. First of all, your videos are ver y interesting. In Uruguay are ovariectomy cows using the Dutto method, but this is not useful for ver y Young heifers. I would like to know how to acquire or buy the Willis method instruments? Thank you
Um what.... The overies get reabsorbed? I thought things that lose blood supply end up dying and decaying inside the body, like when kidneys shut down and now you have a rotting organ inside you?
From what I learned you actually keep the bad kidney in you even after they replace it
How do you control bleeding when you cut the ovaries?
When they are not pregnant blood supply is quite small and the procedure is safe. If they are pregnant a different procedure can be employed called “webbing”. Cheers!
WOW short and sweet
Yes, they are less likely to have pain with this procedure, but who can really tell? I had a colposcopy (not a Colpotomy) and LEEP procedure. I was numbed, and still hurt really bad. Most of the heifers and cows who receive this procedure are going to be fattened up for slaughter. That’s life, but being informed is always a good thing. 🐮😊
All of the spayed animals are destined for the abattoir, that is why the procedure is done, to allow them to gain weight without trying to continually rear a calf. This allows the producer to improve the traits within his or her herd ensuring the calves are born from their better cows. In a normal beef or dairy operation they are prevented from meeting bulls instead. Bull control is impossible in pastoral settings. (Hundreds of thousands to millions of acres). Cheers!
Does the procedure hurt them?
They don’t appear to sense the culpotomy nor the ovarioectomy. Antibiotics are routine. Cheers!
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I had been avoiding watching this video as I was so sure it was going to be really sad and cruel to watch but damned if that cow didn’t even seem to notice the procedure!
Didn’t realise it was such a common thing to be done over here either
Well… I’m glad that you were surprised! My job is improving welfare outcomes!
@@EnochtheCowVet my comment probably didn’t come across great 😂
I worked on horse studs and know my way vaguely around a cow as well, wasn’t saying I was expecting you to be cruel I just really thought it would be so much more painful for the cow. I understand the reasons why these things are done the way they are and not under anaesthetic and I mostly agree but I don’t like seeing it coz I’ve gone soft from being away from the land for so long 😂
Sorry I wasn’t admonishing you at all, I meant, I was glad you were positively surprised! Cheers!
Well, I, for one, was cringing thru the whole thing, thinking about how it hurt me to have things done that were a lot less than what she went thru.
@@Becky-dw8lw just because they are the same organs doesn’t mean they have a the same nerve endings. If that cow had felt pain she would have been fighting for her life to escape instead of fidgeting and worrying about his hand up her bum
I would love to work with you but i live in Texas 😢
Wow! I’m glad that’s not how it’s done with humans! 😅😂
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I would think it would be put under anesthesia!!!
why? they cant feel it anyway
Why put any more risks into the op than is needed. A few mins and she done
When it's a large ungulate like a cow, an elephant, a giraffe, a horse, there is a calculation that must be made about general anasthesia. Since the risk of death is higher to use general anaesthesia out in the field, and it's impractical to bring them into a surgical center, they have to balance out the pros and the cons for each procedure. Sounds like research was done to determine the pain receptors in this region. We don't have pain receptors everywhere in our bodies, and the same is true of cows. So if an area of the body doesn't have pain receptors, then the animal won't feel any pain when you do a surgical procedure. So then, if you know that the animal has minimal discomfort and no pain, there is zero benefit to doing general anaesthsia out in the field, so to speak. The idea with any livestock, who can't be informed about what is happening, is to cause them the least distress possible. And for animals, that means time. You want to be able to mess with them the least possible. Because the longer you've got them in a headlock, the more stressed they get. Often it's a balancing act. I've seen an expert dehorner in action. He uses heat to burn the horn buds. He acts fast, so that from the time he touches the calf to the time they calf is no longer being handled is about 90 seconds. Yes, there is pain involved. But the choice would be to capture the calf, give it multiple local anasthetic injections all around each horn, wait for it to set in (all the while the animal is stressed and feeling many many painful injections) and then after half an hour the dehorning takes place and they don't feel it. Do you give them 90 seconds of stress and two pain points, or 30 minutes of stress and six to twelve painful pin pricks to the face? It's always a balancing act.... is the benefit of the anasthesia real or imagined. And it does make sense that there are parts of the birth canal that aren't loaded with pain receptors.... why put pain receptors in a place that generally only deals with birth?
Amen!
@@LukePountney-h2l Exactly. IIRC, bovines aren't really good candidates for general, anyway... regurgitation and all that.
Yes, I agree with everyone else. It was interesting, but it also made me feel kind of sick and that’s something I would pay to see.Enoch, your job ain’t pretty. 😂
Forgive me, but what is the point of a cow that can't breed?
How do the economics work out that your rates are cheap enough and beef on the hoof expensive enough to make the weight she'll gain worth the money?
They're not pets, after all.
Station cattle are mustered once or twice a year. Mickey (unwanted rogue bulls) keep undesirable cows pregnant and too skinny too sell. Undesirable cows are spayed so they can avoid falling pregnant and can be sold. Better type cows continue to raise calves.
@@EnochtheCowVet So it works out because there's so little investment in feeding them and the labor-cost of handling them is low? Where in a more intensive environment they'd be sold as-is for dog food?
Stations are at the whim of Mother Nature. On a traditional beef enterprise the keeper heifers are selected and the rest (the cull heifers) are isolated from bulls. Impossible on stations (million acre properties). So cull heifers are spayed so they can maintain body condition and the keepers keep producing calves. Make sense now?
@@EnochtheCowVet Yes. Thank you for the explanation.
You bet! Cheers!
Your video's are so interesting and educational but I have a hard time hearing the audio with all the wind noises. It would be great if you had a wind sock for your mike or edit the wind noises out during editing.
I bought one but thought the wind wasn’t too bad this day!
Honestly i dont understand wanting to breed an animals way of defense out of them. Sure it would be safer for the handler but at the same time now its completely defensless against larger predators, i mean maybe you guys dont have things like wolves and coyotes in Australia in but still
Cows have plenty of defenses, but they are prone to hurting each other or getting injured when handled due to their horns. You have nothing to worry about friend! Cheers!
What right do we have to "breed" a trait out of another living animal?
Well I imagine that these are beef cattle. Each calf that is born will have two potential outcomes in life. Some go on to breed the next generation, and some don't. Once the destination of the animal has been chosen, they're often given a minor medical procedure so that those that won't breed can't. This prevents injuries and strain on the animal. Bulls are turned into steers, and I don't know what the term is that they use, but pretty sure it's okay to say that what they're doing in this video is turning cows into steers also. If the animal isn't going to be bred, it's going to be fed and later feed others. Why make them devote physical resources to producing a calf when they're not up to the breeding standard.
When you breed any type of animal, you have some moral obligations. For example, I breed Jacob sheep. They have four horns. But with that trait come some genetically linked traits. Some Jacob sheep have a split eyelid deformity. We're trying to breed that out of the Jacob Sheep. If an animal has the deformity, it's graded by severity. If it's a ram, and it's the mildest form, they might choose to breed him, but usually not. Females with the deformity get a slightly more relaxed standard. (When it's a breed with only about 5000 registered, you don't cull animals unnecessarily). Do you think it is wrong to breed a deformity out of the sheep? Severe cases usually end up with major eye infections, ennucleation of the eye or death. Likewise another issue that is sometimes seen is spinal stenosis. Some of these animals have so many horns (I had one with 8 horns) that they literally get so much bone in their skull that it starts to restrict the spinal cord, and that one is game over. (Sibling of the ram with 8 horns also had it, that ewe was taken out of my breeding program).
So is it wrong to have a primitive breed like the Jacob, pretty much the wild type, and try to breed selectively so that animals with genetic defects are eliminated from the gene pool? And if it's okay to breed selectively for a trait that can/will cause severe problems, then why not breed selectively for other traits? I'm guessing your not a dog person and/or don't have a favorite type of dog. Because they've been selectively bred for thousands of years.
It isn’t just the right thing to do, it is our responsibility. Our job is to improve their welfare. Horns are dangerous and lead to unnecessary suffering. They were used to assert dominance through male to male combat and to defend against predators. As the carers of these animals, horns are no longer necessary and polled genes already exist naturally. We are merely accelerating the evolution of the species for their own good. Cheers!
i hate to tell you this but we breed these cows into existence.. most of the cows today would not exist without us.
@@LadyLithias lmao it’s ironic how you guys are god fearing yet you understand evolution 😂 lol . Hilarious really.
The same right we have to breed a trait IN to an animal.
Yet y’all god fearing but you breed selectively , understand evolution and do a bunch of intrusive but very helpful medical procedures that I’m sure is changing the way he/she/it wanted the animal to be lol . Just smack talking about what I’m thinking though you are a great person thank you .
You end your videos kinda short
They are snippets from me working, I’m not really a TH-camr just a vet with an iPhone. Cheers!
@@EnochtheCowVet you should extend your videos