@@Sisanrana7 It's painful for undertale fans too... he made Goku stronger than Seraphim, who is literal god, who is stronger than Asriel, I'm not even talking about later(he made Goku stronger than King Godverse, which means he knows nothing about godverse and even undertale multiverse including alphatale)
@@bocchiii. meh I don't care if he made a character stronger even if he doesn't know anything about him atlist he is really good at making us entertained
@@floppa615a smaller multiverse and ink sans is an equal to goku because bro can easily create universe by drawing that include thousands of timeline per universe,you realize how ridiculous is to compare goku even to error 404 when error 404 can effortlessly destroy an multiverse where goku vs berus did not even destroy 1 universe and it was the red air one,except if the transformation after the red make him 100000000 time stronger he would has 0 chance to even stand against any godverse character
@@quelbelpezzoditelone3946tree (3) time to bad time essa é minha AU a história e que sans conseguiu trazer Gaster de volta e já se passaram 1987 rotas genocidas nisso o sans fico bravo e se clonou e Gaster foi ajudar na batalha resultando em lasth breath sans duplo mais as almas que asgore forneceu
I believe that the Multiverse Gods, Error 404 is powerful enough to literally corrupt his world. Even if he manages to defeat him, he’ll go on a form called B.U.T.T.E.R.F.L.Y. Form.
this whole video is a lie goku stops at KM which would be much too strong for him anyway KM could fight all these forms and he would still win drawing things like everything sans, god vers or even error 404 is a big exaggeration
Cool video! But with some mistakes, like Alpha is the weakest sans in AlphaTale, and King Multiverse is stronger than Infected Sans. Anyways good video! (Sad there was no Fatal Error ;-;l
We not going to talk about the fact that omni 404 has no limit to his power yet somehow Goku is more powerful.. Looks like someone need to actually read the wikis and that (also yes omni 404 is not a cannon au character but he still used it soo)
@@BurgermanThefirst yes I know both characters but if you read Omni 404’s wiki he has infinity power and he rises it until he can beat his opponent also omni 404 could destroy universe without even trying
Have seen you seem what SIX human souls can do, let alone seven? Asriel had seven, and he could play with and delete timelines at his pleasure.Seraphim has EIGHT.He's beyond a god.The only reason he would 't destroy Goku would be his own inexperience of that sort of power.@@azizbenrejeb5875
If seraphim is stronger than error, than he can collapse a universe... so i mean.... Example: ultra tale sans has one soul and is like a low-level saitama, so eight can do some crazy stuff.
Bro littletale or little sans are cute And my favorite sans are 1.little sans because hes cute 2.poketale/poke sans because i like watch pokemon 3.anti virus 4.undertale(normal) 5.last breath 6.epictale 7.ocean tale 8.reapertale 9.glitch sans 10.EVERYTHING EDIT :what your all favorite?
I think the result was too predictable, goku would only have a chance to beat sans in his normal universe, but to deal with every universe that has sans, the difference is abysmal, but well, although I'm not like those idiots who believe that everything is capable of ending goku, I know there are characters that can beat it easily, but still, great video Ps: (now that I realize, goku can defeat many characters, but equally many characters can defeat him, he's a very balanced character, he's not weak, but he's not the big thing either).
16:36 Goku starts at 500 sextillion and with UIO goes to 50 septillion which is only a 100x increase. He could get that with SSJ2 so Goku's base power level needs to be fixed here
@@supergogeta7970 Well I don't know the multiplier for SSJG but here he makes the multiplier 50x on top of SSJ3 which is 400x base form at 13:35 so imma just use that. SSJB is stated to be a SSJG that went SSJ so it should be x50 on top of SSJG and then there's KKx20 on top of that which brings the total multiplier to 20,000,000 (20 Million). This video gives goku a 250x multiplier in UI on top of SSJB KKx20 15:20. The total multiplier is now 5 billion. 50 septillion devided by 5 billion is 10 quintiliion for base goku at 16:36 *Note the SSJG multiplier and UI multiplier are taken from this video to my knowledge there is no definitive multiplier for them so I just took what was in the video so it could remain consistent.*
People don’t seem to understand undertales fighting style when you battle a monster you get trapped in a box here their is no way out then sans could simply summon blue bones and if any of them try to move their donezo or sans could just spam gaster blasters at em until he gets tired or they die
Godverse sans can be mortal sometimes and get killed many times but always come back Omni 404 always use full power bc he didn't want to be defeated or see someone stronger than him
0:33 Littletale! Sans 0:49 Underpants! Sans 1:08 Sciencetale! Sans 1:34 Altertale! Sans 1:51 Underswap! Sans 2:16 Poketale! Sans 2:34 Storyshift! Sans 2:51 Mafiatale! Sans 3:08 Dancetale! Sans 3:17 Birdtale! Sans 3:24 Undertale! Sans 3:33 Understeam! Sans 3:42 Futurtale! Sans 3:50 Oceantale! Sans 3:59 Outertale! Sans 4:08 Chesstale! Sans 4:16 Underfell! Sans 4:24 Fantasytale! Sans 4:33 Overtale! Sans 4:55 Zephyrtale! Sans 5:03 Undernight! Sans 5:12 Hardtale! Sans 5:20 Negatale! Sans 5:38 Horrortale! Sans 5:46 Insanity! Sans 5:55 Distrust! Sans 6:03 Dusttale! Sans 6:12 Echotale! Sans 6:20 Hate! Sans 6:29 Ultratale! Sans 6:45 Killer! Sans 6:54 Sudden Changes! Sans 7:04 Fresh! Sans 7:13 Geno! Sans 7:20 Glitchtale! Sans 7:42 Ultra! Sans 7:51 Epictale! Sans 8:00 X-Tale! Cross 8:07 Color! Sana 8:31 Last Breath! Sans 8:40 Anti-Virus! Sans 8:48 Virus! Sans 8:57 Fresh Ink! Sans 9:06 Reapertale! Sans 9:15 Dream! Sans 9:35 Nightmare! Sans 10:10 Seraphim! Sans 10:27 Demitale! Sans 10:52 Abysstale! Sans 11:01 Quantumtale! Sans 11:10 Ink! Sans 11:18 Error! Sans 11:27 Fatal Error! Sans 11:35 Xans 11:44 Bill! Sans 12:48 Core! Sans 12:56 King Multiverse! Sans 13:48 Alpha! Sans 14:10 Infected! Sans 14:35 Error 404! Sans 14:43 Virus 404! Sans 14:52 Just 404! Sans 15:13 Omnipotent! Sans 15:31 Loading! Sans 15:39 The Observer! Sans 15:47 Destruction! Sans 16:07 Omni-Broken! Sans 16:14 Omni-Broken! Sans 16:27 Just God 404! Sans 16:49 4th Breaker! Sans 17:09 Glitch 504! Sans 17:18 Godverse! Sans 17:35 Omni 404! Sans 17:44 Omnigodity! Sans 18:00 King Godverse! Sans 18:07 Everything! Sans
@@rehanrashid849 không tôi không có lo lắng mỗi con số tôi chỉ đang nói error 404 không hề có from đó nếu muốn biết thêm về error 404 thì qua bên alphatale tìm hiểu thêm
yeah especially error404 since this guy just one shotted a unameable who is a high-outerversal being,and conected to a realm that far more powerful than astral mother's super computer, it was building like structure with each structure was a woodin cardinal,who was outerversal,that is the mainframe
More than 404 i think that bill should have a higher power level after all he able to controll time and the bill scythe is able to erase being as 404 or omni
@@AquaFieds the unnameable dint die, tho he got quite a beating it took a dam while for him to regen(some months i think), also the unnameable as said wasnt in his element so he was a little bit weakened by not being in his original realm.
actually, everythings sans is like a cheat, just like fusioning goku with audience or something like that, it's literally a machine, not a sans, also, it can be beat easily by avatars, so... if goku can't defeat everything sans then he is nothing to avatars that can easily kill everything sans
Guys, he forgot the other forms of Goku from db legends etc. so goku actually wins in this fight, he just says that goku forms end there are Omni king goku! WRONG, His forms never ends which (and also sans universes) which means that their fight will go on forever! 😢😢😢😢😢
@@Virapanda taking in count that were using fanon king error omin 404 virus sans, why can we just use goku super saiyan 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 with kaioken while having the god doctrine while using the mastered ui while being the grand priest, doesnt sound fair right?
As someone who respects both undertake and dragon ball fandom I have to say that sans would eventually win though it would be a very very hard battle for him but once again goku would be happy because he found a strong opponent. So win win
@@jairojoelrocagarcia3270nahhhh thats fake especially this vid its cap goku's best feat is universe xeno goku nigh omnipotent so he is low outverse while sans au error 404 best feat at base is high complex multiversal and his final form perfect 404 is outversal
Also dont count in drip goku or ill take out 4th breaker z sans who is stronger than shaggy 100% without even trying plus 4th breaker z sans is stronger than everything sans,everything isnt mixed with 4th breaker z sans so the last one was cap
Reaper Sans is death itself and can kill with a touch, he’s also immortal and scales to error sans if not above which would put him at 5D easily if not 6D, all he would need to do is touch Goku and he’s toast
@@SjhrumbleI’m not going to argue who is better, but I am going to broaden your knowledge only a tad. Nearly all of the sans have many unique qualities added by the people who’ve made them. Quite a few are pretty much loopholes to exploit powerful glitches. One such (not even a super strong one) can decide a person, and remake them into whatever they want
Imagination would kill everything and everything except us humans (but you must be able to have a brain which can think beyond what humans can) the normal humans was be smoked well
If 100 trillion is his base and mui is multipliying his power lvl by 30 trillion that means he would actually have 3 octillion power plus the omni king goku damn he didnt even do the calculations
@@QuandaleJunior445 and here we have a what is known as a "goku fan" or "dragon ball stan" yelling at the void like a baby for a comment that terribly hurts them. instead why don't you give arguments before anything
I like how you made Glitchtale sans, a sans that is weaker than Betty stronger than Fresh, a universe traveller capable to morph into others. (Ultra too)
Thing that i think strong than EVERYTHING 3.Everything 2.King Omniverse 1.Unlimited Descrution Sans/UDS. EDIT 1:(GHOST VS SHAGGY ) WHO WIN?! The Ghost one is also Form FNF is like all Original sound become one
@@giabao19591 Well, this is not a form, I was a little sealed up, but everything sans itself is done due to the omni key, which can only be used by the king godverse
Yknow, sans aus are mostly op cuz people design them to be op, like Sans would lose to goku no problem (dont come saying im wrong since in the TOP its proven that they fight at the speed of light), but people make AUs have op abilitys, like what cant everything do? hes EVERYTHING!
gonna have to disagree here because well He's bound to the wiki and isn't really much of a fighter Wiki in his true form is just a shapeshifter and everything sans is just well Beyond God Tiers In reality wiki couldn't really do much against everything
obviously that's kinda Cap King godverse is literally much stronger one of strongest sans as that since he can't died or he can however he is way more stronger then goku then you think if king godverse use his Final strongest form is literally infinite and destroy goku as easy
@@Void_Edits5204 It's stated his power is infinite, he is a Sans that absorbed all the human SOULS and became a being called The Thought, also called God Seraphim, he is more powerful than nearly every sans in the multiverse, and Error even scales above him, Error is complex multiversal despite what people say.
@@qwert10k If by gods you mean the Kaioshin, yeah, they aren't that powerful compared to any of the Buu Saga characters. Seraphim in lore would clear the entire Buu Saga by himself, he has abilities to go beyond his narrative and see the code that creates his story. He made Gaster afraid, Gaster is a transdimensional being that is basically a living schrodingers paradox. Seraphim sans is stated multiple times to have infinite power, he has access to all the base soul types, which allows him to adapt to any situation, his only weakness is that he contains Chara who can screw with his mind.
Well this fight isn't really fair, mainly because sans au's are from the fandom so can't they just make a sans that can beat Goku or a sans similar to him?
Obviously They Wouldnt Beat Goku In Power , But With Their Abilitys , Sure they can (I WONT COUNT ALL OF THE OVER POWERED HERE , SO DONT CRY TELLING ME TO FORGOT ANY OTHER SANS BECAUSE IM GIVING EXAMPLES) If Goku Is Dumb Enough to Fight Someone Like Error , He will become Just Another Puppet. Nightmare? His Ssj Forms might Be Able to Fight him Since in The Majin Buu Saga , We know Ssj Can Emit Light which Nightmare Gets Damaged. Seraphim? We Know Seraphim Is The Same Powerful as Asriel God of Hyperdeath Its Proven Impossible to Damage him With Just Ssj Forms , Kaioken Blue or UI can Damage him But i cant be sure Correct me if im Wrong. King? Literally Just a Game Over. Ink? If He Knows What he is doing , Can give him a fight , If he is not then Ink Can win. Infected? Mind games , Gokus Soul is just dead.
just like shadikal15 confirmed that if fresh!sans's parasite is trying to take over infected the parasite will goes insane by infected's mind and dies and if it was trying to take over 404 it will instantly crushed and destroyed by 404's power
Seraphim Sans possess 6 humans souls, therefore, he's stronger than Goku. Why? Because with six human souls in Undertale, if no one has more DT than you, then you're the god of the timeline and you can do anything.
The ruler and strongest of multiverses...capable of reseting power..destroying universes with just one move..loses to a person that cant win to a god or the angel..
@@lonn.y yep and i know a lot of undertale aus.Goku cant beat zeno obviously and zeno id merely a fraction of the power of "king" Capable of doing everything...First research
Like his name even is "King" Ruler of multiverses Sans..is not 12 universes like zeno (yea im not counting 13 and 14) .King is the strongest out of billions of universes.His side hands are error and ink so..Please research you db fanboy
Just a weird thought. How is a chess playing sans stronger than a sans that can literally shoot stars down at will, which is practically 100x bigger than goku and the actual sanses.
i think everything sans beats shaggy tbh because he has the power of every sans anyone having the omni key is unstoppable (yes the omni key can do ANYTHING (yes the omni key is Jevil lol))
11:09 every Sans from this point on is Outerversal due to being able to manipulate codes, categorified structures and complex mathematical models that transcend space and time, and this entire video is headcanon, the power levels are wrong, the math is incorrect and Virus 404 is not stronger than Error 404, hence the entire reason why Virus 404 cannot simply get rid of him. And 4th Breaker Z has absolute omnipotence. "Everything Sans" also isn't even a sans it's just a robot that looks like sans and it's fodder, it's supposed to be the Thought Robot version of sans like how DC has cosmic armor Superman but it's poorly written garbage like 99% of Godverse trash.
Virus 404 isn't from alpha tale and isn't weaker than Normal 404. He just can't effect him with most of his moves. Other than that he is far stronger than him, being stronger than mother virus. Who is stronger than 404. 🤷♂️
@@Skrillmast3r Error 404 is stronger, he has better feats, better statements, and more transformations that put him at absurd levels. They are both Hyperversal in base but Virus404 in Godverse needed to combine himself with Jacob and Ten just to fight Butterfly Puppet Master 404 who's stated somewhere to rival Unnamables if I remember correctly. Not to mention both of them at base state are both 11 to 12D, and with COB 404 is already Outerversal in base, he destroys Virus 404.
@@Skrillmast3r By the way, I'm also scaling from Vs Battle Wiki's definition of Outerversal scaling since they don't believe it's possible to be truly above concepts of space and time, so they use Aleph sets to scale into Outerversal.
Everything sans only wins if he's being controlled since he's a controlled machine if not he loses not due to having less power but due to not doing anything
14:31first
Almost
Darn
No me first
@@S0meRandumbDude42 You didnt even comment anything lol
@@abcdcfggh you can't see my comment?
This video is crazy dude i loved it!
Finally you did a Goku video. I like this one. You did a fantastic job with this one Pro.
If ur a DBZ fan then this video would be really painfull for u
@@Sisanrana7 exactly
@@Sisanrana7 It's painful for undertale fans too... he made Goku stronger than Seraphim, who is literal god, who is stronger than Asriel, I'm not even talking about later(he made Goku stronger than King Godverse, which means he knows nothing about godverse and even undertale multiverse including alphatale)
@@bocchiii.
That's right buddy
@@bocchiii. meh I don't care if he made a character stronger even if he doesn't know anything about him atlist he is really good at making us entertained
base error casually shaking 100 hyperverses with SHOCKWAVES
Specifying the tier of the feats of these sanses are invalid xD (the website itself says it)
A monkey that abliterated 100 super dimensions that are larger than macrocosms.
true and killer sans is ALOT stronger then SSB KAIOKEN X20
@@SleepyRem69SSB kaioken 20 Is far superior to killer,but error or ink and a hypothetical full power Nightmare beat ssb k20
Can god verse ink stand a chance against Goku tho@@rikypes8941
The last time i watched your vids were like 5 years ago and i decided to watch them again. Keep the good work up
12:03 God dayum that was a cool effect
Glitch sana? First time hear
Finally, a fight against someone who gets stronger each time they scream and a skeleton full of puns and magic energy
XD
The fight I've always been waiting for
Goku wins low diff
@@toto.gr1 🤓
@@snugglebunny5183 look Him puts on his name godverse sans 🤓🤓🤓
This video is a good way to introduce both fandoms to each other, I think anyway
I wish man, there’s these fans saying if it was actually all au’s, the entire db universe would be erased like these people
@@ArienGames db is a multi verse tho
@@floppa615 I’m just saying what the other people said I know
@user-pg6vy8gp2h I understand
@@floppa615a smaller multiverse and ink sans is an equal to goku because bro can easily create universe by drawing that include thousands of timeline per universe,you realize how ridiculous is to compare goku even to error 404 when error 404 can effortlessly destroy an multiverse where goku vs berus did not even destroy 1 universe and it was the red air one,except if the transformation after the red make him 100000000 time stronger he would has 0 chance to even stand against any godverse character
I love your videos I watched you for 4 years now keep up the good content your the best sans youtuber
ok so epictale loses to goku but you gotta admit goku would be caught off guard by epic using the kamehameha
Epic says kame hame bruh
@@Fresh_SansYOLO yes,the epic version of kamehameha
Kamehamebruh
@@glenn87104 its the legend himself
@@starbreaker707 yes bow for me mortals
Fact: Goku won't see Adam because he doesn't believe in him.
The Dream pic you have there, that's Dreamswap Dream as far as I know.
there are a lot of mistakes, I think they have lowered administrators like ink and eror a lot.
Undertale:fans the sans is more storge
9:19
is in the minute 9:19
@sans_camman18 nah he cheated
This is not correct power level scaling as goku's power level In the saiyan saga was "OVER 9 THOUSANDDDD!!!"
The fact that sans has so munch fan art makes this terrifying
È il bello di avere un fandom cosi acceso anche ne 2022
@@quelbelpezzoditelone3946tree (3) time to bad time essa é minha AU a história e que sans conseguiu trazer Gaster de volta e já se passaram 1987 rotas genocidas nisso o sans fico bravo e se clonou e Gaster foi ajudar na batalha resultando em lasth breath sans duplo mais as almas que asgore forneceu
you think this is a lot?
That's so epic good job!!
I believe that the Multiverse Gods, Error 404 is powerful enough to literally corrupt his world. Even if he manages to defeat him, he’ll go on a form called B.U.T.T.E.R.F.L.Y. Form.
so true
J404,J404B,Butterfly666,Error 666👍
Omni404
perfect 404
@@YURITUBE121 There's no Gabriel here, so no.
King multiverse is really powerful, it took goku a while to catch up to him going thru a few stages.
Mean through and it’s stages right?😅
And you said guku😂
He didn’t even edit it and it’s goku and he didn’t say guku
this whole video is a lie goku stops at KM which would be much too strong for him anyway KM could fight all these forms and he would still win drawing things like everything sans, god vers or even error 404 is a big exaggeration
As undertale fan i can say that some sans power levels are really broken
@@ExulInsani There has to be some cringe Sans OC with like infinite attack and infinite defense and infinite hp
@@ExulInsani One Punch Sans
Can be one shot, but can one shot you
@@ExulInsani I just say that some power levels in this video are wrong
@@radu7716 you have noticed that too?
Bro error 404 butterfly should be the max sans power
Cool video!
But with some mistakes, like Alpha is the weakest sans in AlphaTale,
and King Multiverse is stronger than Infected Sans. Anyways good video!
(Sad there was no Fatal Error ;-;l
There was a fatal error
Km equal with alpha in power shad said this
And infected far stronger then km and alpha
Then ya gota change pic for alpha in his corrupted mode/judge
Look closely, there is Fatal Error
@@404alpha2 O, thanks Jesus for illuminating my way to Fatal Error.
I like how these Sans au's Are literally gods But got bodied by children with knives
Every sans here kills frisk and destroys resets
@@yeahnvmnvm1331 Not all of them
Not all of them, but yeah, that just proves that reducing Frisk/Chara to "child with a knife" is not entirely accurate
Classic!Sans is everything but strong tho
*OMG 2 years! 🤯 I remember watching this in zoom lol*
Same
We not going to talk about the fact that omni 404 has no limit to his power yet somehow Goku is more powerful..
Looks like someone need to actually read the wikis and that (also yes omni 404 is not a cannon au character but he still used it soo)
OK so basically if you don’t know Goku can destroy universes just sayain *pun*
@@BurgermanThefirst yes I know both characters but if you read Omni 404’s wiki he has infinity power and he rises it until he can beat his opponent also omni 404 could destroy universe without even trying
Yeah he really need to read of course 4th breaker Omnigodity omni404 and King Godverse stronger than goku Max power
@𝗞𝗿𝗼𝗯𝘂𝘀 acuttaly Omnigodity boss of omni404 in omni team and stronger than him
@@BurgermanThefirst Im watched Dbz +dps . He not stonger than error. Maybe weaker than nightmare. Goku justnverg buils
I like how the rank level shows infinite and the power level shows 1 decillion
Xd
I literally said that exact sentence out loud to myself lol
when all the overvaluation of the fandom comes together in a single character omg this was so ridiculous i love it 😂
Kkkk
Mexeu hoje ou perdeu para tá começar com o PV
Esse Goku é só foi o começo
Você sabe que eu ainda tô criando um pouco de sangue
Daqui a pouco as pessoas vão criar
I hope we remember that a power level of 408 was enough to destroy the moon. So the sanses are a lot more powerful then you’d think at first
Going for the smash theme music you did here
Sans would’ve been awesome in smash ultimate
Hel pal, can you do a power level including "Bully Maguire vs Error404 Sans" ?
Dude no how bout king godverse sans
If we take film then 404 will win.
But if comic...he will just clap him(or not if we use JUSTBUTTERFLY)
Seraphim is literally a god, with eight human souls.But somehow Super Saiyan 3 is stronger?! Makes no sense.
because super saiyan 3 is already multiversal with proper scaling
Base DBS and manga goku can be scaled to high outerversal.
Have seen you seem what SIX human souls can do, let alone seven? Asriel had seven, and he could play with and delete timelines at his pleasure.Seraphim has EIGHT.He's beyond a god.The only reason he would 't destroy Goku would be his own inexperience of that sort of power.@@azizbenrejeb5875
I don't think ss3 would beat seraphim because while it is strong, seraphim is a god, a Goku only gets to god killing status around mui
Majin Buu is a god killer and ssj3 can easily clap him so it only makes sense that goku could clap a fan made sans.
If seraphim is stronger than error, than he can collapse a universe... so i mean....
Example: ultra tale sans has one soul and is like a low-level saitama, so eight can do some crazy stuff.
Bro littletale or little sans are cute
And my favorite sans are
1.little sans because hes cute
2.poketale/poke sans because i like watch pokemon
3.anti virus
4.undertale(normal)
5.last breath
6.epictale
7.ocean tale
8.reapertale
9.glitch sans
10.EVERYTHING
EDIT :what your all favorite?
Sans: "*exist*"
AU maker: And i took that personality.
What is au tho
@@sybersyukri6597alternate universe
@@Endi-Editz Oh thanks
As long as Geno stays in the save screen he’s immortal
He cant die by damage*
error:you sure?
將這些磁場相去無幾情人節
for 10 minutes until error sans appears
@V1nce cuh’s retarded cousin by marriage i kinda want to know what happen if error,fatal and 404 touch each other at the same time,
Very cool please tell me what font do you use for the levels
Comic sans
(Goku uses the following form)
Undertale fans: Oh wait, we just came up with a new sans!
lightwork
Undertale fans know that sans can't beat goku so they make up stuff
@@qwert10k yeah but almost anything thats real will have alternate universes
@TripeJ449 the guy didn't include fanmade goku but added fanmade sans's cuz if they did add a fanmade goku then even everything sans is cooked.
@@qwert10k they'd literally just make another sans thats stronger than the fanmade goku, so its really a tie
Goku : You can't defeat me.
Sans : I know,but he can.
Sans Fandom : Random things time...
Goku fandom: P A T H E T H I C
the power levels are legit just toxicity in fandoms them lmao
@@masterssandwich3312 true
@@tslegendery5861 darkevilzero: P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C
@@tslegendery5861 omni404 could probably beat them and the rest of the godverse sanses could easily beat them
I think the result was too predictable, goku would only have a chance to beat sans in his normal universe, but to deal with every universe that has sans, the difference is abysmal, but well, although I'm not like those idiots who believe that everything is capable of ending goku, I know there are characters that can beat it easily, but still, great video
Ps: (now that I realize, goku can defeat many characters, but equally many characters can defeat him, he's a very balanced character, he's not weak, but he's not the big thing either).
I don't understand sonu think that Goku Is stronger than AU or AU are stronger than Goku?
@@valentinoralvi3554 Hey, it's not for nothing but, what are you trying to say?
@@realmax6544 bruh nothing just don't care
@@realmax6544 so u*
@@realmax6544 i wanted to Say so u, not sonu lol
Do part 2! Please
I love these these both and they are AWESOME
quite interesting that the classic sans is stronger than a few sanses ( though every human's world had an insane sans )
I think he means the shalagnavania classic idk if I spelled that right lol
It's because he is in badtime mode because the other sans are not as strong compared to classic badtime mode
@@tvgg4376 hm
@@cloudylightmc5765 no, hes right, some sanses are better than classic
@@tvgg4376 badtime mode or not its still the same sans
Music epic😎😎😎
16:36 Goku starts at 500 sextillion and with UIO goes to 50 septillion which is only a 100x increase. He could get that with SSJ2 so Goku's base power level needs to be fixed here
Cap
Wait who the fuck are you
So what should it be then?
@@supergogeta7970 Well I don't know the multiplier for SSJG but here he makes the multiplier 50x on top of SSJ3 which is 400x base form at 13:35 so imma just use that. SSJB is stated to be a SSJG that went SSJ so it should be x50 on top of SSJG and then there's KKx20 on top of that which brings the total multiplier to 20,000,000 (20 Million). This video gives goku a 250x multiplier in UI on top of SSJB KKx20 15:20. The total multiplier is now 5 billion. 50 septillion devided by 5 billion is 10 quintiliion for base goku at 16:36
*Note the SSJG multiplier and UI multiplier are taken from this video to my knowledge there is no definitive multiplier for them so I just took what was in the video so it could remain consistent.*
@@imakegachaclubvideos6323 cap bro everything sans solos the whole dbz universe
good video
People don’t seem to understand undertales fighting style when you battle a monster you get trapped in a box here their is no way out then sans could simply summon blue bones and if any of them try to move their donezo or sans could just spam gaster blasters at em until he gets tired or they die
so were giving ut fans the adventage by using that system instead of actual combat
Nah
That's unfair
If sans needs that just to win then massive L (massive is not the word)
If we look at delta sans or underverse they were throwing hands so not really a valid argument
Godverse is stronger than Omni404 right?
And great joib ur power levels are gettng really good
Which one?, lots of characters stronger than omni404
@@leoduckthedebater616 godverse sans
Godverse sans can be mortal sometimes and get killed many times but always come back Omni 404 always use full power bc he didn't want to be defeated or see someone stronger than him
@@tamayocj7691 I think I have heard godverse sans stronger than king godverse and king godverse is way stronger than omni404
@@tamayocj7691 and godverse can just change 404 coming back ability
Goku would be in whole world of pain if he stole sans's ketchup
Seja o clássico ou não
Xeno Goku: "Not so fast"
Composite Sans:
😅@@qwert10k
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б Xeno Goku: Ah shi-
@@qwert10k [INSERT "TO BE CONTINUED" MEME HERE"]
Perfekt 😊
0:33 Littletale! Sans
0:49 Underpants! Sans
1:08 Sciencetale! Sans
1:34 Altertale! Sans
1:51 Underswap! Sans
2:16 Poketale! Sans
2:34 Storyshift! Sans
2:51 Mafiatale! Sans
3:08 Dancetale! Sans
3:17 Birdtale! Sans
3:24 Undertale! Sans
3:33 Understeam! Sans
3:42 Futurtale! Sans
3:50 Oceantale! Sans
3:59 Outertale! Sans
4:08 Chesstale! Sans
4:16 Underfell! Sans
4:24 Fantasytale! Sans
4:33 Overtale! Sans
4:55 Zephyrtale! Sans
5:03 Undernight! Sans
5:12 Hardtale! Sans
5:20 Negatale! Sans
5:38 Horrortale! Sans
5:46 Insanity! Sans
5:55 Distrust! Sans
6:03 Dusttale! Sans
6:12 Echotale! Sans
6:20 Hate! Sans
6:29 Ultratale! Sans
6:45 Killer! Sans
6:54 Sudden Changes! Sans
7:04 Fresh! Sans
7:13 Geno! Sans
7:20 Glitchtale! Sans
7:42 Ultra! Sans
7:51 Epictale! Sans
8:00 X-Tale! Cross
8:07 Color! Sana
8:31 Last Breath! Sans
8:40 Anti-Virus! Sans
8:48 Virus! Sans
8:57 Fresh Ink! Sans
9:06 Reapertale! Sans
9:15 Dream! Sans
9:35 Nightmare! Sans
10:10 Seraphim! Sans
10:27 Demitale! Sans
10:52 Abysstale! Sans
11:01 Quantumtale! Sans
11:10 Ink! Sans
11:18 Error! Sans
11:27 Fatal Error! Sans
11:35 Xans
11:44 Bill! Sans
12:48 Core! Sans
12:56 King Multiverse! Sans
13:48 Alpha! Sans
14:10 Infected! Sans
14:35 Error 404! Sans
14:43 Virus 404! Sans
14:52 Just 404! Sans
15:13 Omnipotent! Sans
15:31 Loading! Sans
15:39 The Observer! Sans
15:47 Destruction! Sans
16:07 Omni-Broken! Sans
16:14 Omni-Broken! Sans
16:27 Just God 404! Sans
16:49 4th Breaker! Sans
17:09 Glitch 504! Sans
17:18 Godverse! Sans
17:35 Omni 404! Sans
17:44 Omnigodity! Sans
18:00 King Godverse! Sans
18:07 Everything! Sans
Không có just god sans đâu tác giả còn không biết nữa mà
Lol you worte almost every sans number
@@inhquyto9229 HE KNOW AND STFU
@@rehanrashid849 không tôi không có lo lắng mỗi con số tôi chỉ đang nói error 404 không hề có from đó nếu muốn biết thêm về error 404 thì qua bên alphatale tìm hiểu thêm
Omni sans nó mất from rồi gần như nó là sans yếu nhất muốn biết thì đọc alphatale chapter để biết nhiều hơn
A lot of these AU 's should have higher power levels, just because some of their abilities are so overpowered.
Agreed 190%
yeah especially error404
since this guy just one shotted a unameable who is a high-outerversal being,and conected to a realm that far more powerful than astral mother's super computer, it was building like structure with each structure was a woodin cardinal,who was outerversal,that is the mainframe
@@AquaFieds N̴̠̖̉̿ͅe̛̲̪̥̝̙̺͎ͫͅo̢̖̪̦̙̫͌ͥ̔̎ ̾̆̓҉̠̻̻Ì̜̖͙̺̗̗͌͢ ̝͉͇͕̤̈́͞s̀̽͌͏͇̱ę̗͎̝̮̙͚͇̪̈e̯̹̝̟̮͌̎͠ ̰̞̘̂ͯ̎͋͠y̛͙̝̦̼͈̍ò̞̺̪̮̞̱̣̞͊ͩ̀u̡̻̘̿ ̮̬͇͖̺ͭ͐́e̯̠̽̕ͅv̵̭͇͙̲̺ͮ͂͑̒e̲̝̖͔̎ͤ͜r̷̙̬̯͔̟̱̟̊ͫ̏y̩̣̩̆̔̾͋́ͅw̩͔̰̻̻ͬ͗̇̀h̟̗͍̻͉̣͛́ͧ͒͠e͖̤̥̜̯͎͉̓͒ͧ͡r̢͇̺͙̞̟ͬ̊̊͌e̴͇͖̺͈̞̤̦̰ͫ ̭͎̙̱̤̖͐̾͜I̖̤̽ͣ̏̚͠ ̰͈̦̪̲̹̩̇͝g̨͖̤ͯͨŏ͖̥͓͍̰͔͓͛ͨ̆͜ͅ
More than 404 i think that bill should have a higher power level after all he able to controll time and the bill scythe is able to erase being as 404 or omni
@@AquaFieds the unnameable dint die, tho he got quite a beating it took a dam while for him to regen(some months i think), also the unnameable as said wasnt in his element so he was a little bit weakened by not being in his original realm.
0:51
Bro really thought underpants sans was weaker than normal sans 💀
Because he is
@@cosmicball1670 HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT
@@cosmicball1670bro underpants sans no diffs fiction
@@Swaggywashere very funny,i laughed.
Besides from the fact every sans from Error and above could collapse an entire universe, great vid.
Everything Sans: Face it Goku, there are infinite sanses being made, and you cannot beat them!
Think about super saiyan infinity
Still gets destroyed by everything and the real 4th breaker cause this 4th breaker is not as strong as the real deal
Xenoverse Goku: Sorry about this lil bro
CC goku: hello :)
Everything beats goku. So sans AU with that W!
actually, everythings sans is like a cheat, just like fusioning goku with audience or something like that, it's literally a machine, not a sans, also, it can be beat easily by avatars, so... if goku can't defeat everything sans then he is nothing to avatars that can easily kill everything sans
Well... everything is NOT a sans au it's a robot created to fix problems not even the most powerful can.
@@toxicity2665 truth but still, avatars are stronger than everything sans so >_>
@@toxicity2665 everything this Merge sans
@@fakeletobr730 ok infinity code beats goku
I was waiting for Everything Sans, but I wasn't expecting him to be the strongest
it's because everything sans is a machine with infinite power possess by king GodVerse
@@OmnigoditysansTheOmniGodofUltr it’s not king godverse it’d godverse plus godverse is stronger than King godverse.
@@OmnigoditysansTheOmniGodofUltr cringe
@@yeahnvmnvm1331 king godverse has the key to unlock everything sans whenever he needs him
@@Virapanda dosen’t matter lmao,omnipotent>1000× nigh-omnipotents neg dif.
Guys, he forgot the other forms of Goku from db legends etc. so goku actually wins in this fight, he just says that goku forms end there are Omni king goku! WRONG, His forms never ends which (and also sans universes) which means that their fight will go on forever! 😢😢😢😢😢
Goku Rebirthing Be Like:
💀💀💀💀
Endless fight
Yknow the sanses can delete/erase timelines right? Could brung back goku and erase the timeline, thus making him dead
@@Virapanda taking in count that were using fanon king error omin 404 virus sans, why can we just use goku super saiyan 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 with kaioken while having the god doctrine while using the mastered ui while being the grand priest, doesnt sound fair right?
Was this the big project you was talking about PLP? Well I am the same strength as Super Saiyan DBGT. Neat!
Actually bill sans far stronger then zeno
Very much
@@infectedtheretardshunter1987 well yeah.
As someone who respects both undertake and dragon ball fandom I have to say that sans would eventually win though it would be a very very hard battle for him but once again goku would be happy because he found a strong opponent. So win win
Respeto tu opinión pero en lo personal digo que goku gana
@@jairojoelrocagarcia3270nahhhh thats fake especially this vid its cap goku's best feat is universe xeno goku nigh omnipotent so he is low outverse while sans au error 404 best feat at base is high complex multiversal and his final form perfect 404 is outversal
Also dont count in drip goku or ill take out 4th breaker z sans who is stronger than shaggy 100% without even trying plus 4th breaker z sans is stronger than everything sans,everything isnt mixed with 4th breaker z sans so the last one was cap
Cool
The scaling isn’t at all canon, but I still enjoyed the video, nice vibe to it
Last breath beating ultra and sans with dt combined,yeah,kinda not canon,oh while typing this he said dream>>reaper lmao same with nightmare
Reaper Sans is death itself and can kill with a touch, he’s also immortal and scales to error sans if not above which would put him at 5D easily if not 6D, all he would need to do is touch Goku and he’s toast
5:25 aint no way N word on sans bro 💀
Its just negative sans not what you Think!
nicgatale🐧
Error 404: *sneezes*
Ultra instinct Goku:A- *disinigrates*
Error 404: wait wheres my opponent
Omg I love how the you music is intense
I love how goku keeps getting stronger but each one skeleton he loses
With rason
this is massive cap
@@Sjhrumble you is cap bro, you never wacht db?
@@mariadoportoalverne5648 stop comparing dbz to sans bro all they do is use gaster blaster bones and dodge and telekenesis or strings or heal or
@@SjhrumbleI’m not going to argue who is better, but I am going to broaden your knowledge only a tad. Nearly all of the sans have many unique qualities added by the people who’ve made them. Quite a few are pretty much loopholes to exploit powerful glitches. One such (not even a super strong one) can decide a person, and remake them into whatever they want
We all know the cameraman can beat imagination
Me: *exists*
Imagination would kill everything and everything except us humans (but you must be able to have a brain which can think beyond what humans can) the normal humans was be smoked well
If 100 trillion is his base and mui is multipliying his power lvl by 30 trillion that means he would actually have 3 octillion power plus the omni king goku damn he didnt even do the calculations
Same applies to sanses
U smart
Theres still others like Faker404 and even Infected sans
e404 claps goku both ways, but good vid
So here’s the problem here
Everything sans as I know has the power of unlimited possibilities
I don’t think goku moving fast can dodge infinity
Goku solos all sans, and these aus are overpowered, If sans was so strong he would be known as a boss in undertale .
@@QuandaleJunior445 and here we have a what is known as a "goku fan" or "dragon ball stan" yelling at the void like a baby for a comment that terribly hurts them.
instead why don't you give arguments before anything
@@QuandaleJunior445 so let me get this straight you just said that goku harnessing a tiny bit of the gods power is stronger than infinity itself?
Man don’t ya just love it when people start arguing over something that has a clearly obvious answer to it
@@Flabbysabber it’s funny more than anything
I like how you made Glitchtale sans, a sans that is weaker than Betty stronger than Fresh, a universe traveller capable to morph into others. (Ultra too)
Thing that i think strong than EVERYTHING
3.Everything
2.King Omniverse
1.Unlimited Descrution Sans/UDS.
EDIT 1:(GHOST VS SHAGGY ) WHO WIN?!
The Ghost one is also Form FNF is like all Original sound become one
king omniverse and UDS are sanses so they are into everything
Nope they created everything!sans to be the strongest sans and he is.
Everything sans is just one form of the King godverse
@@sansara9996 it not a form lmao
@@giabao19591 Well, this is not a form, I was a little sealed up, but everything sans itself is done due to the omni key, which can only be used by the king godverse
Finally, some bill sans reputation
Yknow, sans aus are mostly op cuz people design them to be op, like Sans would lose to goku no problem (dont come saying im wrong since in the TOP its proven that they fight at the speed of light), but people make AUs have op abilitys, like what cant everything do? hes EVERYTHING!
i hate undertale fandom..
He CANT do alot of stuff ok? Hes a machine, doesnt move as fast blah blah blah
@@Midtier_Fortune and? I hate db fandom
@@Virapanda cringe 😬😬😬
@@Midtier_Fortune same buddy,even tho i'm a undertale fan
Lets just appriciate that sans just beat goku.
What a world we live in
@@cameronballz6154 And What The Cap We Live In
Anything without sans is just one form of king godverse
King godverse>anime verse
toby fox: ...
@@valentinoralvi3554 haha actually almost
@@Yes-qw4tr haha not even close
@sean raizen BG king godverse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xeno goku
Just imagine Undertale Sans sees all of this shit/ btw, video is really cool!
Ryuji: there some astounding amount of god level power here it even defies that... I don’t know weather to be astounded or scared
Ya know there is someone much stronger than everything he is called... W I K I Sans
Canon though?
Is Wiki really stronger than everything???
@@404alpha2 idk man say that to king multiverse
bro wiki!sans is just sans alternate change my mind (if you do whats a alternate go watch mendela catalog)
gonna have to disagree here because well
He's bound to the wiki and isn't really much of a fighter
Wiki in his true form is just a shapeshifter and everything sans is just well
Beyond God Tiers
In reality wiki couldn't really do much against everything
King godverse: reality
Goku: universe
Goku > king godverse
=>Universe>reality
😎🏅👍
No u
obviously that's kinda Cap King godverse is literally much stronger one of strongest sans as that since he can't died or he can however he is way more stronger then goku then you think if king godverse use his Final strongest form is literally infinite and destroy goku as easy
Dude even error claps goku
@@Definitelynotcringeless dude even yamcha claps error
goku
Btw ona dbzs and undertale fan So this video is X2 fun for me thank alot for the videos
So according to him, ssj3 Goku's power is beyond infinite because he's above The Thought 💀
What does the thought scale to?
@@Void_Edits5204 It's stated his power is infinite, he is a Sans that absorbed all the human SOULS and became a being called The Thought, also called God Seraphim, he is more powerful than nearly every sans in the multiverse, and Error even scales above him, Error is complex multiversal despite what people say.
@@cheesefinder111 Ah,ok,thanks
But Goku in ssj3 claps Majin Buu who kills gods
@@qwert10k If by gods you mean the Kaioshin, yeah, they aren't that powerful compared to any of the Buu Saga characters. Seraphim in lore would clear the entire Buu Saga by himself, he has abilities to go beyond his narrative and see the code that creates his story. He made Gaster afraid, Gaster is a transdimensional being that is basically a living schrodingers paradox. Seraphim sans is stated multiple times to have infinite power, he has access to all the base soul types, which allows him to adapt to any situation, his only weakness is that he contains Chara who can screw with his mind.
Average Goku Fans:
Goku is totally gonna beat him- sans:blaster sounds*
Fr this man doesn’t even know the 95% of the sans that was in this vid
@@Micedit123he does he’s just wayyyyy overscaling the power of goku
@@AverageBloxxer-425 yes and he understimate a lot of sans in this vids like how reaper is above dream and nightmare just how?
@@Micedit123reaper is in fact above them being the embodiment of death and effectively immortal somewhat. So that is factual
Well this fight isn't really fair, mainly because sans au's are from the fandom so can't they just make a sans that can beat Goku or a sans similar to him?
Nice
Ah yes! Power levels, numbers that are absolutely meaningless!
True tho
Power lewels pro: all sanses
Last breath sans and error sans:no...
Obviously They Wouldnt Beat Goku In Power , But With Their Abilitys , Sure they can (I WONT COUNT ALL OF THE OVER POWERED HERE , SO DONT CRY TELLING ME TO FORGOT ANY OTHER SANS BECAUSE IM GIVING EXAMPLES)
If Goku Is Dumb Enough to Fight Someone Like Error , He will become Just Another Puppet.
Nightmare? His Ssj Forms might Be Able to Fight him Since in The Majin Buu Saga , We know Ssj Can Emit Light which Nightmare Gets Damaged.
Seraphim? We Know Seraphim Is The Same Powerful as Asriel God of Hyperdeath Its Proven Impossible to Damage him With Just Ssj Forms , Kaioken Blue or UI can Damage him But i cant be sure Correct me if im Wrong.
King? Literally Just a Game Over.
Ink? If He Knows What he is doing , Can give him a fight , If he is not then Ink Can win.
Infected? Mind games , Gokus Soul is just dead.
error404 will just crack its code and delete it
@@TenDustSans Yeah , Thats the point , No matter if Goku Has More Power , The Abilitys of the Sans is More than enough to finish him off
just like shadikal15 confirmed that if fresh!sans's parasite is trying to take over infected the parasite will goes insane by infected's mind and dies and if it was trying to take over 404 it will instantly crushed and destroyed by 404's power
goku can win if he was at High-outerversal beings like SOL himself since error404 power only affect him
@@AquaFieds Yeah but lets be Honest, Goku Might Not have any Chance with Any other Sans, I mean, King Can Just Game Over Him
Seraphim Sans possess 6 humans souls, therefore, he's stronger than Goku. Why? Because with six human souls in Undertale, if no one has more DT than you, then you're the god of the timeline and you can do anything.
14:32 goku down sans power rating
The ruler and strongest of multiverses...capable of reseting power..destroying universes with just one move..loses to a person that cant win to a god or the angel..
do you watch db
@@lonn.y yep and i know a lot of undertale aus.Goku cant beat zeno obviously and zeno id merely a fraction of the power of "king" Capable of doing everything...First research
Like his name even is "King" Ruler of multiverses Sans..is not 12 universes like zeno (yea im not counting 13 and 14) .King is the strongest out of billions of universes.His side hands are error and ink so..Please research you db fanboy
This shit is cap
@@killthefurrys u want to explain why?i surely know why it isnt
kid goku had a lot less than 500, by the time dbz started he had around 460 power level and that was as a teen
You mean to Power Level is 416?
OMG EPIC TALE 😊
Just a weird thought. How is a chess playing sans stronger than a sans that can literally shoot stars down at will, which is practically 100x bigger than goku and the actual sanses.
Because it's his game his chess game and that sans is apart of the board
It's like you playing against a stoopy person in chess cause goku doesn't even know how to play chess
Can’t last breath remove the ability to fight?
Last breath phase 3 no he can’t he just take a very LONG turn
And attacking him had no affect
@@godversesans5152 but he can erase attack like the ki of goku
@@notyourbusinessss that’s not cannon to lb sans
He can't, that ability is code-like but Goku is from an anime, not a game
no one can beat everything sans but shaggy and his creator
Bro sans is just A FUCKING DODGE CHARACTER- HE IS NOT EVEN KNOWN AS A BOSS IN THE GAME !
did you know everything got 4th wall sans power?
Everyone can beat everything sans since he's a controlled machine on his own he literally can't do anything
Cap, people can just create shaggytale or whatever and everything sans becomes stronger, also there probably already is one.
Good animation you should add gigatale
i think everything sans beats shaggy tbh because he has the power of every sans anyone having the omni key is unstoppable (yes the omni key can do ANYTHING (yes the omni key is Jevil lol))
dreams. ant>>>>>>>>>every sans au
Stop the cap 😂🤣🤣🤣
Only 4th breaker z sans defeat shaggy😂😂😂
@@stonks9571 and he is into everything sans so everything sans can too
@@giabao19591 🗿
I imagine some goku stans wont be very happy about this
But....... im agreed with this
@@r1chFoot read the other comments
I like how frisk can defeat some literally god form level goku if they can defeat sans in those timelines, literally determined kid can defeat a god.
Imagine that if alphatale Chara was not exist the frisk from alphatale would be ded from 404
Lol
Its because humans is playing it and Can g’et very skilled
cool now do every goku like xeno and anim gokus, vs literally every au sans ever created.
I love to see that Sans Aus wins
Same
Sans aus definitely wins, because everything sans can forced out more than 70% of Shaggy’s power , but Goku can't did it🤣
@@404alpha2 just basing on vids Goku can outclass every sans au in mere seconds and they can't put shaggy on 70% instead 0%
@@Our_broken_constellations Oh, I didn't mean to be rude,so sorry
11:09 every Sans from this point on is Outerversal due to being able to manipulate codes, categorified structures and complex mathematical models that transcend space and time, and this entire video is headcanon, the power levels are wrong, the math is incorrect and Virus 404 is not stronger than Error 404, hence the entire reason why Virus 404 cannot simply get rid of him. And 4th Breaker Z has absolute omnipotence. "Everything Sans" also isn't even a sans it's just a robot that looks like sans and it's fodder, it's supposed to be the Thought Robot version of sans like how DC has cosmic armor Superman but it's poorly written garbage like 99% of Godverse trash.
Virus 404 isn't from alpha tale and isn't weaker than Normal 404.
He just can't effect him with most of his moves.
Other than that he is far stronger than him, being stronger than mother virus.
Who is stronger than 404.
🤷♂️
@@Skrillmast3r Error 404 is stronger, he has better feats, better statements, and more transformations that put him at absurd levels. They are both Hyperversal in base but Virus404 in Godverse needed to combine himself with Jacob and Ten just to fight Butterfly Puppet Master 404 who's stated somewhere to rival Unnamables if I remember correctly. Not to mention both of them at base state are both 11 to 12D, and with COB 404 is already Outerversal in base, he destroys Virus 404.
@@Skrillmast3r By the way, I'm also scaling from Vs Battle Wiki's definition of Outerversal scaling since they don't believe it's possible to be truly above concepts of space and time, so they use Aleph sets to scale into Outerversal.
Everything sans has other phases so he was definitely the winner one of his phase reach infinity cuz he has to much power to be determined
What about godverse sans Omni 404 sans or any unbound beyond inf power
@@godversesans5152 godverse is trash and nobody cares about it
Everything sans only wins if he's being controlled since he's a controlled machine if not he loses not due to having less power but due to not doing anything