I know right! I cant believe they both agreed on something. Rashad, bring so much to Gil's Arena. He keeps the show balanced. Great cast, I hope we can continue to see them grow.
it's on the moderator to make clear though considering the panel is having Cognac and prob weed backstage before the show :D Mod' sucks, has no control and does not clear K-mart out with what he's asking. Gets messy as usual. I don't know why I watch that tbh :D
The key word here is- TRAJECTORY Y’all need a dictionary or something? Wemby cannot be in the goat debate but if he continues playing at this lvl/higher he’s definitely gonna be the Goat or at the table at least
If he Stays healthy at this rate. He has potential to become the goat defensive Player ever. And the best 2 way center ever. Hakeem with durant skillset is his Celling thus far. I'll say if everything works out, At Minimum, He'll be in that Tim Duncan, Hakeem, and Bird tier. Had All time peaks and careers. Basically Borderline Goat status
Idk how he's the goat unless he develops a game that a 7'5 person needs to be dominant. If he can't develop and become dominant in the paint like a top bigman usually is
He need a fucking power rack and a foot kicking his ass in the post. Why tf you 7'5 just to shoot 3s... there's guys that can't fuck with him that shoot better, curry dame, cp3 why tf he making it easier for himself to suck...
@@Undefeated32112you need him to with a comment like this. Don't just be throwing his name around and you not trying to guide and teach according to the word.
The audacity to call someone a lunchtime baller when you didn't have a single season your entire career averaging more points than they did as a rookie is astounding
@@shotarokaneda7525🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Diesel didn’t take it as seriously as he should have ! He even admitted to not being in shape until it mattered….relied on Mamba. But it worked out for both..shaq still demanded a double team which obviously left a talented player like Kobe to do his bidding and pick his spots.
Steph averaged less than five 3 point attempts a game his first 3 seasons, Wemby averaged over 5.5 his first season and is averaging over 9 this season. Steph didn't even average over 8 attempts a game until year 6.
It's either Kenyon really believed what he was saying or he already knew he f'ed up cause he didn't understand the topic right away so he just acted like he know what he was talking about 😂
Only injuries can stop Wemby from being a top 25 player all time. The numbers offensively and defensively that he will put up will be like nothing we've seen. If he wins multiple chips he will be a top 5 player. He's got GOAT potential. Last player with that Potential was Bron.
LeBron is not my goat, but I agree minutes to minutes should be the compare and age shouldn't matter, if he's in the league he's old enough. Otherwise he shouldn't be playing
If Wemby was American they'd all be agreeing with Rashad on this. They hold him being French against him like he isn't already performing better than all of them in their primes.
Hard to say cause there’s only really two goats and that’s Jordan and Bron..It’s gonna be hard for Wemby to pass up Kareem and Magic let alone Bron and Jordan
@@sooo9821I’m not mad at that cause I definitely think he should be mentioned more being tho he’s technically won more than everybody other than Bill..
@@shinsukecorbin425all he needs is 4 Championships. He doesn’t need 6 dunce Bron only has 4 and people put him in the goat conversation. If it keeps getting diluted he might only need 3 chips. Joker is already starting to get some recognition on that and he only has 1 chip
@@sooo9821that’s not really saying anything tho you can kinda say that about anyone. It’s all about if they live up to it. Tho I personally think Wemby is arguably the greatest talent besides Luka
@@thekingstaytheking75 your opinion doesn’t matter since the mainstream media controls how you think💯🫵🏿😭saying a guy who mimicked the best to ever do it and fail 1 championship behind is 8,9 is crazy
@@Dipset415at best he’s 7th all time lol he’s not in the goat debate. Jordan fans just use Kobe to keep LeBron further away from Jordan but nobody actually thinks Kobe is the goat. It’s Bron and Jordan 1a 1b
@@ballhoggsportsentertainmen2111 lol you probably the only person i seen say that. bron is not 1a or 1b to me its all subjective though the goat is opinion based
Wemby definitely can be in the goat debate but he has to win at least 3 rings to really make it a conversation..I’m pretty sure his stats will stay around the same ballpark so all he needs is the rings
@@loyalty.is.everything2615THANK YOU ive been sayin this for years. People act like Tim duncan didnt win his 1st championship in a shortened season with a Top75 player on his team already. But hes the goat PF😂
@@mical2greathe doesn’t control where he got drafted and he won 4 more after that so clearly he is or you going to say he had Tony Parker and Manu well don’t be mad his organization know how to draft
I almost cut this off 30 seconds in.. Nobody has ever been worthy of GOAT talk off potential alone. Hoping young fella has a long career but anything can happen. As gifted as he is, he has plenty of room for development.
School is very important. Nobody said Wemby is the goat, based off his play and where he is today his trajectory says he will be up there with the greats based on logic and simple math
im with Gil and Rashad lol These dudes don't understand what "based on trajectory" means at all and its wild. If you take the current trajectory that he's on, he's not going to be in the conversation for GOAT, because he will claim it for himself. He has improved from his first season and is only getting better. when he hits his prime, if he has the right team around him, he'll win without a doubt. I could see Luka eventually teaming up with him if it doesn't workout in Dallas. He makes the Spurs an attractive franchise to play for again.
It’s still insane second year Bron put up 27,7,7 at 19. 42-40 record. 2 years removed from HS. Playing 40+ minutes a night in the sluggish era of the early to mid 2000s.
And wemby is doing something similarly impressive imo beating out Steph in 3’s Hakeem and bron those stats are crazy. He’s beating them out in the first 100 games each at the own game. RIGHT NOW, HE IS PLAYING WELL ENOUGH, THAT IF IF IF HE KEEPS IT UP he’s on the right trajectory the right path to be up there with those greats. Not is he the goat? Fuck no he ain’t the goat. Fuck no is he close. But is he on the right path? Yea. Yall not gettin the question
Not even 2 seasons and more goat debates , until a player wins a fmvp, mvp and ring leave them out of debates. It’s already enough of it without guys who can’t even be actually compared
That's not cold 😂 it was disrespectful ! You don't call black men boys you want to praise the white mans slave (MJ) go ahead but stop being silly about it 😂 smh
Wilt Chamberlain scored 2,707 points his rookie year in 75 games(we know this one) But runner up with 2,495 points in his rookie season is Walt Bellamy he was rookie of the year in 61 4x all star yet nun of you mfs knew who the fudge he was😂 hence why Kenyon is sooo annoyed by the question of is Wemby in the Goat debate based off the trajectory off his first 100 games😂 😂
I like setting more reasonable expectations on the Frenchman. Is he going to be better than Hakeem? Olajuwon’s best season was 27.8ppg 3.4bpg 11rpg 1.8spg 3apg. 1.8 spg for a center is so insane 😂 Wemby this year: 25ppg 4bpg 10.8 rpg 3.8apg 1spg I just don’t think Victor is going to play enough games to go well over the 30k mark…
@@Dipset415 that’s not what I’m saying! REAL Kobe fans know he was him fr but most people HATED Kobe but then he died and now everybody wanna inflate what he actually did. Real Kobe fans don’t gotta cap about his career cus his career was already amazing
@ when you say people hated him you mean karens 💯and espn puppets. I don’t know any basketball fans that hated him and he was literally loved globally especially in china and Spain Italy. If you wanna say for that brief moment when he told on Shaq yup he was hated💯but when he started pulling up from 30 hitting fadeaway threes and embarrassing ninjas on the court he became must see tv and the main draw in the league. The league promoted LeBron more since he got that 90 million from Nike before entering the league and they were showing his high school games on ESPN. But make no mistake kobe was that guy along with tmac before injuries
Thing is this wemby really needs solid 15-16 years In the league atleast 4 Chips , Few MVPs , Dpoy , But in those MVP dpoy seasons he has to be dominant the best player undipsutedly . Over time we'll see
I don't think he needs 15yrs. He could do it in 10. Maybe less depending on how dominant he ends up being. He's already a lock for DPOY for the next several years. He'll def get multiple MVPs so that's already multiple years with MVP and DPOY. Then he just needs rings and FMVP which I see him doing.
@TKOTDtvMusic not less Be frl You need longevity and have to be able to sustain That as well not saying he has to be Bron do 20 odd years but atleast 14 max , Ofc he'll win Dpoy but still he has a way to go well see
@@rata_laadat less than 10 may be pushing it but I def feel it's possible to do it in 10 if he completely dominates everything in that time frame. We'll see what happens tho. He might not even end up being in the GOAT debate by the end of his career.
The dude is 7’3 shooting from where Curry does and making them. I watched him versus the Nuggets the other night. On Christmas he was ridiculous too against NY. His trajectory is absolutely GOAT. Now if he becomes that remains to be seen. I personally believe he’ll end up with at least 3 rings in his career. He just needs another star to grow with.
They just saying trajectory based on 100 games they aren't saying he is in GOAT talks yet its just a comparison of all GOATS first 100 games and Wemby he's not in GOAT category yet
Early on wade Melo kobe tmac Vince in his prime KD curry harden Kyrie kawhi Paul George Damian lillard CP3 right now jokic Giannis shai Ant Ja Fox Anthony Davis Wemby Luka Tatum Mitchell 🥱
It's the same thing i say when people start saying "oh he could beat LeBrons scoring record" you have to give it TIME. Wemby is crazy. But what happens after that first injury? What happens when coaches adjust during the offs? People were so ready to give ant the crown, or even Butler 2 years ago and here we are
He was limited in minutes and still scored more points in the first 100 games than LeBron. What’s the argument. He’s on pace to be one of the greatest. That’s all they are saying
Imagine what his stats would have been if they didn’t restrict his minutes in most of those 100 games. His impact per minute played is on a trajectory to make him a part of the goat conversation. If he can maintain that level of play over 12-15 years… he will be in a league of his own
After LeBron's 1st game I felt like all he had to do was grow as a player stay and healthy enough and he would be in the 🐐 conversation. It's a fact he is in that conversation because many have been talking about it. I say all of that 😂😂 to say I feel exactly the same way about Wemby....they just so rare it's crazy. Players like MJ, Kobe, Magic, Kareem...etc.
After lebrons first 3 years Wade was better and Melo was the better scorer💯wades peak is better than lebron since folks respected wades mid range game while daring lebron to shoot
gill and rashad being the voice of reason is crazy...
Kmart and shaggy haters.period
underrated comment...
west coast dudes dont know how to think properly when kobe gets brought up into discussions.
I know right! I cant believe they both agreed on something. Rashad, bring so much to Gil's Arena. He keeps the show balanced. Great cast, I hope we can continue to see them grow.
that's an excellent cat you got on that avatar there
It's clear that the word "trajectory" isn't being understood by most of the panel!!
it's on the moderator to make clear though considering the panel is having Cognac and prob weed backstage before the show :D Mod' sucks, has no control and does not clear K-mart out with what he's asking. Gets messy as usual. I don't know why I watch that tbh :D
@@romainviry3185 It's not on him that they don't know the definition of trajectory 😂
Bro WIMBY is a STAR STUFFER! He has NO ELEMENTS that equal Goat Status FOH!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@fredricksmith8760goofy, if you’re hooping you’re gonna have high stats, tf are you talkin about?
They don’t know what trajectory mean 😂😂😂😂
Came to the comments to literally say this - they're not having the same argument lol
K mart doesn’t
Duh you could listen for 5 minutes and know they all slow fr. Lexi the only one who all the way there mentally
What u expect from people watching LeBron still work when they on a couch trynna make a living 😂
Bc they’re drunk basketball players. It’s the best part of the show tbh
K-mart is the Charles Oakley of the Gil's Arena podcast 😂😂😂
He Oscar the grouch
Anthony Mason
Yeap 😂
Mfs acting like they never heard of “trajectory” or a “hypothetical question”
Nick and Kenyon probably didn't 😂😂😂😂
The key word here is- TRAJECTORY
Y’all need a dictionary or something?
Wemby cannot be in the goat debate but if he continues playing at this lvl/higher he’s definitely gonna be the Goat or at the table at least
He can never be in the goat there's no goat debate it's only Michael Jordan
@@marquisgorham6207it’s “goat debate” where there’s multiple players argued for (obviously mj is THE goat)
Despite accomplishments and longevity he’s the best I’ve ever seen with my eyes. On the eye test he is already the goat.
@@johnigercic6292are you 5?
Whats the cut off for the “goat debate”? Is it like top 3? Top 4?? Top 2?
0:57 dawg said more Steph’s than 3 Curry 😂
😂
He corrected himself, but it was way too late. 😂
💀💀💀
That laugh @0:59 😂
@@ilcapitano010evil ahh cackle😂😂
11:04 we’re talking about the first 100 games ! We can tell who skipped classes in middle school (Kenyon and nick)
Nick is a Moron!!! 😂😂😂😂
Yo! Put that on T-shirt! "More Stephs than Three Curry" 😂
3 Curry sound legit tho
This phrase is catchy tho
Thurry 😂😂
He'll be better than everyone in that "arena" 😂
I wouldn’t say he is better than peak Agent Zero at this current moment
For sure!
Yes he is @oozey7003
Faxxs
@oozey7003he is top 5 player this year...just this year and best defensive player in the league by a margin
If he Stays healthy at this rate. He has potential to become the goat defensive Player ever. And the best 2 way center ever. Hakeem with durant skillset is his Celling thus far. I'll say if everything works out, At Minimum, He'll be in that Tim Duncan, Hakeem, and Bird tier. Had All time peaks and careers. Basically Borderline Goat status
the equation is simple : if he remains healthy, there s nothing stopping him from ascending
at this trajectory, absolutely . given he plays 15+ seasons & *stays healthy .*
Idk how he's the goat unless he develops a game that a 7'5 person needs to be dominant. If he can't develop and become dominant in the paint like a top bigman usually is
If he does it 15 +yrs...lebron who??????
He's High All- NBA level at 20 his game is already dominant on both ends. @@michaelkoelsch146
@@michaelkoelsch146why would he need to develop just for him to dominate? He’s dominating NOW and he doesn’t play the way you say
Google the definition of trajectory@@michaelkoelsch146
Health, rings and longevity, Wemby needs
Wemby is not ahead of manute bol nor Ralph Sampson.
Rs Yoda
He need Jesus. Like you
He need a fucking power rack and a foot kicking his ass in the post. Why tf you 7'5 just to shoot 3s... there's guys that can't fuck with him that shoot better, curry dame, cp3 why tf he making it easier for himself to suck...
@@Undefeated32112you need him to with a comment like this. Don't just be throwing his name around and you not trying to guide and teach according to the word.
The audacity to call someone a lunchtime baller when you didn't have a single season your entire career averaging more points than they did as a rookie is astounding
Nick Young consistently a CLOWN!
People in the comments call nba players trash all the time so what’s the difference
@@kaelinjefferies9267 in theory given that he was an NBA player. He should know better
@@Thatguywill84have you watched shaq and them😂😂😂
@@shotarokaneda7525🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Diesel didn’t take it as seriously as he should have ! He even admitted to not being in shape until it mattered….relied on Mamba.
But it worked out for both..shaq still demanded a double team which obviously left a talented player like Kobe to do his bidding and pick his spots.
Kenyon be dramatic as shit, never noticed it til lately
Man it always been like that he be bringing the energy down on the show I feel I’m not hating
He is horrible for TV. Dude doesn't seem to understand he is on a show and just seems like he doesn't want to be there.
@@jhaee8412right. Like if you don't wanna be there,leave MF 😂
@@terrywilson588 Him and Nick Young are haters. Especially Nick Young
Gil wrapped them up on this one 😂😂😂. All of'em in the feelings
Kenyon is the kind of old dude stuck in his prime and doesn't want to see the world progress because it diminishes his value.
This is cap just cause he ain't glazing victor your upset about it
No lies told
@@marcusgarvey630not cap actually
The question should of been reworded differently.
@@marcusgarvey630stats is facts my brotha
Wtf do Kenyon be talking about bro
lol nothin. Just always trying to sound tough or like he some OG
Shad will knock dude ass out
Nothing much really, just wants fights lol
All day all the time.
Facts he old and miserable every episode take that energy somewhere else..move around
Jesus Christ do yall know what trajectory mean?
Right and most of them went to college. I know they’ve heard of projection.
@@thatnuccadp They went to college to learn basketball.
Damn he got more Stephs than 3-Curry???? Thats nasty work! 😯😂
Steph first 100games were on & off plus he had to share to shine with Monta it’s not the same as Wemby having a whole time to himself
My comment went North of yo head 🤦🏽♂️@@shinsukecorbin425
I mean at this point when you look up 3 you see curry I don’t blame him😂😂
Steph averaged less than five 3 point attempts a game his first 3 seasons, Wemby averaged over 5.5 his first season and is averaging over 9 this season.
Steph didn't even average over 8 attempts a game until year 6.
😂😂….what’s really goin on here …
It's either Kenyon really believed what he was saying or he already knew he f'ed up cause he didn't understand the topic right away so he just acted like he know what he was talking about 😂
Yeah he didn’t understand because he stopped talking half way through the topic. He knew he was wrong
😂😂😂😂
Only injuries can stop Wemby from being a top 25 player all time. The numbers offensively and defensively that he will put up will be like nothing we've seen.
If he wins multiple chips he will be a top 5 player. He's got GOAT potential. Last player with that Potential was Bron.
Everyone acts like these guys have bad games, and real defense doesn't exist.
930 less minutes. That 19+ less full games worth of minutes. Minute for minutes vs lebron, wemby 2700 pts vs lebrons 2100
LeBron is not my goat, but I agree minutes to minutes should be the compare and age shouldn't matter, if he's in the league he's old enough. Otherwise he shouldn't be playing
Why Kmart always talking aggressive to the guys 🤦♂️
Because those dudes are soft no diddy
Because he isn't a pussy.
U sound soft bruh
You never been around men?
@@WalkingWallet🤣🤣🤣
Letssssss fuckin go Gilllll....my man used logic and math this time.
Trajectory yall ..... look it up
Nick b having me dead
According to Jokic fanboys they say Gil hate all euros. Lol
"We did not have this show in 2002"😂😂😂
He said 2003 but…
Josiah should be protected 💯🤣
You can tell these old heads just hate that a young superstar might challenge the GOAT debate. They are trying so hard to play Wemby down
They just don't like cheery picked stats, like how many 3's did they shoot on a Thursday wemby is the goat
Nick is a lunchtime hooper
Kmart and Jennings too
Nick is a buffoon , the one guy on the show they should swap out with someone else . He’s AWFUL
@@tpthecalm9438nah. Kmart and Jennings were good players
If Wemby was American they'd all be agreeing with Rashad on this. They hold him being French against him like he isn't already performing better than all of them in their primes.
if he was white, he wouldn't have been discussed at all, at least he got that going for him.
Disagree on Gil.
Wemby has more GOAT potential than any player ever.
Incorrect that would be Jared Dudley
Fax
nobody from cupcake era cant be goat 😃
@@ziginaigra oh you want them to tackle and fight 😂
😂😂😂 no fuckin way
That Iron man mask raw AF ngl
He is better than all of them at this age.
Except bron
@@CjBlkbetter then Bron too. How is he not better? Wemby has more points, rebounds, blocks and made more 3s than Bron at this stage.
@@JG-mg3ifnah bro
If Wemby has a chance to dethrone Mike Im all for it ngl
@@JG-mg3if Different era. lebron was much better and more impactful.
"Who his size play long?" Hakeem. Ewing. The Admiral. Kareem. Wilt. Bill Russell. Dirk. Dikembe. Come on, man. Haaaaaaatin'.
I'm with mccants frfr.
1:09 more Steph’s than 3 curry is wild 😂
but that is bad if u are center ...few day ago spurs lost to denver just because wemby missed 10 3s🤡
That makes sense to me.. might as well start calling 3’s “Steph’s” and calling Steph 3 😂😂😂
System error lol
(Dabronxsta is a wild name
@ You never heard of it 1 of 1
As a LeBron fan, I’ve already accepted this. Wemby will be in the goat debate…
Hard to say cause there’s only really two goats and that’s Jordan and Bron..It’s gonna be hard for Wemby to pass up Kareem and Magic let alone Bron and Jordan
@@shinsukecorbin425kareem should be in the debate
@@sooo9821I’m not mad at that cause I definitely think he should be mentioned more being tho he’s technically won more than everybody other than Bill..
@solo9821 bird too
@@shinsukecorbin425all he needs is 4 Championships. He doesn’t need 6 dunce Bron only has 4 and people put him in the goat conversation. If it keeps getting diluted he might only need 3 chips. Joker is already starting to get some recognition on that and he only has 1 chip
I’m with Gil on this one because they not understanding the question 😂 they hear goat and start trippin
Goat debate shouldn’t be had with any player till they’ve completed 5 seasons of great basketball
You can already say he's the greatest talent all time
Till they're retired imo🤷🏿♂️
@@sooo9821that’s not really saying anything tho you can kinda say that about anyone. It’s all about if they live up to it. Tho I personally think Wemby is arguably the greatest talent besides Luka
Naw gotta at least have an MVP and a ring
@@sooo9821Shaq is a better talent than Wendy lol
I like how Gil stood on his answer cause he always talking bout age and trajectory 😂
The fact that he is in all of those categories at the same time
Notice Kenyon never acts like angry mad man whenever Lexi is there …his personality change 😂 for the work
Him and Shad just went crazy a couple days ago while Lexi was there
I’ve seen him pop off when Lexi there .
First time I saw Gil saying something making sense and now Macant make sense than anyone else that debate
Kobe in the Goat conversation LOL 🤭
Why you suprised he’s the best player since Michael Jordan and some people said he’s more skilled mikes resume just different
@@Dipset415 he is not in the goat debate and top 8 or 9 IMO
@@thekingstaytheking75 your opinion doesn’t matter since the mainstream media controls how you think💯🫵🏿😭saying a guy who mimicked the best to ever do it and fail 1 championship behind is 8,9 is crazy
@@Dipset415at best he’s 7th all time lol he’s not in the goat debate. Jordan fans just use Kobe to keep LeBron further away from Jordan but nobody actually thinks Kobe is the goat. It’s Bron and Jordan 1a 1b
@@ballhoggsportsentertainmen2111 lol you probably the only person i seen say that. bron is not 1a or 1b to me its all subjective though the goat is opinion based
Wemby definitely can be in the goat debate but he has to win at least 3 rings to really make it a conversation..I’m pretty sure his stats will stay around the same ballpark so all he needs is the rings
I say 4
@@TrentReynolds-o7lnot mad at that at all I say 3-4 is what’s needed
@@shinsukecorbin425 you think the joker can be the best center ever ..? Thats if he continues to dominate.?
@@TrentReynolds-o7l best center ever nah not a chance..No way he catches Kareem or Russell
No big man can carry a team to a ring. A big man can never be a goat.
Shoutout to the background crew. Stuff be funny asl and then they make it funnier 😂
Kenyon a downer,
He just mad he doesn’t know what trajectory means 😂
As long as they dont put Edwards in that convo
That’s how good he was he averaged 12 points a game
Notice the respect Martin has when they talk about Kobe he don’t say nothing at all mad respect bro
Can I get my question answered 😂😂😂
This is how my uncle's conversations on who has better life every family gatherings
😂😂😂
I was thinking the other day. Wemby is legit matching Timmy rn, pound-for-pound. Great to see as a Spurs' fan.
Timmy had a ring with a perineal all star with David Robinson not the same
@@loyalty.is.everything2615 look at their stats, side-by-side. All I'm going to say. Look at their PER's, too.
@@loyalty.is.everything2615THANK YOU ive been sayin this for years. People act like Tim duncan didnt win his 1st championship in a shortened season with a Top75 player on his team already. But hes the goat PF😂
@@mical2greathe doesn’t control where he got drafted and he won 4 more after that so clearly he is or you going to say he had Tony Parker and Manu well don’t be mad his organization know how to draft
@@mical2greathe won 4 more so yeah he a goated pf
I almost cut this off 30 seconds in.. Nobody has ever been worthy of GOAT talk off potential alone. Hoping young fella has a long career but anything can happen. As gifted as he is, he has plenty of room for development.
That’s the point 😂 he has so much room for development and look at what he’s doing already. The conversation is if he has goat potential
Michael Jordan after his 3rd year💯
School is very important. Nobody said Wemby is the goat, based off his play and where he is today his trajectory says he will be up there with the greats based on logic and simple math
I’m lowkey scared because I know Og will go crazy one day
Yea Martin gonna snap 🤣
@ Rs, and that’s finna be the end of the podcast/show
As a Spurs fan I'm amazed how Wemby just getting talk about to be potentially the GOAT in his second yr
I expected a better convo question out of these guys than "Wemby will be in the goat debate facts or cap" ..stupid fkn question I agree with KM
They have to dumb it down.
Kmart made zero sense in this one
im with Gil and Rashad lol These dudes don't understand what "based on trajectory" means at all and its wild. If you take the current trajectory that he's on, he's not going to be in the conversation for GOAT, because he will claim it for himself. He has improved from his first season and is only getting better. when he hits his prime, if he has the right team around him, he'll win without a doubt. I could see Luka eventually teaming up with him if it doesn't workout in Dallas. He makes the Spurs an attractive franchise to play for again.
8:18 Gil was legit wincing at what K Mart 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agreed Wemby is already the greatest player of all time
It’s still insane second year Bron put up 27,7,7 at 19. 42-40 record. 2 years removed from HS. Playing 40+ minutes a night in the sluggish era of the early to mid 2000s.
He was 20 and he was incredible
🐐🐐🐐
Him and Mike really 1 of 1 will never see another fr and people don’t understand that
And wemby is doing something similarly impressive imo beating out Steph in 3’s Hakeem and bron those stats are crazy. He’s beating them out in the first 100 games each at the own game. RIGHT NOW, HE IS PLAYING WELL ENOUGH, THAT IF IF IF HE KEEPS IT UP he’s on the right trajectory the right path to be up there with those greats.
Not is he the goat? Fuck no he ain’t the goat. Fuck no is he close. But is he on the right path? Yea.
Yall not gettin the question
@@Raythemenace-r3kKobe Bryant is better than LeBron and don't ever disrespect allen Iverson literally changed the game
These guys never can agree together , makes it fun !
Not even 2 seasons and more goat debates , until a player wins a fmvp, mvp and ring leave them out of debates. It’s already enough of it without guys who can’t even be actually compared
That wasn’t the question.. it was about trajectory based on the first 100 games
@JayAli-u3x he still won't get it... thats how they are
If Wemby add the sky hook to his game lawd have mercy 😮😮
Mf would literally be a cheat code you'll have to double him full court 😂
@tregainsfitness4928 smh imagine if get in the weight room
The crazy thing is they minute restrict wemby so imagine if he actually played those regular minutes like everyone else
5:40 ...... Yea he tripping! 😂😂🤣🤣
He tripping bad 😂
Say mccants could've destroyed him but he played it like a real potna yeaaa he tripping say it again slow 😂
MJ cold “ watch out for that lil laker boy “ cold statement mane !!!!
That's not cold 😂 it was disrespectful ! You don't call black men boys you want to praise the white mans slave (MJ) go ahead but stop being silly about it 😂 smh
More "stephs than 3 curry", we need sequel to CTE based on NBA
Kenyon and Rashad having they own conversation on the side was funny 😂😂
the question really is... would jordan, lebron and kobes be talked about as GOAT in their 1st 100 games? The GOAT talk came later... after chips
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Wembyamba is already the goat lol he is about to end the LeBron debate lol
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Wemby is the best 2nd year player ever. And if he continues, he could easily be the goat. Hell jus need the rings and the accolades to go with it
Wilt Chamberlain scored 2,707 points his rookie year in 75 games(we know this one)
But runner up with 2,495 points in his rookie season is Walt Bellamy he was rookie of the year in 61 4x all star yet nun of you mfs knew who the fudge he was😂 hence why Kenyon is sooo annoyed by the question of is Wemby in the Goat debate based off the trajectory off his first 100 games😂 😂
Era matters sorry brodie💯😭
Wilt is still considered by some people as the goat and he was at the moment of retirement
@@Dipset415 i feel like it does too but they are not considering that in their discussion given they're comparing players from diffrent era's
I like setting more reasonable expectations on the Frenchman. Is he going to be better than Hakeem? Olajuwon’s best season was 27.8ppg 3.4bpg 11rpg 1.8spg 3apg.
1.8 spg for a center is so insane 😂
Wemby this year: 25ppg 4bpg 10.8 rpg 3.8apg 1spg
I just don’t think Victor is going to play enough games to go well over the 30k mark…
D Robinson had more points rebs and blocks than wemby in 100 games
D rob underrated all time for sure.
There you go
Wasn’t on a minute restriction though
When I first read this, for some reason Duncan Robinson jumped off my screen 😂😂
@@kye-o1kme too 😂. I was thinking when was Duncan blocking shots like that
Finally Gil understanding the question - its just prognostication and fun prediction shit. they're taking it so seriously
gil is not a kobe fan man🤣 he discredit bean every chance he gets
Not really. A real Kobe fan has to keep it realistic so Kobe doesn’t become this mythical creature like these dudes make it seem.
@@jaaymurray3608bra he was like that when he was alive don’t let the lebron lead media fool you💯
@@Dipset415 that’s not what I’m saying! REAL Kobe fans know he was him fr but most people HATED Kobe but then he died and now everybody wanna inflate what he actually did. Real Kobe fans don’t gotta cap about his career cus his career was already amazing
@ when you say people hated him you mean karens 💯and espn puppets. I don’t know any basketball fans that hated him and he was literally loved globally especially in china and Spain Italy. If you wanna say for that brief moment when he told on Shaq yup he was hated💯but when he started pulling up from 30 hitting fadeaway threes and embarrassing ninjas on the court he became must see tv and the main draw in the league. The league promoted LeBron more since he got that 90 million from Nike before entering the league and they were showing his high school games on ESPN. But make no mistake kobe was that guy along with tmac before injuries
@@jaaymurray3608 keep it realistic by saying kobe was a lunch time hooper?🤣
Kenyon reacting to Rashad putting on the ironman helmet is fucking gold 😂😂😂😂😂
Thing is this wemby really needs solid 15-16 years In the league atleast 4 Chips , Few MVPs , Dpoy , But in those MVP dpoy seasons he has to be dominant the best player undipsutedly . Over time we'll see
The LeBron led media put LeBron over kobe in 2009 when LeBron had no rings no jumper and was a terrible on ball defender
I don't think he needs 15yrs. He could do it in 10. Maybe less depending on how dominant he ends up being. He's already a lock for DPOY for the next several years. He'll def get multiple MVPs so that's already multiple years with MVP and DPOY. Then he just needs rings and FMVP which I see him doing.
@Dipset415 genuine question what does this have to do with wemby ? 🤔
@TKOTDtvMusic not less Be frl You need longevity and have to be able to sustain That as well not saying he has to be Bron do 20 odd years but atleast 14 max , Ofc he'll win Dpoy but still he has a way to go well see
@@rata_laadat less than 10 may be pushing it but I def feel it's possible to do it in 10 if he completely dominates everything in that time frame. We'll see what happens tho. He might not even end up being in the GOAT debate by the end of his career.
The dude is 7’3 shooting from where Curry does and making them. I watched him versus the Nuggets the other night. On Christmas he was ridiculous too against NY. His trajectory is absolutely GOAT. Now if he becomes that remains to be seen. I personally believe he’ll end up with at least 3 rings in his career. He just needs another star to grow with.
Gil grinds my gears with that age based argument.
I’m with Keyon on this topic. Everybody talking, but K Martin sticking to the facts. It’s not that much to put him in the Goat debate.
Wemby with Shaq attitude he will be the goat
Not the IRON MAN MASK 🤣🤣🤣
What a stupid question, the guy is basically still a rookie, let him do some shit first before we talk about this.
It’s a hypothetical question just for fun😂 it’s not that seriousness
They just saying trajectory based on 100 games they aren't saying he is in GOAT talks yet its just a comparison of all GOATS first 100 games and Wemby he's not in GOAT category yet
You Guys have a Great Show 💯
It’s Micheal Jordan and there’s everybody else fighting for the 2nd best player ever.
Mccants has been on a roll of actually good takes lately
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 dude ain't got that killa in him
You didn't watch the Olympics
Do some research, kid
@BaithNa how tf u gonna tell me what I didn't watch, they lost didn't they lol
Watch a game lil bro
@Insane_king713 watch more basketball than you lil sis, just say u disagree and keep it moving.
@@thefreakyrobber0man ain’t nobody beating that USA team Dwg.
Gil and mccants is the only ppl who understood the question
Nobody better than Bron idc who y’all throw in that never ending debate 💀
No body is better than Bron at teaming up with allstars, and flopping and losing in the finals, I agree with your young dumb ass all day
Fact
Early on wade Melo kobe tmac Vince in his prime KD curry harden Kyrie kawhi Paul George Damian lillard CP3 right now jokic Giannis shai Ant Ja Fox Anthony Davis Wemby Luka Tatum Mitchell 🥱
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Melo early in his career and Wade were right there
The fact that Wemby has been in the league before them but still won’t pass Jordan and Kareem in scoring 😂
His 1st 100 games not even better than David Robinson's
Robinson was 24 at the time and military trained 💯😭
People forget he was on a minutes restriction too. So those number are even more impressive.
It's the same thing i say when people start saying "oh he could beat LeBrons scoring record" you have to give it TIME. Wemby is crazy. But what happens after that first injury? What happens when coaches adjust during the offs? People were so ready to give ant the crown, or even Butler 2 years ago and here we are
This podcast is classic you guys are a bunch of loco's I love you amazing take on everything
@13:39 Nick Young "I DIDN'T SAY HE'S A GOAT"!!! 😂
He was limited in minutes and still scored more points in the first 100 games than LeBron. What’s the argument. He’s on pace to be one of the greatest. That’s all they are saying
Imagine what his stats would have been if they didn’t restrict his minutes in most of those 100 games. His impact per minute played is on a trajectory to make him a part of the goat conversation. If he can maintain that level of play over 12-15 years… he will be in a league of his own
If “if” was a fifth, we’d all be drunk😂😂😂
Facts...I said he will win one of every award in the league!
After LeBron's 1st game I felt like all he had to do was grow as a player stay and healthy enough and he would be in the 🐐 conversation. It's a fact he is in that conversation because many have been talking about it. I say all of that 😂😂 to say I feel exactly the same way about Wemby....they just so rare it's crazy. Players like MJ, Kobe, Magic, Kareem...etc.
After lebrons first 3 years Wade was better and Melo was the better scorer💯wades peak is better than lebron since folks respected wades mid range game while daring lebron to shoot