Yeah you are absolutely right there😊, I was initially thinking about putting a small 'note' on screen about this. While recording I first wanted to call it Lexan (often called Lexaan in Dutch), but that's also a brand🤣. However for my English pronunciation I figured it would be easier to say Plexiglas instead of polystyrene every-time. But you are absolutely 100% right 😊👍 And thank you for your compliment of course😊
@@michaelkeithduncan Thanks ☺️ Hope the video will be useful for others or at least inspire some to build their own breadboard layout to improve their workflow ☺️
I stopped breadboarding years ago. It's so much easier now to simulate your design with SPICE (analog) or Verilog (digital), and have a PC board fabbed. I dont have any circuit bugs with the PCB, because those were found and fixed via simulation; only an occasional solder joint issue with surface-mount devices. Diagnostic software is fairly easy to code-up, and that narrows-down the occasional bad solder joint so I rarely need a scope or logic analyzer for debugging.
Love that the simulation only approach for you works that satisfying, however for many it's just not the way to go, and for many the physical hardware experimenting and such is also a large part of the hobby 😊 There are many circuits which I just drew the PCB in either Eagle or KiCad and not once have I tested it on a breadboard or simulation for that matter, without any issues. But I (just like many) still love to test stuff physically, experiment with projects and components and such. I personally do see the value of simulations, but for me a simulation is still that: A simulation, it's not a real world test, with influences and imperfections from the real world environment, components etc. Sure that can also be simulated to an extend, but I guess that you understand where I'm coming from haha 😊 Btw: You have some nice Nixie tube projects/setups on your page, nice monitoring systems on some of them also 😊👍
Thanks, truly Appreciated 😊. I totally love the Breadboard I/O, and despite it's (for me though) an "ancient design" I made almost a decade ago, it's these days still my main go-to when using my breadboards 😊 Have to admit though, that if you work a lot (or at least frequently) with LCD's or OLED's etc on your breadboard that you should really try the '40 degree add-on'. I thought it would be handy but honestly:🤯. That last minute 'add-on experiment' was the best idea I had for this entire breadboard to be honest 🤣
Very cool. Can it do ±15 AC, for sound work? That would be MY ideal breadboard and am now wondering why I didn't build one. Thanks for the inspiration and as I said, great project! Quick questions, where did you get the breadboards with supply rail separate?
Unfortunately my XNL Breadboard I/O won't accept AC, this due to a shared ground between the 5V, 3.3V and DC Jack (needed for most logic/communication circuits, but not ideal for certain audio circuits). The Voltage/current display (at least the one I'm using) isn't suitable for AC either. I bought the breadboards about six years ago from Reichelt (a German electronics store), they don't sell them anymore (unfortunately), but they are still sold by the manufacturer and can be found using product number RND 255-00024 for the supply rails, and RND 255-00025 for the breadboards themselves 😊. Although do keep in mind, that when I checked the last time on their website (the manufacturer), that it also seemed like it is the last supply from their warehouse. Kinda 'sad' if this is the case though, because in my opinion the quality of these boards is SUPER, they last A LOT longer than the equally priced ones which have a 'semitransparant'/cheap-plastic look (often indeed with the blue and red power strips integrated). Thanks for your question btw about AC, will instantly update the website for the XNL Breadboard I/O to clarify that it only takes AC 😊
@@XNLFutureTechnologies Thanks for you reply! But leaves me with a opening to create/sell audio breadboards with negative power supple rails. I am opening KiCad now! Lol
@@DustinWatts Great Idea😊! If I remember correctly you can also order those same voltages/current displays for use with AC voltages (they might still need DC5V to be powered though🤷), that is IF you want to include them of course 😉. Also: Don't make the same mistake I made about 10 years ago by using 'underrated components' (the DIP-Switches), on my boards they have been working fine like mentioned in the video, but they are uses WAY over their specified limits of course 🤣. If you might make an AC Version of this project and are going to publish it for example, then let me know😊, I might then be able to post a link on my XNL Breadboard I/O project/product page to link to your AC version😊. Good luck 👍
Using a plastic sheet is a very bad idea, as you implied. I have destroyed display drivers using a similar setup, you could see the effect of static buildup by hanging a sheet of cellophane over the sheet after very little friction with my shirt sleeve. By saying it’s bad then to doing it you are saying it’s OK to do so, it isn’t.
You are right (partially), it is indeed a bad idea, like I indeed stated in the video and also gave clear recommendations on what others should use instead. "By saying it’s bad then to doing it you are saying it’s OK to do so, it isn’t." Euhm yes it IS okay to do with my project what I want 😉. It was just the materials I had still laying around like I mentioned, and I also recommended others to use (coated) metal or wood instead. Obviously I can make MY project as I wish 😊 And in my own defense (in my use and in my setup I mean): When using a breadboard properly, and properly grounding yourself + having a decent ESD mat on your desk, chances are very slim that anything will happen with my boards. I have been using boards like this for over 20 years and never had any problems in MY case so far. And i've made/tested hundreds of circuits on those boards ranging from simple transistor circuits to stuff including RAM IC's, EEPROM's, sensitive CMOS stuff etc. When it comes to projects like these I'm just filming and explaining what I MYSELF are building making, and also give information on the things that I do bad/wrong/against advice so others can do it differently. I'm not making this board FOR the content, this project of mine just became content because I made it for myself 😊
DIY is a bit of a stretch, you using a commercially available tool exactly as intended. Don't get me wrong, this solid information that many will find very useful.
(NOT meant as 'attack' 😉 ) But what did you expect then? Injection molding the ABS, then getting the strips cut etc? Or the old fashioned nails into a actual breadboard 😉 Indeed of course it is using commercially available parts , but the cutting, my OWN Breadboard interface etc are still DIY. And the board is still build/put together yourself 😊 I do get your point though no worries 😉, for most this would be considered DIY though, because you could of course also just buy a full/large sized breadboard. Have to be honest though, it is quite A LOT cheaper to make/build them yourself though😊 But honestly: If you are just going for one with a regular size/setup, then this DIY 'effort' isn't worth the time (in my opinion). If you want it bigger/custom like my layout, the tilted/angled section and the Breadboard I/O, then I do consider it worth it. But for smaller ones (like the other one shown in the video), I would not build them myself though. Thanks for your comment though of course😊
@@XNLFutureTechnologieshe wanted you to build a 3D printer from scratch using raw materials found in nature, to then 3D print the plastic parts for your then DIY project
@@XNLFutureTechnologies Truthfully I clicked on this to find out what a DIY breadboard could possibly be. What you put together here is kinda half way between a breadboard assembly and a trainer kit. I just think a better title would be "Using breadboards for large projects" but ya know what, I wouldn't have clicked on that and probably a bunch of other people wouldn't have either so you totally went the right way.
@@brocktechnology Never mind on my last reply (if you received a copy of it by email )😊. TH-cam didn't showed the second half of your comment at first (Where you said about the right way for others to click on it) . However I do still feel it's a true DIY project though, considering it is a fully custom sized base plate, has the (own design) breadboard interface on it, the (own design) 3D enclosure and baseplate on it, and the permanent jumper wiring setup to actually make it a 'fast start board'. The boards used on it where/are actually sold at the shop I ordered them from as DIY breadboard strips. The actual definition DIY is putting something together yourself, building something yourself etc. instead of buying it ready to use, or hiring a professional to build it for you. I would be able to make a video where the entire breadboard strips are 3D printed and where you would also make your own metal strips (it's not that hard actually 😊), However that would be way much more work, and also MUCH more costly. This alternative is actually MUCH cheaper than buying large breadboards 😊 My title and thumbnail however where/are really not intended as 'clickbait' though, because I truly consider this being the DIY aspect of making a (stable and economical viable) breadboard to your own custom desires/needs😊. Would (for me at least) kinda be the same as saying that building a shed with wooden boards and 2x4's isn't DIY unless you actually cut the trees down yourself (if you understand my view on this haha 😊)
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Plexiglas is acrylic brand acrylic. Not random polystyrene glass. Nice project though
Yeah you are absolutely right there😊, I was initially thinking about putting a small 'note' on screen about this. While recording I first wanted to call it Lexan (often called Lexaan in Dutch), but that's also a brand🤣. However for my English pronunciation I figured it would be easier to say Plexiglas instead of polystyrene every-time. But you are absolutely 100% right 😊👍
And thank you for your compliment of course😊
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I like what you have done here
@@michaelkeithduncan Thanks ☺️ Hope the video will be useful for others or at least inspire some to build their own breadboard layout to improve their workflow ☺️
Perfect solution of a good idea. 👍
@@jimknopf705 Thanks, much appreciated ☺️
I stopped breadboarding years ago. It's so much easier now to simulate your design with SPICE (analog) or Verilog (digital), and have a PC board fabbed. I dont have any circuit bugs with the PCB, because those were found and fixed via simulation; only an occasional solder joint issue with surface-mount devices. Diagnostic software is fairly easy to code-up, and that narrows-down the occasional bad solder joint so I rarely need a scope or logic analyzer for debugging.
Love that the simulation only approach for you works that satisfying, however for many it's just not the way to go, and for many the physical hardware experimenting and such is also a large part of the hobby 😊
There are many circuits which I just drew the PCB in either Eagle or KiCad and not once have I tested it on a breadboard or simulation for that matter, without any issues.
But I (just like many) still love to test stuff physically, experiment with projects and components and such. I personally do see the value of simulations, but for me a simulation is still that: A simulation, it's not a real world test, with influences and imperfections from the real world environment, components etc. Sure that can also be simulated to an extend, but I guess that you understand where I'm coming from haha 😊
Btw: You have some nice Nixie tube projects/setups on your page, nice monitoring systems on some of them also 😊👍
cool project, might build me one of those XNL boards too
Thanks, truly Appreciated 😊. I totally love the Breadboard I/O, and despite it's (for me though) an "ancient design" I made almost a decade ago, it's these days still my main go-to when using my breadboards 😊
Have to admit though, that if you work a lot (or at least frequently) with LCD's or OLED's etc on your breadboard that you should really try the '40 degree add-on'. I thought it would be handy but honestly:🤯.
That last minute 'add-on experiment' was the best idea I had for this entire breadboard to be honest
🤣
Good job
Thanks 😊
Very cool. Can it do ±15 AC, for sound work? That would be MY ideal breadboard and am now wondering why I didn't build one. Thanks for the inspiration and as I said, great project! Quick questions, where did you get the breadboards with supply rail separate?
Unfortunately my XNL Breadboard I/O won't accept AC, this due to a shared ground between the 5V, 3.3V and DC Jack (needed for most logic/communication circuits, but not ideal for certain audio circuits). The Voltage/current display (at least the one I'm using) isn't suitable for AC either.
I bought the breadboards about six years ago from Reichelt (a German electronics store), they don't sell them anymore (unfortunately), but they are still sold by the manufacturer and can be found using product number RND 255-00024 for the supply rails, and RND 255-00025 for the breadboards themselves 😊.
Although do keep in mind, that when I checked the last time on their website (the manufacturer), that it also seemed like it is the last supply from their warehouse. Kinda 'sad' if this is the case though, because in my opinion the quality of these boards is SUPER, they last A LOT longer than the equally priced ones which have a 'semitransparant'/cheap-plastic look (often indeed with the blue and red power strips integrated).
Thanks for your question btw about AC, will instantly update the website for the XNL Breadboard I/O to clarify that it only takes AC 😊
@@XNLFutureTechnologies Thanks for you reply! But leaves me with a opening to create/sell audio breadboards with negative power supple rails. I am opening KiCad now! Lol
@@DustinWatts Great Idea😊! If I remember correctly you can also order those same voltages/current displays for use with AC voltages (they might still need DC5V to be powered though🤷), that is IF you want to include them of course 😉.
Also: Don't make the same mistake I made about 10 years ago by using 'underrated components' (the DIP-Switches), on my boards they have been working fine like mentioned in the video, but they are uses WAY over their specified limits of course
🤣.
If you might make an AC Version of this project and are going to publish it for example, then let me know😊, I might then be able to post a link on my XNL Breadboard I/O project/product page to link to your AC version😊. Good luck 👍
Using a plastic sheet is a very bad idea, as you implied. I have destroyed display drivers using a similar setup, you could see the effect of static buildup by hanging a sheet of cellophane over the sheet after very little friction with my shirt sleeve. By saying it’s bad then to doing it you are saying it’s OK to do so, it isn’t.
You are right (partially), it is indeed a bad idea, like I indeed stated in the video and also gave clear recommendations on what others should use instead.
"By saying it’s bad then to doing it you are saying it’s OK to do so, it isn’t." Euhm yes it IS okay to do with my project what I want 😉. It was just the materials I had still laying around like I mentioned, and I also recommended others to use (coated) metal or wood instead. Obviously I can make MY project as I wish 😊
And in my own defense (in my use and in my setup I mean): When using a breadboard properly, and properly grounding yourself + having a decent ESD mat on your desk, chances are very slim that anything will happen with my boards. I have been using boards like this for over 20 years and never had any problems in MY case so far. And i've made/tested hundreds of circuits on those boards ranging from simple transistor circuits to stuff including RAM IC's, EEPROM's, sensitive CMOS stuff etc.
When it comes to projects like these I'm just filming and explaining what I MYSELF are building making, and also give information on the things that I do bad/wrong/against advice so others can do it differently. I'm not making this board FOR the content, this project of mine just became content because I made it for myself 😊
DIY is a bit of a stretch, you using a commercially available tool exactly as intended. Don't get me wrong, this solid information that many will find very useful.
(NOT meant as 'attack' 😉 ) But what did you expect then? Injection molding the ABS, then getting the strips cut etc? Or the old fashioned nails into a actual breadboard 😉
Indeed of course it is using commercially available parts , but the cutting, my OWN Breadboard interface etc are still DIY. And the board is still build/put together yourself 😊
I do get your point though no worries 😉, for most this would be considered DIY though, because you could of course also just buy a full/large sized breadboard. Have to be honest though, it is quite A LOT cheaper to make/build them yourself though😊
But honestly: If you are just going for one with a regular size/setup, then this DIY 'effort' isn't worth the time (in my opinion). If you want it bigger/custom like my layout, the tilted/angled section and the Breadboard I/O, then I do consider it worth it. But for smaller ones (like the other one shown in the video), I would not build them myself though.
Thanks for your comment though of course😊
@@XNLFutureTechnologieshe wanted you to build a 3D printer from scratch using raw materials found in nature, to then 3D print the plastic parts for your then DIY project
@@ldandco the hardest part of every diy project is traveling to a remote star system and triggering a supernova for materials
@@XNLFutureTechnologies Truthfully I clicked on this to find out what a DIY breadboard could possibly be. What you put together here is kinda half way between a breadboard assembly and a trainer kit. I just think a better title would be "Using breadboards for large projects" but ya know what, I wouldn't have clicked on that and probably a bunch of other people wouldn't have either so you totally went the right way.
@@brocktechnology Never mind on my last reply (if you received a copy of it by email )😊. TH-cam didn't showed the second half of your comment at first (Where you said about the right way for others to click on it) .
However I do still feel it's a true DIY project though, considering it is a fully custom sized base plate, has the (own design) breadboard interface on it, the (own design) 3D enclosure and baseplate on it, and the permanent jumper wiring setup to actually make it a 'fast start board'.
The boards used on it where/are actually sold at the shop I ordered them from as DIY breadboard strips. The actual definition DIY is putting something together yourself, building something yourself etc. instead of buying it ready to use, or hiring a professional to build it for you.
I would be able to make a video where the entire breadboard strips are 3D printed and where you would also make your own metal strips (it's not that hard actually
😊), However that would be way much more work, and also MUCH more costly. This alternative is actually MUCH cheaper than buying large breadboards 😊
My title and thumbnail however where/are really not intended as 'clickbait' though, because I truly consider this being the DIY aspect of making a (stable and economical viable) breadboard to your own custom desires/needs😊.
Would (for me at least) kinda be the same as saying that building a shed with wooden boards and 2x4's isn't DIY unless you actually cut the trees down yourself (if you understand my view on this haha 😊)