@@Corbonzobean IT IS! IT'S CHILD ABANDONMENT! I hate the statute of limitations sometimes cause it means scum like that can just evade justice and live the high life.
I’m so glad the hospital was able to contact the embassy. There are so many terrible things that could happen to unclaimed newborns. Especially in a third world country. That is the fricking dinner bell for traffickers and abusers.
The parents haven't changed at all. Maybe they got their life sorted somehow, but they're still all about themselves, about what they want and how they feel, without any regard to anyone else.
As the abandoned kid every time I see those POS I'd take that as a challenge to humiliate the in every way possible. No way I'd let them of the hook before another decade pasts.
Kids should always be given the choice of if they eat vegan. It can be very polarizing and kids should be allowed to choose if they want to do it for ethical reasons.
Tbh, I was raised vegan/vegetarian from infancy (I'm 32 now), and this was loooong before it became trendy. My grandmother was raised vegetarian as well, so they knew what they were doing. I was incredibly healthy and my mother is an amazing cook, but when I started eating meat here and there at 13 they didn't try to stop me, even though they weren't excited about it. I'm really appreciative that I had that level of nutrition and health during my formative years.
ethical reasons go and ask farmers how many animals die for thier plants while farm animals really only exist to be our food cause its unlikely they survive in the wild
Yeah, that really irritated me. Too many parents seem to view their children as property and not individuals with rights of their own. I get its a fine balance, but the mom's behavior to me feels over that line.
@delanovanraalte3646 and how many crops are grown to feed the animals humans eat? It's much more energy efficient fro humans to eat the plants directly and many, many less animals die that way
I know 4 people who have died in water related accidents in my lifetime. 2 of those deaths were directly due to alcohol consumption and the decision to go swimming. Booze and water should only be mixed together in a drink, not in a lake or swimming pool.
Agreed, the person who passed from drowning in my life was swimming with friends at the middle of the night (in a river so little to no light). I don’t know if alcohol was involved becaused he passed before I was born, but it's still not a great decision regardless. I wish I could've met my uncle and I'm sorry about the people that you've lost too.
R/slash, you KNOW the militant vegan wife would NEVER allow anyone to be against her (she proves that by screaming "animal abuse enabler"). Sitting down and discussing would have solved nothing.
Not to mention the fact their agreement was op would be vegetarian in the house and eat vegan around her. He did nothing wrong, his son didn't want to eat vegan around his friends and his dad stuck to the agreement that he and his wife had made. Definitely a power tripping vegan
Yeah I agree with you. It's clear her veganism is radical if she's calling her husband an animal abuser over snacks, and her kid straight up threw his dad under the bus out of fear for her reaction.
I wonder why he so out of touch with this story. Talk with Insane Vegan like this won't do anything good. If don't want straight to divorce, get help from doctor/therapy first .
RSlash is wrong about the 'reaching an agreement' You can't reason with crazy. He's had some bad takes in the past, but this one isn't entirely bad, just means he has waaaay too much faith in people To do the math, his wife/girlfriend is probably a rational and reasonable person. So he might believe most marriages where cheatings not involved, are rational and reasonable
I abhor mafia vegans, so I always have to share this story: My eldest is a vegan. Her food choice is not political, nor environmental. She has simply never liked the taste of any meat (You have to trust me on this one...trying to get a three year old to eat chicken nuggets should be a no-brainer!). Two years ago, we scattered my father's ashes and had a huge family gathering. One of the weekend nights, I asked her to choose a restaurant for all of us to eat together. She chose a steakhouse. After dinner, I asked her why she chose that. Her response, "The rest of the family enjoys meat. I had a great salad!"
I have many friends who're vegan, They don't mind be at bbq party/friend gathering and help with preparing food(only Veggies ofc) , eat at the same table. Just don't mix cook/tableware with them.
I've been a vegetarian for 24 years. I'm also a chef. Regular one, I do events like concerts and whatnot. Everyone is always surprised that I still cook meat. I'm good at it🤷♂️
I used to work at a pizza parlor with 2 vegetarians. 1 went vegetarian because she ate healthier without meat, the other had a lisa simpson moment and even went vegan while working there. Half the time i forgot they were vegetarian. Especially when myself and another got bored so we challenged each other, he took a shot of frank's red hot and i ate 2 anchovies. I asked the vegetarian if she would to choose the anchovies because she would neutral, and i thought she would pick smaller ones. Nope, she picked the 2 biggest fillets she could find.
Story 3: NTA. There's no talking or negotiating with a vegan that uses the card "animal abuse enabler" against their own family at the drop of a hat. The kid shouldn't be made to go through being vegan when they don't really want to.
A kid should never be vegan... The human body absorbs nutrients (found both in meat and plants) about 15x more from meat than veggies and there's a few nutrients that are only found in meat. I'm fine with adults being vegan even if a lot of them look unhealthy AF but leave the god damn kids alone!!!!!
I've, unfortunately, only met the militant vegans of the world. I know sensible ones are out there but they seem more rare than unicorns at this point lol
Vegan story - Let's be honest here, rSlash, that wife was not open to even a fraction of a possibility of letting anyone be non-vegan in that house. The second you go from "I don't like that so I won't do it" to screaming that someone is enabling abuse because they got a particular type of candy, or didn't scold the child for getting a hamburger, there's absolutely no way back. Be honest, do you SERIOUSLY think things would have gone better if OP went "Hey, I want our son to eat what he likes." I won't say this is exactly abuse, but that woman is forcing her child to do things he doesn't want to, and screaming bloody murder because her husband doesn't agree with her. There is no calm conversation to be had when THAT is the default reaction.
It is 100% psychological abuse... The kid is terrified of his mom's reaction. Hence why he threw is father under the bus when his mom confronted them! Also a kid shouldn't be on a vegan diet period... The human body is meant to be omnivore and barely absorbs most nutrients that are found in both meat and plants when they're coming from a plant lol
@@mashonem No, it's abuse. Consider the fact that the child was so scared, he threw his own FATHER under the bus to avoid taking the heat of the punishment. Also, manipulation is a form of abuse. She is forcing a child, a literal CHILD to eat her way and not allowing him to make his own decisions. This is going to cause him to develop food anxiety and general eating disorders because he's going to grow up confused as to whether or not it's right to make choices for HIMSELF.
Parents: "Leaving you boys behind is the hardest decision we made." OP: **Laughs at their faces and called them out** Also Parents: "wHy aRE YoU sO cRuEL??" Get a clue, A-holes.
If they felt remorse for their actions, their lives likely would’ve gone further down the rabbit hole. Instead they spent over two decades care free and whatever steps they took to improve themselves, was not due to OP nor his brother.
@@tashacooper1753a hospital is not safe. Had they not had the parent's passport information and contacted the embassy, the kids would have been placed elsewhere. Hospitals cannot keep patients indefinitely unless otherwise.
@@tashacooper1753 True, but America isn't a third-world country. If they were somewhere with less-than-stellar facilities, who knows where they would have ended up if the authorities hadn't found their extended family. They'd have probably ended up in a terrible orphanage or something.
I don't think the husband in the vegan story is wrong. Talking to someone like that isn't going to result in anything different than it would if he didn't talk to her. As long as the son isn't eating unhealthily, he should be able to decide how he wants to eat. Plus one parent can't/shouldn't be able to stop the son from making his own decisions on something minor like this because of their personal choices
Honestly the fact he's not allowed to make his own food choices is probably going to lead to him eating unheathily because this is just teaching him to have an unhealthy relationship with food in the future. Ik, I wasn't allowed to not like food as a kid now that I'm an adult I have unhealthy eating habits and an unhealthy relationship with food.
Just because he gets an AH score doesn't mean he's wrong. You can be right and still be an AH in some way. He still should have tried to talk to her instead of going behind her back, that's the only reason he got a 0.5/5 score. They're still married parents, so they still need to talk things out. If he did so and she still reacted the same, then it would be a clear NTA, and she would get a higher score for being unreasonable. Also, we don't know if this is regular behavior from her, or just lashing out in anger because she feels betrayed. Not all vegans are crazy.
RSlash: OP you're in the wrong for making a decision about your kid without your wife The wife: *makes a unilateral decision for the whole family without consulting anyone and emotionally terrorizes anyone who disagrees*
maybe he think there is a minor possibility that the wife will be reasonable ( which she is not), but to discussing this will prove it. if she blow up regardless then she is a just a big asshole, but if she agrees then there's no problem at all.
Not to mention, it isn’t a “parenting” decision. The kid already eats meat on his own accord. Like would they just force the kid? You could try to convince the mother but I doubt she would fold.
Story 4: Your husband seem to make a lot of reckless decisions when he's drunk, trying to go party with a group a people he doesn't know, and dark drunk swimming are terrible ideas. The fact that from what it sounds like everyone agrees with you, is probably why he was upset, his wife was stopping him as if he was a child, and everyone saw.
And RSlash made a valid point if husband always makes stupid decisions while intoxicated? I wouldn’t be surprised if he made poor decisions while sober?
Honestly, OP and his brother aren't being cruel ENOUGH. They were abandoned in a foreign country and found by the rest of the family by SHEER LUCK, and were also lucky enough to be raised by a loving family. Things could've gone SO MUCH WORSE for them! These two parents are lucky that OP and the brother even allow some contact at all.
Story#2: OP's husband shouldn't have sex if he can't handle seeing menstrual products. Story#3: The kid is 12 yo and should be allowed to feel comfortable with his friends. The mom is controlling.
I wish RSlash had at least added an “but on a serious note” commentary after that joke because how can we even be sure whose side he’s really on in this matter? Without clearer context on whose side he’s on, I’m treating it as a bad take. OP is NTA.
The germaphobe.. he needs to get a therapist asap, speaking from personal experience. I wouldn’t say he’s a butthole at all, because literally it’s his house his rules. But OCD can either creep up slowly or straight out of left field. And it warps your perceptions of what’s typical and what can be considered excessive worry. He’s not doing anything “wrong” by simply asking people to not dirty up his house. But what he’s considering dirty seems to be shifting in an unhealthy direction.
Yeah, I can say that I have the exact same problem and I go to therapy. But it's also a bit of a cultural thing for me. I grew up in an Asian household where we have house clothes. But yeah, I don't tell my guests to change. I only tell them to take off their shoes.
Yep, same here. For me it started similar to this guy too, slowly and little by little so you don't even notice that's it's become unreasonable until it gets to the extreme. So I agree, nta as he can't control what his brain is telling him, it genually seems reasonable to him, but he defs needs therapy asap.
Covid made me more squeamish about street clothes. If I go to the doctor or ride on transit, I’ll change when I get home. I will sit on my living room furniture in clothes I’ve worn out n public, but I won’t even sit on my bed for a second. I do have an anxiety disorder and have had problems with OCD. I think my behavior is okay, although I’m a little germaphobic. Asking guest to don protective clothing or change is taking a little far unless they work with something germy, smelly, gross, etc. I’d recommend therapy and possibly medication.
Thank you. This is what I was thinking. They set the rules. It is clear that they help but in no way were they an asshole. In fact it sounds like the friend was warned AHEAD OF TIME cause OP said "when I actually enforced it" so the guy KNEW the rules, came over, and then wanted to ignore them. That "friend" deserves a 2/5 AH score frfr. Like I get it feels unreasonable but that is for sure not how you go about telling them. If your friend was like "Hey no outside food in my house" and you went "alright" then got there and ordered a pizza or pulled snacks out your pockets you suck. Yeah the rule is weird but you agreed and then broke the rules. Honestly if I was him I would be GLAD that dude just took off rather than continue to disrespect me.
Story 1: the rest of your family wasn't abandoned at the hospital in a foreign country where anything could have happened to you. Of anything shouldn't they be more upset that they came back after the two of you are adults demanding a relationship, did they even pay back the money they stole? If they want sympathy for abandoning two newborns in a foreign country, then get it from anyone except the two people in the world that was more affected than they could have ever been.
@@ArcanineEspeon- I’m guessing it’s an autocorrect flub. Maybe “fishing for ”. Sympathy would be the most likely ‘something’, but idk how you go from that to ‘head’, unless their keyboard just outright stopped functioning for a bit (like mine does sometimes on this old iPad…).
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@@ArcanineEspeon, I guess OP changed it by now, but I liked that so I'm gonna use _"try fishing forehead"_ as an insult from now on! :-D
The guy with the story about the germs and furniture really has OCD. Look at this comment from him: It can't be impossible to keep it sterile. I scrub it with bleach and chlorine mixtures every day. And I mean everywhere I can possibly reach. I also have an air sterilizer. Plus I wipe down the toilet and spray a bunch of air freshener after every time I use it. Do I need to buy special machinery or something?
I dont see the problem I try to avoid messing other people houses and follow their house rules This guy just wants to keep his house clean and even went out of his way to accomedate People who didnt bring their clothes with by buying raincoats for them Its totally reasonable rule imo
@@M12230It is _very_ unhealthy to be so focused on keeping things clean. That's why it is a mental illness and needs to be treated. You can't and shouldn't try to eradicate all germs in your surroundings. Not only is it impossible, it can be harmful. We, as humans, are a walking biosphere. We have a microbiome that's unique to us. Inside and outside. Trying to eliminate bacteria around us, runs the risk of giving bad, more resilient bacteria, a foothold. Not to mention that a sterile environment, and all those cleaning products, increase the risk of developing allergies. He could literally be giving himself asthma from the constant bleaching alone.
Germ story definitely sounds like the manifestation of OCD. Intrusive and obsessive thoughts about germs that's affecting your daily life is really serious. I hope op gets help
For the story where hubby was waiting for the price to drop to buy plane tickets. This is a tip from someone who flies frequently to people who haven't flown before. If at all possible, do not purchase tickets close to your fly out date and do not purchase them during the holidays. The further in advance you purchase your tickets, the less expensive they will be. The closer to when you leave, the more expensive they will be. This is because as it gets closer to when you plan to leave, the planes are starting to fill up and have fewer and fewer seats, so they charge more for the seats they have left
Second to last story: My family has this practice, but we don't make guests change out of their clothes. We just put sheets over the couches. Anything that isn't plush just gets wiped down later. Shoes get taken off, though. That's both a germ thing and just a sign of respect.
So a raging vegan mom and a reluctantly vegetarian dad ought to have a conversation with their emerging omnivore 12 year old son. There is no winning scenario there that doesn't involve dad and son moving out. Perhaps separation or divorce.
They thought about their future and realized they were going to die alone. Their delusional brains thought those kids would just forgive them, and actually care about them.
Last story: I think the husband didn't want to go to New Orleans and was being a passive-aggressive jerk. "Waiting for the prices to go down" hasn't been a thing since the 90s.
@@tehevilengineer7939not if you already have the days booked, they don't. if you CHOOSE off-season the prices will be lower than on-season, but not a single flight company would ever lower their prices the closer you buy from the date. I'm pretty sure the husband never flew nor knew everyone who ever got on a plane; OR he was mallicious about not wanting to go. There's no way anyone who dealt with flying doesn't know the sooner you buy the tickets, the cheaper they are. I'm not from the US, and in our family/friendgroup we try to buy tickets at least 4 months beforehand to not waste money with the price skyrocketing; because it can be the difference between (the equivalent of) a US$90 flight or paying US$580 for the same flight. (personal experience with me buying tickets and someone else waiting last minute to buy them)
@@bella-rolland Not always the case, but we need to be talking likely 5+ months out for prices to go down rather than only upward. There are apps that track that sort of thing, and if you watch closely, airline tickets fluctuate RIDICULOUSLY when the flight is that far out.
"Where you're supposed to retreat to your woman hut where you won't corrupt men with your unclean touch" Hawaiian culture, that's EXACTLY what happened. There was literally a period hut, bro, Dabney, you were exactly on point 😂😑
Last story: I thought plan tickets prices go up the more last minute they are. Your husband took a Gamble and lost, but instead of just eating it he tried to get you to waste your money so he wouldn't have to waist his's. Screw him he did this to himself now you enjoy your vacation.
you can get them a little cheaper but you have to both book at weird times( when they don't expect people to be shopping for work or vacation flights) and fly at weird times and routes
Feels like they think that all non vegans should die out, like if they can't be vegan, then that means they shouldn't live at all, which is what I'm getting from these crazy vegans. Of course not all vegans are like this, but you know, the extreme ones speak the loudest.
I laugh when people say that shit. “Oh, leaving you was a very difficult choice and I live with that guilt everyday.” Yet they’re living their lives, as if they don’t regret their decision at all
Story 3: What OP's wife fails to recognize is that not everyone is comfortable with a vegan lifestyle, and she can't force them. Now, considering her behavior, I don't think trying to have a conversation with the wife would work, she'd just go on some "Animal Abuse Enabler" rant the SECOND OP starts to suggest letting the kid have something non-vegan
Isn't this abuse? You can't force someone to have the same diet as you. Aren't also vegans notoriously malnourished because they get less protein and fat than non vegans. By OPs wife trying to make her son vegan she's just malnourishing him which will probably effect his growth.
@@darkmask5933 That and also the human body does not nearly absorb as much nutrients from plants than meat (around 70% vs 5-10%). There's also a few nutrients that are only found in meat that help prevent quite a few body dysfunctionalities lol
@@XarosaiHumans can live, and thrive, on a vegetarian diet. Even vegan if they are thorough with their research. The issue is when they start to make false claims and pushes their conviction onto others.
Story 6: Okay, so I don't know if the same thing applies to plane tickets, but the hotel I went to a few times has a small price increase as not only are the rooms about to be sold out, but how much time there is between booking and check-in. So this husband thinking that plane ticket prices magically dropping close to departure time is just stupid. If he was trying to make OP stay at home, then OP *REALLY* needed that vacation away from him, but if he was just an idiot, I don't really know where he got that logic from
Plane tickets pretty much never go down. Last time I flew I booked about 7 months in advance, $129 round trip. The day before I looked just out of curiosity, would have cost me $450.
Planes, buses, trains, motels, even rental cars all go up the closer to the date needed. That's why it's always a good idea to reserve/pre-book anytime you know you'll be travelling and require things like lodging and transportation.
Either he sabotage the vacation on purpose or he’s actually that incompetent. He should’ve just paid the 3K for the two tickets. If you have the money and spending it doesn’t break the bank, just do it.
And the earlier you book a flight, the cheaper the tickets. I think he tried to sabotage the trip. I’ve heard this story before and spouse kept blowing up OPs phone until she turned it off. Afterwards she had some angry messages from him.
I personally think he tried to sabotage it from the get-go. The longer you wait the more expensive plane tickets get, I feel like a lot of people know that by now. Plus, he was told months in advance that he literally had 2 jobs. Take time off, get the tickets. Everything else fell on his wife’s shoulders, and he suddenly just wants her to cancel all her planning and stay home.. Definitely sabotage.
5:11 I wouldn't mind hearing their backstory about how they go Petty, with the defeat of Parry, The Platypus. Because they truly got Doofenshmirtz 'd. 5 out of 5 might be light for them, though I do think it is adequate enough for now.
Wow, a vegan trying to force everyone around them to be vegans too. Reminds me of the family telling their neighbors to close their windows when they cook meat because they can smell it.
She sort of reminds me of the vegan teacher the fact that she’s being insane and yelling around to be vegan and forcing others to be vegan just sounds like something she’d do
It genuinely feels like most of the outspoken vegans do it for a sense of superiority. If you want to go vegan for the animals, go for it. Just don't try to aggressively change the opinions of others, because it does more harm than good to your cause.
Vegan wife story: Rslash, talking wouldn't have done anything. OP's wife would've just freaked out like she did in this story. She's basically becoming one of those animal rights activists that call meat eaters murderers and animal abusers for eating meat not being able to understand that what happens to animals now is better than the alternatives. There was no way talking to her would've gone well and OP made the right choice eitherway
My mother and her siblings were all abandoned as children by my insane grandparents in France. They were separated and some grew up in orphanages or abusive foster families because my great-grandparents couldn't care for them all. It ruined my mother's life and she never really recovered
For the last story, he's definitely trying to make her stay home with him. I really don't believe anyone do this if they didn't have another motive. And also, he just smoothly *suggested* that they just stay home with him and not go on the vacation then got surprised that she actually went. Whatever happened to actually talking to your wife that you don't wanna go on the vacation
Story 1 is similar to Francine's story in American Dad. When she was a baby her mom and dad were getting on a plane and the gate agent says "Sorry, children aren't allowed in 1st class" Francine's bio mom hands her to the gate agent and says "here can you take this for us?" And then says to her husband while they're walking onto the flight without baby francine, "oh thank goodness for a second there I thought that was gonna be a problem". Then they continued on to live their lives. Seems like an outrageous story for laughs. But op's bio parents literally did exactly that....
there's a place close to me that's been turned into a man made lake for swimming. The lake used to be a MASSIVE quartz mine, so it is extremely deep, and the edges are very sharp + slippery when wet. The place is called a death trap because drunk people would swim there, and drown or accidentally cut something and panic. the 4th OP was trying to save the husbands life, because god knows that that man could have very easily died, and no one could have helped him. I would NOT trust someone so reckless with their own life to start a family with, if they're willing to risk their life just for some temporary fun then I wouldn't even wanna think what he'd do in the future.
The story about the germaphobe forcing guests to change their clothes reminds me so much of my own mother... Except my mother is worse about it and it's about "smells" instead of germs.
I do a job that requires me to go into people’s houses and I just had a client who said I was not allowed to wear anything with any type of scent, my clothing could not smell like fabric softener etc. They had other odd requirements… one of those highly eccentric families.
Giving up kids for adoption is a hard decision to make. Abandoning them without making any arrangements for them isn't hard, it's despicable! They left the twin babies not knowing if they would be split up, if they would spend their entire childhood in an orphanage or be adopted by horrible people, fall into the hands of trafficers, live on the streets. It was pure luck that the kids were brought to their family, despite what the parents did!
Story 2: tell your husband that the box is not going to kill his friend. This isn't Pre-K an adult man should at least be able to see them without panicking.
No it’s not, and women shouldn’t be ashamed or anything. However, I do think she shouldn’t of left it on the counter, simply because it’s not her house therefore, she can’t just leave her stuff lying around.
@@VengeanceRemixthey were on vacation, the apartment was for a vacation, it was no ones home all three were renting it. So does your logic include Hotel rooms too, cuz thats what the apartment basically was. So what she has to keep them hidden in her suit case? She has to carry a suit case or bag to the bathroom every time? Why is it okay to have a box of pads in the bathroom at home but not on vacation? Why does a woman have to hide period products from a man at all? Why are men so afraid of periods?
@@BVBGirl-3313It's just consideration vs TMI. She doesn't have to hide them shamefully but it's like leaving your hemorrhoid cream or condoms or underwear lying out in the open. It's awkward for people nor in the same household.
I honestly can't think of any reason where abandoning your child in a foreign country, without contacting anyone about it to boot, would be a better alternative than... well, anything.
The wife quite literally revealed exactly why a conversation and son telling her what he wants, would not solve anything. She's lashing out calling them animal abusers and evil. You really think them telling her upfront 'I dont wanna be vegan' would solve anything, when she lashes out as intensely as a kid coming out? No need to edit this out, as this isn't one of those 'I'm going against my own advice' or 'boundaries are bad now' takes. More a 'I have a bit too much faith in people' takes.
in a hospital is better than on the streets. the parents suck 100% but would the twins have been better off with the drug addict parent or in a hospital. and babies are dead weight if you don't want them.
I'm sorry rslash, but that vegan story is a no go. The dad shouldn't have gotten the ahole score at all. I dont believe in forcing your children to be vegan because of YOUR beliefs. If they wanna choose when they're old enough to understand, then that's fine. But don't force your beliefs on your kids. And sitting down and talking with the wife wouldnt have done anything. She wouldve just freaked out, as she already did.
@@P.ParamoForcing kids and educating are different and I’m concerned you don’t understand that. You should teach both point of views and not parade your kid around as a pawn.
Story 1: I think about the 9 children that I lost, and I think about the 2 beautiful children that made it. I can’t find words in any language that could describe how this story and others like it, make me feel. All I can say is the egg and sperm donors are extremely lucky to be able to meet these fine young people 25 years later.
I just want to say something about the swimming story, it’s actually a lot more dangerous than most people think or realize. So in fresh water, warm lakes hot springs etc. there is actually a bacteria that exists in those places that a lot of people don’t realize. So say you drunkenly do a cannon ball or dive into the lake at one point thinking “oh itll be fun!!!” That bacteria can get into your nose and swim up to your brain and just like a zombie it starts eating your brain matter. It can be deadly and fatal. Scary to think about.
The guy in the 5th story definetly has OCD. I also have it and that's why I don't think he deserves more than 1/5 buttholes. What he did was 100% wrong, but he clearly just needs therapy
I also have OCD, I agree he definitely has OCD. While I do sympathize with his struggle, I don't think that excuses his response. 2/5 buttholes. If he was like I know I'm being difficult or unreasonable, but can't help it, I'd go 0.5/5. But this guy thinks he is right, so he needs help cause he not living in real world.
He told the guy beforehand that its a house rule and the guy ignored him, thinking it was a joke. Its his home and he has every right to enforce his rules in his home, even if its OCD related. Him and his family don't make a fuss over it so why does he have to change his own home for the convince of others who will visit less than 24 hours. Sure he should go to therapy if he's not going, but IMO everyone should be going to therapy because the brain is an organ that needs check ups as often as the rest of our organs. But telling someone how to live in their own home because their rules are inconvenient to you is messed up. If you don't like their rules, don't go to their place. Don't go to their place and tell them their rules are silly and get mad when they tell you to leave. Thats so disrespectful
@@thebaregentleman2570 Yeah that's my point, I do understand him but he was still wrong. That's why he needs therapy, because he doesn't understand it's wrong. It's just hard to give a butthole score to someone that is mentally ill but technically not hurting anyone. He is in the wrong, but it's also not completely his fault.
@@nicolegoodew1547 This seems to be a recent thing if all his friends aren't aware. So, would you believe if your friend suddenly told you that you need to wear a gas mask in his home as you two are going towards it, or would you think he's messing with you? And then when you get to his home, you are presented with a full on military gas mask because you might just spread your germs in his home and that's unacceptable. Oh, you don't really need to wear it outside tho, because it only matters inside the home! So are you gonna be disrespectful and leave because of how ridiculous it is, or are you just gonna accept wearing the gas mask for the duration of your stay?
As someone who got abandoned by only *one* parent I can say that throwing their attempts to apologize in their face with "And how the eff did that help ME?!" was perfectly justified. That OP in story one got abandoned in another country by *both* parents gives him the right to say whatever he feels like to his progenitors.
Agreed. Maybe this is just a product of how I was raised, but you don't invite someone to your house if you're just going to make them uncomfortable by forcing them to change clothes or wear a ridiculous plastic body suit. Everybody has germs and bacteria all the time and no one can be completely sterile all the time. Dude needs therapy.
OP has OCD. I agree with your suggestion. Even draping a sheet or blanket over the couch should be fine, but this behavior screams OCD. There’s being germaphobic, and there’s pathological. I sympathize, as I’ve had problems off and on myself. I fear it’ll get worse rather than better without professional intervention.
right??? wtf lol. i have those same concerns since the pandemic. that is literally how i would handle it. i wouldn't force guests to shower or change their clothes lol
The "changing into different clothes" story is like a mix of me and my best friend. I always change clothes when I come home from e.g. work. But I don't have the same sort of OCD that my best friend has; I have seen it affecting her daily life a lot. She does a deep cleanse after work by going into the shower, washing her hair, scrubbing her skin, changing all her clothes, all the works before she is able to settle down in her own home. She also can't use public bathrooms like most people do (she has a severe phobia of germs), and she has to count how many times she checks locks or stoves or other appliances being turned off. I do some of these things but if I have mild OCD, hers is SEVERE.
Story two: at first i was like, okay yeah shared place you shouldnt leave used pads where you can see the blood. Wrap them up and hide them cause no one wants to see blood.... BUT NO!!! ITS UNUSED PADS!!! Bro if you cant handle seeing UNUSED sanitary products YOU are the one that needs to find accomadations, not everyone else.
Living here in New Orleans I can confirm prices are outrageous. The cancellation fees for what she got would be at minimum half if not 3/4 of what she already paid depending on which hotel. It would've probably cost more than both plane tickets combined to cancel the trip.
Vegan Storey: dad is not the AH. From the story, it's clear how the mom would have reacted had he tried to have the conversation on the front end. It wouldn't have been a conversation at all. Drunk husband story: husband is an AH, clearly, and probably needs to stop drinking. The wife is also the AH. Not for stopping him from jumping in the lake, but for the last bit. He didn't do it and after he got back, she thought it was a great idea to pull a clearly drunk person into the house to 'force him to have a conversation' before going to bed. That isn't the time to try and have that conversion. In what world do you think, this guy is so intoxicated he is seriously thinking of swimming in a lake, but I need to have a any sort of legit conversation with him, right now, before I go to bed. That's dumb. He's drunk, won't process it, and can only end up in problems. Either it's an argument or he says something drunkenly that will hurt your feelings, and he wouldn't even remember the conversation anyway. A normal person would have waited until the morning and have that conversation. Let him know the things he was doing while intoxicated and have the conversion about getting help, or stop drinking, etc. The reason he is acting like Everything is OK and nothing happened is because he probably doesn't even remember it. Clearly he needs help and deserves an AH score, but OP was completely sober, trying to argue with a person that is completely hammered, and is angry he didn't respond the way she wanted when she forced him inside to confront him. She gets an AH score as well.
About the drunk-in-the-lake story: I agree with you, that the wife’s choice to talk to her very drunk husband about his bad decision wasn’t smart, because he’s still too wasted to think rationally. She deserves a VERY low asshole score IMO, like .5/5. I understand, she was extremely pissed at him for being so stupid, and was probably still hot about that. The conversation really needed to wait until the next day, when he’s sober. The conversation also needs to include that maybe he should stop drinking, because he’s likely to endanger himself again while he’s drunk.
I don't think that because someone chooses to go vegan, that they should force their children to be vegan as well. Be vegan if you want, but behavior like that is what has given veganism the issue it has now (like vegans looking down on non-vegans and acting superior). The kid was old enough to make his own choice, and he made it. He doesn't want to be vegan. Mom should respect that.
Story One: The only way I could POSSIBLY fight you on the 5/5 Butthole score is with the Spinal Tap GIF, "This one goes up to eleven." Story Two: Seriously OP's friend was aware he was traveling with a woman & knows they do that from time to time, NTA.
Ironically, I was listening to an audiobook called Stormweaver where a kid gets abandoned by his parents due his phybrosis (flesh turns to bone) on another planet. But yeah, first story NTA, they need to hear it and feel shame.
Story 2. From the title I thought it was used pads, and i was thinking, its probably best they are wrapped in toilet paper so no blood shows and placed in the bin. But nope, it was the packet, as if it was sitting in the supermarket.
That's what I was assuming too. And the way the woman talked made me think it was one of those things where there's blood and she's confused and a bit angry why the men don't want to touch it or see it. Like again, that's not hygienic and I wish people would see it like I do. It's just the same if someone got sick or had a bathroom accident. That being said, the guy seeing the box is a different story. It's ridiculous.
As a former athlete, that son needs to be eating a lot more protein than what, I assume, the mom is providing in a vegan diet. My body couldn’t sustain how much exercise I was doing because of how little protein I was getting despite eating a bunch of tofu, beans, etc. I couldn’t start eating primarily vegan/vegetarian options until after I graduated university and finished my athletic career.
the ones who do respect their children as real individual people. those that just make such decisions for their kids often view their children as extensions of themselves or like a pet that can talk.
The drunk swimming story. I know a guy who is like that. When he drinks its almost like a life goal to make the dumbest decisions possible. Sadly the story screams misogyny, cause with my buddy im stern with him. Always tell him how much of a fool he was and he often thanks me from stopping him.
Story 3: i am vegetarian, no meat, no fish. But i would never force my choice upon anyone, kids should choose themselves. I do not understand this whole forcing diet upon other people.
For that last story, there are plenty of travel sites that you can book your flights through that will adjust the final price to what the cheapest price was after you booked but before the flight. I think the husband just didn't want to go.
First story: "Wow... They even had the f*cking audacity to play the "it was hard for us to leave you" card. Seriously, why the rest of the family allowed them back.
Story 4: living with someone who is an alcoholic. It’s so hard to try to talk or rationalize with someone when they’re drunk. They will think what they’re doing isn’t doing any harm when in reality it is. Then when sober will try to play the victim about it. I’ve dealt with this issue for years with my dad. The final straw was when he got so drunk he almost fell on top of me and my infant son. (We inherited my grandparents home). I told him the next day that if he ever gets like that again or even drinks around us that we will leave and I will move out with my son and have NC until he is actually sober. He told me that if I did that, it would break his heart. I said that maybe that’s the wake up call that he needs then. It ended up being the wake up call he needed. He has been sober going on 2 months now and just recently told me how he didn’t realize until after getting sober how much he relied on shooters.
Story 1: You forgot the people trying to push OP to apologize. They also deserve a butthole score IMO. I'd say 2-3 buttholes, for defending those bio-parents.
Another story about a vegan who makes their diet everone else's problem...I don't think 2.5 is enough for her, not only is she controlling, judgemental, abusive, and given how easily she bought into propaganda I'm gonna say not all that smart either. I couldn't see myself in a relationship with a person like that, divorce might be in their future.
First story: Those parents aren’t a five out of five. This is a 1000 out of five! Alright Rslash you said if anyone disagrees you will fight them so here I am! ✊😠✊
The germ story: even though OP needs therapy, they did inform the friend of what would be needed and expected OP to just let it go when they came over. "They were surprised I actually enforced it" what if OP had severe allergies and this is what was needed? Would the friend still disregard OP's potential life-threatening allergies?
story 2: it depends if they were used or not. if she left unused tampons in the bag, fine, but if she left used bloody tampons on the counter then massive YTA. thats just unsanitary
Finally. Someone gets it. Even though it sounds like they weren't used. So many people say that if a man doesn't want to see it, it's because of "cooties" and seems to forget that if it's used, it's not sanitary. It's the same thing as if someone got sick or had a bathroom accident.
I just have to say, you literally mentioned them avoiding jail time in the story by staying MIA. Can they be sued by OP and his brother or something because right now then getting off with nothing but hate from their boys sucks
I'm relating to the "change clothes cuz germs" story hard. We take off our shoes when we go indoors, and many people strip their work clothes immediately because of germs or grime, why is this so odd? I immediately change clothes when I get home because I'm dirty from working and being on the bus and I offer my sister or close friends a change of clothes if we get rained on, dirty or sweaty. It's really nice of OP to offer to do laundry for people. Maybe robes instead of raincoats tho.
I do change my clothes but only after a long day of work. And most of the time, I change from my work clothes to my PJs because I know I'm not going anywhere most likely.
I hate those vegans who have holier than thou attitude. If you don't want to eat animal products its your choice. You can't force a child to follow your diet when they are clearly against it . That's also abuse. and at the end of the day humans are animals so technically you are abusing animals just skipping the eating part.
Someone needs to tell Op about plastic covers for your furniture. Even though mostly only old people still use them to keep their furniture looking good
The last story the husband 100% was hoping the wife would cancel and stay home, ticket prices DO NOT go down the closer to you booking date, they go up because you waited till the last minute. He probably never wanted to go and should have just said so in the first place.
They’re pretty unbearable online. Personally, I think they get brain-damaged after a few years of no meat, because meat provides nutrients, like choline, that they can’t get from plants. Their malnutrition distorts their brain function. 🙁
Abandoning your kids in a foreign country should break the AH scale. 5/5 is far too low.
Even 100/5 AH is low !!
♾️/5!! Those sorry excuses for cannon fodder deserve this score!!
@@LunaP1still too low. Hold crap. The delusion in these parents...
Abandoning your newborns in another country should be internationally illegal tbh
@@Corbonzobean IT IS! IT'S CHILD ABANDONMENT! I hate the statute of limitations sometimes cause it means scum like that can just evade justice and live the high life.
Third story: *Food issues are **_control_** issues.* The wife is a control freak. She needs to be called out on it.
I’m so glad the hospital was able to contact the embassy. There are so many terrible things that could happen to unclaimed newborns. Especially in a third world country. That is the fricking dinner bell for traffickers and abusers.
The “bio parents” didn’t care about OP and the brother the “parents” cared only about themselves
The parents haven't changed at all. Maybe they got their life sorted somehow, but they're still all about themselves, about what they want and how they feel, without any regard to anyone else.
Or even in the best case scenario, they could’ve been separated
As the abandoned kid every time I see those POS I'd take that as a challenge to humiliate the in every way possible. No way I'd let them of the hook before another decade pasts.
To bad he only gives 5 out of 5 it should be 10 out of 5
Kids should always be given the choice of if they eat vegan. It can be very polarizing and kids should be allowed to choose if they want to do it for ethical reasons.
Tbh, I was raised vegan/vegetarian from infancy (I'm 32 now), and this was loooong before it became trendy. My grandmother was raised vegetarian as well, so they knew what they were doing. I was incredibly healthy and my mother is an amazing cook, but when I started eating meat here and there at 13 they didn't try to stop me, even though they weren't excited about it. I'm really appreciative that I had that level of nutrition and health during my formative years.
ethical reasons go and ask farmers how many animals die for thier plants while farm animals really only exist to be our food cause its unlikely they survive in the wild
Yeah, that really irritated me. Too many parents seem to view their children as property and not individuals with rights of their own. I get its a fine balance, but the mom's behavior to me feels over that line.
@@delanovanraalte3646 The kid should be able to choose that, not have it forced onto him.
@delanovanraalte3646 and how many crops are grown to feed the animals humans eat? It's much more energy efficient fro humans to eat the plants directly and many, many less animals die that way
I know 4 people who have died in water related accidents in my lifetime. 2 of those deaths were directly due to alcohol consumption and the decision to go swimming. Booze and water should only be mixed together in a drink, not in a lake or swimming pool.
Agreed, the person who passed from drowning in my life was swimming with friends at the middle of the night (in a river so little to no light). I don’t know if alcohol was involved becaused he passed before I was born, but it's still not a great decision regardless. I wish I could've met my uncle and I'm sorry about the people that you've lost too.
I was saved from drowning by a friend. Now BIL.
R/slash, you KNOW the militant vegan wife would NEVER allow anyone to be against her (she proves that by screaming "animal abuse enabler"). Sitting down and discussing would have solved nothing.
Not to mention the fact their agreement was op would be vegetarian in the house and eat vegan around her. He did nothing wrong, his son didn't want to eat vegan around his friends and his dad stuck to the agreement that he and his wife had made. Definitely a power tripping vegan
Yeah I agree with you. It's clear her veganism is radical if she's calling her husband an animal abuser over snacks, and her kid straight up threw his dad under the bus out of fear for her reaction.
Yeah she would of definitely guilted her son and would of made him feel terrible it’s probably why he threw his dad under the bus because of fear
I wonder why he so out of touch with this story. Talk with Insane Vegan like this won't do anything good.
If don't want straight to divorce, get help from doctor/therapy first .
RSlash is wrong about the 'reaching an agreement'
You can't reason with crazy.
He's had some bad takes in the past, but this one isn't entirely bad, just means he has waaaay too much faith in people
To do the math, his wife/girlfriend is probably a rational and reasonable person. So he might believe most marriages where cheatings not involved, are rational and reasonable
I abhor mafia vegans, so I always have to share this story: My eldest is a vegan. Her food choice is not political, nor environmental. She has simply never liked the taste of any meat (You have to trust me on this one...trying to get a three year old to eat chicken nuggets should be a no-brainer!). Two years ago, we scattered my father's ashes and had a huge family gathering. One of the weekend nights, I asked her to choose a restaurant for all of us to eat together. She chose a steakhouse. After dinner, I asked her why she chose that. Her response, "The rest of the family enjoys meat. I had a great salad!"
your daughter sounds like a great person.
I have many friends who're vegan, They don't mind be at bbq party/friend gathering and help with preparing food(only Veggies ofc) , eat at the same table. Just don't mix cook/tableware with them.
I've been a vegetarian for 24 years. I'm also a chef. Regular one, I do events like concerts and whatnot. Everyone is always surprised that I still cook meat. I'm good at it🤷♂️
I used to work at a pizza parlor with 2 vegetarians. 1 went vegetarian because she ate healthier without meat, the other had a lisa simpson moment and even went vegan while working there. Half the time i forgot they were vegetarian. Especially when myself and another got bored so we challenged each other, he took a shot of frank's red hot and i ate 2 anchovies. I asked the vegetarian if she would to choose the anchovies because she would neutral, and i thought she would pick smaller ones. Nope, she picked the 2 biggest fillets she could find.
This is so sweet, you raised your daughter right❤
Story 3: NTA. There's no talking or negotiating with a vegan that uses the card "animal abuse enabler" against their own family at the drop of a hat. The kid shouldn't be made to go through being vegan when they don't really want to.
And the funny thing is, some vegans will commit actual animal abuse by forcing pets vegan. Emphasis on some, not all.
@@blizzardgaming7070to the some group: they are Hypocrites to the highest level
A kid should never be vegan... The human body absorbs nutrients (found both in meat and plants) about 15x more from meat than veggies and there's a few nutrients that are only found in meat. I'm fine with adults being vegan even if a lot of them look unhealthy AF but leave the god damn kids alone!!!!!
@@blizzardgaming7070"theveganteacher"
I've, unfortunately, only met the militant vegans of the world. I know sensible ones are out there but they seem more rare than unicorns at this point lol
Vegan story - Let's be honest here, rSlash, that wife was not open to even a fraction of a possibility of letting anyone be non-vegan in that house. The second you go from "I don't like that so I won't do it" to screaming that someone is enabling abuse because they got a particular type of candy, or didn't scold the child for getting a hamburger, there's absolutely no way back. Be honest, do you SERIOUSLY think things would have gone better if OP went "Hey, I want our son to eat what he likes."
I won't say this is exactly abuse, but that woman is forcing her child to do things he doesn't want to, and screaming bloody murder because her husband doesn't agree with her. There is no calm conversation to be had when THAT is the default reaction.
It is 100% psychological abuse... The kid is terrified of his mom's reaction. Hence why he threw is father under the bus when his mom confronted them! Also a kid shouldn't be on a vegan diet period... The human body is meant to be omnivore and barely absorbs most nutrients that are found in both meat and plants when they're coming from a plant lol
Maybe not abuse, but it’s def manipulative
@@mashonem No, it's abuse. Consider the fact that the child was so scared, he threw his own FATHER under the bus to avoid taking the heat of the punishment. Also, manipulation is a form of abuse. She is forcing a child, a literal CHILD to eat her way and not allowing him to make his own decisions. This is going to cause him to develop food anxiety and general eating disorders because he's going to grow up confused as to whether or not it's right to make choices for HIMSELF.
@@agentmaryland1239 mental abuse is abuse
Yeah, definitely abuse. Kid is scared of his mom and is gonna develop an eating disorder at this rate…
Parents: "Leaving you boys behind is the hardest decision we made."
OP: **Laughs at their faces and called them out**
Also Parents: "wHy aRE YoU sO cRuEL??"
Get a clue, A-holes.
They did leave them in the safest place
If they felt remorse for their actions, their lives likely would’ve gone further down the rabbit hole. Instead they spent over two decades care free and whatever steps they took to improve themselves, was not due to OP nor his brother.
@@tashacooper1753a hospital is not safe. Had they not had the parent's passport information and contacted the embassy, the kids would have been placed elsewhere. Hospitals cannot keep patients indefinitely unless otherwise.
@@yabe-kfptentacultist in America that’s where they want you to leave babies you don’t want
@@tashacooper1753 True, but America isn't a third-world country. If they were somewhere with less-than-stellar facilities, who knows where they would have ended up if the authorities hadn't found their extended family. They'd have probably ended up in a terrible orphanage or something.
I don't think the husband in the vegan story is wrong. Talking to someone like that isn't going to result in anything different than it would if he didn't talk to her. As long as the son isn't eating unhealthily, he should be able to decide how he wants to eat. Plus one parent can't/shouldn't be able to stop the son from making his own decisions on something minor like this because of their personal choices
Honestly the fact he's not allowed to make his own food choices is probably going to lead to him eating unheathily because this is just teaching him to have an unhealthy relationship with food in the future. Ik, I wasn't allowed to not like food as a kid now that I'm an adult I have unhealthy eating habits and an unhealthy relationship with food.
I feel like divorce and OP getting full custody is on the horizon.
@@AdorableFloof1999- Yeah, fair point there. This is begging for an ED to form in the son. The mother needs a reality check.
Just because he gets an AH score doesn't mean he's wrong. You can be right and still be an AH in some way. He still should have tried to talk to her instead of going behind her back, that's the only reason he got a 0.5/5 score. They're still married parents, so they still need to talk things out. If he did so and she still reacted the same, then it would be a clear NTA, and she would get a higher score for being unreasonable. Also, we don't know if this is regular behavior from her, or just lashing out in anger because she feels betrayed. Not all vegans are crazy.
RSlash: OP you're in the wrong for making a decision about your kid without your wife
The wife: *makes a unilateral decision for the whole family without consulting anyone and emotionally terrorizes anyone who disagrees*
Poor Dabney isn't in the wrong, he just sometimes has too much good faith in other people.
maybe he think there is a minor possibility that the wife will be reasonable ( which she is not), but to discussing this will prove it. if she blow up regardless then she is a just a big asshole, but if she agrees then there's no problem at all.
@@ArcanineEspeonand sometimes the opposite
@@end_slayer Yeah it's like he's human or something.
Not to mention, it isn’t a “parenting” decision. The kid already eats meat on his own accord. Like would they just force the kid? You could try to convince the mother but I doubt she would fold.
Story 4: Your husband seem to make a lot of reckless decisions when he's drunk, trying to go party with a group a people he doesn't know, and dark drunk swimming are terrible ideas. The fact that from what it sounds like everyone agrees with you, is probably why he was upset, his wife was stopping him as if he was a child, and everyone saw.
And RSlash made a valid point if husband always makes stupid decisions while intoxicated? I wouldn’t be surprised if he made poor decisions while sober?
Honestly, OP and his brother aren't being cruel ENOUGH.
They were abandoned in a foreign country and found by the rest of the family by SHEER LUCK, and were also lucky enough to be raised by a loving family. Things could've gone SO MUCH WORSE for them!
These two parents are lucky that OP and the brother even allow some contact at all.
Story#2: OP's husband shouldn't have sex if he can't handle seeing menstrual products.
Story#3: The kid is 12 yo and should be allowed to feel comfortable with his friends. The mom is controlling.
You literally cannot reason with people on things they consider to be moral issues.
Story two: and heaven forbid OP ever becomes pregnant
Your husband and his friend are not adults if they’re complaining about menstrual pads. I was like 9 or 10 when my mother explained periods to me.
Hasn’t he done this story before?
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072It was a father who got pissy over his daughter having pads in the trash
I was older and learned about it in biology, but my mom and sister certainly never hid their pads or anything from me.
Those men need to seriously grow up
I wish RSlash had at least added an “but on a serious note” commentary after that joke because how can we even be sure whose side he’s really on in this matter? Without clearer context on whose side he’s on, I’m treating it as a bad take. OP is NTA.
The germaphobe.. he needs to get a therapist asap, speaking from personal experience. I wouldn’t say he’s a butthole at all, because literally it’s his house his rules. But OCD can either creep up slowly or straight out of left field. And it warps your perceptions of what’s typical and what can be considered excessive worry.
He’s not doing anything “wrong” by simply asking people to not dirty up his house. But what he’s considering dirty seems to be shifting in an unhealthy direction.
^^^^^^^hes nta but yeah therapy would be great
-someone w ocd who went to therapy
Yeah, I can say that I have the exact same problem and I go to therapy. But it's also a bit of a cultural thing for me. I grew up in an Asian household where we have house clothes. But yeah, I don't tell my guests to change. I only tell them to take off their shoes.
Yep, same here. For me it started similar to this guy too, slowly and little by little so you don't even notice that's it's become unreasonable until it gets to the extreme. So I agree, nta as he can't control what his brain is telling him, it genually seems reasonable to him, but he defs needs therapy asap.
Covid made me more squeamish about street clothes. If I go to the doctor or ride on transit, I’ll change when I get home. I will sit on my living room furniture in clothes I’ve worn out n public, but I won’t even sit on my bed for a second. I do have an anxiety disorder and have had problems with OCD. I think my behavior is okay, although I’m a little germaphobic. Asking guest to don protective clothing or change is taking a little far unless they work with something germy, smelly, gross, etc. I’d recommend therapy and possibly medication.
Thank you. This is what I was thinking. They set the rules. It is clear that they help but in no way were they an asshole. In fact it sounds like the friend was warned AHEAD OF TIME cause OP said "when I actually enforced it" so the guy KNEW the rules, came over, and then wanted to ignore them. That "friend" deserves a 2/5 AH score frfr. Like I get it feels unreasonable but that is for sure not how you go about telling them. If your friend was like "Hey no outside food in my house" and you went "alright" then got there and ordered a pizza or pulled snacks out your pockets you suck. Yeah the rule is weird but you agreed and then broke the rules. Honestly if I was him I would be GLAD that dude just took off rather than continue to disrespect me.
Story 1: the rest of your family wasn't abandoned at the hospital in a foreign country where anything could have happened to you. Of anything shouldn't they be more upset that they came back after the two of you are adults demanding a relationship, did they even pay back the money they stole? If they want sympathy for abandoning two newborns in a foreign country, then get it from anyone except the two people in the world that was more affected than they could have ever been.
I was with you until "get then try fishing forehead." What?
Yea and on top of that no apology
@@ArcanineEspeon- I’m guessing it’s an autocorrect flub. Maybe “fishing for ”. Sympathy would be the most likely ‘something’, but idk how you go from that to ‘head’, unless their keyboard just outright stopped functioning for a bit (like mine does sometimes on this old iPad…).
@@ArcanineEspeon, I guess OP changed it by now, but I liked that so I'm gonna use _"try fishing forehead"_ as an insult from now on! :-D
The guy with the story about the germs and furniture really has OCD.
Look at this comment from him: It can't be impossible to keep it sterile. I scrub it with bleach and chlorine mixtures every day. And I mean everywhere I can possibly reach. I also have an air sterilizer. Plus I wipe down the toilet and spray a bunch of air freshener after every time I use it. Do I need to buy special machinery or something?
I dont see the problem
I try to avoid messing other people houses and follow their house rules
This guy just wants to keep his house clean and even went out of his way to accomedate People who didnt bring their clothes with by buying raincoats for them
Its totally reasonable rule imo
@@DubiousFINi mean yes, but one thing is Washing your hands and using a bag for your foot and another is using a full suit
@@DubiousFIN that’s what I’m saying it’s his house so who cares he’s trying to accommodate the people that don’t want to follow the rules
@@M12230He's the one who created the dumb rules in the first place though, so he's responsible for *that*.
@@M12230It is _very_ unhealthy to be so focused on keeping things clean. That's why it is a mental illness and needs to be treated. You can't and shouldn't try to eradicate all germs in your surroundings. Not only is it impossible, it can be harmful.
We, as humans, are a walking biosphere. We have a microbiome that's unique to us. Inside and outside. Trying to eliminate bacteria around us, runs the risk of giving bad, more resilient bacteria, a foothold.
Not to mention that a sterile environment, and all those cleaning products, increase the risk of developing allergies. He could literally be giving himself asthma from the constant bleaching alone.
I dont agree with the parents in the first story getting 5/5 AH scores
They deserve 10/5 AH
Make it a million
Make it a googolplex
no no no they deserve a100/5 AH at the absolute minimum
So, how do you think R/Slash will fight y'all? Maybe a tournament? I wanna go watch it!
No that's reserved for menstruation
Germ story definitely sounds like the manifestation of OCD. Intrusive and obsessive thoughts about germs that's affecting your daily life is really serious. I hope op gets help
For the story where hubby was waiting for the price to drop to buy plane tickets. This is a tip from someone who flies frequently to people who haven't flown before. If at all possible, do not purchase tickets close to your fly out date and do not purchase them during the holidays. The further in advance you purchase your tickets, the less expensive they will be. The closer to when you leave, the more expensive they will be. This is because as it gets closer to when you plan to leave, the planes are starting to fill up and have fewer and fewer seats, so they charge more for the seats they have left
Second to last story: My family has this practice, but we don't make guests change out of their clothes. We just put sheets over the couches. Anything that isn't plush just gets wiped down later. Shoes get taken off, though. That's both a germ thing and just a sign of respect.
And no mud or grime on the floors.
So a raging vegan mom and a reluctantly vegetarian dad ought to have a conversation with their emerging omnivore 12 year old son. There is no winning scenario there that doesn't involve dad and son moving out. Perhaps separation or divorce.
Dont forget the dad frying up steaks again once he escapes the religious cult
@@quillo2747 what are you talking about? Are you referencing another story?
@@ArcanineEspeonhe’s calling veganism a religious cult
Agreed. There's no saving a sinking ship with too many holes.
@@sarahkinsey5434 I thought maybe, but I was confused because it kind of sounded like Quillo was talking about something that already happened.
For Story one I'm not entirely sure what the bio-parents thought would happen they were gone for over 20 years
They likely thought the kids would be able to magically live their own life’s no problem
They thought about their future and realized they were going to die alone. Their delusional brains thought those kids would just forgive them, and actually care about them.
Last story: I think the husband didn't want to go to New Orleans and was being a passive-aggressive jerk. "Waiting for the prices to go down" hasn't been a thing since the 90s.
as far I know, closer the travel date, higher the ticket price
Probably didn't actually have the days either.
they go down, in the off-season when nobody want to vacation there. the 3 days between post new years and pre- mardigras.
@@tehevilengineer7939not if you already have the days booked, they don't.
if you CHOOSE off-season the prices will be lower than on-season, but not a single flight company would ever lower their prices the closer you buy from the date.
I'm pretty sure the husband never flew nor knew everyone who ever got on a plane; OR he was mallicious about not wanting to go. There's no way anyone who dealt with flying doesn't know the sooner you buy the tickets, the cheaper they are.
I'm not from the US, and in our family/friendgroup we try to buy tickets at least 4 months beforehand to not waste money with the price skyrocketing; because it can be the difference between (the equivalent of) a US$90 flight or paying US$580 for the same flight.
(personal experience with me buying tickets and someone else waiting last minute to buy them)
@@bella-rolland Not always the case, but we need to be talking likely 5+ months out for prices to go down rather than only upward. There are apps that track that sort of thing, and if you watch closely, airline tickets fluctuate RIDICULOUSLY when the flight is that far out.
"Where you're supposed to retreat to your woman hut where you won't corrupt men with your unclean touch"
Hawaiian culture, that's EXACTLY what happened. There was literally a period hut, bro, Dabney, you were exactly on point 😂😑
I think India did that, too (they might still do that in some parts).
Pretty sure Dabney knows the reality, which is where he came up with it.
Last story: I thought plan tickets prices go up the more last minute they are. Your husband took a Gamble and lost, but instead of just eating it he tried to get you to waste your money so he wouldn't have to waist his's. Screw him he did this to himself now you enjoy your vacation.
That's correct, plane tickets cost more the closer you get to the date.
you can get them a little cheaper but you have to both book at weird times( when they don't expect people to be shopping for work or vacation flights) and fly at weird times and routes
I just don't understand how some people can't wrap their heads around the idea that no diet is for everyone. Our bodies are different!
Feels like they think that all non vegans should die out, like if they can't be vegan, then that means they shouldn't live at all, which is what I'm getting from these crazy vegans. Of course not all vegans are like this, but you know, the extreme ones speak the loudest.
I laugh when people say that shit. “Oh, leaving you was a very difficult choice and I live with that guilt everyday.”
Yet they’re living their lives, as if they don’t regret their decision at all
Story 3: What OP's wife fails to recognize is that not everyone is comfortable with a vegan lifestyle, and she can't force them.
Now, considering her behavior, I don't think trying to have a conversation with the wife would work, she'd just go on some "Animal Abuse Enabler" rant the SECOND OP starts to suggest letting the kid have something non-vegan
This is literally why people don't like vegans.
Isn't this abuse? You can't force someone to have the same diet as you. Aren't also vegans notoriously malnourished because they get less protein and fat than non vegans. By OPs wife trying to make her son vegan she's just malnourishing him which will probably effect his growth.
Militant vegans are the worst.
I don't have a problem with vegans, as Long as they don't get religious about it, and push their belives on to others.
@@darkmask5933 That and also the human body does not nearly absorb as much nutrients from plants than meat (around 70% vs 5-10%). There's also a few nutrients that are only found in meat that help prevent quite a few body dysfunctionalities lol
@@XarosaiHumans can live, and thrive, on a vegetarian diet. Even vegan if they are thorough with their research. The issue is when they start to make false claims and pushes their conviction onto others.
Story 6: Okay, so I don't know if the same thing applies to plane tickets, but the hotel I went to a few times has a small price increase as not only are the rooms about to be sold out, but how much time there is between booking and check-in.
So this husband thinking that plane ticket prices magically dropping close to departure time is just stupid. If he was trying to make OP stay at home, then OP *REALLY* needed that vacation away from him, but if he was just an idiot, I don't really know where he got that logic from
Plane tickets pretty much never go down. Last time I flew I booked about 7 months in advance, $129 round trip. The day before I looked just out of curiosity, would have cost me $450.
Plane tickets always go up the closer you get to the date. That husband was clueless or malicious.
Planes, buses, trains, motels, even rental cars all go up the closer to the date needed. That's why it's always a good idea to reserve/pre-book anytime you know you'll be travelling and require things like lodging and transportation.
Either he sabotage the vacation on purpose or he’s actually that incompetent. He should’ve just paid the 3K for the two tickets. If you have the money and spending it doesn’t break the bank, just do it.
And the earlier you book a flight, the cheaper the tickets. I think he tried to sabotage the trip. I’ve heard this story before and spouse kept blowing up OPs phone until she turned it off. Afterwards she had some angry messages from him.
I personally think he tried to sabotage it from the get-go. The longer you wait the more expensive plane tickets get, I feel like a lot of people know that by now. Plus, he was told months in advance that he literally had 2 jobs. Take time off, get the tickets. Everything else fell on his wife’s shoulders, and he suddenly just wants her to cancel all her planning and stay home..
Definitely sabotage.
5:11 I wouldn't mind hearing their backstory about how they go Petty, with the defeat of Parry, The Platypus. Because they truly got Doofenshmirtz 'd. 5 out of 5 might be light for them, though I do think it is adequate enough for now.
Wow, a vegan trying to force everyone around them to be vegans too. Reminds me of the family telling their neighbors to close their windows when they cook meat because they can smell it.
She sort of reminds me of the vegan teacher the fact that she’s being insane and yelling around to be vegan and forcing others to be vegan just sounds like something she’d do
It genuinely feels like most of the outspoken vegans do it for a sense of superiority. If you want to go vegan for the animals, go for it. Just don't try to aggressively change the opinions of others, because it does more harm than good to your cause.
@@guywholikesgoodmusic it’s virtue signaling. There’s a lot of it going on these days.
Vegan wife story: Rslash, talking wouldn't have done anything. OP's wife would've just freaked out like she did in this story. She's basically becoming one of those animal rights activists that call meat eaters murderers and animal abusers for eating meat not being able to understand that what happens to animals now is better than the alternatives. There was no way talking to her would've gone well and OP made the right choice eitherway
I now agree with you. It makes sense to me.
My mother and her siblings were all abandoned as children by my insane grandparents in France. They were separated and some grew up in orphanages or abusive foster families because my great-grandparents couldn't care for them all. It ruined my mother's life and she never really recovered
For the last story, he's definitely trying to make her stay home with him. I really don't believe anyone do this if they didn't have another motive.
And also, he just smoothly *suggested* that they just stay home with him and not go on the vacation then got surprised that she actually went.
Whatever happened to actually talking to your wife that you don't wanna go on the vacation
Story 1 is similar to Francine's story in American Dad. When she was a baby her mom and dad were getting on a plane and the gate agent says
"Sorry, children aren't allowed in 1st class"
Francine's bio mom hands her to the gate agent and says "here can you take this for us?" And then says to her husband while they're walking onto the flight without baby francine, "oh thank goodness for a second there I thought that was gonna be a problem".
Then they continued on to live their lives.
Seems like an outrageous story for laughs. But op's bio parents literally did exactly that....
there's a place close to me that's been turned into a man made lake for swimming. The lake used to be a MASSIVE quartz mine, so it is extremely deep, and the edges are very sharp + slippery when wet. The place is called a death trap because drunk people would swim there, and drown or accidentally cut something and panic. the 4th OP was trying to save the husbands life, because god knows that that man could have very easily died, and no one could have helped him. I would NOT trust someone so reckless with their own life to start a family with, if they're willing to risk their life just for some temporary fun then I wouldn't even wanna think what he'd do in the future.
The story about the germaphobe forcing guests to change their clothes reminds me so much of my own mother... Except my mother is worse about it and it's about "smells" instead of germs.
I do a job that requires me to go into people’s houses and I just had a client who said I was not allowed to wear anything with any type of scent, my clothing could not smell like fabric softener etc. They had other odd requirements… one of those highly eccentric families.
y don't they just put a washable fabric cover over the furniture? problem solved lol
Giving up kids for adoption is a hard decision to make. Abandoning them without making any arrangements for them isn't hard, it's despicable! They left the twin babies not knowing if they would be split up, if they would spend their entire childhood in an orphanage or be adopted by horrible people, fall into the hands of trafficers, live on the streets. It was pure luck that the kids were brought to their family, despite what the parents did!
With that first story, I KNEW O.P wasn’t the A-hole! Op deserves negative a-holes, Dabney read my mind! 5 out of 5 a-holes for the parents!
Story 2: tell your husband that the box is not going to kill his friend. This isn't Pre-K an adult man should at least be able to see them without panicking.
No it’s not, and women shouldn’t be ashamed or anything. However, I do think she shouldn’t of left it on the counter, simply because it’s not her house therefore, she can’t just leave her stuff lying around.
its like freaking out over a roll of toilet paper. how juvenile.
Right on the box it says you can go swimming, bike riding, play tennis and do other sorts of fun stuff!
@@VengeanceRemixthey were on vacation, the apartment was for a vacation, it was no ones home all three were renting it. So does your logic include Hotel rooms too, cuz thats what the apartment basically was.
So what she has to keep them hidden in her suit case? She has to carry a suit case or bag to the bathroom every time?
Why is it okay to have a box of pads in the bathroom at home but not on vacation?
Why does a woman have to hide period products from a man at all? Why are men so afraid of periods?
@@BVBGirl-3313It's just consideration vs TMI. She doesn't have to hide them shamefully but it's like leaving your hemorrhoid cream or condoms or underwear lying out in the open. It's awkward for people nor in the same household.
I honestly can't think of any reason where abandoning your child in a foreign country, without contacting anyone about it to boot, would be a better alternative than... well, anything.
I agree with rslash on the first story. They would literally be in jail if they had actually been cause before those 10 years were up.
The wife quite literally revealed exactly why a conversation and son telling her what he wants, would not solve anything. She's lashing out calling them animal abusers and evil. You really think them telling her upfront 'I dont wanna be vegan' would solve anything, when she lashes out as intensely as a kid coming out?
No need to edit this out, as this isn't one of those 'I'm going against my own advice' or 'boundaries are bad now' takes. More a 'I have a bit too much faith in people' takes.
What kind of parents abandoned twins in in a foreign country just wrong
in a hospital is better than on the streets. the parents suck 100% but would the twins have been better off with the drug addict parent or in a hospital. and babies are dead weight if you don't want them.
@@ShikiSenriisminestill sad
@@ShikiSenriisminethe parents could have taken them home and asked family to help...the right way
i'm sad to say that there is a right way and a wrong way to abandon your kids and fuck did these trash humans choose the wrong way.
What people would call a hot take
For story 3 the correct thing to do is get a divorce and without the mother having access to unsupervised visits
I'm sorry rslash, but that vegan story is a no go. The dad shouldn't have gotten the ahole score at all. I dont believe in forcing your children to be vegan because of YOUR beliefs. If they wanna choose when they're old enough to understand, then that's fine. But don't force your beliefs on your kids. And sitting down and talking with the wife wouldnt have done anything. She wouldve just freaked out, as she already did.
Totally agree
Yep
The vegan wife are also the types that will force their pets to be vegan as well and wouldn't think that is abusing animals
It’s a bad take, but it’s the most mild bad take he’s had of late
Still, adding another tally to the board
“Rslash AITA bad takes in a row”
@@P.ParamoForcing kids and educating are different and I’m concerned you don’t understand that. You should teach both point of views and not parade your kid around as a pawn.
Story 1:
I think about the 9 children that I lost, and I think about the 2 beautiful children that made it. I can’t find words in any language that could describe how this story and others like it, make me feel. All I can say is the egg and sperm donors are extremely lucky to be able to meet these fine young people 25 years later.
Story 3:
Why did he not mention the fact that the *parents* said "We decided our son should be vegan"
What the fuck. That's not normal or healthy.
Let's be real, the father only agreed to keep his wife happy.
1st story. The parents did them a favor. Who knows what life they would have had if they took them. Probably sold them for drug money or worse.
I agree it's better that they didn't keep them or their lives could be far worse. Too many parents have done this before
I just want to say something about the swimming story, it’s actually a lot more dangerous than most people think or realize. So in fresh water, warm lakes hot springs etc. there is actually a bacteria that exists in those places that a lot of people don’t realize. So say you drunkenly do a cannon ball or dive into the lake at one point thinking “oh itll be fun!!!” That bacteria can get into your nose and swim up to your brain and just like a zombie it starts eating your brain matter. It can be deadly and fatal. Scary to think about.
*intentionally disagrees just to meet and throw hands with Dabney* 😂😂
The guy in the 5th story definetly has OCD. I also have it and that's why I don't think he deserves more than 1/5 buttholes. What he did was 100% wrong, but he clearly just needs therapy
I also have OCD, I agree he definitely has OCD. While I do sympathize with his struggle, I don't think that excuses his response. 2/5 buttholes. If he was like I know I'm being difficult or unreasonable, but can't help it, I'd go 0.5/5. But this guy thinks he is right, so he needs help cause he not living in real world.
He's not going to understand that what he's doing is not normal if everyone tells him it's OK.
He told the guy beforehand that its a house rule and the guy ignored him, thinking it was a joke. Its his home and he has every right to enforce his rules in his home, even if its OCD related. Him and his family don't make a fuss over it so why does he have to change his own home for the convince of others who will visit less than 24 hours.
Sure he should go to therapy if he's not going, but IMO everyone should be going to therapy because the brain is an organ that needs check ups as often as the rest of our organs. But telling someone how to live in their own home because their rules are inconvenient to you is messed up. If you don't like their rules, don't go to their place. Don't go to their place and tell them their rules are silly and get mad when they tell you to leave. Thats so disrespectful
@@thebaregentleman2570 Yeah that's my point, I do understand him but he was still wrong. That's why he needs therapy, because he doesn't understand it's wrong. It's just hard to give a butthole score to someone that is mentally ill but technically not hurting anyone. He is in the wrong, but it's also not completely his fault.
@@nicolegoodew1547 This seems to be a recent thing if all his friends aren't aware. So, would you believe if your friend suddenly told you that you need to wear a gas mask in his home as you two are going towards it, or would you think he's messing with you? And then when you get to his home, you are presented with a full on military gas mask because you might just spread your germs in his home and that's unacceptable. Oh, you don't really need to wear it outside tho, because it only matters inside the home! So are you gonna be disrespectful and leave because of how ridiculous it is, or are you just gonna accept wearing the gas mask for the duration of your stay?
the wife has no control over her sons choice to be vegan or not, the kid is old enough to know they don't want to be vegan
As someone who got abandoned by only *one* parent I can say that throwing their attempts to apologize in their face with "And how the eff did that help ME?!" was perfectly justified. That OP in story one got abandoned in another country by *both* parents gives him the right to say whatever he feels like to his progenitors.
To the germ story guy: buy chair and sofa cover and wash them after your friends leave. Don't be silly
Agreed. Maybe this is just a product of how I was raised, but you don't invite someone to your house if you're just going to make them uncomfortable by forcing them to change clothes or wear a ridiculous plastic body suit. Everybody has germs and bacteria all the time and no one can be completely sterile all the time. Dude needs therapy.
OP has OCD. I agree with your suggestion. Even draping a sheet or blanket over the couch should be fine, but this behavior screams OCD. There’s being germaphobic, and there’s pathological. I sympathize, as I’ve had problems off and on myself. I fear it’ll get worse rather than better without professional intervention.
right??? wtf lol. i have those same concerns since the pandemic. that is literally how i would handle it. i wouldn't force guests to shower or change their clothes lol
The "changing into different clothes" story is like a mix of me and my best friend. I always change clothes when I come home from e.g. work. But I don't have the same sort of OCD that my best friend has; I have seen it affecting her daily life a lot. She does a deep cleanse after work by going into the shower, washing her hair, scrubbing her skin, changing all her clothes, all the works before she is able to settle down in her own home. She also can't use public bathrooms like most people do (she has a severe phobia of germs), and she has to count how many times she checks locks or stoves or other appliances being turned off. I do some of these things but if I have mild OCD, hers is SEVERE.
Story two: at first i was like, okay yeah shared place you shouldnt leave used pads where you can see the blood. Wrap them up and hide them cause no one wants to see blood.... BUT NO!!! ITS UNUSED PADS!!!
Bro if you cant handle seeing UNUSED sanitary products YOU are the one that needs to find accomadations, not everyone else.
Living here in New Orleans I can confirm prices are outrageous. The cancellation fees for what she got would be at minimum half if not 3/4 of what she already paid depending on which hotel. It would've probably cost more than both plane tickets combined to cancel the trip.
If she wants to give her son an eating disorder, thats definitely a way to do it. Hoarding and hiding food is already a warning sign.
The thing I like about Rslash is his titles arent click baity, sometimes they're understatements.
One of my favorite RSlash phrases is "This is why I don't like to give out 5 out of 5 buttholes!"
Vegan Storey: dad is not the AH. From the story, it's clear how the mom would have reacted had he tried to have the conversation on the front end. It wouldn't have been a conversation at all. Drunk husband story: husband is an AH, clearly, and probably needs to stop drinking. The wife is also the AH. Not for stopping him from jumping in the lake, but for the last bit. He didn't do it and after he got back, she thought it was a great idea to pull a clearly drunk person into the house to 'force him to have a conversation' before going to bed. That isn't the time to try and have that conversion. In what world do you think, this guy is so intoxicated he is seriously thinking of swimming in a lake, but I need to have a any sort of legit conversation with him, right now, before I go to bed. That's dumb. He's drunk, won't process it, and can only end up in problems. Either it's an argument or he says something drunkenly that will hurt your feelings, and he wouldn't even remember the conversation anyway.
A normal person would have waited until the morning and have that conversation. Let him know the things he was doing while intoxicated and have the conversion about getting help, or stop drinking, etc. The reason he is acting like Everything is OK and nothing happened is because he probably doesn't even remember it.
Clearly he needs help and deserves an AH score, but OP was completely sober, trying to argue with a person that is completely hammered, and is angry he didn't respond the way she wanted when she forced him inside to confront him. She gets an AH score as well.
Excellent point.
About the drunk-in-the-lake story: I agree with you, that the wife’s choice to talk to her very drunk husband about his bad decision wasn’t smart, because he’s still too wasted to think rationally. She deserves a VERY low asshole score IMO, like .5/5. I understand, she was extremely pissed at him for being so stupid, and was probably still hot about that. The conversation really needed to wait until the next day, when he’s sober. The conversation also needs to include that maybe he should stop drinking, because he’s likely to endanger himself again while he’s drunk.
It always cracks me up when he says SEE YA
About the germ story. He can buy a light disinfectant solution to spray on the clothes. Instead of washing he can just have guests spray themselves.
“If anyone has anything to say about the 5/5 score, fite me”
Should have made it 6 out of 5
Story 1 - NTJ(erk).
Story 2 - NTJ (also, that sarcastic verdict was hilarious 😆).
I don't think that because someone chooses to go vegan, that they should force their children to be vegan as well. Be vegan if you want, but behavior like that is what has given veganism the issue it has now (like vegans looking down on non-vegans and acting superior). The kid was old enough to make his own choice, and he made it. He doesn't want to be vegan. Mom should respect that.
Story One: The only way I could POSSIBLY fight you on the 5/5 Butthole score is with the Spinal Tap GIF, "This one goes up to eleven."
Story Two: Seriously OP's friend was aware he was traveling with a woman & knows they do that from time to time, NTA.
Ironically, I was listening to an audiobook called Stormweaver where a kid gets abandoned by his parents due his phybrosis (flesh turns to bone) on another planet.
But yeah, first story NTA, they need to hear it and feel shame.
Story 2. From the title I thought it was used pads, and i was thinking, its probably best they are wrapped in toilet paper so no blood shows and placed in the bin. But nope, it was the packet, as if it was sitting in the supermarket.
That's what I was assuming too. And the way the woman talked made me think it was one of those things where there's blood and she's confused and a bit angry why the men don't want to touch it or see it. Like again, that's not hygienic and I wish people would see it like I do. It's just the same if someone got sick or had a bathroom accident.
That being said, the guy seeing the box is a different story. It's ridiculous.
I think this is a rare 10 out of 5 bh to the parents
As a former athlete, that son needs to be eating a lot more protein than what, I assume, the mom is providing in a vegan diet. My body couldn’t sustain how much exercise I was doing because of how little protein I was getting despite eating a bunch of tofu, beans, etc. I couldn’t start eating primarily vegan/vegetarian options until after I graduated university and finished my athletic career.
Story 3: why don’t newly vegan parents ask if their kids if their kids want to be vegan?
What do you expect? These people even force their pets to be vegan. They remove sections of their brains that involves critical thinking
Yeah, exactly. I'm vegetarian through I've been one since birth. But I absolutely hate parents who force their kids to be vegan.
the ones who do respect their children as real individual people. those that just make such decisions for their kids often view their children as extensions of themselves or like a pet that can talk.
Because that would imply the kids have a choice. It’s their way or nothing. It’s sad, pathetic, and abusive.
The drunk swimming story. I know a guy who is like that. When he drinks its almost like a life goal to make the dumbest decisions possible.
Sadly the story screams misogyny, cause with my buddy im stern with him. Always tell him how much of a fool he was and he often thanks me from stopping him.
Story 3: i am vegetarian, no meat, no fish. But i would never force my choice upon anyone, kids should choose themselves. I do not understand this whole forcing diet upon other people.
For that last story, there are plenty of travel sites that you can book your flights through that will adjust the final price to what the cheapest price was after you booked but before the flight. I think the husband just didn't want to go.
First story: "Wow... They even had the f*cking audacity to play the "it was hard for us to leave you" card. Seriously, why the rest of the family allowed them back.
Story 4: living with someone who is an alcoholic. It’s so hard to try to talk or rationalize with someone when they’re drunk. They will think what they’re doing isn’t doing any harm when in reality it is. Then when sober will try to play the victim about it. I’ve dealt with this issue for years with my dad. The final straw was when he got so drunk he almost fell on top of me and my infant son. (We inherited my grandparents home). I told him the next day that if he ever gets like that again or even drinks around us that we will leave and I will move out with my son and have NC until he is actually sober. He told me that if I did that, it would break his heart. I said that maybe that’s the wake up call that he needs then. It ended up being the wake up call he needed. He has been sober going on 2 months now and just recently told me how he didn’t realize until after getting sober how much he relied on shooters.
Story 1: You forgot the people trying to push OP to apologize. They also deserve a butthole score IMO.
I'd say 2-3 buttholes, for defending those bio-parents.
The wife going to Nola by herself was so not the AH. EVERYONE knows that plane ticket prices don't go down, they only go up!
Another story about a vegan who makes their diet everone else's problem...I don't think 2.5 is enough for her, not only is she controlling, judgemental, abusive, and given how easily she bought into propaganda I'm gonna say not all that smart either. I couldn't see myself in a relationship with a person like that, divorce might be in their future.
6:21 10/5??? Are you kidding me? For leaving clean pads in the bathroom??
rSlash seriously wtf is wrong with you?
A crime like that deserves 20/5
First story: Those parents aren’t a five out of five. This is a 1000 out of five! Alright Rslash you said if anyone disagrees you will fight them so here I am! ✊😠✊
I think that avoiding child and spouse abuse is more important than avoiding animal abuse in the vegan story.
The germ story: even though OP needs therapy, they did inform the friend of what would be needed and expected OP to just let it go when they came over. "They were surprised I actually enforced it" what if OP had severe allergies and this is what was needed? Would the friend still disregard OP's potential life-threatening allergies?
story 2: it depends if they were used or not. if she left unused tampons in the bag, fine, but if she left used bloody tampons on the counter then massive YTA. thats just unsanitary
Finally. Someone gets it. Even though it sounds like they weren't used. So many people say that if a man doesn't want to see it, it's because of "cooties" and seems to forget that if it's used, it's not sanitary. It's the same thing as if someone got sick or had a bathroom accident.
THE PADS WERE STILL PACKAGED
INSIDE A BAG
THATS DESPOSIBLE
OP ISNT THE ASSHOLE
I just have to say, you literally mentioned them avoiding jail time in the story by staying MIA. Can they be sued by OP and his brother or something because right now then getting off with nothing but hate from their boys sucks
*avoiding jailtime.
I'm relating to the "change clothes cuz germs" story hard. We take off our shoes when we go indoors, and many people strip their work clothes immediately because of germs or grime, why is this so odd? I immediately change clothes when I get home because I'm dirty from working and being on the bus and I offer my sister or close friends a change of clothes if we get rained on, dirty or sweaty. It's really nice of OP to offer to do laundry for people. Maybe robes instead of raincoats tho.
I do change my clothes but only after a long day of work. And most of the time, I change from my work clothes to my PJs because I know I'm not going anywhere most likely.
I hate those vegans who have holier than thou attitude. If you don't want to eat animal products its your choice. You can't force a child to follow your diet when they are clearly against it . That's also abuse. and at the end of the day humans are animals so technically you are abusing animals just skipping the eating part.
Someone needs to tell Op about plastic covers for your furniture. Even though mostly only old people still use them to keep their furniture looking good
I think the third OP didn't speak to his wife, because he knew what her response would be (completely unreasonable), so no butthole score I think.
The last story the husband 100% was hoping the wife would cancel and stay home, ticket prices DO NOT go down the closer to you booking date, they go up because you waited till the last minute. He probably never wanted to go and should have just said so in the first place.
I can’t vegans who are so preachy and try to convince/force it on others.
That's most vegans.
They’re pretty unbearable online. Personally, I think they get brain-damaged after a few years of no meat, because meat provides nutrients, like choline, that they can’t get from plants. Their malnutrition distorts their brain function. 🙁
Story 2: “AITA for leaving a wrapped roll of toilet paper in a bathroom?” is a similar enough question. Some people, man…
Story 2: Not gonna lie, I thought the pads were used at first based on the title. But they weren't so uh, NTA.
I agree with RSlash, if you're dangerous to yourself when you are drunk, drink less or don't drink at all.