I'm from Detroit and to this day Captain Rapp's Bad Times is the all time greatest party classic of old schoolers from the 80's. When that song comes on in an old school club nobody is sitting!!!!!
Dial A Freak was a crucial staple...1580 KDAY AM was very instrumental in breaking these records. 1230 KGFJ AM was crucial in terms of bringing the Dr Dre mixes on Sunday very briefly. But KDAY would play the actual Uncle Jamm parties and mixes on the radio years earlier on weekends. Later , KDAY introduced The Mixmaster Show a year or so later. 1580 KDAY was the ONLY radio station that played Funk and Hip Hop 24-7 in the country at which they were extremely instrumental in breaking everybody's records due to the programming advantage and wide territory of LA.
This is awesome indeed. A lot of people don't know the West Coast has a vast history in the hip hop culture. Ice T, W.C. DJ Alladdin World Class Wrecking Kru, Egyptian Lover this has been long overdue. Can't wait for part two. I hope you make a Special Va Edition of the Foundation.
Dope as always! More of a history of LA hip hop, than a history of the entire West Coast (Bay area, Seattle etc...) But I know there's more to come. I've hunted down a lot of the early originals, but now I have a few more to seek out. One love...
I'm glad you put "The Batterram" on here!! One of the greatest, most enduring, influential Hip-Hop classics of all time. Props and respect to the CPT legend Toddy Tee.
✌🏿✌🏿jay!! Lyor Cohen was on The Breakfast Club and Surprisingly he Mentioned Uncle Jamm’s Army. Everything Cohen Said, You Visually Made a Connection To a T. He Name Dropped Run-DMC Opening For Them. THE WEST COAST ARE TRUE INNOVATORS. Respect ✊🏿 to The Pioneers Out West....Sounds of Parliament, ZAPP, Ronnie Hudson, Prince (RIP) Morris Day And The Time Catapulted The Scene. I Stand To Be Corrected though I swear I Heard Early ICE-T On Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis Production.
Tall Israeli (Lyor Cohen) running this rap shit/ Quasi homosexuals running this rap shit- Mos Def. Fuck Lyor 'liar' Cohen he's fucking up hip hop making it satanic and pushing a homosexual musical agenda. Lyor also came up with the 360 deal which is a slave deal that gives records companies a cut from an artists earning inside and outside of music...slavery- fame is the devil's game.
MY DUDE!!!! Always pumped to get a new foundation lesson!!!! They take too long in between BUT they're ALWAYS worth the wait! Keep on doin what you do!!! Much Respect brother!!!!!!
wow I remember my buddy from school loaned me a tape that he had back in 1984 it had all those funky electro rap songs from Cali ice T and Dr Dre of course from the wrecking crew Egyptian lover my fav from that era Soo pure and dope much props from the west coast as well with this funky rap style
"L A DreamTeam, LA Breeze, King.T, Ice.T, Paris, KAM, N.W.A, Lynchmob, MC Eght, Dj Quik...was all I listened too. And I definitely can't forget about Bobby Jimmy and the Critters"😂
Teacher Supreme...HipHop Historian...Rap Musicologist... Jayquan, I am a life long student (& teacher of music)... your work is incredible. Thank you brother.
Don't forget about 1984, 75 Girls records with the great "Too Short" who forever changed West Coast rap with his first EP. Gangsta-Playa rap was here to stay! Ask N.W.A. where there influence's came from! Todd Shaw. You can't have this West Coast Bio without Too Short! The Bay Area is different than the LA scene.
Another quality video brother. Ice T's "Reckless" was the first West Coast record I ever bought. I'm glad it made it into your examples of the first West Coast Rap records to break through! Keep up the EXCELLENT work!
Disco Daddy and Captain Rapp had the first West Coast rap song officially. It was called Giggalo Rap from 1981... just wanted to confirm Jayquans instincts, cause he seemed hesitant to declare it
I covered that song in the piece. I was saying in the piece though, that there are instances of people pressing up a couple hundred copies of a record, and the music ends up in obscurity. But yeah Disco Daddy and Captain Rapp seems to be the first documented. Thanks for looking.
Motorcycle Mike out of Oakland also released Super Rat in 1981. But I'm not sure how widespread it was out of the city. I honestly hasn't heard of him until decades later. The first homegrown rap I remember was $hort around 1984. And that was his stuff on 75 Girls Records...
Thanks, this was another valuable lesson!! 💯 ...I always had a limit knowledge of the early days of West Coast Hip-Hop...this definitely filled-in a lot of gaps!
Also u had Magic Mike And Calvin T n Richmond Ca, u can find them on youtube. Calvin T is 1 of the M.Cs E-40 says his style comes from I remember E-40 first time on rap city giving credit 2 Calvin T. Once E-40 signed with Jive he put out Southwest Riders compilation Calvin T had a track called Bout My Money. 40 tried 2 sign him but Calvin T was n those streets of Richmond. Early works on on youtube , on wax about '83. Mac Dre is a product of a M.C. called The Mac he's also on youtube, look up The Mac the game is Thick with the Prince sample of D.M.S.R.
JayQuan, I've been loving your site for some months now. Bay Area Hip Hop Historian, Davey D, put me up on you. I love every part of what you've been sharing. I'm 46 and grew up a first generation Hip Hopper, born and raised in Oakland. I appreciate your attention to detail and ability to talk about when you first heard all the classic records. As a kid in Oakland, who loved funk, was all in on Hip Hop from Sugar Hill, Kurtis Blow, Funky 4+1, and Spoonie Gee and rooted for my west coast heroes, I was part of the west coast movement that you spoke of. We started with Uncle Jam, Egyptian Lover, Ice-T, World Class Wrecking Crew, Too Short, and Toddy Tee. We cheered when NWA made noise. We rejoiced when Ice Cube got east coast acceptance. We gloated when Dr. Dre, Tupac, and Snoop were running the Hip Hop world. If I'm ever in your area, I'd love to chop it up. Keep up the excellent work and keep it coming. One Love!
DJ Styles I'm 37 and a second generation hip hopper, but I love the old school and it's hella intriguing to know the genesis of westcoast hip hop. I'm from the Bay Area too and until I saw this video I though Too Short was the first westcoast rapper. As a rapper and student of hip hop myself, this is a real treat for me. Thanx JayQuan and keep em comin'!
"West Coast Poplock" was a rip off from "So Ruff So Tuff". He basically took his creative interest. One time I opened for George Clinton and his band went into "For Those That Like To Groove" mashed up with "One Nation Under A Groove"
Mr Unique74 that Ray Parker Jack of “One Nation.” Chic does that when they play “Good Times”, they also play “Another One Bites the Dust” and “Bounce, Rock, Skate”
@TheFoundation Great point about the bass scene. Don't forget, 2 Live Crew is originally from Southern Cali (except Uncle Luke) We really must distinguish L.A. artists from just saying"The West Coast", because that would include Cali, Oregon, and Washington State. Bay Area Cali has it's own history and beginnings (which some say started with Too $hort. But even $hort is originally from the Crenshaw District of L.A.). And then a city like San Diego has it's own history. So, we must be clear about which region we're critiquing. All of the pioneers @JayQuan has featured in this lesson are from the surrounding Los Angeles, Compton, or So.Cal only. Salute to Rappers Rap Disco Co. Label Co., The Unknown DJ, Lonzo Williams, Roger Clayton Sr. (R.I.P), DJ Crazy Toones (R.I.P.)
Dezo Daz...IMPORTANT record and sample at the end! I think Dezo became "YOMO AND MAULKIE" which was locally known legends out there! I think I heard someone mention that...b.u.t. YOU KNOW gotta touch on King Tee and DJ Pooh when You do West Coast??? That is a MUST...they gel'd shit together...especially West finally being heard out East heavily...and NOT TO MENTION...King T has been an "undercover" fav out here because Notorious B.I.G. ADMITTED to copying T's style...I knew that AUTOMATICALLY with that "Baby, BAY-BAY" cry Biggie would do! I heard that FOR YEARS on T's songs!!! Once again...I never left the Jersey Coast to PEEP ALL THIS SHIT going on! lol...
Excellent lesson, I just felt I needed to hear more from Duffy Hooks and the Rappers Rapp Records and Rich Cason. "Radio Activity" is a watershed west coast record. Also the influence of KDAY radio station was a huge West Coast phenom back then. Rappers Rapp Group had perhaps the first white M.C. (DJ FLASH) on thier 1982 hit. King MC (also from R.R.G.) is well regarded by most as a Godfather\pioneer. But this was a great starting point, I really appreciate your research and presentation.
Point taken. KDAY will be covered in part 2. I will speak on Rich Cason, Rappers Rapp - Radioactivity, When Doves Cry etc. Thanks for looking, and thanks for your polite critique!
Yes Motorcycle Mike was Baytown Rap 1981. That should be mentioned in part 2. Also, Jayquan used Egyptian Lover or Arabian Prince's recollection of "some guy called Duffy was doing stuff in L.A." WOW is that misleading. Duffy Hooks was with Bobby Robinson at Enjoy before coming to L.A. He looked for local talent and found Disco Daddy, a solid MC who frequently battled against a man named DJ Tracy (later to be known as ICE T). Hooks signed Disco Daddy in '81 and paired him with Capt. RAPP. Next in November '81, Hooks held a casting call for a 5 man rap group for the next West Coast song, Rappin Partee Groove. The tryouts were held, and he even pick a white guy DJ FLASH for the crew. "Sweeter than sweet, nicer than nice", every Cali hip hop fan knows that intro line. Using the studio right before the R.R.G. did their thing, was the GAP Band, and somehow Hooks and the crew got the GAP Band guitarist to play licks on Rappin Partee Groove which adds to the killer track. Hooks got DJ Tracy (ICE T) next and laid down the coldest rap in 82 or 83. The R.R.G. sensed disco rap was on the outs by 82 and 83, they rebranded as Dark Star, but there album flopped, poor rhymes. As Jayquan astutEly picks up on, Cali went to Electro by late 83. Members of the R.R.G. retooled and got some new blood, they reformed as the Future MC' s. RADIOACTIVITY, BEVERLY HILLS RAP (on the soundtrack no less) are huge West coast markers. "Some guy called Duffy" - What a understatement and misnomer, I can't believe Lover or Prince said that.
yes, DJ FLASH - his videos are fantastic - he was there and knows the history, the labels, the same chronology. Jayquan is paying lip service to the west coast - this is helpful gateway stuff but look by DJ FLASH and that's the detail.
Uncle Jams Army ...Slauson & Western!....They had a record shop there on Slauson & Western back in the day, and that was their plug on the radio station 1580 KDAY (Greg Mack). You could go purchase records and tapes (factory or personal mix tapes where they would say your name on the tape in reverb, so if anyone stole ya tape...you can claim it cuz ya name is said through out the tape[clever])
Would like to say Thanx for this documentary. I grew up during this confusion of hiphop i most definitely gravitated towards the west coast way before the early 90s. It's my vibes that chose to listen to the west coast
I'm from Sacramento CA, and it's dope that The Triple Threat Three got a mention, because they were one of the first of not the first rap groups from Sacramento, CA and influenced rappers such as Brotha Lynch Hung.
You know your hip hop history brother!!! When you put Toddy Tee on I know you did some research! This single was really underground!!! And I didn't even know about that group from Baltimore!
Very interesting video. Another essential part in the arrival of Hip Hop on the West Coast is the recording of *Captain Rapp* , as well as the transformation of the funk dance venue *Radio Club* into the first rap dance hall in L.A. (and that had among its first visitors to *Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers* for 1982!).
Yo Jayquan, don't forget about THE LATE GREAT MIX MASTER SPADE. He was right there along with Toddy Tee with the song ''JUST SAY NO''. That was a BIG HIT in South Central L.A., Watts & Compton. And of course ALL OVER CALIFORNIA. Also ''You Better Bring A Gun'' feat. KING TEE. Compton's Legend, MIX MASTER SPADE (R.I.P)
Brillaint doc, a real education regarding the evolutionary manner of West Coast hip hop both stylistically and from a production stand point congrats to the author 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Truth be told most break dancing in St. Louis was done to west coast artists. Surgery was the shit. So was Egyptian Lover and Electric Kingdom still get me wanting to hit the floor.
26:12 Being from Detroit Mi, this is an ANTHEM STILL. The back story (and I don't have it quite complete but do know some piece) is Detroit was a huge market for Prince. Electrifying Mojo is the one that broke him. (I believe there's an interview of them both on TH-cam). This is why there were a number of Detroit references in Prince's music (when I say Prince, I'm speaking of the entire MPLS sound). Basically, "Bad Times" happened because Jam and Lewis were pretty much trying to get their name buzz out on the west coast when they parted Prince. I don't know what happened first but they're the same year. "Bad Times" or "SOS Band" Great episode as usual JayQuan
Another great informative Lesson about the west Coast hip hop Lesson you educated me about the timeline of the origin of West Coast hip hop records. Look forward to rest of the other parts of the West Coast hip hop rise to prominence because that region definitely dominated the late 80s and early 90s. The West Coast had the last laugh in the end because people felt the west Coast artists were country as far as the accents of the rhyme cadence. West Coast hip hop definitely deserves their just due. Great Lesson for the part one of the rise of the West Coast because they definitely arose to prominence and the zenith of rap music.
I'd really love to interview & build with Jayquan some day🫡 Research I can't share in comments😅 I think another major reason why Southern California (particularly L.A., Compton & Gardena) started making records later is not only the Super star DJ's (as you shared could pack 10,000 people JUST to dance to tha DJ sets), but also SOUL TRAIN was in L.A. I believe that caused more folks to emerge themselves in the dance scene (Hence, Disco Daddy was a Soul Train dancer first😉). Some say that "Monkey Mann" record (on Laff Records) wad the first L.A. Rap record (1980). But I'd have to argue that its not technically rap, but more of a Rudy Ray Moore style poetry. The very first L.A. Rap record was a group produced by Cletus Anderson who just recently passed away. It was also released in 1980. Cletus also produced Ice-T's first record (on Saturn) and a host of other early L.A. Rap recordings. He later founded World Famous V.I.P. Records in L.A. and Long Beach (same location where 213 recorded their demo)
OHHH SHIT...@ 14 mins in...You threw on my shit...Knights of the Turntables! I remember my neighbor borrowed my 500 records (I was like 10 or 11 years old with that many records already)...when I used to go to his house to practice as part of the exchange...I found this jam...silver label..."Techno Scratch" I think it was called...like 3 DJs doing the shit You see the DJ battle crews do NOWADAYS with the symphony orchestra type routines!!! No one really peeped that...Knights of the Turntables was one of the ones to inspire that movement, subliminally! And like I said...I was out here in Jersey at that time...no internet...I just SENSED it...WOWZERS! You going in, Jay Quan...lovin' it!
I fell in love with the 12s a few yrs after. Mr. Mixx, DJ Magic Mike, DJ Mannie Fresh (Gregory D), DJ Man (Shy D), ect., all were cuttin' it up. I think the south was influenced by the west. Ive always thought that musically, the west and the south were cousins...K.I.M I'm feelin' this one.
The Foundation think I got about 4 MC shy D 12in and maybe one or two full-length LPS think maybe one though I will have to dig through the crates to find them out
@@cdshawn true... Shy D IS from Atlanta but he got on in Miami. He was on 4Sight, Luke Skyywalker and then he had his own label Benz Records through On Top Records. I don't think he made a wack record.
If you listen to the last minutes of Rockberry Jam (1985) by the LA Dream Team, they shout out to World Class Wreckin Cru, Uncle Jam's Army, Egyptian Lover, Bobby Jimmy, Ice-T, etc. NYC rappers did this too..Not too many beefs back then although I know Melle Mel wasn't a big fan of the Sugar Hill Gang LOL
THis is great stuff. I often hear ppl say "do the history" but they dont actually know much themselves and talking out their ass. Its great to hear someone actually really break it down
I remember break dancing to this my friend used to bring the boom box out and we used to break to these songs til the batteries died lol😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🧨💪💪👍🎤🎤🎤📻📻📻
I bought several releases by E.L and WCWC back in the day, over here in Europe, The shops imported them and they were expensive of course. in 84-85 this music was too new and it wasn`t played on the radio, the only chance to get a small taste was wathing movies like "Beat Street! or "Breakin" at the cinemas. The shops had to throw the records in the bargain bins. And that`s were I came in! Ok, I already had many of the Arthur Bakers productions and electro-funk was and still is cool. Thanks to the many vols of the british Street Sounds label , I got a good picture of what`s went on in the west and east coast, You mentioned late in your video Kraftwerks Tour de France (far from their best work), the above mentioned groups are heavily influenced by it. However, on tour de france there s `heavy breathing from a guy on a bike, but on E.L records it`s a woman moaning. In your video we learn that E.L was a huge Prince fan . I guess he got it from him. On some of those records there is too much filth, in my opinion. It got worse down in Miami. Nevertheless, big thanks for this lesson, really really looking forward to pt 2/Electro lesson, I get really exited watching this! Ps are you going to include Bobby Jimmy & The Critters or how about The Knights of the turntables? Nuff said. Peace,
Such huge fan of your work 🙏🏽 Couldn’t help to notice that from 32:56-34:34 you were playing the instrumental to Shy-D Is Back by MC Shy-D, who was a Miami based Atlanta (Dacatur) rapper. Shy-D was also Afrika Bambaataa’s cousin. Can you do a Miami Bass/Booty history lesson? I’ve always noticed how similar some of the early West Cost, Miami and Atlanta sound was and It would be cool to find out how these similarities came about.
I wish the straight outta Compton movie had used some of these songs to highlight and pay homage to these early west coast artists. Like When Eazy E jumped through that window when the tank was pulling up. They should've had toddy Tee's batter ram playing.
We cant forget about the only radio station in Los Angeles in the 80s 1580 KDAY and world on wheels on the weekends that was probably the biggest influence of hip hop in all of southern Cali that's where we first really started to hear Egyptian lover and techno hop and rap, this is a very important detail that cant be passed over anybody who wanted to hear the music had to tone into KDAY this is where we heard all the legends of the east coast and west coast during this time period.
@@TheFoundationhiphop Thank you very important part of the history. I was a pre teen in 83, 84 just really discovering hip hop around that era in Los Angeles.
"RECKLESS" was like W. Coast's DOOR KICKIN' IN jam!!! That song (along with movie) helped wake heads up out here about W.C. rap going on!!! I heard about "What Is A DJ" by E. Lover...1st time hearing it --> sounds like the dope azz B-side joints we used to have out here! Dope song...
THIS THE SHIT YO.... D.J.SLIP BATTLECAT, MIKE TEE, RIC ROC, I RECORDED WITH A LOTTA ORIGINAL DJ'S FROM UNCLE JAMS ARMY... STILL RECORD TO THIS DAY... GOOD SHIT BRO... 💯
I'm from Detroit and to this day Captain Rapp's Bad Times is the all time greatest party classic of old schoolers from the 80's. When that song comes on in an old school club nobody is sitting!!!!!
Thanks for the memories of my childhood. Born in Philly, moved to the Valley in 1980. Man listen.lol
That LA Rap sound in the mid 80's was very big in the midwest!! Electric rap..
Dial A Freak was a crucial staple...1580 KDAY AM was very instrumental in breaking these records. 1230 KGFJ AM was crucial in terms of bringing the Dr Dre mixes on Sunday very briefly. But KDAY would play the actual Uncle Jamm parties and mixes on the radio years earlier on weekends. Later , KDAY introduced The Mixmaster Show a year or so later. 1580 KDAY was the ONLY radio station that played Funk and Hip Hop 24-7 in the country at which they were extremely instrumental in breaking everybody's records due to the programming advantage and wide territory of LA.
Indeed. KDAY was instrumental, definitely covering their impact in part 2.
@@TheFoundationhiphop My brother your channel takes Black History Month from 28 days to 365! Keep up the excellent work!
So so true
I’m only 41 but I love the electro funk/hip hop. I had older cousins and homies who used to pop and break. Wish I had came of age in that era
Ayo I was living in Watts in 85...so that Batteram record hits home. The crack scene was relentless back then.
I don't have words to describe your work. Thanks you for your channel
This is awesome indeed. A lot of people don't know the West Coast has a vast history in the hip hop culture. Ice T, W.C. DJ Alladdin World Class Wrecking Kru, Egyptian Lover this has been long overdue. Can't wait for part two. I hope you make a Special Va Edition of the Foundation.
Dope as always!
More of a history of LA hip hop, than a history of the entire West Coast (Bay area, Seattle etc...) But I know there's more to come. I've hunted down a lot of the early originals, but now I have a few more to seek out. One love...
I'm glad you put "The Batterram" on here!! One of the greatest, most enduring, influential Hip-Hop classics of all time. Props and respect to the CPT legend Toddy Tee.
✌🏿✌🏿jay!! Lyor Cohen was on The Breakfast Club and Surprisingly he Mentioned Uncle Jamm’s Army. Everything Cohen Said, You Visually Made a Connection To a T. He Name Dropped Run-DMC Opening For Them. THE WEST COAST ARE TRUE INNOVATORS. Respect ✊🏿 to The Pioneers Out West....Sounds of Parliament, ZAPP, Ronnie Hudson, Prince (RIP) Morris Day And The Time Catapulted The Scene. I Stand To Be Corrected though I swear I Heard Early ICE-T On Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis Production.
Cohen definitely gave Uncle Jamms Army props. The Breakfast Club wasn't familiar...
Jam and Lewis produced Cold Wind Madness/The Coldest Rap by Ice T.
The Foundation Good Looks!
Tall Israeli (Lyor Cohen) running this rap shit/ Quasi homosexuals running this rap shit- Mos Def. Fuck Lyor 'liar' Cohen he's fucking up hip hop making it satanic and pushing a homosexual musical agenda. Lyor also came up with the 360 deal which is a slave deal that gives records companies a cut from an artists earning inside and outside of music...slavery- fame is the devil's game.
IceManLikeGervin say it louder broski 💯
Yes thank you what we all been waiting for another good lesson plan right on time never fails
i found this very interesting, great job my man. Very well explained.. Keep rockin' steady.
Thanks for looking. Respect
The audio of these lessons should be played on your streaming station on a regular schedule. Love these and thank you for keeping the history alive!
I love your lessons bro. Keep them coming!!!
Thank you for looking!
MY DUDE!!!! Always pumped to get a new foundation lesson!!!! They take too long in between BUT they're ALWAYS worth the wait! Keep on doin what you do!!! Much Respect brother!!!!!!
wow I remember my buddy from school loaned me a tape that he had back in 1984 it had all those funky electro rap songs from Cali ice T and Dr Dre of course from the wrecking crew Egyptian lover my fav from that era Soo pure and dope much props from the west coast as well with this funky rap style
Wow 😮 I always wanted to know origin of west coast hip hop thanks sir
Sir Too $hort was n Oakland with white cassettes n 82 on wax n '83. Keep up the excellent work & research JayQuan....... Peace Black!!!!
Another reason why this is one of my favorite channels. Salute
I don't know how i missed this episode. Enjoying it Jayquan. Taking me back when we had to buy 2pk & 3pk cassettes Memorex, TDK & Maxell
I love when you talk about S.MCs, also you mention K.BLOW relocated to the west coast about this time,cause am heading something!!!!
"L A DreamTeam, LA Breeze, King.T, Ice.T, Paris, KAM, N.W.A, Lynchmob, MC Eght, Dj Quik...was all I listened too. And I definitely can't forget about Bobby Jimmy and the Critters"😂
Teacher Supreme...HipHop Historian...Rap Musicologist... Jayquan, I am a life long student (& teacher of music)... your work is incredible. Thank you brother.
Don't forget about 1984, 75 Girls records with the great "Too Short" who forever changed West Coast rap with his first EP. Gangsta-Playa rap was here to stay! Ask N.W.A. where there influence's came from! Todd Shaw. You can't have this West Coast Bio without Too Short! The Bay Area is different than the LA scene.
The Bay is another entire entity. There are 2 more parts bro. This is only part 1.
Thanks for hollering back! I will be patient then bro.
Another quality video brother. Ice T's "Reckless" was the first West Coast record I ever bought. I'm glad it made it into your examples of the first West Coast Rap records to break through! Keep up the EXCELLENT work!
Disco Daddy and Captain Rapp had the first West Coast rap song officially. It was called Giggalo Rap from 1981... just wanted to confirm Jayquans instincts, cause he seemed hesitant to declare it
I covered that song in the piece. I was saying in the piece though, that there are instances of people pressing up a couple hundred copies of a record, and the music ends up in obscurity. But yeah Disco Daddy and Captain Rapp seems to be the first documented. Thanks for looking.
@@TheFoundationhiphop so true on that note!
Motorcycle Mike out of Oakland also released Super Rat in 1981. But I'm not sure how widespread it was out of the city. I honestly hasn't heard of him until decades later. The first homegrown rap I remember was $hort around 1984. And that was his stuff on 75 Girls Records...
Dogs And Yoga yup, Super Rat is definitely 1 of the first rap records from the West Coast period!
@@NBALiveGirl also King Monkey Rapp by King Monkey and Casper Groovy Ghost Show were on the Cali scene in 1980 - 81.... Dog & Yoga u got it right
Thank you my brotha JayQuan...i'm sharing this with my all homies out here in LA COMPTON AND WATTS Roger clayton R.I.P
Thanks, this was another valuable lesson!! 💯 ...I always had a limit knowledge of the early days of West Coast Hip-Hop...this definitely filled-in a lot of gaps!
There's so much more. There are gonna have to be at least 3 parts...
Radio activity was the cut back in the day..! Oh what about west coast crew ,jailbait that was a jam too..!
Also u had Magic Mike And Calvin T n Richmond Ca, u can find them on youtube. Calvin T is 1 of the M.Cs E-40 says his style comes from I remember E-40 first time on rap city giving credit 2 Calvin T. Once E-40 signed with Jive he put out Southwest Riders compilation Calvin T had a track called Bout My Money. 40 tried 2 sign him but Calvin T was n those streets of Richmond. Early works on on youtube , on wax about '83. Mac Dre is a product of a M.C. called The Mac he's also on youtube, look up The Mac the game is Thick with the Prince sample of D.M.S.R.
Good stuff!!!!,so many early pioneers that seem to get lost in the mix a bit
This TH-cam channel,is a dream come true. A real Ol School channel dedicatited to this. Stay up Jay !!!!!!
Respect!
I’m a big West Coast head out of Florida, Thanks for this. All your content is dope!
Been waiting for this 1 all these memories are priceless dont forget about Sir Mix Alot
YES WA reprezent
JayQuan, I've been loving your site for some months now. Bay Area Hip Hop Historian, Davey D, put me up on you. I love every part of what you've been sharing. I'm 46 and grew up a first generation Hip Hopper, born and raised in Oakland. I appreciate your attention to detail and ability to talk about when you first heard all the classic records. As a kid in Oakland, who loved funk, was all in on Hip Hop from Sugar Hill, Kurtis Blow, Funky 4+1, and Spoonie Gee and rooted for my west coast heroes, I was part of the west coast movement that you spoke of. We started with Uncle Jam, Egyptian Lover, Ice-T, World Class Wrecking Crew, Too Short, and Toddy Tee. We cheered when NWA made noise. We rejoiced when Ice Cube got east coast acceptance. We gloated when Dr. Dre, Tupac, and Snoop were running the Hip Hop world. If I'm ever in your area, I'd love to chop it up. Keep up the excellent work and keep it coming. One Love!
Peace and respect bro. Thanks for looking! I will definitely reach out when I'm on your side.
DJ Styles I'm 37 and a second generation hip hopper, but I love the old school and it's hella intriguing to know the genesis of westcoast hip hop. I'm from the Bay Area too and until I saw this video I though Too Short was the first westcoast rapper. As a rapper and student of hip hop myself, this is a real treat for me. Thanx JayQuan and keep em comin'!
Jimmy jam talked about producing badd times on questloves show..that song was big in Detroit and still gets play today
“West Coast Poplocking” also gave Roger Troutman his first #1 pop hit through “California Love.”
"West Coast Poplock" was a rip off from "So Ruff So Tuff". He basically took his creative interest. One time I opened for George Clinton and his band went into "For Those That Like To Groove" mashed up with "One Nation Under A Groove"
Mr Unique74 that Ray Parker Jack of “One Nation.” Chic does that when they play “Good Times”, they also play “Another One Bites the Dust” and “Bounce, Rock, Skate”
@@DiscoHank Dust was definitely a clear rip off. They weren't making records like that before.
Yeah they were in a whole other genre of music. But the “Good Times” bassline ended up being almost a cottage industry in the early 80s.
@@unique74muzik They also re use Magic Tricks Rap by Magic Tricks (1981) phrases
@TheFoundation Great point about the bass scene. Don't forget, 2 Live Crew is originally from Southern Cali (except Uncle Luke)
We really must distinguish L.A. artists from just saying"The West Coast", because that would include Cali, Oregon, and Washington State. Bay Area Cali has it's own history and beginnings (which some say started with Too $hort. But even $hort is originally from the Crenshaw District of L.A.). And then a city like San Diego has it's own history. So, we must be clear about which region we're critiquing. All of the pioneers @JayQuan has featured in this lesson are from the surrounding Los Angeles, Compton, or So.Cal only.
Salute to Rappers Rap Disco Co. Label Co., The Unknown DJ, Lonzo Williams, Roger Clayton Sr. (R.I.P), DJ Crazy Toones (R.I.P.)
Dezo Daz...IMPORTANT record and sample at the end! I think Dezo became "YOMO AND MAULKIE" which was locally known legends out there! I think I heard someone mention that...b.u.t. YOU KNOW gotta touch on King Tee and DJ Pooh when You do West Coast??? That is a MUST...they gel'd shit together...especially West finally being heard out East heavily...and NOT TO MENTION...King T has been an "undercover" fav out here because Notorious B.I.G. ADMITTED to copying T's style...I knew that AUTOMATICALLY with that "Baby, BAY-BAY" cry Biggie would do! I heard that FOR YEARS on T's songs!!! Once again...I never left the Jersey Coast to PEEP ALL THIS SHIT going on! lol...
These lessons are so hot thanks keep it coming
Mix master space play a role in the L.A. Development
Definitely. Spade did. He's in part 2 when I speak on King Tee
Cant for get about dj pooh
When I first moved to Cali in the 90’s a dude told me Spade was from St. Louis. Is that true?
@@sjp1969 Spade brought that from New York
@@uneverknow8154Is it like Ice T brought that from New Jersey
Memories...whoa...
Thank you so much for this. I haven't watched a frame yet and I know you showed respect. I'm about to kick back on this Cali and enjoy this.
This is really good material. Can we get an idea of when part 2 will be dropped?? Thanks for creating and sharing this - again great work!!
Excellent lesson, I just felt I needed to hear more from Duffy Hooks and the Rappers Rapp Records and Rich Cason. "Radio Activity" is a watershed west coast record. Also the influence of KDAY radio station was a huge West Coast phenom back then.
Rappers Rapp Group had perhaps the first white M.C. (DJ FLASH) on thier 1982 hit. King MC (also from R.R.G.) is well regarded by most as a Godfather\pioneer.
But this was a great starting point, I really appreciate your research and presentation.
Point taken. KDAY will be covered in part 2. I will speak on Rich Cason, Rappers Rapp - Radioactivity, When Doves Cry etc. Thanks for looking, and thanks for your polite critique!
Yes Motorcycle Mike was Baytown Rap 1981. That should be mentioned in part 2.
Also, Jayquan used Egyptian Lover or Arabian Prince's recollection of "some guy called Duffy was doing stuff in L.A." WOW is that misleading. Duffy Hooks was with Bobby Robinson at Enjoy before coming to L.A. He looked for local talent and found Disco Daddy, a solid MC who frequently battled against a man named DJ Tracy (later to be known as ICE T). Hooks signed Disco Daddy in '81 and paired him with Capt. RAPP. Next in November '81, Hooks held a casting call for a 5 man rap group for the next West Coast song, Rappin Partee Groove. The tryouts were held, and he even pick a white guy DJ FLASH for the crew. "Sweeter than sweet, nicer than nice", every Cali hip hop fan knows that intro line. Using the studio right before the R.R.G. did their thing, was the GAP Band, and somehow Hooks and the crew got the GAP Band guitarist to play licks on Rappin Partee Groove which adds to the killer track. Hooks got DJ Tracy (ICE T) next and laid down the coldest rap in 82 or 83. The R.R.G. sensed disco rap was on the outs by 82 and 83, they rebranded as Dark Star, but there album flopped, poor rhymes. As Jayquan astutEly picks up on, Cali went to Electro by late 83. Members of the R.R.G. retooled and got some new blood, they reformed as the Future MC' s. RADIOACTIVITY, BEVERLY HILLS RAP (on the soundtrack no less) are huge West coast markers. "Some guy called Duffy" - What a understatement and misnomer, I can't believe Lover or Prince said that.
Nicholas Smith bro , thanks for your input ..”DJ Tracy(ICE T)” .I never knew about that name !💯
yes, DJ FLASH - his videos are fantastic - he was there and knows the history, the labels, the same chronology. Jayquan is paying lip service to the west coast - this is helpful gateway stuff but look by DJ FLASH and that's the detail.
Uncle Jams Army ...Slauson & Western!....They had a record shop there on Slauson & Western back in the day, and that was their plug on the radio station 1580 KDAY (Greg Mack). You could go purchase records and tapes (factory or personal mix tapes where they would say your name on the tape in reverb, so if anyone stole ya tape...you can claim it cuz ya name is said through out the tape[clever])
I love coming back to this cideo
Very interesting history. Some of those cats had that Spoonie G sound to go with the Euro Electronics sound. Egyptian lover been out forever. Thanks.
That captain rapp record became a club banger in '88..
Loving this my Brother!! Another stellar presentation. Listening while running my delivery route and enjoying it.
Thank you for listening. That means everything. Respect.
Would like to say Thanx for this documentary. I grew up during this confusion of hiphop i most definitely gravitated towards the west coast way before the early 90s. It's my vibes that chose to listen to the west coast
C-bo a Sacramento rapper sampled "batterram" on his first album the gas chamber. Sam Bostic and Mike Mosley produced the song.
I'm from Sacramento CA, and it's dope that The Triple Threat Three got a mention, because they were one of the first of not the first rap groups from Sacramento, CA and influenced rappers such as Brotha Lynch Hung.
You know your hip hop history brother!!! When you put Toddy Tee on I know you did some research! This single was really underground!!! And I didn't even know about that group from Baltimore!
Thanks for looking!
Very interesting video. Another essential part in the arrival of Hip Hop on the West Coast is the recording of *Captain Rapp* , as well as the transformation of the funk dance venue *Radio Club* into the first rap dance hall in L.A. (and that had among its first visitors to *Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers* for 1982!).
Just subscribed to your channel enjoying everything I'm watching did you ever get around to making a part two to this one..
Yo Jayquan, don't forget about THE LATE GREAT MIX MASTER SPADE. He was right there along with Toddy Tee with the song ''JUST SAY NO''. That was a BIG HIT in South Central L.A., Watts & Compton. And of course ALL OVER CALIFORNIA. Also ''You Better Bring A Gun'' feat. KING TEE. Compton's Legend, MIX MASTER SPADE (R.I.P)
Brillaint doc, a real education regarding the evolutionary manner of West Coast hip hop both stylistically and from a production stand point congrats to the author 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
This is a pleasant surprise to wake up to see. I love these lessons. :)
Peace, and thanks for looking...
Can't Wait For Part-2!
Truth be told most break dancing in St. Louis was done to west coast artists. Surgery was the shit. So was Egyptian Lover and Electric Kingdom still get me wanting to hit the floor.
26:12 Being from Detroit Mi, this is an ANTHEM STILL. The back story (and I don't have it quite complete but do know some piece) is Detroit was a huge market for Prince. Electrifying Mojo is the one that broke him. (I believe there's an interview of them both on TH-cam). This is why there were a number of Detroit references in Prince's music (when I say Prince, I'm speaking of the entire MPLS sound).
Basically, "Bad Times" happened because Jam and Lewis were pretty much trying to get their name buzz out on the west coast when they parted Prince. I don't know what happened first but they're the same year. "Bad Times" or "SOS Band"
Great episode as usual JayQuan
Nice shout out on Denroy Morgan also. WOW!!!
Indeed. They produced the Coldest Rap for Ice T as well during that time after Prince fired them...
Another great informative Lesson about the west Coast hip hop Lesson you educated me about the timeline of the origin of West Coast hip hop records. Look forward to rest of the other parts of the West Coast hip hop rise to prominence because that region definitely dominated the late 80s and early 90s. The West Coast had the last laugh in the end because people felt the west Coast artists were country as far as the accents of the rhyme cadence. West Coast hip hop definitely deserves their just due. Great Lesson for the part one of the rise of the West Coast because they definitely arose to prominence and the zenith of rap music.
I'd really love to interview & build with Jayquan some day🫡 Research I can't share in comments😅 I think another major reason why Southern California (particularly L.A., Compton & Gardena) started making records later is not only the Super star DJ's (as you shared could pack 10,000 people JUST to dance to tha DJ sets), but also SOUL TRAIN was in L.A. I believe that caused more folks to emerge themselves in the dance scene (Hence, Disco Daddy was a Soul Train dancer first😉). Some say that "Monkey Mann" record (on Laff Records) wad the first L.A. Rap record (1980). But I'd have to argue that its not technically rap, but more of a Rudy Ray Moore style poetry. The very first L.A. Rap record was a group produced by Cletus Anderson who just recently passed away. It was also released in 1980. Cletus also produced Ice-T's first record (on Saturn) and a host of other early L.A. Rap recordings. He later founded World Famous V.I.P. Records in L.A. and Long Beach (same location where 213 recorded their demo)
OHHH SHIT...@ 14 mins in...You threw on my shit...Knights of the Turntables! I remember my neighbor borrowed my 500 records (I was like 10 or 11 years old with that many records already)...when I used to go to his house to practice as part of the exchange...I found this jam...silver label..."Techno Scratch" I think it was called...like 3 DJs doing the shit You see the DJ battle crews do NOWADAYS with the symphony orchestra type routines!!! No one really peeped that...Knights of the Turntables was one of the ones to inspire that movement, subliminally! And like I said...I was out here in Jersey at that time...no internet...I just SENSED it...WOWZERS! You going in, Jay Quan...lovin' it!
The song "The Batterram" by Toddy Tee sounds like it plant the seeds of what will become gangster rap in the West Coast
Uncle Jamms Army Fo Life
I fell in love with the 12s a few yrs after. Mr. Mixx, DJ Magic Mike, DJ Mannie Fresh (Gregory D), DJ Man (Shy D), ect., all were cuttin' it up. I think the south was influenced by the west. Ive always thought that musically, the west and the south were cousins...K.I.M I'm feelin' this one.
Thanks for looking!
@@TheFoundationhiphop nah bruh, thank u.
@ 32:55..."Shy D Is Back" MC Shy D. Can't wait for a Miami Hip Hop foundation volume. Your Crates are endless Jay! 👊
Thanks for looking bro. I'm supposed to be interviewing Shy D. I will keep you posted.
The Foundation .
MC shy D gave big props to Atlanta that used to say that's where he was from and he had a song called in Atlanta in in Atlanta.....
The Foundation think I got about 4 MC shy D 12in and maybe one or two full-length LPS think maybe one though I will have to dig through the crates to find them out
@@cdshawn true... Shy D IS from Atlanta but he got on in Miami. He was on 4Sight, Luke Skyywalker and then he had his own label Benz Records through On Top Records. I don't think he made a wack record.
Excellent work as per usual with your posts. Thank you.
If you listen to the last minutes of Rockberry Jam (1985) by the LA Dream Team, they shout out to World Class Wreckin Cru, Uncle Jam's Army, Egyptian Lover, Bobby Jimmy, Ice-T, etc. NYC rappers did this too..Not too many beefs back then although I know Melle Mel wasn't a big fan of the Sugar Hill Gang LOL
I was in break dance group eygptian lover dropped great lesson bad time was a huge dance hit in Detroit
Yes, finally!
Dope. I learned something from as usual. Keep em coming
THis is great stuff. I often hear ppl say "do the history" but they dont actually know much themselves and talking out their ass. Its great to hear someone actually really break it down
I remember break dancing to this my friend used to bring the boom box out and we used to break to these songs til the batteries died lol😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🧨💪💪👍🎤🎤🎤📻📻📻
very entertaining like always had me hypnotize lool blessing
Love your work Camden in da house!
Shout out 2 live crew & knights of the turntable
R.I.P to Duffy Hooks i knew him very well
Dope! What about The Knights of the Turntables?
great upload again!!
I bought several releases by E.L and WCWC back in the day, over here in Europe, The shops imported them and they were expensive of course. in 84-85 this music was too new and it wasn`t played on the radio, the only chance to get a small taste was wathing movies like "Beat Street! or "Breakin" at the cinemas. The shops had to throw the records in the bargain bins. And that`s were I came in! Ok, I already had many of the Arthur Bakers productions and electro-funk was and still is cool. Thanks to the many vols of the british Street Sounds label , I got a good picture of what`s went on in the west and east coast, You mentioned late in your video Kraftwerks Tour de France (far from their best work), the above mentioned groups are heavily influenced by it. However, on tour de france there s `heavy breathing from a guy on a bike, but on E.L records it`s a woman moaning. In your video we learn that E.L was a huge Prince fan . I guess he got it from him. On some of those records there is too much filth, in my opinion. It got worse down in Miami. Nevertheless, big thanks for this lesson, really really looking forward to pt 2/Electro lesson, I get really exited watching this! Ps are you going to include Bobby Jimmy & The Critters or how about The Knights of the turntables? Nuff said. Peace,
Definitely Booby Jimmy and the Knights!! Thanks for looking!
Looking forward to that electronic hip hop vid.
Glad i found The Foundation ! Great Content. Detroit Out.
Thanks for watching! Peace and Respect!!
Excellent, excellent content brutha! Rock on!!
Excellent work thanks for the history lesson
I think you will be a good guest on the Yanadameen Godcast
...and FINALLY it'd be someone to really give Lord Jamar a run for his money. I'd PAY to see that interview.
I agree on this
Damn..Z-3 was from Bmore!! Wow! Wasnt DJ Cheese producing their records? They favored Word of Mouth in terms of delivery.
Yeah, Cheese on the cuts, and Duke Bootee on production...
@@TheFoundationhiphop Duke is like the silent Zen..his name is tied to so many pivotal points.
Such huge fan of your work 🙏🏽
Couldn’t help to notice that from 32:56-34:34 you were playing the instrumental to Shy-D Is Back by MC Shy-D, who was a Miami based Atlanta (Dacatur) rapper. Shy-D was also Afrika Bambaataa’s cousin. Can you do a Miami Bass/Booty history lesson? I’ve always noticed how similar some of the early West Cost, Miami and Atlanta sound was and It would be cool to find out how these similarities came about.
Bambaataa is not MC Shy D cousin
Is this the same D.J. Unknown who was a part of Compton's Most Wanted?
Yes
A lot of these songs I remember playing here in New Orleans on WYLD FM98 on Friday night mixes in the mid 80's.
I wish the straight outta Compton movie had used some of these songs to highlight and pay homage to these early west coast artists. Like When Eazy E jumped through that window when the tank was pulling up. They should've had toddy Tee's batter ram playing.
That could have been a timeline issue. The scene that they were shooting happened before the Batterram existed.
We cant forget about the only radio station in Los Angeles in the 80s 1580 KDAY and world on wheels on the weekends that was probably the biggest influence of hip hop in all of southern Cali that's where we first really started to hear Egyptian lover and techno hop and rap, this is a very important detail that cant be passed over anybody who wanted to hear the music had to tone into KDAY this is where we heard all the legends of the east coast and west coast during this time period.
Coming soon. KDAY is a lesson on its own
@@TheFoundationhiphop Thank you very important part of the history. I was a pre teen in 83, 84 just really discovering hip hop around that era in Los Angeles.
"RECKLESS" was like W. Coast's DOOR KICKIN' IN jam!!! That song (along with movie) helped wake heads up out here about W.C. rap going on!!! I heard about "What Is A DJ" by E. Lover...1st time hearing it --> sounds like the dope azz B-side joints we used to have out here! Dope song...
This is great love it,just to see how early the west coast have been doing it and the pioneers who don't get the credit that they deserve
THIS THE SHIT YO.... D.J.SLIP BATTLECAT, MIKE TEE, RIC ROC, I RECORDED WITH A LOTTA ORIGINAL DJ'S FROM UNCLE JAMS ARMY... STILL RECORD TO THIS DAY... GOOD SHIT BRO... 💯
Respect bro
Peace Jaquan, take your time, and cover the complete roots of the 80's Rap culture fam.
Toddy Tee, Mix Master Spade...
WOWZERS...BECKET RECORDS!!! MEMORIES...