Right! I've told friends who've had issues with other people, that even if they whoop you, on some level they will respect you just for standing up for yourself.
I agree...there was a group of kids who used to pick on me in highschool...id say maybe 20-25 kids...and it really changed my life alot...I systematically hunted each one of them down and abducted them in thier sleep and took one of thier fingers..each in a different way..like one whole finger or like half..each one had a specific meaning to me about why they picked on me...once it was done they were all too scared to pick on anyone. Just goes to show that you don't ever need to justify yourself...or go through the psychological process of healing because others don't think they can hurt you..all you need is some tactical education and a good set of surgical tools and the ability to sew to make the point. Whats the point? I dunno..why don't you ask your finger where the point is? That's the point...dont make a point to point out what's in your head that will not prosper or profit you in any real way unless you mean to kill me or hurt me with words. Never. So I start high-school next year..and I hope this story will help others. (I'm only kidding...but im sure this is the fantasy of every picked on pc nerd. I think bullies are everywhere..I think facts are bully profit...I think successful people are obvious bullies. I think celebrities..are bullies...and I know...for a fact...that our goverment and our capitalist system and democracy...are built on accepting bullying and abusing others...and thats not a made up story..thats the truth...ive known that a long long time...if adults can't commit to kill thier children and instead abuse them by spanking them and messing up thier lives and minds...then bullying will acceptable..because if words can pass as abuse enough..it will stand..and it does stand..alot of people spit and retract or retrace and correct...to be responsible and expose the problem..some have even addressed the problem..but it doesn't ever end...everything is a point against everyone for anything.thats life! Skateboarding is the same way and that's used against you too..its something you "love" but it's not...its YOU...that board ain't alive homie...its you doing that...and you fall and get mad hurt! For nothing...a something you believe is a point for you..."oh you're not a loser bum..youre a "skater" oh I totally understand why you're broke and dirty and stink and have sub values...because you can kickflip...I see...oh it's more important when you do it over or down something...oh you have profit margins like a crossword puzzle..I get it." See thats not something people are gonna accept...you can do the same thing with jesus."..sure it's awful to be mocked and abused for your beliefs and opinions and political views...worse to be killed for them..sure...yeah but that was 2000+ years ago...I can do what I want." Same thing..its every where...but they've beat the system...they don't need words..its included in the facts...and facets to make a product and production...can't start the car without they keys...can't go to the beach without a Towel...gotta shave for work...gotta have insurance in case of a flood or fire you may die in..wear a helmet in case you break your arm....gotta go off grid..with my cellphone 10 battery boxes a flat-screen and an ikea mini couch and my range rover..im "roughing it"...youre either a part of something or you're not..all nature requires is that you kill in most cases...get hard..get lean...get tough...forget about eating for fullness or mass..just eat to survive and not go mad or die...but when you get to that lowest most abnormal to modern level of existance..and you go back to modernity..you just find it's making itself out to be the minority...and its not...the world makes it seem like nature is so immature and being a survivalist and a predator is unattractive unless it's for success or sex or style...and its not supposed to attractive...its supposed to be a means to an end..and a statement about the society and goverment being rediculous...I should not have to 25 passwords memorized for my day to go right...I should not have to choose between a bad product with a trending notoriety vs a good product with an imaginatively fatal wound for a price..thats what you pay for by the way when you buy stuff...its like zelda....imaginary enhanced weapons tools and potions...sure you can get that real sword...but one poke on anybody and you're in real jail...but..you can have this phony dope light Saber for use once a year on Halloween for the Xtra lo price of...too much and why even? But anyways..even if you get the point..theres nothing you can do except treat life like a mission and survive it for the sake of finances which puts you right back in the same place...doing too much...to get so little back and not doing enough to get ahead because risk is a possible payoff. Nothing you can do...the standards have overcome being a system...now it's a host and parasite kind of thing...skateboarding...ha..who cares.
As someone who grew up skating in the late 80s and throughout the 90s a lot of skaters were kinda assholes back then. It wasn’t exactly something the “good” kids did.
Over the years I've realized just how important the filmer is. A good filmer can be a difference between landing or not landing a trick. He's there with you,and as a skater you have to know that this man want's this clip just as much as you do. Skater and a filmer have to be on the same wave. And you as a filmer,you have to know when to shut up,when to focus,when to cheer him up,when to motivate him,when to tell him to stop being a pussy etc... So all you skaters out there,appriciate your filmer. Sometimes they love skateboarding more then the skaters.
Not just the filmer it's anyone behind the scenes in skateboarding can really take the brunt of all the negativity especially with the worst attitudes that skateboarding can have with some people. There are definitely a goof amount of spoiled, entitled, violent and criminal types in the scene. Some tend to either grow up one day or hide themselves in the scene til the bitter end. Look at the man who sold the world doc to get an idea of how young teen and adult skaters can be. Not to mention old baker videos and the marketing of bad attitudes and whatever else. Of course, it's not all skaters just remember that's it is there like any other scene or culture.
@@orlandocarrasquillo4481 Watched that documentary 10+ years ago. Is a good one. In my opinion Baker didn't show bad attitude. At least not in a way the bad attitude is being talked about here. Baker boys were a group. They never teased Beagle for example. If anything,they were very inclusive. Shane Heyl got along the ride simply cuz he's a homie. In general people overreact to the whole early Baker thing. They were kinda like a rock band in their prime. A little to much partying and that's it... What later happend with people like Shane Cross,P-Stone,Van Wastell etc. was no on their team. Also,Carroll and Rosenberg were very very young when this happend. They were kids pretty much. Carroll grew up in a broken home with no father and a mother who ren away with her boyfriend and left Greg and Mike behind alone in the house. On top of that he was a 17 year old skater,who was already a household name with a ton of attention on him. He had to feel that pressure while nobody told him how to deal with it.... I was friends with people who got a tiny tiny bit of success in sports while they were in high school and right away they got a HUGE head. And they had some guidance. Now imagine the skateboarding industry in the early 90's and being a 17 year old kid who's on top. I'm suprised more bad stuff didn't happen...
@@orlandocarrasquillo4481 Really ? How was their image any diffrent from the likes of Jim Greco,Dustin Dollin or even Ali Boulala who was pretty much a baker boy ? Simply because TK and Antwuan are black that doesn't change anything. TK specialy was doing great while he was with Baker. His problems started when he got off the team. Antwuan also had some real problems,he was constantly running into trouble and what was Baker supposed to do ? Act as if that's not happening ? The same way early Baker was like a rock band,the same way were Dixon and TK like rap/hip-hop superstars and I don't see anything taking them down. But please stop saying it was any different just cuz they are black. Theotis was not acting out,so he was not portrayed in that light. Some with Cyiril Jackson,Donta Hill or even Kader now...
props to him for "being cool about it" but pure disrespect to the dudes who knew better and did it anyways. being absolute dogshit isn't part of skate culture, it's the result of poor parenting or poor choices.
@@lovelesstv Carroll grew up with no father and a mother who would run away with her abusive boyfriend. She would just leave Greg and Mike behind to live on their own in the house. Then come back and leave again. At some points even the food was a problem. And this was all happening when Mike was between 13 and 17-18.
Doesn’t excuse dishing it back out on other people. He was grown enough to realize right from wrong and knew he wouldn’t like to be treated like that by someone but treated others like that anyway.
i once had the opportunity to skate in cali with guy mariano and Gino. They asked us where we wanted to go skate, we could meet up with Mike Carroll at some school or go to the girl warehouse and skate the park in the back. They both said MC is a fucking asshole and most likely wouldnt acknowledge our existence so we chose to go to the girl park. It was an unbelievable experience. We had the park to ourselves for a while and then Gino and Mariano came in to skate with us and then Enrique Lorenzo and a few other famous dudes showed up to skate. Marc Johnson showed up and it was interesting seeing some of the famous people look at him like holy shit its him. Mariano and Gino didnt give a shit but the rest of them were in awe. He walked through the warehouse and peeked into the park before going to the office to speak to whoever was in there and didnt say hi to a single person. I dont mean me, some random asshole lucky to be there, i mean famous skaters.
I used to work at Lowe’s and Mark came in. He was super nice and respectful, until I mentioned I liked his fully flared part and then his attitude completely changed and he looked super uncomfortable. It was very odd
girl came to south africa .. met koston howard carroll and atiba all seemed pretty dikish .. and then rick mccrank the most friendly chilled dude ,.. even let me film a line of him .
And they grew up without a father and a dead beat alcoholic mother who basically abandoned them as children and let her boyfriends beat the shit outta them. Gnarly childhood for both of them
@@MrJackandEmily the best friend... I didn't punch him in the face but I just had to go off on his ribs. For calling me fat and anorexic on two diff occasions. That was over a decade ago. Known him almost my whole life as my neighbor... and now he owns a business- I'm saving capital after a couple failed businesses. We don't forget that shit. And I will make my come back.
You think 2 watches is suspect? I have this friend named Justice from back in the day. Idk if he's schizophrenic or what but he was have these episodes. I never saw this but apparently he was having an episode and he was wearing like 4-6 different watches that were all in different time zones haha. His little brother Ian committed suicide last Halloween RIP.
I swear to.god. Guys need to fight. If not. We just turn into passive aggressive bitches ,all pent up ,never getting over anything. Fighting is necessary sometimes.
I guess I had so much violence in my childhood that I don't think fights are cool. I think both people should just fight with words. Fights are just the lesser way of killing someone. Saying, there I could have killed you. It's so primitive really. Like monkeys swinging sticks. Still I had to teach my sons that if someone hits you immediately hit them back the exact same way. Not to snap like me. Lol
Mike Carroll has a really stoic and a little to real with you personality that you have to had been friends with him since childhood to be around him regularly.
Doesn't Mike Carrol sound like the biggest pile of toxic masculinity? This story plus keeping a 30 year grudge on Henry Sánchez ... Doesn't make me sad Crailtap is going down the drain
Filmers should only get paid two hundred dollars a month. Goes a long way saays jerone. Fuck that might be too much unless they take photos of pros and legends specifically
@@tombstonejones9581 they believe ams shouldnt even get paid until pro . from what ive heard they are almost the same thing we obvious;y know its different but yeah nine club doesnt believe ams should get paid and thsts fucked
So, it wasn’t that they bullied him. They wanted to see whether he was tough or not. It’s understandable as fuck and it happens with me and my homies that skate. We may argue sometimes, but we always have each other’s back and that’s what it’s about. Also, we all have choices. Jacob could’ve just up and left and Mike didn’t have to do that, but it happened. Again, we all have choices and this was a decision that they both made.
You gotta deal with bullies right away or, they'll never let off you.
Right! I've told friends who've had issues with other people, that even if they whoop you, on some level they will respect you just for standing up for yourself.
I agree...there was a group of kids who used to pick on me in highschool...id say maybe 20-25 kids...and it really changed my life alot...I systematically hunted each one of them down and abducted them in thier sleep and took one of thier fingers..each in a different way..like one whole finger or like half..each one had a specific meaning to me about why they picked on me...once it was done they were all too scared to pick on anyone. Just goes to show that you don't ever need to justify yourself...or go through the psychological process of healing because others don't think they can hurt you..all you need is some tactical education and a good set of surgical tools and the ability to sew to make the point. Whats the point? I dunno..why don't you ask your finger where the point is? That's the point...dont make a point to point out what's in your head that will not prosper or profit you in any real way unless you mean to kill me or hurt me with words. Never. So I start high-school next year..and I hope this story will help others. (I'm only kidding...but im sure this is the fantasy of every picked on pc nerd. I think bullies are everywhere..I think facts are bully profit...I think successful people are obvious bullies. I think celebrities..are bullies...and I know...for a fact...that our goverment and our capitalist system and democracy...are built on accepting bullying and abusing others...and thats not a made up story..thats the truth...ive known that a long long time...if adults can't commit to kill thier children and instead abuse them by spanking them and messing up thier lives and minds...then bullying will acceptable..because if words can pass as abuse enough..it will stand..and it does stand..alot of people spit and retract or retrace and correct...to be responsible and expose the problem..some have even addressed the problem..but it doesn't ever end...everything is a point against everyone for anything.thats life! Skateboarding is the same way and that's used against you too..its something you "love" but it's not...its YOU...that board ain't alive homie...its you doing that...and you fall and get mad hurt! For nothing...a something you believe is a point for you..."oh you're not a loser bum..youre a "skater" oh I totally understand why you're broke and dirty and stink and have sub values...because you can kickflip...I see...oh it's more important when you do it over or down something...oh you have profit margins like a crossword puzzle..I get it." See thats not something people are gonna accept...you can do the same thing with jesus."..sure it's awful to be mocked and abused for your beliefs and opinions and political views...worse to be killed for them..sure...yeah but that was 2000+ years ago...I can do what I want." Same thing..its every where...but they've beat the system...they don't need words..its included in the facts...and facets to make a product and production...can't start the car without they keys...can't go to the beach without a Towel...gotta shave for work...gotta have insurance in case of a flood or fire you may die in..wear a helmet in case you break your arm....gotta go off grid..with my cellphone 10 battery boxes a flat-screen and an ikea mini couch and my range rover..im "roughing it"...youre either a part of something or you're not..all nature requires is that you kill in most cases...get hard..get lean...get tough...forget about eating for fullness or mass..just eat to survive and not go mad or die...but when you get to that lowest most abnormal to modern level of existance..and you go back to modernity..you just find it's making itself out to be the minority...and its not...the world makes it seem like nature is so immature and being a survivalist and a predator is unattractive unless it's for success or sex or style...and its not supposed to attractive...its supposed to be a means to an end..and a statement about the society and goverment being rediculous...I should not have to 25 passwords memorized for my day to go right...I should not have to choose between a bad product with a trending notoriety vs a good product with an imaginatively fatal wound for a price..thats what you pay for by the way when you buy stuff...its like zelda....imaginary enhanced weapons tools and potions...sure you can get that real sword...but one poke on anybody and you're in real jail...but..you can have this phony dope light Saber for use once a year on Halloween for the Xtra lo price of...too much and why even? But anyways..even if you get the point..theres nothing you can do except treat life like a mission and survive it for the sake of finances which puts you right back in the same place...doing too much...to get so little back and not doing enough to get ahead because risk is a possible payoff. Nothing you can do...the standards have overcome being a system...now it's a host and parasite kind of thing...skateboarding...ha..who cares.
Lol, yep... "Listen here mother f.....", gotta bust one of THOSE out.
@@lancelove3663 po-lice on da whey
As someone who grew up skating in the late 80s and throughout the 90s a lot of skaters were kinda assholes back then. It wasn’t exactly something the “good” kids did.
Most of the kids i grew up with skating in the 90s are now meth addicts
@@ten4k964 same maybe 1 in 10 that didn't go that way
Over the years I've realized just how important the filmer is. A good filmer can be a difference between landing or not landing a trick. He's there with you,and as a skater you have to know that this man want's this clip just as much as you do. Skater and a filmer have to be on the same wave. And you as a filmer,you have to know when to shut up,when to focus,when to cheer him up,when to motivate him,when to tell him to stop being a pussy etc... So all you skaters out there,appriciate your filmer. Sometimes they love skateboarding more then the skaters.
Not just the filmer it's anyone behind the scenes in skateboarding can really take the brunt of all the negativity especially with the worst attitudes that skateboarding can have with some people. There are definitely a goof amount of spoiled, entitled, violent and criminal types in the scene. Some tend to either grow up one day or hide themselves in the scene til the bitter end. Look at the man who sold the world doc to get an idea of how young teen and adult skaters can be. Not to mention old baker videos and the marketing of bad attitudes and whatever else. Of course, it's not all skaters just remember that's it is there like any other scene or culture.
@@orlandocarrasquillo4481 Watched that documentary 10+ years ago. Is a good one. In my opinion Baker didn't show bad attitude. At least not in a way the bad attitude is being talked about here. Baker boys were a group. They never teased Beagle for example. If anything,they were very inclusive. Shane Heyl got along the ride simply cuz he's a homie. In general people overreact to the whole early Baker thing. They were kinda like a rock band in their prime. A little to much partying and that's it... What later happend with people like Shane Cross,P-Stone,Van Wastell etc. was no on their team.
Also,Carroll and Rosenberg were very very young when this happend. They were kids pretty much. Carroll grew up in a broken home with no father and a mother who ren away with her boyfriend and left Greg and Mike behind alone in the house. On top of that he was a 17 year old skater,who was already a household name with a ton of attention on him. He had to feel that pressure while nobody told him how to deal with it.... I was friends with people who got a tiny tiny bit of success in sports while they were in high school and right away they got a HUGE head. And they had some guidance. Now imagine the skateboarding industry in the early 90's and being a 17 year old kid who's on top. I'm suprised more bad stuff didn't happen...
@@full6330name With Baker it was selling the exploits of TK and AD that was a black eye.
@@orlandocarrasquillo4481 Really ? How was their image any diffrent from the likes of Jim Greco,Dustin Dollin or even Ali Boulala who was pretty much a baker boy ? Simply because TK and Antwuan are black that doesn't change anything. TK specialy was doing great while he was with Baker. His problems started when he got off the team. Antwuan also had some real problems,he was constantly running into trouble and what was Baker supposed to do ? Act as if that's not happening ? The same way early Baker was like a rock band,the same way were Dixon and TK like rap/hip-hop superstars and I don't see anything taking them down. But please stop saying it was any different just cuz they are black. Theotis was not acting out,so he was not portrayed in that light. Some with Cyiril Jackson,Donta Hill or even Kader now...
Jacob you did your job cause after 30 years Mike Carroll's Questionable part still gives me goosebumps!
Props to Jacob for being cool about being bullied and shit, that’s rough
props to him for "being cool about it" but pure disrespect to the dudes who knew better and did it anyways. being absolute dogshit isn't part of skate culture, it's the result of poor parenting or poor choices.
@@lovelesstv Carroll grew up with no father and a mother who would run away with her abusive boyfriend. She would just leave Greg and Mike behind to live on their own in the house. Then come back and leave again. At some points even the food was a problem. And this was all happening when Mike was between 13 and 17-18.
Doesn’t excuse dishing it back out on other people. He was grown enough to realize right from wrong and knew he wouldn’t like to be treated like that by someone but treated others like that anyway.
@@PortalOvThaTornVeil thats how shit was back in the 90s, it was completely acceptable back then
@ShootinTheShit actually it was
i once had the opportunity to skate in cali with guy mariano and Gino. They asked us where we wanted to go skate, we could meet up with Mike Carroll at some school or go to the girl warehouse and skate the park in the back. They both said MC is a fucking asshole and most likely wouldnt acknowledge our existence so we chose to go to the girl park. It was an unbelievable experience. We had the park to ourselves for a while and then Gino and Mariano came in to skate with us and then Enrique Lorenzo and a few other famous dudes showed up to skate. Marc Johnson showed up and it was interesting seeing some of the famous people look at him like holy shit its him. Mariano and Gino didnt give a shit but the rest of them were in awe. He walked through the warehouse and peeked into the park before going to the office to speak to whoever was in there and didnt say hi to a single person. I dont mean me, some random asshole lucky to be there, i mean famous skaters.
no wonder Carroll is always alone. Nobody in the skating world is ever around him
The shit do you know he is always alone...?
If anyone I looked up to or highly respect treated me like shit I’d whoop em more than someone I didn’t like ngl
Asked him how it felt to hit Mike 🤣
It felt the same way as when he hit Elissa Steamer
@@bangbang5286 Whaaa? Expand pls my man
@@darrentinonzii340 just a joke bro ...atleast I hope it is
Mike Carrol and Mark Johnson we’re probably the most disappointing pros I got to meet lol . Maybe it was just a bad day for them though.
I've heard that before and I hope it's just bad days man
@@seanmichael2917 I can imagine going on tour is just as stressful as it is fun.
I used to work at Lowe’s and Mark came in. He was super nice and respectful, until I mentioned I liked his fully flared part and then his attitude completely changed and he looked super uncomfortable. It was very odd
@@ADaviiis that whole fully flared video was insane......
Mark just seems like he’s pretty self loathing and got some self destructive tendencies in him
What’s with Mike Carroll and throwing boards into water 💀
girl came to south africa .. met koston howard carroll and atiba all seemed pretty dikish .. and then rick mccrank the most friendly chilled dude ,.. even let me film a line of him .
Because he's Canadian eh.
I met McCrank in Tokyo on the Menikmati tour. Nicest dude
@@mergie gzz menikmati tour must of been heavy gunzzzz to see live !
@@knowledgegod2635cringe
Didn’t Carroll growing up get frequently punked by his older brother. Seem to recall him mentioning that in an old interview. Could be wrong though.
yea well jacob mentions that sorta..."mike grew up fighting his older brother.." So Greg must have toughened up mike a bit.
And they grew up without a father and a dead beat alcoholic mother who basically abandoned them as children and let her boyfriends beat the shit outta them. Gnarly childhood for both of them
They say to never meet your heroes but I can love Mike from a distance. Deep down I'm sure he's a pleasant person.
we are talking about 30 years ago my guy, they are friends now
Sometimes you become best friends after you fight.. mostly not though haha
I've beat up several friends and been cool to this day. Even one of my best friends
@@PositiveVibesVids your comment made me chuckle
@@MrJackandEmily 😂 😂 its respect.
@@MrJackandEmily the best friend... I didn't punch him in the face but I just had to go off on his ribs. For calling me fat and anorexic on two diff occasions. That was over a decade ago. Known him almost my whole life as my neighbor... and now he owns a business- I'm saving capital after a couple failed businesses.
We don't forget that shit. And I will make my come back.
Das sagen auch nur diejenigen, die nie gekämpft haben. Nach einem richtigen Kampf kann man nicht befreundet sein.
carroll was too short to be actin like that
You would have to convince me that Mike Carroll is NOT a dick!
3:20 best part
"to get to the other side"
Some people are just jerks . Not super surprised to hear. I’d enjoy seeing some people in the industry getting a beating.
This guy is cool as crap but two watches is suspect.
Leave the dude alone, hes conscious about his risk size
Yeah. This dudes probably got a shady side hustle haha
One's s Whoop used for telling vitals it's not a watch.
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You think 2 watches is suspect? I have this friend named Justice from back in the day. Idk if he's schizophrenic or what but he was have these episodes. I never saw this but apparently he was having an episode and he was wearing like 4-6 different watches that were all in different time zones haha. His little brother Ian committed suicide last Halloween RIP.
11:11? someone call bobby Puleo!
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Why does everyone sound so shocked? Mike Carroll having attitude is practically his trade mark 🤣
What a awesome story. Thanks
I swear to.god. Guys need to fight. If not. We just turn into passive aggressive bitches ,all pent up ,never getting over anything. Fighting is necessary sometimes.
Might be something to that
I agree
Someone tossing your favorite board into the ocean is pretty ruthless...pro or not most guys would be swinging 🤣🤣🤣
He is the best streeter from his generation
Mike Caroll is a legend, shut up
Tom Penny is a legend...Carrol aint sht.
It's called the famous star for a reason.
i always respected mikes skatin but when i met him in person he was pretty arogant i said hi mike at a party and he didn t even look at me
9:27 tru...I saw carrol @ plly pavilion fully flared premier.
My homie left saying "carroll was a d*ck....did u see that"
I said yea...I saw it
Grown man shit. Bless
I guess I had so much violence in my childhood that I don't think fights are cool. I think both people should just fight with words. Fights are just the lesser way of killing someone. Saying, there I could have killed you. It's so primitive really. Like monkeys swinging sticks. Still I had to teach my sons that if someone hits you immediately hit them back the exact same way. Not to snap like me. Lol
This totally tracks. I always got this vibe from Mike
Mike Carroll has a really stoic and a little to real with you personality that you have to had been friends with him since childhood to be around him regularly.
The best in your eyes…
Two watches?
i like carrol he got a edge to him
Always the smallest guys too
9 club! Take those ugly ass shoes off the shelf please.
We don’t need them , They need us!
LUV IT! LOL
Why two watches?
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Doesn't Mike Carrol sound like the biggest pile of toxic masculinity? This story plus keeping a 30 year grudge on Henry Sánchez ... Doesn't make me sad Crailtap is going down the drain
No one here has any idea, this guy is a clown.
"If you've ever been in a fight..." says the 50 year old guy who's been in 1 fight Lol 😆 😂 🤣
Chill he didn’t mean it like that
@@camronridley5912 still funny seeing him relive the moment so vividly like an alien abduction Lol Mike Carroll mentally scarred that boy
Still fought though
@@funkydankspliff he fought because he was scared, not because he is tough..big difference Lol
@@bangbang5286 you are a keyboard coward and clueless how physical combat works. SMH
Who Is This Old Guy & Why The Heck Is Wearing Two Apple Watches?
He knows what time it is..
His last name will give you that answer Lol
@@bangbang5286 ha ha it's funny cause it's antisemitic
@@jakejacobs5324 so what
@@jakejacobs5324 Lol
Filmers should only get paid two hundred dollars a month. Goes a long way saays jerone. Fuck that might be too much unless they take photos of pros and legends specifically
That's 50 dollars a week. Slave wages.
@@tombstonejones9581 they believe ams shouldnt even get paid until pro . from what ive heard they are almost the same thing we obvious;y know its different but yeah nine club doesnt believe ams should get paid and thsts fucked
This makes me really want to pick on Jacob. Seems like the kinda guy that deserves it.
Lmfao
He'd beat you up.
Nah, this makes more sense once u hear MJ’s falling out with Carroll & pros leaving lakai
So, it wasn’t that they bullied him. They wanted to see whether he was tough or not. It’s understandable as fuck and it happens with me and my homies that skate. We may argue sometimes, but we always have each other’s back and that’s what it’s about.
Also, we all have choices. Jacob could’ve just up and left and Mike didn’t have to do that, but it happened. Again, we all have choices and this was a decision that they both made.
Only weak minded people bring others down. Mike wanted to fight because he couldn’t control him and didn’t like that. Wack Juice
@@PortalOvThaTornVeil ohhh most certainly! It’s fucked up that people have to take it that far!
@@PortalOvThaTornVeil wtf u mean, fat Jake threw the first punch Lol if anything Mike is the victim here 😂 🤣 😒
@@bangbang5286 lmao 🤣