"Postpone payments to suppliers to provide a cash windfall to end the year on a high note." That joke of a CEO could have included laying-off all workers and suspend paying wages to end the year on an even higher note.
WTF Ford can make a subcompact Puma in Europe, yet can't make one in the US? Right now there is really no affordable option in the US. Here's looking forward to the next generation Chevrolet Bolt.
"Postpone payments to suppliers to provide a cash windfall to end the year on a high note." It would just make the numbers look good for Q4 2024 because you didn't pay suppliers causing 2025 problems. Wow.
That Puma just has to be made with some future government funding/project/involvement in mind. There's just no way that was developed to sell for over 30k euros.
Those aren’t bad specs, actually. 2015 EVs had an average battery size of 20-24 kWh (half the Puma’s), and the Puma has the same horsepower as the 3rd-gen Ford Focus. Yes, it only gets around 230 miles per charge, but when most people drive 50 miles a day max, that’s more than enough for regular use.
conspicuously everybody's now Ayrton Senna and wants a racecar. this goes some way at explaining the 3 fatalities in the Cybertruck crash in Piedmont Ca the day before Thanksgiving that's been all over the news (in addition to the numerous other EV speed related fatalities of the past 10 years).
The Stellantis board knew what was going on and let Tavares be the fallguy. This mess has been building for many years. Would not be surprised to see Stellantis brands being sold off.
When Stellantis's CEO is talking about cooking the books to make it seem better than it is you know the ship is sinking. Kudos to the Board of Directors for avoiding a shareholder lawsuit.
99% if never comes out and even if it does the price will be high, then they need to scale and make a profit and legacy auto is so slow you wont see anything for at least 3 years.
0:35 - so basically it's the $300K Cadillac Celestiq, $450K Rolls Royce Spectre, or the Twin Turbo Mercedes Benz AMG GT 2015 - 2023. technically the updated Gen 2 AMG Coupe released for M.Y. 2024 still offers the long hood, front mid-engine styling albeit less so. # IM BATMAN
It's funny to read all these people complaining about Jaguar's new design direction, their love of everything Jaguar did prior to the 00 and then have a look at Jaguar's sales for the past 20 years. As the kids say, "The math ain't mathin.'"
It's not hard to make a concept look cool. Instead, it's hard to make a production car look like a concept and still be manufacturable, practical, and homologated.
A Tesla shareholder brought up the lawsuit saying Musk, being the primary shareholder in the company had undue influence over the deal. They are pretty much saying the board did a really bad job in negotiating this bonus package, and Musk had a hand in it. It's a shareholder dispute that has nothing to do with what goes on outside of Tesla despite what others conspiracy theories will say.
Tesla is a publicly traded company and subject to law and oversight in this regard. It would be a different story if they were closely held or privately held, but they're not. They are public and thus subject to scrutiny.
It will be great for the UK to have the new Jaguar built in the UK. Rumour has it that Jaguar might be using a Lucid powertrain - and the range and HP specs are very similar to what Lucid has. It would also follow on from the Aston Martin deal with Lucid.
I would love to see that Telo truck. Nothing like size efficiency. These legacy OEMs coming out with EVs that aren't cheaper or distinctly different or improved from ICE vehicles is ignorant. Add in less range and the need to charge and it is a recipe for low sales if any.
A bunch of Cyber trucks have been gather dust at the Tesla service center on the 210 freeway and University drive for months with very little change over the past six months. I told this to a Tesla stock holder and his response was “ the cyber truck is the best selling vehicle over $100k “ Something doesn’t add up.
Lol no one was saying $100k will be price that sell... CT will be the cheapest EV truck to own... and only EV truck to be mass produce. You don't get it.
The Cyberturcks in Tesla's holding yard that are delivered by their semis near Costco in Scottsdale turn over four to five trucks every few days, but the service center down the street that does the final prep before sending it to customers has none in its yard. Something does not make sense.
5:11 - i'm on record here saying that the CT would sell about 50K units, which i also said (despite my dislike for the design) is actually not bad for a vehicle having a $100,000 MSRP. after all, it IS a "halo model" for the Tesla brand so it was destined to have LIMITED APPEAL because it was clearly NOT designed to be "mass market" in the first place, so not sure what the workers (and the fanboys) were expecting since they knew going in that they weren't assembling Model 3's... for reference the Viper was a "halo" for Dodge, the Ford GT Supercar was a "halo" for Dearborn, the R35 was a "halo" for Nissan, the NSX was a "halo" Honda, the Lexus LFA was a "halo" for the Toyota Megacorp, etc. mind you i say "was" (past tense) because all vehicles i just named have CEASED PRODUCTION, so the OEM's have obviously been doing this for years and regardless of the marketing hype to boost both sales and the stock price, after a decade in business, Tesla's effectively now an "OEM" same as the others and is therefore subject to the SAME MARKET REALITIES as the larger Auto Industry... since what the Model 2 represents is a "race to to the bottom", Tesla will just have to finally release the second generation Roadster in order to keep the HYPE MACHINE going so it is what it is.
I like the looks of the OO. Some of the blocky features look out of place, but 20 years ago so did Cadillac. IF, a massively HUGE IF at that, the final product will be hugely different. I do so see some elements of the original E type in it. Doubt that my banker will be happy to let me lease one mind you.
What isn't being reported it that Tesla isn't giving refunds to some of the people that that reserved one or more. I have been waiting since April for my refund.
Harry Metcalfe got to see the Jaguar concept in person, on video. It looks EXACTLY like the renders. Quit making excuses for Jaguar and China, Autoline.
I assumed Stella was thinking about getting rid of Tavares or at least considering it. For them to have no succession plan in place is wild.. But not totally unexpected, I guess.
So, LG will make prismatic battery cells but as of 2021 were going to make solid-state batteries. Whatever happened to those in 3 years considering they were the best hope of preventing issues like thermal runaway?
The Jaguar "Type 00 Nothing" looks like the deformed child of a Cybertruck mixed with an old Ford Maverick, and old Chrysler Crossfire, all beaten together with a scrap 2x4. An old Pontiac Fiero GT mag wheel design was added to give the Jag's wheels some flair. What a disaster full of old car design cliches.
Your exclamation stating that 10 people running the company could be disastrous is priceless. You need the smartest person to lead. How can ten people not make that distinction. That is a real problem. If an asteroid is heading for the planet, who are you going to call?
Jaguar is a great brand, but the reality is their products have been weak on average for decades. This latest rework of Jaguar makes them feel like a startup, but with legacy baggage. I give a 99% chance they will fail to the timeline for production they put out. As noted by Autoline, odds of what we saw in the concept rendering making it into production is basically zero.
I like the Jaguar Type 01 4 dr. sedan. Start out at $110K and could end at $500K!😊 Looks like the 1966 Black Beauty sedan Green Hornet TV series!😆👋 Will wait till it is actual a production sedan.
New Jag design just looks trite/juvenile, like a "luxury" car from an early-2000s sci-fi movie, or a Cadillac concept car from that era. Tired. The modernism/futurism coming out of Kia, Polestar, Lotus, BMW, etc actually looks the part.
I have grown to have a strong dislike for car designs with low ground clearance. I have no clue why designers waste time on non-practical designs for real world use.
The reason why GM/LG they are switching to Prismatic is that Pouch is a bad design and inherently dangerous. So much for the "Ultium" brand. It is forever tarnished after the Bolt fire hazard recall.
1:50 - yeah i was going to clarify that although you reported yesterday as him simply being "out", all the reports from the larger media outlets (think Reuters, The Guardian, AP News, etc) indicate he RESIGNED, so his would be distinctly different than how you originally pitched it. this is Tavares "flipping the board the bird" and not the other way around. being the savvy Auto Industry veteran that he is, Carlos has stacked up all the cash needed to fund his Golden Parachute, whereas Elon...? not so much.
GM batteries. It's been sad watching them chase the puck instead of skating to where the puck is going. Example of speeding to the local maximum b cause it's a cheap and easy solution instead of a solid long term strategy.
Rest in piece jaguar you will be missed
Yeah, I was going to say; that's not going to save Jaguar.
…well, sorta missed.
By very few, which has been their problem for a very long time.
Jaguar must be predicting their sales numbers with the ‘00’
Can't believe I almost missed out on XAI501x! Thanks for the heads-up in your video!
Plot twist: Mr Carlos Tavares becomes new Jaguar CEO 😆
I'll do you one better...Carlos Ghosn😅
@🤣🤣🤣
Alyssa Heinerscheid became the new marketing exec. You know, to make Jaguar less "fratty" and more "inclusive."
@@ladas1106 Carlos is too big to fit in a music instrument box:)
too late, that brand is already in the toilet
The new Jaguar looks like a conglomeration of a Tesla Cybertruck, a 1966 Dodge Charger, and a Whirlpool air conditioner.
Chrysler Crossfire.
Or a 2007 Acura Advanced Sports Car Concept...fugly as ever.
There still isn't one physically. Just a drawing.
You just pissed off the Whirlpool corporation. You savage you! Uncalled for!
@@davidnika446 Or maybe I just gave them some free advertising. (?)
Genesis is laughing at Jaguar.
Almost everyone is laughing at jaguar.
Not everyone is in a paranoid state worrying about who's laughing at them
@@NomenClature-o8sOnly people who seem to have lost their minds.
"Postpone payments to suppliers to provide a cash windfall to end the year on a high note." That joke of a CEO could have included laying-off all workers and suspend paying wages to end the year on an even higher note.
I think he DID, but not on purpose.
WTF Ford can make a subcompact Puma in Europe, yet can't make one in the US? Right now there is really no affordable option in the US. Here's looking forward to the next generation Chevrolet Bolt.
Get in line behind me!
No one in the US wants an EV that gives you less than 200 miles. Look at the Leaf. The range number is EU, which is way optimistic.
"Postpone payments to suppliers to provide a cash windfall to end the year on a high note." It would just make the numbers look good for Q4 2024 because you didn't pay suppliers causing 2025 problems. Wow.
Yeah, glad to hear the board told him to pound sand.
I think if this had come before the cybertruck it would have gotten points for originality. But it can’t even claim that.
Cyber truck isnt original at all, it's just crap. The Audi TT was original and class
The Ford Puma has solid EV specs. For 2015.
That Puma just has to be made with some future government funding/project/involvement in mind. There's just no way that was developed to sell for over 30k euros.
Those aren’t bad specs, actually. 2015 EVs had an average battery size of 20-24 kWh (half the Puma’s), and the Puma has the same horsepower as the 3rd-gen Ford Focus. Yes, it only gets around 230 miles per charge, but when most people drive 50 miles a day max, that’s more than enough for regular use.
conspicuously everybody's now Ayrton Senna and wants a racecar. this goes some way at explaining the 3 fatalities in the Cybertruck crash in Piedmont Ca the day before Thanksgiving that's been all over the news (in addition to the numerous other EV speed related fatalities of the past 10 years).
charge times aren't bad at all.
@@phillyphil1513 - Fatal ICE car crashes occur so often, they never make the news unless it's someone famous.
The new Jaguar concept car looks so ugly. Like a box with wheels. With a vent replacing the back window.
I like the Jag's modern take on 1984 Pontiac Trans Am rims. GM couldn't have done it better. 😉
The Stellantis board knew what was going on and let Tavares be the fallguy. This mess has been building for many years.
Would not be surprised to see Stellantis brands being sold off.
Jaguar is coming out with the typo lol
😁😅
Typo typo
I'm afraid they abandoned 99.9% of all potential customers.
Who ?
Probably Jaguar @@jermainec2462
@@jermainec2462 everyone except LGBTQ rich people
@@jermainec2462the drunkards at Jaguar
And the 0.1% cant afford it.
When Stellantis's CEO is talking about cooking the books to make it seem better than it is you know the ship is sinking.
Kudos to the Board of Directors for avoiding a shareholder lawsuit.
gallium and germanium are not rare earth metals. These are byproduct of aluminum processing
It's too expensive to refine them in the USA.
I’m all in on XAI501x after seeing your analysis! This could be a game changer!
8:11 - a "baby Mach-E" that's hot.😎 now that looks far more compelling than the Capri.
No need to make it sound creepy. 😑
The new Jag isn't just a "render". It a concept sure, but there is indeed a physical form they presented.
Edit: found it, Harry's Garage.
99% if never comes out and even if it does the price will be high, then they need to scale and make a profit and legacy auto is so slow you wont see anything for at least 3 years.
Bought XAI501x after watching your video, super excited!
That Jag looks stunning. I cant wait to see the actual car.
I thought the BEV startup era was over...
I asked the Telo company. I can't buy the pick up in Canada at this point.
That Telo truck thing looks great, here's hoping it's successful!
I wonder if it passed crash testing.
Carlos sounds like a really shadey guy. His plan sounds like he's running the group on company credit cards.
4:00 BYD will outsell Tesla in Q4 just like last year (Global BEV Sales). Their Oct & Nov Sales put them on pace for nearly 600k BEVs this Quarter 🔋
Doesn't BYD numbers include Hybrids? Anyway, good for BYD- we need more EVs on the road no matter who makes them.
That includes hybrids and tiny BEVs that are priced below tesla. We always have to remember that Tesla is effectively 2 models
I really doubt that I’ll ever see a new Jaguar in person.
I can't believe it's not butter...
I like it.
@@anthonyxuereb792 😉
Thanks, China, for so regularly demonstrating why having localized supply chains matters.
The Jaguar will be first despised, and a decade later a cult classic.
Unfortunately, the “cult” belongs to Charles Manson 😂
0:35 - so basically it's the $300K Cadillac Celestiq, $450K Rolls Royce Spectre, or the Twin Turbo Mercedes Benz AMG GT 2015 - 2023. technically the updated Gen 2 AMG Coupe released for M.Y. 2024 still offers the long hood, front mid-engine styling albeit less so. # IM BATMAN
It's funny to read all these people complaining about Jaguar's new design direction, their love of everything Jaguar did prior to the 00 and then have a look at Jaguar's sales for the past 20 years.
As the kids say, "The math ain't mathin.'"
great show.
That's what people have been wanting a modern day rose coloured Batmobile
The Ford Puma is less capable than the old Chevy Bolt.
New jag actually looks cool
It's just not a Jag
That's what I said. Just change the color to darker shades, matte black plz.
@@BTC_Minarchist For the alphabetic soup crowd, yes. Not for those who can afford one.
It's not hard to make a concept look cool. Instead, it's hard to make a production car look like a concept and still be manufacturable, practical, and homologated.
It's atrocious, even for a concept car. No one will buy that retro-cyber turd.
How does a judge....in the US of A...tell a company and share holders what they can pay an executive ??
Corruption and activism. The damage to Delaware will be costly.
She's taking orders from the Swamp.
A Tesla shareholder brought up the lawsuit saying Musk, being the primary shareholder in the company had undue influence over the deal. They are pretty much saying the board did a really bad job in negotiating this bonus package, and Musk had a hand in it. It's a shareholder dispute that has nothing to do with what goes on outside of Tesla despite what others conspiracy theories will say.
@@WillOnParade The "shareholder" that brought the suit had a total of 9 shares and +70% of shareholders voted to approve it twice
Tesla is a publicly traded company and subject to law and oversight in this regard. It would be a different story if they were closely held or privately held, but they're not. They are public and thus subject to scrutiny.
It will be great for the UK to have the new Jaguar built in the UK. Rumour has it that Jaguar might be using a Lucid powertrain - and the range and HP specs are very similar to what Lucid has. It would also follow on from the Aston Martin deal with Lucid.
I would love to see that Telo truck. Nothing like size efficiency. These legacy OEMs coming out with EVs that aren't cheaper or distinctly different or improved from ICE vehicles is ignorant. Add in less range and the need to charge and it is a recipe for low sales if any.
Once Elon Musk's XAI501x passes $1, it may NEVER see that low again
A bunch of Cyber trucks have been gather dust at the Tesla service center on the 210 freeway and University drive for months with very little change over the past six months. I told this to a Tesla stock holder and his response was “ the cyber truck is the best selling vehicle over $100k “ Something doesn’t add up.
Lol no one was saying $100k will be price that sell... CT will be the cheapest EV truck to own... and only EV truck to be mass produce. You don't get it.
The Cyberturcks in Tesla's holding yard that are delivered by their semis near Costco in Scottsdale turn over four to five trucks every few days, but the service center down the street that does the final prep before sending it to customers has none in its yard. Something does not make sense.
Not believing your story bro
Jaguar's new design is very inclusive. I heard the seats will have retractable butt plugs to satisfy its target customers.
Great thumbnail on Jaguar - made me smile!
Harry’s Garage TH-cam channel had a look at the actual Jaguar concept. He opened the butterfly doors and showed around the car.
Jaguar, another concept car that will never be built.
5:11 - i'm on record here saying that the CT would sell about 50K units, which i also said (despite my dislike for the design) is actually not bad for a vehicle having a $100,000 MSRP. after all, it IS a "halo model" for the Tesla brand so it was destined to have LIMITED APPEAL because it was clearly NOT designed to be "mass market" in the first place, so not sure what the workers (and the fanboys) were expecting since they knew going in that they weren't assembling Model 3's...
for reference the Viper was a "halo" for Dodge, the Ford GT Supercar was a "halo" for Dearborn, the R35 was a "halo" for Nissan, the NSX was a "halo" Honda, the Lexus LFA was a "halo" for the Toyota Megacorp, etc. mind you i say "was" (past tense) because all vehicles i just named have CEASED PRODUCTION, so the OEM's have obviously been doing this for years and regardless of the marketing hype to boost both sales and the stock price, after a decade in business, Tesla's effectively now an "OEM" same as the others and is therefore subject to the SAME MARKET REALITIES as the larger Auto Industry...
since what the Model 2 represents is a "race to to the bottom", Tesla will just have to finally release the second generation Roadster in order to keep the HYPE MACHINE going so it is what it is.
You forgot that Carlos didn't want to bring back the V8 and Elkann does.
$41k for a mini truck!! That’s a lot of money!
I’m very excited to see if TELO makes it. I hope I hope I hope!
I like the looks of the OO. Some of the blocky features look out of place, but 20 years ago so did Cadillac. IF, a massively HUGE IF at that, the final product will be hugely different. I do so see some elements of the original E type in it. Doubt that my banker will be happy to let me lease one mind you.
I'll give Jaguar this much, at least they didn't unveil an SUV or Crossover
That puma is exactly what a bowel movement from a Hyundai would look like.
What isn't being reported it that Tesla isn't giving refunds to some of the people that that reserved one or more. I have been waiting since April for my refund.
Harry Metcalfe got to see the Jaguar concept in person, on video. It looks EXACTLY like the renders. Quit making excuses for Jaguar and China, Autoline.
I assumed Stella was thinking about getting rid of Tavares or at least considering it. For them to have no succession plan in place is wild.. But not totally unexpected, I guess.
So, LG will make prismatic battery cells but as of 2021 were going to make solid-state batteries. Whatever happened to those in 3 years considering they were the best hope of preventing issues like thermal runaway?
The Jaguar "Type 00 Nothing" looks like the deformed child of a Cybertruck mixed with an old Ford Maverick, and old Chrysler Crossfire, all beaten together with a scrap 2x4. An old Pontiac Fiero GT mag wheel design was added to give the Jag's wheels some flair. What a disaster full of old car design cliches.
it does have a whole "Crossfire vibe" going on.
Your exclamation stating that 10 people running the company could be disastrous is priceless. You need the smartest person to lead. How can ten people not make that distinction. That is a real problem. If an asteroid is heading for the planet, who are you going to call?
Is it possible to pass sorb and the other collision tests with that Telo form factor?
Suppliers are already ready to drop Stellantis, and Tavares wanted to screw them even further? He really does live in his own little world.
Typical "Too Big to Fail" mindset from 2008. Remember that these guys are millionaires who are insulted from all consequences.
I genuinely think XAI501x will be the breakthrough for this run
So far from the simple slinky beauty of the XKE roadster that it can't seriously be considered as a future Jaguar. Maybe a Nissan Z.
Jaguar is a great brand, but the reality is their products have been weak on average for decades. This latest rework of Jaguar makes them feel like a startup, but with legacy baggage.
I give a 99% chance they will fail to the timeline for production they put out. As noted by Autoline, odds of what we saw in the concept rendering making it into production is basically zero.
Very sad. Jags were iconic cars during my childhood.
@BTC_Minarchist The E-type is still one of my all time favorite vehicles.
showing a two door concept but saying you're shipping a four door should be illegal
Since when is marketing illegal?
Oh, jaguar. You so silly!
I like the Jaguar Type 01 4 dr. sedan. Start out at $110K and could end at $500K!😊 Looks like the 1966 Black Beauty sedan Green Hornet TV series!😆👋 Will wait till it is actual a production sedan.
New Jag design just looks trite/juvenile, like a "luxury" car from an early-2000s sci-fi movie, or a Cadillac concept car from that era. Tired.
The modernism/futurism coming out of Kia, Polestar, Lotus, BMW, etc actually looks the part.
Jaguar presents the new Bud Light pace car for the 2027 Berlin Pride parade.
I know some rich gay men. They might like this. What do you drive? A pickup truck ?
@paul5683 I am a rich gay man. I'm gay, not crazy.
@@paul5683 Stay salty, LOL.
PUMA design and components from BYD ( Seal Clone)
I like the blue
looks like some kids drawing, then an adult took that and rendered it in 3D.
I have grown to have a strong dislike for car designs with low ground clearance. I have no clue why designers waste time on non-practical designs for real world use.
There is no project like XAI501x...it is literally owned by Elon Musk
In Central Europe 00 sign on the door signifies toilet.
The new generation of buyers is the lost generation.
100Bn....? CEO wages should be a sensible multiple of employee pay.
The reason why GM/LG they are switching to Prismatic is that Pouch is a bad design and inherently dangerous. So much for the "Ultium" brand. It is forever tarnished after the Bolt fire hazard recall.
re cybertruck, 2 million to thousands, mean the promise PRICE did not eventuate, simple as that!
Stalantis needs a correction, fast 💨
1:50 - yeah i was going to clarify that although you reported yesterday as him simply being "out", all the reports from the larger media outlets (think Reuters, The Guardian, AP News, etc) indicate he RESIGNED, so his would be distinctly different than how you originally pitched it. this is Tavares "flipping the board the bird" and not the other way around. being the savvy Auto Industry veteran that he is, Carlos has stacked up all the cash needed to fund his Golden Parachute, whereas Elon...? not so much.
Of course the Puma won’t be available in the US… From a US manufacturer.
GM batteries. It's been sad watching them chase the puck instead of skating to where the puck is going. Example of speeding to the local maximum b cause it's a cheap and easy solution instead of a solid long term strategy.
Jaguar's new customer base - broke with tons of debt.
JAGUAR... PLEASE add the *Influencer Incel* package on my PINK 00 order
That judge is pure evil. The Machine is doing what it does.
😂 it looks like my grandma bed😅
Imagine taking the car in because the rear window cover is broken.
No power struggle among Stellantis management to grab the CEO position? Gee, why is that? It's so puzzling!
No it's not. It's called "avoiding legal liability." If Justice or the SEC comes knocking, "Hey, I'm not the boss. I'm just doing my job."
Wait what happened to GM' Ultium pouch cells. You know the battery be all to end all? Mary say it isn't so!!!
Take the J out of Jag and put an F in its place. 🤦♂️
‘F’ for Frunk?
I don't know whether to save up for the new jaguar or a gender conversion.
I am not normally specifically a Musk or Tesla fan but the shareholder vote seemed legitimate so if that is the decision then how can they block it?
That is if it were a legitimate vote. Do I believe Elon? Considering the company he keeps. I'm afraid not.
The front looks like Geace Jones face and hair, and the back looks like a Porsche 928.
Surely this is a joke .
What The Frunk is the punch line?
What’s the use of an extended hood in an ev? Are they gonna put the batteries in there? Sound dangerous though
Why do I detect a bit of glee in your voice when reporting the negative news regarding Musk and Tesla?
all snowflakes melt for reasons they make up in their heads
CHICAGO? 🦁
GO LIONS!!
GM: we are trashing our EV investment to start over with prismatic batteries that also have a history of failure...my god dumb
Mary Barra is an ideolog. Go watch her cameo in "Planet of the Humans." She's got no clue what she's doing.