Nice to see an update on the lightning sorceress. I too prefer the nova build . No aiming, energy shield for protection, maxed static for full screens and the option to self wield infinty just make it so much better.
Lightning/Chain L sorc is one of my favorite PVM char. My version is a bit different: 4 Tal-rasha set (Orb+Amulet+Armor+Belt) I use Talrasha orb for that -15 to enemy lightning res, with a facet, I have -20 enemy LR on Orb, then Griffon, chance guard, Wartraveler, Soj+ 10 fcr LR ring, Mara. So in the end I have level 38 lightning, 350 MF, 120 fcr, -44 enemy resitstance (20 orb +24 griffon). I use mostly chain lightning, in P1, the chain lightning damage 1-13k (-44 enemy resistance) can one shot almost everything. Merc is using insight, because chain lightning consumes too much mana. In P1 don't need infinity. In P8, I would use Crescent moon + infinity. Cheers.
I prefer using chain lightning - it may hit for less but it is guaranteed damage to multiple targets without really having to aim or swap targets. Plus it is destruction from a distance and chains to targets off screen. For extra protection I don't max Nova out - it only adds 4% damage per level to CL and I prefer a little more security over taking 1.2 seconds to kill a mob rather than 1.5 seconds. I throw those points into Telekinesis and Energy shield. With a decent energy shield you don't need the resistances neither. Points are chucked into energy rather than health of course.
Phil, the videos over time have gotten so incredible. They were always incredible. But your growth as a d2r expert and how you deliver it is phenomenal. Keep it up!!
@@urnub6709 disregarding that I’m commenting on his delivery and how that is what makes him an expert, as a new player, super thankful he made this video and it was this concise and informative. Literally been out for years 🤓 looking ass
This is a real solid build but I think you could potentially do better with an enigma mage or even dusk depending on base str from anni and torch, it is of course going to take some pretty souped up 7mf/11 res SCs plus the odd 5fhr/res - ive always been a huge fan of the real 'real' max vita light sorc and the str from eni just gives you that much vita in the end, but yea those charms arent gonna come quick or easy on single player. Also I've never played with sunder, but I do remember light sorc scaling kind of poorly with player count pre-sunder, this seems like a different ball game though. Up to p5 was typically the sweet point back then if i recall correctly. Another slight deviation from my old cookie cutter kit would be dropping the fcr amu for maras while using magefists instead, imo worth dropping chancies for the mana increase plus up to 30 extra res from maras plus the +2 all skills for a meatier BO, my max vita sorcs were in the 2800 range buffed
Blizz is fun as it’s semi passive and defensive but man does it get annoying when monster don’t move and you can’t kill a monster while blizzing twice!
Been rocking the Nova sorc with 3 piece tal set for a couple months now, think I'll give this a try. Abysmal luck on the skiller charms so I only have 2.
I use Vipermagi instead of chain of honors phoenix instead of spirit and maras one Soj one faster cast ring damage isn’t quite as high but the redemption makes up for it.
Love my light sorc!! Been spending all my runes on sorc gear this last week.. grabbed a decent cta a little while back for 4 jah (3es 262) and it’s not bad at all! But I had to upgrade.. also bought an obsession for my cold sorc with 3cm 2blizz for 6 jah… the big purchase that really cleared me out was the 3es 664 cta staff!! She cost me about 35jah 20 in runes 700fg and a pair of 2 20 10cb ma gloves. Worth it!
Lightning is still good. Its just a different play style vs Nova. I personally like Nova style better, but Lightning is going to do better for all bosses. Cheers!
Hey Phil, do you have an opinion on playstyle for better drops? As in do you feel farming the same area 100 times will yield better drop results than doing all areas and staying in 1 game longer? Also, for rune drop odds, is a javazon that can clear cows in lets say a minute but a nova sorc does same amount in 2 minutes, is the zon gaining a huge edge with kill speed? or is it pretty close?
I would usually recommend people to farm multiple locations per game, more netertaining that way I believe. TH-camrs like myself only do the "500 meph runs" type of videos becasue it's just a random goal that sounds neat in a video title.
I don't understand why people don't put one of their "extra" skill points into thunderstorm. you pop it and forget it...and get essentially free lightning strikes.
hey sweet Phil. I have, in the span of 2 weeks, found a Jah and a Ber rune on Single player. I have never crafted a significant rune word above call to arms. what are your suggestions I use it for, given the low chance of finding additional ones soon? (oh and I also found a chem rune in the same time span but thats less relevant for rune words)
Enigma is your go to go no martter what if you have not one already.. it will enable maany other builds + good mf and armor if you're playing on a sorc
@@bivdog man, I'm glad I seen this. Was thinking about making obedience or crescent moon and giving it to the merc for a fire/lightning build. Dodged a bullet lol thanks
That's why self wielded infinity is so good on nova sorc because you get to use the - Res as well as the aura and 105 fcr is reachable compared to 117 for lightning
Try out chain lightning. Its much better than lightning in most cases. Many players look at the numbers and think that lightning is better, but it is not.
Question: I have an eth thresher for single player I was gonna make an infinity in. It’s for a merc but is this the best base if I wanna be able to have a sorc wield it as well? I don’t want my merc constantly dying
Phil, take a look at the OP Dream Sorceress, its crazy powerful at 33K dmg. Its obsurd even more powerful than a Paladin who specializes in Aura. Try it and make a vid. GG!
Let's say 2 classes have the exact cow clear speed, same # in same amount of time if they were never to stop but 1 person decides to take 3 to 5 seconds periodically to look at drops or pick things up, is that player actively devaluing their drop rate compared to a player who never stops moving? Any evidence or math behind that?
See I love the Infinity build with the Light Sorc. I use a Scythe with it and its absolutely destroys any other setups I've tried and I've tried them all at this point. Its the fastest farmer and super quick on boss killing that I have found even over my Hammerdin. So I am always blown away when people don't like the Infinity build with her. what didn't you like phil if you don't mind me asking? Thanks for the videos btw, you are the GOAT!
Iam new to diablo 2 was looking for soj for days now doing nm andarial runs with my lvl86 lightning sorc i have 350ish mf so far i found shit. Am i doing something wrong here or is it realy that much rng.
If you are on single player, make sure your not running players 1. Do 3 or even 7 if you can kill fast. Also it can just take forever. My first SOJ from nightmare andarial took over 1400 runs. but also I found one after less than 100. luck of the draw.
PPl sleep on Esutia's. Hitting those FCR breakpoints is a breeze. I have 13k cl on 200 mf and max resists and i didnt need to drop trousers for the 2/20 with resists. Those things are smoke em if you got em lol.
That’s not 56 to lightning damage that’s 56 to lightning resist to damage and maybe you were getting attacked with lightning maybe but no that doesn’t have anything to do with your damage plus the other emulate you shown was better than your ambulate in all facets, you could argue was just is important, but the 20 fast gas rate, and the two to all skills and the life and theit’s just as it’s a bit ambulate you did not
Well, 90% of the value of this build lies in getting to lv. 90++ so it's a nice build vid but ready up to grind for months to get all this stuff legitimately
And you have fast hit recovery charm but then again, you know you’re compensating your items for your resistances, and you can obviously get your resistance, covered through your charms and get better items, so hello
There are quite a few holes in your build I mean, it’s you even noted better items that your character could be having and if you had better charms and you could use those items and you wouldn’t have the deficiency, but this is this has holes in it everywhere
This is not a superior lightning, build for sorcerer or a superior magic fine build for sorcerers so I mean it’s a decent mix, but I know really change of honor and you’re literally having better items shown in the bit than you have on
Nice to see an update on the lightning sorceress. I too prefer the nova build . No aiming, energy shield for protection, maxed static for full screens and the option to self wield infinty just make it so much better.
Lightning/Chain L sorc is one of my favorite PVM char. My version is a bit different: 4 Tal-rasha set (Orb+Amulet+Armor+Belt) I use Talrasha orb for that -15 to enemy lightning res, with a facet, I have -20 enemy LR on Orb, then Griffon, chance guard, Wartraveler, Soj+ 10 fcr LR ring, Mara. So in the end I have level 38 lightning, 350 MF, 120 fcr, -44 enemy resitstance (20 orb +24 griffon). I use mostly chain lightning, in P1, the chain lightning damage 1-13k (-44 enemy resistance) can one shot almost everything. Merc is using insight, because chain lightning consumes too much mana. In P1 don't need infinity. In P8, I would use Crescent moon + infinity. Cheers.
I prefer using chain lightning - it may hit for less but it is guaranteed damage to multiple targets without really having to aim or swap targets. Plus it is destruction from a distance and chains to targets off screen.
For extra protection I don't max Nova out - it only adds 4% damage per level to CL and I prefer a little more security over taking 1.2 seconds to kill a mob rather than 1.5 seconds.
I throw those points into Telekinesis and Energy shield. With a decent energy shield you don't need the resistances neither. Points are chucked into energy rather than health of course.
200 fcr light sorc is best wearing 1 soj. its less damage than standard but sonic teleport speed is so fun
Phil, the videos over time have gotten so incredible. They were always incredible. But your growth as a d2r expert and how you deliver it is phenomenal. Keep it up!!
its literally the most common build used for years.
@@urnub6709 disregarding that I’m commenting on his delivery and how that is what makes him an expert, as a new player, super thankful he made this video and it was this concise and informative.
Literally been out for years 🤓 looking ass
This is a real solid build but I think you could potentially do better with an enigma mage or even dusk depending on base str from anni and torch, it is of course going to take some pretty souped up 7mf/11 res SCs plus the odd 5fhr/res - ive always been a huge fan of the real 'real' max vita light sorc and the str from eni just gives you that much vita in the end, but yea those charms arent gonna come quick or easy on single player. Also I've never played with sunder, but I do remember light sorc scaling kind of poorly with player count pre-sunder, this seems like a different ball game though. Up to p5 was typically the sweet point back then if i recall correctly. Another slight deviation from my old cookie cutter kit would be dropping the fcr amu for maras while using magefists instead, imo worth dropping chancies for the mana increase plus up to 30 extra res from maras plus the +2 all skills for a meatier BO, my max vita sorcs were in the 2800 range buffed
I noticed you dont have your printer listed under your peripherals
Blizz is fun as it’s semi passive and defensive but man does it get annoying when monster don’t move and you can’t kill a monster while blizzing twice!
Gotta appreciate this man's dedication to Diablo 2.
Give it a shot to the new D4 season aswell if you want Phil!
Might be fun
Love seeing Phil rocking the Michigan gear. Go Blue National Champs!
Had never played sorc made one last night and went lightning because I found a + to lightning staff, loving it just finished act one.
Been rocking the Nova sorc with 3 piece tal set for a couple months now, think I'll give this a try. Abysmal luck on the skiller charms so I only have 2.
It should be safer. Stand back, cast a couple of chain lightning, then clean up with lightning. I only use static on bosses
I did not read that as "magic find" 🤣🤣🤣
I use Vipermagi instead of chain of honors phoenix instead of spirit and maras one Soj one faster cast ring damage isn’t quite as high but the redemption makes up for it.
I’ll take Light over Blizz ANY DAY.
Blizz is a lot cheaper
K.
@@purplehaze9977 correct. Problem with light is you need good gear for it to be really really powerful. Blizz doesn't take much gear to be decent.
Love my light sorc!! Been spending all my runes on sorc gear this last week.. grabbed a decent cta a little while back for 4 jah (3es 262) and it’s not bad at all! But I had to upgrade.. also bought an obsession for my cold sorc with 3cm 2blizz for 6 jah… the big purchase that really cleared me out was the 3es 664 cta staff!! She cost me about 35jah 20 in runes 700fg and a pair of 2 20 10cb ma gloves. Worth it!
Lightning is still good. Its just a different play style vs Nova. I personally like Nova style better, but Lightning is going to do better for all bosses. Cheers!
Nova is just super AFKable and almost as quick if not quicker in some areas.
Rocking 4 piece tala for -15 light res 19/11 griffs, spirit shield, chancies, and cow king boots because i havent found war travs yet lol.
I like nova, but I'm not a fan of using lightning.. would a frozen orb + nova sorc be viable? since so few synergies are needed?
I think phil did a short compilation of dual spec sorcs like yesterday or today. I think what you mentioned is there.
i've tested some builds and for going cold with sunder charms now frozen orb+blizzard combo slaps hard and it's so fun to play
you could also do frozen orb+cold nova, but i found blizz+orb more fun tbh.
Hey Phil, do you have an opinion on playstyle for better drops? As in do you feel farming the same area 100 times will yield better drop results than doing all areas and staying in 1 game longer? Also, for rune drop odds, is a javazon that can clear cows in lets say a minute but a nova sorc does same amount in 2 minutes, is the zon gaining a huge edge with kill speed? or is it pretty close?
I would usually recommend people to farm multiple locations per game, more netertaining that way I believe. TH-camrs like myself only do the "500 meph runs" type of videos becasue it's just a random goal that sounds neat in a video title.
Any tips on how to do this build with self wield infinity and for HC. Is energy shield the way to go.
I don't understand why people don't put one of their "extra" skill points into thunderstorm. you pop it and forget it...and get essentially free lightning strikes.
should be done 100%.
Maxroll recommends it. It's what I'm going to when I respec my enchantress
during my playthrough i checked a lot of times my difficulty because I can't believe she clear players8 so easily.. good pvm character😮
hey sweet Phil. I have, in the span of 2 weeks, found a Jah and a Ber rune on Single player. I have never crafted a significant rune word above call to arms. what are your suggestions I use it for, given the low chance of finding additional ones soon?
(oh and I also found a chem rune in the same time span but thats less relevant for rune words)
Enigma is your go to go no martter what if you have not one already.. it will enable maany other builds + good mf and armor if you're playing on a sorc
Ive been rocking frost nova using the 2 synergies blizz and orb no infinity eshield
So if your merc is wielding infinity you DO NOT receive that -51 enemy lightning res?
Correct. You only get the benefit from the conviction aura
@@bivdog man, I'm glad I seen this. Was thinking about making obedience or crescent moon and giving it to the merc for a fire/lightning build. Dodged a bullet lol thanks
That's why self wielded infinity is so good on nova sorc because you get to use the - Res as well as the aura and 105 fcr is reachable compared to 117 for lightning
correct
What about wearing Crescent Moon and using UMed Viper as armor? Option?
Lightning is for all of us console players were nova telestomp does not work as good as PC
Poison nova build can clear every area in the game that’s why he’s my main. I need to make a lightning sorc tho
Link me a build please
Try out chain lightning. Its much better than lightning in most cases. Many players look at the numbers and think that lightning is better, but it is not.
Chain lightning worse than lightning in every circumstance accept rushing normal and nightmare. IMO
So why is Thunder Storm never played, out of curiosity? Damage seems low but it seems to stack on top of lightning damage just fine?
Question: I have an eth thresher for single player I was gonna make an infinity in. It’s for a merc but is this the best base if I wanna be able to have a sorc wield it as well? I don’t want my merc constantly dying
I believe it is. Requirements are indeed high, but probably the best balanced between spears and polearms
@@bivdog thank you
Eth mancatcher is better from what I read.
Very nice. I agree, nova is more fun and lazy.
Still only ever played cold. Need to try light or nova
What happens if i self wield infinity as a weapon swap just for lightning immunes...since lightning sorc is heavy on mana
I got a eshuta wit a lite facet in mine and a self weild infinity
Phil, take a look at the OP Dream Sorceress, its crazy powerful at 33K dmg. Its obsurd even more powerful than a Paladin who specializes in Aura. Try it and make a vid. GG!
Is Infinity/Dream a legit combo on A2 merc, or is the loss of IAS from Andy's too painful?
No it’s not worth it , waste of runes
Im at 58k lighting lvl 95 top helm is the 3 to light skill 20fcr socket 2os with 5/5 light facts pumps more than a griffions.
I still prefer Blizz/Frozen Orb even tho it doesn't scale as well with god-tier equips :p
Bone Necro was also gg! 💯
Why Threshsocket on p1?
Let's say 2 classes have the exact cow clear speed, same # in same amount of time if they were never to stop but 1 person decides to take 3 to 5 seconds periodically to look at drops or pick things up, is that player actively devaluing their drop rate compared to a player who never stops moving? Any evidence or math behind that?
What if you stop to scratch your balls for 10 seconds?!?!?!
@@tbl268 This has already been proven to increase your drop odds. I'd recommend this strategy.
See I love the Infinity build with the Light Sorc. I use a Scythe with it and its absolutely destroys any other setups I've tried and I've tried them all at this point. Its the fastest farmer and super quick on boss killing that I have found even over my Hammerdin. So I am always blown away when people don't like the Infinity build with her. what didn't you like phil if you don't mind me asking? Thanks for the videos btw, you are the GOAT!
Oh you aren't running Nova, okay nvm lol I think Nova goes better with the Infinity setup than lighting as an attack.
I almost always end up playing as a lightning sorc.
How many hours does it take to get to this level? Hahaha amazing man! 😂
I wonder why D2R just doesn't standardize faster cast lol
I know that says Magic Find sorc in the thumbnail... but I choose to read it otherwise. You can't stop me!
How to use barbarian skills??
Why do you talk about negative poison resist on Andariel’s Visage? On mine and everywhere else I look it’s a negative fire resist
What about CBF?
Iam new to diablo 2 was looking for soj for days now doing nm andarial runs with my lvl86 lightning sorc i have 350ish mf so far i found shit. Am i doing something wrong here or is it realy that much rng.
Expect to grind for way longer than that.
RNG. Could happen tomorrow, could wait til next week
I farmed 40 unique rings from NM Andy with 790+ mf and out of those 40 rings 2 were sojs.
If you are on single player, make sure your not running players 1. Do 3 or even 7 if you can kill fast. Also it can just take forever. My first SOJ from nightmare andarial took over 1400 runs. but also I found one after less than 100. luck of the draw.
And I'm from Michigan too!!! By port Huron
if iron golem from metalgrid woud not die i woud play plague iron golem with this sett up
PPl sleep on Esutia's. Hitting those FCR breakpoints is a breeze. I have 13k cl on 200 mf and max resists and i didnt need to drop trousers for the 2/20 with resists. Those things are smoke em if you got em lol.
nothing beats full damage speed run light sorc with nearly 0% mf. Shit drops a lot of good stuff just by killing
Not sure what are you looking for with this GG gears
Go blue!
You look like a guy I work with at motherson
I like blizz.
That’s not 56 to lightning damage that’s 56 to lightning resist to damage and maybe you were getting attacked with lightning maybe but no that doesn’t have anything to do with your damage plus the other emulate you shown was better than your ambulate in all facets, you could argue was just is important, but the 20 fast gas rate, and the two to all skills and the life and theit’s just as it’s a bit ambulate you did not
Well, 90% of the value of this build lies in getting to lv. 90++ so it's a nice build vid but ready up to grind for months to get all this stuff legitimately
Your damage is effective but obviously not the best it it can be by far
And you have fast hit recovery charm but then again, you know you’re compensating your items for your resistances, and you can obviously get your resistance, covered through your charms and get better items, so hello
lol u lost me instantly at the isted occy. Waste of an ist on that rng suicide wand
There are quite a few holes in your build I mean, it’s you even noted better items that your character could be having and if you had better charms and you could use those items and you wouldn’t have the deficiency, but this is this has holes in it everywhere
Woot
you have a character that 1 shots everything then why you play or grind. sc for girls.
You’re a skill GC’s are also average
I have nothing knowledgeable to say...
This is mid all over the place I mean good luck to you
Lol bro. You've commented like 30 times. Calm down and make your own video lmao.
Most of this video is filler.
This is not a superior lightning, build for sorcerer or a superior magic fine build for sorcerers so I mean it’s a decent mix, but I know really change of honor and you’re literally having better items shown in the bit than you have on
This is not a god to teir anything