Acer Nitro 5 - Dead by liquid damage, Acer service asked £1000 for this repair, can we fix it?
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"We have picture!"
My favourite phrase of 2023 just got renewed
It's just a PC, if it boots, you get picture ?
That's CraaaZy
Oh! That joy on yr face when u see 'picture'... Everytime...
Even when he replaces the capacitor, he does it in his own way (two paths with a curved capacitor).
Bigger is better😂😂
Hi , the second guy cames with a multimeter and then he heard a beep on those components, I find it , let's remove the short 😂😂
we have picture, that's crazy, it is working, i can't believe.😀😀😁😁
It makes me smile EVERY time i heard it ! 😁😆
maybe the technical team removed those coils to make sure the motherboard could not be repaired? - basically handicapped the board on purpose!
100% 👍
He said they gave the laptop to a guy, who probably thought those were shorted capacitors.
Official repair centers don't even try to repair motherboards, they immediately offer replacement
That is making me sad every time I hear. Just a waste of money and electronics.
Unpopular opinion. Sorin>>>>>> nrf. If I had a gaming laptop that was damaged I know there are chances sorin will try way more than him. Just sure about the dodgy repairs😂
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Why you do that ? It's tash, only hobby people need it for $50, repair it, use it ?
multimeter, work for 3 hour on it ??? HOBBY ONLY !!!!
any company will just recycle it now, not willing to invest money in old trash !
I'll take a dodgy Sorin repair any day. I wish I was half as good as Sorin. Love your work
When I hear missing inductor here comes the proper calibrated fuse or wire
to hear "we have picture " always makes me smile :)
nice repair, word of warning never plug in the NVME while battery or power supply is plugged in. I have seen motherboard killed by doing this, sends voltage to the pch
This literally happened to me once on my older hp. I just wanted to do a simple ssd upgrade, saw a tiny little spark when doing the new drive amd then after that the mobo was toast. I eventually figured out it's a tiny chip that got fried (not the pch in my case)
Love your videos! So informative and addicting to watch. Keep them coming! Thank you
A classic Sorin repair :) Wonderful
that's a proper nice toothbrush Sorin! I can't believe! 😅✌️
Yea, iz craazy! 😅
The entire situation has a lot of luck, not the customer, because you are extremely good at what you are doing. 😎
Maybe the guy who wanted to repair the board before found the coils shorted to ground because of the shorted capacitors on the other side of the board and thought that by disableing the power sources will make magic like removing bypass capacitors... why it doesn't start without 3.3 ldo?😁
Acer pricelist:
1 capacitor 333£
1 proper calibrated fuse (aka PLM) 0.5£
Nice job Sorin!
Well, coils well be "shorted" anyways, even without shorted caps 😊
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Hey Sorin. Been a while since i watched some of your vid's. It is good to see that you are now using water, instead of petrol! (not just any water either}. You once mentioned that capacitor's are not that important. It is fantastic that now you realize the importance of them. But size or value does not matter? I loved the diagonal postioning of them Remarkable.And without any hot glue. Impressive. You even said you were dodgy throughout this vid. Love you. Happy New year to you and family.
really like you , and the way you try troubleshooting issues
Wow,,,thanks Sorin ...am grateful for all insights
Sorin ! Your videos are pure addictions !!!! Love your work, now and always :)
Sorin, I love all of your videos. Fun and exciting to watch! Keep em coming.😊
Sorin . Muchas gracias desde Colombia. Lástima que ciertos matices de la reparación se pierdan debido al idioma. Ya quedan pocas personas en el mundo como tu, con ese ánimo de compartir.
Another great repair Sorin.
I learning from every videos thanks lot
Another magical job, you make me feel satisfied too.
Well done Sorin brilliantly done thanks 😊
Ești un erou! Ai reușit să deconectezi și să reconectezi un nvme în timp ce laptopul funcționa fără să-l strici.
AI dreptate! Sorin lucreaza cam neglijent... A reparat acea zona din dreptul ssd-lui fara sa-l deconecteze...
Probabil ca din cauza caldurii, niste pini ai slotului M2 erau in scurt si s-au reasezat la introducerea ssd-lui... Mi se zburleste parul cand ma gandesc.
Plus ca inductorii pe care pe care i-a inlocuit Sorin cu litza nu erau necesari, acelea sunt PS-le de 3.3 si 5v si au acelasi chip ca driver, adamantIT are un video.
@@gabrieln5357 cumva, cred ca acei inductori ar fi pe post de filtru suplimentar. Da, sa fiu sincer, cand am vazut ca Sorin scoate SSD--ul fara sa deconecteze alimentarea (bateria si incarcatorul) m-am uitat asa cu ochi mari. Spun eu in gand, cum naiba a reusit fara sa provoace daune SSD-ului. 😃
Cand ma uit la Sorin ma gandesc la Haru din Beverly Hills Ninja. Cine o fi Gobei!? Sotia?!
newbie technician tought those two inductors is capasitor 😂😂😂,,
Crazy days already. Happy new year 😅
I've got a gaming laptop myself and treat it very delicately after watching all your videos on them! I didn't take in to account the repairability of such a laptop when I purchased it.
Wow.
Once again Sorin, you've worked your magic. It's always a pleasure to follow you and see the quality of your work you do.
Excelente tu vídeo!....muy educativo!....un saludo desde san Cristóbal , Táchira , Venezuela.....una pregunta....no estoy claro de la funcion que ocupan esas bobinas en el circuito ya que no vi el schematic de la board....pero al menos que esos inductores (bobinas) solo tengan la funcion de filtrar corrientes parasitas pues estaria bien lo que hiciste de solo quitarlas y colocar un alambre (puente) en el sitio ....porque un inductor a pesar de medir casi cero ohmnios (ohmn) al igual que un simple alambre pues no funcionan exactamente igual....un inductor es un alambre enrollado sobre un nucleo y calibrado para obtener cierto valor en henrios (unidad de medida de un inductor) y se calcula para almacenar cierta energia....en una fuente buck donde tambien se implica una bobina con capacitores y algunos mosfets pues te aseguro que no funcionaria correctamente la fuente su se instalara un simple alambre en el lugar de un inductor o bobina ya que esta ultima almacena un valor de energia por cada ciclo de oscilacion de los Mosfets presentes en la fuente buck....seria bueno que aclarara la funcion de esas bobinas en ese momento....gracias y aprecio y aprendo con cada video tuyo....saludos
Buna dimineata Sorin.
Sorin Guru....Respect
Maybe some resistors on liquid damaged site are current sensors and seemed corroded, exactly conected to SSD area of the board.
Good job mate 👍
Awesome repair !
great work luv ur catchphrase very nice laptop very nice
That was magical✨🎩🔮. Hats off.
Amazing!!! Ca de obicei!😄👍
NICE TECHNIQUE
PROFESSOR
I admire you sir, how I wish I av such techniques
How a car mechanic would say....God loves my customer....he is such a lucky person.....lol
Lucky is nothing but hard work and good preparation...
@@johndicarlo225"... Lucky customer..."-gaming laptops breakdown very fast...last less than normal ones...
It is like a puzzle. Random parts have been removed by someone. Can you find it?
Salut, Sorin chiar ai spus bine, un client norocos, a scapat usor...😅
amazing as always..
The are of teaching. the best teacher
28:27 best moment in every video Sorin! ☺
so nice thanks
We have picture i was waiting to hear that moment 😅
You should be an eye surgeon.
We have picture!!!
:D
Interestingly, when I worked for the local IBM PC dealership, I was told that if one wanted a real IBM technician to look at an issue with a PC or PS/2 system (back in the late 80's-early 90's) you would be charged $200/hour with a two hour minimum. So even before the tech set eyes on your system you were $400 out of pocket. In ~1990. Fortunately we charged a bit less (but not a heck of a lot less, to be sure).
I worked at a IBM repair depot back in the late 90s early 00's, we were contracted by a few manufacturers (Sony, HP/Compaq, IBM). Our rates were right around $150/hr(maybe $125, cant recall), with a 1.5 hr minimum. But back then people were willing to spend that much since desktops and laptops were still quite expensive. Not like now where you can pickup a laptop for $300. These days people are lucky to charge $100/hr, with $75 or less diagnostic for a no fix. Plus there are way more people doing repairs these days, back then you couldn't find anyone do to some rework on a circuit board. We did, but charged crazy amounts of money for that. Don't even get me into data recovery jobs, that was straight highway robbery.
@@housinit I repair laptops and charge GB£75/hr. I also charge a GB£30 diagnostic fee and if I have to travel my time starts from when I leave my house and finishes when I get back to my house. I have no shortage of work and am retired at 55 thanks to poor laptop design, dodgy repair jobs from other techs and the fact that most people with a computer have no idea how it works, They only care that it switches on and when I explain the problem you can see their eyes glaze over🤣🤣🤣🤣
The not so dodgy Sorin did another wonderful repair. PS. Why the inductor was removed, I bet the Acer service technician didn't remove the motherboard and saw the short there and was still shorted due to caps other side of the board. They're lazy and want to take 1k for a ez motherboard swap. Once again, great repair.
Nice one
Nice job sorin. If acer asking 1000 how much as a repair shop we should charge . !!!
Watching later, already liked
Last Nov.(a few days before dec.) Altex (repair service, in capital buc, after sending laptop from province there) asked for 1000eur for a Asus ROG motherboard , for a 16 inch or 17 model , they sayed the motherboard is dead. I manged to reset properly the board after I checked for shorts as you always showed us. (had no short circuit's on main) - it seeme'd to be a bios issue , had a previous update , but I could not track down properly the initial problem .(I was glad I did not have to do anything except new thermal-paste). L.E. I pull out also everything-to properly reset the laptop- leaving screen,mb,power,then plugged ram+kb/pv button (pulled all, wifi, trackpad,including the nvme SSD , that may have issues after a overvolt , most of them have baaad firmwares aniways.)
Do all the keys on the keyboard still work, or are some of them responding poorly? Which is usually the case when a cup of tea has been poured over them. Nice repair, two caps. All it took! And I see one tiny cap is missing on the left 3.3v Buck converter. I enjoy your videos.
Rosin is a good isolator, but rosin also reacts with moisture from the air to create an acid ...
you superman laptop sorin🎉
Proper calibrated coils 😎
U R A Genius.
Hi Sorin and others! I am scratching my head a little as to why was it ok to replace those PL marked inductors on presumably the 3.3 and 5V rails with just a single strand of copper wire. I mean I do understand that an inductor or coil is in essence just a piece of wire but I thought that the buck regulator modules for the 3.3 and 5V would rely more on the correct micro Henry value of the inductor to work correctly. Will this botch fix stay stable over time? Is the uH value of the wire strand in the same ball park as a typical inductor used for those regulator modules or are those inductors just additional filtering that's not required just with decoupling caps sometimes? Looking forward to your answers. Thank you!
he got me there when he said lets clean it with water
14:22 I know!!! Is your fault! You say: "No capacitor, no short". We extend: "No inductor, no short". Sorin does not (usually) replace the capacitors. We do not replace inductors even if they are good and removed for nothing. We check a coil for a short circuit, discover that it is shorted and eliminate it. We do not replace with another because, obviously, that is also shorted.
We remove everything from the board and wait for it to work. If not, we ask for 1,000 pounds for replacing the motherboard. :)
Fun, Experienced, Repair.
Maybe the person who removed the inductors cant distinguish between them & capacitors and thought they were 0 ohm shorted capacitors
that cap found a new home
Must be some kind of new years resolution.... to replace capacitors! It won't last 😂
Awesome
Neata!
Good job Sorin
28:26 always looking for this first
I ordered brand new pc and when i assembled it because of failed ram oc i couldnt boot it. It was like ttly black and dead. All i had to do is to re seat ssd for some reason and it was back booting. Not sure what causes that.
Great great.
On,just in time. I have same modrl with gc not detected. The gpu, ryx 2060, has .7 v at coils with ~1 ohm resistance. The gpu is becomes hot with fans spinning at full speed. Some tried to reflow gpu before. Any advice pl.
Manufacturers new sign on PCBs, PCW, proper calibrated wire 😂
Sorin maybe I'm not right but at one component has hole on the video 13:54 by marking CD32 or I'm wrong ?
@priekabos22: Yeah, you're right! That little black circle or dot just above the gray stripe or negative terminal of a tantalum capacitor? ... Hmm. If one of my technicians reported that to me, of course I would go check it out and, whatever it was, I would order its replacement without discussion! Thank you very much for your observation and comment. All the best.
What??¡¡¡¡¡ Sorin replacing capacitors? I think you're getting old¡¡¡¡ (Joke) 😂😂😂
All oficcial service centers dont do board repairs,just board swaps.For them its easy,reliable,cost effective and fast.And most of all, they dont need to invest in highly skilled labourers.And lets not forget, their goal is to fix machines that are stil within warranty,not outside.
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maybe he thought they were caps.
That's what I was thinking too 😂
@@preytec probably if he was following Sorin and he was excited to try it himself , he might have got it wrong thinking that everything that looks like a ceramic cap is a cap.
@@winlose3073Forgetting to read the marking on the board (PL****).
Nice video🙏🙏🙏.
I wish i could come and Learn from you 😋
Maybe they thought they were capacitors because they would be “shorted”and so they removed them. But still, as noted, they were more like torn off than desoldered so that’s a sign of amateur work.
Nothing worse than an expert amateur.
Excellent work by the expert expert.
👍Perfect👍
Is it safe to replace coils with wire?
That depends on the purpose of that coil.
An inductor is a wire, so yesish. Coils, as in a power supply have quite a bit more windings, so not so much. Power supply coils usually don't go bad. Inductors don't usually go bad either but removing them cuts the connections. So nothing works, as can be seen in the video.
But its properly calibrated 😅
@@dimitristamatakis2431 well, thats true. It is working, so it must be. (Hinny2005: that inductor is the input side of that dc-dc power supply, most likely there for nose reduction. It is not important. Most laptop mothetboard ive seen dosent even have one.)
@@dimitristamatakis2431 That is correct, got to calibrate it 😛Or else it won't work
My man just replaced 2 inductors with a microscoping barber wire
We have picture 🎉🎉
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No keyboard check?
Since the liquid passed through it I think there is some possibility that it is ruined
what about the keyboard? I think it's likely keyboard is not working fine ..... liquid come from keyboard side ...
Don’t you need to replace those coils? How is calibrated wire sufficient? 😮
If you real technician you don't need coil, coil contains wire itself
@@skjatayumobileandlaptop1013 A piece of wire is not the same as an inductor. If what you say was true, there would no need for inductors, just wires.
@@somewaresim that would be true for very high frequencies, there inductance can fluctuate insanely with everything - paths, traces, even the forms of the conductors, but at these frequencies it wont matter
I think you need a bigger power supply 🙂
That's CraaaZy
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it can be stupid but the guy that diagnosed the laptop could thought that the inductors are shorted and removed them by mistake because of lack of knowledge :D
...According to my knowledge, an "inductor in short" is a contradiction in terms.
Sorin San did exactly that!
@@florincostea2235 I didn't express myself properly - by measuring short across them, he thought that they are faulty
We have picture :))
I can't believe!
That's crazy..
Loooollllll
Unbelievable👍😍🤩
In Greece burn the io ..or chip set do not technical repair and sell motherboard .... Many laotop in my shop no fix ... Sorry for my English
Sorin and dear Viewers.
Can you define if there's any difference between EC chip (Embedded Controller) and Super AIO chipset? All i mean, is than some people like you Sorin call it EC Chip, but if i'm not wrong, back in the old days you called it, super AIO, so i believe it's the exact same thing.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
Allow me to share these observations:
1.- EC = Super I/O, they are correct, widely accepted synonymous terms. (12:51) Observe U6, KB9052QD, manufacturer ene. It's a Super I/O or EC (whatever name you prefer to use). I in particular love that it does NOT use reballing.
2.- Super AIO? That is a term used in aeronautics, it is mainly applied to dedicated printed circuit boards for flight controllers.
3.- Chipset? It is a term that applies to processors (CPUs) with graphics (APU/GPU) integrated in the same assembly (packaging) that Intel applies generically to its ICs of this class. Speaking of them; Reballing is NOT the problem but rather finding parts with guaranteed functionality from a reliable supplier. Greetings and I take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy New Year.