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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2012
- We went to Monterrey, Mexico with portrait photographer Stefan Ruiz to document the "Cholombiano" street culture of sticky sideburns and stoner cumbia jams.
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it saddens me when people cant appreciate individualism. while i would never dress or style my hair like this i still think its amazing that there are such unique people in the world.
Well said. People like these add a little color and life to the world.
individualism? That, like every culture or subculture, is a combo of many influences past and present. Beyond the obvious influence of Mexicano, Columbian Cumbia, and U.S. Chicano Cholo culture, the Cholobiano dance is almost exactly like Northern Indigenous fancy dancing, for example. I get what you're saying but American individualism is a disease in my view. These kids are deeply embedded in a very collectivist INDIGENOUS history and culture that just happens to still suffer from the effects of colonialism and modern capitalist imperialism. Yes, they're brilliant!
I see a lot of people coming here after the Netflix movie.
The ending was upsetting ( in my opinion ) i was kinda hoping he didnt get deported and lived a happy ending with Lin hahhaha
Uh duhh
What movie?
Neta! ? 🤣
Yesss
So unique At least they got the balls to express themselves,something most ppl are scared of
I’m saying 💯💯 I wished those time come back
They look ridiculous
@@HetYaom 💯
@@califaern3sto you’re a grown man with an anime pfp. that’s really ridiculous.
those dudes are living in 2036
I don't have the balls to pull off any of that.
Ol'Pete haha
More like 1986. Nothing new under the sun my friend
@@JerkVegas86 You're right. Everyone in this generation believes they set trends it's already been done
😆😆😆
I'm Mexican and I don't understand why people are "embarrassed of being Mexican" because of these kids. Everyone has different styles of clothing/hair. Just because it doesn't conform to your idea of "normal," or better yet, "civilized" doesn't mean you have to ridicule, embarrass or shame them for expressing themselves in their own way.
but fuck tho... no, i mean lets butt Fuck.
+Firelord Ozai +A Bad Man
Please do not undermine my comment by trying to "flatter me" with deragotary statements. Thank you
+Patsy M nobody is undermining your comment. soy mexicano igual que tu and i feel the same way but daaaaamn gurl!
gracias por el halago pero igual siento que tu comentario lo pudiste expresar de otra manera en vez de ser vulgar.
verdad! everyone's different in their own special way! peace to all ! LATER LATES ND' ALRRATOS! ;-) ;-) ;-)
Boyo, that was the longest introduction i've seen. More than half the vid had nothing to do with the Cholombiano street culture.
the intro was for the our boi stefan ruiz, he a beast
LOL, fax...
@@ricardosmith2905 tru
Their creativity in their self expression is beautiful. I love the use of colors ,textures, and attitude to make their own way. Simply beautiful.
Mexico is definitely diverse AF. Stop the hate, our own paisanos hating on each other for our choices of clothes or music is disgraceful. #Huevos✊🏽
holy ghost I definitely understand this hermano and it’s mostly unknowledgeable kids that we’re raised with no cultura so you know how that goes
Dude no one haves to love it that shit is ugly
thank you
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Say it louder for the people in the back. Viva Mexico cabrones and all that it entails 🇲🇽
TrVINeDKk To BLoW no one has to hate
As a mexican, I don't give a shit. Let them do whatever they want. It's their hair let them style it however they want it's not hurting anybody
Sokol88 I think you could live a better productive life if you let others live theirs and you worry about yours.
El Escatel lol, ok. If a kid is being beaten everyday by his dad I shouldn't worry about it because he's not me so I don't care
Your ego is hurt bud chill it’s better to not say a word. Take this L quietly 😂
Serious shit. Here in the US there are a shit load of fucked up styles. Like the new age rappers. What the FUCK are they wearing
I love people like this photographer. They have such beautiful minds and they're just so interesting to listen to.
He seems so mellow and humble. I would sit there for hours just to listen to the stories he has from all his traveling and the different cultures he's encountered.
Coming here from Netflix's "Ya no estoy aquí!"
Me too...
The weirdest thing is I used a different Netflix account, and it still showed up on my TH-cam feed
ivanvzqz22 Theyre here because they looked it up.
Source?
@@ivanvzqz22 I think it is recommended to you because more and more people look it up recently. I looked it up myself because I was curious and lucky me to found out about Mr. Stefan Ruiz! I am a fan of his works now
kinda disappointed this wasn't focused more on the youth and their culture, but I guess that this was a photography project not a reporter
I think there's a lot more to this video than just whether you like the style of the kids or not. I liked that they showed the Rembrandt tie-in to the shot composition, his choice of camera (obv very specific, since it's old and not digital), his mobile studio, and how he's able to get people to agree to have their photo taken (not always the easiest thing to do). I think this dude is cool, approachable, level-headed, and I really like his style. I find it pretty unique when compared to most advertising/commercial photography. Great job, VICE!
Paul Mayer "like the style or not" are you kidding me? That's not even style.. it's horrendous aberration.. mismatched oversized ballooning clothes and super glued hair. wtf man, these people are aliens
It is I "mismatched oversized ballooning clothes and super glued hair" - That sounds like a style to me, like it or not :)
Paul Mayer They got in touch with me thats how they convinced them to do it, I was documenting them for 3 years when they contacted me to get them 'in" I have a book Cholombianos which is going to London now with the exhibition.
What the hell
Mexican affair This is one of the best Vice docs I have seen. The work is so beautiful and intimate. These kids were so proud of their style. This was such a treat to watch.
As a Colombian I don’t know where on earth they got that style from.. however, I’m glad they appreciate the culture.
Todo es culpa de petro viejo
They don't base their aesthetic on colombian fashion, they just really enjoy colombian music I think
las cumbias colombianas según
Exactly like celso dice musica colombiana mexicana para todo el mundo thats how it is
That hair thooooo... fuck it he happy 😆
I wish Vice made more videos like this where they follow artists doing their thing
fax!
I think vice likes Mexico... So many documentaries about it.
+Dora Rigel ey we have a great culture, and interesting one at that. its hard to stay away lmao
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No, but México is right next door...
Dora Rigel the owner of vice is probably Mexican
Nyssa Rigel it's because Mexico is full of a great diversity
billie eilish lowkey tries to dress like this
Baggie clothing is mostly from us with gangs back in the 80s . These guys recently started using these clothing in the 00's
mr fun at parties baggy clothing came from zoot suits way before the 80s.. In the 1930s black and Mexican-American men in California began rocking big, oversized suit jackets and pants that tapered down at their ankles: zoot suits.
@@mrfunatparties6763 why you think they call them cholombianos dumb ass XD
Oof...I means that's fine that she does but it's so weird that she's one of the first people they think of when you think about people dressing in baggy clothes when people have been dressing in baggy clothes like this for years...and some do look cooler..😅
What an interesting documentary. I didn't know there were people from Mexico that have that connection with the traditional music like cumbia and vallenato from my country. It is very interesting that many Colombians include me love their mariachis, tequila, and coronas.
Mexico is a very beautiful and diverse country and as Colombia extremely rich in culture, traditions, and history. Greetings from Texas.
solodiamante Forever México and Colombia have been known to share this connection for a good minute. I’m from Guerrero, Mexico and we listen to a lot of cumbia there. Many Colombian artists love to go to Mexico for this same reason because they know our people love their music and vice versa. Would love to visit Colombia someday. Greetings from Mexico ☺️🖤
Angie yess I’m from Guerrero too! I love their culture and their music💯💯💯 Mexico and Colombia for ever ❤️💞
Every latín country embraced their own cumbia
.... Besides Kolombiana there is also traditional Mexican Cumbia that is not slowed down...
half of the video is just about him tho. barely about who he was shooting
He is great, he deserves the credits.
@@corrosyon true
being honest I skipped several times until they arrived to monterrey
Yeah, skipped all of that
Well read the title of the video, it’s more about the process of capturing this street culture rather than the culture itself and I think the title matches the video content
This is actually.... really cool.
I love how the men are the more expressive ones.... kinda like flashy birds that try to attract the plain female birds.
Fifi Young if this was white man... its a Style GaGa shiet!
Fifi Young yeah I thought the same. It's pretty cool.
It’s sexual dimorphism, kind of. :)
i love his gift. you can really feel how naturally this gift has come to him and how much a part of his soul it is. the portraits capture the subjects so well without props and the repore he develops almost instantly is amazing. some people are truly blessed and inturn their gift is a blessing to us all
Being able to travel around the world and spend all your time waiting to capture a picture with an old camera isn't really a gift someone possesses, it is a gift they were given.
And by "gift they were given" I mean they had the resources to do it, not that they actually have talent anywhere close to that of a true artist.
@@blam279 let’s not to be too judgmental. he may have the resources to do it but the artistry is all there as well. His compositions communicate everything our eyes need to see.
16:56 el de camisa roja soy yo jajaja aun me acuerdo de la secion, viejos tiempos
Que chido, te sigues vistiendo así?
Hola, noo ya casi 10 años de eso, ya no es normal ver gente asi, antes tampoco era normal jaja pero estaban mas acostumbrados, lo unico qe qedo fue la cumbia, y los recuerdos de bailes.
Carlos Ortega que padre ver tanta diversidad en Mexico, quizás a muchos les parece raro a mucha gente pero es definitivamente algo muy Preciado de nuestra cultura
@@Kcro03 ósea que si voy a Monterrey ya no voy a encontrar mente así
Si eran tiempos duros, pero hoy en dia los recuerdo y eran buenos tiempos, ya no ahi gente qe se vista asi del diario, ya se ven modas distintas en los qe hoy son chavos, si quieres ver mas fotos busca en yt un video qe se llama" players fome 86" y ahi te van a sugerir mas y mas, hacer videos con musica colombiana y subirlos a youtube tambien era parte de la cultura kolombia, saludos amigos
This reminds me of my teen years going to a lot of quinceañeras back in 2006, where we danced to bota y tambor by Sabor Kolombia and many other cumbia songs. We were all Mexicans living in Texas and we really loved cumbia. All the guys dressed in baggy clothes and their hairstyle was really big and crazy, kinda like blow outs because jersey shore was really popular around that time as well.
Fr?? Man I wished I was born in those times I love this culture
Hipsters will be wearing these clothes pretty soon
xd
+Facts Machine maybe yes
angel t fucking love that style
I was thinking next will be Japanese kids copying this THEN American kids copying Japanese kids doing this. 8]
Chedarmentos Brown American kids are style biters ain't got no swagg or ridem just like Jews
I lov ethis video. It is very interesting and inspiring. Everything about the photographer is genuine. He doesn't seem pretentious to me and I love how he is interested on the uncommon.
Why would he seem pretentious?
i said that because i read the rest of the comments on this video.
highoffdank
What were the comments saying? I usually avoid comments because they are filled with idiotic people and I prefer to make up my mind.
I agree 100%
+Enrique Godinez because in his art is very hard to find people that is not pretentious maaybe..
❤️❤️❤️❤️
These kids are so fashion forward and thinking out of the box, absolutely love genuine expressions of fashion! So cool!
I love this. Never have ever witnessed my culture be documented in such a meaningful way.
The photographer is too cute. He's the kind of guy you can't hate.
Milkshakes ❤
Okay
Until he has a deep secret like the guy in the lovely bones
Edgar Prado the part where he points out one of his favourite pictures and it is of a women's butt... that's the point where you realise he has a secret and it's a secret passion for dat ass
These are just youngsters expressing their style. This reminds me of my youth and the trends I wore and music I enjoyed.
Dulce Robles unfortunately I was melancholic and had zero style and still wear JC Penny Polo shirts and Levi's or Duckies but i understand your point
Dulce Robles you’re a fucking tool. Fuck you and your shit trends/music
I THINK DULCE ROBLES WAS DEPORTED
Dulce Robles that is NOT a style. That is pure STUPIDITY!!!!
@@pitdawg6418 It is by definition a style
This photographer is awesome! Love his interactions with these kids.
The cholobiano sub culture has always been so fascinating to me especially as a chicana it's insane the amount of creativity around different parts not to mention the photographer captures the authenticity & essence of the photo which I really love not too polished/fabricated just what's in the front of him
All the hate is disgraceful. They are teenagers, let them go through their phases. Nothing wrong with that.
You may call them nacos. But at least they're not into causing trouble. Just mellow fellows so it seems.
mellow fellows who tongue fuck each others ass in the clubs and get high
Thomas J theyre fucking gangsters
wrong... 99.9999% of the time if you walk on the same street (no witnesses) you will get rob by this "colombias", "cholos" or "texas" as they call themself...
Thomas J I lived there and being that I'm Mexican but from another state it was new to me . They are nice but they do have gangs they belong to .. they would fight the enemies and usually throw rocks while chasing them out of their hoods. It's like any other gangs out here. United States just their music and way of dressing ( the girls dress alike but mostly with booty shorts and small tank tops and bandanas in their hair )
Nacos i haven't heard that in a while lol
3:43
“I like this one”
*points to butt*
It brings me so much joy to see young people / teens openly embrace such a new style and be so creative.
Even though I wouldn't wear it, it makes me think about a lot of the styles I wish I was brave/creative enough to try out as a teen.
I love to see successful people with messy homes.
Me too!! Sometimes your best work happens when you make a mess too..
its easy to be successful when you sell drugs and extort your own people
I think she was refering about the photographer. Quit being ignorant and you will allow your mind to see things from other perspectives.
KEVIN WILLIAMS
i am pretty sure thats not what she meant
JoStylin lol
this is like ricing out a car but human version lmao
+mexalkid lol
what are you implying with that nonsense?
+mexalkid lol
it really is haha
People been wearing hats like that since the 80's.
Here after watching “ya no estoy aquí “ love the movie!
There is a movie on Netflix that I watched recently called I am no longer here about this lifestyle. It’s an incredible film and must watch for people who loved this doco
I like these kids. Their sub-culture was aesthetically unexpected, unique and their own, and I think that's the point.
El Brayan y el Kevin tienen documentales jajajaja
Irroke kuro jajajajajajajajja lol
hahhahahaha
lmaooo
Ya era hora el Brayan a sido persistente
Irroke kuro donde foo? lol
i love when hes going through all the photos and like pointing to all the pictures of like butts and stuff
I never even knew that dance existed I just watched the movie on Netflix and was like wtf is this and so I'm here
The Mexican's in the comments need to chill, this was so interesting to watch! I've never seen this style before and these kids looked so innocent in a way I mean, they looked pretty young after all. All they're doing is expressing themselves in their fashion. Kids being kids! I've never seen it before so I thought this was very cool! The photographer is also awesome, love that he appreciates different cultures.
yes XD
LOL! Leave it to a person of another race to tell others from another race to chill out. We all know the type of person who loves to sing that tune
They are just jealous that's all... ;)
Alexer innocent. Lol these dudes are gay and proud as fuck ain’t nothing innocent about em.
Alexer thats NOT a style! That's Fruits and Nuts in the making!
im Colombian and very proud of my culture and to me is an honor that this guys adore our culture and music they can dress how ever they want i think they cool A F .. oh and thank you for loving our Colombian music and culture ...
muy bonita
+rina constantino no tu
+LlLnig awwww thank u the pic is pretty old tho
+rina constantino doesn't matter still very beautiful
+LlLnig thank u much for the nice words
When an artist can embrace sympathy where most viewers would feel empathy it empowers the work to be more than just a snapshot of a moment.
It isn't often that I feel the need to pause a video as much as this one, I'm in awe of this.
I LOVE his photographs! He sees the beauty and art of humanity! I can't wait to have my own camera. I have always wanted to photograph people that look beautiful to me (Not necessarily beauy standards of the world).
9:38 is where it starts
These kids are definitely unique and authentic. Style is definitely in their blood. Wether or not you may wear their threads, it's what makes them who they are and a representation of what they're about. In Japan, they wear clothes just as baggy, but people don't complain about them. Saludos desde Los Angeles a todos los de Monterey.
I love how he highlights the historical evolution of humanity's style/culture in his pictures by comparing the Cholombianos to Renaissance art. You can see how we have evolved through many different uses of our head to hair with hat ratios, in other words, the personal preference of physical, spatial occupation that is involved in the outlined framing of the individual's hair and hat position. It's a very interesting perspective, to say the least.
“You have the butt” 😂 lmao que estoy mirando
So these are the people that are made into the barber memes.. nice
You complain about their hair but you all forget manbuns exist
Also mullets and rat tails 😂😂
wow, I think its beautiful to see young people expressing themselves, and finding something they can relate to. We are NOT all suppose to dress the same, look the same etc. It's the beauty in being human. Beautifully shot!
I've seen black women with the same hair!
mr who holy shit lol
lmfaooo
I’ve seen hair with the same black women.
😆😆😆
Lmfao
So, his parents are illegals from mexico, they were poor, but, his dad was lawyer and his mom was art teacher... they got divorced and he and his mom went to Italy.... and they were poor... ???
thats the American Dream bro! xD
That could be the mexican dream, a nightmare that we live everyday
what did you mean?
That's what I thought and after that I knew he was a liar.
props to the photographer going out and doing these shoots for the culture. you have too really humble yourself down too being open minded for this and feeling out of place. Awesome.
+Eddie Licona I've scrolled through some of these comments and was really kind of amazed that no one else that I saw picked up on that aspect. He seemed like a genuine person with talent he took in his own direction, which is what you need to do to stand out. The fact that anyone would feel angry toward these kids, who seemed also to be mellow and just doing what makes them happy, they must be pretty fucked up to have nothing better to do, just sayin. I really enjoyed the entire story, to me it was about the courage to be yourself, and that could actually be a way to make a living and meet lots of interesting people. I would be proud to have any of the people in the film that felt comfortable sharing their unique lifestyles with me.
I love this idea! The mobile studio, meeting locals, getting them to trust you and genuinely being interested in learning about their style. Plus the way he combined the old portrait shots with their style, it was brilliant.
Why do they look like the male version of TLC during the early 90s with that female hair style and those plaid oversized shirts lol.
this is the best documentary i have seen on vice. thank you.
Dude, you spend HALF of the video telling us about you instead of getting to the point. Nothing wrong with that, but that's not what we clicked for. Maybe rename the vid to something else like "The work of a photographer around the world" or something.
Nonnof Yobiznes IKR
Lalalalalalalalalalala
He didn’t make this video. Vice did lol
Lucky that I saw this comment within the first minute of the video and didn't have to waste the next 10 minutes.
Its was necessary to understand his background to understand his style of photography
It is true! 15:43 There was a radio station like the movie " Ya no estoy aqui"
Esta chingona la peli!
La neta si 💯💯🇲🇽
kinda cool seeing what it's like in Mexico... I've never been deep into Mexico and I can't wait to discover what my homeland has for me
LIVE YOUR LIFE DON'T JUDGE OTHERS FOR LIVING.
" Sonideroooo" hahaha this was dope!
Wow! Fantastic! Love learning about different cultures and concepts! And these individuals are visually stunning and colorful!
I find it interesting they dance almost pow wow style
I adore his photography! He has a funny sense of humor. I'm happy for this video.
im a proud Mexican, i love my people and our country, our history and culture but this shit its an insult it has to go!!!!!
Also the pointy boots
It's not like he's documenting Mexico as a whole...he's documenting Mexico's Cholombiano Street Culture
this shit still has to go.
***** That's what I was thinking.. this cannot be Mexican style lol. Just looks over the top ridiculous and quite frankly horrendous. There's no style.. just lunacy
Agreed brother!
I really like that he gives polaroids to his subjects. It builds a sense of deeper connection with them rather than paying them up and moving on. He leaves his work behind and the subjects leave a part of themselves with him as well. It's just a very nice gesture.
Great documentary
every culture have a rich way to express their very style and a way of life...
these kids are awesome! diversity is key people
The part where the subtitle says "inaudible" at 3:08 he says "Medellín", it's a city in Colombia.
Their vibe is so beyond,
I find this amazing. Its so inspiring and this guys makes art look simple but not anyone has that eye for things. Love it.
This is amazing and artístic in so many ways . I love it !
In Argentina they have the same exact thing, except they call themselves "Villeros" or "Wachiturros" they are made fun of the same way the "Cholombianos" are made fun of in Mexico.
+ngonz89 We also have a lot of those here in Perú
+ngonz89 ..sorry about Gardel crashing over here
Ms.Gonzalez89 they should be made fun of in all Latin America
RANCHOLOS...😒
I'm from Mexico city and I didn't know this was a thing
huge inspiration for my current project. thank you!
Loved this documentary
wtf, some fancy shit going on here at 7-11
Netflix is doing what Telemondo should've done...add subtitles 😂😂😂
To lightly get introduced to cumbias,
I recommend listening to:
(Colombia)- Vallenato Style
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Sampuesana
Aniceto Molina- Cumbia Cienaguera
(Peru)- ?Style
Los Mirlos de Peru- Danza de Los Mirlos
(Mexico)- Sonidero Style
Alberto Pedraza Islas- Cumbia Gabacha
(Mexico; Tex-Mex)- Northern Style, Tejano Style
Control- Cumbia con la luna
Feel free to research more because this is literally nothing compared to the huge pool of cumbias and unique styles out in the world.
The ending with the old portraits paintings was awesome
I love this place Monterrey beautiful place my city
***** Ha!!!!!Got him!!!
***** stfu dumbfuck
they didnt make the cut for Rupauls Dragrace
Zing😂😂😂
Taking lacefront glue to the next 😭
I absolutely adore him, and I applaud him for exposing all aspects of Mexico and their subcultures. Love it!
Beautiful art and people. Thank you!
Stefan has a great gift for collecting & photographing things that are pleasing to the human eye. Great work bro!
AMAZING , but the video is too short i was expecting more(from the cholombiano part) :( also if you dont wanna get bored skip to 8:28
thanks
+renatoyutub your comment is contradicting...
I really like the way they look. It's fresh, it's cool. Thanks for the video!
@3:35 I saw this pubic every Sunday for 6 years, on the beaches of Cartagena where my childhood passes, those who have gone know that is true, can remember the best photographer of Cartagena in the 90s
11:00 I see where Kanye got his inspiration from.
Orgulloso de ser Mexicano porque tenemos Sangre nativo americana. Soy Cora de Nayarit y purepecha de Michoacán. Arriba la gente de Anahuac
Another Mexican Hipster, claiming to represent. Who gives a shit. My ancestors were Chorotecan. So what? You are not special and your ethnicity does not define you.
Alberto Gutierrez claims to not give a shit then drops his ethnicity lmao...ok buddy. Your ethnicity is your culture and that is everything.
Great little documentary. Stefan Ruiz is fantastic!
Terrific. Stefan and his assistant seem like such great guys. Humble and productive!
born and raised in Texas. I'm proud to be Mexican. would not have it any other way.
Me encanta con la cultura Mexicano y los gentes, especialmente Oaxaca!
I'm Colombian and I support this and I'm happy that people aren't ashamed of who they want to be
I'm loving this !