Is This The Best Greece Team With Giannis?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Greece are back to the Olympic basketball. After 16 years of wait, Giannis Antetokounmpo & Vassilis Spanoulis led team won the qualifying tournament in Piraeus, beating Croatia & Luka's Slovenia on the way. In this video, BasketNews' Augustas Suliauskas analyzes their success and if this Greece team is the best-ever with Giannis on the roster.
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Does Greece have any exhibition games before the Olympics?
I think toliopoulos needs some credits also, he scored about 20 points at the last 2 games without missing any shot. Great analysis one more tme!!
9:50
@@kostas9094he missed a shot
Toliopoulos played great!!! Every single one of the Greek players gave everything they got!!! Go Greece 🇬🇷❤️🇬🇷❤️🇬🇷❤️🇬🇷❤️ bring us a medal 🥇 you deserve it😊
If everything goes well this team can bring a medal 🥇 for Greece 🇬🇷 but even if they don’t!!! They make it to the Olympic Games it’d an honour after all this years
The Insiders here in Greece...Spanoulis System this Year...''If anyone only looking for a pass to Giannis you are out of the Team....Giannis is the Decoy we play Motion...We dont Play for Giannis but around him''
Couldn't have said it better! 👌
Great strategy!
This is precisely what Itoudis miserably failed to pass on the team. Its the first time in years that I see Giannis being utilized so well. Let's hope for the best.
The key is to make 3 pt open spaces
@@gregwaste2594itoudis is a 40m + coach and onky kniw with top players to play.Big dumbster and always complains when he loses.He is never responsiboe for defeat others are
If you remember the last recent years, this was definitely a beautiful display of basketball. Our eyes were hurting seeing Giannis forcing attempts with 3 players locked on him while the rest of the offense was sitting around the arc frozen.
Exactly, Spanoulis actually uses every player to his fullest instead of just feeding the ball to Giannis and expecting everything from him
My predition for Spanoulis is that except a Euroleague legend, will become a coach Legend!
Intelligence above all!
Exactly! Coach job fits him so well!!
They need to get Spanoulis to Milwaukee, teach the Americans some proper basketball. This is the best version of our national team ever since coach Giannakis' and the world cup epic.
There is no such thing as proper basketball. I think the Europeans should accept that the talent is so high in the NBA that fewer actions are needed to get a basket.
@@noname-xz2nsIf you actually watch the defense the greeks are playing right now and do not see the insane gap in quality to the defense that Milwaukee played last season then…
The NBA is for show, its like a top quality circus. They would send Spanoulis packing in less than a month
@@noname-xz2ns offensive talent 100% what about defensive talent? what about defence in general?
@@noname-xz2ns Sure the talent gap is enormous.. But outside NBA , the field is smaller, defence is tighter .So , a well orchestrated offense needs MORE actions. We ll see how many points 'dreamteam' USA can score in olympics per match ..
Papagiannis sprint at 6:18 is at least impressive for a guy his size.
The problem with Greek teams is that they never have all pieces set everytime one piece is missed. For examble I would argue that in the previous eurobasket Greece had the most complete roster with Sloukas, Calathes, Papagiannis, Antetokoubros etc and still missed a key player like Mitoglou a heavy 4 and great 3point shooter that would have made the difference against Germany. Greece is also very unlucky that Germany got so hot handed in this game, if Germany had the 3 point percentage that had in the final with Spain (to be realistic we have to admit that Spain played better defense than Greece but Germany was also tired after the game with Greece) Greece would have taken the title (it finished 5th).
This year we have a great defensive team, we arguably play the greatest defense we played the last 15 years or so, but we are missing scoring power, ability that Sloukas could provide but he is missing due to injury. I think this will be the biggest headache of Spanoulis how we find a consistent 3point scorer that will score even on a bad day of some other players, if he somehow manages to find a consistent play system and scorer (for examble Toliopoulos) then Greece is a medal contender.
I loved that roster until Mitoglou got injured.. And I agree Sloukas would be huge for this team. Someone who can be a constant threat off the dribble in PnR. Extra level
Φίλε η περιφερειακή μας άμυνα στον αγώνα με την Γερμανία ήταν για τα μπάζα. Άμυνα με τα μάτια. Δίκαια μας έβαλαν τόσα τρίποντα.
@@AugustasSuliauskas Mitoglou was last year in WC in 22 Eurobasket he was banned
I don't follow Greece basketball, so who should step to become that 3-point threat then??????
@@da11king Toliopoulos and yes Papagiannis , even in 2,18 meters he has 50% 3pt shooting accuracy
never thought spanoulis would become such a great coach so fast!he uses Giannis as a bait all tournament and to great effect.i ve been watching our national team for over 20 years now and its the first time I ve seen our players creating and taking so many open shots.spanoulis' mentality as a player has been instilled in this team already!great analysis btw!
EXCACTLY!
great analysis. Respect from a Greek guy !!
Nice analysis hope in Olympics to show our potential
Masterful analysis. Απίστευτες οι τακτικές του Σπανούλη και το ταλέντο όλης της ομάδας, ειδικά του Γιάννη, Παπαγιάννη και Καλάθη.
I think indeed this is the best Greek team with Yiannis. I feel that previous coaches made plays especially designed to take advantage of Yiannis but Spanoulis integrates Yiannis to his vision for this team. As a result the game plan is more cohesive.
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Great analysis guys. Keep up the good work.
thank you!
What I like about this new Greek national team is that at last they play with offensive and defensive plays. Coach Spanoulis, like Olympiacos' coach Bartzokas, seems to have quite an arsenal of plays for each one of his players. Giannis is a global superstar and I can understand the pressure he might feel to win a trophy with the national team. But this time we have a coach who can easily use Giannis' tremendous talent. Not to mention that Giannis, during this tournament, was out of rhythm (a result of his injury and prolonged absence off the court) but still he was a threat for every opponent. A healthy and ready Giannis, under Spanoulis guidance, will boost the entire team.
Since Sloukas is not going to be there, the squad environment is going to be fantastic! I have high hopes for this team
Sloukas is a ridiculusly good player though.. he led panathinaikos The king, back to it's throne.
Papagiannis has significantly improved this year. He can shoot, he can hedge... Not a liability any more. Everybody gives their best to make the defensive plan work. It is a Team, finally. Let's see...
Very good points, and very thorough analysis. I think this is the best leveraging of Giannis ever seen so far, allow me to say not only in the Greek team but in the NBA as well, I would expect the same plays only in a Popovich team.
Itoudis and other coaches of Greece tried to just have Giannis gather people around him and hope for free shots if he threw the ball to a free player. However, Spanoulis has usually 2 creative PG that look for free players before Giannis gets the ball. And Papagiannis is given more freedom to stay far away from Giannis. If the other center guards Giannis, Papagiannis is free to shoot for 3. And if a 2,20m guy has no one close to him guarding him he basically shoot entirely free. It's a bit like Wemby shooting. Although the two starting guards of Greece, Calathes and Walkup arent' the best of shooters, the rest of the team have the space and permition to shoot for three, a lot.If you decide to guard them you leave space for Giannis which is never smart. Defensively Greece is pretty good too, Spanoulis had a tough defensive team with Peristeri anyway. The group of Greece is very strong but I think it can make it to semifinals. Not the best of teams but a very hard team to beat.
Best Greek Team since 2007
propably since 2011 but ok
Still waiting for sloukas too guys😇
@@petouris6472he’s not playing in the Olympics
@@petouris6472 Αυτος ειναι και κομπλεξικος... καλυτερα που δε θα παιξει μη γαμησει τα αποδυτηρια
2008, 2015...
Greece is going to be in the medals, mark my words.
Really good and informative analysis Augustas.
I think the main difference compared to previous years, even though this roster has some weaknesses and absentees, is that Spanoulis has actually sat down and thought about how to utilise Giannis in the best way possible, whilst not making the rest of the team feel like they're just there to make up numbers. Whilst we had some decent coaches in the past, they were not able to incorporate Giannis in a meaningful way most of the time and the team essentially boiled down to "give the ball to Giannis and cross your fingers". Worked great when the opposition didn't/couldn't deal with him in an efficient way but only then. Having players that were of top euroleague calibre and reducing them to just "pass to one guy and stay out of the way" was abhorrent.
Spanoulis commands the respect of the whole team and has a winning mentality, which helps by itself. Combine that with making everyone in the team feel useful, having plays that use Giannis as a distraction to create for the rest of team and also letting Giannis do his thing when he can, and you get a good team.
It also helps that Calathes seems to somehow, at this age, play the best basketball of his career, Papagiannis adding a 3pt threat and a few other bits and pieces, and this team is fun to watch, as well as having the ability to always turn the defensive screws on when things in attack are not going too well.
Nevertheless, I think that even going through the group stage is going to be a challenge, with the likes of Canada, Australia and Spain. Running the floor against Canada (a mini-USA team) is not going to work too well I think. Australia is full of NBA players, even if they aren't as good as in previous iterations and Spain is maybe average in terms of roster, but Spain is Spain. Our frontline is somewhat weak in numbers (especially if Kostas Anteto is injured) and whilst having big men that stretch the floor is good when Giannis is on the court, it doesn't work as well when he isn't (and we don't have a traditional C that can play with his back towards the basket). Would have liked to also have Sloukas on the squad (not so much for his creativity, I think that's well covered with Calathes and Walkup, but mostly for his scoring) but injuries are part of the game unfortunately.
Of course it is the best team with Giannis. It is the first time that Giannis appears to be included in the team plan.
that's not true at all
Its all about team this time. Not Giannis and after the team. Spanoulis changed that
actually it's the FIRST TIME that we have a real team with him on the roster and not always running the same system "give a pass to Antentokoumpo". I take this as a trolling comment.
Complete bs, actually it's exactly the opposite... Itoudis expected everything from Giannis and we did horribly but Spanoulis' Greece is an actual team
@@kondoesroblox69420 actually with Croatia Antentokoumpo stayed on the bench on purpose for some minutes because Spanoulis wanted both Mitoglou and Papgiannis to stay on the 3p line and drag out Saric and Zubac to open up space inside
Outstanding analysis! Could not agree more with every single point you have made. Greece can and should improve you are absolutely right.,
Spanoulis as a coach seems to utilize his bigest asset as a player, often overlooked by basketball experts. This asset is situational awareness in play making, making sure everyone gets the task the can succed in.
Love the breakdowns Augustus! All the best from Indiana.
Walkup-calathes-Papanikolaou-Giannis-Papagianis is a top tier 5 squad with an active Nba player and 4 that passed from NBA and now top range Euroleague players . Adding to that Mitoglou, Larentzakis,Charambopoulos, Toliopoulos, Kostas ante if he plays sure Greece has very good players overall Nba, euroleague , defensive players ,passionate players sure a player to change the rythm like Dorsey is missing or a tool and cheerful guy like thanasis but it is what it is . The big star for sure its tha coach that has understand his players . As a Greek they only thing I want is the team to fight every game and we see. No big talks
Great analysis guys!! You are doing amazing job, I was watching your videos analyzing my team Panathinaikos and our incredible year ending being European and Greek Champions 🏆
I hope for a medal in Paris cause the National Team is the best can be after 2009.
Keep up your great job !!
Greeks love you and Lithuanian culture of basketball ❤
Fun fact: "Nick Kalathes" means "Nick Basket" in greek.
Excellent game analysis! Spanulis must to be with Giannis in Milwaukee Bucks
It's USA, France, Serbia and after those 3 powerhouses there's teams like Germany, Greece, Spain.. Olympics will be lit!
Greece above Serbia
Greece vs Canada will show
@@thanasistagaras3256We will see😊
You forgot Canada
@@thanasistagaras3256wtf how is greece above serbia? My greek brother i need to ask you, are you good with your head? 😂
I am looking forward to see what spanoulis can do with this team after one month of perpetuation. Definitely I want them to the next round in Olympics. Hopefully a.medal too. They deserve it
Calathes deserved more credit, he was the mvp of the final and he averaged over 10 ast in the tournament
A Greek speaker called him Pistol-iopoulos.
Very funny but accurate.
Its very important that they played as team and not as Giannis team.That was the mistake with the Slovenians that they played as a Doncits team!
If we get even better than this we will get a gold medal 🥇 for the first time in the Olympics 🎉🇨🇾🇬🇷😊
Κόψε κάτι... Κόψε κάτι.. 😂
Cut something... Cut something (Google - greek translate 😅). Don't be so utopian (in a way) 👍
The title is misleading, Spanoulis made the big difference. The national team has echoes of Peristeri, a very team orientated mentality, Antentokoumpo would take his shots only if he has the best shot in a possession. He would go to the bench also when he's not the best option like it happened against Croatia when it was crucial to get Saric/Zupac out of the paint and Spanoulis CHOSE to play with Mitoglou/Papagiannis and Antentokoumpo on the bench.
Credits to their defense it really made them the best team out of the group
yes and i feel this team, even with some absences, is more connected and more chemistry than previous years
Great analysis!!
thanks!
Excellent analysis. Thanks!
We’ll see. Honestly the group we’re in the olympics is a hell! I will not be surprised if we struggle to win a single game.
As a Greek, thank you for this educational video because people think that Greece only won because of Giannis. Of course, he is our best and star player, but everyone in our roster is playing fantastic, and Spanoulis as a coach, is doing an amazing job. Great video.
and imagine greece is missing 3 top class euroleague players
Papapetrou and Rogkavopoulos are mid tier, Sloukas is the only "top class" missing.
@@liasosfpMissing Slovaks is like missing two top tier players.
Maybe he is about to play in Paris. He has to decide
@@petouris6472He said he wouldn’t already
@@petouris6472he won't and he shouldn't.
Perfect Analysis ✌️💯
Milwaukee needs Greece players
Would love to see an Olympic Greece vs France final and the USA vs Spain for the Bronze.
Greece and Spain are not competitive teams, they can never reach the final
Very good analysis
Giannis he is one of the top three players in the world .With Spanoulis he understand what basketball its not a one man show game and some times its better to pass the ball .He put his self under the team and Greece now its more strong.
he understood well that with Billy playing diva is no more an option or he would be out of the team
The Bald Mamba, V.Span, is the glue keeping this team together. I won’t be surprised if Greece upsets teams like USA or Canada on their way to an Olympic metal.
Really good team they have great strategy
Definitely more work to be done is necessary. Very high level at the Olympics. Still, the potential is there
Kalathes surname is translated in English as Basketmaker.And is not a joke.
Giannis didnt have the big moments this tourney the other guys had. He was just doing his thing
I expect more offensive systems to be practiced during these 2 weeks from the coaching staff.
Amazing analysis. Keep up the good job. You are my favorite channel!!!!
Thanks, will do!
Good analysis dude. Try to stick more on fundamentals
I can't help but wonder how stronger greece could have been with euroleague mvp Sloukas not injured
Ω Λαρυ Λαρυ!!!
Ω Λαρυ Λάρυ!!!
Δε σταματω να τραγουδώ ποτέ!!
Interested in this cuz they will play Aus in group A lol.
Big Papa the better Brook Lopez!
Not even close... Papa is great and all, but regarding defense and rebounding he is below average.
@@dragonxx444 He's more mobile than Lopez though, he cuts inside better, he can block higher, he also has a mid ranger while lopez doesn't
you can't compare the two, Papagiannis is more like a 2.18 m cornerman and not a center really....
Also, he (and almost every European player), needs to visit the gym more. Excellent talent and skills for so many guys but couldn't compete at the same level at NBA just because of that.
Having +10 inches(25cm) vertical, +30lb(13.5kilos) more of muscles and spending more time training,
would make all the difference since NBA is 95% super athletes (and also very talented too!).
Even if you are more talented, you can't play defence if train of muscles is coming towards you or if they are physically that much better than you (try defending Curry running circles non-stop and being lighting fast at shooting)
2008 Greece didn’t have a NBA Superstar like Giannis but they had a better team in the overall, coming from a Eurobasket tile and a World Cup final, Late 1980s Greece led by Galis, Giannakis and Christodoulou were legendary but not really comparable to nowadays game, this Greece is in a really difficult group, had lots of trouble in previous tournaments leading to early exits. The fair comparison would be if they could eliminate a team like 2008 Argentina and play a quarterfinal, that’s when this Greece can get in the convo, better than the recent years, lots of grounds to cover to reach the heights of 1987-1989 and 2005-2007
Galis can definetly be considered as a superstar
@@kondoesroblox69420 Galis was a superstar, ask people who watched him Thursday after Thursday in late 80s/early 90s, demolishing every team in Europe
Ωραία ανάλυση
The Greeks always loved basketball like almost all Balkan countries...
Good job
Great analysis Augustas!!
Η Ελλάδα χρειάζεται 4, 5 παίκτες που να βάζουν συνεχώς τρίποντα σε όλες τις συνθήκες
Ας ευχηθούμε να έχουν καλά ποσοστά τριπόντων (πάνω από 35 % τουλάχιστον) 2-3 παίκτες από τους Τολιόπουλος, Παπανικολάου, Καλάθης, Γουόκαπ, Χαραλαμπόπουλος, Παπαγιάννης, Μήτογλου (σε κάθε παιχνίδι όμως) Τότε θα είμαστε στην 1η 8αδα εύκολα και πιθανόν μέσα στη τετράδα. 👍
Agree Greece can be even better in Paris.
Can you please make an analysis of my national team, Brazil?
❤
the problem with defense first teams like Greece is that they can't really control the tactics of a game. So when things go wrong in a first half is there a plan B?
Sloukas is a loss, but not as big a loss as it is presented. Ηe would add something in the attack but they would mark him in the defense. And this version of Greek national team is defense oriented
He may be back in Paris. I hope will be
Please talk about France next... and how they blew out Germany with Wemby and how with no Wemby they are an average team.🙏🙏
We need wloukas as well
great work
Very good analyse.i believe in Olympics greece will be better and will be a real fight against all her opponents.i thing greece is not the best national greek team.the roster of 1987 and 2005 was another thing
Says most teams go under on Walkup on the pick, then immediately goes on to show a clip where his defender goes over
Νο Sloukas and one more on 5 is an issue tho
They great team this year but with Australia,Canada and Spain in their group i thing they have less chance then others .Maybe they will finish 3th in front off Australia
Infront of Spain
Imagine Greece,with the four players,missing from the roaster...
Calathes on top!
how spanoulis make papagiannis so useful is unreal coach's of fener should learn from spanoulis
you mean Monaco's head coach...
Greece is solid maybe the best team ever but competition seems soooo "BEASTY" lets watch some good basketball in this olympics!
Yeah this team is good but we have no chance in this group of death. Things would be different if we had Sloukas,Papapetrou and Rogavopoulos but unfortunately they are missing so I don’t have high expectations of qualifying
Rogavopoulos and Papapetrou wouldn't make such a big difference, they all have the replacements in the roster. Spanoulis' roster is very "Stacked" on every position, maybe not as stacked as the US team but it still is a deep roster and that will help us go through.
My prediction is that we beat Spain and australia or canada
We have verygood team this year but i believe the best Greece team was the 2006 (we won the united states )
The best greek team was by far the 1987 euroleague team
i don't understand why you say Greece its not nice to watch offensively, you have good % threes, great assists , intelligent plays and Giannis dunking on like a maniac, what else do you want?
Actually the Guards don’t shot that much. Also missing the player that will get this last seconds shot. We waiting Sloukas in Paris. I hope will be there
@@petouris6472 does he want to be there is the question? And not get me on that oly vs pao toxic stuff. He was not even cheering for them. Thanassis andeto was there even injured.
No best team over all was the Hellenic Team of 1987!!!
ATOUTALER!
Sloukas is not with the national team for a similar reason to Isiah Thomas not being in the 1992 dream team. Bad vibes. The injury is an excuse.
We have a good team but I don't think we can beat a powerhouse like Canada maybe we can beat only Spain or Australia
Greece is systematically doing everything slovenia doesnt in the past few years, it starts from the national basketball association and their officials, there's some suspicious business when it comes to that here in slovenia... If you cant build something decent and at least compete vs teams like croatia and greece while having the best player in the world in your team... We didnt expect much in this quali tourny, but we didnt expect it to ne this disgraceful, but the coach and kzs director simply dont take any blame...
Slovenia just doesn’t have the pieces. Next gen of talent isn’t there. In the past they at least had a reliable big man and another scorer in dragic. They don’t need a great big but they basically have luka rn. They had a great chance at the Olympics previously to medal and got 4th. Can’t really ask for much else from Slovenia
@@tainanking sure, we're weak besides Luka, but I'm arguing we shouldn't be this weak with him, čančar, nebo/tobey, shooters like nikolić and prepelič, i fully blame the basketball association as well as coaching staff, the incompetence is very visible, and what the hell is sweeney there for?
that batum block on prepelič in last seconds still hurts to this day, it's the only time i cried while watching basketball xd
@@kingjaskoIn the game against Greece, Slovenia was a two man team. It was literally, Luka and Nebo, offensively at least. You cannot win games with 2 players. Greece had this issue too when we tried to play only around Giannis. Luka and Nebo can bend over backwards but they won't score 90 points on their own no matter what. And I think it's a coach issue because there's no way the rest are just that bad.
@@toast2300 Like I said in another of my comments under basketnews video, neither Luka nor Giannis alone cannot beat each other's teams... That being said, I agree with you and I think it's even more proof that the problem is coaching, as well as of course lack of good players around these 2, but I'd say it's disgraceful how badly we did vs Greece and Croatia, we even looked shaky at times vs NZ.
Bro I think the NBA greek freak is a problem for his team Greece is playing more in selfish and the old school European basketball
GREECE IS A FORCE A SUPER TEAM DEFINATELY A MEDAL CHANCE DONT FORGET NO SLOUKAS NO THANASI AND HIS BROTHER NO PAPAPETROU THERE QUALITY ABSENCES PAME ELLADA AND LOVE FROM GREECE TO LUTHUANIA I WISH THEY QUALIFIED
As a Greek let me enlighten you. One of the best Greek basketball teams was the Team that won in World Basketball tournament in Saitama the silver medal after won by scoring 100 points and won a match against team USA. But our Dream Team was the Greek Team of 1987. In Saitama our National team had coach Giannakis as head coach. Now we have coach Spanoulis, and as players we are blessed to have Gianni and the other players like Calathes, Papagiannis, Mitoglou etc. As a Greek I hope my team in Olympics to show the potential.
Is This The Best Greece Team With "Giannis"? what part don't you understand?
@@krisrealone6961 you didn't have to be rude I was giving out information only, is that the way you approach anyone that give information or enlighten a conversation with facts?
@@krisrealone6961 He isn't comparing anything to the video lol
It hurts that Sloukas won't play and Kostas (Giannis' brother) is doubtful but they are still a big threat. They got great chemistry and heart too!
Seriously though. how are they supposed to matchup with USA?
Europians live in La La land, they are so delusional
Greece missing Sloukas or atleast some more nba help
To be fair the version with Itoudis was also awesome throughout the Eurobasket tournament, they just happened to run into Germany on one of their best shooting nights ever.
This version also looks great but the bench is very thin, this team is really 7 players (all due respect to Larry and Toliopoulos but they shouldn't really be playing so many minutes).
Itoudis' Greece had one flaw. If Giannis didn't perform the whole structure collapsed. We saw it in that apocalyptic 3rd quarter against Germany. This team looks to be different. We shall see though, the Olympics are still ahead.
to be fair the version with Itoudis was a copy paste version of the Bucks and a bad one being soft and no defense while on offense running in theory all the plays of the Bucks while in reality even worse "give the ball to Antentokoumpo". Also our bench is not thin at all, Larentzakis and Toliopoulos played well and they will play even better as well as Charampopoulos! Our bench is the strongest we had in years.
Aren''t you foreigners getting a little confused when there's a name Giannis but there's another dude with surname Papagiannis? I would be thinking wtf is going there in Greece.
It's the most common name here, and one of the most common surnames
@@user-lh7tq3yk4f Ye, I know. I'm talking about the foreigners.. the non Greeks
@@VirusTechKEKW It's like Lebron James playing with James Harden
@@user-lh7tq3yk4f Or someone named James playing with someone with the surname McJames lol
Spanoulis is scary;is he gonna play or not ;cut the bullshit