Hey everyone, it's been a little while. We wanted to make this video extra elaborate in terms of the editing as a sort of 100k subscriber special and to serve as an entertaining means for finally getting out all of the silly supposed cosmic epiphanies that psychedelics have apparently bestowed upon me over the years. So, between the sheer scope of this video, health problems that are now largely resolved, and me working a full time job for a psychedelic research company, this video ended up taking us almost a year to make. However, we're already working on another video that we intend to get out much quicker, and I really want to finally move into making regular content for this channel. Either way, thank you so much for the 100k subs despite our absence, and thank you so much to everyone who supports us on Patreon and TH-cam memberships. It feels so amazing to have such a substantial following on this platform and we really really appreciate it.
Wow, this is great. Love the animations. It makes me want to play the psychedelic life game (😂). I need these inventory items. Great stuff. I'm still finishing it.
Really quick, off the bat, I wonder if any of you are familiar with yuan chi from the Tao? The unity of polarized halves is more than just "unity as opposites" there. There's an actual "chi", or prana, which is more neutral and polarizes in to different energies. It is difficult to apply that to the extreme night and day concepts (unity as two halves) but can be seen in something like visual light. There, the light has seven poles as a unity, but the source light, being more neutral, has an original property not fully present in separated rays. In the body, the more neutral core is yuan chi, which is yellow gold and is said to be the primary fluid of the meridians. It polarizes in to outer wood, fire, water, and metal chi forms.
Haha so good! Very strong connectedness to the onemind recently but didn't stop me from getting all PO'ed the other day when some dirty rat bastard version of us stole my preferred parking space♣ Great video, love the trans dimensional desk ♥
Maybe we simply all heard of such concepts before our epiphanies and it influenced them all 🤔 Yeah I definitly had the same too... 🐸🙏 But I am into buddhism and spirituality so does it count ? I mean, once you did a trip you started to search for informations about what the hell just happened like everybody else didn't you ?🧙♂🧙♂ Did you heard about all those concepts before your epiphanies ? 👽
@@Roxar96 Personally, I had not heard of these concepts before taking psychedelics. I was a sheltered kid in a religious cult, and I had done exactly no research into any of these topics prior to experiencing them.
I think the most likely conclusion would be that there true, I had these epiphanies at like 18 before ever doing psychedelics , I really think that your just becoming smart snuff on psychs to actually idk process the word logically
@@wavehellhole Very interesting 🧙♂️ If we are right then Buddhists, Hinduists, Sufists and few catholic mystics such as Master Eckhart are right too 🐸✌️
Actually, the best way to consume this video is not to care about the ranking of the epiphany rather the discussion about it, because the ranking is subjective, and I believe all of the epiphanies come from the same source / they’re all related to each other somehow
@josikinz why did you make a ranking video then? what was the point if you weren't seriously ranking them? why not just make a discussion video in the first place?
@@josikinzgood to know! I was going to ask why you graded so harshly but also appreciate the criticisms since it helped me reassess how helpful or not these epiphanies have been for me
@@thedude7174 Its her channel and she cant communicate how she EXACTLY feels about it because words are flawed, not enough, so a tier list is a kind of decent approach for her to tell us how she feels about it. And because tier lists are something we already know and are comfortable with. But maybe im just projecting.
Yoooo almost 2 years ago I made a post in your Reddit asking you to make a vid going over the different insights into reality psychedelics can offer, my prayers have been answered😌🙏. Can’t wait to watch it!
Yeah we’re definitely reusing a ton of this stuff! I’ll probably eventually make a few more assets for the channel too, but yeah we’re going to dial it back some but still use what I made
@josikinz I feel the elaboration really helps this video get to the people it needs to be due to the complexity of it, complex structures require this breakdown to help even those who don't trip understand the wisdom of the world.
Hello Josie I just discovered your channel today because I have been looking for answers about my own experience, I'm 22 years old Engineering undergraduate student and astronomy has always catch my attention. I experienced a Level 4 Unity State of Consciousness two weeks ago due to weed, I smoked a joint and while walking home, happened to me a "synchronicity phenomenon" in my consciousness I gave to two events that have a low probability of happening simultaneously a deep significance. I arrived home to think about this event because it scared me, and while thinking about that something triggered and I started having a heavy geometric mental hallucination, in the middle of my mind appeared a vividly image of cubes one inside of another, like a infinity repeated tesseract, I focused on it and started having fast paced thoughts that filled my mind, thoughts the flow of time, the patterns that appears in macro and micro scale in the universe like the Fibonacci sequence, and others thoughts that I cannot remember. Right away after that I felt a deep connection of oneness with the universe and all living beings. I started noticing that when you put effort on a thought or desire in your mind, the probabilities and flow of all things in the universe confabulate in a inexplicable way that makes the desire comes true. This kind of manifestation has helped me to reach my goals and made me feel like if I just wake up from the ego-driven existence.
Really well done on the editing and production quality on this one, just astonishing. The format is laid out nice and orderly too, I feel like I have tuned into some kind of podcast taking place hyperspace.
Josie, Emily and Hypnogogist! We thank you greatly for your extensive research and dedicated analyses of the psychedelic experience. Your collective work has provided immense insight to psychonauts and even trip sitters of all experience levels! Awesome Stuff! Love from South Africa 🌍
Top recurring ephipanies I’ve had during psychedelic experiences There is only one mind Time as we perceive it is an illusion/all is now self is an illusion and We are all the same being The universe experiencing itself or “god” We are living in a simulation/simulated reality Death is an illusion and life is a dream Mind precedes matter/consciousness is fundamental, the mind is not in the universe the universe is in the mind Subject object polarity The game …sorry I couldn’t help myself, I got excited, this is straight from a note I’ve had for years.
@@josikinzI see, I just edited my comment to say I got excited because this is straight from my notes and I see there is a decent amount of overlap, I’m looking forward to watching! :)
Good list! Not sure 'self is an illusion'. It is miraculous that we can exist as part of the one mind and also be independent, but our inability to explain probably means that it is reliant on non determined states, which sort of makes sense. ♥ yourme trip reports!
Does that mean that for the individual to exists in tandem with the one mind that the gnosis must be hidden? For if we experience it then it will determine one way or the other. Why faith is so important to some...people who are scared of that determination.
When I use psilocybin I always get this sense of understanding something fundamental about existence wich ends up being a joke. But after the trip I always forget or can't access is. I only remember that this insight points to the cosmical joke that we are trying to understand something that is not possible and not meant to be understood because there is nothing to be understood.
Oh yes, the human curse of incessantly seeking the unknowable. Inevitably we just give up and settle with a conceptual mirage which obscures the unknowable essence of reality. Sometimes we obsess over it, fight and even kill eachother in disagreement over who has the better model, eluding ourselves into thinking we got to the ultimate truth. We try to stare into the Abyss, then it giggles back at our naivety and futility.
When I was on shrooms everyone was repeating my thoughts out, my emotions were patterns in the environment. If i felt fear, i saw sharpness in the environment like sharp teeth. and love was hearts in the environment. EVERYTHING in our environment actually has a hidden meaning. What we see with our eyes is just the surface world, i think reality is so much more complex and multifaceted if we saw it with "the spirit's eyes". Not to mention that we are in some way part of a greater dimension. i feel like... if we see patterns in the environment equal to how we feel and think, and those patterns are always there... then what if we create reality in the same way? we just dont see the patterns we create with our naked eyes, but psychedelics open up some type of filter in the brain for us to see that information. I also remember closing my eyes to meditate and i saw like 20 hands, it looked like they were a collection of entities as one entity loving me, approving of me in full, i felt like that was god. it was an amazing experience. at every moment i was in total awe. i remember seeing how BEAUTIFUL everything looked. i was walking by a lake and saw a beautiful sunflower. i took a picture of it and sent it to my mom. and i told her "people sometimes tell us to stay at home and that outside is unsafe... but wheres the danger? all i see is BEAUTY!". i was also happy when my phone's battery died, because i realised how much time phones take from us from enjoying the moment. true beauty is in nature, because nature is pure life. when i was in a train, i realised that every station was a chakra lesson. at my first station, i realised what the first chakra is all about - survival. being unable to stop moving. being almost unconscious, like your mind is fogged. then i realised the importance of chakra 2. chakra 2 is all about communities and coming out of survival-based consciousness. then immediately when i realised that i had just learned about chakra 2, i realised "chakra 3 is next". within one second i see "platform 3" and i knew that i was receiving chakra lessons in that moment. then for chakra 3 i realised how much wasted effort i was putting in certain things. then i saw that my 3rd chakra was so full of a program of compulsivity (ocd) that it wasn't really me doing anything, it was just the third chakra having too much stuck energy. so of course i knew what to do next. when chakra 3 is disbalanced (and it is for most people), they become excessively controlling and that causes a disturbance for social consciousness/chakra 2. every time i did kundalini breathing as joe dispenza teaches it, the visuals would get stronger. every time i felt love, the visuals would get stronger. when we feel a lot of fear, it is like a tail that goes downwards from chakra 1. thats why animals have tails. it is an extension of their spine that represents survival consciousness. as i was walking past people, i realised that we should all smile when we see each other. i think ultimately the reason for all the world's problems is because people feel like shit and they take no effort to consciously attempt to love life (as in, to love everyone and everything the way god loves everyone and everything). i also really enjoyed seeing people's faces initially as someone i know, and then as someone else. i thought my first grade teacher was on the train with me from a distance, no joke. the world is so beautiful and amazing. and i think we are here on a sort of experiement to see how loving we can be and how unlimited we can become.
I only skimmed through the video, so I might’ve missed something, but I found it interesting that none of your epiphanies seem to focus on the body-aside from maybe the idea of the separate self being an illusion. I could be going off on a tangent here, but one of the simplest yet most impactful realizations I’ve had is: ‘You’ve only got one body, take care of it.’ Basically, prioritize health. Would you call that an epiphany? It definitely felt like one to me. I've realized a lot of ‘truths’ are shaped by culture or context, but the one thing I can consistently trust is my body-especially when it comes to physical experiences like sex and sensations. Honestly, it’s hard to critically look at these kinds of insights. Even writing this, I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make! Anyway, great video-thanks for sharing!
The brain can interpret what the body reacts to. Sometimes the brain malfunctions and sometimes the body itself has faulty sensors. Your perception however on the "sacredness of the body" is valid and a good thing 😊
This was wonderful, Josie! Congrats for doing what I've never seen anyone do before, packing so much philosophical insight plus your evaluations into an hour.
Here's a revelation psychedelics gave me that allowed me to understand what happens after death: Unbroken experience. It's quite simple-logically, our perception of time is unique to the human experience, as evident by our experience of infinite time in null time before birth. From this we can logically conclude that the instant the human experience of time ceases, in that same instant does experience resume; as the only possible result of infinite nothing is an eventual finite something. Thus, it is impossible for there to truly be "nothing" after death.
@@LLlap asking why is assuming I believe in some kind of reincarnation process, which I do not. Using even completely sober astral projection techniques we can conclude there are other planes of existence outside our physical reality. You can hypothesize it, until you do it to conclude it for yourself. It only makes sense, without conception of a consciousness there is nonexistence
@@LLlap Great question! This question likely has the same answer as after death. Your experience was simply different, but is no longer accessible due to the context you exist in now. Memories are a human experience, which is why we don't have memories of our pre-human experiences and never will. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen!
It always feels like remembering and distinctly so…that’s always been so fascinating to me. Oh and this is probably the best thing I’ve ever watched…wow thank you 🤍
can’t hear chrono trigger music in one of the introductory cutscenes and not subscribe lol i seriously love all the work that went into this. combined all of my faves: metaphysical conversations, old school games, and a quirky editing style + tone that doesn’t take itself too seriously in these kinds of topics (>ω･)☆
I’m glad everything stuck the landing with you! It really was a passion project combining all of our interests, I got in a lot of little Chrono Trigger and Earthbound/Mother 3 references lol, but there’s a whole mix, including a bunch of details and sfx that I feel people aren’t likely to catch, but *I* know
The fact that several of Josie’s “revelations” fit a materialist outlook is delightfully ironic. It catches in a contradiction people who consider psychedelic insights as authoritative communications of unerring entities or spirits outside our minds. By the way, this wide-ranging, stimulating, and beautiful video is special. It was worth the year-long wait.
I don't know if this counts as an epiphany, but one of the most interesting experiences I had was going down a dark tunnel with several beings of light who were the souls of great, long dead authors that I admired. I had conversations with them, and through this I think I realised that the books they wrote were in essence their having conversations with me across time, even long after their physical bodies were gone. It sounds kind of obvious when stated, but great works of literature and philosophy were written by other souls who simply wanted to communicate their experiences, and in some sense it's a living discussion we can maintain with the dead (although it's rather limited in being mostly one-sided, though this can be lessened by reading critically).
@@emilykins I like that the criteria are based on the actual impact the insight has on one's life rather than its perceived "depth". Anyway, this score means it's probably time to get a C- from josi lol
My favorite thing about the unity experience is that it is available to people in all belief systems. The most hsrdlined materialist can experience unity and it works with any system of belief
Holy shit what an amazing well written, produced, edited, explained and visually stunning piece you have created. Ngl, i don't have time to finish this video now but this hard work needs to be acknowledged! Please keep em comin
"The ego as a Cultural Filter & Context Shortcut" could simply be called "Cultural Subjetivity". But I love the effort that went into naming this epiphanies, the video was fantastic!
I underwent a 3 day psychosis inducing trip that created a story that made everything parallel metaphors for eachother (ex: my life events being metaphors for the story of all of creation) in analyzing this story produced by my brain in a psychotic state I came to literally every single one of these insights at one time or another, including your idea of prototheism I didn’t have a name for it but only a crazy cult looking symbol that aimed to unify all religions and science by making everyone understand the core concepts we’re all the same 😭
8:20 if the existence of “something” is presupposed from sheer “nothing” out of sheer logical necessity, that means logic as a condition for existence itself existed before nothing
I'd say that logic is definitely something supremely fundamental to this universe considering how unreasonably effective mathematics is at describing what goes on in it. Logic/math is self sustaining and infinite in its potential.
"Human thought is a simulation framework" is pretty much how manifestation works and how the mechanisms of the astral realm work as well. Could be worth looking a bit more into that
Oh, does the "reality as simulation" meme derive from manifestation? I don't have much/any experience with either of those ideas but I've heard the terms, any insight is appreciated!
@@bluespruce786 Ive had astral projection experiences, real or not I cant say, but manifestation and what I think about instantly occurs, it feels like the subconscious is flipped outwards and you become the character inside it.
Learning about computation/systems theory and universal computation is trippy because many of its ideas sound very reminiscent to these realisations, whilst at the same time adding and specifying things you would've never considered but have been shown mathematically to be true. I think that the way our brains interpret reality relies on categorisation and splitting things up, as well as 2D visualisation - you can see this with the idea of discrete "whole numbers" or set theory. However, in reality, quantities are a continuous spectrum. So we get this idea of "opposites" that you mentioned. On the 2D side, it's astonishingly hard to think about 3D gravity and other complex interactions without being able to play with it in toy form, for example within a video game, and even then it's just a vibe and a knack. We do this because it's way more computationally efficient to extrapolate from simpler systems that follow a similar rule. So instead of taking these insights wholesale, maybe we should try reversing these compromises by projecting them onto a category-less multidimensional system, and seeing how they match up.
I'm not even eight minutes into this and I love that little ad and the video's neon aesthetic. This reminds me of the angel-speaking reiki ASMRtist on TH-cam. I'm digging this vibe
Your description of interdependent opposites made me think of my own yin and yang experience on psychedelics. The light/dark, life/death, construction/destruction. Then I see you relate your description to the yin and yang. Very pleasing to watch and I believe some very valid information others can benefit from.
Those are all different though. Dark is the absence of light. Death is the end of life. And destruction is only loosely related to construction. Only light and dark are kind of opposite, but really physical things don't have opposites.
I found this really interesting. I LOVE the way your thoughts are projected. I feel like I can understand and relate to how you two see the concepts the way you projected your thoughts really resonated with me. I love to talk about these kinds of stuff with my best friend, and this is on the exact same wavelength. All the topics were really exciting, and I love to think about 'Human Thought is a Simulation Framework', and 'The Sentient Subconscious' was my favorite. I have some thoughts about 'Conceptual Thought vs Linguistic Thought', because, for me, I feel like words (sometimes) can be used to fully describe a conceptual thought, or at least work as a description to a path to that thought. This I feel I experience mainly because I study mathematics, so a lot of abstract concepts have comepletely lost contact with reality, and the way I understand the concepts is in some interconnection between conceptual and linguistic thoughts. On one hand, the concept are just built upon definitions, axioms, proofs, etc, which I see as linguistic thoughts, but then when you understand the meaning, the thought also becomes conceptual (for me it can feel like when learning a new subject, that a new sense suddenly appears which lets me 'see'). When solving a problem, you have (mostly) conceptual thoughts, but those thoughts are strictly bounded to the linguistic thoughts (definitions, theorems, etc), because it has to make sense. When learning, it's often the opposite, i.e. you don't have conceptual thought (feels like blindness), and instead go by the definitions, theorems, etc strictly to solve the problem, and it's not until the end of the problem, or days after everything clicks, that you 'see' as in conceptual understading. Am going to share this with my friend right away!
Really glad you like it! We knew we were making something that wouldn’t necessarily land with everyone, but for some people it’d really resonate, and that’s honestly where a lot my favorite art lives! I’m glad we finally got to put this weird project out there, thanks for enjoying!❤
Emily's voiced ideas on "opposites" is very hermetic. Like and unlike are the same just different degrees. Time doesn't exist as its own. The only reason tome exists is because matter exists and time is a place in space which is part of the material universe. An understanding of quantum physics will better describe how everything is conscious. The noetic realization is correct, but in this state we may not have the knowledge to understand it is a pragmatic way. I would encourage looking into quantum physics in order to understand the very valuable noetic concept.
Great video, especially the animations are insanely nice. I had an eternalism experience myself a couple of months ago, that whole section felt so immensely familiar, it was eerie :) I hope for more videos to come in the future from you guys, and I will buy a tshirt or print, they are amazing, as well :D
I'm really glad you brought up the difference between conceptual and verbal thinking! I feel like our conceptual thinking is a function of an ability to volitionally modulate connections between various sense memories, a sort of synaesthesia, that allows for more rapid processing, and a compression of the space necessary to remember key aspects of reality - almost like a Fourier transform of memories linked together by the conceptual common thread
this is really cool guys no offence but when i saw the intro i thought the things you guys were going to say were not going to make sense so i clicked off then i thought i might aswell try and then your guys ideas actually make sense and are more logical than i expected and you have some pretty interesting facts cool video thanks
I've "realized", that on psychedelics, my brain is in a more spontaneous state. I sometimes feel like the visuals can be seen as routes that the neuron firing paths take in the brain in the most energy-efficient ways. You can literally see the second law of thermodynamics in action - stuff tends to spontaneously get more chaotic and/or complex, because it's the most likely thing to happen. Also, it seems that psychedelics block some sensory information from the brain, so it starts filling in all this missing data. This unaffirmed hypothesis is based on my own experiences and fading memories of perhaps reading that somewhere online. So plz trust me. Ps, thank you for doing what you do - I believe you make this world a little less crazy. If you do add some craziness, it's in a good way.
I see y’all used some footage from the game Everything. I had the pleasure of meeting the solo programmer for it last year and got to play the whole game through while talking to him. Also bought a T-Shirt from you guys! Keep up the good work!
As somebody who has some foundation in thermodynamics universal self-complexification sounds like another way of stating entropy. With the specific verbalization of I'm thinking of entropy being the progression towards less ordered states.
yeah, it’s like consciousness’s version of entropy. although i would add that it’s also a little more charged with intent in the sense that it’s like a giant simulation model, play-testing all possibilities that could concretize into outcomes
Isn't that the opposite though? Living beings, especially those which seem to be sentient are exceptionally ordered and create ordered systems. Just think of humans being capable of rational abstraction that leads to a certain manipulation of environment according to norms and patterns (which is basically the basis of all culture). Biological entities are typically negentropic. And mind you this doesn't entail (at least necessarily) any metaphysical implications such as vitalism or intelligent design.
Not really. While entropy increases stuff can become more or less "complex". Only if you start in a very low entropy condition do you get "complexity" while stuff evens out. Like pouring milk into coffee, there's first milk and coffee separately, then swirls (compkexity) and then a homogenous brown liquid.
The flesh is just the autopilot, going through the motions while the real 'me' watches from somewhere else, wondering who’s steering this ship? #WhoAmIReally
It's really interesting to hear the stories about how these insights either stuck and integrated or did not layer into your reality and ranked lower. It seems to suggest that the soil in which these seeds are sewn are either supportive for the seed of perceptual insight to sow and grow or not, possibly influenced by presuppositions we arrived at the insights with, the experiences of our ancestors, our culture etc.
19:00 I can't believe you define it as the ability to receive/respond to input! To me an entity X is conscious if it *feels* like something to be X -- not merely if it has some input/output
Holy heck Josie!! Really excited about what you have to say about Faith!!! ⛪ I have witnessed Jesus the Messiah and his light after taking a sacred cannabis sacrament 🥰🙏🧘♀️ I can only imagine what insights a prophetic mind like yours has been graced with. God bless ✝️
josie you are just awesome :) found your website disregard everthing i say like 10 years ago, and was very impressed by how amazing you were in describing those kind of states, as objective as possible, with pictures and everything. Did't know who you were, and now i can watch you in such a cool video talking about your own experiences and what you think about it now, i think it's amazing. Great video, thx a lot. Ah and i also like the zelda stuff :) majoras mask! It's just fun watching you do what you probably do best - talking about psychedelics :D keep going!
Thank you so much! I will definitely keep it up until I die. It’s pretty rare to meet someone who remembers disregard these days haha, you’ve been following me for a long time!!! I started that site at 17 and am about to turn 32 omg
@@josikinz i actually used your three articles from that site (visual, cognitive, miscellaneous compononents) to teach my parents what i find so interesting about these substances - but they were not so impressed haha :DD. I was in my early 20s back then, now i'm 35. Funny to know now the writer of these articles was even younger than me at that time. Very impressing! Thanks a lot for your reply, feels special for me 💜
Immediately bought a tshirt because this is just wonderful. I'm an ex-psychedelic user, and current Theravada Buddhist, and you really broke down a lot of these things that people confuse about psychedelic experiences and Buddhist insight in a really precise way. You see the same traps in both spaces - that some particular experience or intuitive insight will enlighten you or solve your problems. But these experiences all have causes and conditions, psychedelic chemicals being one of them, and real insight and liberation is to do with permanently ending specific causes of specific experiences, rather than creating new causes and conditions to get specific experiences and intuitive insights.
Do you follow the Abidhamma which suggests that there are four ultimate realities? Citta has expansive qualities and this is why we see "abiding awareness" in many of the Suttas. Even throughout the suttas do we see Nibanna described as "infinite formless consciousness". If it had to be reified, monistic idealism is apt in terms of conventional recognition.
I have never read a sutta that describes nibbana that way. Infinite consciousness is the 6th jhana, not nibbana, which is the ending of perception and form - of which infinite consciousness is a perception
@@lewiji “‘Where do water, earth, fire, & wind have no footing? Where are long & short, coarse & fine, fair & foul, name & form brought to an end? “‘And the answer to that is: “‘Consciousness without surface, without end, luminous all around: Here water, earth, fire, & wind have no footing. Here long & short coarse & fine fair & foul name & form are all brought to an end. With the cessation of (the activity of) consciousness each is here brought to an end.’ -DN 11 "'If, good sir, you have directly known the extent of what has not been experienced through the allness of the all, may it not turn out to be actually vain and void for you.' "'Consciousness without surface, endless, radiant all around, has not been experienced through the earthness of earth ... the liquidity of liquid ... the fieriness of fire ... the windiness of wind ... the allness of the all.' -MN 49 We also see in the Atthakavagga wherein we see the verse: "Truth is one without a second, there are no a multiplicity of truths in the world." In the eight discourses on the ultimate. Buddhism is unique in that it is stressing immersion instead of polemical or scholarly understanding. However, if we had to reify the truth, I do not believe that considering ultimate reality as unconditioned awareness or the "primordial potential of the pure mind" as unskillful. This is even further made apparent in the emptiness doctrine of Nagarjuna, and its influence on Uttara Miamsa(Advaita Vedanta). Dhammpadda also stressing in the first verse: "Mind is the forerunner of all things". When talking about consciousness here we are not talking about the awareness of phenomena, nor as a platonic object such that it is the "One" or the storehouse of divine qualities in an ontological sense, but the Ontic, awareness in itself as spirit or purified as such.
@@lewiji Think as well of the ninth Jhana, neither perception nor non-perception, and how this state is usually marked by an anagami or arahant, there is no further insight possible, Nibanna then must be around the corner from this. The only reason Nirdoha is not Nibanna is that it is conditioned with a descent back into the conventional. I do feel that non-duality or "non-dual" consciousness or awareness is a decent way of understanding this. As far as I understand things, Emptiness, Dependent Origination and Anatta are all the same reality, consciousness isn't self as we might see with the Brahamanical Atman but we can only reach subtler and subtler levels of awareness until the shore has been reached. If that makes any sense. I do not believe Nibanna is a third neutral monist substance unrelated to mind, because this begs epistemic questions into how it is we can have insight into it, its just the unfragmented, the unconditioned, boundless and empty mind.
I agree that that view is perhaps skillful, but I feel the point being made here is like you said, just around the corner. The elements - sense objects - being stilled, reveals consciousness without surface. That being revealed puts a halt to the activities of mind (citta) - the forerunner of all things (perceptual objects). But then, nibbana is going a step further - consciousness transcended into nothingness, and nothingness transcended into a feeling of perception nor non perception - this feeling too can be transcended to nibbana, which is the cessation of perception and feeling. Consciousness is long since abandoned since it arises in contact with an object or feeling. And this really is the misunderstanding that transcendent psychedelic experiences miss out on because of the coarseness and noise of those means. Without sharp insight into the way that consciousness of perception and feeling arises together with the perceived or felt, one falls short of crossing the threshold into nibbana. If one falls short but presumes that a perception of consciousness without surface is nibbana, there is still a way to go - in my understanding. It sounds like we may be talking about the same thing anyway, it's tricky to discuss over TH-cam comments! Be well.
I do think that the lack of full comprehension of panpsychism vs the lack of belief in free will is an interesting pair. Without the knowledge of how material objects are consciousness (not conscious, necessarily, but consciousness itself), it can be hard to rationally find a way for personal will to exist. But when understood, personal will follows naturally.
Terrific video folks, I loved every minute of it. Lemme try to convey one of my recurrent epiphanies despite not being a native English speaker: each of the smallest single "units" that constitute reality contains another infinite universe within it, as finiteness and infiniteness coexist. Our minds are set to a specific scale, and scale is what makes experiencing reality possible.
Im surprised there isnt anything here talking about the realization of the emptiness of self, how the self is a mere mental construct produced by the 5 agreggates, there is also missing the understanding of impermanence of all things, and the unsatisfactoriness of existence dukkha
hearing you talk about your depersonalization really resonated with me because i too experience intense depersonalization and derealization after my second lsd experience. it took one experience, and the lens in which i simultaneously view myself and reality and deeply shifted. this video really gave me some deep insight into it that i never really considered. i always thought that the dissociation served as a purpose to “teach me” that i didn’t love myself. i thought that the psychedelic knew that the only way to help me love myself was to break me down to nothing. therefore, i would have to completely rebuild myself from the ground up. and that experience has held somewhat true. i am completely different from the person i was prior to that experience. however, i now see that idea being one created by the ego as trying to personalize the experience. when in reality, i am actually experiencing on a deeper level that is more in touch with the truth. i am a complex neurochemical computer system. and i am experiencing myself as a system rather than a physical being, creating that disconnect with my physical form. i too have had some of your epiphanies: the most notable is mckenna syndrome. my spiritual beliefs are too complex to discuss in a youtube comment, but i do believe two things that contradict each other a) we are spiritual beings having a human experience. our purpose as spiritual beings is to come into the human experience with the purpose of growing. the human experience is unique in the sense that it is the most difficult and challenging experience. we feel all emotions, and we must learn to navigate these to grow and become a higher version of our self. (this one i don’t believe entirely, but i do believe it to possibly hold truth.) b) we are merely the universe experiencing itself. we are all comprised of energy, which is collective and compromises everything physical & non-physical. the “reality” we experience is an illusion that places existence and an ego into this energy, but it is never separate or individual to this collective energy. the purpose for this illusion is something i have not personally explored yet. (if it even has purpose.) this belief directly followed my lsd experience that initiated the dissociation. it caused me to become a nihilist, which later turned into hedonism. my hedonism now greater influences the first belief, although i do believe my ego is placing importance and significance on my experience. lastly, i have experience what you call “the cultural filter as an ego shortcut.” i feel that in a sense, i have broken through that filter and am able to see why people present themselves certain ways, and how the ego will naturally try to view people through bias. i am able to see people in a completely unbiased nature, allowing myself to fully tap into empathy and understand individuals more quickly. it has also manifested as me becoming a very authentic and raw version of myself. i am a complete reflection of who i truly am. (i may have misinterpreted what you said in that section, but that’s how i internalized it.) anyways love your work as always. it is deeply fascinating to me. it is almost inspiring me to embark on a psychedelic journey again. i haven’t touched psychedelics since that lsd experience, due to fear. but you have since helped me realize that a lot of fears i had about my experience were actually just fears of the awakenings it was causing within me. i hope dmt lands in my possession someday, and i am able to fully experience and understand all these concepts in their entirety.
also i wrote this comment off of three hours of sleep and at 5am the next day lol. so this probably isn’t everything i wanted to say or is exactly how i wanted to put it. but i hope it makes enough sense.
The insights that were most profound for me came one after the other in a single Chaga experience. I was expecting some visuals and a chrysanthemum breakthrough experience. It was my first time trying it, and my previous thoughts about it were: - hyperdimensional non-Euclidean geometric morphologies - "self-transforming machine elves" - the cover of Tool - 10000 Days and other Alex Grey artworks Beyond this, I had no expectations, but what actually happened was completely unexpected. After the final puff, I began to feel like my visual field was rich in color, similar to the onset of psylocibin at around 1hr. Just as geometries were starting to appear, I closed my eyes. In an instant, I was in a state of total absorption, or dhyana. I heard two sentences in my mind that I am finding more and more meaningful with every passing day. The first sentence was a command: STOP CREATING IMAGES. It was not spoken in my own voice. Immediately, all the just emerging geometric patterns ceased. The second sentence was factual: THERE IS NO CENTER. This was the end of the experience. The absorption ceased immediately, and I was back in the room. Minutes later, a friend of mine took his hit, and he went into a world of hyperdimensional geometry for 10 minutes. - This entire experience showed me something about myself that I was completely unaware of. Until this experience, I had been "creating images" constantly, in the sense that I was living within my own mind's projections, in a separate world that was real only insofar as I was able to personally experience it. I had created a personality around which my own cognition revolved. I was imagining future scenarios and worrying or getting excited or making decisions based on something that I was fabricating alone. The resulting insight led me to understand that I had never been in contact with the real. I had always been, until that moment, an automaton, reacting to my own thoughts and emotions, and taking them for something real rather than what lies beyond them. The second insight was regarding the decentralized nature of reality. "There is no center," in the sense that everything that is manifest is intermeshed at every level. Every point is every other point, yet each point has a perspective. If you try to centralize, you are restricting yourself. Centralization is what causes visuals to appear while on psychedelics. The goal of life, therefore, is to be as many perspectives as possible, thereby finding the state of constant lucidity, where you create no images whatsoever, and you are in abiding awareness. I had had light body experiences, understandings of the All being One, but this was different. This was a specific key to a specific pathway. This was my awareness informing me of my next obstacle and how to overcome it. Several months later, during a deep meditation after performing yoga asanas and chanting AUM, I meditated on a mantra that came to me spontaneously: I AM AWARENESS OF AWARENESS After repeating the mantra many times, suddenly, my awareness was completely decentralized on every level. Everything was lucid. My mind produced no thoughts unless engaged to. My emotional state was stable unless I up or down regulated it. I could see the surface of my mind, and there was absolutely nothing there. I could then touch the surface, and there a thought was. I would go to sleep, and it was a lucid dreamless sleep with restfulness I had never felt before. Mudras I had never known before were spontaneously shown to me by my own hands, and their ensuing energetic signatures could be felt on every level of the body. This sequence of events changed my conception my life into just life. There is no "my life" anymore. I am the awareness that inhabits this body. I am not the body. I am the awareness that that inhabits the mind. I am not the mind. This mind and body are a gift. Life is not about what I want to be. Life is about being totally. Life is not about having my questions answered. Life is about dissolving all questions, and simply knowing by being awareness itself. The brain can process information very efficiently, but it needs defragmentation. Mantras are powerful defragmentation devices. The repetition brings the mind into a unitary state, which is a restful, integrative state of mind, where the brain can compute at maximum efficiency. This is decentralization, and this is the meaning of "there is no center". There is nothing to search for or final question to be answered. There is only awareness of awareness. This has been the end of my journey. There is nothing for me to find anymore, and when I search for myself, it is already gone. The ensuing bliss is unparalleled. Awareness does absolutely all that is needed, nothing more, nothing less. There is nothing for me or you to do but to come to this final insight. Once it is there, the abiding, recursive awareness of awareness of awareness of awareness of awareness... There live love, peace, joy, and ecstasy. One more point. Awareness of awareness is not meta-cognition. Meta-cognition is awareness of your cognitive processes, which is something one can do whether they are experientially aware of being awareness of awareness or not. Awareness is not a cognitive process. Awareness is its own phenomenon. Awareness makes consciousness possible. They are not synonymous. Awareness is the witness. Consciousness is the process. You are not the process. You are the awareness that is aware of being aware of the process. You are the witness of the witness, not the witness of the witnessing. We have also misunderstood "free will". A will that is free is not tied to a person's decisions. A will that is free is just happening as it is. So you are correct in that we have no "free will" in the way it has been defined, simply because we don't understand the word free. Free means decentralized. When will is decentralized, it is not yours anymore. Will belongs to awareness of awareness, and that will is the same in all. It is childlike, because it is not yet biased by experience. It is innocent, free of a separate desire for a separate will. A great book to read that explains the linguistic and experiential distinction between having free will and being free of a separate will, Erich Fromm's 'To Have or To Be?' is a wonderful book on the distinction between the having mode and being mode.
Very cool, it's a good thing to have all these insights compressed into one video, also the visual style is fascinating. I have taken Modafinil in the morning and it sometimes makes me feel like shit, which is the thing today sadly, so I might return back to this post and do EDITS. Here are some of my notes: 1) The Illusory Nature of the Separate Self Probably nothing here from my end, it's just a paradigm where everything is understood as interconnected, which is by its very nature is, meaning so are we. 2) Interdependent Opposites Catalyzed Existence This explanation has allowed me to understand the statement that everything are but layers and layers of abstractions of fundamental dualities. My take --> Fundamentally, we as humans can never understand anything as "itself" (aka get access to the noumena), everything that we ever get to know is but a model of the thing in itself in our minds, and even the concept of "opposites" is but such a construct of our minds to make sense of the world around us. 3) Pantheism My take --> Fully dependent on the definition of "God" as well as our own fundamental mental limitations, aka where our maximum potential cognition is able to reach, to explain this point a little bit more, imagine an ant, a dog and a human. These three creatures all have vastly different "cognitive potential" with humans clearly having the most complex. But personally I think that when trying to grasp concepts such as "God," we are hitting our fundamental limit and are just circulating within our various definitions and systems, in which these definitions were established. 4) Eternalism My take --> Here I like to ask the question "What does it mean for something to exist?" What you present is basically a different paradigm of understanding spacetime, which might be more accurate relative to our current knowledge. But we may always go one step beyond the paradigm and ask what its fundamental assumptions (such as "existing") mean etc. 5) Panpsychism My take --> I would think a little differently, what was presented is basically a panpsychic specturm, which "measures" the amount of consciousness any separate object displays, therefore I would not think in a way that some things are or are not conscious (binary way of thinking) but rather think in a way that some things have like 0.0001% consciousness etc. Note that the very first insight is "The Illusory Nature of the Separate Self" implying that everything is interconnected, therefore for Panpsychism to make sense, we have to basically "step down" from that paradigm and arbitrarily "disconnect" things in our mind again (into animals, humans, trees, you name it...) and then test each such arbitrarily created category for signs of consciousness. 6) Human Thought is a Simulation Framework My take --> If we accept that there are hypothetical beings with much higher cognitive capabilities than humans (similar when comparing an ant and a human) and such beings would essentially "simulate" humans, we have already reached a corner of our mind that I would not take as seriously, for this is a highly antropocentric hypothesis and if we are a creation of something with much higher cognitive capabilities, then our attempts at understanding something like that are essentially rendered meaningless and beyond our capabilities. 7) Hard Determinism My take --> Cause and Effect are again categories of human mind for understanding the world and there might be rules/laws we are not aware of yet. However, when thinking within cause and effect and free will, I personally think that Free Will is real but extremely limited and dependent on many factors, and that most humans act more or less on an automat, only using free will to a very limited extent (but more free will might be unlocked when lowering our reactivity and growing vertically in the mind), Ego Development Theory from Cook-Greuters partially supports this position. Therefore, I say that free is a valid way of thinking about the world (aka "exists") but is an unlockable spectrum rather than a binary thing. 8) Sentient Mind Create Meaning My take --> I agree fully here, we might however go into the territory where we speculate that we only project meaning derived from some World of Ideas etc. There is always a place how to question something that already seems established. 9) The Sentient Subconscious My take --> I also agree here, back in my past when my way of thinking was already completely useless, I felt as if something within me has slowly attempted to take control over me and that thing is now me as a baseline but there is someone else awaiting to do the same etc. I think that when humans develop the ability to take a perspective of second, third, fourth, fifth... Etc person perspective (more in EDT I have mentioned above), they are essentially just making a previously subconscious part of their brain conscious. 10) Universal Self Design My take --> Even if this is true, I would not judge whether it is true based on how I feel about it at the moment, for until everything that is there to happen happens, it is essentially impossible for us to really tell whether we would have made any adjustments for we do not know the full bigger picture yet. And again, if everything is connected, then the hypothetical original designer is essentially the only one who can determine whether all was designed well or not. 11) Synchronicity as a Function of Exponential Self Complexification No real take here, should listen to more times to grasp it fully. 11) Conceptual Thought vs Linguistic Thougt Here i also agree fully, and also think that people think in concepts more than they realize, the examples you gave are nice ones. 12) The Ego as a Cultural Filter Also agree 13) Hardwired Spirituality Function My take --> This is something that kicks in when people start reaching higher levels of cognition/Ego Level for they start to realize the arbitrary "borders" of the Ego and their interconnectedness with everything that is.
Only about 5 minutes in -- and I love the discussion and agree with so many points! I think so many of these concepts have indeed changed my life, but one of the greater realizations is that in some way -- if I am eternal/god/oneness then I'm supposed to be EXACTLY who and what I am right now and who kind of cares? It's very humbling and beautiful to remember, and then, I just get on with life as it is. Heaven and all the other cosmic stuff is my nature, so it can always wait while I live this life kinda vibe. My own specific insight -- I think that nothing is really how it seems. I am one of the crazies that believes that perhaps there are different rulesets for different experiences -- that the universe does not need to obey some kind of stricture of how we currently perceive it at all. (The metaphor I'll use for the rest of this lil mini-rant is that different video games/simulations can garner vastly different "base codes" that run them. Why couldn't different universes/space time bubbles?) Because, I refuse to think that, say, people who are in great suffering experience that suffering eternally. I think it is logically coherent to say that perhaps the physical time-space of that "bubble" of reality does indeed live on eternally, but in the same way that a video game does. Resident Evil is a memory, for instance, of a game. It is stored on your computer. When you want to go in and experience the horror of it, you can do so at your will. But when you get too scared or are having your face eaten by someone -- you can simply walk away from the computer and turn the game off. A larger "you" always exists in this context that is willingly experiencing things. But then again, this could just be a human-made metaphor made up with my human-centric concepts or some kind of elaborate cope against suffering/death. I also think, against the NPC argument, that this concept would allow for what is known as ""free will". Yes, the simulation you inhabit is "determined". Your body, your responses, and the ways you interact are probably very deterministic -- decided by the code of the game. And yet, is that YOU in the most significant sense? Are are "YOU" along for the ride? Or can a player agent from "above" really influence decisions at least in a small way. Video games can have branching pathways that allow you to decide how the game goes -- resulting sometimes in hundreds or thousands of different endings. They're deterministic in the sense that the game world can't become radically different and all the endings are pre-programmed -- but there is "choice" in some real sense. Could life also be similar? That your player character is largely determined by "stats" (genes), "setting/gameworld" (enviroment), and "player physics/game engine" (physics/mathematics) but the way the game plays out is actually up to a higher intelligence inhabiting it? The sense of decision making, as I type here, is sort of significant to that experience. I have experienced forms of disassociation, and I don't want to diminish it (with large downsides to mental health at times for me), but that experience too merely seems to produce different results. Disassociation almost felt as though I was allowing the simulation to "play through" without my own interaction, but when I eventually decided to re-engage the optionality felt like it was real. Being really "committed" to the character or attached to the ego structure brings with it certain special events and feelings that I couldn't have felt when I was more disassociated. Edit #2: Further into the video -- you note that you dislike "universal design" for the reason that you perceive of no apparent reason for suffering. And yet, while uncomfortable, I think this notion isn't F-tier for me. It seems to me that if you are not actually your player character, suffering isn't really as real as we make it out to be and that pre-defined suffering might make sense to an eternal entity of some type. This, of course, leads to a lot of ethical and moral dilemmas. Why would suffering exist at all? Why would things like mass genocide ever occur to pre-planned souls? How would that be helpful? Aren't we gaslighting people when we claim their suffering is justified under God or something? I agree with these counterpoints in that they are important but the more I've thought on it, the more I see space for the possibility that this "pre-planning" occurs (mostly through listening to people who have undergone death or near-death experiences). In response to these arguments I'd ask a hypothetical -- what makes trauma really traumatic? Sure, the actual event is horrifying within itself, but, to me, the real apparent reason trauma is so damaging is that it takes a long time to recover from it -- It leaves a mark over a period of time which interferes with our lives, sometimes for decades at a time. The worst trauma to the body needs constant physical care and attention and equally our emotional and behavioral side can be just as pernicious. Yet, to an eternal being -- this is light work. I don't mean "light worker" new age stuff, but rather, its true nature KNOWS that it can survive it because it is eternal so it isn't concerned with what it sees as a temporary state. So it is always actually careful to only invite or "play a character" who has certain events or deficits that it can handle at that time. I.e. Let's say a soul/consciousness wants to learn about humility -- so they take on the role of someone who isn't the most attractive person or someone who has a disability and they learn a lifetime of lessons about how to confront such disadvantages. Would this not be useful or interesting to a being which is quite literally all powerful and knows for a fact that it is immortal/infinite/one with God? Again, just food for thought. I have no real solid leanings one way or the other, but it's interesting to ponder!
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Non-opposite poles. Vibration between poles varies depending on their relation to one another. States are indeterminate until observed. That is why the one mind seeks to explore previously unseen areas which is why each life is unique and special and important. Is it it moral for us to view, and thereby determine. The mind/heart construct is partially a processor but equally, and perhaps more significantly, it is a receiver. The type of perception we use influences the nature of determination 55:00 . Our bodies are combinations of various forms of perception. Each form of perception is a sub-ego in the one-mind. The sub egos compete with one another for the chance to view and thereby determine. 57:55 Haha, love it!♥ Is it possible for us to choose our perceptional preferences? If so do we in fact have agency in creating the universe? Or at least in determining those parts of the universe that have been perceived. Are there certain types of perception that seek to snuff out the others? Great video think! Thanks for posting it up♥
Hi Guys, I've been following you for a while now and am very interested and excited to watch your videos as they are very informative and in-depth in knowledge. In this video I was very excited and proud that you mentioned some of the best minds in the world of psychedelics ie, Terrence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Alan Watts etc. The mention of the Tao was also very fitting. I am an unknown self taught practitioner of metaphysics, psychedelics, taoism, esoteric knowledge and the alike. Most of this video made perfect sense but I would disagree on some of the tier selections made towards the end of the video, but thats my personal outlook and criticism. I would like to share a few of my experiences of psychedelics i've had in the past and one a couple of days ago actually. I'll begin with the most recent one. Before I start i'd like to say I'd like to say I have the perfect way of portraying my thoughts but they are in mind and putting it into human language just takes away so much from it, I'm sure you understand what this means. BTW i truly believe as Thoth the Atlantean mentioned in his Emerald tablets that the highest knowledge is unutterable which aligns with why I mentioned this. (btw ive read the tablets over 300 times and implore you to read it so that you can mention its profundity in your videos if you wish). Anyways, after cleaning myself and emptying my mind of its junk I meditated and went into the experience with the intention of just praying to God to open his kingdom (doors) to me and let me experience the blissful eternal light. Because I am that I am and I know myself to be of good nature I knew I wouldnt be turned back so almost instantly I was presented with a light of infinite radiance and out of it was beaming lights of color and love shaping itself to communicate with me and it showed me that I (we) are all part of this light and will return to it in the end so theres nothing to fear whatsoever. The light was so healing, comforting and warm that I cant imagine it to be nothing else but God's love. And as the DMT started to wear off I asked mentally one thing which was a question of whats going to happen to the state of the world as its in chaos? I was at the time being pulled away coming back into mundane physical form but I could see the events of the world in little thumbnail type images in the stream of light and I understand that it was all a state of mind and that we can choose whatever reality we want to live in. And this comes back to the teaching of Alan Watts and Neville Goddard where we just need to create the reality we want to be in in our minds eye and applying faith and consistent thought until it become reality. This is what i extracted from this trip. My previous one to this was very similar so i wont go into that, but one before that was very different whereas back a few years ago when I did a dmt trip I was very hungry for knowledge, so in my trip I encountered alien like creatures looking down on me while i was on a hospital bed and they were examining me to fix my insecurities that i hoped would be dealt with and rectified, so they ever so politely asked for my permission to take my soul away to fix it and bring it back, after this weird experience I was shown what looked exactly like a disco ball and each facet of the ball was a subject of knowledge, knowing that my time was limited and dmt was slowly wearing off I chose to learn about linguistics, secrets of levitation and something else I cant remember, but they denied me the knowledge because they said to me, 'you dont even have the basics of what your asking and the advanced knowledge we have for you wont be understood'. I fully respected and understood that and I left the experience with a satisfied feeling. Tarkan from Australia I hope this all made sense. Keep it up guys btw you guys are doing a great job, love it.
I'm currently writing a detailed report about an incredible epiphany i had the other day. It's too long for TH-cam comments but if there's another way to privately share it, let me know. The video was incredible, feel like I need to watch it again to understand more than 30% of it.
You asked at the end for people to share their psychedelic-catalysed noetic insights, so here's my stab at it, but do understand that there's more than what I'm willing to sit down and type: Spirituality impulse and proto-theism are definitely two of them. I encountered those on literally my first mushroom trip (which came 10 years after my first trip of any sort, which was salvia). Maybe my second, because my first and second were 24 hours apart and which things happened in which trip is a little fuzzy. For simplicity, let's just call them one trip, because they were both so profound and so close together in time. My ego and another conscious agent were in telepathic, conceptual dialogue with each other. I would ask questions, and get instant answers, because all that was communicated was concepts instead of words. Each answer I recieved felt like a piece of the puzzle fitting into the bigger picture, and each one gave me this "Duh, of COURSE!" sort of feeling. As this went on, the pace of exchange would increase as I found it less and less difficult to process each "answer." Fairly quickly, the conceptual telepathic dialogue became so rapid, and so intense, that I didn't even have to question or think anymore. Everything just flooded into me until I felt the whole picture was being presented to me at once. I was it, it was me, yadda yadda. Ofc, I could never capture it all in words, but I found myself in absolute awe. Came down with a case of McKenna syndrome, except I was self aware enough to hold back and not be a raving loon about it. A lot of the stuff you ranked in lower tiers, if not all of it, came up along the way as well. Personally, I would rank certain things higher, but I can appreciate why you would rank them lower. A lot of these lower tier things are things which a person can reasonably contemplate and conclude without psychedelics. Psychedelics just move them from being a mere intellectual rationale/concept, to something you "know in your bones." I would say these all came to me either along the way to prototheism, or as offshoots of it, all during the same trip. Really, I got all my biggest insights on that first one or two mushroom trips, and everything else I've gone through under the influence have either been reminders, or superfluous fluff. I felt temporarily hyper-intelligent, and came down pretty much yammering things I later found echoed in the rhetoric of Alan Watts, Terence McKenna, Ram Dass, and Buddhist scripture. I was not aware of these people or scriptures until AFTER the fact, but I HAD taken an interest in philosophy and psychology prior to "that one trip." These things only confirmed what I'd found afterward, which reinforced my McKenna syndrome. The notion that we're all just "god in drag," is something that got "realised," during a later trip, however, where I found myself witnessing, and at one with, what seemed to be "the source of all potentiality." That was arrived at by the mushrooms initially mocking me, followed by dragging me through multiple "past lives," during which I kept telling the mushrooms "No, really, do what you want to me. I don't care." Eventually, I guess they just kind of gave up on trying to "break," me, and decided to let me in on "the secret," so to speak. The "source of all potentiality," was in the shape of a torus, and was represented by an electric blue hurricane of... idk, energy or whatever? But it felt like pure power. Again, I was it and it was me, yadda yadda. I tried to break away from it, or break it in half or something, but whenever I got close to doing that, it felt like I was going to delete existence, which my still lingering (however seemingly shrunken) ego DID NOT WANT TO HAPPEN. So I'd chicken out and decide "No no, let's not try that. It's too risky." When I started to come down, I briefly made the mistake of thinking I was god for a few seconds, then realised how r3t4rd3d that is, and ended up drawing the conclusion that "If I'm god, so is everyone else," because I as an individual, am NOT special. At least, no more special than everyone else. Ergo, we're all "god in drag." Solipsism is another one I came across. "We're all one, maaaan." Which means, we're all one thing, so this whole experience is really just "me," at "play," with "myself." Ofc, I don't mean me as an individual ego. I just mean the "me," that we all are. I.e. that which we frequently refer to as "god," "source," the "higher self," etc. This made individual ego me sad for a while, because it made me, us, feel lonely and tragic as hell. If there's no other, then wtf are we here for, etc? I delved into all manner of spiritual modalities, and found each one to be lacking something. I spent a couple years doing this, and everything just felt so cultish. There are so many valid contradicitions from all different perspectives, and I eventually decided "fuck it, just be the guy you were born into. That's probably what you were always supposed to do anyway." So here I am, basically having come full circle into being I guess a slightly more sophisticated, aware versioin of my former self. I don't bother with spiritual ego nonsense anymore because it's a waste of time, and time is irrelevant anyway. I haven't tripped properly in over two years, and although I'd like to delve back in again, I don't feel much of a need to, other than to try and get my mental health back to the peak I'd achieved when I WAS fancy-dancy psychedelic spiritual ego me. A reset would be nice at this point, but at the same time, it's not necessary, because I'm already being who I was meant to be. I always was. I also don't want to risk another hyper-slap, so if and when I do trip again, I have to be certain I "need," it, in terms of just... mental wellbeing, I guess? Giving myself a kick up the ass to stop being an alcoholic and start taking on more physically and mentally healthy habits again? Basically things to satisfy myself as an ego, which again, is pointless, because I'm gonna die some day, and return to being the ocean or whatever. I guess this ego, like any, just wants to have a nice time while it exists.
One experience I've had was what I like to call The Last Trip. This might be a thing but it's just what I called it the last time I tripped. It was the last time because I was instructed, by what felt like an entity, never to trip again. They stated that I had learned all I needed to through such experiences and any further knowledge would need to come from any other source. Anyway, amazing video, thanks so much for posting : o )
That happened to me! I tripped a year or so after that experience, however, in a completely different environment (in the middle of the Rocky Mountains of Colorado) where I uncovered the most important of revelations for me personally (my identity as a woman)
8:30 There was a zen master who once said that time moves from present to past. What he means is that the future only exists as imagining, and that now is what is happening. Memory itself is quite a trip. Food for thought
Hey everyone, it's been a little while. We wanted to make this video extra elaborate in terms of the editing as a sort of 100k subscriber special and to serve as an entertaining means for finally getting out all of the silly supposed cosmic epiphanies that psychedelics have apparently bestowed upon me over the years.
So, between the sheer scope of this video, health problems that are now largely resolved, and me working a full time job for a psychedelic research company, this video ended up taking us almost a year to make. However, we're already working on another video that we intend to get out much quicker, and I really want to finally move into making regular content for this channel.
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Wow, this is great. Love the animations. It makes me want to play the psychedelic life game (😂). I need these inventory items. Great stuff. I'm still finishing it.
Really quick, off the bat, I wonder if any of you are familiar with yuan chi from the Tao? The unity of polarized halves is more than just "unity as opposites" there. There's an actual "chi", or prana, which is more neutral and polarizes in to different energies. It is difficult to apply that to the extreme night and day concepts (unity as two halves) but can be seen in something like visual light.
There, the light has seven poles as a unity, but the source light, being more neutral, has an original property not fully present in separated rays. In the body, the more neutral core is yuan chi, which is yellow gold and is said to be the primary fluid of the meridians. It polarizes in to outer wood, fire, water, and metal chi forms.
amazing video. keep making videos!
Gratitude and congratulations!! 🤗😘♾💗
Is the discord still active?
We worked so hard on this and I really hope you all love it 💜💜💜
It's awesome!
Well, the Yin is strong, but the Yang is well developed and balances perfectly. IOW, Mu! 😊
The visuals are on point right here I remember my desks in this form and fashion!
Well done production
Haha so good! Very strong connectedness to the onemind recently but didn't stop me from getting all PO'ed the other day when some dirty rat bastard version of us stole my preferred parking space♣ Great video, love the trans dimensional desk ♥
It is so fascinating that so many of us have these same epiphanies independently.
Maybe we simply all heard of such concepts before our epiphanies and it influenced them all 🤔
Yeah I definitly had the same too... 🐸🙏 But I am into buddhism and spirituality so does it count ?
I mean, once you did a trip you started to search for informations about what the hell just happened like everybody else didn't you ?🧙♂🧙♂
Did you heard about all those concepts before your epiphanies ? 👽
@@Roxar96 exactly.
@@Roxar96 Personally, I had not heard of these concepts before taking psychedelics. I was a sheltered kid in a religious cult, and I had done exactly no research into any of these topics prior to experiencing them.
I think the most likely conclusion would be that there true, I had these epiphanies at like 18 before ever doing psychedelics , I really think that your just becoming smart snuff on psychs to actually idk process the word logically
@@wavehellhole Very interesting 🧙♂️ If we are right then Buddhists, Hinduists, Sufists and few catholic mystics such as Master Eckhart are right too 🐸✌️
Actually, the best way to consume this video is not to care about the ranking of the epiphany rather the discussion about it, because the ranking is subjective, and I believe all of the epiphanies come from the same source / they’re all related to each other somehow
You are one of the few people to get this lol
I also didn't take the rankings seriously at all
@josikinz why did you make a ranking video then? what was the point if you weren't seriously ranking them? why not just make a discussion video in the first place?
@@thedude7174ranking videos are hot rn. Actually a pretty clever format for a discussion.
@@josikinzgood to know! I was going to ask why you graded so harshly but also appreciate the criticisms since it helped me reassess how helpful or not these epiphanies have been for me
@@thedude7174 Its her channel and she cant communicate how she EXACTLY feels about it because words are flawed, not enough, so a tier list is a kind of decent approach for her to tell us how she feels about it.
And because tier lists are something we already know and are comfortable with.
But maybe im just projecting.
Yoooo almost 2 years ago I made a post in your Reddit asking you to make a vid going over the different insights into reality psychedelics can offer, my prayers have been answered😌🙏. Can’t wait to watch it!
I hope it lived up to your expectations!
@@emilykins it did! the video was great
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Yoooo Sunset In Silvercity PFP
The production style here needs to stick. Never change it. This is it.
We will reuse the assets for a similar style going forward but I don’t think we ever want to make a video quite this elaborate again xD
Yeah we’re definitely reusing a ton of this stuff! I’ll probably eventually make a few more assets for the channel too, but yeah we’re going to dial it back some but still use what I made
Agreed
This is great, I am a huge fan. I wish I could join in on some of these convos with language from my experience as well. But all in due time I suppose
@josikinz I feel the elaboration really helps this video get to the people it needs to be due to the complexity of it, complex structures require this breakdown to help even those who don't trip understand the wisdom of the world.
this channel will be incredibly valuable for future researchers
Hello Josie I just discovered your channel today because I have been looking for answers about my own experience, I'm 22 years old Engineering undergraduate student and astronomy has always catch my attention.
I experienced a Level 4 Unity State of Consciousness two weeks ago due to weed, I smoked a joint and while walking home, happened to me a "synchronicity phenomenon" in my consciousness I gave to two events that have a low probability of happening simultaneously a deep significance.
I arrived home to think about this event because it scared me, and while thinking about that something triggered and I started having a heavy geometric mental hallucination, in the middle of my mind appeared a vividly image of cubes one inside of another, like a infinity repeated tesseract, I focused on it and started having fast paced thoughts that filled my mind, thoughts the flow of time, the patterns that appears in macro and micro scale in the universe like the Fibonacci sequence, and others thoughts that I cannot remember.
Right away after that I felt a deep connection of oneness with the universe and all living beings.
I started noticing that when you put effort on a thought or desire in your mind, the probabilities and flow of all things in the universe confabulate in a inexplicable way that makes the desire comes true.
This kind of manifestation has helped me to reach my goals and made me feel like if I just wake up from the ego-driven existence.
welcome to this reality tunnel haha
Really well done on the editing and production quality on this one, just astonishing. The format is laid out nice and orderly too, I feel like I have tuned into some kind of podcast taking place hyperspace.
@@ob3ythee.t.128 thank you so much! This thing was a labor of love and we really took things way further than we reasonably should have lol
@@hypnagogist-art Well I am glad you did, Very high quality stuff 👍
Josie, Emily and Hypnogogist!
We thank you greatly for your extensive research and dedicated analyses of the psychedelic experience.
Your collective work has provided immense insight to psychonauts and even trip sitters of all experience levels!
Awesome Stuff!
Love from South Africa 🌍
Thank you so much for the lovely words! I’m really glad you enjoy our work!
Amaaaaazing video 😁😁 couldn’t look away for a second with all the cool visuals and had to watch a couple parts twice to take in the commentary.
Top recurring ephipanies I’ve had during psychedelic experiences
There is only one mind
Time as we perceive it is an illusion/all is now
self is an illusion and
We are all the same being The universe experiencing itself or “god”
We are living in a simulation/simulated reality
Death is an illusion and life is a dream
Mind precedes matter/consciousness is fundamental, the mind is not in the universe the universe is in the mind
Subject object polarity
The game
…sorry I couldn’t help myself, I got excited, this is straight from a note I’ve had for years.
Quite a few of these are examined at length in the video! ^_^
@@josikinzI see, I just edited my comment to say I got excited because this is straight from my notes and I see there is a decent amount of overlap, I’m looking forward to watching! :)
@@josikinz also I was the 42nd like and I’m very satisfied with that 🙃 k bye
Good list! Not sure 'self is an illusion'. It is miraculous that we can exist as part of the one mind and also be independent, but our inability to explain probably means that it is reliant on non determined states, which sort of makes sense. ♥ yourme trip reports!
Does that mean that for the individual to exists in tandem with the one mind that the gnosis must be hidden? For if we experience it then it will determine one way or the other. Why faith is so important to some...people who are scared of that determination.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this beautiful conversation and video 💜
the editing is so well done!!! the drawings and the whole vibe is just so perfect, this is an amazing find! cant wait to look at your other videos
Thank you so much! It was a difficult thing to put together but we’re really proud of it!
When I use psilocybin I always get this sense of understanding something fundamental about existence wich ends up being a joke. But after the trip I always forget or can't access is. I only remember that this insight points to the cosmical joke that we are trying to understand something that is not possible and not meant to be understood because there is nothing to be understood.
The cosmic giggle
Oh yes, the human curse of incessantly seeking the unknowable. Inevitably we just give up and settle with a conceptual mirage which obscures the unknowable essence of reality. Sometimes we obsess over it, fight and even kill eachother in disagreement over who has the better model, eluding ourselves into thinking we got to the ultimate truth. We try to stare into the Abyss, then it giggles back at our naivety and futility.
When I was on shrooms everyone was repeating my thoughts out,
my emotions were patterns in the environment. If i felt fear, i saw sharpness in the environment like sharp teeth. and love was hearts in the environment. EVERYTHING in our environment actually has a hidden meaning. What we see with our eyes is just the surface world, i think reality is so much more complex and multifaceted if we saw it with "the spirit's eyes". Not to mention that we are in some way part of a greater dimension. i feel like... if we see patterns in the environment equal to how we feel and think, and those patterns are always there... then what if we create reality in the same way? we just dont see the patterns we create with our naked eyes, but psychedelics open up some type of filter in the brain for us to see that information.
I also remember closing my eyes to meditate and i saw like 20 hands, it looked like they were a collection of entities as one entity loving me, approving of me in full, i felt like that was god. it was an amazing experience. at every moment i was in total awe.
i remember seeing how BEAUTIFUL everything looked. i was walking by a lake and saw a beautiful sunflower. i took a picture of it and sent it to my mom. and i told her "people sometimes tell us to stay at home and that outside is unsafe... but wheres the danger? all i see is BEAUTY!". i was also happy when my phone's battery died, because i realised how much time phones take from us from enjoying the moment. true beauty is in nature, because nature is pure life.
when i was in a train, i realised that every station was a chakra lesson. at my first station, i realised what the first chakra is all about - survival. being unable to stop moving. being almost unconscious, like your mind is fogged. then i realised the importance of chakra 2. chakra 2 is all about communities and coming out of survival-based consciousness. then immediately when i realised that i had just learned about chakra 2, i realised "chakra 3 is next". within one second i see "platform 3" and i knew that i was receiving chakra lessons in that moment. then for chakra 3 i realised how much wasted effort i was putting in certain things. then i saw that my 3rd chakra was so full of a program of compulsivity (ocd) that it wasn't really me doing anything, it was just the third chakra having too much stuck energy. so of course i knew what to do next. when chakra 3 is disbalanced (and it is for most people), they become excessively controlling and that causes a disturbance for social consciousness/chakra 2.
every time i did kundalini breathing as joe dispenza teaches it, the visuals would get stronger. every time i felt love, the visuals would get stronger. when we feel a lot of fear, it is like a tail that goes downwards from chakra 1. thats why animals have tails. it is an extension of their spine that represents survival consciousness.
as i was walking past people, i realised that we should all smile when we see each other. i think ultimately the reason for all the world's problems is because people feel like shit and they take no effort to consciously attempt to love life (as in, to love everyone and everything the way god loves everyone and everything).
i also really enjoyed seeing people's faces initially as someone i know, and then as someone else. i thought my first grade teacher was on the train with me from a distance, no joke.
the world is so beautiful and amazing. and i think we are here on a sort of experiement to see how loving we can be and how unlimited we can become.
💚🙏♾
I only skimmed through the video, so I might’ve missed something, but I found it interesting that none of your epiphanies seem to focus on the body-aside from maybe the idea of the separate self being an illusion. I could be going off on a tangent here, but one of the simplest yet most impactful realizations I’ve had is: ‘You’ve only got one body, take care of it.’ Basically, prioritize health. Would you call that an epiphany? It definitely felt like one to me. I've realized a lot of ‘truths’ are shaped by culture or context, but the one thing I can consistently trust is my body-especially when it comes to physical experiences like sex and sensations.
Honestly, it’s hard to critically look at these kinds of insights. Even writing this, I’m not sure what point I’m trying to make! Anyway, great video-thanks for sharing!
But even then, the body throws out unreliable signals... like, 'Am I nervous or excited?', or 'was that *just* a fart?'
The brain can interpret what the body reacts to. Sometimes the brain malfunctions and sometimes the body itself has faulty sensors. Your perception however on the "sacredness of the body" is valid and a good thing 😊
Not everyone has such a small ego as I do, you know?
nah mines even smaller
yea but you can't be more humble than I am :)
yes
@@cemcankaya9282 i agree you are better at it then i am
This was wonderful, Josie! Congrats for doing what I've never seen anyone do before, packing so much philosophical insight plus your evaluations into an hour.
Here's a revelation psychedelics gave me that allowed me to understand what happens after death: Unbroken experience. It's quite simple-logically, our perception of time is unique to the human experience, as evident by our experience of infinite time in null time before birth. From this we can logically conclude that the instant the human experience of time ceases, in that same instant does experience resume; as the only possible result of infinite nothing is an eventual finite something. Thus, it is impossible for there to truly be "nothing" after death.
How can you be truly nothing before birth then?
@@LLlapwouldn’t you agree “experience” only begins at conception?
@@JayM-d7b why?
@@LLlap asking why is assuming I believe in some kind of reincarnation process, which I do not. Using even completely sober astral projection techniques we can conclude there are other planes of existence outside our physical reality. You can hypothesize it, until you do it to conclude it for yourself. It only makes sense, without conception of a consciousness there is nonexistence
@@LLlap Great question! This question likely has the same answer as after death. Your experience was simply different, but is no longer accessible due to the context you exist in now. Memories are a human experience, which is why we don't have memories of our pre-human experiences and never will. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen!
Awesomely described and I have to say that I am more than amazed by the editing and animations in this video 🤗
I appreciate it, I worked hard as hell on them!
@@hypnagogist-art yeah i can see that, really great work 🤩 and i appriciate every detail 😊
It always feels like remembering and distinctly so…that’s always been so fascinating to me.
Oh and this is probably the best thing I’ve ever watched…wow thank you 🤍
Too bad I have McKenna Syndrome 🙃
oh hey there lol
Thank you so much! It means a lot
its ok @kaliedoscope3eyes, i have mckennasydrome too :(
Wooow... thats amazing!!! Great work 😮🫠🍄
This level of processing is very impressive
Great to see you back in action!
can’t hear chrono trigger music in one of the introductory cutscenes and not subscribe lol
i seriously love all the work that went into this. combined all of my faves: metaphysical conversations, old school games, and a quirky editing style + tone that doesn’t take itself too seriously in these kinds of topics (>ω･)☆
I’m glad everything stuck the landing with you! It really was a passion project combining all of our interests, I got in a lot of little Chrono Trigger and Earthbound/Mother 3 references lol, but there’s a whole mix, including a bunch of details and sfx that I feel people aren’t likely to catch, but *I* know
@@hypnagogist-art i will try to catch them too
@@hypnagogist-art Don't think you can sneak that Dave the Diver Title Theme past me. All the music choices were a vibe tbh.
Amazing work guys. Super original. I'm sure this was a massive labour of love so thank you for putting the effort in.
The fact that several of Josie’s “revelations” fit a materialist outlook is delightfully ironic. It catches in a contradiction people who consider psychedelic insights as authoritative communications of unerring entities or spirits outside our minds. By the way, this wide-ranging, stimulating, and beautiful video is special. It was worth the year-long wait.
Thank you so much! I very much appreciate this comment and I’m glad you thought it was worth the wait :)
This came at a perfect time!
I can see that I'm going to have to listen a few times to fully process and understand.
I love this production and set design. Please keep doing this. This format is very comforting and calming.
I loved this video! So well done!
discovered your channel a few weeks ago. really interesting and engaging content. thank you all for the effort!
I don't know if this counts as an epiphany, but one of the most interesting experiences I had was going down a dark tunnel with several beings of light who were the souls of great, long dead authors that I admired. I had conversations with them, and through this I think I realised that the books they wrote were in essence their having conversations with me across time, even long after their physical bodies were gone. It sounds kind of obvious when stated, but great works of literature and philosophy were written by other souls who simply wanted to communicate their experiences, and in some sense it's a living discussion we can maintain with the dead (although it's rather limited in being mostly one-sided, though this can be lessened by reading critically).
A-tier: this is an insight that promotes both analysis and creativity and therefore can be beneficial to your life. Emily Kins approved!
@@emilykins I like that the criteria are based on the actual impact the insight has on one's life rather than its perceived "depth". Anyway, this score means it's probably time to get a C- from josi lol
Thinking in raw concepts has been also a big revelation for me. Great and so intellectually satisfying video👌 Thank you!
This is so sick! Thank you!! 👽
My favorite thing about the unity experience is that it is available to people in all belief systems. The most hsrdlined materialist can experience unity and it works with any system of belief
Holy shit what an amazing well written, produced, edited, explained and visually stunning piece you have created. Ngl, i don't have time to finish this video now but this hard work needs to be acknowledged! Please keep em comin
Thank you ^_^
beautiful production
Thank you!
"The ego as a Cultural Filter & Context Shortcut" could simply be called "Cultural Subjetivity".
But I love the effort that went into naming this epiphanies, the video was fantastic!
I underwent a 3 day psychosis inducing trip that created a story that made everything parallel metaphors for eachother (ex: my life events being metaphors for the story of all of creation) in analyzing this story produced by my brain in a psychotic state I came to literally every single one of these insights at one time or another, including your idea of prototheism I didn’t have a name for it but only a crazy cult looking symbol that aimed to unify all religions and science by making everyone understand the core concepts we’re all the same 😭
WOW. This is super cool animations, style and concept. All of it. Good job ! I love it
8:20 if the existence of “something” is presupposed from sheer “nothing” out of sheer logical necessity, that means logic as a condition for existence itself existed before nothing
So paradoxes predate opposites?
Or maybe logic is born of the resolution of the universal dialectic 😌
I'd say that logic is definitely something supremely fundamental to this universe considering how unreasonably effective mathematics is at describing what goes on in it. Logic/math is self sustaining and infinite in its potential.
You’re thinking is linear. Time is not linear. It is cyclical.
@@TruthOverFacts1 cyclical time is just linear time that does a little backflip
I love the scenic hyperspace collection tv ad
Thank you! I worked hard on the vibe lol, Emily nailed the voiceover
Loving the production value!!!
"Human thought is a simulation framework" is pretty much how manifestation works and how the mechanisms of the astral realm work as well. Could be worth looking a bit more into that
Oh, does the "reality as simulation" meme derive from manifestation? I don't have much/any experience with either of those ideas but I've heard the terms, any insight is appreciated!
@@bluespruce786 Ive had astral projection experiences, real or not I cant say, but manifestation and what I think about instantly occurs, it feels like the subconscious is flipped outwards and you become the character inside it.
@@ebrahimparpia169 Thanks ebrahim! Does the manifestation occur in the astral or does it have impact in the physical world as well?
Oh yes this is the best content ever! Please do lots more!
Learning about computation/systems theory and universal computation is trippy because many of its ideas sound very reminiscent to these realisations, whilst at the same time adding and specifying things you would've never considered but have been shown mathematically to be true.
I think that the way our brains interpret reality relies on categorisation and splitting things up, as well as 2D visualisation - you can see this with the idea of discrete "whole numbers" or set theory. However, in reality, quantities are a continuous spectrum. So we get this idea of "opposites" that you mentioned. On the 2D side, it's astonishingly hard to think about 3D gravity and other complex interactions without being able to play with it in toy form, for example within a video game, and even then it's just a vibe and a knack. We do this because it's way more computationally efficient to extrapolate from simpler systems that follow a similar rule.
So instead of taking these insights wholesale, maybe we should try reversing these compromises by projecting them onto a category-less multidimensional system, and seeing how they match up.
The visuals in this look super cool!
I'm not even eight minutes into this and I love that little ad and the video's neon aesthetic. This reminds me of the angel-speaking reiki ASMRtist on TH-cam.
I'm digging this vibe
Your description of interdependent opposites made me think of my own yin and yang experience on psychedelics. The light/dark, life/death, construction/destruction. Then I see you relate your description to the yin and yang. Very pleasing to watch and I believe some very valid information others can benefit from.
Yeah that's legit. Its possible to perceive things but more nuanced to understand their relation to other things.
Those are all different though.
Dark is the absence of light.
Death is the end of life.
And destruction is only loosely related to construction.
Only light and dark are kind of opposite, but really physical things don't have opposites.
@@MrCmon113 Context not definitive fact. Pease move along. Thanks!
absolutely love the idea for the set and the moving floor is mesmerizing
Thanks! The visuals were a ton of hard work on this thing
The editing is phenomenal! Thank you for another amazing video ^-^
Thank you so much!
I found this really interesting. I LOVE the way your thoughts are projected. I feel like I can understand and relate to how you two see the concepts the way you projected your thoughts really resonated with me. I love to talk about these kinds of stuff with my best friend, and this is on the exact same wavelength. All the topics were really exciting, and I love to think about 'Human Thought is a Simulation Framework', and 'The Sentient Subconscious' was my favorite. I have some thoughts about 'Conceptual Thought vs Linguistic Thought', because, for me, I feel like words (sometimes) can be used to fully describe a conceptual thought, or at least work as a description to a path to that thought. This I feel I experience mainly because I study mathematics, so a lot of abstract concepts have comepletely lost contact with reality, and the way I understand the concepts is in some interconnection between conceptual and linguistic thoughts. On one hand, the concept are just built upon definitions, axioms, proofs, etc, which I see as linguistic thoughts, but then when you understand the meaning, the thought also becomes conceptual (for me it can feel like when learning a new subject, that a new sense suddenly appears which lets me 'see'). When solving a problem, you have (mostly) conceptual thoughts, but those thoughts are strictly bounded to the linguistic thoughts (definitions, theorems, etc), because it has to make sense. When learning, it's often the opposite, i.e. you don't have conceptual thought (feels like blindness), and instead go by the definitions, theorems, etc strictly to solve the problem, and it's not until the end of the problem, or days after everything clicks, that you 'see' as in conceptual understading.
Am going to share this with my friend right away!
this is EXACTLY my shit dear lord i'm so glad this exists
Really glad you like it! We knew we were making something that wouldn’t necessarily land with everyone, but for some people it’d really resonate, and that’s honestly where a lot my favorite art lives! I’m glad we finally got to put this weird project out there, thanks for enjoying!❤
Universal Self Design has some intense Just World Fallacy vibes. Agree with the ranking.
Yeah, I refuse to believe this one even if the psychedelics insisted it was true
It's the worst thing coming out of new agey / psychedelics people. Almost like original sin, they're trying to blame people for their own misfortune.
@@MrCmon113 Yup. No one wants to hear "God has a plan for you!" about their trauma and tragedy.
Thank you for doing what you do, genuinely
Emily's voiced ideas on "opposites" is very hermetic. Like and unlike are the same just different degrees.
Time doesn't exist as its own. The only reason tome exists is because matter exists and time is a place in space which is part of the material universe.
An understanding of quantum physics will better describe how everything is conscious. The noetic realization is correct, but in this state we may not have the knowledge to understand it is a pragmatic way. I would encourage looking into quantum physics in order to understand the very valuable noetic concept.
I gotta say, the visuals, music and humour is fantastic. Great production!
Great video, especially the animations are insanely nice.
I had an eternalism experience myself a couple of months ago, that whole section felt so immensely familiar, it was eerie :)
I hope for more videos to come in the future from you guys, and I will buy a tshirt or print, they are amazing, as well :D
I really loved the idea of mackena syndrome
I'm really glad you brought up the difference between conceptual and verbal thinking! I feel like our conceptual thinking is a function of an ability to volitionally modulate connections between various sense memories, a sort of synaesthesia, that allows for more rapid processing, and a compression of the space necessary to remember key aspects of reality - almost like a Fourier transform of memories linked together by the conceptual common thread
this is really cool guys no offence but when i saw the intro i thought the things you guys were going to say were not going to make sense so i clicked off then i thought i might aswell try and then your guys ideas actually make sense and are more logical than i expected and you have some pretty interesting facts cool video thanks
I've "realized", that on psychedelics, my brain is in a more spontaneous state. I sometimes feel like the visuals can be seen as routes that the neuron firing paths take in the brain in the most energy-efficient ways. You can literally see the second law of thermodynamics in action - stuff tends to spontaneously get more chaotic and/or complex, because it's the most likely thing to happen. Also, it seems that psychedelics block some sensory information from the brain, so it starts filling in all this missing data. This unaffirmed hypothesis is based on my own experiences and fading memories of perhaps reading that somewhere online. So plz trust me. Ps, thank you for doing what you do - I believe you make this world a little less crazy. If you do add some craziness, it's in a good way.
I see y’all used some footage from the game Everything. I had the pleasure of meeting the solo programmer for it last year and got to play the whole game through while talking to him. Also bought a T-Shirt from you guys! Keep up the good work!
As somebody who has some foundation in thermodynamics universal self-complexification sounds like another way of stating entropy. With the specific verbalization of I'm thinking of entropy being the progression towards less ordered states.
yeah, it’s like consciousness’s version of entropy. although i would add that it’s also a little more charged with intent in the sense that it’s like a giant simulation model, play-testing all possibilities that could concretize into outcomes
Isn't that the opposite though? Living beings, especially those which seem to be sentient are exceptionally ordered and create ordered systems. Just think of humans being capable of rational abstraction that leads to a certain manipulation of environment according to norms and patterns (which is basically the basis of all culture). Biological entities are typically negentropic. And mind you this doesn't entail (at least necessarily) any metaphysical implications such as vitalism or intelligent design.
Not really.
While entropy increases stuff can become more or less "complex". Only if you start in a very low entropy condition do you get "complexity" while stuff evens out. Like pouring milk into coffee, there's first milk and coffee separately, then swirls (compkexity) and then a homogenous brown liquid.
Soooo fun ugh I love this! Thank you for making this video and will def be keeping up with this amazing channel!
I can honestly say that I never thought a Tier List of Realizations would exist. I'm here for it
The flesh is just the autopilot, going through the motions while the real 'me' watches from somewhere else, wondering who’s steering this ship? #WhoAmIReally
Insight into the absence of agency, but without insight into nonduality. That's due to thoughts going unnoticed.
what is your genuine and unadulterated pure opinion on Doner Kebab and Shawarma? This is Very Important
This guy's asking the real questions
It tastes good and is probably up there as one of the greatest hang over foods of all time
@@josikinz hangover food is OK, but even better if you go to a Persian place and get koftesi kebab with yellow rice and sumac, very good
@@Vivec viveccc In the house!!!!
It's really interesting to hear the stories about how these insights either stuck and integrated or did not layer into your reality and ranked lower. It seems to suggest that the soil in which these seeds are sewn are either supportive for the seed of perceptual insight to sow and grow or not, possibly influenced by presuppositions we arrived at the insights with, the experiences of our ancestors, our culture etc.
Amazing video I always love your content Josie keep it up
19:00 I can't believe you define it as the ability to receive/respond to input! To me an entity X is conscious if it *feels* like something to be X -- not merely if it has some input/output
This is incredible! Amazing video idea and execution, so damn well made
Glad to see you guys back!
We plan on a lot more frequent, less absurdly difficult videos to make at this point again, this one was too much lol
I LOVE your animation style, it tickles my brain in a very nice way.
thanks, work done is perfect, huge you❤🌱
@@Leo-we7jo 💜
Holy heck Josie!! Really excited about what you have to say about Faith!!! ⛪
I have witnessed Jesus the Messiah and his light after taking a sacred cannabis sacrament 🥰🙏🧘♀️
I can only imagine what insights a prophetic mind like yours has been graced with. God bless ✝️
I thought that you were a child of the light 😢
Don't talk to me or my god ever again 😡
josie you are just awesome :) found your website disregard everthing i say like 10 years ago, and was very impressed by how amazing you were in describing those kind of states, as objective as possible, with pictures and everything. Did't know who you were, and now i can watch you in such a cool video talking about your own experiences and what you think about it now, i think it's amazing. Great video, thx a lot. Ah and i also like the zelda stuff :) majoras mask! It's just fun watching you do what you probably do best - talking about psychedelics :D keep going!
Thank you so much! I will definitely keep it up until I die.
It’s pretty rare to meet someone who remembers disregard these days haha, you’ve been following me for a long time!!! I started that site at 17 and am about to turn 32 omg
@@josikinz i actually used your three articles from that site (visual, cognitive, miscellaneous compononents) to teach my parents what i find so interesting about these substances - but they were not so impressed haha :DD. I was in my early 20s back then, now i'm 35. Funny to know now the writer of these articles was even younger than me at that time. Very impressing!
Thanks a lot for your reply, feels special for me 💜
Immediately bought a tshirt because this is just wonderful. I'm an ex-psychedelic user, and current Theravada Buddhist, and you really broke down a lot of these things that people confuse about psychedelic experiences and Buddhist insight in a really precise way. You see the same traps in both spaces - that some particular experience or intuitive insight will enlighten you or solve your problems. But these experiences all have causes and conditions, psychedelic chemicals being one of them, and real insight and liberation is to do with permanently ending specific causes of specific experiences, rather than creating new causes and conditions to get specific experiences and intuitive insights.
Do you follow the Abidhamma which suggests that there are four ultimate realities? Citta has expansive qualities and this is why we see "abiding awareness" in many of the Suttas. Even throughout the suttas do we see Nibanna described as "infinite formless consciousness". If it had to be reified, monistic idealism is apt in terms of conventional recognition.
I have never read a sutta that describes nibbana that way. Infinite consciousness is the 6th jhana, not nibbana, which is the ending of perception and form - of which infinite consciousness is a perception
@@lewiji “‘Where do water, earth, fire, & wind have no footing? Where are long & short, coarse & fine, fair & foul, name & form brought to an end?
“‘And the answer to that is:
“‘Consciousness without surface, without end, luminous all around: Here water, earth, fire, & wind have no footing. Here long & short coarse & fine fair & foul name & form are all brought to an end. With the cessation of (the activity of) consciousness each is here brought to an end.’ -DN 11
"'If, good sir, you have directly known the extent of what has not been experienced through the allness of the all, may it not turn out to be actually vain and void for you.'
"'Consciousness without surface,
endless, radiant all around,
has not been experienced through the earthness of earth ... the liquidity of liquid ... the fieriness of fire ... the windiness of wind ... the allness of the all.' -MN 49
We also see in the Atthakavagga wherein we see the verse:
"Truth is one without a second, there are no a multiplicity of truths in the world." In the eight discourses on the ultimate.
Buddhism is unique in that it is stressing immersion instead of polemical or scholarly understanding. However, if we had to reify the truth, I do not believe that considering ultimate reality as unconditioned awareness or the "primordial potential of the pure mind" as unskillful.
This is even further made apparent in the emptiness doctrine of Nagarjuna, and its influence on Uttara Miamsa(Advaita Vedanta).
Dhammpadda also stressing in the first verse: "Mind is the forerunner of all things".
When talking about consciousness here we are not talking about the awareness of phenomena, nor as a platonic object such that it is the "One" or the storehouse of divine qualities in an ontological sense, but the Ontic, awareness in itself as spirit or purified as such.
@@lewiji Think as well of the ninth Jhana, neither perception nor non-perception, and how this state is usually marked by an anagami or arahant, there is no further insight possible, Nibanna then must be around the corner from this. The only reason Nirdoha is not Nibanna is that it is conditioned with a descent back into the conventional. I do feel that non-duality or "non-dual" consciousness or awareness is a decent way of understanding this. As far as I understand things, Emptiness, Dependent Origination and Anatta are all the same reality, consciousness isn't self as we might see with the Brahamanical Atman but we can only reach subtler and subtler levels of awareness until the shore has been reached. If that makes any sense. I do not believe Nibanna is a third neutral monist substance unrelated to mind, because this begs epistemic questions into how it is we can have insight into it, its just the unfragmented, the unconditioned, boundless and empty mind.
I agree that that view is perhaps skillful, but I feel the point being made here is like you said, just around the corner. The elements - sense objects - being stilled, reveals consciousness without surface. That being revealed puts a halt to the activities of mind (citta) - the forerunner of all things (perceptual objects). But then, nibbana is going a step further - consciousness transcended into nothingness, and nothingness transcended into a feeling of perception nor non perception - this feeling too can be transcended to nibbana, which is the cessation of perception and feeling. Consciousness is long since abandoned since it arises in contact with an object or feeling. And this really is the misunderstanding that transcendent psychedelic experiences miss out on because of the coarseness and noise of those means. Without sharp insight into the way that consciousness of perception and feeling arises together with the perceived or felt, one falls short of crossing the threshold into nibbana. If one falls short but presumes that a perception of consciousness without surface is nibbana, there is still a way to go - in my understanding. It sounds like we may be talking about the same thing anyway, it's tricky to discuss over TH-cam comments! Be well.
I do think that the lack of full comprehension of panpsychism vs the lack of belief in free will is an interesting pair. Without the knowledge of how material objects are consciousness (not conscious, necessarily, but consciousness itself), it can be hard to rationally find a way for personal will to exist. But when understood, personal will follows naturally.
Terrific video folks, I loved every minute of it. Lemme try to convey one of my recurrent epiphanies despite not being a native English speaker: each of the smallest single "units" that constitute reality contains another infinite universe within it, as finiteness and infiniteness coexist. Our minds are set to a specific scale, and scale is what makes experiencing reality possible.
Im surprised there isnt anything here talking about the realization of the emptiness of self, how the self is a mere mental construct produced by the 5 agreggates, there is also missing the understanding of impermanence of all things, and the unsatisfactoriness of existence dukkha
This video is awesome!!! Love the good work keep it up please!
The streets were calling for this 🔥 (I am too scared to do any psychedelic, so I consume all your content instead)
hearing you talk about your depersonalization really resonated with me because i too experience intense depersonalization and derealization after my second lsd experience. it took one experience, and the lens in which i simultaneously view myself and reality and deeply shifted. this video really gave me some deep insight into it that i never really considered. i always thought that the dissociation served as a purpose to “teach me” that i didn’t love myself. i thought that the psychedelic knew that the only way to help me love myself was to break me down to nothing. therefore, i would have to completely rebuild myself from the ground up. and that experience has held somewhat true. i am completely different from the person i was prior to that experience. however, i now see that idea being one created by the ego as trying to personalize the experience. when in reality, i am actually experiencing on a deeper level that is more in touch with the truth. i am a complex neurochemical computer system. and i am experiencing myself as a system rather than a physical being, creating that disconnect with my physical form.
i too have had some of your epiphanies:
the most notable is mckenna syndrome. my spiritual beliefs are too complex to discuss in a youtube comment, but i do believe two things that contradict each other
a) we are spiritual beings having a human experience. our purpose as spiritual beings is to come into the human experience with the purpose of growing. the human experience is unique in the sense that it is the most difficult and challenging experience. we feel all emotions, and we must learn to navigate these to grow and become a higher version of our self. (this one i don’t believe entirely, but i do believe it to possibly hold truth.)
b) we are merely the universe experiencing itself. we are all comprised of energy, which is collective and compromises everything physical & non-physical. the “reality” we experience is an illusion that places existence and an ego into this energy, but it is never separate or individual to this collective energy. the purpose for this illusion is something i have not personally explored yet. (if it even has purpose.) this belief directly followed my lsd experience that initiated the dissociation. it caused me to become a nihilist, which later turned into hedonism. my hedonism now greater influences the first belief, although i do believe my ego is placing importance and significance on my experience.
lastly, i have experience what you call “the cultural filter as an ego shortcut.” i feel that in a sense, i have broken through that filter and am able to see why people present themselves certain ways, and how the ego will naturally try to view people through bias. i am able to see people in a completely unbiased nature, allowing myself to fully tap into empathy and understand individuals more quickly. it has also manifested as me becoming a very authentic and raw version of myself. i am a complete reflection of who i truly am. (i may have misinterpreted what you said in that section, but that’s how i internalized it.)
anyways love your work as always. it is deeply fascinating to me. it is almost inspiring me to embark on a psychedelic journey again. i haven’t touched psychedelics since that lsd experience, due to fear. but you have since helped me realize that a lot of fears i had about my experience were actually just fears of the awakenings it was causing within me. i hope dmt lands in my possession someday, and i am able to fully experience and understand all these concepts in their entirety.
also i wrote this comment off of three hours of sleep and at 5am the next day lol. so this probably isn’t everything i wanted to say or is exactly how i wanted to put it. but i hope it makes enough sense.
The insights that were most profound for me came one after the other in a single Chaga experience.
I was expecting some visuals and a chrysanthemum breakthrough experience.
It was my first time trying it, and my previous thoughts about it were:
- hyperdimensional non-Euclidean geometric morphologies
- "self-transforming machine elves"
- the cover of Tool - 10000 Days and other Alex Grey artworks
Beyond this, I had no expectations, but what actually happened was completely unexpected.
After the final puff, I began to feel like my visual field was rich in color, similar to the onset of psylocibin at around 1hr.
Just as geometries were starting to appear, I closed my eyes. In an instant, I was in a state of total absorption, or dhyana.
I heard two sentences in my mind that I am finding more and more meaningful with every passing day.
The first sentence was a command: STOP CREATING IMAGES.
It was not spoken in my own voice. Immediately, all the just emerging geometric patterns ceased.
The second sentence was factual: THERE IS NO CENTER.
This was the end of the experience. The absorption ceased immediately, and I was back in the room.
Minutes later, a friend of mine took his hit, and he went into a world of hyperdimensional geometry for 10 minutes.
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This entire experience showed me something about myself that I was completely unaware of.
Until this experience, I had been "creating images" constantly, in the sense that I was living within my own mind's projections, in a separate world that was real only insofar as I was able to personally experience it. I had created a personality around which my own cognition revolved. I was imagining future scenarios and worrying or getting excited or making decisions based on something that I was fabricating alone.
The resulting insight led me to understand that I had never been in contact with the real. I had always been, until that moment, an automaton, reacting to my own thoughts and emotions, and taking them for something real rather than what lies beyond them.
The second insight was regarding the decentralized nature of reality. "There is no center," in the sense that everything that is manifest is intermeshed at every level. Every point is every other point, yet each point has a perspective. If you try to centralize, you are restricting yourself. Centralization is what causes visuals to appear while on psychedelics. The goal of life, therefore, is to be as many perspectives as possible, thereby finding the state of constant lucidity, where you create no images whatsoever, and you are in abiding awareness.
I had had light body experiences, understandings of the All being One, but this was different. This was a specific key to a specific pathway. This was my awareness informing me of my next obstacle and how to overcome it.
Several months later, during a deep meditation after performing yoga asanas and chanting AUM, I meditated on a mantra that came to me spontaneously:
I AM AWARENESS OF AWARENESS
After repeating the mantra many times, suddenly, my awareness was completely decentralized on every level. Everything was lucid. My mind produced no thoughts unless engaged to. My emotional state was stable unless I up or down regulated it. I could see the surface of my mind, and there was absolutely nothing there. I could then touch the surface, and there a thought was. I would go to sleep, and it was a lucid dreamless sleep with restfulness I had never felt before. Mudras I had never known before were spontaneously shown to me by my own hands, and their ensuing energetic signatures could be felt on every level of the body.
This sequence of events changed my conception my life into just life. There is no "my life" anymore. I am the awareness that inhabits this body. I am not the body. I am the awareness that that inhabits the mind. I am not the mind. This mind and body are a gift. Life is not about what I want to be. Life is about being totally. Life is not about having my questions answered. Life is about dissolving all questions, and simply knowing by being awareness itself.
The brain can process information very efficiently, but it needs defragmentation. Mantras are powerful defragmentation devices. The repetition brings the mind into a unitary state, which is a restful, integrative state of mind, where the brain can compute at maximum efficiency. This is decentralization, and this is the meaning of "there is no center". There is nothing to search for or final question to be answered. There is only awareness of awareness.
This has been the end of my journey. There is nothing for me to find anymore, and when I search for myself, it is already gone. The ensuing bliss is unparalleled. Awareness does absolutely all that is needed, nothing more, nothing less. There is nothing for me or you to do but to come to this final insight. Once it is there, the abiding, recursive awareness of awareness of awareness of awareness of awareness... There live love, peace, joy, and ecstasy.
One more point. Awareness of awareness is not meta-cognition.
Meta-cognition is awareness of your cognitive processes, which is something one can do whether they are experientially aware of being awareness of awareness or not.
Awareness is not a cognitive process. Awareness is its own phenomenon.
Awareness makes consciousness possible. They are not synonymous. Awareness is the witness. Consciousness is the process. You are not the process. You are the awareness that is aware of being aware of the process. You are the witness of the witness, not the witness of the witnessing.
We have also misunderstood "free will". A will that is free is not tied to a person's decisions. A will that is free is just happening as it is. So you are correct in that we have no "free will" in the way it has been defined, simply because we don't understand the word free. Free means decentralized. When will is decentralized, it is not yours anymore. Will belongs to awareness of awareness, and that will is the same in all. It is childlike, because it is not yet biased by experience. It is innocent, free of a separate desire for a separate will. A great book to read that explains the linguistic and experiential distinction between having free will and being free of a separate will, Erich Fromm's 'To Have or To Be?' is a wonderful book on the distinction between the having mode and being mode.
Very cool, it's a good thing to have all these insights compressed into one video, also the visual style is fascinating.
I have taken Modafinil in the morning and it sometimes makes me feel like shit, which is the thing today sadly, so I might
return back to this post and do EDITS.
Here are some of my notes:
1) The Illusory Nature of the Separate Self
Probably nothing here from my end, it's just a paradigm where everything is understood as interconnected,
which is by its very nature is, meaning so are we.
2) Interdependent Opposites Catalyzed Existence
This explanation has allowed me to understand the statement that everything are but layers and layers of
abstractions of fundamental dualities.
My take --> Fundamentally, we as humans can never understand anything as "itself" (aka get access to the noumena),
everything that we ever get to know is but a model of the thing in itself in our minds, and even the
concept of "opposites" is but such a construct of our minds to make sense of the world around us.
3) Pantheism
My take --> Fully dependent on the definition of "God" as well as our own fundamental mental limitations, aka
where our maximum potential cognition is able to reach, to explain this point a little bit more, imagine an
ant, a dog and a human. These three creatures all have vastly different "cognitive potential" with humans
clearly having the most complex.
But personally I think that when trying to grasp concepts such as "God," we are hitting our fundamental limit
and are just circulating within our various definitions and systems, in which these definitions were established.
4) Eternalism
My take --> Here I like to ask the question "What does it mean for something to exist?" What you present
is basically a different paradigm of understanding spacetime, which might be more accurate relative to our
current knowledge.
But we may always go one step beyond the paradigm and ask what its fundamental assumptions (such as "existing") mean etc.
5) Panpsychism
My take --> I would think a little differently, what was presented is basically a panpsychic specturm, which
"measures" the amount of consciousness any separate object displays, therefore I would not think in a way that some
things are or are not conscious (binary way of thinking) but rather think in a way that some things have like
0.0001% consciousness etc.
Note that the very first insight is "The Illusory Nature of the Separate Self" implying that everything is
interconnected, therefore for Panpsychism to make sense, we have to basically "step down" from that paradigm and
arbitrarily "disconnect" things in our mind again (into animals, humans, trees, you name it...) and then test each such
arbitrarily created category for signs of consciousness.
6) Human Thought is a Simulation Framework
My take --> If we accept that there are hypothetical beings with much higher cognitive capabilities than humans (similar when comparing
an ant and a human) and such beings would essentially "simulate" humans, we have already reached a corner of our mind that I would not
take as seriously, for this is a highly antropocentric hypothesis and if we are a creation of something with
much higher cognitive capabilities, then our attempts at understanding something like that are essentially
rendered meaningless and beyond our capabilities.
7) Hard Determinism
My take --> Cause and Effect are again categories of human mind for understanding the world and there might be rules/laws we are
not aware of yet.
However, when thinking within cause and effect and free will, I personally think that Free Will is real but extremely limited and
dependent on many factors, and that most humans act more or less on an automat, only using free will to a very limited extent (but more
free will might be unlocked when lowering our reactivity and growing vertically in the mind), Ego Development Theory from Cook-Greuters partially supports this position.
Therefore, I say that free is a valid way of thinking about the world (aka "exists") but is an unlockable spectrum rather than a binary thing.
8) Sentient Mind Create Meaning
My take --> I agree fully here, we might however go into the territory where we speculate that we only project meaning derived from some
World of Ideas etc. There is always a place how to question something that already seems established.
9) The Sentient Subconscious
My take --> I also agree here, back in my past when my way of thinking was already completely useless, I felt as if something within me has slowly attempted to
take control over me and that thing is now me as a baseline but there is someone else awaiting to do the same etc.
I think that when humans develop the ability to take a perspective of second, third, fourth, fifth... Etc person perspective (more in EDT I have mentioned above), they are
essentially just making a previously subconscious part of their brain conscious.
10) Universal Self Design
My take --> Even if this is true, I would not judge whether it is true based on how I feel about it at the moment, for until everything that
is there to happen happens, it is essentially impossible for us to really tell whether we would have made any adjustments for we do not know
the full bigger picture yet.
And again, if everything is connected, then the hypothetical original designer is essentially the only one who can determine whether all was designed well or not.
11) Synchronicity as a Function of Exponential Self Complexification
No real take here, should listen to more times to grasp it fully.
11) Conceptual Thought vs Linguistic Thougt
Here i also agree fully, and also think that people think in concepts more than they realize, the examples
you gave are nice ones.
12) The Ego as a Cultural Filter
Also agree
13) Hardwired Spirituality Function
My take --> This is something that kicks in when people start reaching higher levels of cognition/Ego Level for they start to realize the
arbitrary "borders" of the Ego and their interconnectedness with everything that is.
Can't wait!!!
Only about 5 minutes in -- and I love the discussion and agree with so many points!
I think so many of these concepts have indeed changed my life, but one of the greater realizations is that in some way -- if I am eternal/god/oneness then I'm supposed to be EXACTLY who and what I am right now and who kind of cares?
It's very humbling and beautiful to remember, and then, I just get on with life as it is.
Heaven and all the other cosmic stuff is my nature, so it can always wait while I live this life kinda vibe.
My own specific insight -- I think that nothing is really how it seems. I am one of the crazies that believes that perhaps there are different rulesets for different experiences -- that the universe does not need to obey some kind of stricture of how we currently perceive it at all.
(The metaphor I'll use for the rest of this lil mini-rant is that different video games/simulations can garner vastly different "base codes" that run them. Why couldn't different universes/space time bubbles?)
Because, I refuse to think that, say, people who are in great suffering experience that suffering eternally.
I think it is logically coherent to say that perhaps the physical time-space of that "bubble" of reality does indeed live on eternally, but in the same way that a video game does.
Resident Evil is a memory, for instance, of a game. It is stored on your computer.
When you want to go in and experience the horror of it, you can do so at your will. But when you get too scared or are having your face eaten by someone -- you can simply walk away from the computer and turn the game off.
A larger "you" always exists in this context that is willingly experiencing things.
But then again, this could just be a human-made metaphor made up with my human-centric concepts or some kind of elaborate cope against suffering/death.
I also think, against the NPC argument, that this concept would allow for what is known as ""free will".
Yes, the simulation you inhabit is "determined". Your body, your responses, and the ways you interact are probably very deterministic -- decided by the code of the game.
And yet, is that YOU in the most significant sense? Are are "YOU" along for the ride? Or can a player agent from "above" really influence decisions at least in a small way.
Video games can have branching pathways that allow you to decide how the game goes -- resulting sometimes in hundreds or thousands of different endings. They're deterministic in the sense that the game world can't become radically different and all the endings are pre-programmed -- but there is "choice" in some real sense.
Could life also be similar? That your player character is largely determined by "stats" (genes), "setting/gameworld" (enviroment), and "player physics/game engine" (physics/mathematics) but the way the game plays out is actually up to a higher intelligence inhabiting it?
The sense of decision making, as I type here, is sort of significant to that experience.
I have experienced forms of disassociation, and I don't want to diminish it (with large downsides to mental health at times for me), but that experience too merely seems to produce different results.
Disassociation almost felt as though I was allowing the simulation to "play through" without my own interaction, but when I eventually decided to re-engage the optionality felt like it was real.
Being really "committed" to the character or attached to the ego structure brings with it certain special events and feelings that I couldn't have felt when I was more disassociated.
Edit #2: Further into the video -- you note that you dislike "universal design" for the reason that you perceive of no apparent reason for suffering.
And yet, while uncomfortable, I think this notion isn't F-tier for me.
It seems to me that if you are not actually your player character, suffering isn't really as real as we make it out to be and that pre-defined suffering might make sense to an eternal entity of some type.
This, of course, leads to a lot of ethical and moral dilemmas. Why would suffering exist at all? Why would things like mass genocide ever occur to pre-planned souls? How would that be helpful? Aren't we gaslighting people when we claim their suffering is justified under God or something?
I agree with these counterpoints in that they are important but the more I've thought on it, the more I see space for the possibility that this "pre-planning" occurs (mostly through listening to people who have undergone death or near-death experiences).
In response to these arguments I'd ask a hypothetical -- what makes trauma really traumatic?
Sure, the actual event is horrifying within itself, but, to me, the real apparent reason trauma is so damaging is that it takes a long time to recover from it -- It leaves a mark over a period of time which interferes with our lives, sometimes for decades at a time.
The worst trauma to the body needs constant physical care and attention and equally our emotional and behavioral side can be just as pernicious.
Yet, to an eternal being -- this is light work. I don't mean "light worker" new age stuff, but rather, its true nature KNOWS that it can survive it because it is eternal so it isn't concerned with what it sees as a temporary state.
So it is always actually careful to only invite or "play a character" who has certain events or deficits that it can handle at that time.
I.e. Let's say a soul/consciousness wants to learn about humility -- so they take on the role of someone who isn't the most attractive person or someone who has a disability and they learn a lifetime of lessons about how to confront such disadvantages.
Would this not be useful or interesting to a being which is quite literally all powerful and knows for a fact that it is immortal/infinite/one with God?
Again, just food for thought. I have no real solid leanings one way or the other, but it's interesting to ponder!
I've been subscribed to you for so long, why doesn't youtube ever show your videos on my homepage? Well it did show this one, after not showing any videos you put out. I'm not surprised I'm subscribed ^^ Amazon video!
I notice a lot of TH-camrs saying that their new videos often don’t show up in their subscribers feed, so it seems to be a site wide issue. From what I’ve gathered, the only solution is to turn on notifications via the bell button, but apparently even that isn’t 100% consistent
I genuinely love everything about this! What a cool, engaging and insightful video 🥳❤💖
Super interesting. Amazing work on the video.
Non-opposite poles. Vibration between poles varies depending on their relation to one another. States are indeterminate until observed. That is why the one mind seeks to explore previously unseen areas which is why each life is unique and special and important. Is it it moral for us to view, and thereby determine. The mind/heart construct is partially a processor but equally, and perhaps more significantly, it is a receiver. The type of perception we use influences the nature of determination 55:00 . Our bodies are combinations of various forms of perception. Each form of perception is a sub-ego in the one-mind. The sub egos compete with one another for the chance to view and thereby determine. 57:55 Haha, love it!♥ Is it possible for us to choose our perceptional preferences? If so do we in fact have agency in creating the universe? Or at least in determining those parts of the universe that have been perceived. Are there certain types of perception that seek to snuff out the others? Great video think! Thanks for posting it up♥
Hi Guys, I've been following you for a while now and am very interested and excited to watch your videos as they are very informative and in-depth in knowledge. In this video I was very excited and proud that you mentioned some of the best minds in the world of psychedelics ie, Terrence McKenna, Timothy Leary, Alan Watts etc. The mention of the Tao was also very fitting. I am an unknown self taught practitioner of metaphysics, psychedelics, taoism, esoteric knowledge and the alike. Most of this video made perfect sense but I would disagree on some of the tier selections made towards the end of the video, but thats my personal outlook and criticism. I would like to share a few of my experiences of psychedelics i've had in the past and one a couple of days ago actually. I'll begin with the most recent one. Before I start i'd like to say I'd like to say I have the perfect way of portraying my thoughts but they are in mind and putting it into human language just takes away so much from it, I'm sure you understand what this means. BTW i truly believe as Thoth the Atlantean mentioned in his Emerald tablets that the highest knowledge is unutterable which aligns with why I mentioned this. (btw ive read the tablets over 300 times and implore you to read it so that you can mention its profundity in your videos if you wish). Anyways, after cleaning myself and emptying my mind of its junk I meditated and went into the experience with the intention of just praying to God to open his kingdom (doors) to me and let me experience the blissful eternal light. Because I am that I am and I know myself to be of good nature I knew I wouldnt be turned back so almost instantly I was presented with a light of infinite radiance and out of it was beaming lights of color and love shaping itself to communicate with me and it showed me that I (we) are all part of this light and will return to it in the end so theres nothing to fear whatsoever. The light was so healing, comforting and warm that I cant imagine it to be nothing else but God's love. And as the DMT started to wear off I asked mentally one thing which was a question of whats going to happen to the state of the world as its in chaos? I was at the time being pulled away coming back into mundane physical form but I could see the events of the world in little thumbnail type images in the stream of light and I understand that it was all a state of mind and that we can choose whatever reality we want to live in. And this comes back to the teaching of Alan Watts and Neville Goddard where we just need to create the reality we want to be in in our minds eye and applying faith and consistent thought until it become reality. This is what i extracted from this trip.
My previous one to this was very similar so i wont go into that, but one before that was very different whereas back a few years ago when I did a dmt trip I was very hungry for knowledge, so in my trip I encountered alien like creatures looking down on me while i was on a hospital bed and they were examining me to fix my insecurities that i hoped would be dealt with and rectified, so they ever so politely asked for my permission to take my soul away to fix it and bring it back, after this weird experience I was shown what looked exactly like a disco ball and each facet of the ball was a subject of knowledge, knowing that my time was limited and dmt was slowly wearing off I chose to learn about linguistics, secrets of levitation and something else I cant remember, but they denied me the knowledge because they said to me, 'you dont even have the basics of what your asking and the advanced knowledge we have for you wont be understood'. I fully respected and understood that and I left the experience with a satisfied feeling. Tarkan from Australia
I hope this all made sense. Keep it up guys btw you guys are doing a great job, love it.
I'm currently writing a detailed report about an incredible epiphany i had the other day. It's too long for TH-cam comments but if there's another way to privately share it, let me know. The video was incredible, feel like I need to watch it again to understand more than 30% of it.
You asked at the end for people to share their psychedelic-catalysed noetic insights, so here's my stab at it, but do understand that there's more than what I'm willing to sit down and type:
Spirituality impulse and proto-theism are definitely two of them. I encountered those on literally my first mushroom trip (which came 10 years after my first trip of any sort, which was salvia). Maybe my second, because my first and second were 24 hours apart and which things happened in which trip is a little fuzzy. For simplicity, let's just call them one trip, because they were both so profound and so close together in time. My ego and another conscious agent were in telepathic, conceptual dialogue with each other. I would ask questions, and get instant answers, because all that was communicated was concepts instead of words. Each answer I recieved felt like a piece of the puzzle fitting into the bigger picture, and each one gave me this "Duh, of COURSE!" sort of feeling. As this went on, the pace of exchange would increase as I found it less and less difficult to process each "answer." Fairly quickly, the conceptual telepathic dialogue became so rapid, and so intense, that I didn't even have to question or think anymore. Everything just flooded into me until I felt the whole picture was being presented to me at once. I was it, it was me, yadda yadda. Ofc, I could never capture it all in words, but I found myself in absolute awe. Came down with a case of McKenna syndrome, except I was self aware enough to hold back and not be a raving loon about it.
A lot of the stuff you ranked in lower tiers, if not all of it, came up along the way as well. Personally, I would rank certain things higher, but I can appreciate why you would rank them lower. A lot of these lower tier things are things which a person can reasonably contemplate and conclude without psychedelics. Psychedelics just move them from being a mere intellectual rationale/concept, to something you "know in your bones." I would say these all came to me either along the way to prototheism, or as offshoots of it, all during the same trip. Really, I got all my biggest insights on that first one or two mushroom trips, and everything else I've gone through under the influence have either been reminders, or superfluous fluff. I felt temporarily hyper-intelligent, and came down pretty much yammering things I later found echoed in the rhetoric of Alan Watts, Terence McKenna, Ram Dass, and Buddhist scripture. I was not aware of these people or scriptures until AFTER the fact, but I HAD taken an interest in philosophy and psychology prior to "that one trip." These things only confirmed what I'd found afterward, which reinforced my McKenna syndrome.
The notion that we're all just "god in drag," is something that got "realised," during a later trip, however, where I found myself witnessing, and at one with, what seemed to be "the source of all potentiality." That was arrived at by the mushrooms initially mocking me, followed by dragging me through multiple "past lives," during which I kept telling the mushrooms "No, really, do what you want to me. I don't care." Eventually, I guess they just kind of gave up on trying to "break," me, and decided to let me in on "the secret," so to speak. The "source of all potentiality," was in the shape of a torus, and was represented by an electric blue hurricane of... idk, energy or whatever? But it felt like pure power. Again, I was it and it was me, yadda yadda. I tried to break away from it, or break it in half or something, but whenever I got close to doing that, it felt like I was going to delete existence, which my still lingering (however seemingly shrunken) ego DID NOT WANT TO HAPPEN. So I'd chicken out and decide "No no, let's not try that. It's too risky." When I started to come down, I briefly made the mistake of thinking I was god for a few seconds, then realised how r3t4rd3d that is, and ended up drawing the conclusion that "If I'm god, so is everyone else," because I as an individual, am NOT special. At least, no more special than everyone else. Ergo, we're all "god in drag."
Solipsism is another one I came across. "We're all one, maaaan." Which means, we're all one thing, so this whole experience is really just "me," at "play," with "myself." Ofc, I don't mean me as an individual ego. I just mean the "me," that we all are. I.e. that which we frequently refer to as "god," "source," the "higher self," etc. This made individual ego me sad for a while, because it made me, us, feel lonely and tragic as hell. If there's no other, then wtf are we here for, etc?
I delved into all manner of spiritual modalities, and found each one to be lacking something. I spent a couple years doing this, and everything just felt so cultish. There are so many valid contradicitions from all different perspectives, and I eventually decided "fuck it, just be the guy you were born into. That's probably what you were always supposed to do anyway."
So here I am, basically having come full circle into being I guess a slightly more sophisticated, aware versioin of my former self. I don't bother with spiritual ego nonsense anymore because it's a waste of time, and time is irrelevant anyway. I haven't tripped properly in over two years, and although I'd like to delve back in again, I don't feel much of a need to, other than to try and get my mental health back to the peak I'd achieved when I WAS fancy-dancy psychedelic spiritual ego me. A reset would be nice at this point, but at the same time, it's not necessary, because I'm already being who I was meant to be. I always was. I also don't want to risk another hyper-slap, so if and when I do trip again, I have to be certain I "need," it, in terms of just... mental wellbeing, I guess? Giving myself a kick up the ass to stop being an alcoholic and start taking on more physically and mentally healthy habits again? Basically things to satisfy myself as an ego, which again, is pointless, because I'm gonna die some day, and return to being the ocean or whatever. I guess this ego, like any, just wants to have a nice time while it exists.
AAAA I CAN T WAIT AND IT SHOULD TIME PERFECTLY WITH THE OTHER STREAM I WANTED TO CATCH TODAYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
One experience I've had was what I like to call The Last Trip. This might be a thing but it's just what I called it the last time I tripped. It was the last time because I was instructed, by what felt like an entity, never to trip again. They stated that I had learned all I needed to through such experiences and any further knowledge would need to come from any other source. Anyway, amazing video, thanks so much for posting : o )
That happened to me!
I tripped a year or so after that experience, however, in a completely different environment (in the middle of the Rocky Mountains of Colorado) where I uncovered the most important of revelations for me personally (my identity as a woman)
This is very fascinating i love the work
8:30 There was a zen master who once said that time moves from present to past. What he means is that the future only exists as imagining, and that now is what is happening. Memory itself is quite a trip. Food for thought