When you bolt the winch to the mounting plate the bolt heads will be sticking down below the plate so unless you go all the way through the trailer deck with the same bolts (which isn't the way the mount is designed to work - the bracket is there to distribute the load to whatever you're attaching the winch to) the plate won't sit flush on a flat surface anyway. Bolt the winch and fairlead to the bracket as it's designed then just put spacers under the plate when you bolt it down to the trailer deck.
I follow your explanation but I'm not sure I agree with the logic. If I'm attaching this to a trailer I'm not going to bolt the winch to the plate and have bolt heads resting between the plate and the trailer deck. I'm going to get longer bolts and through bolt everything to the underside of the trailer. I understand and agree that my application to a trailer deck is not the most prevalent application for this product but I don't think it is uncommon either. I should also reemphasize that the product itself works great and I'm perfectly happy with it. The purpose of doing this type of video is to A let other potential buyers know of this issue in case they have a similar application and B if the video gets enough attention then perhaps HF might see it and make a very minor change to address the issue.
It's a roller fairlead. And the the bracket is offset is so it aligns with the spool. Designed to hang over a bumper, not sit on a flat surface. I use one of these to haul a storage platform up and down in my garage.
Agreed but all it took to make this work properly to sit flat was drilling out the holes a little, a step that though not difficult, wouldn't be necessary if HF had considered using the winch on a trailer deck which is not uncommon.
The winch is not made for your application, it is for mounting on the vehicle and rollers centered on reel take up area. Think it out completely before claiming the manufacturer wrong.
Perhaps but what is the purpose of the plate and the mounting holes on it and why not go one step further and make sure it could work on a trailer application which although not as likely, is not uncommon.
Off-road winches are typically mounted on bumpers. If you want to mount it on a flatbed, like a tow truck, you're going to use a different solution than an off-roader would.
Designed for bumper use. The roller fairlead needs to be where it was meant to go on the mounting plate. It needs to be in the center of the winch drum...not higher, not lower. Make a spacer plate and use good hardware.
I agree it is designed for bumper use but using it on a trailer as I am isn't an uncommon use either. Your suggestions are valid though just opening up the two holes a little did the trick for me.
You can fab it up to work the way you want. It's a custom job you are using it for anyway. The problem I have is how long you were dragging the video out before you got to the point.
Sorry if you felt I was dragging things out but I don't like the modern style of cutting every every moment between words out to try to speed things up. I realize that is a style today's generation is used to but I do these videos for my own enjoyment and hopefully to help others that find it useful.
Use it was intended and it will work fine
Using a winch on a trailer is not an uncommon use.
When you bolt the winch to the mounting plate the bolt heads will be sticking down below the plate so unless you go all the way through the trailer deck with the same bolts (which isn't the way the mount is designed to work - the bracket is there to distribute the load to whatever you're attaching the winch to) the plate won't sit flush on a flat surface anyway. Bolt the winch and fairlead to the bracket as it's designed then just put spacers under the plate when you bolt it down to the trailer deck.
I follow your explanation but I'm not sure I agree with the logic. If I'm attaching this to a trailer I'm not going to bolt the winch to the plate and have bolt heads resting between the plate and the trailer deck. I'm going to get longer bolts and through bolt everything to the underside of the trailer.
I understand and agree that my application to a trailer deck is not the most prevalent application for this product but I don't think it is uncommon either. I should also reemphasize that the product itself works great and I'm perfectly happy with it.
The purpose of doing this type of video is to A let other potential buyers know of this issue in case they have a similar application and B if the video gets enough attention then perhaps HF might see it and make a very minor change to address the issue.
It's a roller fairlead. And the the bracket is offset is so it aligns with the spool. Designed to hang over a bumper, not sit on a flat surface. I use one of these to haul a storage platform up and down in my garage.
Agreed but all it took to make this work properly to sit flat was drilling out the holes a little, a step that though not difficult, wouldn't be necessary if HF had considered using the winch on a trailer deck which is not uncommon.
I don't think it's the mounting plates fault as I think it's the application you're using it for.
I agree my application is not the primary application but placing a winch on a trailer is not uncommon either.
@@OddballORV That normally requires some sort of custom modification.
The winch is not made for your application, it is for mounting on the vehicle and rollers centered on reel take up area. Think it out completely before claiming the manufacturer wrong.
Perhaps but what is the purpose of the plate and the mounting holes on it and why not go one step further and make sure it could work on a trailer application which although not as likely, is not uncommon.
I think most people are mounting in on actual ATV where it hangs off the front bumper
Off-road winches are typically mounted on bumpers. If you want to mount it on a flatbed, like a tow truck, you're going to use a different solution than an off-roader would.
Yes, I don't disagree with you on that.
It wouldn’t mount flat anyways because the bolt heads for the winch.
In my application the plate sits on the deck of the trailer and the winch sits on the plate. I then through bolted it all together.
Designed for bumper use. The roller fairlead needs to be where it was meant to go on the mounting plate. It needs to be in the center of the winch drum...not higher, not lower. Make a spacer plate and use good hardware.
I agree it is designed for bumper use but using it on a trailer as I am isn't an uncommon use either. Your suggestions are valid though just opening up the two holes a little did the trick for me.
It's made to mount in a bumper not on a trailer.
Maybe so but mounting it on a trailer is not an uncommon use for it either.
You can fab it up to work the way you want. It's a custom job you are using it for anyway. The problem I have is how long you were dragging the video out before you got to the point.
Sorry if you felt I was dragging things out but I don't like the modern style of cutting every every moment between words out to try to speed things up. I realize that is a style today's generation is used to but I do these videos for my own enjoyment and hopefully to help others that find it useful.
It's a roller fairlead. The other type is a is a Hawse type.
Thanks for the clarification.
The winch bolts on the other side of the plate😂🎉
Not sure how that would work correctly.