I was born and raised in the American Deep South and Canadian accents are pretty cool to me for some reason. An example is the pronunciation difference (American South vs Canadian) of the words “about” or “out.” It’s weird I know but at least it’s a positive comment I guess. Love this channel.
Thanks for the video, it is very helpful. When I removed the housing for the seal some of the oil pump gasket came with it. Can I use RTV there or do I need to now do my oil pump gasket too?
I know this is an old thread but thought I would ask. Does the cummins manual not state to install the crank seal housing first, then the seal with the alignment tool, then tap to appropriate depth with the install tool, then bolt down? I haven't seen anyone do it like that manual states. Or am I reading the manual incorrectly? Thanks
My pan gasket ripped when I took of the crank seal plate. Pull the whole pan and replace gasket or use sealant in plat of the pan gasket under the crank plate?
thanks for the video it was extremely helpful for me to do this myself, I just completed my replacement of the rear main on my 2006 5.9, it had backed out of the housing about 1/4 inch (similar to whats shown at 5:15) and it was the metal o-ring. The replacement was covered in rubber with about 4-5 ribs on it (which i had to get from a dealer, the aftermarket one was metal too). Could the seal back out due to a crank case vent clog/bad filter etc? the 06/07 breathers are integrated in the valve cover unfortunately and I haven't open'ed er up to look. Should i bother? It was a long and tedious job and I don't want to do it again. Spent more than half of that time just cleaning everything up.
Not an expert, but I would think something would be major wrong for too much crankcase pressure to push out the seal. I think I’d cold start the engine and see if you can detect some fumes from the breather tube (to determine the breather is not obstructed). Maybe loosen the oil cap when the engine is running fully warm and leave the cap over the hole. If fumes lift the cap, then you may have something like broken rings causing very high blow by and crankcase pressure.
@@alanack67 This is my biggest hindrance. Night and day difference, I assume everything has been on my back in the driveway. Talk about a workout and inconvenient.
@@uritardid8529 I did mine in my shitty gravel driveway.. i bought a thick sheet of plywood to put the trans jack... wasnt too bad.... my stick shift truck i did in Garage... the auto wasnt too bad in the dirt because theres no input splines to line up
@@alanack67 I did a unframe rebuild with mine parked on the curb, my driveway has a bad incline. I used and old center rug my wife threw out. Huge lifesaver, still hard torquing down main caps while checking clearances. I may tackle this sometime.
The steel ring tool is for centering the back plate that holds that seal. Its not an installation tool for the seal. Theres a separate tool for setting the depth mahle GS33491
cgirl111 Agreed, and slow down on the snappy panning...keep the camera on the part you’re talking about for a bit longer than .5 seconds. I know he put a lot of effort into making this video, and it’s appreciated, but that initial section under the truck was difficult to watch.
Nice setup that you can put the seal into the plate then install onto the engine instead of trying to install the seal right onto the back of the block. How many liters of oil do those 5.9 engines take?
Having a panic attack because I tapped my seal in with the plate in the truck and 12 o’clock is just a little further in than 6 o’clock. Only have trans bolted but nothing else and don’t know if I need to take it out now and do it over
By the hour. I completed a 9000 hour apprenticeship with 6 months of post secondary schooling at another heavy equipment shop. A couple years after I got my ticket, I quit and started a construction company because I wanted to build my own house and shop. I swung a hammer in the summer and turned wrenches in the winter, mostly for the same customers. I bought my service truck the same year I built our house. I started getting to busy though so I dropped the construction. I'm busy enough in the shop now that I sold the service truck. That wasn't a tough decision as most calls were after hours and took me away from my family. I stuck with mechanics because I find it more challenging mentally and less challenging physically.
DEBOSS GARAGE gotcha yeah I've been wrench now for like 3 years and I'm trying to start my own business I don't know how to start maybe service truck would be best way to start ? What do u think
This is the best diesel channel in my opinion.
You DeBoss! Make it look so easy. I have a 24V, love your vids, thanks Dave
I was born and raised in the American Deep South and Canadian accents are pretty cool to me for some reason. An example is the pronunciation difference (American South vs Canadian) of the words “about” or “out.” It’s weird I know but at least it’s a positive comment I guess. Love this channel.
Thanks for the video, it is very helpful. When I removed the housing for the seal some of the oil pump gasket came with it. Can I use RTV there or do I need to now do my oil pump gasket too?
This video was so quick and straightforward!
My god at the rust. Glad I don't have to deal with that R&R'ing down here in the southern states.
I know this is an old thread but thought I would ask. Does the cummins manual not state to install the crank seal housing first, then the seal with the alignment tool, then tap to appropriate depth with the install tool, then bolt down? I haven't seen anyone do it like that manual states. Or am I reading the manual incorrectly? Thanks
Damm i wish i could find a good mechanic in my area. Your a Beast 👌🏻
Great video with great info thank you again you’re the best
Awesome video, im gonna 8nclude that the 24 valves with the VP44 doesn't have the seal in the flywheel housing, theyre the same as the 12v
My pan gasket ripped when I took of the crank seal plate. Pull the whole pan and replace gasket or use sealant in plat of the pan gasket under the crank plate?
thanks for the video it was extremely helpful for me to do this myself, I just completed my replacement of the rear main on my 2006 5.9, it had backed out of the housing about 1/4 inch (similar to whats shown at 5:15) and it was the metal o-ring. The replacement was covered in rubber with about 4-5 ribs on it (which i had to get from a dealer, the aftermarket one was metal too). Could the seal back out due to a crank case vent clog/bad filter etc? the 06/07 breathers are integrated in the valve cover unfortunately and I haven't open'ed er up to look. Should i bother? It was a long and tedious job and I don't want to do it again. Spent more than half of that time just cleaning everything up.
Not an expert, but I would think something would be major wrong for too much crankcase pressure to push out the seal. I think I’d cold start the engine and see if you can detect some fumes from the breather tube (to determine the breather is not obstructed). Maybe loosen the oil cap when the engine is running fully warm and leave the cap over the hole. If fumes lift the cap, then you may have something like broken rings causing very high blow by and crankcase pressure.
Yes and Thats kinda what I thought watching this
2 years later and the new seal is holding just fine.
Hey man I curious to know how much it would cost to get this done
Cummins sys to install seal dry and that applying oil on seal during assembly will result in leaking.
What year is this truck? I have worked on 12 valve and early 24 valve cummins and I dont recall ever seeing that square oil ring.
leaking oil? nah, just marking it's territory! there you go
Looks like a huge pain in the ass. But I'd assume once you hear the shop quote for that repair, you'd be more motivated to do it yourself.
Not bad in a garage with a nice tranmission jack, On your back on a dirt driveway could suck a lot
@@alanack67 This is my biggest hindrance. Night and day difference, I assume everything has been on my back in the driveway. Talk about a workout and inconvenient.
@@uritardid8529 I did mine in my shitty gravel driveway.. i bought a thick sheet of plywood to put the trans jack... wasnt too bad.... my stick shift truck i did in Garage... the auto wasnt too bad in the dirt because theres no input splines to line up
@@alanack67 I did a unframe rebuild with mine parked on the curb, my driveway has a bad incline. I used and old center rug my wife threw out. Huge lifesaver, still hard torquing down main caps while checking clearances. I may tackle this sometime.
@@alanack67 I have a nv4500 in my 99.
What about the oil pan gasket? Did you use RTV?
The steel ring tool is for centering the back plate that holds that seal. Its not an installation tool for the seal. Theres a separate tool for setting the depth mahle GS33491
Is that a Cummins brand seal?
All I can find the Cummins that comes with a wear sleeve for the crank shaft
Thanks man I just saw a couple of days ago that mine was leaking!!!
Ariel Elguezabal did you have it repaired at a shop? I'm curious as to how much this is gonna cost me..
Jack Sandoz I live just north of Houston and I got a quote today for $500 out the door. That’s seems like a bargain after watching this video. Hahaha
Two words for the vid - laser pointer.
cgirl111
Agreed, and slow down on the snappy panning...keep the camera on the part you’re talking about for a bit longer than .5 seconds. I know he put a lot of effort into making this video, and it’s appreciated, but that initial section under the truck was difficult to watch.
Hey do a automatic to manual swap. im thinking of doing it in a 06 5.9 ram
Excellent video, thank you !
Always make sure you can get the fill plug out first or your going to have a bad day
Are all Cummins have issues with crankshaft seal leaking and leaving grooves on the camshaft?
Do you wash the underside of the vehicles before you work if so how?
Nice setup that you can put the seal into the plate then install onto the engine instead of trying to install the seal right onto the back of the block. How many liters of oil do those 5.9 engines take?
billy greenhorn 12 quarts
Billy greenhorn a 2000 model 24 valve only takes 10 quarts with filter.
Cost for something like this? Labor and parts?
Thanks
Is this the same for the 12 valve model?
Yep
Having a panic attack because I tapped my seal in with the plate in the truck and 12 o’clock is just a little further in than 6 o’clock. Only have trans bolted but nothing else and don’t know if I need to take it out now and do it over
If it were me, I’d see if it leaks.
Bob’s your uncle!
Do you charge by the hour in your shop? Did you start off with your own shop or did you start with in the road stuff
By the hour. I completed a 9000 hour apprenticeship with 6 months of post secondary schooling at another heavy equipment shop. A couple years after I got my ticket, I quit and started a construction company because I wanted to build my own house and shop. I swung a hammer in the summer and turned wrenches in the winter, mostly for the same customers. I bought my service truck the same year I built our house. I started getting to busy though so I dropped the construction. I'm busy enough in the shop now that I sold the service truck. That wasn't a tough decision as most calls were after hours and took me away from my family. I stuck with mechanics because I find it more challenging mentally and less challenging physically.
DEBOSS GARAGE gotcha yeah I've been wrench now for like 3 years and I'm trying to start my own business I don't know how to start maybe service truck would be best way to start ? What do u think
Whats the name for that lil seal
all that good canadian rust
Where you located and do you work on Cummins in millville New Jersey if so let me know
WOW rust damage!
What is the torque specs??
THIS. dude I'm looking everywhere
Torque specs guy 😪😪 soooo close!
Id rather just add oil every now and then lol.
Until it dumps when your on the highway. This can go from bad to worse quickly.
Dumb question... do you have to drain the engine oil before removing the rear main seal holder?
Cledus Johnson clueless even my missus knows you don’t need to lol too funny
Getting this done now. 1600 bucks
Wow, I don't charge enough. Its about a 6 hour job and $80 in parts
@@DEBOSSGARAGE getting done as we speak. I would have loved to save $$$
1600? They better do the oil pan gasket to for that price it should be no more the 1200
Why is every video so useless no one actually talks about torque specs or book sequences
Torque on oil panis 20 Ft Lbs. Cannot find any torque spec on RMS housing. I did mine, used red Loc-Tight, and about valve cover bolt tight.