I’m 57 and have been a high production climber for 34 years I’m amazed with what they have now I wish it was around years ago I was a tauntline hitch guy most of career when guys use to show up with all these bells and whistles And shiny gadgets we’d laugh them out , I use to tell them by the time you get all set up I’m tied off up the tree and trimmed half of the tree already, but as I’ve matured I love all the bells and whistles now. Be safe.....
I am old school climber myself and it took me a while to trust all these mechanical systems, but once you do you appreciate how far being an arborist has come. I still trust my own knots 💯 but all these new bells and whistles make life easier. Work smarter, not harder.
this is the climbing system I have been looking for.. with the most minimal use of hardware other than the most necessary pulleys and carabiners besides the ropes.. tqvm admin...
you could use the exact same hardware- minus the little red cord!- and tie different friction hitches (valdotain, michoacan, catalyst, etc.) which most people find to be more rappel-friendly of course a second carabiner makes things much easier...
Wtf, why the hell didn't i know this sooner, i had a micropulley knocking about in the bottom of my kit for 5 years, all this time i been sweating it out with just a prussik!! Nice one, life changer
I see other people saying a lot of others wont know what your talking about and only some will. I understood completely and honestly if anyone didnt understand any of this video, especially the terminology, you have no reason to even watch and or comment on it.
Just attached a pulley to my set-up, so exited to see if it works the way I hoped! If it does, huge thanks for making prussik-climbing much much easier!
If you're using a Blake's hitch instead of a prusik, you can achieve the same effect by making the tail of your Blake's hitch long enough to tie a second Blake's hitch on the other rope a few inches up.
What you're describing is a closed DRT system while the one he is showing is an 'open' system. If you've just got one tie point then nbd but advancing your tie in or moving it a lot is easier with the open system so you don't have to retie Blake's
I loved the idea of a double Blake’s and tried it in my garage on 24 strand 11mm rope (3 wraps top, 2 wraps bottom). It started out smooth, but the primary hitch gets pulled from both ends and binds up for me.
great I Just build m'y self à similar system but installed à microscender insted of rope wrench for climbing .after the hitch is fullyloaded the microscender is 3 inches from the hitch work great. you have be en a great help for me over the Last two year ,thanks Luc from Québec
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Great video, thank you. To the people that don’t understand what is going on in this video perhaps go and watch some more basic videos on how climbing systems work, then come back?
great idea man, because not all my ropes have a tight eye on the end so I use the blakes hitch/clove setup sometimes in place of the hitch climber, this seems simple and clean, thanks for the vid
i'm sorry man I think Dan here at climbing arborist can do a better job than I can, explaining the slack tender for the blakes hitch. (I don't do vids), he has an awesome website, check it out.
Good video, despite what all these others say, I followed and understood your video perfectly. Not everyone likes using all the mechanical friction devices, I personally still rather a good ol fashion rope friction hitch and you just showed a great way to ease its operation. As for the how/why it works well ppl it's Simple mechanical logic... not all possess it. Great video
I think I'll try this before buying a Rope Runner Pro or Akimbo. I wanted the Akimbo but it has no parts support and my brand new rope is not on it's approved list. This system you have seems to work fabulous!
Great vid, ignore the people who say they don't get it. If you comment here and don't understand basic terms, learn them or you don't have any business climbing.
great system I use it also with a two to one makes life a lot easier wen climbing a 40+ foot climb to the first limb on overhang bit of rock climbing mixed with tree work
2 Questions / video ideas: 1) What's the best setup for branch walking? I pruned out the insides of a 70ft oak but I need to get the branch tips like 50ft up to prevent leaves on the roof, squirrels jumping to roof, and just get the dead branches off the tree to let it breathe. When I currently branch walk I can go out easy and have 90% weight harness, but then to go back I either have to swing or risk standing more upright and putting more weight on the branches. I think I weigh too much and need some mechanical advantage. 2) what's the best anchor to leave in a tree? I want to climb a few different trees on my property regularly. Currently I have 1" climbing webbing doubled up on 2 seperate leaders per tree tied into a basic equalized climbing anchor with stainless steel shackles. But what would you recommend? In the 110ft poplars I put up chain inside of an old hose sheath. I'd like something that does minimal tree damage and has maximum safe working life.
The rope in this particular video is 11.5mm Tachyon and the prussik cord is 10mm beeline blue. Arborist climbing ropes generally range from 11mm to 13mm and hitch cord usually ranges from 8mm - 10mm, it is more about trailing which type of hitch cord works best with the rope you have.
I always thought that the double fisherman's knot wasn't suppose to be directly next to the carabiner or the prusik knot. is it safe to have the fisherman's right there on the carabiner?
Couldn't say for sure but after looking at what I can see of his knot and trying to replicate it I think it's just a variation on a double fisherman's loop where you tie your double fisherman's knots around two legs of rope/cord as opposed to just one if that makes any sense...it's hard to describe but put one end of your cord through the carabiner like you were going to tie a buntline hitch but don't tie a knot and just leave a foot or so long tail and then take the other end of your cord and tie a double fisherman's knot around the tail you left plus the opposite side of the tail and then after you've tied that first double fisherman's knot around those two legs of rope use the end of the tail that you put through the carabiner to tie a double fisherman's knot around the two legs of rope on the side of the first knot opposite the carabiner...if you figure out what I mean proceed to use at your own risk because I have never actually used this particular variation of a double fisherman's loop in a life and death situation but just playing around with a piece of rope and a carabiner while sitting on a couch it seems to me like it should work like a traditional double fisherman's loop would.
When you're ascending that way, what do you do if you get half way up and the rope gets trapped above, so that it can't slide easily over the limb that supports it? With nobody below to help, I'm guessing you'd draw up the tail of the rope, tie it to the free end, and rappel down on the two tail ends? Or maybe you continue ascending on one rope, losing the 2:1 advantage, and every 5 feet or so you'd shorten the tail end so you fall less far if it suddenly lets go? Or, is this method usually used with a pulley above so the rope can't get caught?
The rope wrench is a device to allow you to climbing on a single, stationary rope with a friction hitch. The rope wrench adds additional friction, taking some of the weight away from the hitch which prevents it from locking up and potentially melting. Check out the SRT series on our website for more info
I'm really interested to know what the '3 green ring' setup is called.. And what kind of harness is best to make that 3 ring setup work. (Yours seems to have good thigh hooks and back support, could I please check the model to help me learn about what works.. Enthusiastic! Many thanks, .. Subscribed :)
I think that's the tree motion harness by tufelburger. Its changed a little now for a newer version with optional 2 bridges and also the ability to use 2 other attachments located at either side of bridge for your positioning lanyard so you can hang of it like a second anchor system. Very useful. Still got a lot of elastic on the harness which I have always found annoying but the positives easily out weighs the negatives. A comfortable supportive harness giving you a lot of options.
+banshee511 Yes that is a hand spliced 24 strand rope. Some kernmantle ropes are hand spliceable, it just depends. I'd guess all of them can be sewn-spliced. Its always cheaper too.
Very nice video. I have a Petzyl pulley that I want to use with a 2nd climbing line since my other one is equipped with a DMM Hitchclimber Eccentric. 2 ?, Is your Hitchcord a Blakes & is this a closed or open system?
Are you using a friction saver for an anchor or is your rope just over a branch? I’m a super newbie to climbing so I’m just learning all the different techniques.
@Climbing Arborist I have a question that I haven’t gotten answered and it’s bugging me. I’m a beginner as well. Would you be able to use this exact system with a Blake’s hitch?? I haven’t seen anyone use it but I would think it works the same and would save myself from having to push the hitch up after every thrust! Would appreciate your input thanks!
Wow you answered my question at the very end of the video never mind lmao. Just never seen anyone use this method and I’m getting some new gear this month.
this is not a backup as in rock climbing, where you progress on the rock face with your arms and legs and the rope is there to catch you in case you fall. Arborists use friction hitches all the time because they progress on the rope itself or tend their slack as they climb up branches. Our climbing systems are almost always in tension, there should never be a high fall factor while working in a tree; that's also why our ropes are fairly static compared to rock climbing ropes, work positioning needs to be stable and we don't rely on the elasticity of a rope to absorb the shock of a fall.
Do you recommend having your prussic length about a foot above your head under tension as seen in your video above? I'm new to climbing and have been attempting to set this up in my system but find sometimes I can get a full reach as I would without the pulley and that once I start moving laterally throughout the tree its quite hand to get that hand handed tending or a neat pull. Is this due to my prussic length or should I try a VT? What are you climbing with at the moment?
+Joe Dunwell V.T. you run off a carabiner on an eye to eye type of prusik, the pulley, and the hitch both connect to the carabiner, which connects to your saddle.
@@gabrielcheneyholub4322 I think I got the answer elsewhere: "it does not have to be a pulley since the roller has no effect, it just occurs it is hard to find any alternative piece of metal and the pulley is already in the bag and works well".
Great video. I am a newbie. I’ve been watching a lot of climbing videos and I have a question. If you used a second Prussia knot below your micro pulley with a loop of webbing attached to your foot, wouldn’t the climber raise up and lower the working line. Therefore eliminate the body thrust. If that would work, would that easier then the thrust method. Of course, the climber would have to raise the lower Prusik.
You can pull that off with a friction hitch. Though, like you said, you'd have to advance the second hitch. Better yet, you could hook two foot loops (webbing) to the bottom of an ascender, or to a Blake's hitch on your main line. This allows you to use both legs to ascend, and adjust both hitches at the waist as opposed to the foot/shin area.
Is this purely for the first climb into the canopy? I like the idea and will try it but how does it work when you are swapping ends as you move around? Thanks.
it doesn't...and he doesn't cover that. i guess you have to take loose the accessory carabiner so you can get the moving end free of your main climbing rope. the trouble with that is, you can see where he has the spliced in mounted to the left on his carabiner which is attached to his harness ring, so HOW'S IT EASY TO GET THAT OFF TO THROW IT TO NEW POSITION IN NEW CROTCH IN TREE? he doesn't say. perhaps the best way would be to attach a second carabineer at his spliced end of main climbing rope, and then he could take it loose easily there. but i don't see why he doesn't cover all this in the video. you would think he had never climbed with this system he is demonstrating and discovered the inherent problems in the way he is presenting it. one way or another, to move from one crotch in the tree to another, you are going to have to take 2 different attachments loose in this setup in order to get a free line to throw around into the crotch.
@@andrieshenkens4129 No, after researching for about an hour I found it. It is called a sliding double fisherman's knot. They show how to make it here. vimeo.com/124363236
I made the mistake of not leaving a few inches between the pulley and prussik which resulted in a jammed system. Once I spotted this error I was up tree trunks like Batman walking up building walls. 😂
I been using a 7mm prusik cord rated for 2500 lbf in my lanyard to adjust the length with a friction knot I wight 215lbs. I will like to continue using this for the climbing hitch. Do you think that this is good enoug to use it in this system?
Isa Abd Rahman Sosa-Dominguez lil confused in your question, but I think I follow. Yes your 7mm prusik cord should be ok to use as your split tail /climbing setup friction knot on 7/16 - 1/2” climb line
It is ok for the line that makes the friction knot to be of smaller diameter than the climbing rope, but not the other way around. You do knot want a larger diameter knot rope than the climb rope. Hope this makes sense.
Is that prusik loop also Dan’s foot locking prusik? That’s got my wheels turning….can I quickly reach a low remote canopy anchor with secure footlock. Smooth transition to MRS rope over lanyard advance?
What size rope should I use for my weight bearing Prusik? I've seen guys use really small diameter rope but I can't find any that has sufficient weight rating.
The components are: Prusik loop, micro pulley and accessory cordage to attach pulley with, really simple. You can by them from any arborist equipment supplier.
jadekayak01 I use a mix of both but crossed some rock tech over to tree work and works good for me up a 40ft in 2 mins only issue with using a butterfly knot wen advancing to the next fix point gotta pull 40 ft of rope up but personally speed overall is 5× faster than using srt alone all ways work but personally I prefer full on logging drop a tree and have done with it pruning is my side line
I’m 57 and have been a high production climber for 34 years I’m amazed with what they have now I wish it was around years ago
I was a tauntline hitch guy most of career when guys use to show up with all these bells and whistles And shiny gadgets we’d laugh them out , I use to tell them by the time you get all set up I’m tied off up the tree and trimmed half of the tree already, but as I’ve matured I love all the bells and whistles now. Be safe.....
I am old school climber myself and it took me a while to trust all these mechanical systems, but once you do you appreciate how far being an arborist has come. I still trust my own knots 💯 but all these new bells and whistles make life easier. Work smarter, not harder.
this is the climbing system I have been looking for.. with the most minimal use of hardware other than the most necessary pulleys and carabiners besides the ropes..
tqvm admin...
you could use the exact same hardware- minus the little red cord!- and tie different friction hitches (valdotain, michoacan, catalyst, etc.) which most people find to be more rappel-friendly
of course a second carabiner makes things much easier...
If you use the blakes hitch you don't even need the pulley. Just tie another blakes hitch onto the climbers side rope using the tail of the rope.
Wtf, why the hell didn't i know this sooner, i had a micropulley knocking about in the bottom of my kit for 5 years, all this time i been sweating it out with just a prussik!! Nice one, life changer
Same here, for what it's worth!
Great idea... you're a genius! This is now a standard part of my climbing system.
I see other people saying a lot of others wont know what your talking about and only some will. I understood completely and honestly if anyone didnt understand any of this video, especially the terminology, you have no reason to even watch and or comment on it.
Just attached a pulley to my set-up, so exited to see if it works the way I hoped! If it does, huge thanks for making prussik-climbing much much easier!
Good luck! If you set it right it will definitely work
Did it work for you?
@@A.E.Lanman777 He dead 😔
If you're using a Blake's hitch instead of a prusik, you can achieve the same effect by making the tail of your Blake's hitch long enough to tie a second Blake's hitch on the other rope a few inches up.
A much better solution really
What you're describing is a closed DRT system while the one he is showing is an 'open' system. If you've just got one tie point then nbd but advancing your tie in or moving it a lot is easier with the open system so you don't have to retie Blake's
Blake's has always been my go to. Never tried the double though... hmm
I loved the idea of a double Blake’s and tried it in my garage on 24 strand 11mm rope (3 wraps top, 2 wraps bottom). It started out smooth, but the primary hitch gets pulled from both ends and binds up for me.
Awesome work as usual. Our apprentice just started climbing on English Prussik I'll be sure to pass this along. Cheers!
Great way to work a looped system without hundreds of dollars of gear, show them some old school techniques, Thanks for sharing!
Yes yes old school techniques while wearing a $800 saddle🙄🙄🙄
Thanks for this video have been using this method for 4 months, love it
That’s great to hear bro, be safe 🤙
For me this technique is amazing for climbing palm trees. Thanks
Climbing 12 years and always done it the basic way. My micro pulley arrived today going to test it out on some pines tomorrow 👍
great I Just build m'y self à similar system but installed à microscender insted of rope wrench for climbing .after the hitch is fullyloaded the microscender is 3 inches from the hitch work great. you have be en a great help for me over the Last two year ,thanks
Luc from Québec
+Luc Fournier Will the microcender help you descend?
I've never thought of doing it this way with a friction hitch.
Thanks for sharing
Will definitely be giving this a try
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I just tried it. And now thank you for making my life less complicated!! 👌👌
Great video, thank you. To the people that don’t understand what is going on in this video perhaps go and watch some more basic videos on how climbing systems work, then come back?
Gotta say thanks for this one mate. I use it whenever Im not using the zigzag. stroke of genius!
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make this. It's always interesting to see different prussik set ups.
❤ Minnesota bound.... Finally in my neck of the woods. 😊
great example of making and ascend I've added a pantin for a little extra push
great idea man, because not all my ropes have a tight eye on the end so I use the blakes hitch/clove setup sometimes in place of the hitch climber, this seems simple and clean, thanks for the vid
Jimmy Payton can you explain this set up or give me a video to reference please
i'm sorry man I think Dan here at climbing arborist can do a better job than I can, explaining the slack tender for the blakes hitch. (I don't do vids), he has an awesome website, check it out.
Good video, despite what all these others say, I followed and understood your video perfectly. Not everyone likes using all the mechanical friction devices, I personally still rather a good ol fashion rope friction hitch and you just showed a great way to ease its operation. As for the how/why it works well ppl it's Simple mechanical logic... not all possess it. Great video
About 30 years ago there was a device called the Kenyon prussik lift that essentially did the same thing .
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Genius!
Thanks treebro!
I think I'll try this before buying a Rope Runner Pro or Akimbo.
I wanted the Akimbo but it has no parts support and my brand new rope is not on it's approved list.
This system you have seems to work fabulous!
Great vid, ignore the people who say they don't get it. If you comment here and don't understand basic terms, learn them or you don't have any business climbing.
This is my favorite system.
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Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Just the carabiner below the prusik or blake's hitch without the pulley works also.
Really? That's interesting, thanks.
We'll try on the trees at home
I was doing this today without a micro pulley and was getting super tired. thank you so much for this video.
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great system I use it also with a two to one makes life a lot easier wen climbing a 40+ foot climb to the first limb on overhang bit of rock climbing mixed with tree work
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I used a prussik knot for about 15 years before switching to the valdotain knot. I sure would of liked to know about this climbing system back then !
Arborist Nation I don’t think you could tend a VT with a micro pulley in this same fashion.. .
You're my hero
Thank you ☺️
Just helping spread knowledge
2 Questions / video ideas:
1) What's the best setup for branch walking? I pruned out the insides of a 70ft oak but I need to get the branch tips like 50ft up to prevent leaves on the roof, squirrels jumping to roof, and just get the dead branches off the tree to let it breathe. When I currently branch walk I can go out easy and have 90% weight harness, but then to go back I either have to swing or risk standing more upright and putting more weight on the branches. I think I weigh too much and need some mechanical advantage.
2) what's the best anchor to leave in a tree? I want to climb a few different trees on my property regularly. Currently I have 1" climbing webbing doubled up on 2 seperate leaders per tree tied into a basic equalized climbing anchor with stainless steel shackles. But what would you recommend? In the 110ft poplars I put up chain inside of an old hose sheath. I'd like something that does minimal tree damage and has maximum safe working life.
Thanks for this awesome video
Thank you very much. I love this video.
thanks bro, awesome video
Glad you liked it
@@ClimbingArborist visit my channel bro, hope you glad and like it too
Nice job.
Great idea, gonna try it soon.
Love the videos mate, keep them coming :-)
Newbie question: What are the diameters of the ropes being used here?
The rope in this particular video is 11.5mm Tachyon and the prussik cord is 10mm beeline blue. Arborist climbing ropes generally range from 11mm to 13mm and hitch cord usually ranges from 8mm - 10mm, it is more about trailing which type of hitch cord works best with the rope you have.
This is great, Im switching to this
I always thought that the double fisherman's knot wasn't suppose to be directly next to the carabiner or the prusik knot. is it safe to have the fisherman's right there on the carabiner?
It isn't a double fisherman's knot. It is a sliding double fisherman's knot. They show how to make it here. vimeo.com/124363236
Which knot you are using on your prusik down on your carabiner
Couldn't say for sure but after looking at what I can see of his knot and trying to replicate it I think it's just a variation on a double fisherman's loop where you tie your double fisherman's knots around two legs of rope/cord as opposed to just one if that makes any sense...it's hard to describe but put one end of your cord through the carabiner like you were going to tie a buntline hitch but don't tie a knot and just leave a foot or so long tail and then take the other end of your cord and tie a double fisherman's knot around the tail you left plus the opposite side of the tail and then after you've tied that first double fisherman's knot around those two legs of rope use the end of the tail that you put through the carabiner to tie a double fisherman's knot around the two legs of rope on the side of the first knot opposite the carabiner...if you figure out what I mean proceed to use at your own risk because I have never actually used this particular variation of a double fisherman's loop in a life and death situation but just playing around with a piece of rope and a carabiner while sitting on a couch it seems to me like it should work like a traditional double fisherman's loop would.
from zooming in, this is my best guess too.
Thanks I’m going to try it out
Awesome video
When you're ascending that way, what do you do if you get half way up and the rope gets trapped above, so that it can't slide easily over the limb that supports it? With nobody below to help, I'm guessing you'd draw up the tail of the rope, tie it to the free end, and rappel down on the two tail ends? Or maybe you continue ascending on one rope, losing the 2:1 advantage, and every 5 feet or so you'd shorten the tail end so you fall less far if it suddenly lets go? Or, is this method usually used with a pulley above so the rope can't get caught?
interesting knot on the prusik, hold the carabiner
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Can you please make one video showing how to descend!? Please!
Literally just put downward pressure with your fingers on your knot and you’ll start to descend
great vid, nice tip going to try it as soon as I get micro pulley and I going to save this video!!
more close up of the knot's please
I have a question I want to Know What the ropewrench does ?I assume it drags when going down but does not lock up ,saves wear on it ches thanks
The rope wrench is a device to allow you to climbing on a single, stationary rope with a friction hitch. The rope wrench adds additional friction, taking some of the weight away from the hitch which prevents it from locking up and potentially melting. Check out the SRT series on our website for more info
Humble man got to like that
congratulations!!
where can you buy the accessory cord in the uk? And when you buy a length of accessory cord do you have to tie it into a loop yourself?
jim jim you can buy accessory cord from honey brothers, tree stuff places like that. I know from honey brothers they sell it already joined
very good video
That red string that isnt rated for life supports
Whats it called?
It's just accessory cord that mate. Doesn't need to be life line stuff as if the pulley fails it isn't what's keeping you in the air.
It could be shoe string and a zip tie holding the pulley on and it would still be safe. The big prusik is holding all the weight.
What's the name of your harness and where can you get them from great vid by the way 👍
Looks like he's climbing on a Treemotion harness. Very popular in the industry. Should be available at any arborist retailer.
Can you use this on a zigzag
Thanks
I'm really interested to know what the '3 green ring' setup is called.. And what kind of harness is best to make that 3 ring setup work. (Yours seems to have good thigh hooks and back support, could I please check the model to help me learn about what works.. Enthusiastic! Many thanks, .. Subscribed :)
I think that's the tree motion harness by tufelburger. Its changed a little now for a newer version with optional 2 bridges and also the ability to use 2 other attachments located at either side of bridge for your positioning lanyard so you can hang of it like a second anchor system. Very useful. Still got a lot of elastic on the harness which I have always found annoying but the positives easily out weighs the negatives. A comfortable supportive harness giving you a lot of options.
how is the green rope attached to the carabiner so nicely without a knot? can kernmantle rope be reliably eye spliced? Please forgive my ignorance.
+banshee511 Yes that is a hand spliced 24 strand rope. Some kernmantle ropes are hand spliceable, it just depends. I'd guess all of them can be sewn-spliced. Its always cheaper too.
What brand is the pulley?
CMI, but any small pulley can be used
@@ClimbingArborist thank you. I just dig the funky purple color.
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Para que??
Is that a double fisherman's knot where the prusik meets the carabiner?
No, it is a sliding double fisherman's knot. vimeo.com/124363236
As the pulley isn't life support, anybody think it's okay to use chinesium ?
Yes
Very nice video. I have a Petzyl pulley that I want to use with a 2nd climbing line since my other one is equipped with a DMM Hitchclimber Eccentric. 2 ?, Is your Hitchcord a Blakes & is this a closed or open system?
Where do you get the accessory cord have you got a link
It looks like he's just using a bit of throwline.
I reckon you could use some paracord
What do you do with the micro pulley when your changing anchor points and have to take off the spliced eye side to throw around another branch?
Just take it off.
You are awesome, do you have a list of ascent / descent parts you recommend on one of your videos?
Is the green rope sliding on the tree ?
Through a friction saver
3:09 why did it blur out here? Edit?
Are you using a friction saver for an anchor or is your rope just over a branch? I’m a super newbie to climbing so I’m just learning all the different techniques.
Friction saver. It saver your arms, joints, makes friction predictable and also saves the cambium and your ropes from excessive wear.
@Climbing Arborist I have a question that I haven’t gotten answered and it’s bugging me. I’m a beginner as well. Would you be able to use this exact system with a Blake’s hitch?? I haven’t seen anyone use it but I would think it works the same and would save myself from having to push the hitch up after every thrust! Would appreciate your input thanks!
Wow you answered my question at the very end of the video never mind lmao. Just never seen anyone use this method and I’m getting some new gear this month.
What do people using this setup for a backup? It is well known friction hitches will melt if there is slip, so then what?
this is not a backup as in rock climbing, where you progress on the rock face with your arms and legs and the rope is there to catch you in case you fall. Arborists use friction hitches all the time because they progress on the rope itself or tend their slack as they climb up branches. Our climbing systems are almost always in tension, there should never be a high fall factor while working in a tree; that's also why our ropes are fairly static compared to rock climbing ropes, work positioning needs to be stable and we don't rely on the elasticity of a rope to absorb the shock of a fall.
Also most Hitch cords are made with a technora (aramide) sheath that is extremely heat resistant. Best ones have a mix of materials.
can't see any details, sorry. Great video, I just can't see what you are doing.
just keep watching and put on the close captions. sometimes I have to watch 3-4 times
Then follow what he says
How long is your hitch in this video?
Do you recommend having your prussic length about a foot above your head under tension as seen in your video above?
I'm new to climbing and have been attempting to set this up in my system but find sometimes I can get a full reach as I would without the pulley and that once I start moving laterally throughout the tree its quite hand to get that hand handed tending or a neat pull.
Is this due to my prussic length or should I try a VT?
What are you climbing with at the moment?
Try out the hitch climber system. It’s cheap and can work just as good as the expensive mechanical prusiks if you get it right
Very cool gonna try this , would you say im better off with a fixed pulley or a swinging pulley? Thanks
Hi there,
Can this method be used with a VT hitch?
Many thanks,
J
+Joe Dunwell V.T. you run off a carabiner on an eye to eye type of prusik, the pulley, and the hitch both connect to the carabiner, which connects to your saddle.
whenever i do the hip thrust without gloves on it rips my hands. I'm using the Yale bluemoon. Is there something you are doing differently?
He's got calloused hands. Right of passage lmao. Your hands should toughen up and stop ripping after a while. Could also be type of rope material
Rope diameter as well. Smaller diameter is more likely to dig into your hands as much. Larger diameter is generally known for less fatigue on hands.
There's no shame in using gloves, saves you from insect bites, thorns, saw, etc.
It happens on some ropes dont worry you are not doing anything wrong
I hope someone will answer this. Is that a single rope? It appears to be. Where might I see more of that technique?
No thats not srt its mrt, just running an. English prusick for the hitch
Still not sure why using a pulley, it doest`n seem the wheel is loaded in these examples, would be just the carabiner sufficient to push the hitch?
reduces friction, which reduces gear wear and climber effort
@@gabrielcheneyholub4322 I think I got the answer elsewhere: "it does not have to be a pulley since the roller has no effect, it just occurs it is hard to find any alternative piece of metal and the pulley is already in the bag and works well".
Absolutely works with an accessory carabiner as well, pulleys just add less resistance.
Can't believe this is seven years old
What length prussik rope is that?
Great video. I am a newbie. I’ve been watching a lot of climbing videos and I have a question. If you used a second Prussia knot below your micro pulley with a loop of webbing attached to your foot, wouldn’t the climber raise up and lower the working line. Therefore eliminate the body thrust. If that would work, would that easier then the thrust method. Of course, the climber would have to raise the lower Prusik.
CT foot ascender
You can pull that off with a friction hitch. Though, like you said, you'd have to advance the second hitch. Better yet, you could hook two foot loops (webbing) to the bottom of an ascender, or to a Blake's hitch on your main line. This allows you to use both legs to ascend, and adjust both hitches at the waist as opposed to the foot/shin area.
What would you recommend if I wanted to back this up to make it redundant?
Is this purely for the first climb into the canopy? I like the idea and will try it but how does it work when you are swapping ends as you move around? Thanks.
it doesn't...and he doesn't cover that. i guess you have to take loose the accessory carabiner so you can get the moving end free of your main climbing rope. the trouble with that is, you can see where he has the spliced in mounted to the left on his carabiner which is attached to his harness ring, so HOW'S IT EASY TO GET THAT OFF TO THROW IT TO NEW POSITION IN NEW CROTCH IN TREE? he doesn't say. perhaps the best way would be to attach a second carabineer at his spliced end of main climbing rope, and then he could take it loose easily there. but i don't see why he doesn't cover all this in the video. you would think he had never climbed with this system he is demonstrating and discovered the inherent problems in the way he is presenting it. one way or another, to move from one crotch in the tree to another, you are going to have to take 2 different attachments loose in this setup in order to get a free line to throw around into the crotch.
is that a mesist wood?
Josh Vanderhut Do you mean Merrist Wood?
Hi, Great Video! Thank you!
What knot do you use to fasten the grey prusik line to the blue carabiner?
plinse just a double fisherman's knot that goes over the gray prusik cord
@@andrieshenkens4129 No, after researching for about an hour I found it. It is called a sliding double fisherman's knot. They show how to make it here. vimeo.com/124363236
I made the mistake of not leaving a few inches between the pulley and prussik which resulted in a jammed system. Once I spotted this error I was up tree trunks like Batman walking up building walls. 😂
How long is the access cord in inches? Cheers
Gemma Hamer
36” or 3ft worked for me
But depending on knots you use, could be longer or shorter
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I been using a 7mm prusik cord rated for 2500 lbf in my lanyard to adjust the length with a friction knot I wight 215lbs. I will like to continue using this for the climbing hitch. Do you think that this is good enoug to use it in this system?
Isa Abd Rahman Sosa-Dominguez lil confused in your question, but I think I follow. Yes your 7mm prusik cord should be ok to use as your split tail /climbing setup friction knot on 7/16 - 1/2” climb line
It is ok for the line that makes the friction knot to be of smaller diameter than the climbing rope, but not the other way around. You do knot want a larger diameter knot rope than the climb rope. Hope this makes sense.
As long as the hitch cord is heat resistant.
Is that prusik loop also Dan’s foot locking prusik? That’s got my wheels turning….can I quickly reach a low remote canopy anchor with secure footlock. Smooth transition to MRS rope over lanyard advance?
What size rope should I use for my weight bearing Prusik? I've seen guys use really small diameter rope but I can't find any that has sufficient weight rating.
treestuff.com has Prusik loops you can get which have 5k plus rated strength
Could you use a fixed pully
Where can i buy one? And how much??
The components are:
Prusik loop, micro pulley and accessory cordage to attach pulley with, really simple. You can by them from any arborist equipment supplier.
Climbing Arborist Thank you!!
why on earth use double rope.
hiw about shiwing thus with srt
jadekayak01 double is obviously for speed quicker to set up no fuss no frills jus rope up and go
mark morey that sounds more like srt,not ddrt
jadekayak01 I use a mix of both but crossed some rock tech over to tree work and works good for me up a 40ft in 2 mins only issue with using a butterfly knot wen advancing to the next fix point gotta pull 40 ft of rope up but personally speed overall is 5× faster than using srt alone all ways work but personally I prefer full on logging drop a tree and have done with it pruning is my side line