Had a fun glitch the other day where we definitely got him to final stand right as the damage phase ended, but it didn't count, causing the final stand theme to play during the entire next setup phase. And it fucking ruled.
I've had this happen multiple times. His damage phase is one of the shittiest, buggiest things they've ever put into a raid. He just randomly chooses a time when he's going to actually respond to what you did and do the damage phase - sometimes immediately, sometimes after thirty seconds, and everywhere in between - and then it fucks up all the music scripting and everything else too. It's a testament to how shitty this boss is that it even breaks the *music* which is something Bungie generally never misses on.
@@Narfwak Damage phase actually starts fifteen(ish?) seconds after your last completed node -- you can track it by counting the pulsing roots that head into his monolith, which are a little bit longer than a second per pulse. EDIT: With all ads that AREN'T centurions dead (a clear field), the DPS timer quickly hastens to something more like 3 seconds. That being said his ACTUAL movement and activity during damage sucks major balls.
(Maniacal laughter) “Oh, a shame we cannot entertain our one-sides conversation further. But this… this feels too good. *GUARDIAN!* *LET* *ME* *DEVOUR* *YOUR* *FEAR!!”*
I love how heroic and hopeful the DPS sections sound. It’s like the instant we can hurt Nezarec, something is telling us “you can do this! take him down now!”
@@AzimuthPrime a Disciple of the strongest being in existence was killed by the weakest Hive God. Then proceeded to come back with double the power and die even faster. His dialogue comes off as just being edgy without any of the class Rhulk had. But truth be told, my main gripes are with the higher decisions. Nezarec only has to do with Psions now because someone saw the erroneous helmet connection and made it real. Nezarec never had to do with Nightmares, and they made that a thing based on nothing, but Bungie couldn't even get the right type of nightmare down. Nezarec's dream powers have nothing to do with Nightmare energy. Oh and his Sin is straight up missing even though that's the thing that defined him for several years. A vile bastard with a curious goal to see Light shine anew when dusk falls. Now he's just a lapdog.
I remember before we even knew what Nezarec looked like, I listened to the OST version of this song and imagined just this...absolutely gigantic, writhing serpentine mass of terror and nightmares incarnate, and when DPS hit at 9:59 it would rise up into the air, coiling around itself as the Guardians would have to shoot at its weak points. Definitely not what we got, but I can never imagine anything else when I hear that part anymore.
Oh man, no no no, i have listened to the original full track that even with the winds missing, I can still hear the entire piece in my head simply off of what the percussion are doing
The female voices during the dps phases almost give this feeling that it’s the traveler calling out because it’s supposedly some of our strongest enemies. Our darkest hours. Just seems out of place but in the good way. Like this small bastion of hope covered by black fog and war
While I don't *hate* Nez's lore, I...don't really care for it either? Like, I read it, and I'm just thinking "ok, cool, neat" and then toss it out of the way.
According to bungie, not caring is the worst thing they want from players. Apathy. They either want people hate talking it or love talking about destiny
Maybe if the arena wasn't so clustered. If it was more open like maybe Kell's Scourge's arena from SotP, then yeah, but Nezarec's is too dense for it to work.
i am so mad they went with the DPS phase that they did. when the track bungie released made it seem like DPS 3 will be the actual DPS theme. this track was ALMOST the best dps theme. so close to greatness. yet so far. just like lightfall in a way.
Reminds me of how they gutted Riven's theme back in the forsaken soundtrack. The phase 2 section of her theme is one of if not my absolute favorite part of destiny's entire soundtrack, and it never showing up in the official soundtrack is criminal.
After soloing this guy, yes this track goes unbelievably hard. Unfortunately in game it tends to bug out a lot and not play the correct parts when they should take place, mainly the final stand part. still a 10/10 tho
A lot of the lore just doesn't make sense. It's established he's a betrayer of the Witness (99% sure it's the Witness) Yet there are statues of him on the Witnesses ship and a tomb made specifically for him. It just doesn't make any sense for it to be there.
@@nullandvoid7524That's not what I remember from the lore at all? What I took away from the story was that SAVATHUN betrayed the witness by assassinating Nezarec during the collapse, and she hid the Veil on Neptune. The Witness kept Nezarec's remains on the Pyramid flagship, memorialized in a chrysalis. When Guardians came to Neomuna, they... Heard Nezarec in the cloud arc somehow? And then they used their desire and paracausality to effectively wish Nezarec back into existence just to kill him, because Guardians make their own fate and thought he was a good villain to face
@@ninjathis3009 wished him into existence? You mean how the Traveler struck his body with the teraforming beam and unintentionally blessed him with the Light, manifesting him back into the physical world. The Neomuna thing was the Shadow Legion Psions trying to manifest him as an attack, which was the whole thing with the Terminal Overloads at launch. The big thing is them making the Darkness a mental attribute, so anyone thinking about him (particularly in terror, his main focus) gave him strength. It's why his ship on the moon makes Nightmares.
Had a fun glitch the other day where we definitely got him to final stand right as the damage phase ended, but it didn't count, causing the final stand theme to play during the entire next setup phase. And it fucking ruled.
Was one of your teammates bulldog5318 by any chance? I had the same thing happen
@@SentientMattress531 No way, creampieguy69, is that you??? (I did not play with you)
I've had this happen multiple times. His damage phase is one of the shittiest, buggiest things they've ever put into a raid. He just randomly chooses a time when he's going to actually respond to what you did and do the damage phase - sometimes immediately, sometimes after thirty seconds, and everywhere in between - and then it fucks up all the music scripting and everything else too. It's a testament to how shitty this boss is that it even breaks the *music* which is something Bungie generally never misses on.
@@Narfwak For real, and it's a shame because the song definitely slaps
@@Narfwak Damage phase actually starts fifteen(ish?) seconds after your last completed node -- you can track it by counting the pulsing roots that head into his monolith, which are a little bit longer than a second per pulse.
EDIT: With all ads that AREN'T centurions dead (a clear field), the DPS timer quickly hastens to something more like 3 seconds.
That being said his ACTUAL movement and activity during damage sucks major balls.
(Maniacal laughter)
“Oh, a shame we cannot entertain our one-sides conversation further. But this… this feels too good.
*GUARDIAN!* *LET* *ME* *DEVOUR* *YOUR* *FEAR!!”*
I think the VA in english did beat every other language VA easily
I love how heroic and hopeful the DPS sections sound. It’s like the instant we can hurt Nezarec, something is telling us “you can do this! take him down now!”
While I may not play Destiny anymore. The songs NEVER fail to hit hard
They screw up a lot of things, but never the music
yo check out the new glitch@@ThaAlecman
And now they've gone and laid off both Salvatori and Sechrist, the composer behind this piece. I am genuinely so angry lol
@@thegloriouskingkronk8422yup that was truly the nail in the coffin for me, i hope mike and the others find better games to compose for
Best final stand theme. Also finally one with the different ending, was looking for that once I heard it in the raid.
10:28 Contest PTSD theme
The DPS phase is just sooo perfect. Same with the precussion snare hits in Syzgy. Shame that both were taken out of the official soundtrack
Goddamn I forgot how much more grand the in-game finale is compared to the ost version. Glad you’re back, Promethean.
This really hits hard and yes I agree that Nez's lore is caca but I love the tune
I stopped playing when Lightfall dropped, could you briefly summarise his lore?
@@AzimuthPrime ooga booga imma slap u cuz i like pain, oh hi savathun, oh im dead - Nezarec
@@AzimuthPrimethis is the only guy I've heard say the lore is bad so far its some of the most liked in the game and Def the best from lightfall
@MrStricker15 you can literally dumb-down any characters story and make it sound bad...unpopular and stupid take
@@AzimuthPrime a Disciple of the strongest being in existence was killed by the weakest Hive God. Then proceeded to come back with double the power and die even faster.
His dialogue comes off as just being edgy without any of the class Rhulk had.
But truth be told, my main gripes are with the higher decisions. Nezarec only has to do with Psions now because someone saw the erroneous helmet connection and made it real. Nezarec never had to do with Nightmares, and they made that a thing based on nothing, but Bungie couldn't even get the right type of nightmare down. Nezarec's dream powers have nothing to do with Nightmare energy.
Oh and his Sin is straight up missing even though that's the thing that defined him for several years. A vile bastard with a curious goal to see Light shine anew when dusk falls. Now he's just a lapdog.
I remember before we even knew what Nezarec looked like, I listened to the OST version of this song and imagined just this...absolutely gigantic, writhing serpentine mass of terror and nightmares incarnate, and when DPS hit at 9:59 it would rise up into the air, coiling around itself as the Guardians would have to shoot at its weak points.
Definitely not what we got, but I can never imagine anything else when I hear that part anymore.
Dammit I want that now. There's so many great fan designs and amazing concept arts, yet we got this meatball instead. Makes me sad, man.
It’s funny you say that, because there was some old concept of The Witness’s raid boss fight that’s in line with what you mentioned.
Ay, es una pena que no podamos mantener esta conversación unilateral.
¡¡¡GUARDIANES, DÉJENME DEVORAR SUS MIEDOS!!!
Oh good you included the DPS bits with the choir, most mixes tend not to for some reason.
0:40 i never heard that before. I love it.
I loved when he said it’s paining time and then got one phased by 6 thunderlords
Oh man, no no no, i have listened to the original full track that even with the winds missing, I can still hear the entire piece in my head simply off of what the percussion are doing
The female voices during the dps phases almost give this feeling that it’s the traveler calling out because it’s supposedly some of our strongest enemies. Our darkest hours. Just seems out of place but in the good way. Like this small bastion of hope covered by black fog and war
Well moment
While I don't *hate* Nez's lore, I...don't really care for it either?
Like, I read it, and I'm just thinking "ok, cool, neat" and then toss it out of the way.
According to bungie, not caring is the worst thing they want from players. Apathy. They either want people hate talking it or love talking about destiny
...He's coming back
When my favourite Destiny music channel uploads 🥰
Final stand music was pretty cool when i first heard it and when i got out of dps phase and it got to this part 4:46 something just resonated with me
I wonder if Nezarec be worse or better if Bungie blocked off the DPS platforms when it started? That way hed be moving around like Rhulk would
I’d love to see that just for the shitshow that would cause on Reddit and twitter
Maybe if the arena wasn't so clustered. If it was more open like maybe Kell's Scourge's arena from SotP, then yeah, but Nezarec's is too dense for it to work.
@@hue_lord_4208true and that mf runs fast
you saw the future
@@gf6753 he was a bitch to fight on contest, unless you hid over to the left or ride
“They’re just fighting a red tormentor with wings and no concept of height, the music doesn’t have to be that good”
Michal Salvatori: 3:01
This is definitely my favorite raid soundtrack, thanks for uploading these!!
Ayy there it is, thx a million Promethean!
Zo’Aurc mix please 🙏
I don't care if this was an easy raid, killing this guy on day 1 was so fun after the gauntlet that was kings fall.
Lightfall may not have been good but fuck music never disappoints….you will be missed Micheal the god of destiny ost
3:03. Admit it, you came here for this.
Thanks for this
I came here to remind myself why I came to hate this series.
9:46 Sorry, but I came for this man
Thank you for spelling it correctly.
11:10 for my own use
i am so mad they went with the DPS phase that they did. when the track bungie released made it seem like DPS 3 will be the actual DPS theme. this track was ALMOST the best dps theme. so close to greatness. yet so far. just like lightfall in a way.
Reminds me of how they gutted Riven's theme back in the forsaken soundtrack. The phase 2 section of her theme is one of if not my absolute favorite part of destiny's entire soundtrack, and it never showing up in the official soundtrack is criminal.
10:03 best part imo , goosebumps
незарек, последний бог боли
The Beyond Light Motif at 3:29 fits pretty well. I like how it's well used ahead of Beyond Light's time
Not gonna lie, wish the choir for the start of DPS was in the album version
After soloing this guy, yes this track goes unbelievably hard. Unfortunately in game it tends to bug out a lot and not play the correct parts when they should take place, mainly the final stand part. still a 10/10 tho
I’m glad Promethean continues to over deliver
Unlike bungie, Promethean has the resources
@@dazambiebungie is the one with the resources that made the music 💀
@@dazambiehe's setting himself for failure in future releases smh
I am the final god of cats.
How do you fire this man
Never heard dp3 part tbh
if you are going to do nezarec in master YOULL GET A LOOP OF THIS TRACK!
What do you not like about Nezarec’s lore? I don’t really have an opinion either way, but I am curious.
I thought the lore of Nezarec was pretty good. :(
A lot of the lore just doesn't make sense.
It's established he's a betrayer of the Witness (99% sure it's the Witness)
Yet there are statues of him on the Witnesses ship and a tomb made specifically for him. It just doesn't make any sense for it to be there.
@@nullandvoid7524i was under the impression he didn't betray the Witness, he just failed it by letting Savathûn steal the Veil
@@nullandvoid7524That's not what I remember from the lore at all?
What I took away from the story was that SAVATHUN betrayed the witness by assassinating Nezarec during the collapse, and she hid the Veil on Neptune.
The Witness kept Nezarec's remains on the Pyramid flagship, memorialized in a chrysalis.
When Guardians came to Neomuna, they... Heard Nezarec in the cloud arc somehow?
And then they used their desire and paracausality to effectively wish Nezarec back into existence just to kill him, because Guardians make their own fate and thought he was a good villain to face
@@ninjathis3009 wished him into existence? You mean how the Traveler struck his body with the teraforming beam and unintentionally blessed him with the Light, manifesting him back into the physical world. The Neomuna thing was the Shadow Legion Psions trying to manifest him as an attack, which was the whole thing with the Terminal Overloads at launch.
The big thing is them making the Darkness a mental attribute, so anyone thinking about him (particularly in terror, his main focus) gave him strength. It's why his ship on the moon makes Nightmares.
Man I hope we have to kill the Witness in a Raid like Oryx
It's already confirmed that the Witness will be weakened in the raid, leaving a final mission to kill it off permanently.
Salvation's Peak
Nezarec, Final God of Pain
Nezarec, Final God of Pain
What does that title even mean?
Who was the first?
Nezarec, Final God of Pain
Nezarec, Final God of Pain
@@nullandvoid7524Nezarec, Final God of Pain
Nezzy!
Nezarec, Final God of Pain