A third of the galaxy would probably be under Romulan subjugation, the other two thirds would be scrambling to defend themselves against the Borg, the Klingons, the Cardassians/Dominion, or any of the other galaxy-level threats that Starfleet keeps at bay almost weekly. No one’s demanding that you kneel and kiss the boot of every captain you see, but no one in an organization like Starfleet deserves that type of disrespect.
he also makes a few good points during his rant, if Starfleet didn't exist none of them would be there in the first place as they'd either be at war or borgified, he rightfully called out the species that traps people inside of games, the AI-ism (racism but against AIs) against The Doctor from Voyager since he's counted as a crew member despite being a self aware ai that is normally banned by Starfleet (due to the majority of them wanting to take over the Galaxy), etc.
@@sliestwheel actually, the majority of AIs in Starfleet aren’t evil, just a bunch of androids (which they were using as a slave race to begin with, the same thing Picard and Guinan warned of) got hacked by a clandestine Romulan group to stage the attack on Mars. Most AI life forms just wanna live. Except for the various evil computers in TOS and also Lore
It shows he's passionate about it. He's not just some ensign reading a script. The rarest and most valuable commodity in the federation is excitement. That's what he's offering. Most folks in the federation have never gone hungry a day in their lives. Food, water, shelter, medical care, etc. are a given baseline part of life for them. If you want them to sign up you have to offer them something they can't get if they stay home.
What I really liked about the tantrum was the testament to Mariner and Boimler's friendship. At the beginning, Mariner was fending off the sass while Boimler was staying calm and trying to recruit. But then that scientist took his rank pin. Mariner KNEW that went too far. She immediately tried to calm down Boimler, but he was long gone. Love the Lower Decks
His entire lofe is star fleet and rising up the ranks press that button or make fun of it enough and he blows up like the pakleds blowing up their own planet
Rank in star fleet means something to them like A doctor earning his PhD and being called a nurse you earned that shit respect the title. At least you don’t have to respect the person, but respect the rank.
I think she was more worried for her boi than wanting to distence herself. Also I think she is seeing what it's like to be on the other side of the "violent maniac" character
He's yelling and making a scene, sure, but he's also voicing complaints I suspect every starfleet officer has. Most of them don't _want_ to be a military, they just want to explore and study stuff. Buuuut space is dangerous, so they also have the weapons, so they end up dealing with _so much bullshit._ Honestly, boimler's freakout here is probably *immensely* cathartic to watch for starfleet folks in general.
"We don't want to protect you from the klingons and the borg, we just want to study fucking quasars but it's the right thing to do" really there's something to be said about the multi role function of star fleet and the fact that you end up having people who wanted a military career, people who wanted a physics or biology career and people who wanted a career in engineering having to do all of those roles together as the situation demands in addition to diplomacy and it still somehow working because their education system is so good.
starfleet is so big they should technically split in 2 groups. like in TOS they mentioned the UESPA (united earth space probe agency) and starfleet. it makes no sense to combine both together.
@@cosmeticscameo8277 Like the Vulcan Explorer Corp is still around. But yeah, the whole idea of TNG Enterprise is a mess. It goes to the front lines, but there are families and kids aboard. It hauls around relaxation rooms, child care, and auditorium. But sure, let's face Cardassians with it.
@@recoil53 the enterprise-D if the show went according to the intention of hte ship which is deep deep space exploration of the far reaches of the galaxy than it would make sense as the ship has a cycle of 25 years. it comes home every 25 years. so you would need families, you would need recreation facilities, basically a mobile starbase so the crew don't go stir crazy from being gone from home for so long. let's face it if voyager was a galaxy class the crew would have much less incentive to go home in such a rush as at leas half the crew would have families on board and push comes to shove they got a big enough gene pool and with the kids to just keep making replacements if htey ever truly got flung far enough but yeah it's funny sending a explorer like the enterprise-D to the war zones. :D
@@joeswanson733 The intention of the Flagship of the Federation is to show the flag - go to hot spots and remind everybody the Federation is willing to put it's foot down. It's supposed to be half warship half explorer by design. Which intentionally puts children in danger.
He save the Titan crew members from pakleds using obscure transporter knowledge, risked drowning to fix the cerritos while it was in an asteroid field and beat a rigged training simulation *repeatedly* so that he could get a better score by beating the Borg Queen in chess and teaching the Borg the value of empathy. Boimler has always been badass.
@@mrshadow4007 He even sacrifieced his 'captain' look just his time with the Red Shirts to calm down Tendi when she was under the influence of the Mood Cube by pretty much humiliating himself to make her laugh, which earned him praise from Ransom for his quick thinking.He is a badass and always there for his friends.
Yeah Boimler whole thing is that he is all about Starfleet, he follows rules and regulations, respects the chain of command and all that. Starfleet is his life and he will do all he can to protect it.
@thegrimmretails3777 Season 4 Episode 10 shows Boimler as an acting captain of the Cerritos, even if it is for a brief moment. He was pretty good at it, definitely is captain material.
*SuperSonicHeroes ~* Demons run and Angels tremble, - when a Good Man goes to War. - Armies break and Empires fall, - when a Good Man goes to War, - Night falls and Darkness abounds, - when a Good Man goes to War.
@@pendrake40 Demons run when a good man goes to war Night will fall and drown the sun When a good man goes to war Friendship dies and true love lies Night will fall and the dark will rise When a good man goes to war Demons run, but count the cost The battle's won, but the child is lost
I genuinely felt really bad for Boimer when the douchey scientists broke his pip, but later in the episode you see them cowering in fear as he stomps their table into the dirt. and Ransom says they cried. SO satisfying.
@@chaoticsky106 Well, Klingons also respect someone who stands up for themselves. Remember Lt. Pazlar and the Klingon Chef on DS9? She gets the good stuff because she tears him a new ass. He laughs, tells her to wait, and gives her and Bashir the best he has.
@@firebladeentertainment5739 Vulcans are in fact capable of very strong emotions. They are just as passionate on the inside as Romulans, which makes sense given their shared origins. But not every Vulcan has gone to the degree of emotional supression that Tuvok has. Kohlinar, after all, is an extreme. But generally it is discouraged among Vulcan to express these emotions. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen anyway sometimes.
Everyone is supposed to fail KM scenarios. Command cadets usually wash out after one and enter different tracks. Only the exceptionally stubborn keep hammering at KM in an attempt to 'win'. 17 times means he's a special sort of crazy.
I also loved how they mentioned right before this clip that the uni forms aren't enforced across the fleet. I think this is a reference to Star Trek online where when you can mandate specific uniforms for your vessel.
when we saw riker, titan crew other starfleet officers they're still wearing the DS9 uniforms lead me to believe that different parts of starfleet wear different uniforms kind of like in ww2 where european theater soldiers definitely don't wear he same uniforms as their pacific theater counterparts.
My interpretation is that there's general uniform guidelines for ranks and colours. But the specifics of the uniform is up to the discretion of each ship's captain to make each each other identifiable in a Starfleet setting.
@@utubrGaming Yeah that seem to be the thing. Uniforms can be updated per Ships affections discretions. In the end it's probably up to the captain to have the uniform be "updated", altought they would -at least I would- place the change up for a vote for the different options.
@@utubrGaming More likely, Starfleet Command has been routinely updating uniforms as the recent conflicts revealed weaknesses in the designs. After all, with matter replicators as standard, it's not a massive imposition to issue new uniforms, especially to ships on shorter assignments.
Me, before this episode: "Boimler... make Captain of a starship? Really? Nah." After watching this episode: "Captain Boimler will be one of Starfleet's greatest heroes!"
That was kind of cemented for me when he beat an unwinnable game multiple times just because he wanted a 100%. I'm scared of what he could do if he had confidence.
@@akbarrmd7714no, a borg themed extraction sim evaluation written by a rear echelon bish who sabotaged most of the sims to justify her program by producing failures
@akbarrmd7714 the test they're referring to is a rigged simulation in episode 2-8 intended to make the crew fail by blocking creative solutions. Although Boimler did try the Kobayashi Maru 7 times(I think, might have been 10) before giving up. Edit: Looked it up. He failed 17 times! Mate does not give up.
starfleet is so big they should technically split in 2 groups. like in TOS they mentioned the UESPA (united earth space probe agency) and starfleet. it makes no sense to combine both together.
Then don't make their ships able to stand toe to toe with the D'deridex-class Warbirds. The Voyager was also described as the most advanced ship in the sector. It doesn't scream peace.
@@recoil53 Okay, what about normal threats. Oberth class science ships are infamous for getting blown up, because they're geared almost entirely for science with little defensive or offensive capability. A Galaxy Class can do science wherever it damn well pleases.
Something that gets forgotten is that Boimler is actually pretty tough. Compared to the likes of Mariner who's unreasonably good in a fight he comes up short, but when he's in a brawl he's able to last a while, which is sometimes all you need in a critical situation. Like when he was in the mine trying to survive Packlets during his time on the Titan, he survived long enough to evac his team and himself. Also when he was being hunted a few episodes back. Sure he got caught, but he was able to evade in limited space for a long time before he made the mistake that got him speared.
Boimler was REALLY toughened by his time aboard the Titan. It made him stronger and more confident to have served under Riker. Mariner is unreasonably good in a fight because she LOVES fighting. She works out by simulating a CARDASSIAN PRISON BREAK, her weapon of choice is a god damn Bat'leth, and she very likely served during the Dominion War. Mariner LOVES to fight, so obviously she's had a LOT of training.
Mariner is not "unreasonably good" in a fight. she just better than what you like. It makes sense she can fight because she been around nothing but fighters
@@IronheartvsMiles I don't mean "unreasonably: in terms of her being a girl or in terms of realism, I mean in terms of she can absolutely annihilate anyone else we see on screen in single combat except maybe Shaxx. She absolutely beat the shit out of both Boimler and Rutherford while blind after breaking her only means of discerning her surroundings except for the sounds of terror and pain. Girl's crazy good.
I've been rewatching this bit over and over all day, its just so satisfying. Especially if you've ever had to argue against someone saying starfleet is just a military. 🖖
@@ReddwarfIV good rule of thumb, if the question is, "is someone actually saying (dumb thing)", the answer is yes, someone is actually saying dumb thing. never doubt the human ability to say dumb things
@@folklore19 after the 17th try his commanding officer probably filled him in. We saw how dedicated he is to performance perfection in the Borg simulation, he probably would've kept going
The man speaks the truth. Despite what the reputation Starfleet has, its not exactly easy. You'll get attack at random for no reason, Fall victim to Q, Encounter strange anomalies, Visit strange places that may or may not latch something onto you with some weird ass disease, etc. But all in all Starfleet despite what people generally think of the organization, is always the one who goes knee deep first into the fray and fight whatever they encounter head on. That is what being a Starfleet Officer is all about.
Outpost scientist: aw look, a cute little creature! Creature: Moopsy! Sci#2: How cute! Sci#1: Awww-Owwwwww! Sci#3: Call Starfleet! Sci#2: No way, I'm not calling those military wann- (Moopsy bites her) Sci#3: I'M CALLIN' STARFLEET!
This is basically like what happens at school, when you get picked on too much for something your interested in so much. Then once they deliberately abuse/damage an item of your interest whilst laughing at you, you would have had enough of their BS towards you, snap and start beating the s*** out of them with all that built up rage.
DEFINITELY BEEN THERE pal! MANY A time-when you pick on the smart kid and push her too far, YOU GET A WHOOPING AND A godzilla bite to the arm if ya pop balloons in her face! I HATE BALLOON POP LOUD SOUNDS and those that pick on hard-working students with a learning disability-you unleash THE DRAGON WITHIN!
Glad to see him tell off those aliens who like games from that ds9 episode move along home, that episode actually kept me away from ds9 for a whole year and it was only through others encouragement that I continued and loved it, but can you imagine if that had been the last ds9 episode I ever saw
Boimler really spoke the truth here. Starfleet is the reason why so many alien races were discovered and are co-existing with other alien races. And they have saved the Galaxy from threats like the Borg, Dominion, and evil space entities.
In the TOS alone, you see how many times the Enterprise had to take part in extremely important political missions, and saving the day to an universal scale from mysterious threats. None would know about it since the logs made by the crew are probably never published by starfleet, but yeah, none of them would exist without it.
Wow for once Biomler is in big trouble but despite that Mariner was able to sign up more people to join Starfleet which made Commander Ransom very happy. I think there's a hint at the end of that episode that suspect that Mariner will be thinking about joining the theif that she just met today if Ransom did kick her out of Starfleet in Season 3 finale.
In reality Bloimer basically get just a slap on the wrist with Ransom honestly proud of what he had done as probably the heckling happen every time and Starfleet need/must always act as the adult in the room and just take it from people that in the end are ungratefull karens as they were saved many many many times by them
@@lukedalton Make sense a Ransom seems to have a strong respect for Biomler especially after the Bridge Buddy episode so understandable he would let him off easy especially since it was that freak out that got people to sign up.
A bit 'money lenders in the temple for me', but, Boims, I'm right there with you. Exploring, finding, learning, right there with you. Those base guys wore the same uniform as each other, for sake's sake! He's right to lose it front of hypocrisy. I'm a little impressed by that barely-seen Vulcan woman's calm, I wonder if it was someone we meet later?
The outpost scientist isn't as smart as she thinks, starfleet is the space navy they observe a lot of what earths naval forces used to do so wearing a uniform is correct and essential.
boimler: ends in the brig from rage outburst also boiler: gets people into starfleet thus acomplishing the objective gets respect from everyone, namely brige staff took a piss at many losers got one more over mariner
I don't blame Boimler for losing it. He's always wanted to be a starship captain, and this civilian comes by and "demotes" him while laughing. I wouldn't be surprised if bullies from his hometown of Modesto did stuff like this to him because his family made raisins.
I love how this is a recurring theme with Lower Decks cast. Even Ryker and his hit squad bring it up. They all just wanna run around and scan shiny things and map quasars. Sure blowing up badguys is fun but a lot of starfleet is legitimately unhappy with all the fighting they have to do. All the traps and snares and betrayals and romulan nonsense. "We just want to scan quasars" Mar says it, Tindy says it, Boimler, Ryker, The Captain says it. Its oddly... Wholesome, that a lot of star fleet would be super happy being left alone to scan rocks and poke artifacts.
To explain why Boimler was enraged: Forcibly ripping out rank insignia is one of the gravest acts that can be done against military personnel. The *only* time it is a legitimate action is when the soldier is being dishonorably dismissed. By pulling out his pips, the Female Outpost Scientist effectively called Boimler equivalent to a murderer, rapist, coward or traitor.
@@ChevaliersEmeraude It is and always has been a military, even if one or two officers like to tell themselves that they're not. The "not a military" thing was something from very early TNG that was quickly abandoned.
Boimler going ballistic was deeply cathartic. Also, considering the degree of actual fear and respect he managed to cultivate in just a few seconds, he's definitely meant for a captain's chair.
I have a little headcanon theory for Starfleet's military/non-military role: that Starfleet does set itself out as a non-military scientific agency, but all the cool quasars and nebulas and stuff always end up right next to hostile alien empires. So of course all the exploration ships need big guns on them to keep the scientists safe. And of course the Federation doesn't have a *military*, because they're against that kind of thing. But then when the Klingons or whatever attack you need to make do with what you got and, wouldn't ya know it, all the ships with big guns belong to the scientists and explorers. So you just end up with centuries of flat refusal to actually establish a proper, dedicated military for purely utopian reasons, and it never backfires because the Federation has armed all the nerds to the teeth already. All because you can't just go out and scan a comet or do zero-G botany experiments without needing enough firepower to blow up a small moon.
Pretty Much. Starfleet are frustrated Astronauts forced into a military role because everyone and theirbgrand ma wants a piece of Humanity after they successfully became a Space Faring Species right after they crawled out of a century of ruble caused by the Nuclear Wars that brought them to the edge of extinction. Humanity pulled in a century what too other species a millenia to achieve, it's why even the Klingons begrudgingly respect Starfleet.
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"The Doctor didn't spend seven years in the Delta Quadrant for you to question his agency. HE'S GOT RIGHTS!"
Say it again Boims!
Explain the reference here.
@@karakun1 the doctor from Star Trek Voyager is a hologram. Watch season 7 episode 19 and you’ll understand the reference.
@@thomasdang6322 oh that doctor.
@@karakun1 yeah he might be a hologram but boimler has a point. He does have rights.👍
Maybe the jerks from season one of Picard.
"Without Starfleet, none of you would exist!" - FACT!
A third of the galaxy would probably be under Romulan subjugation, the other two thirds would be scrambling to defend themselves against the Borg, the Klingons, the Cardassians/Dominion, or any of the other galaxy-level threats that Starfleet keeps at bay almost weekly. No one’s demanding that you kneel and kiss the boot of every captain you see, but no one in an organization like Starfleet deserves that type of disrespect.
@@SpaceCase132 FRRRRR!!!!
Not to mention within 6 months, all those fucks would be dead or worse.
@@SpaceCase132 starfleet, wether they like it or not, are the wall keeping their part of the galaxy free from 7 different flavors of tyranny.
I mean….kinda?
Like, there might be specific people who wouldn’t exist.and the universe wouldn’t be the same but the races would still exist.
What gets me is that Boimler never attacked anyone, he just yelled and flipped some tables. And he was FEARED.
Boimler was very much chasing people around and throwing things at them though
@thegrimmretails3777Yeah, doing that to the rank insignia of someone in the IRL military is a very bad move.
It's always the quiet ones that catch you off gaurd
@@NotEnoughSpots "Demons run when a good man goes to war."
Oh he did attack people, he just used his voice instead of his weapons.
I like how Boimler's freakout ends up convincing someone to join Starfleet.
Someones*
At the end of the episode the booth is surrounded by people signing up
he also makes a few good points during his rant, if Starfleet didn't exist none of them would be there in the first place as they'd either be at war or borgified, he rightfully called out the species that traps people inside of games, the AI-ism (racism but against AIs) against The Doctor from Voyager since he's counted as a crew member despite being a self aware ai that is normally banned by Starfleet (due to the majority of them wanting to take over the Galaxy), etc.
@@sliestwheel Plus these are all the idiots whom Starfleet literally saves every day because they CAUSE the shit Starfleet has to clean up.
@@sliestwheel actually, the majority of AIs in Starfleet aren’t evil, just a bunch of androids (which they were using as a slave race to begin with, the same thing Picard and Guinan warned of) got hacked by a clandestine Romulan group to stage the attack on Mars.
Most AI life forms just wanna live.
Except for the various evil computers in TOS and also Lore
It shows he's passionate about it. He's not just some ensign reading a script. The rarest and most valuable commodity in the federation is excitement. That's what he's offering.
Most folks in the federation have never gone hungry a day in their lives. Food, water, shelter, medical care, etc. are a given baseline part of life for them. If you want them to sign up you have to offer them something they can't get if they stay home.
"The Doctor didn't spend seven years in the Delta Quadrant for you to question his agency. HE'S GOT RIGHTS!"
You go Boimler.
...for you f*cks to question his agency... Just to be precise.
What I really liked about the tantrum was the testament to Mariner and Boimler's friendship. At the beginning, Mariner was fending off the sass while Boimler was staying calm and trying to recruit. But then that scientist took his rank pin. Mariner KNEW that went too far. She immediately tried to calm down Boimler, but he was long gone. Love the Lower Decks
Everyone has a trigger button and we know what Boimler's is now.
His entire lofe is star fleet and rising up the ranks press that button or make fun of it enough and he blows up like the pakleds blowing up their own planet
Rank in star fleet means something to them like A doctor earning his PhD and being called a nurse you earned that shit respect the title. At least you don’t have to respect the person, but respect the rank.
@@hosungyoo5441 If you pulled off ANY IRL military person’s rank insignia it would be BAD.
We saw him throwing shit at people lmao, we never saw him attack anyone but he was flipping out lmao
Love that Mariner didn’t deny that the psychotic starfleet guy was with her😂
I think she was more worried for her boi than wanting to distence herself. Also I think she is seeing what it's like to be on the other side of the "violent maniac" character
Shes not ashamed of boimler. She saw this eventually and was just waiting for the right time for it.
He's yelling and making a scene, sure, but he's also voicing complaints I suspect every starfleet officer has. Most of them don't _want_ to be a military, they just want to explore and study stuff. Buuuut space is dangerous, so they also have the weapons, so they end up dealing with _so much bullshit._
Honestly, boimler's freakout here is probably *immensely* cathartic to watch for starfleet folks in general.
I mean, they do have uniforms (even not being a military), so kinda hard to deny...
@@pamsp Lots of people have uniforms. The Coastguard has uniforms; the *Salvation Army* has uniforms.
"We don't want to protect you from the klingons and the borg, we just want to study fucking quasars but it's the right thing to do" really there's something to be said about the multi role function of star fleet and the fact that you end up having people who wanted a military career, people who wanted a physics or biology career and people who wanted a career in engineering having to do all of those roles together as the situation demands in addition to diplomacy and it still somehow working because their education system is so good.
Ikr?
starfleet is so big they should technically split in 2 groups.
like in TOS they mentioned the UESPA (united earth space probe agency) and starfleet.
it makes no sense to combine both together.
@@cosmeticscameo8277 Like the Vulcan Explorer Corp is still around.
But yeah, the whole idea of TNG Enterprise is a mess. It goes to the front lines, but there are families and kids aboard. It hauls around relaxation rooms, child care, and auditorium. But sure, let's face Cardassians with it.
@@recoil53 the enterprise-D if the show went according to the intention of hte ship which is deep deep space exploration of the far reaches of the galaxy than it would make sense as the ship has a cycle of 25 years. it comes home every 25 years. so you would need families, you would need recreation facilities, basically a mobile starbase so the crew don't go stir crazy from being gone from home for so long. let's face it if voyager was a galaxy class the crew would have much less incentive to go home in such a rush as at leas half the crew would have families on board and push comes to shove they got a big enough gene pool and with the kids to just keep making replacements if htey ever truly got flung far enough but yeah it's funny sending a explorer like the enterprise-D to the war zones. :D
@@joeswanson733 The intention of the Flagship of the Federation is to show the flag - go to hot spots and remind everybody the Federation is willing to put it's foot down.
It's supposed to be half warship half explorer by design. Which intentionally puts children in danger.
I like to think that Mariner is thinking "Oh, thank God _I'm_ not the one that pushed him this far."
Yeah probably
She's probably thinking "Thank god HE flipped, I was THIS close ripping them a new one..."
MAD RESPECT FOR BOIMLER THIS EPISODE...usually a comedic pushover but today he was a badass tearing into this losers with his verbal switchblade
He save the Titan crew members from pakleds using obscure transporter knowledge, risked drowning to fix the cerritos while it was in an asteroid field and beat a rigged training simulation *repeatedly* so that he could get a better score by beating the Borg Queen in chess and teaching the Borg the value of empathy. Boimler has always been badass.
@@mrshadow4007 He even sacrifieced his 'captain' look just his time with the Red Shirts to calm down Tendi when she was under the influence of the Mood Cube by pretty much humiliating himself to make her laugh, which earned him praise from Ransom for his quick thinking.He is a badass and always there for his friends.
He is a very simple man with a big heart who finds himself In compromising situations
He's a reasonable man in an unreasonable world.
He tricked the evil computer to send a signal for help.
I could see how much pride Boimler took in being a part of the fleet. In the near future, he will be the captain the fleet needs most.
Yeah Boimler whole thing is that he is all about Starfleet, he follows rules and regulations, respects the chain of command and all that. Starfleet is his life and he will do all he can to protect it.
Captain. Nah, Boimler is admiral material.
@@fumarc4501 At any rank, he has the skill, courage, wits and heart to become a great senior command officer!
@thegrimmretails3777 Season 4 Episode 10 shows Boimler as an acting captain of the Cerritos, even if it is for a brief moment. He was pretty good at it, definitely is captain material.
Loved Boimler taking the piss out of those aliens from DS9's Move Along Home.
Someone had to say it
Tbf I don’t think anyone likes those guys
@@DwarfDaddy the guy in the episode had a magnificent mullet that would put Kenny Powers to shame though.
Honestly he let them off easy. I'd be roasting those goofy looking dip shits for a solid minute.
STOP TRAPPING PEOPLE IN GAMES!
"Beware the fury of a patient man." Boimler is another excellent example of why you should never piss off the nice guys.
*SuperSonicHeroes ~* Demons run and Angels tremble,
- when a Good Man goes to War.
- Armies break and Empires fall,
- when a Good Man goes to War,
- Night falls and Darkness abounds,
- when a Good Man goes to War.
Amen to that.
I would think of all the insults five minutes later and be too useless at fighting to back my anger up.
@@pendrake40 Demons run when a good man goes to war
Night will fall and drown the sun
When a good man goes to war
Friendship dies and true love lies
Night will fall and the dark will rise
When a good man goes to war
Demons run, but count the cost
The battle's won, but the child is lost
If there is ever a time travel episode he and fishlegs ingerman would so get along
I genuinely felt really bad for Boimer when the douchey scientists broke his pip, but later in the episode you see them cowering in fear as he stomps their table into the dirt. and Ransom says they cried. SO satisfying.
To be fair if I go up to any modern military officer and take their rank insignia off their uniform they probably kick your ass.
Take it off of ANYONE, elisted or commissioned, and you are getting demolished.
@@SoranoGuardias it's really sad that they are made to be that aggressive for no reason, though :(
I’d say I have more respect for starfleet officers than modern military because starfleet actually does stuff, but yes, you’ll surely get bodied
@@unematrix What do you mean by "made to be that aggressive"?
@@unematrix For no reason? Walking up to a complete stranger and putting your hands on them and messing up their clothes is very disrespectful.
"THAT WAS MY RANK PIP!!!"
Somehow, I knew this wasn't going to end well...
Reminds me of "Laddie... don't you think... you should rephrase that?"
pip
They've done made him mad now
Disrespecting someone's stripes or bars is a BIG no no.
1:33 That Klingon in the background is watching this chaos unfold...
AND IS LOVING IT!
Looks like a female klingon oh dear boimler is prey again
To be fair the Klingons know better than to piss Starfleet off *that* much.
@@chaoticsky106 Well, Klingons also respect someone who stands up for themselves.
Remember Lt. Pazlar and the Klingon Chef on DS9? She gets the good stuff because she tears him a new ass. He laughs, tells her to wait, and gives her and Bashir the best he has.
She's thinking, "oh yeah, that human get it."
Because Boimler is defending Star Fleet's honor
1:58 Nice little detail having the Vulcan stay perfectly calm
To be fair, if Boimler tried to mess with a Vulcan, he probably would get bodied.
the vulcan actually looks annoyed
"Just a human being emotional. Nothing new here."
@@firebladeentertainment5739 Vulcans are in fact capable of very strong emotions. They are just as passionate on the inside as Romulans, which makes sense given their shared origins. But not every Vulcan has gone to the degree of emotional supression that Tuvok has. Kohlinar, after all, is an extreme. But generally it is discouraged among Vulcan to express these emotions. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen anyway sometimes.
theres also a klingon female smiling in the background as he yells at someone
“I FAILED THE KOBIASHY MARU 17 TIMES MOTHER F$&@ERS!” I just love that line soo much and I don’t know why
Maybe because of how funny it is?
Everyone is supposed to fail KM scenarios. Command cadets usually wash out after one and enter different tracks. Only the exceptionally stubborn keep hammering at KM in an attempt to 'win'.
17 times means he's a special sort of crazy.
@mrbluebell2735 To be fair, this is Boimler, he aced another simulation designed to make him fail.
@@mrbluebell2735 This is also the same guy that did a hardcore Borg Simulation over and over from decent score until he got a perfect score
@@mrbluebell2735 And that makes you captain material.
When _Beckett Mariner_ is telling you to tone it down, you know you're a force to be reckoned with.
Ha ha ha "Your always getting people trapped inside of games. Stop trapping people inside of games." Let's go Boimler let's go.
At some point it’s just rude.
Yeah it's really rude for the people to crush his rank pip
Yeah, but without them we wouldn't have possibly the goofiest Star Trek episode of all time.
"Allamaraine, count to 4. Allamaraine, then 3 more."
I also loved how they mentioned right before this clip that the uni forms aren't enforced across the fleet. I think this is a reference to Star Trek online where when you can mandate specific uniforms for your vessel.
when we saw riker, titan crew other starfleet officers they're still wearing the DS9 uniforms lead me to believe that different parts of starfleet wear different uniforms kind of like in ww2 where european theater soldiers definitely don't wear he same uniforms as their pacific theater counterparts.
My interpretation is that there's general uniform guidelines for ranks and colours. But the specifics of the uniform is up to the discretion of each ship's captain to make each each other identifiable in a Starfleet setting.
@@utubrGaming Yeah that seem to be the thing. Uniforms can be updated per Ships affections discretions.
In the end it's probably up to the captain to have the uniform be "updated", altought they would -at least I would- place the change up for a vote for the different options.
@@utubrGaming More likely, Starfleet Command has been routinely updating uniforms as the recent conflicts revealed weaknesses in the designs. After all, with matter replicators as standard, it's not a massive imposition to issue new uniforms, especially to ships on shorter assignments.
The LD uniform looks bad in live action.
"You're always getting people trapped inside of games. Stop trapping people inside of games!!"
At some point it just becomes rude 😔
Me, before this episode: "Boimler... make Captain of a starship? Really? Nah."
After watching this episode: "Captain Boimler will be one of Starfleet's greatest heroes!"
That was kind of cemented for me when he beat an unwinnable game multiple times just because he wanted a 100%. I'm scared of what he could do if he had confidence.
@@Martialartfruituser He's working on it, and he will excel as an officer!
@@Martialartfruituser did he passed the Kobayashi Maru test?!! WITHOUT CHEATING?!!!
@@akbarrmd7714no, a borg themed extraction sim evaluation written by a rear echelon bish who sabotaged most of the sims to justify her program by producing failures
@akbarrmd7714 the test they're referring to is a rigged simulation in episode 2-8 intended to make the crew fail by blocking creative solutions. Although Boimler did try the Kobayashi Maru 7 times(I think, might have been 10) before giving up.
Edit: Looked it up. He failed 17 times! Mate does not give up.
There's a saying, "When the nice guy rages, the devil shivers.". In other words, never piss off Bradward Boimler.
rank means everything to brad. starfleet means everything to brad.taking his rank pip is like basically insulting his mother.
@Tin Watchman I honestly never heard that quote, who said it ?
@Tin Watchman nice call back to doctor who
Most people use it for the wrong type of 'nice guy' but in this case, this is real, this is w hat happens when you push a kind soul to far.
@@alvisceratortheultimate1660 it was from Doctor who. It was describing the eleventh doctor.
Holly Hell! This episode was awesome. Rutherford's backstory and Boimler going ballistic. There's just so much to love. 😆
so rutherford used to be a rebel racer. i prefer that to normal rutherford.
Except we didn’t get to see Ransom get the savage beating of a lifetime for being an unreasonable unredeemable prick.
I love them both
Seriously though starfleet SHOULDNT have to deal with everything because it’s an EXPLORATION organization and yet it all lands in their lap eventually
starfleet is so big they should technically split in 2 groups.
like in TOS they mentioned the UESPA (united earth space probe agency) and starfleet.
it makes no sense to combine both together.
Then don't make their ships able to stand toe to toe with the D'deridex-class Warbirds.
The Voyager was also described as the most advanced ship in the sector.
It doesn't scream peace.
@Tin Watchman The Borg was completely off scale as a threat - it took down 40 Star Fleet Ships without an issue.
@@recoil53 Okay, what about normal threats. Oberth class science ships are infamous for getting blown up, because they're geared almost entirely for science with little defensive or offensive capability. A Galaxy Class can do science wherever it damn well pleases.
@@recoil53 peace was never an option, it's the result.
"Do you like engineering?"
Uh, LOVE IT! You guys do that?"
That always gets me.
Something that gets forgotten is that Boimler is actually pretty tough. Compared to the likes of Mariner who's unreasonably good in a fight he comes up short, but when he's in a brawl he's able to last a while, which is sometimes all you need in a critical situation. Like when he was in the mine trying to survive Packlets during his time on the Titan, he survived long enough to evac his team and himself.
Also when he was being hunted a few episodes back. Sure he got caught, but he was able to evade in limited space for a long time before he made the mistake that got him speared.
Boimler was REALLY toughened by his time aboard the Titan. It made him stronger and more confident to have served under Riker. Mariner is unreasonably good in a fight because she LOVES fighting. She works out by simulating a CARDASSIAN PRISON BREAK, her weapon of choice is a god damn Bat'leth, and she very likely served during the Dominion War. Mariner LOVES to fight, so obviously she's had a LOT of training.
He's a trained officer in basically space coast guard. What do you expect?
Mariner is not "unreasonably good" in a fight. she just better than what you like. It makes sense she can fight because she been around nothing but fighters
@@IronheartvsMiles I don't mean "unreasonably: in terms of her being a girl or in terms of realism, I mean in terms of she can absolutely annihilate anyone else we see on screen in single combat except maybe Shaxx. She absolutely beat the shit out of both Boimler and Rutherford while blind after breaking her only means of discerning her surroundings except for the sounds of terror and pain. Girl's crazy good.
Lets not forget he (eventually) scored 100% in a scenario on a Borg cube by himself.
I love how this ended in a win for both of them.
I've been rewatching this bit over and over all day, its just so satisfying.
Especially if you've ever had to argue against someone saying starfleet is just a military.
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Picking off somebody's rank insignia and stomping on it is just asking for a fight.
No wonder Ransom said he'd get Boimler a beer.
Or that the federation is screwed up beyond measure.
Is anyone saying it's just a military? Usually the argument is that it does everything a military is supposed to do, but acts like it isn't one.
@@ReddwarfIV One of the people at the fair, but they were just going back and forth being assholes.
@@ReddwarfIV good rule of thumb, if the question is, "is someone actually saying (dumb thing)", the answer is yes, someone is actually saying dumb thing. never doubt the human ability to say dumb things
"Your ship smells like asssssss!!!"
Omg 😂
Outpost: *Jacks the rank pip*
Boimler: "I'm about to stop being sorry."
Outpost: *Tramples the rank pip*
Boimler: "I am officially done being sorry."
It was about time that Boilmer wasn't just the nice guy, but also did something really crazy.
More of this in the future please
1:33 Uh oh. Looks like Boimler has caught the attention of a Klingon female in the back there. That's probably gonna come back to bite him. Literally.
Boimler has game. He is somehow weirdly attractive to people. Look at how many women flirt with him when he was on his family vineyard.
My favorite line (shortly after this scene) from Boimler's rant: I failed the Kobayashi Maru 17 times, motherf***er! 😂
Bones said no one's gives it twice, kirk did it 3 times. This mf did it 17 times!
You think he ever figured out it's designed to make you fail?
It attests to his determination.
@@folklore19 after the 17th try his commanding officer probably filled him in. We saw how dedicated he is to performance perfection in the Borg simulation, he probably would've kept going
@@beastinthesky6774 Yeah I figure. Boimler is SO persistent he'd likely spend DAYS in the Kobayashi Maru simulator to brute force a solution.
The man speaks the truth. Despite what the reputation Starfleet has, its not exactly easy. You'll get attack at random for no reason, Fall victim to Q, Encounter strange anomalies, Visit strange places that may or may not latch something onto you with some weird ass disease, etc. But all in all Starfleet despite what people generally think of the organization, is always the one who goes knee deep first into the fray and fight whatever they encounter head on. That is what being a Starfleet Officer is all about.
Hell, without Star Fleet, everyone would have been assimilated by the Borg.
A fan theory I like is that starfleet changes the informs often so if accidental time travel happens you have a frame of reference for the time frame
Ooo I like that theory.
Makes sense. Someone could wake up one day, see everyone wearing TNG uniforms, and immediately know what happened
Outpost scientist: aw look, a cute little creature!
Creature: Moopsy!
Sci#2: How cute!
Sci#1: Awww-Owwwwww!
Sci#3: Call Starfleet!
Sci#2: No way, I'm not calling those military wann-
(Moopsy bites her)
Sci#3: I'M CALLIN' STARFLEET!
It’s a moopsy. They won’t make it in time.
This was the realest moment in the whole show. Boimler living the service industry dream
1:33 I noticed the Klingon woman in the background is admiring Boimler's rage.
I'd love to see Jack Quaid voicing this scene 🤣
Jack quaid
I'd love to see recording booth footage from every episode. Imagine the blooper reels!
That is Jack Quaid voicing Bradward Boimler.
Running around the booth ripping soundproof foam off the walls.
@@spyrofan9681That'd be awesome 😅
You can only push a nice person so far until they snap
they took his rank insignia and stepped on it.
it's like calling the enterprise a junk heap in front of scotty
prepare to get your a-- kicked.
@@cosmeticscameo8277 Yep, this was Boimler's "Laddie... don't ya think... you should rephrase that?" moment.
1:57 hold up, was that Morn? I'm amazed Boimler could rant over that guy, he's such a chatterbox.
I know, right? Apparently they had to cut 90% of his dialogue from DS9 because he just wouldn't shut up.
Angry Boimler is a treasure, even more so than regular Boimler
Ensign Bueller turns to the camera: "Here's where Brad goes berserk!"
Man, I can't wait to see how this goes into the Legend of the Cerritos, Enterprise of Starfleet Support Ships.
And how they spin it that a tiny robot did it
This is basically like what happens at school, when you get picked on too much for something your interested in so much. Then once they deliberately abuse/damage an item of your interest whilst laughing at you, you would have had enough of their BS towards you, snap and start beating the s*** out of them with all that built up rage.
Yep. Been there.
DEFINITELY BEEN THERE pal! MANY A time-when you pick on the smart kid and push her too far, YOU GET A WHOOPING AND A godzilla bite to the arm if ya pop balloons in her face! I HATE BALLOON POP LOUD SOUNDS and those that pick on hard-working students with a learning disability-you unleash THE DRAGON WITHIN!
@@brucechmiel7964 as have I.
It was glorious. It may be a sitcom, but they're all actually growing as characters and officers.
A sitcom set aboard a starship.
Which is why it's also part of the prime canon.
He had that Jesus in the market energy
Glad to see him tell off those aliens who like games from that ds9 episode move along home, that episode actually kept me away from ds9 for a whole year and it was only through others encouragement that I continued and loved it, but can you imagine if that had been the last ds9 episode I ever saw
"All you do is trap people in games, STOP TRAPPING PEOPLE IN GAMES!!" That felt cathartic to hear.
Only children enter at the first shap!
They also had the Ktarian brainwashing game from TNG "The Game" at their stand.
Ran away instantly. She was all bark and no bite. 😆
1:05
"Why do you have uniforms. You're not in a military."
NOAA Corps would like a word.
What I really want to know is what Boilmer told that Ferengi to do.
To rub their own ears, obviously.
I thought it was to Sit and Spin personally
Mostly language isn't part of the universal translator.
To selflessly donate their money to charitable and worthwhile causes.
This clip was taken from the Ferengi Alliance cut of the episode, if it helps.
@@commander144 Is that considered a racial slur? I'm legitimately curious and mildly amused if it is
"Collecting is STUPID! It doesn't make you happy! Your ships, Smell...Like *AAAAASS!!!* "
Collecting doesn’t make you happy! YOUR SHIPS SMELL LIKE ASSSSSS! Had me dead
The funniest part is just after this video when Boimler screams: "I failed the Kobayashi Maru seventeen times, motherf*cker!" 🤣
(After seeing Star Trek Prodigy)
Dal: Hold my coffee.
IYKYK
1:33 The way the Klingon woman looks at Boimler.
Boimler needs his own House of Quark episode.
Boimler can make Captain Kirk proud that day.
0:36 Those two are the same , bro .The one on the left is for daily use and the one on the right is for Ceremonial events .
I love how they fit all those throwbacks into one giant rant!
The voice of that gray alien cracks me up every time. Sounds like a voice you would hear in robot chicken
This scene was perfect, “we don’t want to protect you from the Klingons or the borg, we just want to study fucking quasars”
Boimler needed a win, and he took it
He didn't just take it. He owned it. Rode it and put it away wet.
He just told the Ferengi to (long censored) ..i fall over laughing my head off at that!
Boimler really spoke the truth here. Starfleet is the reason why so many alien races were discovered and are co-existing with other alien races. And they have saved the Galaxy from threats like the Borg, Dominion, and evil space entities.
Not to mention they save literally all the idiots bashing them here every other goddamned day because they touched something they shouldn't have.
Preach!
The line "we just want to study fucking quasars" always gets me. It really is what starfleet is actually about when you look at them.
Boims went full ARCHER mode.
In fact, it is an offense to a soldier by knocking down his insignia. In fact, those guys would go to prison for offending a lieutenant, captain, etc.
“That was my RANK PIP!!!!!!!”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Me: Ohhhhhhhhh shit you’ve done it now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the TOS alone, you see how many times the Enterprise had to take part in extremely important political missions, and saving the day to an universal scale from mysterious threats.
None would know about it since the logs made by the crew are probably never published by starfleet, but yeah, none of them would exist without it.
This was the best part of one of the better episodes. Biomler needs to let his inner demon out more often.
Nah. You gotta parse something like this out carefully. This is a gem to be polished slowly, rather than just passing it out.
Wow for once Biomler is in big trouble but despite that Mariner was able to sign up more people to join Starfleet which made Commander Ransom very happy. I think there's a hint at the end of that episode that suspect that Mariner will be thinking about joining the theif that she just met today if Ransom did kick her out of Starfleet in Season 3 finale.
In reality Bloimer basically get just a slap on the wrist with Ransom honestly proud of what he had done as probably the heckling happen every time and Starfleet need/must always act as the adult in the room and just take it from people that in the end are ungratefull karens as they were saved many many many times by them
@@lukedalton Make sense a Ransom seems to have a strong respect for Biomler especially after the Bridge Buddy episode so understandable he would let him off easy especially since it was that freak out that got people to sign up.
@@lukedalton Trumps.
The guy did always piss all over the Military or anyone who was selfless his entire life.
Yes, thank you for summarising the episode. Saves people a trip to Wikipedia, I guess.
Love the Klingon at 1:34 likely getting hot and bothered at Boimler's justified rage
Klingons love people who stand up for themselves.
Remember the Klingon Chef on DS9 and Lt. Pazlar?
Boimler laying out the truth! Power! 🤟
A bit 'money lenders in the temple for me', but, Boims, I'm right there with you. Exploring, finding, learning, right there with you.
Those base guys wore the same uniform as each other, for sake's sake! He's right to lose it front of hypocrisy.
I'm a little impressed by that barely-seen Vulcan woman's calm, I wonder if it was someone we meet later?
The outpost scientist isn't as smart as she thinks, starfleet is the space navy they observe a lot of what earths naval forces used to do so wearing a uniform is correct and essential.
I love Boimler this season. He’s a lot more confident and willing to put people in their place. Amazing character development for the Boimler.
boimler: ends in the brig from rage outburst
also boiler: gets people into starfleet thus acomplishing the objective
gets respect from everyone, namely brige staff
took a piss at many losers
got one more over mariner
Mission failed successfully
I have an actually seen this show only clips of it online but I gotta say I’m Vibin with this guy’s energy.
Now I'm curious what exactly Boimler said to the Ferengi behind all the censors
"Donate all your money to charities".
"Your lobes are small!"
@@raistlin3462 SIR. THIS IS A FAMILY SHOW. I NEED YOU TO STOP YOUR DEGENERACY.
who are feregnei again? Idk much of star trek.
who are feregnei again? Idk much of star trek.
1:35 a Klingon looking on in the background like she's impressed.
My favourite part in the episode to be honest, watched it several times over. Would love to hear the uncensored version.
I hope they make a behind the scenes comparison book like what they did for TNG and Voyager. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🙏🏻🙏🏻
I don't blame Boimler for losing it. He's always wanted to be a starship captain, and this civilian comes by and "demotes" him while laughing. I wouldn't be surprised if bullies from his hometown of Modesto did stuff like this to him because his family made raisins.
Someone tried to tell me once that Boimler didn't have repressed rage. I was like I'm sorry have you WATCHED the show?? HAHAHAHA gotta love him.
I love how this is a recurring theme with Lower Decks cast. Even Ryker and his hit squad bring it up.
They all just wanna run around and scan shiny things and map quasars. Sure blowing up badguys is fun but a lot of starfleet is legitimately unhappy with all the fighting they have to do. All the traps and snares and betrayals and romulan nonsense.
"We just want to scan quasars"
Mar says it, Tindy says it, Boimler, Ryker, The Captain says it.
Its oddly... Wholesome, that a lot of star fleet would be super happy being left alone to scan rocks and poke artifacts.
This is what happens when Boimler gos nuts when someone disrespect Starfleet. He should do this more often.
You don’t touch the rank pip. NEVER touch the rank pip.
"WE don't wanna protect you from Klingons and the Borg! We just wanna explore and study f***ing quasars!" Quaid's delivery is just brilliant!
Legendary
To explain why Boimler was enraged:
Forcibly ripping out rank insignia is one of the gravest acts that can be done against military personnel.
The *only* time it is a legitimate action is when the soldier is being dishonorably dismissed. By pulling out his pips, the Female Outpost Scientist effectively called Boimler equivalent to a murderer, rapist, coward or traitor.
Well, ok, except Starfleet isn't military!
@@ChevaliersEmeraude It is and always has been a military, even if one or two officers like to tell themselves that they're not.
The "not a military" thing was something from very early TNG that was quickly abandoned.
It always makes for a good show when the nice one snaps.
Boimler rules for standing up to those narks!!!
Boimler going ballistic was deeply cathartic. Also, considering the degree of actual fear and respect he managed to cultivate in just a few seconds, he's definitely meant for a captain's chair.
I have a little headcanon theory for Starfleet's military/non-military role: that Starfleet does set itself out as a non-military scientific agency, but all the cool quasars and nebulas and stuff always end up right next to hostile alien empires. So of course all the exploration ships need big guns on them to keep the scientists safe. And of course the Federation doesn't have a *military*, because they're against that kind of thing. But then when the Klingons or whatever attack you need to make do with what you got and, wouldn't ya know it, all the ships with big guns belong to the scientists and explorers.
So you just end up with centuries of flat refusal to actually establish a proper, dedicated military for purely utopian reasons, and it never backfires because the Federation has armed all the nerds to the teeth already. All because you can't just go out and scan a comet or do zero-G botany experiments without needing enough firepower to blow up a small moon.
"Cuz knowledge is power and f**k whoever says otherwise, we are the most knowledgeable here."
Pretty Much. Starfleet are frustrated Astronauts forced into a military role because everyone and theirbgrand ma wants a piece of Humanity after they successfully became a Space Faring Species right after they crawled out of a century of ruble caused by the Nuclear Wars that brought them to the edge of extinction. Humanity pulled in a century what too other species a millenia to achieve, it's why even the Klingons begrudgingly respect Starfleet.
You go f'n tell 'em, Boims!
Boimler’s inner beast is glorious to behold. Wow
Without Starfleet, Xindi would have destroyed the earth along with idea of a federation and Half the galaxy would be under Romulan control.
Exactly!
I bet Sisko had a similar outburst back when he was an ensign.
1:23 Standard Risians outfit: underwear
1:33 Klingon liking this
1:48 Rip TOS gorn action figure
The Doctor: "I haven't seen a crew this dysfunctional since the Cerritos."
I forgot how many times I have rewatched this scene😂😂😂
Never make a quiet person angry. Sometimes they are the most dangerous. 😂