What I love about Tony Iommi's signature series are the position of strap button on the SG horn! I hope they re-release Tony's old black SG with humbucker.
Nearly impossible as they wanted to sell out the remaining Gibson Iommi HB through the 10 years old "newer" Epiphone Iommi Custom (The one with big crosses, not the older ones). Though I agree with you, but I prefered the Cherry one on the Gibson Custom Shop version.
Epiphone is still a great in my opinion. Just wish they’d used different hardware like Seymour Duncan’s pickups in some of their models. I guess that’s why you modify a guitar to your liking yourself though lol 😂
Love them both. Would buy the Epiphone because it's more price correct IMO. And I'm a bit dismayed with Gibson and their BS in the market of late. Don't get me wrong I have a custom built SG and a 61 Ebony standard LP Epiphone as well. And I love them. As far as the strap button. I just don't like the way it looks and it spooks me about breakage potential. I like mine standard but then again as I said mine is custom built so neck dive is not an issue really.
Wow huge difference in tone and sound between those two.. you can tell a clear difference on the clean sound way more round and real sound on the Gibson SG , the Epi Sounded weak and trebly dang ,, Gibson will always be by far better than any epi .. sad but true my friends
I have a bit of a dilema here… EPIPHONE SG 61’ or EPIPHONE SG TONY IOMMI 2022? Which one would you buy? Despite the fact that one has the Gibson Burstbuckers 2 and 3, and the other one has Epiphone P90 plus…
you can hear the difference. the gibson is closer to the original sound. i was going to buy the 61 and the iommi but after hearing this, i will buy the epi 61 and wait, until i can get the iommi gibson.
Considering used SG’s are $900-1000 got that route. There is a noticeable difference in the weight and depth of the sound. Even on a phone you can hear it.
Both of them great with nice sounding pickups and really great sustain!!! Black Sabbath icon and a little bit louder and chunky the Gibson one!!! Never say die!!!
Does the Gibson sound better? Yes, of course it does, it's Gibson for god's sake. Is it $1,000 better? No, not at all, I'd recommend the Epiphone, especially if you're on a budget
Great video! I own the Gibson and it's so nice to play, very comfortable but still with a "meaty" neck. The guitar is so light and thin which makes it a joy to play, even when sitting down.
.I’ve got enough SGs So just watched this out of interest as I like Mr D’s videos .What I did like was the black Epiphone single P90 Les Paul hanging on the wall behind him👍I then spent 20 minutes on the phone to a very helpful PMT sales guy trying to find out what it is?? Dayan please don’t hang your own unavailable modified guitars up behind you for sales videos.Your a retail Chanel So everything should be available 👍😡🤣
That’s not a guitar Dagan’s modified. That’s the Epiphone Jared James Nichols signature ‘Old Glory’! Which is discontinued unfortunately, but you can get his new signature ‘Gold Glory’ at PMT! 🤘 We’ve had a few pre-owned Old Glory’s though our stores though, so keep an eye out on our website!
If I hadn't recently gotten the Epiphone 61' SG Std Cherry probably would have gotten this. However I do like prefer the block inlays rather than the dot inlays, just adds a more premium look. The Tony Iommi SG sounds amazing, but I'm really happy with my 61' SG. Epiphone have really been knocking it out of the park with their quality and range.
another feature I think the 61 has the "Epiphone LockTone Tune-O-Matic Bridge with Stopbar Tailpiece " opposed to the "Adjustable Wraparound " bridge. it may not need it but for those playing heavy strings the intonation limits might help.
Im usually a "just get the epi, the gibson doesn't worth it, too expensive" but here you can hear the obvious difference, the Gibson just sound godly. Sadly where I live is 100% impossible to get one. Same story for epi. Someday...
The Gibson Tony Iommi signature has a much hotter sound than the Epiphone. Most likely because the Gibson has a one piece body as opposed to a two piece for the Epiphone. In addition, the finish on the Gibson is far and above better than the finish on the Epiphone. I guess, it's the old adage, "You get What you pay for".
This old Gibson Les Paul devotee completely fell in love with the Epiphone. It just seems livelier than any Gibson SG I have played (and a John Birch). I think the electronics have a lot to do with it. It is also so much easier to throw around than my 2002 LPS.
Got one of these. Had to send the first one back due to the truss rod being cranked so tight at the factory that it cracked the laquer on the neck. Crazy back bow. 2nd one definitely needs a full setup, but i can do that.
The Epiphone is fantastic, I nearly bought one in Andertons last week, but wouldn't come close to Bax on price, probably buy 2nd hand, I have a really old Vintage SG, which I stuck a P90 in the neck, nice guitar, but I preferred this Epiphone.
@@felixthecat5152 From wikipedia: "The P-90 (sometimes written P90) is a single coil electric guitar pickup produced by Gibson since 1946." Did you see the term "single coil" in there?
@@felixthecat5152Except that they still hum. :-) But, they have a warmer, fuller tone than your traditional Strat-style single coil. I'm actually planning on installing them on a cheap guitar for just such a purpose.
Back in the day, when venues had shit wiring, fluorescent lights etc and everything was turned up to silly levels, single coils were noisy, but nowadays, much less of an issue, P90's are great, I have them in the neck of my Tele and SG.
I have the Gibson version, left handed. No regrets , Love the guitar! Being a Gibson I did change the pots to left handed but knew that going in. The Epiphone looks like a great substitute and in left handed comes with left hand pots. The neck feels a amazing, Yes it is a chunk of money but if you can do it , it is worth it not just because of the name on the back of the headstock. Now if I could only play like Dagan. Nice demo of both guitars!
@@PMTVUK The Gibson is lighter?! I got the Epiphone version and it feels like a toy, like the $200 Epiphone, which is what got me thinking maybe I need to upgrade to the Gibson, for that "Gibson quality feel" (plus better pickups). But maybe it's fine.
What I love about Tony Iommi's signature series are the position of strap button on the SG horn! I hope they re-release Tony's old black SG with humbucker.
Nearly impossible as they wanted to sell out the remaining Gibson Iommi HB through the 10 years old "newer" Epiphone Iommi Custom (The one with big crosses, not the older ones).
Though I agree with you, but I prefered the Cherry one on the Gibson Custom Shop version.
I just bought one two weeks ago. Keep your eye on Reverb and check Guitar Center.
I still noticed he was not letting the neck go, always grabbing it with the other hand when he let go. Makes me think still dives ..?
@@ThomasLI want one with the crosses so bad but literally 0 on the market can’t find em only monkeys
I couldn't stop worrying that the guitar was going to fall off the Blackstar.
Wow that must be the best sounding Epi SG I ever heard. It made me want to get one, it's such a charm!
You've never played the Epiphone modern figured Cutoms or prophecy Sg Models they are high end models..
@@mr.astrophysics9115 the problem with the prophecy is that they don't play very good
The way Dagen talks and bounces around makes him a real life caricature of a British rocker! He's awesome
I have the Gibson version, the neck is bigger than my Les Paul R8…it is BIG. Huge sounding guitar too.
Not gonna lie, I prefer the Epiphone
As soon I click the video, tons of hard and loud playing. I say to myself it has to be Dagan!! Yup! Hell yeah! Keep it up my friend!
Epiphone is still a great in my opinion. Just wish they’d used different hardware like Seymour Duncan’s pickups in some of their models. I guess that’s why you modify a guitar to your liking yourself though lol 😂
Love them both. Would buy the Epiphone because it's more price correct IMO. And I'm a bit dismayed with Gibson and their BS in the market of late. Don't get me wrong I have a custom built SG and a 61 Ebony standard LP Epiphone as well. And I love them. As far as the strap button. I just don't like the way it looks and it spooks me about breakage potential. I like mine standard but then again as I said mine is custom built so neck dive is not an issue really.
Wow huge difference in tone and sound between those two.. you can tell a clear difference on the clean sound way more round and real sound on the Gibson SG , the Epi Sounded weak and trebly dang ,, Gibson will always be by far better than any epi .. sad but true my friends
Because it's really hard to change Pups, not...
Idk for 1000+ USD, if it's really worth it if it's not using Gibson USA pick ups
To be expected the Gibson sounds better ... but to me the Epi sounds more Iommi.
I have a bit of a dilema here… EPIPHONE SG 61’ or EPIPHONE SG TONY IOMMI 2022? Which one would you buy? Despite the fact that one has the Gibson Burstbuckers 2 and 3, and the other one has Epiphone P90 plus…
you can hear the difference. the gibson is closer to the original sound. i was going to buy the 61 and the iommi but after hearing this, i will buy the epi 61 and wait, until i can get the iommi gibson.
Considering used SG’s are $900-1000 got that route. There is a noticeable difference in the weight and depth of the sound. Even on a phone you can hear it.
Both of them great with nice sounding pickups and really great sustain!!! Black Sabbath icon and a little bit louder and chunky the Gibson one!!! Never say die!!!
Not the best amp match. Better with a Marshall or blackstar el34 or orange. That amp is based on modern metal. That gibson is amazing. Just amazing.
Both sound great!
But would have sounded much better through a Laney, like Tony... =P
That was the original plan but we didn’t have time to get one in! Wounded! 😫
@@DaganWilkin Still a great video 👍
I particularly noticed the Gibson sounding better clean. Seemed like there was less difference with distortion.
Great video, You should do the Gibson and Epiphone Flying V next
How that Epiphone stand didn’t fall off the amp is a mystery.
It doesn't matter
Does the Gibson sound better? Yes, of course it does, it's Gibson for god's sake. Is it $1,000 better? No, not at all, I'd recommend the Epiphone, especially if you're on a budget
Epiphone’s steppin up their game !!!!
Bought this guitar the other day and love it, it’s my first every brand new guitar
I usually judge these comparisons by the smile on their face with each guitar. In this case there’s a clear winner
Tony + Dagan + Gibson + SG = one love !!!!)))
this whole time i thaught it was tommy ive listened to sabbath for years and known about him for years and im just finding out its tony
ON BEER
Great video! I own the Gibson and it's so nice to play, very comfortable but still with a "meaty" neck. The guitar is so light and thin which makes it a joy to play, even when sitting down.
Love the Guitar but HATE the price !
.I’ve got enough SGs So just watched this out of interest as I like Mr D’s videos .What I did like was the black Epiphone single P90 Les Paul hanging on the wall behind him👍I then spent 20 minutes on the phone to a very helpful PMT sales guy trying to find out what it is??
Dayan please don’t hang your own unavailable modified guitars up behind you for sales videos.Your a retail Chanel So everything should be available 👍😡🤣
That’s not a guitar Dagan’s modified. That’s the Epiphone Jared James Nichols signature ‘Old Glory’! Which is discontinued unfortunately, but you can get his new signature ‘Gold Glory’ at PMT! 🤘 We’ve had a few pre-owned Old Glory’s though our stores though, so keep an eye out on our website!
If I hadn't recently gotten the Epiphone 61' SG Std Cherry probably would have gotten this. However I do like prefer the block inlays rather than the dot inlays, just adds a more premium look. The Tony Iommi SG sounds amazing, but I'm really happy with my 61' SG. Epiphone have really been knocking it out of the park with their quality and range.
another feature I think the 61 has the "Epiphone LockTone Tune-O-Matic Bridge with Stopbar Tailpiece " opposed to the "Adjustable Wraparound " bridge. it may not need it but for those playing heavy strings the intonation limits might help.
0:26 I heard War Pigs
Oh yeah!
Naw im good!
Im usually a "just get the epi, the gibson doesn't worth it, too expensive" but here you can hear the obvious difference, the Gibson just sound godly. Sadly where I live is 100% impossible to get one. Same story for epi. Someday...
The Gibson Tony Iommi signature has a much hotter sound than the Epiphone. Most likely because the Gibson has a one piece body as opposed to a two piece for the Epiphone. In addition, the finish on the Gibson is far and above better than the finish on the Epiphone. I guess, it's the old adage, "You get What you pay for".
Got my first ever sg yesterday and it is the first ever guitar I've bought that right out of the box just felt like I've had it for years it's so nice
Better get on Caesar and Mark's Casting Couch if you think you're going to afford one.
It's too bad he always reviews these awesome guitars through a poor mans Marshall.
ROCK AND ROLL
This old Gibson Les Paul devotee completely fell in love with the Epiphone. It just seems livelier than any Gibson SG I have played (and a John Birch). I think the electronics have a lot to do with it. It is also so much easier to throw around than my 2002 LPS.
Lacquer and poly are not the same thing , they are two different finishes .
I wish Epiphone would put the same bevels as on the Gibsons. It looks so much better.
Got one of these. Had to send the first one back due to the truss rod being cranked so tight at the factory that it cracked the laquer on the neck. Crazy back bow. 2nd one definitely needs a full setup, but i can do that.
The Epiphone is fantastic, I nearly bought one in Andertons last week, but wouldn't come close to Bax on price, probably buy 2nd hand, I have a really old Vintage SG, which I stuck a P90 in the neck, nice guitar, but I preferred this Epiphone.
They both sound great but for value for money I'd take the Epiphone
Me: “I need a guitar with humbuckers”
Also me: 👀
0mg c# tune the babys nothing like a black sabbath sound
Jared James Nichols makes me want a guitar with P90s. I don't have an SG, so these are tempting.
Elvis was Rock!!!! But it's ok!
Proof you can make single coils sound like dinosaur roars.
They’re not single coils….
@@felixthecat5152 From wikipedia:
"The P-90 (sometimes written P90) is a single coil electric guitar pickup produced by Gibson since 1946."
Did you see the term "single coil" in there?
@@ogretattoo By direct definition I suppose they are SINGLE coils with a humbucker quality. You’re not gonna get that sound from a tele or a Strat.
@@felixthecat5152Except that they still hum. :-) But, they have a warmer, fuller tone than your traditional Strat-style single coil. I'm actually planning on installing them on a cheap guitar for just such a purpose.
Back in the day, when venues had shit wiring, fluorescent lights etc and everything was turned up to silly levels, single coils were noisy, but nowadays, much less of an issue, P90's are great, I have them in the neck of my Tele and SG.
Is It right that Epiphone SG hasn t a good clean sound?
I want this guitar. I need this guitar.
Sgs are badass just don't throw it
I have the Gibson version, left handed. No regrets , Love the guitar! Being a Gibson I did change the pots to left handed but knew that going in. The Epiphone looks like a great substitute and in left handed comes with left hand pots. The neck feels a amazing, Yes it is a chunk of money but if you can do it , it is worth it not just because of the name on the back of the headstock. Now if I could only play like Dagan. Nice demo of both guitars!
Sorry Typo meant Dagan 👍😎
I can see these being highly sought after, soon enough.
Love that Gibson Dean keep on rockin.
I have the Epiphone sg classic are they just sg's with p90s. And one or two cosmetic difference ?.
A better neck on the Iommi
Awesome.
What about noise? I heard p90 are noisy
Usually more noticeable with a lot of gain. A noise gate works extremely well with little to no tone loss.
COMO SUENA
I want an SG so badly! but sadly, I have a long way to go!
You'll get there brother!
Good demo 👍
What is the deference in weight??
Gibson is a little lighter, but not by much!
@@PMTVUK The Gibson is lighter?! I got the Epiphone version and it feels like a toy, like the $200 Epiphone, which is what got me thinking maybe I need to upgrade to the Gibson, for that "Gibson quality feel" (plus better pickups). But maybe it's fine.
I have a 1971 John Birch SG in my loft hahha. I need to get it running again
No you need to sell it to someone who doesn't shove it in the loft 😅