Seeing the world today, Tomorrow Never Dies was ahead of their times. Who had trough that the media and corporations would go ahead and profit with endless wars? Only Starship Troopers and Tomorrow Never Dies.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy The only issue with your commentary is that Heinlein and Bradbury argue in favour, not as a critic, even Bradbury divorce himself of his own work when he become a hardcore conservative, but then again, if you really read Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury is more worry about pesky wives and how troublesome the media was for critiquing in the government, even if the government was burning literal books.
Brosnan always looked like he hated sharing any scenes with her and Teri looked like she would rather be anywhere but on set. Their hatred towards each other shone through both their performances. A big plot point of the film fell flat because of poor stunt casting and a total lack of chemistry.
Your remark about how Carver doesn't have that one brutal scene is actually interesting because there is a deleted scene of him ordering Stamper to well, stamp a guy. But I think Carver is actually a good villain. Due to the fact that he's timeless and I think he does ooze charisma. Plus Pryce looks like he's having a blast as well.
Looking at Paris Carver's scenes, I can't help but see a missed opportunity: why isn't this character Sylvia Trench? In the first two films it was established that Sylvia and Bond have something of a relationship or at least a casual fling going on, but she's absent for the rest of the series. Wouldn't it have been cool to reintroduce that character to the series?
Tomorrow Never Lies is a better name, because Tomorrow is the newspaper and since Carver dies at the end it presumably dies with him. But it not lying makes sense because Carver is making the bad news that he is reporting.
I thought "Dies" made sense because Tomorrow (the newspaper) represents news media that prioritizes ratings over integrity, which sadly didn't die with Carver
@eating sugar no papa true but that just makes it harder to remmber because you have Live and Let Die Die Another Day Licence to Kill A View to a Kill Living Daylights You Only Live Twice. Things like Octopussy or Quantum of Solace or Moonraker might be weird but are memorable. Or just the villains name like Dr No or Goldfinger
That’s putting it mildly. He was upset the moment he found out Monica Belluci wasn’t playing Paris Carver. I can’t blame him. She would’ve been vastly superior to Teri Hatcher and would’ve helped sell the role better. Teri is totally ordinary and not exotic in any way. This worked for Lois and Clark but not as a woman Bond still cared about about tossing her aside. Bond wouldn’t give two shits about her. If he were going to miss anyone, it’d be someone far more interesting and exotic like Octopussy, Anya Amasova or Melina Havelock. Even Natalya Simonova would take priority over someone who looks like she worked at a perfume shop.
natalya as carver's wife would have been a terrible idea. there is no way her character would have ever hooked up with a character like carver. a believable former bond girl in that role may have been kara milovy.
If u control the news u control the world this type of villain is great smart and rich full of himself this guy sent a hit on his wife that's pure heartless every villain is not a fighter some are so ambitious and smart.
Maybe Teri Hatcher is the perfect Bond girl for the Brosnan era. Arguably both were picked for their roles based on their looks, and popularity. Couple that with the fact that neither seems better than okay with their acting. Maybe Paris was some stuck up hat check girl he shacked up with on a drunken binge, and feels bad about using her. Wait...is this movie really so bad that I'm pulling a Homer Simpson and making up my own story for it?
She was an original choice for Paris and ended up being one of the worse Bond women in the series. Teri Hatcher and Pierce Brosnan couldn’t stand each other on set. Monica Bellucci was an original choice and Pierce preferred her but producers cast Hatcher instead. Monica Bellucci ended playing Bond girl Lucia in Spectre with Daniel Craig
I think M is just like poking into Bond's weakness in that scene when asked to pump Paris for information. Remember she was the other paramour of Bond aside from Tracy who had one of the most tragic endings in Bond Movie history before Craig's reboot of Casino Royale where Vesper dies.
Really good critique on casting. I must admit your put down of Hatcher isn't as vicious as I remember, (then again I've seen this review the least) but still it's just as funny.
This entry was OK, Brosnan is comfortable in the role and Michelle Yeoh is great in the action scenes, but there were already conflicts between Brosnan and the producers that portended what would happen during development of his last two movies. The script went through multiple rewrites to the point that Anthony Hopkins dropped out as the vilian, Brosnan understandably wasn't happy, but he was portrayed as being difficult. Also Terri Hatcher was cast when he wanted Monica Bellucci instead. Completely boneheaded decision in casting Hatcher.
Was disappointed in Tomorrow Never Dies which was as predictable as hell - until the titles went up and you get K D Lang belt out that tune. Can't keep a good lezza down..
Teri Hatcher wasn’t an original choice for Paris, one of the choices was Monica Bellucci who ended up playing Bond girl Lucia in Spectre and was one of the oldest Bond girls in the series and older then Daniel Craig.
I liked this movie the stunts were great and humor good. It was prescient in its warning of the media and the drill reminds me of the Star Trek movie! On the other hand Michelle Yeoh has zero chemistry with Brosnan. Exactly they're partners. That one HALO scene took my breath away.
And Teri has no chemistry, period. It's a shame, I prefer the movies where the Bond and his leading lady have chemistry. Service is one of my favourite Bonds, despite the inexperience of Lazenby.
You need a high caliber Aussie actress such as Cate Blanchett to convincingly portray an American. This is the direness created from the dearth of domestic talent, then and now!
The original screenplay for this movie was vastly superior. The plot had a huge focus on the Hong Kong handover and the plot was much more substantial. The locations were also superior. It had the potential to be as good or better than Goldeneye. Sadly, this all was scrapped because EON wanted to play things safe and decided to scrap everything because they worried about how the film would do if the handover didn’t go well. I feel this was a huge mistake as the benefits outweighed the risks and the film would be far more entertaining and would make up for any possibility of issues if the hand over didn’t go well. It would’ve also held up better in posterity as a period piece. What we got instead is essentially The Spy Who Loved Me only way stripped down and lackluster. This excessive desire to play things safe sadly continued into the next 2 movies, culminating in 3 of the worst movies of the series. Thankfully things really picked up again with the Daniel Craig era. The plots aren’t always great but the movies manage to be entertaining and engaging. They take risks and typically subvert expectations rather than just cater to them without much creativity.
Shoot me but I think Brosnan's best is TOMORROW NEVER DIES. GOLDENEYE was arguably a smarter film but it was also a cheat; it just repacked many old cliches with a tad more self awareness. TND works better because Brosnan takes command to the best of his ability, the stunts are far more creative, the plot was a tad better, and it doesn't pretend to me any more than one it is. As for the last two Brosnan Bonds, TWINE turned the principal characters into pussies and DAD was just awful.
@eating sugar no papa "The World Is Not Enough" is one of the worst films ever made. It's shockingly atrocious. You have the worst taste ever when it comes to Bond.
Great analysis video on a hit and miss Bond film. Great point about having Natalya as the Paris Carver character instead of Teri whatsherface. What a seriously missed opportunity that was!!!!!! Overall TND is a meh Bond film for me. It has a lot of great things going for it but it has so much wasted potential. Which is ironic since this was the first Bond film that I saw when I was a kid and it was what got me into the series. Strangely enough.
I honestly think that Tomorrow Never Dies is better than GoldenEye. It has a better theme, better action, but the plot is still about the same Calibre as GoldenEye.
How does Wai Lin know where the devonshire is? Mr Gupta’s encoder incorrectly reported the location of it to the British, not the Chinese. So their location was always correct. Thats what I assumed
Tomorrow Never Dies is the last one in the franchise that feels like a Bond film and the last one in the franchise that I like. Subsequent Bond movies all feel like unofficial Bond movies, pretenders to the throne and absolutely god-awful.
Carver didn't send Paris - she went on her own accord. Oops. And you're right, Paris isn't Tracy. And she isn't that special. Hence why he didn't stay with her.
Tomorrow Never Dies is very Moonraker like. With the the bulk of the film being the baddie's henchmen try to kill Bond and Bond out running them. There is almost no down time. Unlike say Thinderball where Bond has time some fun or Quantum of Solace were he gets a bit of heart to heart chat with the girl.
Your comments on the chicks is strange. It would be nice, you suggest if we could see what Bond does with the girls he hooks up with at the end of each show. How does he pump and dump them? What does she think? Who cares. Having to listen to a chick whine about being dumped when the 'relationship' she thought was unfolding turned out to be only a fling, is not my idea of something I am ever interested in hearing. Especially, I don't want to PAY for it. As for Terri Hatcher, I totally agree. That being said, there are a lot of chicks in Bond films who simply can't act, and yet their scenes--sadly--did not get left on the cutting room floor.
He was suggesting to do this with this one movie, use a Bond girl we actually know instead of Hatcher (seeing as they have a history in the movie but the audience us told but doesn't get to experience it) in order to delve deeper into Bonds character. Seems pretty interesting to me.
k.d. lang was a Lesbian and the producers got scared, in case it caused backlash. That's why her song was never used for the main theme. How times have changed ,
Wei Lin is a Mary Sue. She could do everything better than Bond without breaking a sweat. There was a lot of pandering to the female audience in this film. Bond even says "never argue with a woman, they're always right" at the end.
Wai Lin is on equal footing with Bond and it makes sense since she's a spy as well. Also, she does get captured (twice) and Bond has to save her. She's no Mary Sue, just a badass
And of course you use the term Mary Sue to act like this is some kind of a bad thing. Listen, I don't love this film, but a character just being a complete bad ass isn't a problem. You just heard the term Mary Sue and you like to use it as much as you can. It's cute. But get over it. Seriously.
Why watch then? I enjoy critiques of movies I watched (and those I didn't) but if it's not your thing, that's fine, just watch sth. else. It's not like everyone will cater to your personal taste, is it? So if you expect that I see a lot of disappointment in your life.
I think some Bond fans get tired of the eternal retreads of the same formula and would like the odd movie with a more interesting spin. Some don't. Both seem fair.
Seeing the world today, Tomorrow Never Dies was ahead of their times. Who had trough that the media and corporations would go ahead and profit with endless wars? Only Starship Troopers and Tomorrow Never Dies.
And _RoboCop,_ and anything by Heinlein, Orwell, or Bradbury, and even a few Kafka stories.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy The only issue with your commentary is that Heinlein and Bradbury argue in favour, not as a critic, even Bradbury divorce himself of his own work when he become a hardcore conservative, but then again, if you really read Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury is more worry about pesky wives and how troublesome the media was for critiquing in the government, even if the government was burning literal books.
"Paris, played by Teri Hatcher. She's terrible."
LMFAO I couldn't have said it better myself!
Brosnan always looked like he hated sharing any scenes with her and Teri looked like she would rather be anywhere but on set. Their hatred towards each other shone through both their performances. A big plot point of the film fell flat because of poor stunt casting and a total lack of chemistry.
Brosnan should be brought back as BOND!!!!
i love The Brosnan Age Tomorrow never Dies 1997
Your remark about how Carver doesn't have that one brutal scene is actually interesting because there is a deleted scene of him ordering Stamper to well, stamp a guy. But I think Carver is actually a good villain. Due to the fact that he's timeless and I think he does ooze charisma. Plus Pryce looks like he's having a blast as well.
billa107 I think he needed one scene where he goes full psycho. Kind of like where Christoph Waltz strangles Diane Kruger in Inglorious Bastards.
Looking at Paris Carver's scenes, I can't help but see a missed opportunity: why isn't this character Sylvia Trench? In the first two films it was established that Sylvia and Bond have something of a relationship or at least a casual fling going on, but she's absent for the rest of the series. Wouldn't it have been cool to reintroduce that character to the series?
Tomorrow Never Lies is a better name, because Tomorrow is the newspaper and since Carver dies at the end it presumably dies with him. But it not lying makes sense because Carver is making the bad news that he is reporting.
Toad Lash Imagine if Tommorow Never Lies was the tagline for Carver's news network!
Awesome idea
I thought "Dies" made sense because Tomorrow (the newspaper) represents news media that prioritizes ratings over integrity, which sadly didn't die with Carver
@@Betta66 well that's true. But that's been the case for decades
@eating sugar no papa true but that just makes it harder to remmber because you have Live and Let Die Die Another Day Licence to Kill A View to a Kill Living Daylights You Only Live Twice.
Things like Octopussy or Quantum of Solace or Moonraker might be weird but are memorable. Or just the villains name like Dr No or Goldfinger
"How many times can you incorporate the word "Die" in the title?" oh the irony of that statement
That BMW was pretty cool!!!
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I love the old time stock car sound effect you have running here and the redub timing is perfect. -- AT
I think TND is a strong bond film that aged well, if u wanted to get someone into the bond series this is a go to checks all the right boxes
I liked the opening song.
The best thing about the movie
Here's a fun fact: Hatcher and Brosnan didn't get along behind the scenes.
You can tell can't you?!
That’s putting it mildly. He was upset the moment he found out Monica Belluci wasn’t playing Paris Carver. I can’t blame him. She would’ve been vastly superior to Teri Hatcher and would’ve helped sell the role better. Teri is totally ordinary and not exotic in any way. This worked for Lois and Clark but not as a woman Bond still cared about about tossing her aside. Bond wouldn’t give two shits about her. If he were going to miss anyone, it’d be someone far more interesting and exotic like Octopussy, Anya Amasova or Melina Havelock. Even Natalya Simonova would take priority over someone who looks like she worked at a perfume shop.
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"Yeah Paris is dead... but this car is fun!! :D"
I doubt Natalia Simonova would go anywhere near Carver, so that story idea wouldn't work.
I love mr stamper, he's a great side villian
he's a shittier version of red grant or necros.
@@doaftheloaf Stamper is way better than lame Necros. He's also tougher than Grant.
We need Brozza back. In a Never say never again style outing if need be !
natalya as carver's wife would have been a terrible idea. there is no way her character would have ever hooked up with a character like carver.
a believable former bond girl in that role may have been kara milovy.
If u control the news u control the world this type of villain is great smart and rich full of himself this guy sent a hit on his wife that's pure heartless every villain is not a fighter some are so ambitious and smart.
Maybe Teri Hatcher is the perfect Bond girl for the Brosnan era. Arguably both were picked for their roles based on their looks, and popularity. Couple that with the fact that neither seems better than okay with their acting. Maybe Paris was some stuck up hat check girl he shacked up with on a drunken binge, and feels bad about using her. Wait...is this movie really so bad that I'm pulling a Homer Simpson and making up my own story for it?
She was an original choice for Paris and ended up being one of the worse Bond women in the series. Teri Hatcher and Pierce Brosnan couldn’t stand each other on set. Monica Bellucci was an original choice and Pierce preferred her but producers cast Hatcher instead. Monica Bellucci ended playing Bond girl Lucia in Spectre with Daniel Craig
I like to watch James Bond movies
I think M is just like poking into Bond's weakness in that scene when asked to pump Paris for information. Remember she was the other paramour of Bond aside from Tracy who had one of the most tragic endings in Bond Movie history before Craig's reboot of Casino Royale where Vesper dies.
Another excellent presentation. Thought that Arnold's score deserved more discussion though.
35:38 Actually Wai Lin sets off the alarms. Bond would have been in and out if she didn't drill the door.
Steve Jobs best bond villan ever!
Really good critique on casting. I must admit your put down of Hatcher isn't as vicious as I remember, (then again I've seen this review the least) but still it's just as funny.
I felt like the setpieces of Goldeneye and Die Another Day were memorable
This entry was OK, Brosnan is comfortable in the role and Michelle Yeoh is great in the action scenes, but there were already conflicts between Brosnan and the producers that portended what would happen during development of his last two movies. The script went through multiple rewrites to the point that Anthony Hopkins dropped out as the vilian, Brosnan understandably wasn't happy, but he was portrayed as being difficult. Also Terri Hatcher was cast when he wanted Monica Bellucci instead. Completely boneheaded decision in casting Hatcher.
Was disappointed in Tomorrow Never Dies which was as predictable as hell - until the titles went up and you get K D Lang belt out that tune. Can't keep a good lezza down..
Some aren't ie Casino Royale. But this one is exceptionally predictable
What would have made the film better would have Teri hatcher be re cast as the character Sylvia Trench from the first two Bond movies.
Teri Hatcher wasn’t an original choice for Paris, one of the choices was Monica Bellucci who ended up playing Bond girl Lucia in Spectre and was one of the oldest Bond girls in the series and older then Daniel Craig.
@@scottknode898 hatcher is better looking
herb petrillo I agree Teri Hatcher is better looking
Monica Belluci ended up being a Bond girl with Daniel Craig in Spectre 😉
Would have been better suited in this role
I liked this movie the stunts were great and humor good. It was prescient in its warning of the media and the drill reminds me of the Star Trek movie! On the other hand Michelle Yeoh has zero chemistry with Brosnan. Exactly they're partners. That one HALO scene took my breath away.
And Teri has no chemistry, period. It's a shame, I prefer the movies where the Bond and his leading lady have chemistry. Service is one of my favourite Bonds, despite the inexperience of Lazenby.
I saw more sexual chemistry between Brosnan and Christina Hendricks, less than a minute's worth, than I would ever see between Bros and Hatcher.
You need a high caliber Aussie actress such as Cate Blanchett to convincingly portray an American. This is the direness created from the dearth of domestic talent, then and now!
MI6 and M should have known about Paris's death to on the news and checked with Bond too..
good stuff. keep on!
The original screenplay for this movie was vastly superior. The plot had a huge focus on the Hong Kong handover and the plot was much more substantial. The locations were also superior. It had the potential to be as good or better than Goldeneye. Sadly, this all was scrapped because EON wanted to play things safe and decided to scrap everything because they worried about how the film would do if the handover didn’t go well. I feel this was a huge mistake as the benefits outweighed the risks and the film would be far more entertaining and would make up for any possibility of issues if the hand over didn’t go well. It would’ve also held up better in posterity as a period piece. What we got instead is essentially The Spy Who Loved Me only way stripped down and lackluster. This excessive desire to play things safe sadly continued into the next 2 movies, culminating in 3 of the worst movies of the series. Thankfully things really picked up again with the Daniel Craig era. The plots aren’t always great but the movies manage to be entertaining and engaging. They take risks and typically subvert expectations rather than just cater to them without much creativity.
I actually didn't know this story. I totally agree with you.
Love to see your take on "ENTRAPMENT" / Connery.
Shoot me but I think Brosnan's best is TOMORROW NEVER DIES. GOLDENEYE was arguably a smarter film but it was also a cheat; it just repacked many old cliches with a tad more self awareness. TND works better because Brosnan takes command to the best of his ability, the stunts are far more creative, the plot was a tad better, and it doesn't pretend to me any more than one it is. As for the last two Brosnan Bonds, TWINE turned the principal characters into pussies and DAD was just awful.
Your opinion! I understand what you mean
TWINE tries to be "the thinking mans Bond" but fails. If you want to be a smart film you get judged as such.
@eating sugar no papa
"The World Is Not Enough" is one of the worst films ever made. It's shockingly atrocious. You have the worst taste ever when it comes to Bond.
Pretty good up to and including the scenes in Germany, after that it becomes a straight to Dvd quality movie
Great analysis video on a hit and miss Bond film. Great point about having Natalya as the Paris Carver character instead of Teri whatsherface. What a seriously missed opportunity that was!!!!!! Overall TND is a meh Bond film for me. It has a lot of great things going for it but it has so much wasted potential. Which is ironic since this was the first Bond film that I saw when I was a kid and it was what got me into the series. Strangely enough.
I honestly think that Tomorrow Never Dies is better than GoldenEye. It has a better theme, better action, but the plot is still about the same Calibre as GoldenEye.
This movie contains the worst and one of the best Bond girls.
How does Wai Lin know where the devonshire is? Mr Gupta’s encoder incorrectly reported the location of it to the British, not the Chinese. So their location was always correct. Thats what I assumed
Tomorrow Never Dies is the last one in the franchise that feels like a Bond film and the last one in the franchise that I like. Subsequent Bond movies all feel like unofficial Bond movies, pretenders to the throne and absolutely god-awful.
What about skyfall
Carver didn't send Paris - she went on her own accord. Oops.
And you're right, Paris isn't Tracy. And she isn't that special. Hence why he didn't stay with her.
Tomorrow Never Dies is very Moonraker like. With the the bulk of the film being the baddie's henchmen try to kill Bond and Bond out running them. There is almost no down time. Unlike say Thinderball where Bond has time some fun or Quantum of Solace were he gets a bit of heart to heart chat with the girl.
It should have been Sylvia Trench....instead of Paris.
Your comments on the chicks is strange. It would be nice, you suggest if we could see what Bond does with the girls he hooks up with at the end of each show. How does he pump and dump them? What does she think? Who cares. Having to listen to a chick whine about being dumped when the 'relationship' she thought was unfolding turned out to be only a fling, is not my idea of something I am ever interested in hearing. Especially, I don't want to PAY for it. As for Terri Hatcher, I totally agree. That being said, there are a lot of chicks in Bond films who simply can't act, and yet their scenes--sadly--did not get left on the cutting room floor.
He was suggesting to do this with this one movie, use a Bond girl we actually know instead of Hatcher (seeing as they have a history in the movie but the audience us told but doesn't get to experience it) in order to delve deeper into Bonds character. Seems pretty interesting to me.
First scene was made in Thailand not Vietnam.
Stop or my mom will shoot! Really? This is the only Bond movie I couldn’t sit through! No wonder, look at who the fucking director was!
k.d. lang was a Lesbian and the producers got scared, in case it caused backlash. That's why her song was never used for the main theme. How times have changed ,
Yeah today that would be a huge reason to go for it nowadays! Just look at the Eurovision songfestival ....
I don’t know why…but back in the day…I thought Marilyn Manson (in full make up) would have been kick ass in Jonathan Price’s role 😅
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it sounds from your critiques that you don't really like the bond series that much.
doaftheloaf
Criticising sth. doesn't mean hating it. Plus there's so many Bond movies there's bound to be a few duds.
The loud mouth of Ted Turner+Yellow journalism of Rupert Murdoch
= Elliot Carver
Devonshire. Not Devonjur.
Pierce Brosnan was superb in TND & the film is still great fun. THIS review is terrible
Cry
I agree.i dont get how anyone can rag on teri hatcher....shes easily one of the top 5 best looking bond women ever...this guy rags in her....smh
Mantap
Carver dose shoot his computer hacker at the end
goldeneye review blocked in the uk
It's blocked everywhere by TH-cam. It's still available to watch on my website.
@@HaphazardStuff Fair use is a myth on TH-cam.
Watched and enjoyed but I'm legit put off by the sexism throughout (your video).
I disagree with almost every sillable you utter. We should get married 🤣🤣🤣
Wei Lin is a Mary Sue. She could do everything better than Bond without breaking a sweat. There was a lot of pandering to the female audience in this film. Bond even says "never argue with a woman, they're always right" at the end.
Wai Lin is on equal footing with Bond and it makes sense since she's a spy as well. Also, she does get captured (twice) and Bond has to save her. She's no Mary Sue, just a badass
And of course you use the term Mary Sue to act like this is some kind of a bad thing. Listen, I don't love this film, but a character just being a complete bad ass isn't a problem. You just heard the term Mary Sue and you like to use it as much as you can. It's cute. But get over it. Seriously.
Fortress Europa she’s not a Mary Sue
What a dull video, why do I want to hear how much you didn't like a movie?
Why watch then? I enjoy critiques of movies I watched (and those I didn't) but if it's not your thing, that's fine, just watch sth. else. It's not like everyone will cater to your personal taste, is it? So if you expect that I see a lot of disappointment in your life.
I dunno who was a big fan of Natalya. I feel like Xenia was probably overshadowed her because of her stupid amateurish gimmick
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I think u think too much brother, movies are fun, critics are useless
I don't expect or want Bond girls to have depth. I don't want Bond or the franchise to be "politically correct".
I think some Bond fans get tired of the eternal retreads of the same formula and would like the odd movie with a more interesting spin. Some don't. Both seem fair.
Scriptwise this is the weakest of Brosnans Bondmovies However its not ridiculous as Die Another Day.
This film was in 1998 not 1997
It was released in December 1997.
Irfan R. It was released December of 1997 and filmed in 1996. The World is not enough was filmed in 1998 for its release in 1999
Film ini kenp seperti di ceritakan yah tidak seperti film Aslinya
You deserve all the dislikes. ;)
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