I love the emphasize of how the whole community is celebrating the Sabbath at the same time, together. It says so much about the heart of the film in one scene.
It also how Shabbat works. Candle lighting takes place in a specific window during sundown. Orthodox always light candles during that time frame, although reform and conservative tend to have a greater range.
It says alot about how God works. How Judaism fulfilled by Catholicism works. Unity is a constant theme in the Bible. One Lord, One shephard, one Faith, One Body........
May the Lord protect and defend you. May He always shield you from shame. May you come to be In Israel a shining name. May you be like Ruth and like Esther. May you be deserving of praise. Strengthen them, Oh Lord, And keep them from the strangers' ways. May God bless you and grant you long lives. (May the Lord fulfill our Sabbath prayer for you.) May God make you good mothers and wives. (May He send you husbands who will care for you.) May the Lord protect and defend you. May the Lord preserve you from pain. Favor them, Oh Lord, with happiness and peace. Oh, hear our Sabbath prayer. Amen.
So.... my first time seeing Fiddler on the Roof was a VERY sensored version of the play. My niece's dance class played it and they made the man Chava married into a scholar woman her age and they were just good friends. If you remember there was the scene where Chava begs her father to give them a blessing but he walks away, not ready to do so. They played it SO dramatically and I just turned to look at my niece's mother (my sister), and asked what was that. She told me the real version. And they're lucky it was just a dress rehearsal because I just yelled into the auditorium: 'THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS STORY?? THEY JUST EARESED THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY!' (P.s. The eldest actress, who was a professional, heard that from backstage peeked her head out to yell: 'I LOVE YOU!' at me and my niece gave me thumbs up while leaving the stage. My evening was made).
0:54 "May you be like Ruth and like Esther." Ruth left her home for her betrothed. Esther was married (against her will) to a Gentile. Hodel left Anatevka for Siberia for her betrothed. Doubtful she ever saw her family again. Chava married a Gentile (by her will). Doubtful she ever saw her family again. Ironic prayer.
Ruth was a widow when she left her people (the Moabites). She became the great grandmother of King David and the Davidic Dynasty. Esther's position allowed her to save her people from genocide.
@@AdmiralNuke Hodel married a communist and Chava married out of the faith. They are not heroines to the Jewish people. Indeed, they are enemies to the Jewish people, when you think about it.
@@AdmiralNuke Yeah, I know, but my connections between Ruth & Hodel and Esther & Chava are the only ones that actually compare. Clearly, Hodel is not the great-grandmother of David and Chava did not save her people from genocide, so I don't know why Ruth and Esther were referenced, in the context.
🫢 Never made that connection before! The camera focuses on Perchik when they say 'strangers and ways' and focuses on Motel when they say 'good husbands..'
I have a friend that lives on the West Bank. Both of his grandparents were Russian Jews that escaped to Israel 1948(?). Today I received a post on how everything is in turmoil. USA Third World Nation can never match the beauty of this story/movie
she is ushering the messiah to be the true light of the sabbath in their home. orthodox have strictly defined roles for men and women. it is the woman's place to usher in the messiah. from genesis 3:And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring[a] and hers; he will crush[b] your head, and you will strike his heel.” the offspring of the woman will have power to crush the head of the serpent. so they were looking for the messiah who would come from a woman. also, for example, lineage is traced to the woman, because you always know who the mother is.
@@bennywolfe4357 you don't have many logical choices in understanding the scripture i quoted. it refers to mary as the catholics believe or it refers to the savior of all mankind as some other people believe all the old testament refers to man's sin nature and how god saves mankind through his messiah. look again at genesis 3.15 king james version: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; IT shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. the king james is very emphatic. notice the verse is translated: IT shall bruise thy head. what does the word IT refer to? the word IT cannot refer to mary. mary is not an IT. mary is a she. IT can refer to enmity, except enmity has no power. The word IT thus refers to the seed of the woman. IT shall bruise thy head is a metaphor that means the seed of the woman shall bruise the head of satan. when did the the seed of the woman bruise the head of the serpent? jesus bruised the head of the serpent on the cross. common sense says you can't "change horses in the middle of the stream". that means you don't give one understanding to the bible and then a completely different understanding to all the traditions surrounding hassidic judasism. that means if you understand the bible to be about the seperation of mankind from god due to man's sin nature, you have to bring the same understanding to the traditions of the jews. so when you asked me for the source i can point to some rabbi someplace at some time who has said the same thing. but it still wouldn't mean a thing to you, would it. the plain simple fact is that the roles of jewish men and jewish men have been strictly defined for a good long time. as for example, when it comes time to recognize the jewishness of a baby. his heritage comes from the mother. if the mother is jewish the baby is jewish. that comes from the simple basic expedient of, "you always know who the mother is". if you talk to jews about the passover you will doubtless find jews who say it means nothing. other jews will talk endlessly about why they do certain things and what it all refers to. so who's correct? if it means nothing to you it means nothing. if it means something to you it means something. i really can't give a clearer understanding. if you don't want to believe that the woman has been set aside to usher in the light of the passover sabbath, the true light which is the messiah, that's your choice. i have no interest in what you believe the passover means without putting the messiah in his proper place.
I love the emphasize of how the whole community is celebrating the Sabbath at the same time, together. It says so much about the heart of the film in one scene.
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It also how Shabbat works. Candle lighting takes place in a specific window during sundown. Orthodox always light candles during that time frame, although reform and conservative tend to have a greater range.
I do love the heart of your comment though ❤❤❤❤ Thank you for seeing the beauty ❤️❤️❤️❤️
It says alot about how God works. How Judaism fulfilled by Catholicism works. Unity is a constant theme in the Bible. One Lord, One shephard, one Faith, One Body........
@@hmm7204 catholic is based in pagan babylonian worship.
Chaim Topol! Rest in Peace!
Amen.
This is my ABSOLUTE favorite movie. I have loved it for years. Turns out that my father's family were Ashkenazi. I am Blessed.
Beautifully depicted story.
I have watched the movie so many times, the DVD actually cracked. I have the 3rd copy of this beloved movie.
I love this movie, remember watching it as a child
This movie is just so beautiful
Moving and beautiful every time I see it, no matter how many times. ❤️
Yes!!!!❤
May the Lord protect and defend you.
May He always shield you from shame.
May you come to be
In Israel a shining name.
May you be like Ruth and like Esther.
May you be deserving of praise.
Strengthen them, Oh Lord,
And keep them from the strangers' ways.
May God bless you and grant you long lives.
(May the Lord fulfill our Sabbath prayer for you.)
May God make you good mothers and wives.
(May He send you husbands who will care for you.)
May the Lord protect and defend you.
May the Lord preserve you from pain.
Favor them, Oh Lord, with happiness and peace.
Oh, hear our Sabbath prayer.
Amen.
Food
Amen.
1:39 - I will never not appreciate Motel's look of loving tenderness in that moment
makes me cry every time
Beautiful.
So.... my first time seeing Fiddler on the Roof was a VERY sensored version of the play. My niece's dance class played it and they made the man Chava married into a scholar woman her age and they were just good friends.
If you remember there was the scene where Chava begs her father to give them a blessing but he walks away, not ready to do so.
They played it SO dramatically and I just turned to look at my niece's mother (my sister), and asked what was that.
She told me the real version.
And they're lucky it was just a dress rehearsal because I just yelled into the auditorium: 'THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS STORY?? THEY JUST EARESED THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY!'
(P.s. The eldest actress, who was a professional, heard that from backstage peeked her head out to yell: 'I LOVE YOU!' at me and my niece gave me thumbs up while leaving the stage. My evening was made).
Food
0:54 "May you be like Ruth and like Esther." Ruth left her home for her betrothed. Esther was married (against her will) to a Gentile. Hodel left Anatevka for Siberia for her betrothed. Doubtful she ever saw her family again. Chava married a Gentile (by her will). Doubtful she ever saw her family again. Ironic prayer.
Ruth was a widow when she left her people (the Moabites). She became the great grandmother of King David and the Davidic Dynasty. Esther's position allowed her to save her people from genocide.
@@AdmiralNuke Hodel married a communist and Chava married out of the faith. They are not heroines to the Jewish people. Indeed, they are enemies to the Jewish people, when you think about it.
@@renshiwu305 I was referring to the women mentioned in the prayer, not hodel or chava.
@@AdmiralNuke Yeah, I know, but my connections between Ruth & Hodel and Esther & Chava are the only ones that actually compare. Clearly, Hodel is not the great-grandmother of David and Chava did not save her people from genocide, so I don't know why Ruth and Esther were referenced, in the context.
🫢 Never made that connection before! The camera focuses on Perchik when they say 'strangers and ways' and focuses on Motel when they say 'good husbands..'
rest in peace norma crane , who was dying already during the filming.
Amen.
Shabbat Shalom.
Beautiful!
This was supposed to be 1905 in Kiev so sad to know what was coming in 1940 😢
At least their family makes it out and gets to America!
Though, tragically, their story is fictional and many thousands of families did not.
And the Russian Revolution in 1917. They were really lucky to get out as Russia started to decline and the pograms against Jews worsened.
Don't forget what happened then and still going on in occupied PALESTINE
@mises fan page they're comparing what's currently happening to what happened then
Shalom
I have a friend that lives on the West Bank. Both of his grandparents were Russian Jews that escaped to Israel 1948(?). Today I received a post on how everything is in turmoil. USA Third World Nation can never match the beauty of this story/movie
😇SABBATHPRAYER😇
What happened on October 7, ‘23 was a modern pogrom.
Maravilloso film🙏🏽
How could they credits under the poster for this magnificent musical omit the composers?!😮 Jerry Bock (music) Sheldon Harnick(lyrics)
Shalom everyone
Shalom unto you
RIP, Topol!
Amen.
Amen
It's too bad the volume is so low.
Awesome
add dude!!!!!
the guy from Starsky and Hutch..1.13
@@fireandice6805, Marx was older, however Perchik was written as a character influenced by Marx.
@@fireandice6805, agreed!
They should have included Hutch in this film.
I grew up Mormon and this was the same thing! same story! can you relate?
The stink 👀 Goldie gave perchick.
Baruch dayan ha'emmet...
What's wrong with the sound?
what and why wife of Teyve means un the way she wave her hand in candles?
she is ushering the messiah to be the true light of the sabbath in their home.
orthodox have strictly defined roles for men and women. it is the woman's place to usher in the messiah.
from genesis 3:And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
the offspring of the woman will have power to crush the head of the serpent. so they were looking for the messiah who would come from a woman.
also, for example, lineage is traced to the woman, because you always know who the mother is.
@@longnamenocansayy is genesis 3 connected to the messiah? What’s your source?
@@bennywolfe4357 you don't have many logical choices in understanding the scripture i quoted.
it refers to mary as the catholics believe or it refers to the savior of all mankind as some other people believe all the old testament refers to man's sin nature and how god saves mankind through his messiah.
look again at genesis 3.15 king james version:
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; IT shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
the king james is very emphatic. notice the verse is translated: IT shall bruise thy head. what does the word IT refer to?
the word IT cannot refer to mary. mary is not an IT. mary is a she.
IT can refer to enmity, except enmity has no power.
The word IT thus refers to the seed of the woman. IT shall bruise thy head is a metaphor that means the seed of the woman shall bruise the head of satan.
when did the the seed of the woman bruise the head of the serpent? jesus bruised the head of the serpent on the cross.
common sense says you can't "change horses in the middle of the stream".
that means you don't give one understanding to the bible and then a completely different understanding to all the traditions surrounding hassidic judasism.
that means if you understand the bible to be about the seperation of mankind from god due to man's sin nature, you have to bring the same understanding to the traditions of the jews.
so when you asked me for the source i can point to some rabbi someplace at some time who has said the same thing. but it still wouldn't mean a thing to you, would it.
the plain simple fact is that the roles of jewish men and jewish men have been strictly defined for a good long time.
as for example, when it comes time to recognize the jewishness of a baby.
his heritage comes from the mother. if the mother is jewish the baby is jewish. that comes from the simple basic expedient of, "you always know who the mother is".
if you talk to jews about the passover you will doubtless find jews who say it means nothing.
other jews will talk endlessly about why they do certain things and what it all refers to.
so who's correct?
if it means nothing to you it means nothing.
if it means something to you it means something.
i really can't give a clearer understanding. if you don't want to believe that the woman has been set aside to usher in the light of the passover sabbath, the true light which is the messiah, that's your choice.
i have no interest in what you believe the passover means without putting the messiah in his proper place.
here in canada i wish our political anectors invited jewish people to settle our prairie lands like these russians jews like in the steppes
:-)
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How so did perchik-the Bolshevik revolutionary-pray?🤔🤔
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