In this clip the psychologist Dr. Carl Jung was asked if Hitler was a father figure, Jung reply giving the psychological significance of the figure of Hitler
P.S. Jung is not condoning Hitler, he is just explaining how the Germans perceived him from a subconscious level, also this is everything he said about Hitler in this interview. Jung was talking about archetypes then out of nowhere the interviewer asked this question, and right after this clip they changed the topic.
Yes of corse . I understood from start it was idea of collective subconciouss. But , even father figures are saviors as symbol for his children , so it is kind of simmilar. Difference is on how broad is the view
I’m seeing a rise in factual comments and rational interpretations of things on social media and I just want to say that is great. This helps to prevent mindless arguments and displays of aggression in the comments as well as helps to perpetuate facts not fiction.
In the 30s Jung was the editor for a journal supporting hitler and white supremacy. He only dropped his public support after the Nazi downfall. He believed in the purity of the German race and a religion based on German mythology.
Very complicated and his analysis is usually very thorough expressing concepts and using examples. Ie: his interviewer could be unrehearsed or the publication. Or there wasn’t enough tape. Lol
Jung is the opposite of an objective man. Bro said it's complicated . This means the issue of Hitler is subjective and not objective. What the hell are you talking about? Jung was a deep thinker who had no first principle to give objective claims this is why all his solutions are " it's complicated" Better answer than many but still not an objective answer .
Calling Jung objective is misleading. He focuses on the "spirit" which is metaphysical. There is no proof for the spirit. No science of fact. He uses peoples reliance on the metaphysical to justify its existence but that isnt logical.
That is the beauty of psychoanalysis. There is no need to talk about the evils or values of a person...merely boiling them down and analyzing them. Their archetypes, their functions, how they have affected other people...what they mean to other people It isn't about being objective as much as it is taking a completely different stance...one of understanding rather than one of condemnation You can talk all day about why Hitler was evil, but many don't want to talk about what made him that way...the perfect storm of perception
Lust for power. I'm no shrink but post WW1 was a perfect storm for Hitler to rise to power. Germany was all about pride which we all know is the root of all evil. The vast majority of Germans believed they were on the right side and in way you cant blame them. No I'm not justifying what they did my grandfathers family fled Poland after the war (not Jewish just starving and homeless).
This is a true scientist of the mind. He was just speaking of the perspective of the German people during a desperate time for Germany. You couldn't have convinced them otherwise. They thought he was the answer to their failures. I wonder if this sounds familiar to anyone here? All throughout history desperate people have looked to just another grandiose figure that ends in disaster.
@drew67gmdrm72 No where near trump. Leftest Democrats will preferred trunk as suppose as to what’s coming after trump if he dose not win or gets whacked. Trump is a nice guy. To what will come out of the collapsing of society.
I remember people saying about Obama being their LORD and saviour. We all know he's running this Biden administration in the background. It's not going to end well for us.
He is not calling hitler a hero in his opinion. He is explaining the archetype that Hitler fell under, hitler tried to be a hero, And the Germans at the time perceived him as one. If you don’t know anything about Jung or his theories, probably best to do abit of reading before getting your panties in a twist.
@@ProtoIndoEuropean88 No, not a hero, a "hero figure" ... pretending to be a hero. "I alone can fix this". "I alone will restore our former (fictitious) glory. He is saying Hitler was a fake.
@ProtoIndoEuropean88 grow up, imagine judging one of the most intelligent famous psychologist based on a 20 second clip not showing the full context 🤓
What humility for a genuine genius. To say no no I couldn’t possibly, it’s to complicated. And then to speak about the hero figure archetype that he was rather than the monster we all perceive Hitler to be is brilliant. It’s easy to see that he thinks outside the box of normal thinking. Off topic but I am a recovered addict and a huge part of my recovery came from listening to this man and reading books he wrote. The shadow work he suggests is incredible for healing trauma. I do it often, take a real look at my shadow self regularly. But when I first did it I had trouble doing it without guilt and shame and I nearly ended my life because of it. Needles to say I was an IV drug user for a reason, childhood trauma. And I repeated most of that trauma all of my life. I hurt many people in the process and once I came to a place of understanding that I had to change, I had to heal my trauma and stop hurting people I looked to psychology as well as spirituality. So to look at the horrible things that I have done, my god it was difficult to keep moving forward without guilt and shame. I’m being very honest when I say suicide was on my mind more than once during this process. That is why many people do not do the shadow work, it’s to difficult to look inward when you have been not such a good person. But who looks outside dreams and who looks inside awakes. It’s crucial to do the shadow work. Still saving and changing lives even after death. That is a hero. Thank you Mr. Jung.
Jung said to embrace the Shadow, bring it to light and integrate it, become aware of it. We all have that dark side. Some more than others. The best we can do is work with it
@@Crookedchurch you’re welcome and thank you very much. It was an extremely difficult thing to do but I am so thankful that I became aware of the problem and made a choice to change. My life isn’t always easy but now I love life and I do my best to be as kind and understanding to everyone. Definitely not judgmental to other peoples struggles or downfalls since I know I had many myself. What a beautiful thing to go from fractured and broken to becoming whole. That’s a lifelong journey that I’m grateful to be on. I hope by sharing my story often it will help others in a similar situation to know that it is very possible to have a drastic change in their lives. And maybe to help others not to view the broken addicts and homeless in a negative way. They didn’t get there because their childhoods were ok. And you can’t blame a child who had no choice. But as an adult, stop being the victim and blaming and go deep into your mi d and your soul and find your true self. It’s in there
Yup. He respected Jws so much he wanted to be one , it's complicated, liberal subjective answer . He knows Jws are also stubborn from his many years of psychological anyslisis and kabbalah. There happy ? @@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING
He was not a psychiatrist, he was a psychoanalyst. The former uses medication and other treatments to deal with mental illness; the latter uses analysis to help patients understand the source of psychological complexes.
You should look Jung up. I haven’t given up on believing there’s more good than weird, but a lot of his stuff was downright cooky. But I keep finding almost as much stuff that just seems genius, too
@@laurentcamara6782 You have an unbalanced view of things. In older times psychiatry and psychology were not seperated. What you're defining as a psychiatrist is the modern type after psychiatric drugs were born, they began to seperate. And mental DISORDERS are not illnesses. You need to have a broader spectrum of facts considering their time and place, not just mumble generic points here and there thinking they're absolute truths..
@@moma8518that’s projection of your lack of ability to comprehend what he’s saying. Just because you lack comprehension skills doesn’t mean he “doesn’t say much”. You’re just dense.
All bad guys even in movies think they’re the hero in their story. The heroes in myths bring upon change to stagnating order. Hero in the sense that Jung is mentioning is not what we typically think of a hero but as an archetype within Jung’s framework.
@@vibratorpinata When discussing such footage, it's often important to give detailed statements regarding possible interpretations - and especially regarding now deceased people, who used everyday words in a specific, well-defined sense
@@vibratorpinataare you serious? You are saying that a savior is merely an idea? An aspirration? There is no physical representation of a savior in our reality? I hope you are wrong because that would be hell
Probably the most apt description of Adolf Hitler. No moral grandstanding, morality and what he did or didn't do is entirely irrelevant. This is purely about the psychology of the man, and the archetype he was, or perhaps what he was astrologically born into.
@@dallasfurnish3031 The reason is that they cant handle the truth and no other narrative around WW2 is allowed, it would make people ask uncomfortable questions but you cant kill the truth.
@@llumiinati the documentary has been made illegal and banned in multiple countries. Instead of disagreeing with me how about you look up what I said to verify it.
The only myth here are the lies They feed us. That fellow was on time Life magazine cover twice by the way. And this one here is just a mere page Turner.
I love when someone talking without bias like this. It's annoying when people shut me off when I tried to speak using different perspective. People tend to only listen to what they wanted to hear.
I'm not advocating Hitler, but we could learn from his actions. What history taught you, look at them with non-bias eyes, and you might even learn the qualities in which could enhance your lives.
@@eleesss3Peterson covers Jung a lot but doesn't seem to know how to apply Jung's archetypes to the Bible. Because Peterson reads the Bible quite literally to find his morals, which he apparently would not have without the Bible.
That was in the video, an import detail you missed. "A hero, in the German myth." And @radical I think you're misunderstanding the context in which "myth" was used here.
It´s really easy to twist the total meaning about a real complex reality with a simple short film jajaj. A hero in "the German myth"... Jung later explains his own moral dejection regarding totalitarianism... Jung was an extrange humanist, a clairvoyant wise man who helped us get to know deep pneuma phenomena from unconcious phsyque -vers l´elan vital et ses mysteres cachés- where mind, culture and spirit becomes sorts of one single living corpus in history
I listened to speeches that Hitler gave and he was saying to the German people everything any group of people would want to hear that you are the best the strongest the smartest the bravest that we're going to resurrect the German people to the position they deserve as hardworking industrious people. Just put yourself in their position and think of a leader who would say this about your people. Also remember not every German was a Nazi and many fought against them to the death and of their own family. Many Germans that were not Jews died in the concentration camps. The Nazis killed many elderly, disabled, mentally ill and diseased and also homosexuals which was a crime in much of the world during those days. It is of note that more people were killed by far under communism and only recently have people really started to make mention of this. Approximately 100 million people died under communism whereas maybe 1/5th or 20% died under Nazism.
@@schoschta4813 why don't you do some research instead of relying on listening to somebody's propaganda indoctrinating you and don't just read their info.
How many idiots are going to see this snippet and take it out of the full context. Jung was describing Adolph as he was to the German people who followed him, not as an outsider would see him.
Hitler was portraying himself as a hero figure, which he was for many of his followers at that time. That does not mean that Hitler was a Hero (!) People in the comments don‘t really get it. But what am I expecting under a TH-cam Short Video..
@@Sapientia-in-senectutedefinitely not putting a stranglehold on a nation's economy and push them to the edge and force them to push back and start a war 😊
Anyone who knows of Carl's work would know that he is NOT complimenting the old dictator. I feel like he is mocking his inner conscience and status in his society at the time
This is similar to the phenomenon of sebastianism in Brazil. It is notable that the country's most notable (not necessarily the "best") leaders were populists and perceived as a godsend. As saviors.
Jung understands the magical aspect of existence and the influence it has on the programming of individuals! The Egyptians term this the ka - the soul in a living body and the ba - the soul in death! Jung makes it practically tangible using his concept of unconscious and conscious personality! This is why he says it's impossible to explain fully how he influenced the German people using mythos. This is because the unconscious part of the explanation cannot be explained because it's unconscious but consciously present operating in a get unknown dimension.
The question is..."why did HumanNature decide to use This clip and that particular edited piece?? The clip could have easily been longer to avoid any confusion...? Hnmmm, None of us are exempt.
People are way too easily moved by political "saviors." Jung was a prophet in a very real sense; his teachings should be required education. Brilliant man.
... Oh, no, I could never begin to explain Hitler and then proceedes to perfectly sum up and explain him exactly as he was viewed during his time in power ...
Do we do such things with people today? Put them on pedestals and make them a hero figure? Even make them religious figures even if they themselves couldn't care less about their followers religion?
Although he was chiefly referring to communism in The Undiscovered Self, it doesn’t leave much room to worry that Jung would compliment Hitler. He discusses a sort of societal mental illness that goes hand in hand with the State supplanting the reason and morality of the individual and how the people best suited to rise to the top in that situation are those who already were mentally ill as individuals. It’s frightening how well it applies to almost any modern political movement that I am familiar with actually.
“What is the significance of that split, symbolized by the ‘Iron Curtain,’ which divides humanity into two halves? What will become of our civilization, and of man himself, if the hydrogen bombs begin to go off, or if the spiritual and moral darkness of State absolutism should spread over Europe?” He also felt the need to add footnotes addressing the Hungarian revolution.
Be careful taking things out of context. It can be very misleading. I'm very fond of Jung and would hate to have him on the cultural chopping block for purportedly calling Hitler a "hero."
Yall realize he worked with the Nazis right? He was incredibly intelligent and wise, but don't get it twisted just because Jordan Peterson worships him... “The Jew, who is something of a nomad, has never yet created a cultural form of his own and as far as we can see never will, since all his instincts and talents require a more or less civilized nation to act as host for their development.” - From the man himself... Even geniuses have terrible ideas. That doesn't mean that he didn't produce a lot of valuable wisdom, but it also doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything he said. And you definitely shouldn't be performing these mental gymnastics in order to make his garbage ideas sound okay... It's okay to discard and denounce some of it.
If the "hero" is more important than "any father", would this not also pertain too "god the father"? Is Achilles the hero more important than Zevs the "allfather"? I am genuinely curious.
well, i think zeus and other god images are not just father figures, they are also hero/wizard and so on... but the fact is people can associate with achilles and other more worldy heros much more than all powerful characters
How does one respond to the question about Trump? We couch our responses; too afraid to say what we really think. If Jung couldn’t speak truth, what chance we have?
Where would Germany be if Hitler didn't exist or rise to power? How would Germany as a country be today? These world wars and all the horrible things that happened actually accelerated the progress of technology, industry and many other fields.
Always thought Jung was far superior to Freud some disagree,for them to much mystasiciam, for others, the Buddhist, have come the closest to figuring it all out
Hitler represented an underdog story that coincided with German xenophobic tradition and superiority/inferiority complexes. His rise to power wasn't purely accidental. It was a semi-orchestrated power grab.
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P.S. Jung is not condoning Hitler, he is just explaining how the Germans perceived him from a subconscious level, also this is everything he said about Hitler in this interview. Jung was talking about archetypes then out of nowhere the interviewer asked this question, and right after this clip they changed the topic.
Yes of corse . I understood from start it was idea of collective subconciouss. But , even father figures are saviors as symbol for his children , so it is kind of simmilar. Difference is on how broad is the view
bugman understanding of history
I’m seeing a rise in factual comments and rational interpretations of things on social media and I just want to say that is great. This helps to prevent mindless arguments and displays of aggression in the comments as well as helps to perpetuate facts not fiction.
@@farseervisionsno, he's speaking for the context 🙄
In the 30s Jung was the editor for a journal supporting hitler and white supremacy. He only dropped his public support after the Nazi downfall. He believed in the purity of the German race and a religion based on German mythology.
When Jung says it's complicated it's impossible.
Not really
If you read jung you would know it is
It's possible
i understand what you say ..because I have heard about his difficult textured books
Very complicated and his analysis is usually very thorough expressing concepts and using examples. Ie: his interviewer could be unrehearsed or the publication. Or there wasn’t enough tape. Lol
Psychology should be taught in public schools. Society suffers an imbalance from a lack of this.
Modern psychology is wole garbage now anyway.
Couldn't agree more!
In Denmark it is
Not sure I understand what ya mean? East coast US and I took psychology in school. (Prior to as well as during college.)
@@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING well in my country it isn't, and I am sure it is not the only place where people are clueless about psychology
A very objective man
Objectivity is the mark of a true Scientist, wouldn't you say?
looks like a jew ... is he jewish?
@@Itz_KLONOPINI'd say so.. but i ain't no scientist lol
Jung is the opposite of an objective man. Bro said it's complicated . This means the issue of Hitler is subjective and not objective. What the hell are you talking about?
Jung was a deep thinker who had no first principle to give objective claims this is why all his solutions are " it's complicated"
Better answer than many but still not an objective answer .
Calling Jung objective is misleading.
He focuses on the "spirit" which is metaphysical. There is no proof for the spirit. No science of fact. He uses peoples reliance on the metaphysical to justify its existence but that isnt logical.
That is the beauty of psychoanalysis. There is no need to talk about the evils or values of a person...merely boiling them down and analyzing them. Their archetypes, their functions, how they have affected other people...what they mean to other people
It isn't about being objective as much as it is taking a completely different stance...one of understanding rather than one of condemnation
You can talk all day about why Hitler was evil, but many don't want to talk about what made him that way...the perfect storm of perception
Lust for power. I'm no shrink but post WW1 was a perfect storm for Hitler to rise to power. Germany was all about pride which we all know is the root of all evil. The vast majority of Germans believed they were on the right side and in way you cant blame them. No I'm not justifying what they did my grandfathers family fled Poland after the war (not Jewish just starving and homeless).
What are you on about @@IFoundWaldoOnce
Jordan Peterson does a great job with this
@@seanfeeley8412Or you can think for yourself lol
What do you think about Adolf Hitler and who was he to the German public during his career?
@@mkkk1058 he almost saved us from interest rates.
This is a true scientist of the mind. He was just speaking of the perspective of the German people during a desperate time for Germany. You couldn't have convinced them otherwise. They thought he was the answer to their failures. I wonder if this sounds familiar to anyone here? All throughout history desperate people have looked to just another grandiose figure that ends in disaster.
Anyone say Trump 😅
@drew67gmdrm72
No where near trump. Leftest Democrats will preferred trunk as suppose as to what’s coming after trump if he dose not win or gets whacked.
Trump is a nice guy. To what will come out of the collapsing of society.
The current Ethiopian prime minister
Not all Germans believed in Hitler. Some saw right through him. Same today with trumpers. They would have believed in Hitler too
I remember people saying about Obama being their LORD and saviour.
We all know he's running this Biden administration in the background.
It's not going to end well for us.
He is not calling hitler a hero in his opinion. He is explaining the archetype that Hitler fell under, hitler tried to be a hero, And the Germans at the time perceived him as one. If you don’t know anything about Jung or his theories, probably best to do abit of reading before getting your panties in a twist.
nice cope bro, Jung clearly admired Hitler as shown here.
@@ProtoIndoEuropean88 No, not a hero, a "hero figure" ... pretending to be a hero. "I alone can fix this". "I alone will restore our former (fictitious) glory. He is saying Hitler was a fake.
He isn’t but I am
@ProtoIndoEuropean88 grow up, imagine judging one of the most intelligent famous psychologist based on a 20 second clip not showing the full context 🤓
Freud accused Jung of antisemitism so there's that too
Real men, real ideas, real interviews. God I miss men! Real men!
Based
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@@MorabitAbderahman-Berkane@
i don't think he means what you think he means
leave it to a nazi to have 0 comprehension skills ig
The opinion about time magazine man of the year 1938 is a scale of intelligence
Intellectual Integrity was Carl Jungs middle name.
What humility for a genuine genius. To say no no I couldn’t possibly, it’s to complicated. And then to speak about the hero figure archetype that he was rather than the monster we all perceive Hitler to be is brilliant. It’s easy to see that he thinks outside the box of normal thinking. Off topic but I am a recovered addict and a huge part of my recovery came from listening to this man and reading books he wrote. The shadow work he suggests is incredible for healing trauma. I do it often, take a real look at my shadow self regularly. But when I first did it I had trouble doing it without guilt and shame and I nearly ended my life because of it. Needles to say I was an IV drug user for a reason, childhood trauma. And I repeated most of that trauma all of my life. I hurt many people in the process and once I came to a place of understanding that I had to change, I had to heal my trauma and stop hurting people I looked to psychology as well as spirituality. So to look at the horrible things that I have done, my god it was difficult to keep moving forward without guilt and shame. I’m being very honest when I say suicide was on my mind more than once during this process. That is why many people do not do the shadow work, it’s to difficult to look inward when you have been not such a good person. But who looks outside dreams and who looks inside awakes. It’s crucial to do the shadow work. Still saving and changing lives even after death. That is a hero. Thank you Mr. Jung.
Jung said to embrace the Shadow, bring it to light and integrate it, become aware of it. We all have that dark side. Some more than others. The best we can do is work with it
@@arriuscalpurniuspiso you bet, I agree with it too. It’s the only way to become whole. And that is the goal after all.
Thankyou for sharing this Chris I hope your life is now plentiful and peaceful. Takes alot of bravery to do what you did I salute you 🙏
@@Crookedchurch you’re welcome and thank you very much. It was an extremely difficult thing to do but I am so thankful that I became aware of the problem and made a choice to change. My life isn’t always easy but now I love life and I do my best to be as kind and understanding to everyone. Definitely not judgmental to other peoples struggles or downfalls since I know I had many myself. What a beautiful thing to go from fractured and broken to becoming whole. That’s a lifelong journey that I’m grateful to be on. I hope by sharing my story often it will help others in a similar situation to know that it is very possible to have a drastic change in their lives. And maybe to help others not to view the broken addicts and homeless in a negative way. They didn’t get there because their childhoods were ok. And you can’t blame a child who had no choice. But as an adult, stop being the victim and blaming and go deep into your mi d and your soul and find your true self. It’s in there
Most smart people and scientists are humble
Jung's stressing that it was "too complicated" says it all - about Jung.
Care to explain it in a simple way then?
Yup. He respected Jws so much he wanted to be one , it's complicated, liberal subjective answer . He knows Jws are also stubborn from his many years of psychological anyslisis and kabbalah. There happy ? @@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING
What is something is being all about someone? Does he mean it is personal or something he can’t achieve in explaining?
shut up, jew.
Gee you're a nasty bit of work.
This guy was a very good psychiatrist seem to have no apparent biases
He was not a psychiatrist, he was a psychoanalyst. The former uses medication and other treatments to deal with mental illness; the latter uses analysis to help patients understand the source of psychological complexes.
@@laurentcamara6782 psychologist
@@laurentcamara6782 he was both
You should look Jung up. I haven’t given up on believing there’s more good than weird, but a lot of his stuff was downright cooky. But I keep finding almost as much stuff that just seems genius, too
@@laurentcamara6782 You have an unbalanced view of things. In older times psychiatry and psychology were not seperated. What you're defining as a psychiatrist is the modern type after psychiatric drugs were born, they began to seperate. And mental DISORDERS are not illnesses. You need to have a broader spectrum of facts considering their time and place, not just mumble generic points here and there thinking they're absolute truths..
God I fuking love Jung.
Freud was not even close to Jung greatness...
Freud helped the USA to produce anti-German Propaganda, in other words how to influence the masses, with his nephew Edward Bernays.@@Alfakkin
I don’t, he’s needlessly confusing and doesn’t say all that much
@@moma8518that’s projection of your lack of ability to comprehend what he’s saying. Just because you lack comprehension skills doesn’t mean he “doesn’t say much”. You’re just dense.
@@moma8518 Not confusing to those who have read his books
It’s got that voice that you just wanna listen to it all day
All bad guys even in movies think they’re the hero in their story. The heroes in myths bring upon change to stagnating order. Hero in the sense that Jung is mentioning is not what we typically think of a hero but as an archetype within Jung’s framework.
Of course! Just like a saviour is really just a very mythical, theoretical, a figure of speech, really. Now, move along!
@@vibratorpinata When discussing such footage, it's often important to give detailed statements regarding possible interpretations - and especially regarding now deceased people, who used everyday words in a specific, well-defined sense
Actually he is speaking to the hero archetype as we understand it today. However, in the German ZEITGEIST.
@@vibratorpinataare you serious? You are saying that a savior is merely an idea? An aspirration? There is no physical representation of a savior in our reality? I hope you are wrong because that would be hell
@@vibratorpinata Jung did not politically support Hitler, if that's what you're insinuating lol
Carl was an intellectual
I'm sure a lot of people are misunderstanding what was said here 😂
this is why I wrote a comment that gives more context
The more time passes Hitler seems less deranged
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As people allow themselves to forget the horrific suffering
@@rfree863 by who?
The more you turn into a Nazi...
He is clearly commenting on the German mythos around Hitler, not saying he was literally a hero.
Yes, to those who come upon this video,Jung was -NOT- calling hitler an ( actual hero) he was speaking in a much different context!
Explain the context
if he won, we would worship him like gandhi.
Killed 6 millioner. I dont think so.....
Maybe, But if Ghandi lost, you wouldn't even know his name...
Probably the most apt description of Adolf Hitler. No moral grandstanding, morality and what he did or didn't do is entirely irrelevant. This is purely about the psychology of the man, and the archetype he was, or perhaps what he was astrologically born into.
Everyone in the comment section, with all due respect, read the goddamn pinned comment before you speak your mind
The greatest story never told, watch it.
Changed my life
@marcusvirta3695 it does, because the idea is still alive
Ya, I watched it to. There's a reasons it's illegal in many countries lol.
@@dallasfurnish3031 The reason is that they cant handle the truth and no other narrative around WW2 is allowed, it would make people ask uncomfortable questions but you cant kill the truth.
@@llumiinati the documentary has been made illegal and banned in multiple countries. Instead of disagreeing with me how about you look up what I said to verify it.
The only myth here are the lies They feed us. That fellow was on time Life magazine cover twice by the way. And this one here is just a mere page Turner.
I love when someone talking without bias like this. It's annoying when people shut me off when I tried to speak using different perspective. People tend to only listen to what they wanted to hear.
I'm not advocating Hitler, but we could learn from his actions. What history taught you, look at them with non-bias eyes, and you might even learn the qualities in which could enhance your lives.
Victors write the history books also. Vast majority of people’s opinions on ww2 are meticulously engineered to be a certain way and that’s fact
Jung was such a brilliant human. He was able to experience spiritual concepts and science.
It's like Jordan Peterson copied his way of speaking.
Bro I was in one of his lectures yesterday and realized he is creating a new book… spoilers, he will copy Answer to Job 🤦♂️
Yeah just like all people imitate the people they look up to. No one is original. We are all conditioned.
@@cedrickdherlin6710oh wow, im new to both of them, where would you say that we can detect the copy from j.peterson to C. G. Jung?
I mean where can we detect most of it copy? Or where do you percive it? So i can guide my self better gettin others persoectives, ty brother
@@eleesss3Peterson covers Jung a lot but doesn't seem to know how to apply Jung's archetypes to the Bible. Because Peterson reads the Bible quite literally to find his morals, which he apparently would not have without the Bible.
Hero archetype in the German Myth. You missed that important and small detail
A myth so mythical, that all it took was for a German to walk outside with their eyes open and see?
That was in the video, an import detail you missed. "A hero, in the German myth." And @radical I think you're misunderstanding the context in which "myth" was used here.
Another based Jung video
Very based
Your perception of evil determined by what side of the line you stand on
Yes.... One man's terrorist truly is another man's freedom fighter. And the winners of the wars write the history.
Yes, whether you stand on the side of good or evil changes your perception
The truth will set you free
Germany is for Germans, it's not complicated
Than it doesn’t exist anymore
@@petarmajstor2370 pretty much😥
My homeland is for those who are born there and all those who want to visit. It belongs to no one except for those who wish to live there
@@Larry321ness spoken like someone who never fought for anything
France also ...@@user-lj2cb2pj8j
based means true
It´s really easy to twist the total meaning about a real complex reality with a simple short film jajaj. A hero in "the German myth"... Jung later explains his own moral dejection regarding totalitarianism... Jung was an extrange humanist, a clairvoyant wise man who helped us get to know deep pneuma phenomena from unconcious phsyque -vers l´elan vital et ses mysteres cachés- where mind, culture and spirit becomes sorts of one single living corpus in history
Watch Europa the last battle
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I listened to speeches that Hitler gave and he was saying to the German people everything any group of people would want to hear that you are the best the strongest the smartest the bravest that we're going to resurrect the German people to the position they deserve as hardworking industrious people. Just put yourself in their position and think of a leader who would say this about your people. Also remember not every German was a Nazi and many fought against them to the death and of their own family. Many Germans that were not Jews died in the concentration camps. The Nazis killed many elderly, disabled, mentally ill and diseased and also homosexuals which was a crime in much of the world during those days. It is of note that more people were killed by far under communism and only recently have people really started to make mention of this. Approximately 100 million people died under communism whereas maybe 1/5th or 20% died under Nazism.
And how many died under imperialism *cough cough* USA, Britain, Netherlands...
@@schoschta4813 why don't you do some research instead of relying on listening to somebody's propaganda indoctrinating you and don't just read their info.
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@@schoschta4813how many did genghis kahn wipe out…get back to me. Stalin and China. British imperialism was trade agreements not genocide.
British are quite possibly the biggest colonials and genocide drivers in history. Just Look at india and Ireland and America
He's talking about the narrative, the story, the world we believe in.
We are in a narrative right now.
How many idiots are going to see this snippet and take it out of the full context. Jung was describing Adolph as he was to the German people who followed him, not as an outsider would see him.
Hitler was portraying himself as a hero figure, which he was for many of his followers at that time.
That does not mean that Hitler was a Hero (!)
People in the comments don‘t really get it. But what am I expecting under a TH-cam Short Video..
It's time we just started telling the truth about it all
There's a hero if you look inside his heart.
Do you know what being a hero means?
@@Sapientia-in-senectutedefinitely not putting a stranglehold on a nation's economy and push them to the edge and force them to push back and start a war 😊
@@arai6147 do you know what being a hero means?
@@Sapientia-in-senectute "a person who is admired for having done something very brave or having achieved something great" (Cambridge Dictionary)
@@herruralmajesty8555 thats not what being a hero means thats the definition of calling someone a hero, you said theres a hero in his heart, how?
Anyone who knows of Carl's work would know that he is NOT complimenting the old dictator. I feel like he is mocking his inner conscience and status in his society at the time
The truth is stranger than fiction
What is this from? I didn’t see this part in the full length BBC interview
Watching this man speak really does separate the wheat from the chaff
He is so correct
Not the angle I was expecting after he said it was complicated 😂
He was never a father, but history can't deny he was the outcome of an abused child.
Full video?
Jung knew his limits.
This is similar to the phenomenon of sebastianism in Brazil. It is notable that the country's most notable (not necessarily the "best") leaders were populists and perceived as a godsend. As saviors.
To hurt others is to hurt your self
because others are yourself?
Facts
Jung understands the magical aspect of existence and the influence it has on the programming of individuals! The Egyptians term this the ka - the soul in a living body and the ba - the soul in death! Jung makes it practically tangible using his concept of unconscious and conscious personality! This is why he says it's impossible to explain fully how he influenced the German people using mythos. This is because the unconscious part of the explanation cannot be explained because it's unconscious but consciously present operating in a get unknown dimension.
plot twist was heavy
Visionary.
Thanks to this guys Bill W created the program of AA.
Love Jung, can't stand other Jung fans :D
Worst subtitle transcription ever lol
How many times has Humanity not been destroyed by his example? An objective question. I am Hebrew, fuck thy guy, only the shadow ‘knows,’ yeah?
Jung also thought he was possessed by Wotan.
Crazy how hes still a hero to many still today. Mind boggling
Crazy how you trust history from school books. Mind boggling.
The question is..."why did HumanNature decide to use This clip and that particular edited piece??
The clip could have easily been longer to avoid any confusion...?
Hnmmm, None of us are exempt.
Jung would probably say the same of Modi of today's India
Well this explains why Hitler is in Persona 2
People are way too easily moved by political "saviors." Jung was a prophet in a very real sense; his teachings should be required education. Brilliant man.
He said that clearly myth and it's right the Germans loved him
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When is this interview from?
1957
In other words, well after Hitlers atrocities and way after Hitler was awarded man Man of the Year, 1938 by TIME magazine.
He sure was on right track
out of context
Brilliant man.
This sounds very fucked up out of context.
... Oh, no, I could never begin to explain Hitler and then proceedes to perfectly sum up and explain him exactly as he was viewed during his time in power ...
Jung's concept of anima and anomus changed my perception
Please help me find the full interview??
I am not able to send links anymore. but if you type Interview with Dr Carl Jung 1957 on search you can easily find the source.
We have the same now. They see themselves as saviors. Rationalizing any measure.
Do we do such things with people today? Put them on pedestals and make them a hero figure? Even make them religious figures even if they themselves couldn't care less about their followers religion?
Although he was chiefly referring to communism in The Undiscovered Self, it doesn’t leave much room to worry that Jung would compliment Hitler. He discusses a sort of societal mental illness that goes hand in hand with the State supplanting the reason and morality of the individual and how the people best suited to rise to the top in that situation are those who already were mentally ill as individuals. It’s frightening how well it applies to almost any modern political movement that I am familiar with actually.
can you elaborate on why you think he is chiefly referring to communism in regards of The Undiscovered Self?
“What is the significance of that split, symbolized by the ‘Iron Curtain,’ which divides humanity into two halves? What will become of our civilization, and of man himself, if the hydrogen bombs begin to go off, or if the spiritual and moral darkness of State absolutism should spread over Europe?” He also felt the need to add footnotes addressing the Hungarian revolution.
Be careful taking things out of context. It can be very misleading. I'm very fond of Jung and would hate to have him on the cultural chopping block for purportedly calling Hitler a "hero."
Non judgemental love Carl Jung
Yall realize he worked with the Nazis right? He was incredibly intelligent and wise, but don't get it twisted just because Jordan Peterson worships him...
“The Jew, who is something of a nomad, has never yet created a cultural form of his own and as far as we can see never will, since all his instincts and talents require a more or less civilized nation to act as host for their development.”
- From the man himself...
Even geniuses have terrible ideas. That doesn't mean that he didn't produce a lot of valuable wisdom, but it also doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything he said. And you definitely shouldn't be performing these mental gymnastics in order to make his garbage ideas sound okay... It's okay to discard and denounce some of it.
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Until you understand this you will never understand anything about history, myth, or the human psyche
If the "hero" is more important than "any father", would this not also pertain too "god the father"? Is Achilles the hero more important than Zevs the "allfather"?
I am genuinely curious.
well, i think zeus and other god images are not just father figures, they are also hero/wizard and so on... but the fact is people can associate with achilles and other more worldy heros much more than all powerful characters
How does one respond to the question about Trump? We couch our responses; too afraid to say what we really think. If Jung couldn’t speak truth, what chance we have?
Very uncomfortable body language. He was put in a very difficult position to answer a very complex question 🤔 😕
Way too many parallels between netanyhoo and Hitler
Why couldn't the SS and people they were against work out some type of diplomatic agreement?
Are you being genuine? Or is this just a troll?
Hitler tried. He was denied multiple times all while winning the war
Where would Germany be if Hitler didn't exist or rise to power? How would Germany as a country be today?
These world wars and all the horrible things that happened actually accelerated the progress of technology, industry and many other fields.
Always thought Jung was far superior to Freud some disagree,for them to much mystasiciam, for others, the Buddhist, have come the closest to figuring it all out
I was wanting to see a lot more action in the comment sections lol JK. But seriously I'm surprised this was taken the proper way
Hitler represented an underdog story that coincided with German xenophobic tradition and superiority/inferiority complexes. His rise to power wasn't purely accidental. It was a semi-orchestrated power grab.
This is that weird guy from the Amber Terd trial.
Trump wants to be such a "hero" too...
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Keep it simple that’s where the start and the end is