TfL Rail Paddington to Heathrow
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- With a new tube map for May 2018, TfL Rail services now run between Paddington through Hayes and Harlington, and down to Heathrow.
We went to catch the first ever 'purple' train (Class 345) in passenger service, and try to get our heads around the service pattern...
TO SUMMARISE!
BEFORE ...
Heathrow Express (4 trains per hour, to Terminals 2&3 and then T5)
Heathrow Connect, USED to run to Terminal 2&3, and then also (if you stayed on) to T5 as well
There was a Heathrow Express shuttle every 15 minutes between T2&3 and T4.
AFTER ...
Heathrow Express - UNCHANGED - 4 trains per hour, to Terminals 2&3 and then T5)
TfL Rail, two trains per hour (New Class 345) only as far as Hayes & Harlington
Old 'Connect' trains (now with TfL Rail badge on them) every half an hour, all the way to T2&3, and then T4.
TfL Rail shuttle every half an hour between T4 and T2&3, meaning that there is a train every 15 minutes from T4
FUTURE ...
Crossrail/Elizabeth Line (New Class 345 purple trains) will run 6 trains an hour to T2&3, four with then go to T4, two will go to T5.
Heathrow Express remains unchanged... for now.
Clear as mud? Excellent.
The "New" bit of the bay platform at Hayes & Harlington is where it's been extended so that 9 car train can fit here (Currently they're only using 7 car trains) - all station out west have had work done to them to extend the platforms.
Also, yes - it's just "Terminals 2&3" now, Terminal 1 closed a while ago.
Londonist Ltd : 0:09 inside of the train is so beautiful...i like it
Geoff can you look into Oysters/Contactless on Gatwick Express?, my thought is, if you travel on the Gatwick Express with contactless, there and back 7 days or so apart, would you get charged two singles at £19ish, rather than buying a paper anytime return ticket for £32ish? Ideally it should look for a return journey within 30 days, and charge you the cheapest fare.
Why have they closed Terminal 1 when we hear so much about how Heathrow is so close to capacity?
Terminal 2 is expanding to take over the site of Terminal 1
i think it will pass through some parts on its way to reading eventually. West drayton - iver - langley - slough - burnham - taplow - maindenhead - twyford and finally reading. I believe this is the last step tho. Presumably done this way because they want to ease in the newer service in case of issues i guess.
*Tourist detected* 3:20
Wholy ❶ Valid (should have been) credit cards issued by foreign banks randomly became unacceptable at TfL turnstiles.
@@tennyho3236 It was just a regular train ticket!
@@joelsawyer569 In some places, like Chicago, even "paper" tickets have RFID tags, and you tap them like an Oyster card.
I think it is just funny though!
True
Must swap out all references to “December 2018” for “who knows”.
I went on it yesterday for the first time. ITS AMAZING! My dad even agreed and he's not even into trains!
"In December 2018".... oops.
This is ageing quite wel.... 2021? maybe?
Elizabeth Line was delayed
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This video didn’t age well
The lady with the blu bag at 3:20. Trying to scan a paper ticket 😂. Has she never done it before ? Omg
Tourists from places with superior systems where even the paper tickets have NFC...
MQsCues I was gonna say, she must of known to of got there
Trains In The South West. Pain in the arse them paper tickets. I scan the barcode, bloody thing never flipping works right.
Trains In The South West.
Yes. I think it's quite likely she's never done it before. People do do things for the first time. And if she's a tourist it makes sense.
You claim she couldn't have got there without doing it somewhere else. But of course she could! She could have started at any station without barriers and transferred at Hayes or Paddington.
Wonder was it me. Lol
Interesting update on Tfl Rail, keep it up Geoff! :-)
Best regards from Finland, Tuukka
Love the irony of watching this video just after I took the new TFL Rail service from Heathrow Terminal 3 to Paddington this morning. Was at first confused then sad that i didn't get a Class 345 train from LHR but now I see why thanks to Geoff 😎
All this purpleness is very exciting! ❤️
Geoff, as regular overseas visitors, a video on the different ways to get to and from Heathrow, would be of great interest. At present we use the Piccadilly Line from Heathrow to Hammersmith, then District Line to destination.
someone else has already done it ... th-cam.com/video/nE2fqhWuVPM/w-d-xo.html
I always change at Barons Court ... less people and easier to change lines.
Can’t believe how long I’ve been following the Crossrail project and now it’s in its final stage! So exciting and I wanna be on the first train through the tunnels!
Sadly it was delayed until 2022
I rode on the 345 to Hayes and Harlington today as well, but at the more leisurely time of 11am. Well done Geoff.
I am glad you put this up. Yesterday this train appeared on my platform and I had no idea where it went. Glad to see it is part of Crossrail and willeventually cross London
Please do the cheapest way to... Video on a number of London airports
VladimirV Search "London Planner London Airport." Done by Jay Foreman, someone Geoff collaborated with for another video.
VladimirV cheap and TFL in a single sentence.... I’ll let you know when I stop laughing! London I expect has the most putatively expensive “public” transport on the planet.
@Scott B - it's because everything is so expensive that knowing which is the cheapest (least expensive) way is so important.
The only two would be
(1) Heathrow
(2) London City(if you go via the London Overground line)
Bob Tahoma It bloody well should be .....a 1-6 weekly travelcard in London is £62.30. The equivalent in Paris at today's exchange rate is £19.92. It's what happens when TFL is allowed to operate an abusive monopoly.
The number of rail options to Heathrow are now incredible. We Yanks have two subway lines to JFK. Two. No heavier rail. No JFK express. Just two regular subway lines. Because we're a world capital, don't you know. Just like Hong Kong, Tokyo, Paris and London. Yep. Every bit as great as them. Our politicians tell us so.
Same in Toronto. We have a motley of buses and an express train that’s still horrifyingly slow.
LIRR to Jamaica and thence to JFK Airtrain. So yes NYC does have “heavier” rail to the airport.
DC has direct rail service only to Reag*n National Airport, currently. In three years, Dulles Airport will get one subway line that connects it. Right now, neither Dulles or BWI have direct rail service, and BWI has a light rail service from Baltimore and a commuter rail service from DC but only to a station that isn't on the airport grounds -- you then have to finish your trip by bus.
Prepare yourself for more bad news - New York isn't even a capital. Just a run of the mill city.
Are you talking New York to JFK, well the world capitol is called Washington... Just sayin.
This got me so excited to visit London next time I come! It was also so expensive and/or difficult to get from Heathrow.
I love your videos but I can't always comment bc i watch on roku tv, and i can only hit like on there.
curious why difficult? The Piccadilly line runs direct from Heathrow through central London and for the normal price of a zone 6 underground train ticket. The Heathrow Express is the premium train non-stop direct to Paddington Station (not that useful) and is expensive. The slower Heathrow Connect service to Paddington, which this new service will replace did not cost that much more than that Piccadilly line but again only went to Paddington. So currently the Piccadilly line is still the easiest method as it goes through central London. When the Elizabeth line opens in December the trains in the video will also go through central London and out to East London. These will be 800m full size trains so will be then be more more convenient and easier to use than the Picaddilly line.
You can also easily avoid a higher train fare by taking the 140 towards Harrow Weald and getting off at Hayes and Harlington. That way, it'll only charge you the standard Zone 5 fare.
December '18 it opens all the way through...well here we are in June '20 and still not running through Central London
its June 2021 and STILL no crossrail
So if I'm staying at Heathrow and went into the city via tfl rail... does that count towards the maximum daily cap. If so, how much is that?
Im assuming the Heathrow Express has conductors onboard checking tickets, because there’s now oyster barriers at Heathrow & Paddington, so without a ticket check, you could just pay with oyster on the express and get the tfl rail fare
H010 That is a very good point. But yes, there are inspectors on every Heathrow Express service, there always have been.
There are no gates for the Heathrow Express at Paddington - you can get onto the platform - and the trains - from both the Praed St side and from the bridge without barriers.
BennettC yes that’s right the Heathrow Express uses dedicated platforms 6 and 7 at Paddington and they have no ticket barriers.
yep heathrow express trains have no gates and you get your tickets checked just after departure
They didn't check my ticket the other day coming back at 10pm
That purple shirt was no accident...
richardsim7 I think that must have been Vickie. I cannot imagine a bloke thinking like that
This is actually quite interesting. We took the Heathrow Express when we visited London, but perhaps this would have given us another, less expensive option.
Very interesting, indeed.
I saw a Crossrail class 345 at Reading but it operated under the words "Elizabeth Line"
Waterloo to Feltham then bus. That’s how I do it from South London.
Same here.
The only bad thing about that is you have to go to Feltham.
I wonder what will happen to the Heathrow Express? It had a monopoly before since while it is still the fastest train into London, Crossrail will get business folk to Canary Wharf and tourists right into the heart of London quickly without changing at Paddington or travelling on the long Piccadilly line, which admittedly does skip a few stations but is still slow, will the HeXprss have to become less premium or will Crossrail eventually run a non stop service itself?
GWR are due to take-over the HX services in Autumn.
I think they will just try to out-premium the premium, free champagne bar or something
hopefully the 387s will get better seats, otherwise will be a bit much paying a hefty premium to ride on ironing boards
Some 387s are being modified for this services so perhaps.
Crossrail, the Elizabeth Line - if it ever opens!
My favourite train of TFL is Class 345
Very helpful info. It has always been a lifesaver that I can use the express service if I'm running late to catch a flight home but in general try to use the cheaper options.
Went to Heathrow using oyster on Sunday (the first day accepting oyster). On my way back, I had planned to use the Picdilly line for a bit of variation, but surprise surprise, it had a signal failure at Heathrow T2&3 so it as suspended! Lots of confused tourists, forking out for the HEX fare when they don't realise £10 for an oyster and £10.10 for the fare would be cheaper than even a SINGLE on HEX!
We are sorry to announce that the Elizabeth Line service across central London is delayed. This is due to the tunnels and stations are not ready.
You can get a National Express coach to Heathrow Airport from Victoria Coach Station as well, but I takes a bit longer than trains and sometimes cheaper.
Coaches can be long and be sickening it can also take double the time from a train so tourists Take A train from the airport
One thing, when are the class 345 trains going to Heathrow?
BTW, congratulations on your silver playbutton.
Estimated by March 2020 and in the may timetable change the hayes shuttle most likely will end and more services will go into Heathrow
Little fact, the seat at the end of each row closest to the door has a slightly different pattern. The grey boxes on the seats are blue... presumably to signify priority seats for disabled and elderly people
Sorry there's no 345's to Heathrow, yet, because delays again by further any notices.
Like TVM430 was ETCS signals signalling systems in place. So 360 class was on it to Heathrow airport, was 332's, and now 387's are available to Heathrow. Will 345's finally use to Heathrow soon, but also others join along like as 800 IEP's class, (800, 802, 803 IEP Rail class)?
its great to get to Paddington so quick, but boy are we paying for it. £27 one way!!! 15 minute journey.
Nice , my dream go for London, I am brazilians
The Heathrow Express services will be operated by the Great Western Railway under a management contract on behalf of Heathrow Airport Holdings in August 2018 and in 2019 some of the Class 387 EMUs will be operating the Paddington to Heathrow services
1:54 incorrect, Heathrow connect never stops at acton
The station at Terminals 2&3 in now called Heathrow Central for Terminals 2&3.
"In December 2018 they will be running all across London over the new line"
God that hasn't aged well
Yes please do the video for “cheapest ways to get to Heathrow” with timing! Will be super useful!
I am digging the purple shirt!
ah now i’m a little confused... with the oyster barriers installed, will there still be free shuttles between the terminals? t2-3 to t4, for instance
There should be, but whether you'll need an Oyster card or special ticket to do so is another question entirely...
It will work the same as the free interchange on the Piccadilly line, for which an Oyster or Contactless Payment Card is required.
Currently you can transfer for free with contactless or oyster but what if you’re connecting landside and don’t have any money or still have a swipe card or a chip and pin card
Then you'd have to find an ATM and buy a paper ticket with the magstripe card.
Yes. The customers transferring terminals are given blank tickets by the staff to pass through the gates.
Perhaps you could this again when the Elizabeth Line is fully operational from Mid/Late 2021. And with 9-Car Class 345s in service operating to/from Shenfield-Reading & Heathrow Airport 9Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5) and Abbey Wood-Reading & Heathrow Airport 9Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5).
The map at 1:47 is slightly wrong. The Heathrow Connect service used to run from Paddington to Terminal 5 and NOT Terminal 4 (except a couple of trains in the early morning, and late evening which went to T4).
Does TFL have any plans to connect West Drayton to Heathrow along Crossrail? I believe it would make the journey from to Reading section to Heathrow much easier for travellers.
They might as well cascade some Class 43 trains to become colleagues with Class 345s by reducing their speeds like the ones that they sent to ScotRail. Having Class 43s on the lines to all those Heathrow stations would be a dream come true. It would be a weird dream come true though.
Interesting. Being based in Stratford I often used to get the 69 to Canning Town then the 15 to Aldwyich then pick up the N9 to Heathrow. This was before the hopper or transfer but I had a travel card so no monies deducted. I’ve used the night tube twice which costs £2.05 with my annual z2-3 travel card .
Heathrow has finally become a PAYG oyster station. YAY!!!!
It always was with the Piccadilly Line. But I know what you mean.
Finally in West London. Waited so long for this
1:04 you said "All the Stations!" :-D
isnt this now an elizabeth line
great video, thank you for sharing!!
New beeps when doors open sound like a confused amalgamation or mix of the Hong Kong MTR's ding-dong-upon-opening, the Javelin (when doors shut), and a rather musical door chime on Beijing Subway Line 4 used for the first few days, before MTR (yes they run this one as well) barged in with their classic 20-beep "GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY" door ALARM (quite literally).
(Or did you prefer the Central line door alarms that gave you an ear-sore? They're actually the more effectives ones - but yes, they might take a toll on your ears...)
Opening 202? 2018 seems so long ago
Paddington is a great station if you want to see many many different kinds of trains.
I'm waiting for a line from NYC to the District and Circle (would be expensive I guess)...love the London transport system...wish we had it here...
the design of the seats is nice
There is a night bus from Heathrow to central London but alas it only runs at night
Aeron Farrell night buses are funny like that!
Is That The N9
You could just take a 490 to Richmond and change to other forms of transport there.
It's going to are more coaches on when it fully opens. Many more, so it will be so important to be at the right end of the train!
We took the tube from Terminal 4, since it was too early for our hotel check in and weren’t in much of a rush... even though our hotel was just down the road from Paddington (changed at Earls Court for the Circle Line). Plus that saved us some money to spend later.
Hi guys :) As I live in Walthamstow and travel to Heathrow for work (nightmare) I change at Finsbury Park as I only have to walk across platform there instead of the walk at Green Park :) to connect! Was hoping that TFL from Paddington to Heathrow would have been cheaper but I guess that is not to be the case. I know you can take the overground missing Z1 and get there for £1.50 but that takes many an hour. Getting home when working nights when the tube is un-operational is the N9 and then the N38 bus from Green Park back to Central. Was hoping with the E-line coming into action that I might be able to get to do London/LHR quicker and for not much more expense but my dreams are not to be!
If you're a Heathrow employee you get 75% off TfL Rail (and HEX) - you just need to buy a paper ticket at a ticket office
Who was the design consultant for those trains? Smart front and and smart interiors. Very appealing.
At 0:46, there is an image which is labeled 'Illustrated by Aaron Samuel, Springhallow School' 'When you search him up on the internet, a Nigerian footballer comes up.
You can even go from Croydon and London to any terminal in Heathrow for £1.5.
Check the X26 bus service and once you're in Heathrow just use the free connection to any terminal
Octávio Sá It's sort of useless. Even though the bus is an express line, it still takes a long time to get to Heathrow and vice versa.
Just to correct they run from Liverpool Street to Shenfield (and if you can avoid changing onto the line going toward Shenfield via Stratford you should, too busy!!!)
London to Heathrow: 6 trains per hour (tph)
London to Gatwick: 4 tph
London to Stansted: 2 tph
Luton: Wait a hour.....
Coming in from tge Midlands, my ticket includes all day travel card. Can I use this to get to Heathrow? Or do I have to use my Oyster card?
Might wanna amend this video as the line won’t be fully open till Autumn 2019 now!
Spring 2023
0:19 What a Paddington to Hayes & Harlington service not stopping at West Ealing
Can't you ride the Tube for free between terminals at Heathrow, so you could get the fast Express to the airport and then use the Tube to get to the terminals it doesn't serve?
You could, but Heathrow Express and TfL Rail between them serve all the terminals anyway.
Will the first train from Paddington to abbey wood will come to 9th December?
Are they going to put Purple Roundels at the above ground stations to Shenfield and Reading? #PurpleTrain
Having rode the class 345 on this route for the very first time today (Eastbound) (and yeah, I sometimes use this route for my journeys between my home and education institute, I'm not an autistic middle-aged train-fanatic although I was especially incentivised to use this route in the first place because of the new trains), I was impressed with the performance; quick acceleration/deceleration and significantly more efficient motor that is only a fraction as noisy as that of the class 387. Sitting in the front carriage (since I was observantly evaluating this model), sitting on the longitudinal seats by the wide windows felt a lot like riding on the S7 stock, but the commuter-class operating speed took the experience to a whole new dimension. I recorded a top speed of 128 km/h, which was achieved between Southall and West Ealing.The downside was the interior paint job; very plain and dull. It disappointingly lacked the vivid colouration of the interiors of the tube carriages, with dark grey inner walls and grab poles that were either black or unpainted metallic (tut, tut). Furthermore the door sounds were incredibly loud!
What I don't understand is why the TFL rail services don't call at every station through which they pass; only two trains per hour serve Acton Mainline and Hanwell.
But overall, a very impressive ride, and I admire the aerodynamic shape of the nose of each end car, although the curved rectangular shape of the headlights were rather disappointing.
MACROPARTICLE say what?
I believe all Heathrow services will terminate at Paddington until December 2019 (not 2018).
Yeah you will need to change trains to go through the tunnel section, and same again at the East end. Playing it safe.
If Tfl rail is taking over the free shuttle between T2&3 and T4 could it be possible to travel to Paddington and back to Heathrow (the other station) and it count as free (provided you don't tap out)?
You'll likely time out if you tried it, and if you're unlucky you could get a penalty fare on the way back.
Crossrail in December 2018, didn't happen in the end...
So are crossrail/Elizabeth line different from TFL Rail?
Did you know that TFL rail (and eventually crossrail) are operated by Hong Kongs metro system MTR.
Zachary Perez Jones at least not Chinese
And Network Rail.
You can take the bus from southall Broadway it's the 487 that goes to terminal 5 from southall town hall
That was probably the first TFL train I saw.
Are there plans for Secrets of Crossrail?
Can TFL rail trains couple and uncouple?
Oh my god please do a video on the cheapest way to get to Heathrow.....that would be amazing!!!!!
I believe the opening of the core section is now scheduled for between Oct 2020 and Mar 2021.
More here --> www.crossrail.co.uk/construction/our-plan-to-complete-the-elizabeth-line/#
Hopefully, everything will be right when it does open - better for it to be late and right than for it to be an early cock up...
Also, TFL to commence services to Reading - 15th Dec 2019 - see below...
www.crossrail.co.uk/news/articles/tfl-rail-to-operate-services-to-reading-from-15-december
Why are they not running the new purple trains all the way to LHR? Do they not have enough of the new class of trains ready to go yet? Infrastructure that isn't finished yet?
Incompatible signalling system - it needs updating in the tunnel for the new trains. And that can't be done until the 332s on the Express service are replaced, as they can't use the new system.
Heathrow Express tickets purchased online, well in advance are much cheaper than buying day of.
How will zone 1-6 fare capping on pay-as-you-go work if you include a journey to Heathrow on TfL rail in the mix?
The cap will be the same , but if you go to Heathrow you will hit it sooner!
Does that mean the price from Paddington to Heathrow on the TFL rail is part of the oyster capping charge or not?
it IS capped yes, which is currently £12.50
First thing that happens to unknowing tourists arriving in the UK at Heathrow is they get ripped off! The impression given by the greeting ticket sellers when I passed through last week is that you have to take the express service to Paddington. Signs for the very much cheaper but admittedly longer trip on the tube via the Piccadilly Line are almost invisible, being minuscule. Inexcusable, Heathrow authorities!
Isn’t Southall missing from the connect map?
Are these the trains that were used from Kings Cross to Stratford for the Olympics?
dizzyduck44 no
I am glad it is coming soon
Is the tunnel section between Liverpool st and farringdon opening in December?
The plan is to open all the way from Abbey Wood to Paddington (low level), which will include Liverpool Street to Farringdon, yes. Connecting up the Shenfield and Heathrow/Reading services to the core will come later though.
When the Padd to LHR stared you could check your bags and I think get a boarding pass at Padd.
How long it takes from Heathrow to Paddington? Because I imagine it’s not as fast as the Heathrow express, but maybe faster than underground
namariemuse Should be around half an hour.
Quite a step down from that train to the platform. One must really "mind the gap".
Rode an old class 360 on this line yesterday, it had a tfl livery though.
The machete looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE 👍👍
Ikr
I bet those ticket barriers at Heathrow will cause delays, it's not as if the tunnels they're located in are especially wide. I've previously used HEx with a print at home ticket, will the gates read printed barcodes?
I'm not sure how the barriers are set up, but surely it could end up making transferring between terminals more difficult for people to do as well if you have to go through them?
Yes, isn't it free to transfer between Heathrow terminals, e.g. from 2 to 5?
Why are there speakers on the outside of the doors