NFL owners discuss QB salary cap; 18-game season (Full PFT PM) | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this edition of PFT PM, Mike Florio discusses Travis Kelce's reaction to the Super Bowl ring typo before diving into a potential QB salary cap. Florio wonders who could be the first NFL QB to make $60 million per year before giving an update on the impending 18-game season. To close, Florio opens the mailbag to answer fan questions. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #nfl
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NFL owners discuss QB salary cap; 18-game season (Full PFT PM) | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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How bout put a cap on tickets and stadium food n beverages?
Keep the full PFT episodes coming 👍🏼.
A QB-specific salary cap is a shortsighted fix for the issue here. Just set a maximum salary cap percentage that can be spent on any single player, ie no singular player can account for more than 18 - 20% of the salary cap for a team at any time. It keeps the league from targeting specific player groups and could be sold as a net positive for the rest of the non-qbs in the Player's Union
Your idea is an improvement on a salary cap for qbs and the best way to implement a salary cap. But there has to be a salary cap it's gotten insane. there is no football without special team players, lineman, there is no reason one player gets 800,000 while a bust like Dak gets $60 million.
This is a really good idea.
ALL Salary restrictions: Team Cap., Position Cap., % of Cap., whatever, should be enumerated within the CBA.
Only this will remove any whining from anyone, owner or player (regardless of position.)
Florio has been calling for exactly this for years @@zachwallace8274
That would do it IMHO.
The typo on the SB ring is just one more dig at Tyreek for taking the bag over more rings with KC. I love it.
no one offered Lamar Jackson for "2 1st rd picks" because everyone knew the Ravens would match that offer
100%. This has always been known to anyone paying attention. Yet people(mostly media) want to pretend otherwise, and sometimes even make it about race 🙄…. GTFO with that divisive bullshit narrative for click bait
I bought Playmakers for my father when it came out. He had been waiting for the release of it. It was the last book he reqd before he passed away and enjoyed it greatly. I read it after I inherited it. It is a great book. Thank you.
Sorry for your loss
So glad you are ok. Good news for anyone. You make the NFL better so stay healthy
You're the best Florio! I am glad that you will be sticking around for a long time.
Super Bowl ring goof is only important to you. One more molehill to make a mountain out of. No matter what you think, I'd bet Kelce doesn't give acrap.
wow, after yer brilliant take on smoking, you somehow still had the brain power to come up with yer another absolutely brilliant take on KCs SB rings... keep up all the good work, smartie :•O yikes....
You should do more court/law things in the office season. Your take is refreshing
Getting the word that you're not dying is always a plus!
Significantly better than the alternative, that's for sure.
Nobody cares
@@slyhuotobviously you do, since you took time to reply
Imagine if someone had actually left a message to someone that they were!
Amen 🙏🏽
Great news from the Doc Florio!!
“Funny How” I’m dead Mike lmao🤣🤣🤣
Keep the full PFT episodes coming! 👍
I have PVCs too. 1 out of 10 Americans have PVC. A lot of times it is unnoticeable. That "heartburn" or "heart attack" feeling is typically due to caffeine. Making your heart work overtime. My doctors recommended cardio exercise in order to strengthen the heart. The fact that you are constantly doing cardio is likely why you are doing so great AND why you never really experienced PVCs until now. Just my two cents. Don't sue me. :-)
Hey, Mike - just really glad to hear you got good test results. I know a tiny bit about how it's tough to get behind the mic and entertain when you have a lot weighing on you. Thanks for being real and sharing!
Mike, hear me out. You and Simms on a podcast, he smokes his weed, you drink or smoke a cigar and just talk ball. F-bombs encouraged! "Blunts and Blitzes" w/ Simms & Florio.
Make it happen!
Off brand, won't happen.
You might be on to something: PFT on NBC is regimented and corporate - a chill conversation from the barn would be a nice change...
@@CapeCodPhilip a conversation from the barn, has better ring to it for a NBC product from 2 NBC employees, then blunts and blitzes lol
It’s great to hear you’re healthy.
QB cap is needed. Cannot be paying QB's 55MIL when they cant win a playoff game, or beat Mahomes .
Congratulations on your good health news! Are you going to do the picks podcast with Chris this year?
What Pinball machine (or machines) do you own Mike? I remember seeing one in the background of your living room setup a few years ago, but could make out which one it was.
Move ALL THE BYE WEEKS to weeks 8-10, or 9-10.
Makes ZERO sense for 2 teams to have a BYE Week 6, and 2 have a BYE Week 12
LOL
18games u spread the 2 bye weeks out
Weird take. Most teams use up their entire cap. Florio acts like the owners pocket the cash. They actually share the revenue and dole out per the CBA.
very few teams use up their whole cap
I spent 15 years in Southern West Virginia. A lot of Vikings fans in that part of the state. Still a lot of love for Randy Moss
There is a great episode of Modern Family where Phil gets a phone message from his doctor and this is his reaction...it's comedy gold
Brady’s teammates got more because Brady got less. That’s the way the salary cap works! Florio blatantly lying about this so often is ridiculous!
Exactly, it's not a complicated formula. Mahomes and brady took less and have 7 out of the last 10 superbowls because they were able to build better teams around them.
Jeeze Florio your medical provider doesn't have an online portal you can enter to see your test results? This some real Mayberry RFD type shi 😂😂😂😂😂
He's probably just too old to figure it out 😂😂
Yeah, I wondered about that. I get all my test results through my patient portal.
@Mr_Mcfeely I'm 69 years old, and I get mine through my patient portal. The only time I ever got a phone call was when it was something bad, and I needed to know my options. It's weird that he talks so much about his health issues to people he doesn't know. A little neurotic.
Who still goes to doctors after covid? Sheesh
@@kingjosephrbidenjriii5820people with chrons disease, I should know, I have it. It ain't pretty, and pretty painful
Ive been arguing caps on positions for years now. Then the stars become capped out then as the cap raises other members of the team start getting the benefits from new money.
Then caps on position can raise together over time.
They should have a QB salary cap, this is spiraling out of control.
The ring will be highly valued for collectors down the road.
Yes..Just like error sports cards are...some are very valuable!
“Indefinite Florio” thank the lord!!!
Quality Bad Santa reference (RIP Bernie Mac)
Everyone is dying he just isn't dying faster than normal 😂
I would not give up two first round draft picks for Lamar. I don’t even think he’s a two-time MVP.
The Bills will take care of Josh, maybe before this season. I'm confident that Josh will be reasonable with help making the cap dynamics as flexible as possible.
Ok Florio can I sue you for giving me a personality disorder?? lmk k ty 😂
Its not 32 different businesses its like 1 business and 32 franchises.
Thats awesome for you so glad results are good news stay healthy stay safe your life is always more important then 🏈
I can see QB salary cap be up to 1/6 of the teams salary cap
Didn't the shield say on PMS that he doesn't want pre-season football and potentially more playoff teams.
Didn't KC pay Mahomes half a billion dollars for a 10 year contract? Since then, $50 million per year for a QB has become the standard offer for the position...
why? if he’s the best why are they payed more
Yes and it was a dumb contract, it wad heavily home town for cheifs, but he is also guaranteed all his money( it rolls every 2 years, first 2 years guaranteed then next year , year 2 and 3 guaranteed then next 3 and 4 ect ect) It's why when ppl gay mad at deshaun watson guaranteed money I laughed, the only reason mahilmes is like that is because his owner DOES NOT have 500 million in cash to give the. Nflpa( guaranteed money is payed to the nflpa UP FRONT and kept in escrow till that year they then give it to the player at the start of the new league year)
Again, a lot of ppl know nothing on these subjects but act like they know what's good and what's bad.
I would keep the incorrect ring. It's part of the story now, makes it different.
Damn Mike!! 27mph for a full hour?!!! Wow! Besides the stationary bike, do you cycle outdoors on the roads out there in W. Virginia?
Qb's salaries are getting ridiculous this next man up breaks the bank is ridiculous. Teams are held hostage
Isn't tom essentially getting this info confirmed out there a good thing though? We know what's coming down the line and what the badge wants. This is good to know.
Yall forget Brady took those deals because without a top 10 defense and special teams, he’d never have made a single bowl. 💀 he NEEDED the studs around him
18 games, fine. Expand rosters to 60, and make mandatory snap counts across rosters, etc, so players are playing less snaps, done.
Also, with 18 games, it makes sense to have 2 bye weeks.
I LOVE THIS GUY BRO🤙🏼❤️🐬🫡
Id love to see a 24 week season with 3 bye weeks for a toral of 21 regular season games. The 3 bye weeks is the only way to sell it to the union, and it should be able to guarantee each team gets a bye once every 7 weeks.
Maybe it was a diss against Tyreek Hill and Miami Dolphins...?
Florio: you have a flawed NPV calculation on winning.
Brady sacrificed salary in short term for long term legacy and now has the real equity you miss: he has brand equity as the GOAT.
He can get paid tens of millions just for being himself. Shaq appeal
The difference is we assume that 8 year old is gonna grow up to work a regular job where that mindset wouldn’t be healthy. If you’re getting paid millions to play a game then yeah winning at all costs is the objective, even if that means taking a few less million to do so.
Contracts should be based on performance...
Mike why are the people that pay the players and the owners never discussed?? US! And we have no vote or say in anything. Pay them means higher ticket prices etc. so annoying
Yes congratulations you’re doing well
🤔 position salary cap as a percentage of team salary cap. Say a qb gets 20% for 5 years meaning every time the salary cap goes up so does the qbs check but it is always the same percentage.
You should hire someone who provides timestamps on all your long videos. Pretty sure you can afford it. And I know we'll all be happier for it as well...
Mike is the Mr. Rogers of Sports: speaks intimately as if he's talking to one person (you), not 20,000...
how do you maintain any competitive bidding on QBs if there is a salary cap on the position. It will shortly just become every QB making whatever the cap is.
Qbs don't have a right to feel any type of way with this, their slice of the pie has nearly doubled since 2007. Top rbs career earnings are closer to one year of these qb salaries.
If I were the players, if you expand the season you es t a guarantee of some money if your career ends early due to injury. Something like an annuity of 50% of the contract over a certain time. That’s the only thing I would take
I agree they should have a qb salary cap it should be set at 300 million after that the rest carry over to the regular cap
The players tried to have All Hats game during an strike year in the mid 80s and the league went to Court and squashed it
18 games, up 2. Don't you need a larger roster? Just injury math, more games, more opportunities to get injured and unable to play. No one can change that on either side.
I've never really understood how labor getting together and saying, "no one will work for you for less than this amount" ISN'T collusion, but management getting together and saying, "we'll only pay this much" IS collusion. If these guys (the players) were having to get 2nd jobs so their families could eat, I could understand all the shade you're throwing at the owners, but this is quite obviously not the case. We've arrived at a point where ONE personnel decision can sink a franchise, and if some action isn't taken the league will be in real trouble.
I'm not saying a QB cap is that answer, but an answer needs to be found and the owners have every right to discuss it.
Why have Josh Allen's picture in your thumbnail?
He's actually underpaid by today's QB contract standard..
They will be the most valuable super bowl rings
Thank you Cleveland for making ownership want a cap. They should cap screwing fans on tickets. Then again what do I know. 😂
I have no specific love for Tom Brady (I'm a Broncos fan) and I've never paid much attention to the day to day business of the Patriots. But if Brady did prioritise winning over money, that is 100% a good thing. I want my team to win the superbowl. And he'll still have earned lots of money anyway. The lowest paid player in the NFL will earn more money in 1 year than I'll see in my entire life.
As far as exercise goes in your 60s or 70s listen to your body when you exercise. At 35 I could run a 5-minute mile, in my 60s maybe a single 8-minute or higher, I would never push myself to the ragged edge of that midsummer race doing a 5-minute mile in a 5k. You are diminished at those ages if you have a measuring stick to compare and the ragged edge is probably not wise.
Wow. I couldn't do a 5min mile in my 20s lol.
It shouldn’t be just QBs At some point these contracts do have to stop going up if not in a few years QBs and others will be getting like 3 years 2 billion. It’s already ridiculous how much some of these guys make
Wheeling feeling
You know Mike, I NEVER hear you justify why all the money should go to the QB and screw the rest of the players. I know you know there is a salary cap. I also know you know the law of subtraction. So, please spend some time justifying why everyone else should get less because the teams have to overpay the QBs.
I would really love to hear your explanation.
Again, all the other players with many years of sacrifice and effort to be where they are, are going to be limited all b/c someone is the 'face' of a franchise. That is wrong in my book and I would like to hear why I'm wrong.
My answer to Belichick if I was negotiating with him and he asked if I thought I was better than Brady: no, I don’t-but then again, I don’t have a super model wife who makes double what I make.
I would take some measure of petty solace if I were in the Miami organization. It's not a particularly warm comfort, but it'll do.
Florio is the Goat 🐐
Mike a Vikings fan since 1969. I think we were going to draft Pennix. Too much talking about everyone else. Just a hunch. I was bummed Atlanta got him. Please discuss this.
Sounds like the owners already want a new CBA. That's the only way an 18 game season n changes to the salary cap will happen.
Players seem to have the leverage to get at least 50% of the revenue share
Mike, when asked about which team(s) are poised to this season to get hot, the teams you mentioned are all NFC teams until the end when you haphazardly mentioned the Chiefs. What gives?
Mike, you say that about the owners providing stadiums and infrastructure but how many teams are asking for / getting public money.
So now the NFL has your tax dollars, your subscriptions, ticket price, consessions, merchandise.
4:43 as a chiefs fan I literally dont care at all about it and not even remotely embarrassed, so I can totally get Kelce not caring either
When the kid's 8 years old and is always winning, you got yourself a goddamn prodigy, idk what you're on about florio
I think florio missed the fact that because mahomes took a team friendly deal they were able to keep more pieces to keep winning like look at caleb sure we don't know what he will be yet but he's already setting himself up for not needing a big contract.the big company's pay a shitload for sponsorship deals and you only have those types of deals if your winning
No matter what they agree to on the QB salary cap, there WILL be a Haslem out there who's going to say, 'I own my company! Don't tell ME what to do!' (Snicker) Of course, people could look at how that turned out and shy away...
I feel NFL should have pay based on play time as starter or backup cause I feel it ain't fair if a backups has to do a starters job for way less n if they do they should get that starters pay not backup pay every game should pay half the salary n the other half is ur base pay for all the other stuff it would work just a lil complicated at first then all players get paid the same at ur position n rank
6 min later actual football
Every time I wake up pft is on my tablet then I see u n Simms n he is red eyed n that makes me smoke n now I'm a huge human blunt that's drunk n confused because u do that to my brain u better help me bro lol love the pod kutgw
That’s how he won 7 championships… stop it… now he is legend and will make more in a broadcasting career…
If they want to enjoy the benefits of the "equity" then they should be willing to take on part of the debt!! Everyone is making too much money but only a few are holding the responsibility of keeping it all going!
I was diagnosed with chrons disease, back in the mid 80s. I know what you're goin though. Anyday above the dirt, is a good dau
No player is worth 60 million a year. No player should make more than 10 million a year period. This is totally ridiculous. There playing a game. If they don't like it don't play.
I would cap qbs pay at 15% of cap wich goes up every year. They did it with rookie scale contracts
As much as I hope Anthony Richardson is the answer in Indy…I still say the Colts should’ve tried to go after Lamar
Come on mike, everything in moderation don't have to exercise everyday 😅
They need to restructure quarterback contracts by skills you can't have the 15th best quarterback make the most just because he was the last quarterback signed it's absurd.. now every other quarterback that is just as good or worse is it going to get paid more outrageous
Broncos still had to eat a lot of dead cap cutting Wilson
2:05 dik broke
Get a better camera, move your mic, Mike.
McAfee during the day, Florio at nite 😈😈😈
The infrastructure can be provided WITHOUT THE OWNERS.
The players need to create their own "player owned" league.
They need to just set it up, not as leverage, BUT AS AN ACTUAL LEAGUE.
The owners have no power beyond their money.
The players have more than enough money and support from the public.