Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 VR RAW FIRST IMPRESSION! BUY or AVOID? Pimax CRYSTAL LIGHT - RTX 4090
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- HERE IT IS! My raw first impressions of Microsoft Download Simulator 2024 in VR, using the Pimax Crystal Light. IS it as good as the hype? Do I recommend changing from 2020 in its current state? Well in this video I give you my unfiltered opinion (as always). So pull up a chair and let's dive in!
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I just started the download of MSFS 2028 - you cant start early enough
The aircraft will all be AI drones by then, so all the aircraft will be unflyable
😂
If only the download was the problem. Even the instruments and co-pilot is streaming 😂 not kidding
Plan on sitting there ALL DAY LONG!
Ahhh that made me laugh!
I'm actually quite pleased with the performance I'm seeing so far with very little effort - very smooth with few stutters, if any. I am running DLSS, not TAA. I've gone back and forth quite a few times, and still don't see an appreciable benefit with TAA. Crystal Light, 4070ti, 13600, 32GB.
Around what FPS are you getting?
@@Zane4428 Typically high 30s, sometimes dipping to high 20s around LA and SF. But it seems to me subjectively smoother than 2020. Terrain LOD 200 and Object LOD 100. I expect this to improve as I spend more time on optimizations.
@@jakeperl5857 Thnx & have fun out there!
DLSS does seem to be the answer so far. I couldn't stand DLSS upscaling in 2020 but like you said the difference from TAA seems to be less noticeable in 2024 (at least with the latest DLSS file version of 3.8.10). I tried DLSS-Quality along with OpenXR DFR-Quality and FULL render resolution and I seem to get my 45+ FPS again with medium-high graphics settings.
Yeah I've never gone with TAA in my Quest 3 either. The use of DLSS with the motion smoothing technology with Virtual Desktop really does help performance all be it at a lot lower resolution.
For the mouse bug, with the Quest 3, if you tap a button on the quest controller, you regain mouse functionality.
😮
Using left hand on honeycomb alpha, right hand using bravo with quest controller. I like learning what the buttons in the cockpit do. Big smile when lowered ramp on Chinook. Then went dark at night and flew night stalker style through a city
Centering can be bound to a HOTAS button. That was like the first thing I set on all my keybind profiles.
I've always found the space bar to be absolutely fine for me. But the shift key?! Come on Asobo.. 😅🤦
@@VRFlightSimGuythese guys don't care about VR.
@@VRFlightSimGuy I suppose space bar is now 'reset fuse on secondary backup hydraulic system' or something
@@VRFlightSimGuy Right!?! :)) Was asking the same thing, why break something if it works. Now we need to re-train our muscle memories lol
@@blacksto1 they changed most of the shortcuts for no reason, like whyyyy
Thanks for that I'll definitely wait as I'm happy with 2020
They introduced the quad view in DCS , which also has been playing a big role to smooth things out in VR.
Thanks for the first views Steve! You have a 500Mb/s connection and I have 24, LOL! So glad I skipped the pre-order. DLSS is implemented apparently with a Vortex mod which will improve framerates. JZ 2Cents clearly demonstrated the software is poorly optimizing hardware at this point in the release, sad to be sure but good luck fiddling with it. I'll stick with 2020 for now. (Oh, you also need HAGS on now to take advantage of DLSS apparently. PLUS use DLSS Swapper to update the game to 3.8.1, ASOBO still supplied 2024 with the same DLSS version as 2020, LOL!)
Please do a Q3 optimization video. I have a 4090 and 7950x3d but still need some tweaking. Using OpenXr and link cable.
As much as I wanted to buy 2024, something just told me that it wasn't going to be a good launch so I opted to avoid at least for now. I run 2020 with older hardware (i9 10900 & 3090 + G2) but it works well for me to continue using it. Thanks for the first look Steve and I'll be watching the progress on your channel :)
Horrendous launch aside, once you’re in the performance is actually quite good. Because it’s truly multithreaded it just runs smoother when you’re flying. It’s great right now for VFR flying, IFR flying stick with 2020 right now.
You made the right choice, if you didn't know it was a new game, you'd think you were playing FS2020).
@@JohnDoe-yq9rt I can see that being true if you're one of those magenta line jockeys, but as soon as you get on the ground the difference is staggering :)
I'm betting you are over 35 ? You are displaying patience and understanding - something these rabid "must have now...."youngsters don't own.
@@regwatson2017 haha yes I am over 50 actually and can still be impulsive at times but yeah I tend to be more patient than I used to be :)
I still haven't bought this yet and reading all the frustrated comments in your Discord from everybody trying to get this working still have no desire to mess around with it for a while. I've got two weeks off over Christmas, I think I'll look into picking it up then.
I actually went for a hike in some fields and forests in VR yesterday.. it was awesome! I even petted a sheep! Oh and I did some flying too! While the performance could be better (matter of time) it's all really promising :)
Honestly, for a while I wasn't sure if you were trolling or not, and just went outside for a walk. :D
Sssh, you're not allowed positive feedback or a glass half full mentality. OUTRAGE is the order of the day... performance is far better on my 3080 in flat. Haven't tried vr yet. Letting it cook and trying my best not to be OUTRAGED!
What game was the hike on? Getting my set tomorrow, do you recommend any non traditional games?
@@SolidMikeP Preeetty sure it was MSFS 2024.
It's nice to hear reports from Wales !
Hi Steve … my setup 4090 Q3 VD using space warp thingo at 80 (40) DLSS Quality and OpenXR Toolkit CAS up to resolution of 3500 and whilst the first couple of days with 2024 were a bit of a challenge over the last 48 hours it’s improved daily and today the performance was spot on with mostly ULTRA settings. I have noticed that often VR graphics change of settings don’t stick and also I notice that when I change a setting it only becomes effective when I exit and reload MS2024!??!! Finally, with Dynamic ON, seems to use some clever computations to keep FPS up and slowly but surely the graphics get better and better (and probably cache). Finally finally …. I love how smooth this thing is compared to 2020 - cockpit super quality and smooth as !
Thanks for balanced review. I'm not crazy or incompetent after all. My experience is so much different than what I expected from other reviews. I concur with your analysis.
Once they get things sorted, I want to try downloading local cache for like one area of the world (probably small islands to start), just to see if it improves the orthophotos over waiting for things to stream.
I've been thinking the same. I've currently got it set to 30gb
I thought I heard that local caching was disabled for now. I just did a quick flight yesterday but forgot to check.
My Vive Pro 2 worked right away without any(!) settings changes in good quality and not stutters. Well, while only every third time the servers are available, if it works it is absolutely great
4090, 5800x3d, VP2 at 3856x3856 pixels, settings i don't know rn since i didn't change
I am sorry, but I don’t agree that “this is doable”. You are playing with a 4090 which is the best of the best currently and it can’t keep up. I just can’t see any good news at all
It can tho.. He's getting low frames because of TAA.
I'm having a pretty smooth experience in vr (minus the server issues) with my 4080 and DLSS on. And everything is still very sharp.
@@ciri151 I tried DLSS in VR with my 4080 and its still pretty blurry. So many settings to get dialed in again. I do get a solid 30 FPS in VR with TAA, but certainly not happy with it yet.
@@ciri151 Picture quality with DLSS-quality is much worse compated to 120%TAA I am able to use with FS2020. I think there is quite a lot of room for optimization.
I'm getting about 40fps with most settings on low, with DLSS and with foveated rendering enabled with openxr toolkit, running on a 3080. It's very much playable, but doesn't look that great. A tad better than MSFS2020, at least in some ways though. I'm loving the career mode and that's the main reason i'm playing the sim.
I’ll definitely look at getting MSFS 2024 in... 2030. Hoping the hardware is up to running it (with good vr FPS) by then.
Excellent performance once I got everything under control and running. Worked well with pimax and quest 3 airline. I took longer to load using air link and got a few stutters. When tethered to pimax by cable it was smooth as silk. I do miss my favorite plane from 2020.
Great video, thank you for sharing all the issues. Will definitely wait a month or two before purchasing and hope they work out the bugs.
Tried this morning just in flatscreen for now. It’s getting better but in high density areas the streaming is still not there. You can see the potential though . It is the lighting and the integration of ground textures that is a big step forward. I did the London discovery flight and then flew it in feee flight mode and you can see the difference ( clearly they just ported over the discovery flights ). I’m on 500mb internet and I assume it will get better once the servers calm down .
Hopefully they'll get things in a better state in a few weeks. I'll definitely wait until I make the jump. Still excited to see what this sim becomes!
Great Vid, What software did you use to record it? Cheers!
Came for the roar impressions, wasn’t disappointed 😂
I used to bite my tongue and hold my breath, scared to rock the boat and make a mess! 😂 Couldn't resist.
2nd day and over 40 trys to get to end of loading, not a happy bunny Thanks for the video, seriously thinking about the Crystal Light thanks to you lol
Thanks buddy - 45 mins later 😂 It was a bit like a comedy wasn’t it. Glad it wasn’t just me. I’m sure this time next week things ‘should’ be better!
I bought mine and it works like a charm except for minor annoyances in steamVR where the screen jitters for a moment whenever I tilt my head but I’ve managed to get my crystal light working without asking for help from others.
I really wanna start sleeping in vr with my pimax crystal light
Great job Steve! Aren't you glad I bought you all those headaches?😂😂😂😂😂 You're welcome😅😅
I put the render quality in Pimax play to 0.85 and used the latest version of DLSS, and I seem to be making progress. RTX4090, 14900K, DDR5 6000MTs, Pimax Crystal @ 90hz. Will keep tinkering around with it all.
I hope you can give us a idea how set it up, for best performance with a midrange computer. Stil use the HP reverb G2
I managed to get in today. I did two flights in the DA62, one flatscreen and one in VR. It was silky smooth mostly but the graphics are still bad, even on high. I flew the H125 in VR too and had a few freezes. The lighting is great and the effects are good but they need more work on the servers. I'm on a Quest3, VDXR, RTX3070.
This afternoon I've been trying to load anything for 2 hours before finally I got some flighttime in career mode, wich then crashed after I finished the first flight... lovely stuff
As always, great video! In your video, you mention about different FPS values. How do you see the FPS value in VR headset? I use a Varjo Aero. Thanks in advance.
Great Game on SeriesX, played since Realise with no Problems.
It looks that i am a lucky One😅🖖
But for SeriesX it is a great step(...when it runs& for me it works great).
All the improvments in Cockpit(PDA, female Copilots😍...), the Graphics & the really cool Carreer.
Really love it👨🏼✈️👍
Downloading wasn’t an issue for me as I did it at 3am. However, incremental flap failure, lower vr fps than MSFS2020, blurry ortho due to streaming issues and two crashes later I feel like MSFS2024 is an expensive gem delivered to us in a pile of shit. I’m glad I didn’t uninstall 2020 in DX11 as I’m going back to it for now.
I had a Crystal Light and it SUCKED! At the 15:25 mark of your video, you said (about the Crystal) “as long as you get a decent one”. You mean some of them are better than others? In my case, it was OK in MSFS….but HORRIBLE in iRacing. I was unable to read the text on the billboards and (compared to my G2), everything looked kinda weird….plus it made my eyes feel weird…and I’ve never had that problem in VR before.
At first iRacing was abysmal but I followed a guide on youtube and now i'm running it at 120fps. The PCL made my eyes feel buggy, too - so I ordered lens inserts as I'm slightly far sighted. Now it looks much much better, but yes - you play the Pimax Lotto when you buy from them. I got lucky.
You'd probably getting better performance on a Quest 3 and a good wireless connection, because of Virtual Desktop's ASW, and your PC only needing to render half the target framerate.
Have you noticed the vr graphics dynamic setting is turned on? I believe this will change various graphics settings to maintain a target fps.
Like it the few moments the loading is not stuck. Looks more real indeed. Hope servers get better soon
In US, 6pm est, game loads right up. VR yesterday with quest3, 9800x3d and 4070ti super seemed fine but didn’t have fps counter up. Will do more testing and let you know
Hi Steve - I have a 4090 as well .. Have you tried DLSS Quality --- seems to be more FPS bang for the buck than TAA - ALSO less shimmers on certain textures - ENJOY your vids as always - PEACE
Hey David, yes although you lose too much clarity especially with glass gauges
@@VRFlightSimGuy- ensure you use DLSS Swapper to change out the obsolete DLSS that ships with both 2020 & 2024. It makes a huge difference in VR, everything is readable, etc.
@@RolandDobbinsthat should be Asobo’s job to make sure they release with the latest and best version of DLSS. Ridiculous that it’s up to users to hack something like this in, while they pockets millions of cash
@@RolandDobbins any tutorials on how to do this?
Pretty good tutorial:
th-cam.com/video/91JUklBj5ls/w-d-xo.html
If the mouse stops working, use a vr controller to move one switch and it will restore the mouse function.
It seems to have something to do with when the right-mouse-drag is used to rotate the camera. That seems to disable the interaction mode for the left-mouse button. I can usually get the interaction mode to come back after some combination of right mouse clicks.
@@jgarretsAKA OVERLAYS.
I’ve never even taken my VR controllers out of the box. All I do inVR is flight sim and with a full HOTAS setup there was no need to use controllers.
How do we get the bar overlay,where you can contact ATC or change weather etc? Used to be push a mouse button or a controller button.
@@peteseven7180 I found that missing in mine as well. Tomorrow when I open it back up, I need to look for the 'toggle toolbar' and bind it to something. I was able to contact ATC by binding a button on my yoke to 'display ATC'.
DCS still the best in VR
I actually like BMS much more as a sim, VR is great there. DCS is a solid 2nd to me.
Thanks!
Can't wait for you to put out a video that shows how we can dial in our settings to make it work much better ;)
Stay tuned :)
I never got msfs 2020 to work in VR. Best I ever did was to get it working for a few minutes at a time and then suddenly the framerate would just tank to a slideshow after between 5 and 10 minutes and I'd have to restart the game. If performance is just "worse" but without whatever was broken for me in the old game, I would be totally happy. I tried to solve it for ages without luck
4090: pretty much had to set all VR settings to LOW to get smooth frame rate.
This. I didn't even try without eye tracking
Yeah, i dont belive any of these youtubers now, they are so full of shit its not funny. I have lost 30% performance in VR, on a 7800x3d/4090.
The game is total shite.
omg
This is still a server issue guys - UK servers are borked. VPN to America or Asia and it works fine.
I fully got in for 3 hours straight, no lag, no CTDs and glorious looks.
Yea low setting runs much better then medium and high in VR
After the yesterday’s nightmare, today I was finally able to test the sim, and oh my goodness!
The difference between 2020 and 2024 is huuuge! It will take some time until they fix all of the problems , and there are many, but really, this is the way to go, especially in VR. The lightning, the buildings, grass, trees, texture, clouds, cities lightning, cars, are way better than 2020. No more Map Enhancement, Rex acuseasson, atmos , etc. BTW, Flying in the night / evening over cities is wonderful. Much more realistic than 2020, and I think realism it’s what we all want. Give it some time, and I assure that this is the best realistic flight sim ever made. I had a silky smooth flight today, and trust me, I use dlss quality, almost ultra, and override resolution to 4320 in openxr toolkit, with Hp reverb G2.
There are always some problems on the first few days. I am holding off until they shake out. What I am loving is how avid simmers are discovering that just flying a jet is boring. One guy using the flying parachute says he is never going back. I said that 25 years ago on the Avsim forum and got totally flamed. The "Digital Tourist" has finally come of age. So has the scenery of course. Even Jorg said yesterday that he is surprised at how Asobo has matched the ground textures to the real world. He said he does not know how they manage to do that.
The physics definitely feel better than 2020, the terrain is more detailed, I have yet to see any issues where water meets land. Yesterday was a disastrous launch, but things are certainly improved today. No buyer’s remorse at this point from me, but I think it is fair to say that this is more of an evolution than a revolution. VR with the Quest 3 and Virtual Desktop seemed very smooth overall.
17:51 I think you would call a cloud of snowy vapor in real life a 2d sprite too :-P
Performance was woeful on my first couple of flights, but it did improve and was actually very smooth and enjoyable after a while. So maybe it was because of the server issues, background loading, building shader cache or something.
That mouse bug is a right pain though, I found that tapping any button on my Xbox controller would return mouse function.
I think it has potential but was definitely released undercooked, so many bugs. The big suits were probably pushing to have it out in November, ready or not.
Im looking forward to patches hopefully soon!
Hopefully this helps someone....it was unplayable for me, but then I turned off the Live Air Traffic in Flight Conditions and also set the Dynamic VR setting to on and to 30 fps. Now I'm flying around Philadelphia currently at a steady 35 fps. Sucks to not have the Live traffic for now, but until the servers settle down, it may help everyone to turn it off.
What does your GPU usage look like? Curious if you're CPU or GPU limited (or both) right now
Thank you for this totally honest review, just a shame I bought it and experienced everything you have first hand 😂 just to list out some other bugs I’ve seen:
1) on landings Gibraltar the aircraft keeps speeding up with it without auto throttle.
2) aircraft position changes randomly
3) sounds in vr are weird sometimes very loud wind in the a320.
Thanks for the review man. For this price this really isn't enough, saved me from a headache. Gotta wait for the 5090 and 9950X3D ig.
No need to VPN. I think a saw in the sim a spot to change the servers to another area.
As usual, can't wait to have your first impression and review.
For me tonight it was a pleasure to fly, ne Network troubles, beautiful sim!
I compared places in msfs 2024 and 2020 and it's a huge gain especially in mountain regions.
I just can't explain why there is still trees in desert region like in reunion island. Too much trees in some parts. But I love what I see, really.
Have to install beta version of srs for my H3.
Seems to be loading better now just done a couple more small flights in differant planes
10:43 Steve, I'm having the exact same issue with the mouse as you are. I found that if I use [shift] to exit VR and then [shift] again to go right back into VR, it takes care of the problem.
Taking over your comments section but have to say as a non-pilot I was happy with the flight model of the Cessna 172, plus the FFB on my CLS-60 is working!
Great vid as always thanks! At 16:45, when you got a stuck screen, I keep getting this all the time mid flight. Is that a sim problem or a GPU problem?
Thanks for the video !
Spot on Steve I have the same problems. Your review is just prefect.
Thanks mate much appreciated 😊
"WILL BE A SLIDESHOW FEST" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Remember to replace the dlss file to the latest version with the replacer tool, they again included some very old version....
What does that do? Is that for nvidia cards only?
Updates the DLSS to the newest version. Game comes with DLSS version from 2022. Huge improvement to the quality.
3:26 no, it's because you still show off graphics in 1080p
Give it time and everything will work out. I didn’t expect much more on release day to be honest.
How come you are an apologist. They’ve taken people’s money so the sim should work as advertised.
@ I understand that for sure. It’s just this sim is a huge undertaking, there is no way in chance it would run perfect on day one.
@@royevans1882 They didn't take anything? People choose to pay. Don't get me wrong, the state of it is horrible for what's supposed to be a full release. But it's still your own fault for pre-purchasing games at this day and age when all games seem to be in, at best, beta when they release. I never pre-purchase anymore.
@ what a stupid thing to say. If you pay for goods it’s expected the goods are to the standard advertised. That’s how business works. If it’s faulty or not as advertised it isn’t the fault of the purchaser but the company selling you the goods.
@ we’re talking about a major video game release. Are you seriously surprised at this situation? It’s only happened a thousand times.
I have tried DLLS and i think it's great. i can reach 60fps with the same setup than you
I suffered the mouse problem as well. I found if I ctl tab out of VR then back into VR I can regain the mouse....If pimax is MSFS preferred VR headset, I would have thought this issue should have been picked up early on in testing.
Haven't been able to run a VR flight on FS2024 yet but DX12 is necessary to get 4 cores running the graphics. FPS seems to be a streaming issue hence your bandwidth low message. I always ran DX12 TAA in FS2020 with better performance than DX11! 14900KS and 4090.
Yep DX12 was always better for me 2
Performance is quite good
This is the new Crysis 😂 in many ways. Thx for the vid bud
Think i'll wait a while, 2020 is good enough for me for now
You made it through 97%. Congrats.
Aaaah yes the video I have been waiting for!! #97Club 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
😂 That was yesterday's
@@VRFlightSimGuy Oh I saw that one too. LOL.
Not sure if this has anything to do with it but Seattle was experiencing some very bad wind storms. If the servers are located here that could explain some of the problems.
They should just add in an option which auto pauses the entire flight until all visible textures on landscape are loaded and then continue on. I’d prefer that than flying through half loaded landscapes.
im using dlss quality mode and ultra settings v/r and its smooth as butter 10900k 32gb ram 4090 and the pimax crystal
Hi Steve thanks for the video, finally got it working however the data streaming is awful at the moment, I assume it's a server issue as I'm getting 930 mbs at the PC. London was crap for me in 2024, I went back to London in 2020 clear and full photogrammetry no lag. Hopefully as it works so well now in 2020 it will only be a matter of time before it's working in 2024.
Hi Steve, I also had the issue with non-interaction with the cockpit controls. It appeared to come and go. Strangely the ingame menu also was an issue for me. You can assign the old controls for VR but only the ingame menu was an issue and couldn't get it to work. As I configure and fly planes, I'm finding so many issues and broken planes that I will be using 2020 for a while yet. Hopefully Asobo will address the issues. There's just so many of them. Don't understand how it was considered ready for release and why testing wasn't given more emphasis. Oh well, time will hopefully see resolution.
The graphics is phenomenal, I do like the lighting in the transition from light to darkness, you definately feel the warmth of the sun disappearing as the cold is setting in - that's been nailed. Just to debunk some things Steve, I think you've alluded to it already, the bandwidth requirements are not as demanding as folks make out. I flew around London and the photogrammetry was as good as I've every seen it and I have AI and user traffic. My internet speed is 72 Mbps so the issues are server based. Although there's quite a few bugs in the core sim and the UI is shockingly bad, hopefully overtime these will get addressed!
A new benchmark for patience 🥱
Did you understand if the dynamic graphic settings ( target fps) is working?
Are you using frame generation?
On the plus side, the multiplayer NetCode is beautiful and perfect for formation flying, compared to 2020 which suffers horribly from rubber banding.
2024 aircraft in close formation and completely stable
It's default capped in settings to 30fps, if you want more if your GPU can do it set it higher, I have that VR mouse bug also, not at first but afterward you lose control function, don't know what cause this. I see you are also strugling to get that top menu working in VR. Me also with my G2 VR headset.
@@SparkySven the menu didn't work for me in VR either. Just more evidence that proves how little effort Asobo put into testing their product with VR.
@@xjrthirteen It does work but if it stop working hit escape, then resume and works again
Anyone else feel like the center of rotation while walking around in VR is slightly 'off'? It feels like the pivot point of the virtual camera doesn't match the VR headset's.
You mean the look from behind outside?
@@shawtdusanshawt nah I mean if you are in VR while in the walk around camera - If I look left and right the headset feels like its moving as well as rotating.
I've had MSFS2024 CTD over 20 times so far today. I can get into the game and get "ready" to fly...but as soon as I start clicking pretty much anything, it CTD. Anyone else seeing the same thing?
Middle mouse click for the mouse bug. It used to hide the pointer in 2020 but does this in 24
I'm having far less issues, hardly any actually. But I'm on 1gbit network and using the quest 3 with worse resolution. But very satisfied with the sim and graphics so far.
Thanks for the review! I tried to load the sim once yesterday and abandoned it after sitting at "0% - Language Loaded" for an hour. 🤣 One thing, I seem to recall in one of the dev streams that they said they'd target 30 fps for VR, so there's headroom. But I could be mistaken. . .
Got a feeling they’re going to need to add a big download at some point. I’m waiting as I want to play it at its best
I have the same mouse problem. You have to exit VR mode and go back again for it to come back.
Appreciate the video and you fair review.
But what i see in my own game, is 1/2 the issues in you video are server based problems, which we all early adopters are all suffering from. Due to a huge change in how MSFS24 is designed run, in the cloud and not locally stored files/libraries, compared to the latest msfs2020. In game issues seem to get a lot worse once the whole of the USA come online, after 3pm GMT.
So there some obverse improvements to be made.
VR seems buggy and it nice to have a slider, to.reduce the number if trees on the map.
But once everyone's installed the game. Lets hope things get better.
I'd recommend the std version, as I have. As it not too much for the state of the game at the moment.
And people who Pre ordered it should have got access a day or two before the general public. Helping with the download issues. But once all the downloads have reduced in 3-4 days time, then let's see whats it like.
All sims seem problatic on launch, I remember the launch of MSFS2020 and early XP12 days.....no winners in this department.
Dlss is a must for now in my opinion. We need pimax to deliver on smart smoothing. When smart smoothing doesn t glitch like hell, it seems to help the situation. Having to lower res like this is just too sad...
When smart smoothing on, what actually are you seeing different? I tried it both on and off and can see no difference except the anomalous graphical glitching if below about 45FPS. Maybe if you can describe it, It can help me focus on what to look for. Thanks!
@@bakzetary3145 I have less ghosting but a lot of artefacts. I don t mean that it is viable as of now, but maybe something to look forward to. We ve been waiting for a while though. I managed to have decent performance results tonight. I m using dlss, a lot of low and medium settings. Res override in openxr toolkit at 3900 x xxxx. Half frame locked in pimax play. Still, the sim is in a very unstable state, so there is not much we can do but wait for asobo and ms to fix. I do think there is a lot of potential, but right now it s hard to be fully optimistic. VR seems to be treated as a background feature and certainly not the platform they sold us it would be
I'm not able to give a quality assessment yet as I haven't had much time in 2024 but it does now (~9:00 am UK) seem to load a bit quicker and I can't help thinking it's about the same load time as 2020. Perhaps the fact that they have but up a %age loading progess and narrative with the changing load images may make it seem slower. Still trying to work out how to transfer 2020 stuff across and what that would include, after initial install it did say restart to do that but in My Library I am just getting the whirly circle when I select Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, I assumed it would be a local transfer not streamed somehow. Ideas?
Thank you for your honest review. I purchased the Aviator edition yesterday. I’m in the USA and paid $217, including tax. I wanted to log in but had a horrible time downloading. I got stuck at 97% for three hours. Then I restarted, only to end up in a queue for another three hours.
So, I essentially paid $217 for loading screens and queue screens. I never even got a chance to try the simulator. I have a state-of-the-art system to run this thing because I am an avid simmer. My entire setup is worth about $17,000. I’m not mentioning this to show off-because who am I showing off to? A bunch of other flight simulator enthusiasts? My point here is that I am extremely disappointed.
I canceled my purchase and got a refund. As of this moment, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 might as well not exist for me. I am no longer interested in this software until they get their act together and make it functional.
I am only interested in virtual flying. I have a Pimax Crystal, a super system with a 4090 graphics card, 64 gigs of RAM, and the works. I own every peripheral imaginable. I was extremely excited about this simulation, but it is, and pardon my French, a complete shitshow.
I would have much preferred these developers delay the release by an entire year than put out a product that is not even half-baked. What a disappointment, to say the least. Count me out.
Yeeeahh! You show them!! Get it off your chest! Lol.
Anyone with half a brain would know that to try to download and play a brand new product on Day 1 and this huge would be fraught with downloading issues (just like MSFS2020) and bugs (just like MSFS 2020). So if you wait two weeks the situation will be totally different to what you experienced. The problem is people just have no patience these days and must have everything now and working 100%. Apart from the server download overload issue which could have been avoided by a staggered country release or some other method of release, name me one piece of software that doesn't need a revision within days of being released and the bugs start getting reported. The fact you have a ridiculously expensive system compared to someone with a simple joystick doesn't matter at all. The point is just have a little PATIENCE. I played on the first Amiga wireframe version back in the 80's and was blown away at the time. Look at what you have to look forward to in front of you in 2024 and be a little humble for what they have produced. Just sayin' and I am no Microsoft fan at all.
@@regwatson2017the problem is not the people. The devs are the problem! They should know this game would be allow to pre install before the release date
Curious what you and the community thought of Jayz2cents review of it?
Really banking on more performance. Let us know how the upscaling setting go soon.
I got used to the very low frames per second of flight simulator since the MS-DOS version 🤪🤪😜😜
I am actually quite happy with Vr performance considering day 2. DLSS is way better than TAA. Also I am trying without the 3rd party openxr as it is now available natively in pimax play. Testing it to see if it works. Does anyone know how to get a FPS counter in VR without using the openxr toolkit overlay?
How did you get the toolbar up?
When you are outside the plane and move your head around, there’s a bit of a translation on top of the head rotation that is super nauseating. You rotate your head and the camera rotates but also moves a bit to the side your rotating and it is horrible. Other than that, performance for me has been way better than 2020 on a 4070