Friendship 729 Battle 3 review

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  • @userfriendly4470
    @userfriendly4470 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You made a great job again. Every necessary detail is mentioned in that video, even bh-fh transition .

  • @그냥즐겨-u5m
    @그냥즐겨-u5m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow amazing review ! i m korean. thank you very much dario. very high quality and professional review ^^ thank you

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thnx

  • @gootz2480
    @gootz2480 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.I just bought it and I’m crazy waiting for this to arrive,I’m gonna use it with the blade 729 Friendship Blue Alc + rubber Big Dipper max tension on the otherside.Cheers from Brazil

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice. I hope that it will suit you and that it will bring you many new victories.

  • @silviadour9135
    @silviadour9135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Complete , as always. Thanks for share. Saludos desde Argentina !!

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gracias. Saludos a Argentina 🙂

  • @TimeForGamers
    @TimeForGamers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Odlican video, svaka cast!

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hvala

  • @enoxzr36
    @enoxzr36 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review, actually ordered this rubber a few days ago after good review on forums on it.
    Listening to your review gets me thinking this might be a homerun rubber for my FH, might even try the 38 hardness later on BH

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. I hope you will like it. Let me know your impressions after you try it.

    • @enoxzr36
      @enoxzr36 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DarioGrd played with it for a while now, mainly the 39 hardness, little with the 40 too.
      40 really needs breaking in and comes on late. 39 has bit more speed on slower hits, but is harder to control over the table, this is only very marginally tho. Great rubber overal, everyone thinking about a hybrid should try this first.
      Gonna try the 38 hardness on FH on my harder blade, put the 39 on the softer blade and discard the 40.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@enoxzr36 Excellent! Thank you for this info.

  • @antonyang7273
    @antonyang7273 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best TT equipments review on TH-cam !

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you very much

  • @crazypids723
    @crazypids723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Dario, I love your channel. I have been playing for almost a year with the Loki Arthur China on my FH and BH, after I saw your review. I love the Loki, I think about it as a very cheap alternative to the Dignics 09C with 80-90% of its performance. Now after seen this review, this rubber seems to be equal or better on every aspect compared to the Loki. Do you recommend switching from the Loki to the Battle 3? Is there any aspect where the Battle 3 is worse compared to the Loki Arthur China ? What is your current setup? Still H3 and Victas 22?Thank you in advance!

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. I'm glad you liked the Loki and that you're happy with that rubber.
      As for the comparison, this two rubbers are very similar and there are very few differences, but yes, I would say that the Battle 3 is slightly better in certain segments.
      My current setup is still H3 Neo National BS and Victas V22 Double Extra. I am very happy with these two rubbers as they work very well for my style of play. I am currently in the process of changing the blade, but there will be more about it during the summer on this channel.

  • @alexTeT
    @alexTeT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Спасибо за обзор. Как раз заказал Battle 3 40 и Hurricane 39 National Orange Sponge. Планирую бустерить на один слой Haifu White National.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent. Let me know your impressions of how Battle 3 is when boosted.

    • @alexTeT
      @alexTeT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Мой Battle 3 40 почти не липкий, чистый гибрид. Вращение у него больше, чем у Hurricane 39 National Orange Sponge. Но у Battle 2 Gold 40 - вращение еще больше, это самая сильная накладка по вращению. Battle 2 Gold 40 - липкость тоже очень слабая, тоже гибрид. А у Battle 2 Prov Blue Sponge - липкость очень сильная.
      Hurricane 39 National Orange Sponge - был вначале хорошо липкий, но сейчас липкость уже слабее. Зато отскок увеличился и задержка уменьшилась.
      Жесткость Battle 3 40 - 55°, после 1 слоя бустера - 52°.
      Жесткость Hurricane 39 National Orange Sponge - 52°, после 1 слоя бустера - 49°.

    • @3xet770
      @3xet770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexTeT сейчас играю B2 Prov BS 39 без бустера, очень нравится, но до этого стояла B2 Gold 40, но я её бустерил. На синей губке вращение создать сложнее, сложнее перекинуть мяч через сетку. Но Gold испортился, топшит пробился месяца через 2, такого качества зацепа уже нет. Вот думаю что взять после синей губки, B3 или опять B2 Gold. Какой вам показалось проще играть?
      Как-то нелогично получается, B3 сильно вращает из-за эластичного топшита, а B2 Gold, наоборот, из-за очень жёсткого.

    • @alexTeT
      @alexTeT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@3xet770 Battle 2 Gold я тоже бустерил 1 раз - он не реагирует на бустер, не выгнулся вообще. Зато Battle 3 40 - очень хорошо выгибается, так же как и Hurricane 3 National или Tibhar K3.
      Hurricane 3 National 39 Orange Sponge - мало вращения, плохой тонкий зацеп, сложно делать первый ход. Много контроля. Оригинал - проверял защитный код на сайте.
      Battle 3 40 - гораздо больше вращения, легко делать первый ход, хороший тонкий зацеп.
      Так же для сравнения на то же основание (DHS Fang Bo B2X) наклеил Баттл 2 Голд - вращения еще чуть больше, тонкий зацеп такой же хороший как и у Баттл 3. По ощущениям чуть проще было играть Баттл 2 Голд - у него губка тоньше и легче прожать. Бустеренный Баттл 3 40 - был слишком быстрый на этом основании.
      Наклеил Баттл 3 40 на DHS PG5 - все стало идеально по скорости и мощности, вылетов мало. До этого на этом основании был Баттл 2 Голд и им было сложно сыграть тонко первый ход, у Баттл 3 - таких проблем нет за счет эластичного топшита.
      Слева сейчас бустеренный Tibhar K3 - очень мощно и контрольно играет на PG-5.

    • @alexTeT
      @alexTeT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@3xet770 Играл и B2 Prov BS 38 - завращать и мощно ударить им сложно, он тухлый, на подачах вращения мало. У Б2 Голд губка тоньше заметно (2.15), чем у Б3 (2.3), поэтому прожать и мощно ударить проще Голдом, но тонко сыграть или перекрутить подрезку проще Б3 за счет эластичного топшита. И максимальная мощность и скорость у Б3 выше за счет более толстой губки. Так что советую попробовать Б3 40.

  • @yadisetiadi7284
    @yadisetiadi7284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks ..... Nice explanation

  • @Brozi
    @Brozi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please review the friendship battle 2 as well ;)). It's quite a good alternative to Hurricane 3 neo, since the provincial version is quite a lot cheaper than the H3.

  • @Shylfaen
    @Shylfaen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Curious about your different setups during your table tennis career. Which blades and rubbers depended on your level and when you decided to change?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There was a lot there.
      When I started playing more seriously, I played with Chinese rubber on FH and European tensor rubber on BH on not very fast blade.
      After that, experimentation with materials began... I played with defensive blade and OX long pips on the BH and tensor rubbers on the FH. After that, I replaced the OX long pips with rubber with medium pips, and even later medium pips with short pips rubber. For a long time I played with various short pips on the BH, and on the FH I replaced the tensor rubber with a hybrid as soon as they appeared on the market. I also gradually switched to faster blades. I used to prefer hinoki, now koto.
      After that I decided to go back to regular inverted rubbers on both sides, and I played on both sides with hybrid rubbers, and now I've been playing with Chinese rubber on the FH and tensor on the BH for some time.

    • @kwanyang
      @kwanyang 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so it becomes full circle that you have come back to Chinese fh and tensor bh 😂

  • @ЕвгенийФоменко-т2к
    @ЕвгенийФоменко-т2к 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for your review! If you decide to review Chinese rubbers, then please review Double fish polestar-P. I've been playing with these rubbers for years now, but there are practically no reviews on them. Interested in your opinion

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for your suggestion. I just ordered a DF Polestar Pro and it's coming to my address soon, but the review will be in a couple of months, because I have a lot of things planned before that.

    • @ЕвгенийФоменко-т2к
      @ЕвгенийФоменко-т2к 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@DarioGrdThank you! It will be very interesting

  • @clarencepsaila4743
    @clarencepsaila4743 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At the end you mentioned h3 is impossible without boosting andi agree. I bought an H3 National blue sponge 39 degrees and I'm going to boost with falco long... How many layers are recommended for 39 degrees blue sponge? I'm asking because previously I only owned nittaku h3 provincial (orange sponge) also in 39 degrees and when I boosted it with 3 layers of falco it felt too mushy

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It depends on how it suits the individual player and how many times it has been boosted before. H3 National BS 40 degrees I boost with 2 extra thin layers or one slightly thicker layer, but I use Haifu Sea Moon National White.

  • @lolSnowball
    @lolSnowball 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please make an update if you boost it)
    Nice review!

  • @mmonteiro70
    @mmonteiro70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello, please, in your opinion, what would be the ideal rubber to drive? Battle 3, is it worth it? thanks!

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you base the game on drives, I would avoid Chinese rubbers if I were you.

    • @mmonteiro70
      @mmonteiro70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DarioGrdOk, please, with your experience, could you recommend a good rubber for the drive? thank you very much !

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mmonteiro70 If you base your game only on flat hitting, then maybe you should think about short pips, because that type of rubber is the best for that, but if you want to stay on the inverted rubber, here are some: Rakza 9, Tenergy 64, Dignics 80...

    • @mmonteiro70
      @mmonteiro70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DarioGrdThank you, friend ! 👍👏🏓

  • @marinkomakamarinicmarinic1839
    @marinkomakamarinicmarinic1839 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo

  • @nk12751
    @nk12751 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poz Dario.
    Zanima me, na osnovu tvog iskustva sa kojom gumom je lakše igrati forhend:
    Tibhar K3 ili Friendship Battle III ili DHS Huricane 3 Neo ( sa ili bez bustera?)

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      poz. tim redom kako si napisao. K3, Battle 3, Hurricane 3... naravno, kod B3 i H3 ovisi puno i o tvrdoći spužve, ali generalno kao što sam napisao. K3, Battle 3 i najteže je s H3... govorim bez boostera, kad se doda booster onda se može puno toga olakšati

  • @reziabdurrahmans.e.sym.ak1584
    @reziabdurrahmans.e.sym.ak1584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    please review Hurricane 8-80

  • @nielsbos3719
    @nielsbos3719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect

  • @tungabcd
    @tungabcd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the review! Which do you think B3 39 degree or 40 degree is suitable for Zhou qihao super alc 90?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I were to choose for myself and for ZQH 90, I would choose hardness 40 and with one layer of booster.

    • @tungabcd
      @tungabcd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd thanks alot! Keep up the good work!

  • @nealtran1856
    @nealtran1856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    question: how does it go when playing away from the table? and counter attack?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there is a section in the video "away from the table" -> th-cam.com/video/RFoPyRWq_Cg/w-d-xo.html
      as well as my rating for that segment in the rating table

  • @Lawsy2
    @Lawsy2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've used both the 39 and 40 hardness versions as my main setup this year (OFF+ blade) and can say this is fairly accurate.
    However, you must break B3 in. You gain a bit of speed and control, like a very mild boost, after 15-20 hours of use. Since durability is excellent, you lose nothing for doing this.
    Like many rubbers, the medium hardness version (39) sacrifices a little top-end speed, but tend to feel faster everywhere else. B3 is no different.
    I believe you would really like the 40.
    I've found the 40 to serve almost the same as the 39. As expected, the 40 requires a little more effort to get going, so its even more precise in the short game. However, once ball speeds increase to comfortably play at mid-distance and beyond, the 40 has much better top end speed/extension.
    Give it a try, I think you'll really enjoy it.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing the information.
      This was not a racket intended for me, but I ordered blade and rubbers for a club colleague and glued them on, so I took the opportunity to try it out and make a review. If I were to take it for myself, I would definitely go for the 40-degree sponge and glued it to a much faster blade.

    • @Lawsy2
      @Lawsy2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd That makes sense then.
      B3 seems to pair well with OFF- and above blades, maybe borderline ALL+/OFF-, and less so with anything slower.
      Might be worth a try.
      Cheers again for the clear review.

  • @kwanyang
    @kwanyang 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what blade do you use to test the rubbers?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sword Subdue blade was used in this test. I use a variety of blades for rubber reviews, but all that I've played with with different rubbers and know their characteristics well.

  • @그냥즐겨-u5m
    @그냥즐겨-u5m หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm choose about buying this after watching this video.
    I will use fh battle3 . Can you recommend backhand rubber one in a similar price range? ^^;; yes i know. this is stupid and strange question. but its ok. i want just trust you.
    And I just have to practice to get it right.
    Please recommend a backhand buddy that fits well with Battle 3 ^^ please dario thank you very much

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Any rubber that suits you can be paired with the B3. I can't say that there is a rubber that works well with the B3, but it's the one that suits your play style. Sorry, but I can't recommend anything if I don't even know roughly your playstyle and level you're at.
      If you watch my other rubber review videos, you might find something that will suit you, because in each video I review rubbers by game segment, and then everyone can determine which segment is most important to them and thus choose a rubber for themselves.

    • @그냥즐겨-u5m
      @그냥즐겨-u5m หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd omg. stupid question but genius answer haha thx ^^ dario. i hope your happy and healthy ^^ thank u very much ^^

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@그냥즐겨-u5m You know what they say, there is no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer.
      That's for sure 😀

  • @DailyDoseOfTableTennis
    @DailyDoseOfTableTennis หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need help,im looking for something new to level up my game,im a pretty offensive player,use tenergy 05 on fh.
    Do you think this can be a good rubber?
    And also what type of blade do you reccomend with this type of rubber(using a joola zhou qhiao 45 at the moment)

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a different type of rubber than the Tenergy 05, and if you haven't played with rubbers of a similar type before, it will be a big change and you will need a lot of time to adjust.
      This is a rubber with much more control than the T05, but you also have to put a lot more of your own power into the shot to get the power that the T05 provides.
      Personally, I would always prefer B3 over T05, but most of the players I train and play with would do the opposite. So it all depends on the player's preferences.
      Joola ZQH 45 is a good blade and of course it will fit with B3, but I prefer slightly stiffer blades, so for example I would always rather choose ZQH 90 which has koto, than ZQH 45 which has limba as the final veneer.

    • @DailyDoseOfTableTennis
      @DailyDoseOfTableTennis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd thanks man.
      So if i have understand,b3=more spin and control but less Power.
      With an harder Blade i can balance that lack of Speed

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DailyDoseOfTableTennis exactly 🙂

  • @aldervangoncalves7160
    @aldervangoncalves7160 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your hurricane 3 is national, or provinçal?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      national

  • @goransekulic9993
    @goransekulic9993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pozzzz , gdje nabaviti tu gumu ?
    I ima li možda kopija , koja nije orginal ?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pozdrav.
      Moguće ju je nabaviti s raznih shopova, ja sam ovu kupio na spinfactory.de.
      Nisam proučavao ima li kopija, ali čisto sumnjam s obzirom da je cijena 38 EUR i to je zapravo gumama jeftinijeg ranga.

    • @goransekulic9993
      @goransekulic9993 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd ja sam nabavio na Aliexpresu i platio sam 26e i nije uopće ljepljiva , pa sam posumnjao da je kopija . Sinoć sam ju isprobao i oduševila me ...

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goransekulic9993 odlično onda. ljepljivost može i varirat od batcha u kojem je proizvedena, ali bitno da ti odgovara.

  • @runeswinnen8737
    @runeswinnen8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On what website did you buy this rubber?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      spinfactory.de

    • @runeswinnen8737
      @runeswinnen8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrd maybe some advice for me currently i´m using the thibar k1 hybrid european edition but i want to change to this rubber or a dhs rubber i´m an european player btw what would you recomend i have been active in the sport for about 4 years now and i train 4 hour a week plus 4 individual matches

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@runeswinnen8737 After switching from European and Japanese tensor rubbers to hybrid rubbers, the stroke technique should be slightly changed, but when switching to the Chinese type of rubbers, the technique should be changed significantly. So that should definitely be taken into account. It is necessary to work a lot more with the legs, involve the whole body in the shot and simply change the style of play that you have been taught until now.
      You have an advantage if you have played with K1 until now and switching to a Chinese rubber is easier, but not very simple. If you want a change, I would recommend that you start with a slightly softer version, for example 38 or 39 hardness, and then when you master it, if it suits you, take the harder version.

    • @runeswinnen8737
      @runeswinnen8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarioGrdthx for the advice you are amazing , do you think the battle 3 would be a good rubber because it is not that traditional or just go for a dhs rubber with 39.

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@runeswinnen8737 I think the Battle 3 is good for the transition from hybrid to Chinese type rubbers, because it has the characteristics of both types. Also, the price is not too high, so I think it's worth a try, but let's say for myself I would always choose the H3 over the B3, simply because I'm already used to the H3 and because for me it's a better rubber, but of course also several times more expensive than the B3.

  • @bangfadlan487
    @bangfadlan487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, which blades will match nicely with B3? 5ply allwood, 7 ply allwood or carbon blade?

    • @DarioGrd
      @DarioGrd  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would always choose a stiff carbon blade for myself, but of course if you want more control then choose an allwood blade which will work just as well with the B3.