You can raise a new generation of musicians simply off of just educating people how to use they equipment to its fullest potential. Keep up the work man!
Very nicely done! I have some Binson Echorec examples on my channel that include some NOS remade units. Nothing matches a good working Binson in my opinion.
I think the OG Roland Tape Units (the 201 & 301 especially) remain King. 👑 They lend a beautiful colour and character to guitar, vocals, drums - anything & everything. The Echorec has a particular rhythmic vibe, but it’s more of a one-trick effect … you couldn’t use it on everything, like you could the RE units. The EP-3 is TOO clean, to my ears … no strong character or vibe (the delay). People seem to like the preamp; I prefer the way the drums hit through the RE unit, personally - and I assume that is down to the Roland RE preamp (also much revered) … ? 🤷🏻♂️ In general, the plug-ins did a significantly better job of emulating the overall tone/delay vibes of the original units, I thought … and the pedals seemed to do a better job of emulating the ‘effect stunts’ of the respective unit, ie self-oscillation and shifting the spindle on the EP (again, generally speaking). The og RE-201 and RE-301 remain King, for mine. Radiohead and Brian Setzer (and many other artists) ain’t no fools!
Wow what a great video! Superior quality review of these devices and plugins. Thank you Thank you!! I have been looking into getting a vintage tape delay for a while now and you have provided amazing examples of what I can expect. There is nothing like this on the YT💪 please keep the vids coming✌ P.S. this vid is brimming with so much info I'll be watching it quite a few times😉
So many flavors to have in one studio. It’s cool to see how well the pedals and plugins hold up. I can see them all coming in handy for different appliances.
I agree. My takeaway wasn't "oh this sucks and that rocks," but more that each one would be useful in different scenarios. I was however quite enamored by the EP-3's preamp.
Good comparison. Maybe try the Re-202, it has more features and sounds in it than the Re-2 that is closer to the Re-201 and Ive read that the Bell Epoche Deluxe is the better EP3 pedal.
A lot of big name artists have used Binson Echorecs. They were expensive af back in the day (still are). Vangelis used them too in the 70s/80s. I think people liked 'em back then because they were cleaner sounding than tape echo, and were probably a bit of a status symbol too.
For sure. I revisited all of my analog delays this week actually and the ep-3 won again. My echorec is super special to me but it is not versatile, and to me, it is a one trick pony (sound wise). It has its vibe and you cannot subtract from or add to it. I’ve owned 5 in my life and they all pretty much sounded the same once serviced. Very unique. A space echo sounds warm and silky like the Evans and the echoplex is punchy and quite clean but the Echorec is kinda tunneled and extremely colored. Vibey for sure but not clean like the others. This is partly due to the tube path and partly the oiled drum. Reamping into it and coming back DI cleans it up a bit imo. Either way, it’s a unique flavor that proved the hardest for the pedal format to clone in this shootout. Thanks for the input!
Hi that’s i’ve been doing moving forward with all my new videos, it’s kind of a new channel and I didn’t do that with this video, I apologize. You’ll see on my newer videos you can grab all the WAV files from my blog on my website. Thanks for your comment though and I hope you subscribe and come back to check out future videos! Thank you.
Yes, you are correct. The rule of thumb is to use a passive DI on active instruments and active DI on passive stuff. I believe that’s what I did here. Since the all these delay devices are powered, it should be a passive DI. Though there’s always an exception and the ear should have the final say 👍
A fair point indeed. I should have used the ep boost or ep101 before it. In hindsight, if I reshot the video I would have. When this was shot I thought that pedal had the preamp in it. I didn’t know that was a separate pedal altogether. Thanks for the great comment though!!
Yeah, no worries! It was a great comparison vid either way. You are super lucky to have access to such incredible artifacts of time as these!@@JMLRecording
Here’s the Binson EM6 mixer video if you’d like to dive into that with me :)
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I love how you talk about not always pursuing the cleanest sound!
Brilliant!
Thanks Dorian!! ❤
best audio/recording channel going ATM !
Wow, thanks! I needed that. I get tired of deleting hateful angry comments all day. I appreciate that brother.
You can raise a new generation of musicians simply off of just educating people how to use they equipment to its fullest potential. Keep up the work man!
This is so dope!! Really can hear the difference between everything. Super helpful. Guess this means I need a Space Echo & Echorec though 😂
Very nicely done! I have some Binson Echorec examples on my channel that include some NOS remade units. Nothing matches a good working Binson in my opinion.
Great great great!!!
Excellent side by side comparisons and beautifully presented in this well-crafted video. Bravo again!
I think the OG Roland Tape Units (the 201 & 301 especially) remain King. 👑
They lend a beautiful colour and character to guitar, vocals, drums - anything & everything.
The Echorec has a particular rhythmic vibe, but it’s more of a one-trick effect … you couldn’t use it on everything, like you could the RE units.
The EP-3 is TOO clean, to my ears … no strong character or vibe (the delay). People seem to like the preamp; I prefer the way the drums hit through the RE unit, personally - and I assume that is down to the Roland RE preamp (also much revered) … ? 🤷🏻♂️
In general, the plug-ins did a significantly better job of emulating the overall tone/delay vibes of the original units, I thought … and the pedals seemed to do a better job of emulating the ‘effect stunts’ of the respective unit, ie self-oscillation and shifting the spindle on the EP (again, generally speaking).
The og RE-201 and RE-301 remain King, for mine. Radiohead and Brian Setzer (and many other artists) ain’t no fools!
Fantastic insight. All of which I wholeheartedly agree with. I hope you sub and stick around Kieren! Thanks for taking the time.
Awesome video, just beautiful ❤ thanks for sharing with us ✌
Wow what a great video! Superior quality review of these devices and plugins. Thank you Thank you!! I have been looking into getting a vintage tape delay for a while now and you have provided amazing examples of what I can expect. There is nothing like this on the YT💪 please keep the vids coming✌ P.S. this vid is brimming with so much info I'll be watching it quite a few times😉
Awesome, thank you brother! I debated splitting it all into 3 different videos but it's cool to have the timestamps in one vid for reference
So many flavors to have in one studio. It’s cool to see how well the pedals and plugins hold up. I can see them all coming in handy for different appliances.
I agree. My takeaway wasn't "oh this sucks and that rocks," but more that each one would be useful in different scenarios. I was however quite enamored by the EP-3's preamp.
I have learned through your verification that the pedals have a positive effect for the mixdown.
20:22. The internal modulation pot maybe the component that lends this little unit more credence…as well as increasing the internal preamp pot.
Great comparison
This video is super informative and really well put together! Great video, Josh! Excited for more from this channel 🔥🔥🔥
Good comparison. Maybe try the Re-202, it has more features and sounds in it than the Re-2 that is closer to the Re-201 and Ive read that the Bell Epoche Deluxe is the better EP3 pedal.
Im selling 2 es of my old Re 201 tape echos if your interested .
A lot of big name artists have used Binson Echorecs. They were expensive af back in the day (still are). Vangelis used them too in the 70s/80s. I think people liked 'em back then because they were cleaner sounding than tape echo, and were probably a bit of a status symbol too.
For sure. I revisited all of my analog delays this week actually and the ep-3 won again. My echorec is super special to me but it is not versatile, and to me, it is a one trick pony (sound wise). It has its vibe and you cannot subtract from or add to it. I’ve owned 5 in my life and they all pretty much sounded the same once serviced. Very unique. A space echo sounds warm and silky like the Evans and the echoplex is punchy and quite clean but the Echorec is kinda tunneled and extremely colored. Vibey for sure but not clean like the others. This is partly due to the tube path and partly the oiled drum. Reamping into it and coming back DI cleans it up a bit imo. Either way, it’s a unique flavor that proved the hardest for the pedal format to clone in this shootout.
Thanks for the input!
Great stuff
Great and extensive work. Echoplex are great. Is there the files somewhere to make a funkyabx blind test?
Hi that’s i’ve been doing moving forward with all my new videos, it’s kind of a new channel and I didn’t do that with this video, I apologize. You’ll see on my newer videos you can grab all the WAV files from my blog on my website. Thanks for your comment though and I hope you subscribe and come back to check out future videos! Thank you.
That fuzzy distortion that pops up a lot is due to using an active DI... should really be passive for these vintage delays.
Yes, you are correct. The rule of thumb is to use a passive DI on active instruments and active DI on passive stuff. I believe that’s what I did here. Since the all these delay devices are powered, it should be a passive DI. Though there’s always an exception and the ear should have the final say 👍
Amazing video dude! So informative, detailed and entertaining! Can’t wait to see more!
Long live Metroid!!! Hahahaha
I have 2 ea Re 201 space echos i need to sell .
The maestro echoplex sounds great
Right??? Also my favorite. Great ear (great taste rather, as they all sound wonderful).
I'm not sure it was exactly fair to test the Echoplex delay pedal without its preamp partner...
A fair point indeed. I should have used the ep boost or ep101 before it. In hindsight, if I reshot the video I would have. When this was shot I thought that pedal had the preamp in it. I didn’t know that was a separate pedal altogether. Thanks for the great comment though!!
Yeah, no worries! It was a great comparison vid either way. You are super lucky to have access to such incredible artifacts of time as these!@@JMLRecording