I am 80 years of age and came to HK 60 years ago. I have seen riots in 1967 and riots in 2019. I have seen several property busts and booms. I have seen businesses move in and out. I have seen mass migrationinto HK from both China, '60' & '70's and Vietnam, late '70's & early '80's, and I have seen mass migration out on HK in the '60s, '90's and now 2020's. I have seen and experienced a lot in HK. It seems only people under 30 years of age were interviewed for this video, be they locals or expats, which means they have not experienced colonial HK nor just pre/post '97 HK. So views expressed are all formed from a relatively short term experience of HK. This does mean to say they are wrong, but that Time provides a filter which ensures short term impressions can be re-visited, re-assessed and if necessary explained in a somewhat different light. So please interview older generations and get a broader viewpoint.
bear in your mind that Hongkong is a land which was looted by British hundred years ago and the fact that is land for China forever. One country two systems does not mean this land is not owning and governing by China after 1997. Therefore, why Hongkong be lived different to any city in China. all people are equal in China and Hongkonger should have no exemption. see
I'm a Chinese who went to study in the US. Met a Hong Kong girl and we fell in love. She told me so many wonderful things about HongKong, and we mainland Chinese looked up rro HK to in the 2000s. We were madly in love for several years, but eventually her dad made her go back to Hong Kong, I stayed in the US for graduate school and eventually immigrated. She got married, then I got married, but we kept in touch couple times a year. But I haven't heard from her since 2019. I tell myself that her husband has UK citizenship so they probably are ok, but I dont't really know. I traveled through HK airport with my family to vacation in Singapore before COVID. Didn't realize it at that time that was the last chance to see her and the Hong Kong she told me so much about.
When in Rome do as the romans do, get a wite griII. Sure it may be harder at first, but at least if u succeed she will be more loyal. Asian griIIs might be easier initiially but they'll always know they'll never join the mainstream culture, unless they're with a man from the mainstream culture and conformity is very important in Asian culture.
You didn’t see all the main things of studies…I’m an Hong Konger and I’m in primary,every time you need to face the China flag,and the Disneyland is full of Chinese.
I would not say it’s a city, but in the truth it’s a city. HK is running with a country system, it also has different sides like fishing villages, country side villages, island’s villages, factory buildings and so many mountains, islands and beaches. It’s a lot complicated than a city structure. I think UK designed HK to be an independent country, but finally it doesn’t work because of China wants to take HK very very much.
@@TheETchild: FYI... some of the so called "villages"... are the descendents and the remaining Imperial individuals of the last Chinese dynasties... and this generation of people, migrants, mixed race globalists are eradicating the very remaining individuals who OUGHT to have hold power.. but does NOT !!!! And so many people call these individuals as "uneducated". (In fact, this is far from the truth... cos they don't speak out does not mean that they are uneducated.) And to be able to read and write were once upon a time, resided with the Imperial civil servants and inside their doors only. For me to see the kind of going ons now today.. as if those people are dead... It's like...
I was in HK two months ago and I saw many empty shopping units, empty streets during the evening hours after 9. What shock me the most is a closed 7Eleven unit 😮
I started traveling to Asia in 2007 and would always use Hong Kong as my base, flying there directly from New York. Just about every year from 2007 to 2019 I continued to stop over for a few days. At first I couldn't believe that I was in a Communist country. I really couldn't see any restrictions. But over the years it changed. During my last visit in 2019 I felt as if Hong Kong had fallen asleep. There was virtually no one on the streets after 9pm. It was one of my 5 favorite cities around the world, but that Hong Kong is gone now. Just a guess here, but I think it is viewed as a colonialist outpost by the Communists, and they will happily let it wither on the vine. I won't go back. I fly through Singapore now.
2019 was one of Hong Kong’s most unstable years. Business leaves because of instability. Your choice of Singapore, a very cool place but one of the least politically liberal modern societies in the world, confirms that business values stability above political ideology, and certainly above some vague definition of “Communism.”
I used to live in HK in the 2000s. My friends who are still there have been telling me that the city has changed a lot, and not for the better. I plan to visit and see for myself. ☺
They haven't seen anything yet. Marxism/communism and the rule of law/the freedom of speech - as well as any other freedoms - are fundamentally incompatible and mutually exclusive.
@@ruslankolotogin That's great to hear. The West Kowloon Cultural District was still only an idea when I left. I saw images and videos of fantastic-looking new museums and art galleries. I am looking forward to experiencing them. ☺
I finally went back to HK after the pandemic restrictions were lifted. I missed the place so much and I don't really care for what happened in 2019--IMO people went looking for trouble and found it. HK is no trouble as long as you don't use the place to throw secessionist tantrums. I don't know why people are still so hung up over the Chinese flag flying over Hong Kong. That ship sailed in 1997, literally! It's great to see HK coming back after the pandemic restrictions. We can all agree that HK's restrictions were awful and unnecessary.
I’ve spent the last 12 years in Asia but came to HK for the first time just now. I had heard it was a 24 hour city but honestly it seemed to be mostly closed after 9-10pm. People seem stressed and work very late. I guess I must have missed the glory days which is a shame
COVID restrictions forced businesses to close at 10pm, which was silly because obviously COVID only infects people after 10pm. They're trying to bring the nightlife back but the efforts are honestly depressing.
Tbh the glory days are looking with rose coloured glasses. Back in the colonial era it was a 6 day work week and the city was a lot dirtier than it is now. People only remember the booming economy which was built upon the unlimited supply of cheap labour. Once the Chinese wages rose, and have good opportunities at home, they no longer need to work for Hong Kong businesses specifically. Thus HK’s role became diluted.
The old glory days only worked for u if u were a white expat since you drown in cash and pussy but its not like that anymore which is why they left ( and complain about HK now)😂😂
Hong Kong has changed a lot. I have lived in HK since 2005 and unfortunately, due to all the circumstances that u have mentioned, my family and I have also moved out to Singapore and Korea. It really is sad how HK has changed for the worst...
The problem with "100% commerce" is that for foreign investors that doesn't actually guarantee their investment. It's almost like you need a bit of politics to have a well functioning market. I think HK has lost all the trust it once had, and trust is important for financial markets and once it's gone it's gone.
What do you expect. Before 1997 HK was ruled by UK. Now its returns back to China. Westerners come to China to make quick buck. Trust got nothing to do with it because there are many times more foreign investments in China than HK.
Tell me which country doesn't have a national security law? And was business environment better with the rioters roaming around destroying properties? The HK business environment is bad is because of the global economy downturn thanks to US increasing interest rates.
@@momo_san1980 "Tell me which country doesn't have a national security law? " And all countries have prisons so I guess that makes all countries equal to North Korea? " And was business environment better with the rioters roaming around destroying properties? " They were better off before China decided to violate the agreement. Now hundreds of thousands have fled or in the process of leaving -- mostly educated young workers. How does that make HK better? I get it, you like the CCP but come on...why does momtaro like 0ppresi0n?
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It's silence mostly because Hong Kongers are, ironically, largely apolitical. The politically inclined are a very vocal minority so they seem to carry an outsized influence on media. The vast majority of my family and friends who live in or frequent Hong Kong really don't care about how fast or slow electoral reform goes, as long as they have good jobs and their kids have good prospects. On the contrary, my friends in the US who don't actually really visit the place, suddenly have a concern that we "lost all our freedom." We've beat the horse to death in 2019. We'll never all agree on everything that happened during the civil unrest, and a few outliers in my family have felt awkward enough to stop showing up to gatherings. None of them are in trouble, they just carry stronger feelings and can't validate them. Eventually we'll learn to be more like Americans--to separate family from politics. The media really magnifies some things to be larger than life. The only thing they were really right on IMO, is that our pandemic restrictions really, really sucked more than other countries. But that's finally gone too.
Cus now the censorship… wait no, police state… no, “national security “ is working so well in Hong Kong, it’s steadily declining and nothing worth reporting anymore. Also HKers are never “apolitical” - there was once 2mil people took to the streets back during the mass protests in 2019
Well, a lot of inocent people wanted to stand to tell china it is un fair be China arrested them. I almost got arrested, and I'm sorry, covid start in China because China whated to stop Hong Kong from fighting with the stupid police and leaving China. Just because I'm poor so I must stay in this horrible china. Even my crush left😔
@@CKJamesTang You can always go to UK. They making it easy for HKers to migrate with BNO and providing short term financial support for BNO migrants. And UK is now facing workers shortage . If you're not choosy you can get a job easily. You don;t have to suffer any more in "horrible" CHina.
A lot of solid information in this video Uptin. I’ve been to HK 9 times over the last 20 years and it’s one of my favorite cities in Asia. But I’m concerned post protests and post pandemic how things have changed. I guess we’ll see when I make my way there again.
Hong hong is much better then before . The dumb protesters are leaving hong kong but half of then are coming back 😅😅. I come to hong kong for one year to work . I'm still in hong kong now . is been 4 years .
@Forward GoThe economic and political freedom is what makes Hong Kong a gateway. China's taking over means the lose of these and the foundation of being a gateway.
Don’t need your concern. We are good here . You’re only shown sanitized footages of the protest . If you’re for those territories funded by the CIA and MI5, you’re not welcome here !
@@jerrywu8514 nah just the economy basis being a fiscal paradise and international financial capital. Also anglo propaganda that pursues having influence using capital so china use it as an advantadge rather than a problem. Of course in the end if they have too much influence as pretended china is wise to not let them have it. Thats the game Anglos want to have influence there cause money throw its money and propaganda and thats all. Definetly not a freedom and democracy case, if they care why the actual fck they negotiate with china to return a colony in the first place?😂 cause dictatorship vs democracy? Cmon is the more laughable narrative that they always throw, so cheap
Great video. It touched all the aspects of the story, the controversies, changes, difficulties and then you present a very nice resolution of the whole situation.
@@albback8176: Murders, rapes, robberies.. were often and common in HK... and yet you only focused on that single Taiwanese situation ? You have no idea about the deaths and murder cases in HK during the 1980s the 1990s... and more ? You have no idea that, those who now live in those high rises, were the same coordinators and the same criminals that did the deeds, and that others.. across the globe helped them reach their dreams ? You mean to tell me that you did not know this ? So if criminals can sit in the legislative councils... the management tiers inside HK.. and more.. Do you think that it actually has a rule of law ? We call this corruption. In the pursuit of... wealth.. and capitalism... lots of people did their own thing... and they are going to be the same people that will see a next generation. Against the people whom they managed to push down. i.e. The rest of the remaining chinese. (Cos HK had some of the chinese that fled the Qing dynasties and the barbarians etc.... With the help of foreigners.. they managed to get partners, money, wealth, have kids.. and more.) And now.. you are saying that what.... They literally managed to achieve what they wanted. All along. Despite the stupid odd articles online now about these people... Which is pointless in a way. Some of the media empire coming out of HK is exactly about all of this.... For a 8 million existence... what did you think will happen ????....
lmao it’s really not that bad than how the internet thinks you’d be suprised at how many people who don’t care or are straight up not involved in politics.
@@bsjddjk wtf? nobody is restricted in China, you knw that right? It is to go against the gov is when you be silenced. aka "cut off" from the world. you think Jack Ma doesnt know any news from US or something? 🤣
@@jiji7250 Protesters make it sound like people only visit Hong Kong because of "politics." The reopening is proving them hilariously wrong--visitors and businesses value stability, not some vague sense of "democracy."
11:32 The West Kowloon High Speed Rail Station where you are and said at that timestamp gets you to Shenzhen Futian station in 14 minutes (not 45 minutes like you said in the video).
During the protest, pre-pandemic, I was in touch with some of my HK friends, who, without exception were in support of the protest. I actually told them that the protest was meaningless and that they would be lucky if China did not send in tanks like they did during Tianamen. They were actually not that well briefed about how the Basic Law and how the Handover came about. I followed the negotiations for the Handover and Basic Law in the early 1980s in the UK when Thatcher was negotiating it with Deng. Simply put, the Chinese thought that they were getting back HK in the same format existing during the negotiations, which was direct rule by way of an appointed leader. At that time, HK was ruled by a Governor General appointed by the UK. However, after the treaty was done and signed off, the UK government suddenly decided to set up a HK democratic legislative assembly to elect HK's leader, in essence handing over a poison pill to China. Of course China was furious about it but could not do anything as the treaty allowed UK to do that. Many commentators in UK at that time lambasted Thatcher's government for the pure hypocrisy of the move. As they rightly pointed out, HK had never ever had any democratic rights and any attempts to do so had being firmly quashed by the British as seditious during their rule! The British used the same sedition law that they had introduced into Malaysia and Singapore, and which long after their independence from the UK, continued to be use by both the Malaysian and Singaporean governments against their political opponents. Suddenly, after signing off the treaty with China and years of suppressing any democracy movement in HK, the British government decided to introduce democratic elections for HK's leadership, which was not what China had expected! In essence, the British had shafted China, again! HK was given to Britain as a result of the two Opium Wars where the British had fought China to continue as state sponsors in pushing opium into China. Read that shameful history of Britain's Opium Wars where it became the only country in history which became an international state-sponsored Opium pusher. I told my HK friends that did they expect UK or US to invade or challenge China militarily? Like they did in Vietnam, Afghanistan or Iraq? Those were minor countries with very weak military and financial clout. Which was not the case with China. www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/30/the-hong-kong-unofficials-who-advised-britain-on-the-handover-and-were-ignored "When the decision to relinquish Hong Kong in 1997 was finally announced on 20 April 1984, ironically it brought a sense of liberation to the advisers. Emboldened, a nine-member delegation - led by Chung - went to London to try to exert pressure on the government. But London was prepared. The press were briefed against them before their arrival and described their statement as “militant”. Their crucial questions to their colonial masters were: what would happen if China breached the Sino-British joint declaration? Would residents of Hong Kong be able to cast their vote on the joint declaration? If so, how? It was a controversial visit at home, too. Pro-Beijing newspapers accused the delegation of “spreading gloom in Hong Kong”, despite Hong Kong’s stock exchange index having already fallen by 200 points since the 20 April announcement. “We are here to try to reflect the Hong Kong people’s aspirations,” said Selina Chow, a member of the delegation, as reported by the Guardian on 13 May 1984. “We are asking the British government: ‘How are you going to fulfil your obligations to me? How are you going to protect me against these doubts?’” But before they received any answer from London, they were dismissed - including by their former boss, MacLehose, who by now had been given a life peerage. To Chung, it was unforgivable. “I shall never forget the words of the MPs who criticised us, saying that the unofficial members of the two councils were not elected so how could they represent Hong Kong? … I said to them: ‘How can you claim that you can negotiate for us? You have no mandate from us either; I never elected you,’” he later recalled to Tsang." As I kept reminding my HK friends during the protests, the Handover was negotiated by an Imperialist Conqueror and Colonist, which was never elected by HK! And who negotiated not what was in the best interest of HK but in the best interest of the UK. However, conveniently, both the HK younger generation and British commentators conveniently glossed over that!
All said and done, there are a lot of people in HK who have back pocket options who are upbeat about Hong Kong. But if shit hits the fan, they may pack up and leave quickly. Those who are filled with despair about the future are people who don't have such options, cannot afford to move and perhaps don't have the language skills to do it either.
@@harisadu8998 many have already left. If the UK cares about these HK separatists so bad, they would allow them to migrate to the UK for free. And they have not yet, so what does that say about the UK? Truthfully as a Hong Kong native, I'd be glad if all protestors and separatists and race traitors would leave Hk and migrate to Europe where they can "drown" themselves with freedom all they want. I do not want anymore western influence infiltrating the Chinese sphere because they will eventually steal our resources and take over our country. I would never allow myself to be ruled by Europeans and whites.
@@harisadu8998 haha, good. Served them right, that's what they get for their anglophile, arrogant behaviors even to their fellow citizens from mainland china simply because they're richer than them. Now as the saying goes, karma is a bitch. 😊
I think you are mostly right . But I don’t agree that the people who stay in Hong Kong are the one who can’t leave . I have no doubt that some left . But a lot of them do have foreign passports . I have many HKeses friends that I met in schools in the UK and they choose to stay in Hong Kong . They also happen to have British passports ( not BNO) . Thé well off one already have foreign passports . Don’t get me wrong , I am not happy with how the HK government treat the citizen who are fighting freedom ands democracy .
As a Hong Konger that have been living here my entire life, I could definitely see how Hong Kong had change over the years (specially bc of the COVID 19) and I agree with that China have been trying to 'take back Hong Kong'. And I can tell you since I'm also a student at Hong Kong that the language has change A LOT, back when I'm in high school (not a long time ago), the teachers still speak Cantonese but between the students, shockingly, almost ALL of them in MY school/classes speak mandarin to each other and there's even some people that don't even speak Cantonese or understand it which is just CRAZY to me. And the reason are simple... it's because the students that speak Mandarin IS from CHINA, I'm dumbfound when I find out that I'm the only few in my classes that is a native Hong Konger and almost 85% of my classmates are Chinese and from china, LIKE WHAT???!!! I kinda get that the china schools suck and the parents want their kids to be in a better school but 85% of my class?! That is crazy to me.And not just in schools, in the streets you can hear people speak mandarin instead of Cantonese. All I can say is that Hong Kong is changing, very quickly and I personally don't like that, I mean it's fine to speak mandarin but I feel like even the native Hong Kong kids is force to learn how to speak in mandarin (including me) just because no one speak Cantonese in schools anymore and that is just sad. And I want to change that but how can I? I'm just one person, I try to talk Cantonese with some of my friends but they usually just say something like "Why are you speaking Cantonese?", I mean we're in Hong Kong? What am I supposed to say? The fact that I have to watch all this happened right in front of my eyes is just depressing, although I have live here my whole life and I absolutely love it here. I must say that I understand why so many people is leaving Hong Kong and now my goal is to study as much as I can, save money and get out. I have a few places in mind, like the UK, Canada or Germany. I just feel like I want to 'escape', I just feel like there'll be more freedom in those places then here and I can finally express my feelings and be myself. But that's in the future, I still need to study and work my way through. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate how Chinese people is coming to Hong Kong to study and all that but I feel like it's just changing Hong Kong for me. But that's just my opinion.
Judging from your description, you felt suffocating by friends ( mostly from school ) not accepting your speaking Cantonese. Make some new friends that speaks Cantonese , because recently all of the Cantonese speaking people are promoting the language in Television in China. Not too long ago Cantonese is accepted as a language not a dialect by the United Nations. I am neither pro or against Mandarin speaking or pro or again China trying to make Hong Kong people realize that we are REAL Chinese. I grew up in Kowloon side , went to Chinese school from kindergarten , learned about Chinese history, goes to Cantonese Opera etc. Then I went to English high school. All teachers and classmates spoke English and we were encouraged to practice speaking English among ourself. So I never learned mandarin. Maybe that is the same that your friends assumed that at school you speak mandarin well and you can continue speaking their language. They will not learn Cantonese , unless the person they deal with is a foreigner who does not speak mandarin, but happens to speak Cantonese. 😅😂. I am a Canadian. Spoke English when shopping in Peking or Shanghai.😮😊 Once I am outside of school I read Chinese newspaper and watch both mandarin movie and Cantonese movie. Luckily at least I understand mandarin. Later in life, I realized that the foreigners who took Asian Studies learned mandarin and wrote traditional Chinese. Dear young friend, if you want to escape your situation, all you need is move from Kowloon side to HK side after you finish high school. Because the same situation happens outside of Hong Kong too. I am living in Toronto Canada and I used to be able to speak Cantonese freely when shopping in Chinatown. Now I have to speak English because I cannot ask in Mandarin or now we say Po-Tung-Hua . I visited Hong Kong every year, and can feel the changes. My friends and relatives all live in Hong Kong side now. I got lost in Kowloon side.
I was born the mainland China, immigrated to Canada with my family when I was 16 ish. Visited HK twice, once when I was just a little kid, didn't remember much, other than it was raining quite a lot. The second time was in 2014, my first impression was the locals aren't very particularly friendly towards me, I understand Cantonese very well just can't speak much, so I was talking in Mandarin(or English if really necessary) for most of the time and didn't receive the best treatment from locals😂 I like HK, I genuinely do. Watched TVB shows growing up...Beautiful culture mix, different vibe than most other places, delicious food...but seems like HK as a city is just swirling down, which is a shame. I've met a lot of people who came from Hongkong over the years, and I always liked to ask them as in what do they think of Hongkong, the answers went from "missing HK sometimes" to "Hell I'll never be going back", those words along has demonstrated a lot of their thoughts, sadly.
I think HK should be independent, the culture and the Cantonese language should be very well preserved, (it's a beautiful language!) those are the things that made Hongkong to be so unique like no other, unfortunately I believe a lot of people, especially those with power in their hands, thinks opposite😢.
@@brucexue Why can’t we just be a country? I am a Hong konger. And to be honest, we already have our own government, law, LANGUAGE, culture, and we’re MORE westernised than China (for sure), our own currency (HKD) too! we can basically be a country!
You need to interview hongkongers who moved to UK, NZ and all those places. You might be surprised, many of them are having worse life than they were in Hong Kong!
Let them enjoy their freedom without the money. The salaries and opportunities were given to them by their government. The reality is much harsher aboard due to westerners weak left mindset. They feel bad for some people, so they let in all sort of poor people in. The west is deteriorating very fast and kept raising taxes. From HK such as no taxes to western country with high taxes. Can’t enjoy if all money is going to taxes.
@Forward Go no matter how bad you paint China negatively, they will remain gold even if you tell the whole world that they are not. The world will eventually see through your lies and ignore you. Macron has learned that the hard way, that's for sure, so does the African countries and middle eastern countries and south american countries, wait... so who are the U.S. trying to portray negative image about China to? Well.. it's the west.
Hong Kong with six 6 millions population is like here in Singapore, another tiny island with seven 7 million souls lives like sardines in a can, where else in nearby vast bountiful Australia in Asia-Pacific region which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants... A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room. 😔
LMFAO. Japan is not congested. People CHOOSE to live in Tokyo, where it is congested. They sleep on tatamis and put away their beds in the morning, that's Japanese culture. Jesus, read a few books before commenting.
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12:06 if people say something negative, one can be arrested now… sadly this is one freedom that is no longer in HK anymore. I still hope the best for people of Hong Kong and China.
The narrative "HK sends criminal to China" is flawed. What happend was that there was a HK couple who traveled to Taiwan. The man murdered the woman and fled back to HK. There was no extradiction treaty between HK and Taiwan. The new criminal extradiction treaty was also updated to be inclusive of China. So it is not about "send criminal to China".
I'm 18 and I used to be in until when I was 5 lately I've been thinking to revisit the place but it seems like people over there facing many issues hope HK gets back to it's full potential.
I’m of a different opinion, there’s still opportunity in Hong Kong. I don’t see the government fully integrating the RMB or fully removing the SAR status even post 2047. It wouldn’t make sense to given that Shenzhen is just across the border, the competitive advantage that Hong Kong had would dissipate. As a foreigner with a Hong Kong wife, it’s still very foreigner friendly and open for business. I applied for a visa through wife, was granted and only cost $44AUD. Very easy.
@@se7enzee444 Most people WITH MONEY , I MEAN lot and lot of Money, DO care about their MONEY. And what CCP did to HK doesn't make them feel safe of leaving their money in HK. These money are leaving amass and that goes HK financial sector. The biggest problem with CCP isn't their law, it is that their law is so vain and have so many loop-hole that they can arrest anyone based on the law if the leader feel like it. Worst People whom are arrested just disappear, they don't get to contact their family, lawyer, hell the police don't even tell their family about it.
@@cck4863 The very wealthy people don't like a strong government because they can't run it. The elites in HK can no longer control the HK government. Do you personally know anyone arrested by the Chinese government? Or you just listen to the news from a western media outlet?
HK is dead in the water .. no matter how this one short hair guy sugarcoated it .. vacant stores will continue to increase .. commercial stores value have come down 30 0r 40% already .. residential prices have gone down 15% last year … nobody has the crystal ball to predict how fast and how much it will go down … but the downward spiral is definite .. Employment seems to be decent for now .. some positions are opening up as people left to other countries .. but the economy will go downhill quickly .. Unlike security law in other countries … this new law stuffed upon HKers is definitely the last straw .. an instrument to control you .. freedom no more .. international city no more
How is HK comparing to UK, US and Taiwan? I live in the US and I se many empty stores and many homeless people. When I watch the news, there are massive protests UK and France.
I'm sorry, but isn't values coming down exactly what the Hong Kong working class population wanted? Decades and decades of skyrocketing values and declining social mobility, and now a decrease is a bad thing?
To be honest, what city in the world is robust and thriving? If only 100k people left HK, it's a drop in the bucket. Residential real estate is $2500 usd/sq feet. It needs to come down more to be affordable for the average citizen.
I am a Hong Konger and have been in the UK for 2.5 years - not too long and not too short. To be fair, there are many things I needed to adapt to here in the UK: the culture, lifestyle, people, and work, among others. Speaking about job stability, taxes, and wages, I believe Hong Kong is better than many other European countries. However, what I've learned, gained, and experienced here in the UK are resilience, independence, an open-minded mindset, respect, and, ultimately, the most important thing - freedom, including the freedom of speech. What truly matters to me now isn't just about money, but rather the freedom, or perhaps even something as simple as that (I know it might sound a bit cheesy). Nonetheless, it's a privilege for me to express my opinions here, and sometimes I feel a sense of sadness observing how Hong Kong, my home, has gradually become a place that I'm not familiar with. It's disheartening to witness every integral part of Hong Kong slowly being eroded. Anyway, Hong Kong will always remain the best place and home in my heart. 香港人加油 💛 P.S. THANK YOU UPTIN FOR THE VIDEO :)💯
Funny you should mention freedom of speech. Your side and rioters used violence and arson against people who had different views than you. You guys took away my freedom of speech.
Did HK protestors give people with opposing views freedom of speech? You guys used violence and arson against people who just wanted you guys to tone it down. Good riddance you left. Stay the F out.
The procedures in the new train station in Weast Kowloon are much slower than in the old Hung Hom Station. Until now, you are much faster in Guangzhou Center with the intercity train than the high-speed train to Guangzhou South Station. Just my personal experience.
The key benefit of West Kowloon is the HSR connection to the Chinese national network. At Hung Hom, your only choice is Guangzhou East, and once you get there, you're not really on the HSR network either (the HSR connections are at Guangzhou South). But sure, if your final destination is somewhere in Guangzhou, you would probably do better taking a slower train from Hung Hom--if they decide to keep that service.
Hkers have the freedom to support the emperor. If you dare to say something against him, you will be thrown to jail simple. That's why so many left. So sad CCP crushed hkers like this and flooded hk with mainlanders. All core values we held dear are gone.
Surprising that HK hasn't reformed greater than it has under China and its thrived unscathed for the most part. Protests aside, financial and market confidence could be far worse, affecting locals.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson lmao, Chinese government is the one who granted ordinary Hong Kong people the right to vote. During the colonial rule, Hong Kong people were second or third tier citizens.
@@avocadotoast4934 Yes they were -- and yet HK had freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and in general far more freedoms than they do in 2023. And "The current chief executive is John Lee selected as Chief Executive in the 2022 election, appointed by the Chinese State Council with the designation decree signed by Premier Li Keqiang on 30 May 2022 and took office on 1 July 2022." So what is your point? That it's good for HK to have fewer freedoms?
Hong Kong was simply amazing but its really sad for whats ahead if the mainland takes over and changes everything that makes it fabulous. The mainland China is seriously sad and things economically are not getting better so the future is not looking great. Such a sad situation for the locals if the mainland has its way.
Mainland China is slowly rebounding after ending Covid restrictions. I don’t see what China has to gain by “making things worse in Hong Kong.” It doesn’t make Beijing richer, nor does it make the Chinese army stronger.
Wow so many things not touched upon. 1) During the nearly 150yrs of British rule. Governor of Hong Kong was always crown appointed. The ppl of Hong Kong never had a say or vote. It wasn't until 1989 (8yrs before hand over) that Hong Kong had its first Chinese police commissioner. For the first 100 yrs, no ethnic Chinese was even allowed on Victory Peak (the posh neighborhood of Hong Kong). So the ppl of Hong Kong did not get the right to vote until China took over. 2) You failed to explain that the reason for all the protest in 2021 was a gruesome murder. A Hong Kong couple went to Taiwan for vacation. After an argument the boyfriend murdered his girlfriend and dismembered her body. Put the parts into several suit cases and dumped them in dumpster near the hotel. He then casually flew back to Hong Kong. Since HK did not have an extradition treaty with Taiwan, no one could arrest him under HK laws since the crime was not committed on HK soil. The CEO of Hong Kong then negotiated a extradition treaty with Taiwan. And, here is where Beijing and HK CEO screwed up. They felt well, HK did not have an extradition treaty with mainland China either. So they added that as well. That simple act was used by CIA funded NED which poured millions into HK to start the protest. Which then developed a life of its own.
I agree. Sure the 1980's and 1990's British rule was much better with so many rights but it's better that they have no rights. Look forward to seeing fewer and fewer rights for people everywhere. Glad we are on same page.
@@CCP-Agents-Spotted Haha, funny. You should go read the national security act of US compared to the Hong Kong security act and see which version is more draconian. Keep drinking the west is the good guys kool aid.
People that want to leave can leave and people that want to stay can stay. There are too many people anyways so it's a win win for both sides. There are too many people in Hong Kong anyways.
Hey Uptin, it's not fair to call it China's takeover. They already had HK in 1997 after an agreement with Britain in 1984. It is fair however to say that it's a crackdown on Hong Kong's previous legal position. I live in HK so I know.
I think “Chinas takeover” is literally trying to point out how the autonomy is no longer there despite the agreement China made. Can’t trust 🇨🇳 on anything
Well, they should not have rioted, killed and set people on fire, beat up mainland tourists as well as HK ordinary citizens who opposed their violence and anarchy
He's calling it a takeover to point out how the autonomy is no longer there despite the agreement CN made in the handover. Agreements with them worth zilch.
I was born and I have been living in Hong Kong for 37 years. I was experiencing all of these in first hand. It is so difficult to describe the feeling across these years. I still remember how excitedwe were, as a kid, when Hong Kong was returning to China, because we loved China, and how disappointed now. But we already choose to move on, either keep our head down on our own business （which is still not so bad）, or raise our head up to the unknown, may be worse, future. Thank you for this accurate, all rounded and in depth documentary video. Peace！
Basically you just wish Hong Kong be chaotic and separated from China, but you will be disappointed badly. You may not know what happened in 1997 when HK returned to China, many left HK, but most of them came back.
Well yeah I mean it's written in the books, 2047. I don't think it was realistic to assume it's going to hand overnight. You will find the video to be really impartial and talk about both sides.
@@uptinI very much enjoy your videos and am a fan of your work. However , in this video you have sunk in the quagmire that is your anti-China bias. You may not realize that your tone is very one-sided and I hope you work more on this in the future. You may have originally seeked out to be fair BUT you collapsed under your Western bias lense.
@@uptin you're literally a grifter. Tell me declines in states dont happen in the US, have you been to California? How about Chicago? Two basic examples. Actually ridiculous to talk about the protest, those hooligans destroyed a great city. US is still not over the Capitol Hill insurrection and that lasted 1 day with damage no where near as bad as the month long nonsense in HK.
Omg, I see myself in your video. I'm the student sipping coffee at the Starbucks you filmed hahaha. I remember seeing you filming with a friend and some camera gear that day. A friend of mine noticed me and sent this over. I subbed!🙌🏻
Waaaaa... One discovers that a dictatorship is acting like... a dictatorship! As a French lawyer and French professor of law at the university, no one should be surprised by that move. When I witnessed the 1997 ceremony as a young law student, we discussed that between us. We all agreed that HK will (unfortunately) return quicker to Mainland China than the official 50-year schedule.
But i was shocked also. Last 2 weeks i just visited HK and change a lot. Its no longer the hype it used to be, even night market used to be crowded and now its so dead, no longer shopping destinations, its different when u see the rest of China or South East Asia countries even after covid they can now hype the economy again
Because there hundred of thousands Hong Kong people go to China shopping, eating , the living costs and consumers products are 60% higher than China, they could have same thing costing 1/3 of HK money. Therefore, most Hong Kong people didn’t spend the money in Hong Kong, instead there are Half million people go over China over the weekend
Hongkong is not the place of action anymore, businesswise and touristwise. The mainland has a lot of cities that are vibrant and much more lively both in terms of business and tourism. Hongkong just don't have that attraction as much as it had in the past. Why stay or go to Hongkong when you can go straight to the mainland.
Hong Kong is not really known for night markets-that’s Taiwan. The famous HK street markets are more active in the daytime IMO, and even those are mostly tourist traps selling off-brand and counterfeit goods.
HK protestors were chanting "go back to mainland" to Chinese tourists. They also threatened people for speaking Mandarin, even if some were from Taiwan. That attitude, combined with an expensive HKD, means low demand for tourism.
pretty spot on mate. i moved to HK in 2017, lived it to the fullest and saw the decline by mid-2019, suffered through 2020 and 2021 and called it quits early 2022. good documentary, accurate and full of good info
Because you guys made a group of people who were not political people to become political and with a lot more powers than they ought to. And should... And this is the start of the whole damn thing, that is why.
I am in HK right now. Change is constant. Be adaptive and have a good back up plan. Overall I am optimistic about Hong Kong, only if there is no hot war break out between US and China.
No matter how many hundred thousand people left, Hong Kong is still "wall to wall" people every where. I was in Hong Kong earlier in 2024. No change. One can love or hate a place; but should report the TRUTH; not what you wish.
That's because it would expose Western fearmongering before and during the riots (they still call "peaceful protests") as nothing but lies and propaganda.
when did we miss UK rule? These protestors was 1/7 of Hong Kong people, where the rest go? Behind the television watching the protests surrender and go to uk
When I was growing up, I fully understood Hong Kong's role in the world. But honestly now? What's Hong Kong known for today now that China had all these other cities grow to mega size?
Unfortunately, Hong Kong these days is mostly known for “crazy infrastructure” and “used to be a colony.” It has become diluted by other Asian cities that have now grown and escaped poverty, and can exert economic and cultural influence. The idea that Hong Kong deserves to maintain a monopoly on Asia-Pacific influence is not realistic. You can’t prevent other countries from growing out of poverty, that’s selfish.
As a resident myself: Being known for being developed earlier than everyone else was, but now losing ground (we still are the most developed city in Greater China by HDI, and that will last for at least a decade).
Yeah, Hongkong is not really as attractive as it once was as a tourist or business destination. Why go to Hongkong when you can go to the mainland where the action is.
@@samuelcheung4799 High HDI? Where? Hong Kong is the most expensive city in China, has the worst housing crisis, and the largest wealth gap. You have people living in glorified closets, people who pay rent that is x3 the average in Western cities, the hardest social ladder to overcome, and bleak opportunities for your youth. Kowloon Walled City is still in the minds of most people. Contrast that with Chinese cities and their high level of optimistic people who are being taken cared of without a homelessness issue. Hong Kong has opulence solely from real estate and finance. Hong Kong is literally built off of foreign speculation, corruption, and parasitic institutions.
@@joshtep6784 HDI is based off of three factors: Median income, life expectancy, and average education level. In these three criteria, we in HK are still on top for now.
I’m from hk and uh yea my school life and a bunch of other stuff really changed after Covid. Not gonna complain though, I’m still alive and I didn’t have to lose any family members
Intersting place, my friend went to school here, and has been back. We are all going out for Xmas and New year this 2023. Hopefully we have a nice time.
You are right. This is the result of a society prioritizing solely on monetary benefit and being "useful" to the core lol They built their houses on bucks and sands. Can't withstand a slight breeze.
I moved out of Hong Kong, to Shenzhen. I moved because those rioters would bash HK citizens physically for having a different view. Those rioters killed freedom of speech and many other freedoms. And it takes 15 min from Hong Kong to the 1st mainland China stop, Futian, when traveling with the high speed rail. 45min would take you to the northern border of Guangdong province
Moved out of HK because freedom of speech was restricted but then moved into mainland China that has among the least freedom of speech? Expect nothing less from the use of See See Pee talking points
@@theguy8412 Sure there was. See See Pee media said so. And what does it say about CH1na that the countries with the worst treatment of it's people is supporting Ch1na?
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson USA is the country with the worst treatment of its people, China is the country with the most support for their government in the world. Of course no brains like you will say "they're too scared to say what they really mean!!!" Pathetic.
I went to school with an Aussie bloke who started up some well known restaurants in Hong Kong many years ago. I was hoping to visit but they're all shut now. A sign of the times ?
Great video, Uptin. The gentleman at 9'11" says that life in HK can be its own form of "freedom" because it can be "fully 100% commerce", I don't know what to say to that, but that would be a really sad life, you can't tell me that can attract the type of people that can create dynamic societies. I have visited for extended periods HK about 4 times, I often went when I was traveling for a month or so in parts of Asia, coming from NY, HK "made" a great stopover and adjust to the time zone. I will no longer EVER travel to HK, I would rather spend my stopover time in Tokyo, Singapore, Seoul, or Taipei. What China did to HK, is a perfect deterrence for the Taiwanese people to ever want to be closer to China.
@@slc801 Oh yes they will, they had to give away thousands of plane tickets for people to come visit. The only ones going to HK now are people from Mainland that squat and smoke all over the place.
@@EbuzzNYC I travel to NY a couple times a year and it’s now catching up to pre Covid times people are moving back and tourist are coming back so will Hong Kong .
So true. Hong Kong is stucked in the past. Its people continued to be colonized rather free themselves and to be themselves! They have lost their soul and identity. HK is not a shining metropolis that its used to. Its neigbor Shenzhen has taken over HK in many area not only in economic and urban planning, but in social factors and intellectual sophistication where Hong Kongers were used to look down at them. HK has losing its ground to even Southeast Asia's hub Singapore and Kuala Lumpur!
Hong Kong has seen under China takeover a purposely less attention to their economy and actually active campaign to take away from Hong Kong what it can. That’s why China built its first “open” cities for foreign investment near Hong Kong and massively built up that region.
And looking down on them? A common narrative heard in mainland China is that Chinas culture is the supreme culture and somewhat common narrative I’ve also heard and seen is Chinese people are naturally smarter than other
@@sunjames3276 no, the govt in China literally promotes it. Plus I was married to a Chinese and went often to China. I heard it all. Have you not heard of the popularity of Han supremacy in the mainland? Asianometry has a nice video on that issue
@@sunjames3276 if you want a better analogy than what you have, it would be like calling “white supremacy” a common narrative among the core Trump supporter.
@@ARandomtokii: If you are an economic migrant and you're attracted to go there as well.... and then you buy and sell.... marginalising the locals... and then the other mainlanders.. who shouldn't even cross their own borders manages to cross their borders to see and do deals with the likes of you. What do you think is happening and did happen to HK then ???..... It couldn't have been a normal city. It is always about the speed of things. Shenzen speed. To keep the ROI. To keep the P&Ls. HOW ?!?!!? For a tiny 8 million city !!!! It could do so if it traded international money.. but it didn't. Cos the PRC stopped it !!!! It became an actual regional bank ! Tapping into the PRC's actual banking system !
I'm not a migrant,hk is where im born and seeing it change over the years with the goverment constantly going against the rules set in 1997 has really made this place more dangerous then before@@MeiinUK
One of my main reasons why I hate the mainland government is because they’re also removing Cantonese from all of Guang Dong EVEN Hong Kong, this really breaks my heart, as mainland doesn’t care about our language, so disappointing, I’ve also got a friend he’s moving to New Zealand, and out of my 10 Chinese friends, 6 of them are from Hong Kong, 2 from Taiwan and the rest are from Mainland.
No they did not, but for Hongkongers to integrate into China, they have to learn mandarin as all province in the mainland do. You csn't have a nation with its people not being able to communicate with each other. just look at all the countries with dozens or hundreds of languages, they had to have a national language - Indonesia, India, Philippines, etc.
I am a Malaysian and we all think that HK people are whiny and ridiculous. Most overseas Chinese learn mandarin except the HK people. We all benefited from Chinas rise . HK people whine about the loss of use of Cantonese. They are soooo lost. HK people don’t migrate well as their English is really really bad. A lot of them will end up in the restaurant business….. In HK they have a good life but they will lose all that when they migrate. They must migrate to find out for themselves what they are MISSING. HK should EMBRACE China and think of how to profit as the dragon head ….think of how to suceed. Instead , they are whiny about all sorts of complaints. Hahahahha…..
but it seems more like as the mainland developing, Mandarin is more needed, like in Guangdong, many people are actually from other Provinces and they don’t speak Cantonese..HK the same, like many HKers move to mainland, they need to learn Mandarin… so I don’t think it’s a Communist party’s thing😂
I am living in HK, actually Uptin only talked with ppl who are mostly "western minded", most ppl are quite happy here. and unemployment rate is low.....pls go check it !
@@sl0523 But it's ot about what you want to hear or not, it's about talking facts and talking truths, period that's what should matter the most! In other words show it like it is not like you want it to be.
Yep, there were a lot of HKers that didn't support the protestors, some even fought against those rioters. Western media just paid no attention to those people.
He very clearly stipulated that these are the people who stayed, meaning he hasn't spoken to people who are less satisfied with the situation, and have either already left or are in the process of planning to move out, but even among the ones who he interviewed, it is clear even they recognized the issues.
Anyone older and experienced enough has heard of this before. 1997 changed everything and hk will never be the same. Blah blah blah. What makes HK special is that it can adapt and does adapt time and again,, not many places can do that. The media obviously has an agenda, always see it for yourself
Both Hong Kong and San Francisco had a great run as world class cities you'd want to visit and live in. Now it's over. Will either come back like NYC? Or will both of them start the long road towards becoming the next Detroit? There are many cities that went from hero to zero and never came back to its former glory. I think HK is doomed. As far as SF, I'm not sure but honestly not that optimistic SF. I think both cities have changed forever and not for the better.
7:23 ur video at this timestamp seems to imply that as a result of the Chinese government's effort to influence and control Hong Kong, HK's GDP has been dropping with chart comparing HK's GDP as a percent of China's GDP over the past 25 years. The fact is the chance in the ratio from 19% to 2% is mainly due to progress within China rather than the diminishing of the HK GDP. You could search for the GDP of China without HK for the past 25 years and plot it against HK's own GDP for the past 25 years.
I’m feeling sad because this is actual where I live and this actual right right now is night time for us but just make me sad because I already have a friend. It was my best friend my BFF and she’s moving next year to like somewhere new and I think I’m not gonna really see her, but probably see her a few times, but I’m really gonna miss her, that’s why I’m sending this message you know so that’s why I kind of feel bad for Hong Kong even though you know ages doesn’t feel right
Lots of HK people also left after the British handover but after a few years most decided to go back. Most of those who left are educated and expects same good paying jobs overseas where they moved. But reality is very different a lot will get disappointed and have to do blue collar jobs just to support their family.
At that time people saw the CCP was upholding the 50 years promise and things didn't really change. Things are different now and I don't think it will revert back.
Many of them silently return to Hong Kong from different western countries, the newly census show the population back to the levels even higher numbers than those whose left Hong Kong. This guy only see a little, interviewing those western oriented moron and jumps into conclusions
It’s only going to be downhill from here with increased control of HK from Beijing, let’s be honest here. It will not be the same as before no matter how much of an optimistic spin is made of this.
@@lesrealisationsaudet9070 same thing that is happening in vancouver and BC. chinese nationals with CCP money buying up land, getting close to politicians, and trying to infiltrate our society.
Its the same in UK, the high streets are ghost towns. Has been like this for the last 10 years less and less. Every town looks the same, even the cities are looking empty nobody goes out. Where 21:00 - 24:00 would be busy now looks like bedtime.
What region are you talking about? Hong Kong speaks mainly Cantonese, a dialect from Canton province of China. Hong Kong also celebrates and practices Chinese culture, such as Chinese New Year, the special dates in the Lunar calendar, and not to mention their food. They also uses the same Chinese characters in their literature too.
@@DubboU The ”Cantonese is a dialect” is because mandarin is the only official language of PRC, apart from that, Cantonese’s grammar, vocabulary, complexity has many differentiations from mandarin. Many festivals in China are also celebrating in Japan, Korea, Vietnam and even United States, Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, so are those countries also part of China?
As a true Hongkonnger and also growing up in a grass root family, the majority of us didn’t believe China government, the Chinese gov seeks HK as a place for earning money, so they didn’t care about how the people lived well on not. I strongly believe more and more HK people would leave their home town, due to many reasons, for example, political tensions, poor living conditions, and resource competition. HK would eventually lose its superiority, especially by embracing Western values with an open mind, that's the reason for its success here in the past. The crisis of faith is happening rapidly.
I'm the opposite. I grew up in the UK and I see the benefits that Hong Kong still possesses. Been here for 10 years and I have no intention of going back to the UK, which is even more unstable than HK. My kids go to international school and life in general is pretty good. 👍🏼
@@A.T.148-Scot-HK If you child can study at international school, it means that your financial condition is much better than majority of HK ppl, so you can’t turely experiences what people from the grass root about seeking for their “normal life” .One of the key points of HK success is due to people in here seeking Hong Kong as a state rather than a City. We born here, married here, contributed most of our efforts to our career in here and dead here. Majority of us didn't think about leveving here before the political change, but now on, the gate of the cage is already opened, we have more chooses for our life, instead of spending our whole life for the property.
Hong Kong was a sh1thole for hundreds of thousands old and unemployed let them leave then maybe the old unemployed and homeless can get work and proper housing.
@@ericyuen5946 the ability of grassroots people in HK to leave for more spacious and less competitive countries speaks more to HK’s economic success than it does to political struggles. If you honestly seek a better life abroad, it’s great that you have the resources to do so. HK has been too crowded for decades, no matter who is in charge. The idea that working class people are being oppressed by “China” does not make sense to me. China did not cause the housing shortage and China did not suddenly take away HK’s export monopoly. So I don’t view that as a practical reason to emigrate.
@@canto_v12 The housing shortage is not happening here, indeed the prices of properties are unreasonably high. The government didn’t get enough control over the local developers, and living demand is being taken advantage of by the developer as an investment, as the government also takes advantage of the high land prices. Frankly, the HK gov is actually the puppet of the Chinese gov which totally loses their ability of autonomy, particularly in policy-making toward local residents.
I am 80 years of age and came to HK 60 years ago. I have seen riots in 1967 and riots in 2019. I have seen several property busts and booms. I have seen businesses move in and out. I have seen mass migrationinto HK from both China, '60' & '70's and Vietnam, late '70's & early '80's, and I have seen mass migration out on HK in the '60s, '90's and now 2020's. I have seen and experienced a lot in HK. It seems only people under 30 years of age were interviewed for this video, be they locals or expats, which means they have not experienced colonial HK nor just pre/post '97 HK. So views expressed are all formed from a relatively short term experience of HK. This does mean to say they are wrong, but that Time provides a filter which ensures short term impressions can be re-visited, re-assessed and if necessary explained in a somewhat different light. So please interview older generations and get a broader viewpoint.
well said
Good point, but older folks barely speak English and are very reserved (that's my experience in HK)
bear in your mind that Hongkong is a land which was looted by British hundred years ago and the fact that is land for China forever. One country two systems does not mean this land is not owning and governing by China after 1997. Therefore, why Hongkong be lived different to any city in China. all people are equal in China and Hongkonger should have no exemption. see
@@josephguo6256 looted from UK , HK get rich , Loot by their motherland CCP china, and HK get distroyed , well said
You'll get on, saying anything anti PRC will get you into jail - you have no choice.
I'm a Chinese who went to study in the US. Met a Hong Kong girl and we fell in love. She told me so many wonderful things about HongKong, and we mainland Chinese looked up rro HK to in the 2000s. We were madly in love for several years, but eventually her dad made her go back to Hong Kong, I stayed in the US for graduate school and eventually immigrated. She got married, then I got married, but we kept in touch couple times a year. But I haven't heard from her since 2019. I tell myself that her husband has UK citizenship so they probably are ok, but I dont't really know. I traveled through HK airport with my family to vacation in Singapore before COVID. Didn't realize it at that time that was the last chance to see her and the Hong Kong she told me so much about.
When in Rome do as the romans do, get a wite griII. Sure it may be harder at first, but at least if u succeed she will be more loyal. Asian griIIs might be easier initiially but they'll always know they'll never join the mainstream culture, unless they're with a man from the mainstream culture and conformity is very important in Asian culture.
Why would you think she’s not ok
You didn’t see all the main things of studies…I’m an Hong Konger and I’m in primary,every time you need to face the China flag,and the Disneyland is full of Chinese.
If she is from HK then she has easy access to the UK citizenship as she will hold a thing called BNO (British National Overseas)
so you haven't been loyal to your wife and family ?
I was in Hong Kong a month ago. The vibe is definitely somewhat different. However, it's still an amazing city.
Well said. Different but still a cool city
I would not say it’s a city, but in the truth it’s a city. HK is running with a country system, it also has different sides like fishing villages, country side villages, island’s villages, factory buildings and so many mountains, islands and beaches. It’s a lot complicated than a city structure.
I think UK designed HK to be an independent country, but finally it doesn’t work because of China wants to take HK very very much.
@@TheETchild: FYI... some of the so called "villages"... are the descendents and the remaining Imperial individuals of the last Chinese dynasties... and this generation of people, migrants, mixed race globalists are eradicating the very remaining individuals who OUGHT to have hold power.. but does NOT !!!! And so many people call these individuals as "uneducated". (In fact, this is far from the truth... cos they don't speak out does not mean that they are uneducated.) And to be able to read and write were once upon a time, resided with the Imperial civil servants and inside their doors only. For me to see the kind of going ons now today.. as if those people are dead... It's like...
HK protestors were crazy. Good Beijing dropped the hammer.
Thanks to the CCP.
I was in HK two months ago and I saw many empty shopping units, empty streets during the evening hours after 9. What shock me the most is a closed 7Eleven unit 😮
The pandemic killed off a lot of retail which operates on paper thin margins due to the high rent.
Things will bounce back but not very quickly.
You can see more vacant stores in USA, violence, shooting, zero shopping…..
Still better than shitholes like US or UK
I’m from Hong Kong
I’m from Hong Kong,they won’t let use said 香港人加油
I started traveling to Asia in 2007 and would always use Hong Kong as my base, flying there directly from New York. Just about every year from 2007 to 2019 I continued to stop over for a few days. At first I couldn't believe that I was in a Communist country. I really couldn't see any restrictions. But over the years it changed. During my last visit in 2019 I felt as if Hong Kong had fallen asleep. There was virtually no one on the streets after 9pm. It was one of my 5 favorite cities around the world, but that Hong Kong is gone now. Just a guess here, but I think it is viewed as a colonialist outpost by the Communists, and they will happily let it wither on the vine. I won't go back. I fly through Singapore now.
Colonialists? It was part of China before British arrived. WTF do you mean.
2019 was one of Hong Kong’s most unstable years. Business leaves because of instability.
Your choice of Singapore, a very cool place but one of the least politically liberal modern societies in the world, confirms that business values stability above political ideology, and certainly above some vague definition of “Communism.”
@@canto_v12wdym poltical liberal country what does that mean
@@Bell_plejdo568p protest, political opposition and filibustering are generally not tolerated in Singapore.
Nothing like hk.
I used to live in HK in the 2000s. My friends who are still there have been telling me that the city has changed a lot, and not for the better. I plan to visit and see for myself. ☺
They haven't seen anything yet.
Marxism/communism and the rule of law/the freedom of speech - as well as any other freedoms - are fundamentally incompatible and mutually exclusive.
Lots of new places have been opened, lot's of happenings. 🎉
@@ruslankolotogin That's great to hear. The West Kowloon Cultural District was still only an idea when I left. I saw images and videos of fantastic-looking new museums and art galleries. I am looking forward to experiencing them. ☺
I finally went back to HK after the pandemic restrictions were lifted. I missed the place so much and I don't really care for what happened in 2019--IMO people went looking for trouble and found it.
HK is no trouble as long as you don't use the place to throw secessionist tantrums. I don't know why people are still so hung up over the Chinese flag flying over Hong Kong. That ship sailed in 1997, literally!
It's great to see HK coming back after the pandemic restrictions. We can all agree that HK's restrictions were awful and unnecessary.
@@canto_v12 That's reassuring to hear; it puts a smile on my face, because I love that place so much. 😎
I just briefly visited HK for the first time the other day and really liked it and plan to go back soon to explore much more.
I’ve spent the last 12 years in Asia but came to HK for the first time just now. I had heard it was a 24 hour city but honestly it seemed to be mostly closed after 9-10pm. People seem stressed and work very late. I guess I must have missed the glory days which is a shame
COVID restrictions forced businesses to close at 10pm, which was silly because obviously COVID only infects people after 10pm. They're trying to bring the nightlife back but the efforts are honestly depressing.
Tbh the glory days are looking with rose coloured glasses. Back in the colonial era it was a 6 day work week and the city was a lot dirtier than it is now. People only remember the booming economy which was built upon the unlimited supply of cheap labour. Once the Chinese wages rose, and have good opportunities at home, they no longer need to work for Hong Kong businesses specifically. Thus HK’s role became diluted.
The old glory days only worked for u if u were a white expat since you drown in cash and pussy but its not like that anymore which is why they left ( and complain about HK now)😂😂
It changed.
Hong Kong has changed a lot. I have lived in HK since 2005 and unfortunately, due to all the circumstances that u have mentioned, my family and I have also moved out to Singapore and Korea. It really is sad how HK has changed for the worst...
I am glad, hk will be better without dirty Americans
HK is getting better after those opposites left.
@@jianyang6281right right right right right. Everything you said are correct.
@jianyang6281 if it were better, our government won't need to try and "dig" professionals from elsewhere...
@@isaacchung4443 at least you wont be burnt on the street by some random cockroaches.
The problem with "100% commerce" is that for foreign investors that doesn't actually guarantee their investment. It's almost like you need a bit of politics to have a well functioning market. I think HK has lost all the trust it once had, and trust is important for financial markets and once it's gone it's gone.
What do you expect. Before 1997 HK was ruled by UK. Now its returns back to China. Westerners come to China to make quick buck. Trust got nothing to do with it because there are many times more foreign investments in China than HK.
Tell me which country doesn't have a national security law? And was business environment better with the rioters roaming around destroying properties?
The HK business environment is bad is because of the global economy downturn thanks to US increasing interest rates.
Well, it wants to be 100% commerce but with China's influence scaring off investments, it's not "100% commerce".
@@momo_san1980 "Tell me which country doesn't have a national security law? " And all countries have prisons so I guess that makes all countries equal to North Korea?
" And was business environment better with the rioters roaming around destroying properties? " They were better off before China decided to violate the agreement. Now hundreds of thousands have fled or in the process of leaving -- mostly educated young workers. How does that make HK better?
I get it, you like the CCP but come on...why does momtaro like 0ppresi0n?
When can US releases the Russians' money, imposed during war? 😂
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Thanks for the video. I wanted to know how things are going in HK, western medias only talked about it during the protests and now it's pure silence.
It's silence mostly because Hong Kongers are, ironically, largely apolitical. The politically inclined are a very vocal minority so they seem to carry an outsized influence on media. The vast majority of my family and friends who live in or frequent Hong Kong really don't care about how fast or slow electoral reform goes, as long as they have good jobs and their kids have good prospects. On the contrary, my friends in the US who don't actually really visit the place, suddenly have a concern that we "lost all our freedom."
We've beat the horse to death in 2019. We'll never all agree on everything that happened during the civil unrest, and a few outliers in my family have felt awkward enough to stop showing up to gatherings. None of them are in trouble, they just carry stronger feelings and can't validate them. Eventually we'll learn to be more like Americans--to separate family from politics.
The media really magnifies some things to be larger than life. The only thing they were really right on IMO, is that our pandemic restrictions really, really sucked more than other countries. But that's finally gone too.
Cus now the censorship… wait no, police state… no, “national security “ is working so well in Hong Kong, it’s steadily declining and nothing worth reporting anymore.
Also HKers are never “apolitical” - there was once 2mil people took to the streets back during the mass protests in 2019
Well, a lot of inocent people wanted to stand to tell china it is un fair be China arrested them. I almost got arrested, and I'm sorry, covid start in China because China whated to stop Hong Kong from fighting with the stupid police and leaving China. Just because I'm poor so I must stay in this horrible china. Even my crush left😔
@@CKJamesTang You can always go to UK. They making it easy for HKers to migrate with BNO and providing short term financial support for BNO migrants. And UK is now facing workers shortage . If you're not choosy you can get a job easily. You don;t have to suffer any more in "horrible" CHina.
HK hasn't changed much. Also under us (Brits) they never had the right to vote either
A lot of solid information in this video Uptin. I’ve been to HK 9 times over the last 20 years and it’s one of my favorite cities in Asia. But I’m concerned post protests and post pandemic how things have changed. I guess we’ll see when I make my way there again.
Hong hong is much better then before . The dumb protesters are leaving hong kong but half of then are coming back 😅😅. I come to hong kong for one year to work . I'm still in hong kong now . is been 4 years .
@Forward GoThe economic and political freedom is what makes Hong Kong a gateway. China's taking over means the lose of these and the foundation of being a gateway.
Don’t need your concern. We are good here . You’re only shown sanitized footages of the protest . If you’re for those territories funded by the CIA and MI5, you’re not welcome here !
@@jerrywu8514 nah just the economy basis being a fiscal paradise and international financial capital. Also anglo propaganda that pursues having influence using capital so china use it as an advantadge rather than a problem. Of course in the end if they have too much influence as pretended china is wise to not let them have it. Thats the game
Anglos want to have influence there cause money throw its money and propaganda and thats all. Definetly not a freedom and democracy case, if they care why the actual fck they negotiate with china to return a colony in the first place?😂 cause dictatorship vs democracy? Cmon is the more laughable narrative that they always throw, so cheap
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Great video. It touched all the aspects of the story, the controversies, changes, difficulties and then you present a very nice resolution of the whole situation.
British laws
@@albback8176: Murders, rapes, robberies.. were often and common in HK... and yet you only focused on that single Taiwanese situation ? You have no idea about the deaths and murder cases in HK during the 1980s the 1990s... and more ? You have no idea that, those who now live in those high rises, were the same coordinators and the same criminals that did the deeds, and that others.. across the globe helped them reach their dreams ? You mean to tell me that you did not know this ? So if criminals can sit in the legislative councils... the management tiers inside HK.. and more.. Do you think that it actually has a rule of law ? We call this corruption. In the pursuit of... wealth.. and capitalism... lots of people did their own thing... and they are going to be the same people that will see a next generation. Against the people whom they managed to push down. i.e. The rest of the remaining chinese. (Cos HK had some of the chinese that fled the Qing dynasties and the barbarians etc.... With the help of foreigners.. they managed to get partners, money, wealth, have kids.. and more.) And now.. you are saying that what.... They literally managed to achieve what they wanted. All along. Despite the stupid odd articles online now about these people... Which is pointless in a way. Some of the media empire coming out of HK is exactly about all of this.... For a 8 million existence... what did you think will happen ????....
sad to see how fast and how negative these new changes are hitting Hong Kong
lmao it’s really not that bad than how the internet thinks you’d be suprised at how many people who don’t care or are straight up not involved in politics.
@@jiji7250 laws will make them care
what will be your reaction when u're cut off from all the global social media apps ?
@@bsjddjk wtf? nobody is restricted in China, you knw that right? It is to go against the gov is when you be silenced. aka "cut off" from the world. you think Jack Ma doesnt know any news from US or something? 🤣
@@bsjddjk Hong Kong does not have any internet or social media restrictions.
@@jiji7250 Protesters make it sound like people only visit Hong Kong because of "politics." The reopening is proving them hilariously wrong--visitors and businesses value stability, not some vague sense of "democracy."
I’m currently searching for job opportunities in Hong Kong, great vid a lot of diff perspectives
The man at 6:39 is scared to the bone being careful what he says. It really proves a point.
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Try to said something offensive in western world, you will get cancelled & lost your job
Did you know during the british occupation only Whites are allowed to be in top govt positions.
@@malakatan3235 Typing racial slurs on twitter is different from criticising your government lmao
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 it is same as restrictions of free speech 🤣 or now you have to decide what is free speech are? Just like human rights?
11:32 The West Kowloon High Speed Rail Station where you are and said at that timestamp gets you to Shenzhen Futian station in 14 minutes (not 45 minutes like you said in the video).
During the protest, pre-pandemic, I was in touch with some of my HK friends, who, without exception were in support of the protest. I actually told them that the protest was meaningless and that they would be lucky if China did not send in tanks like they did during Tianamen. They were actually not that well briefed about how the Basic Law and how the Handover came about.
I followed the negotiations for the Handover and Basic Law in the early 1980s in the UK when Thatcher was negotiating it with Deng. Simply put, the Chinese thought that they were getting back HK in the same format existing during the negotiations, which was direct rule by way of an appointed leader. At that time, HK was ruled by a Governor General appointed by the UK.
However, after the treaty was done and signed off, the UK government suddenly decided to set up a HK democratic legislative assembly to elect HK's leader, in essence handing over a poison pill to China. Of course China was furious about it but could not do anything as the treaty allowed UK to do that. Many commentators in UK at that time lambasted Thatcher's government for the pure hypocrisy of the move. As they rightly pointed out, HK had never ever had any democratic rights and any attempts to do so had being firmly quashed by the British as seditious during their rule! The British used the same sedition law that they had introduced into Malaysia and Singapore, and which long after their independence from the UK, continued to be use by both the Malaysian and Singaporean governments against their political opponents.
Suddenly, after signing off the treaty with China and years of suppressing any democracy movement in HK, the British government decided to introduce democratic elections for HK's leadership, which was not what China had expected! In essence, the British had shafted China, again! HK was given to Britain as a result of the two Opium Wars where the British had fought China to continue as state sponsors in pushing opium into China. Read that shameful history of Britain's Opium Wars where it became the only country in history which became an international state-sponsored Opium pusher.
I told my HK friends that did they expect UK or US to invade or challenge China militarily? Like they did in Vietnam, Afghanistan or Iraq? Those were minor countries with very weak military and financial clout. Which was not the case with China.
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/30/the-hong-kong-unofficials-who-advised-britain-on-the-handover-and-were-ignored
"When the decision to relinquish Hong Kong in 1997 was finally announced on 20 April 1984, ironically it brought a sense of liberation to the advisers. Emboldened, a nine-member delegation - led by Chung - went to London to try to exert pressure on the government.
But London was prepared. The press were briefed against them before their arrival and described their statement as “militant”. Their crucial questions to their colonial masters were: what would happen if China breached the Sino-British joint declaration? Would residents of Hong Kong be able to cast their vote on the joint declaration? If so, how?
It was a controversial visit at home, too. Pro-Beijing newspapers accused the delegation of “spreading gloom in Hong Kong”, despite Hong Kong’s stock exchange index having already fallen by 200 points since the 20 April announcement. “We are here to try to reflect the Hong Kong people’s aspirations,” said Selina Chow, a member of the delegation, as reported by the Guardian on 13 May 1984. “We are asking the British government: ‘How are you going to fulfil your obligations to me? How are you going to protect me against these doubts?’”
But before they received any answer from London, they were dismissed - including by their former boss, MacLehose, who by now had been given a life peerage. To Chung, it was unforgivable. “I shall never forget the words of the MPs who criticised us, saying that the unofficial members of the two councils were not elected so how could they represent Hong Kong? … I said to them: ‘How can you claim that you can negotiate for us? You have no mandate from us either; I never elected you,’” he later recalled to Tsang."
As I kept reminding my HK friends during the protests, the Handover was negotiated by an Imperialist Conqueror and Colonist, which was never elected by HK! And who negotiated not what was in the best interest of HK but in the best interest of the UK. However, conveniently, both the HK younger generation and British commentators conveniently glossed over that!
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@@uptin do a video on Belarus ... i dare you
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All said and done, there are a lot of people in HK who have back pocket options who are upbeat about Hong Kong. But if shit hits the fan, they may pack up and leave quickly. Those who are filled with despair about the future are people who don't have such options, cannot afford to move and perhaps don't have the language skills to do it either.
Hari Sadu is a famous name. Is it your real name? :)
@Broskisnowski Some have but most have not. But even those who haven't have second options. That's what I'm saying.
@@harisadu8998 many have already left. If the UK cares about these HK separatists so bad, they would allow them to migrate to the UK for free. And they have not yet, so what does that say about the UK? Truthfully as a Hong Kong native, I'd be glad if all protestors and separatists and race traitors would leave Hk and migrate to Europe where they can "drown" themselves with freedom all they want. I do not want anymore western influence infiltrating the Chinese sphere because they will eventually steal our resources and take over our country. I would never allow myself to be ruled by Europeans and whites.
@@harisadu8998 haha, good. Served them right, that's what they get for their anglophile, arrogant behaviors even to their fellow citizens from mainland china simply because they're richer than them.
Now as the saying goes, karma is a bitch. 😊
I think you are mostly right . But I don’t agree that the people who stay in Hong Kong are the one who can’t leave . I have no doubt that some left . But a lot of them do have foreign passports . I have many HKeses friends that I met in schools in the UK and they choose to stay in Hong Kong . They also happen to have British passports ( not BNO) .
Thé well off one already have foreign passports . Don’t get me wrong , I am not happy with how the HK government treat the citizen who are fighting freedom ands democracy .
As a Hong Konger that have been living here my entire life, I could definitely see how Hong Kong had change over the years (specially bc of the COVID 19) and I agree with that China have been trying to 'take back Hong Kong'.
And I can tell you since I'm also a student at Hong Kong that the language has change A LOT, back when I'm in high school (not a long time ago), the teachers still speak Cantonese but between the students, shockingly, almost ALL of them in MY school/classes speak mandarin to each other and there's even some people that don't even speak Cantonese or understand it which is just CRAZY to me. And the reason are simple...
it's because the students that speak Mandarin IS from CHINA, I'm dumbfound when I find out that I'm the only few in my classes that is a native Hong Konger and almost 85% of my classmates are Chinese and from china, LIKE WHAT???!!! I kinda get that the china schools suck and the parents want their kids to be in a better school but 85% of my class?! That is crazy to me.And not just in schools, in the streets you can hear people speak mandarin instead of Cantonese.
All I can say is that Hong Kong is changing, very quickly and I personally don't like that, I mean it's fine to speak mandarin but I feel like even the native Hong Kong kids is force to learn how to speak in mandarin (including me) just because no one speak Cantonese in schools anymore and that is just sad.
And I want to change that but how can I? I'm just one person, I try to talk Cantonese with some of my friends but they usually just say something like "Why are you speaking Cantonese?", I mean we're in Hong Kong? What am I supposed to say?
The fact that I have to watch all this happened right in front of my eyes is just depressing, although I have live here my whole life and I absolutely love it here. I must say that I understand why so many people is leaving Hong Kong and now my goal is to study as much as I can, save money and get out.
I have a few places in mind, like the UK, Canada or Germany.
I just feel like I want to 'escape', I just feel like there'll be more freedom in those places then here and I can finally express my feelings and be myself. But that's in the future, I still need to study and work my way through.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate how Chinese people is coming to Hong Kong to study and all that but I feel like it's just changing Hong Kong for me. But that's just my opinion.
Judging from your description, you felt suffocating by friends ( mostly from school ) not accepting your speaking Cantonese. Make some new friends that speaks Cantonese , because recently all of the Cantonese speaking people are promoting the language in Television in China.
Not too long ago Cantonese is accepted as a language not a dialect by the United Nations.
I am neither pro or against Mandarin speaking or pro or again China trying to make Hong Kong people realize that we are REAL Chinese.
I grew up in Kowloon side , went to Chinese school from kindergarten , learned about Chinese history, goes to Cantonese Opera etc.
Then I went to English high school. All teachers and classmates spoke English and we were encouraged to practice speaking English among ourself. So I never learned mandarin. Maybe that is the same that your friends assumed that at school you speak mandarin well and you can continue speaking their language. They will not learn Cantonese , unless the person they deal with is a foreigner who does not speak mandarin, but happens to speak Cantonese. 😅😂. I am a Canadian. Spoke English when shopping in Peking or Shanghai.😮😊
Once I am outside of school I read Chinese newspaper and watch both mandarin movie and Cantonese movie. Luckily at least I understand mandarin. Later in life, I realized that the foreigners who took Asian Studies learned mandarin and wrote traditional Chinese.
Dear young friend, if you want to escape your situation, all you need is move from Kowloon side to HK side after you finish high school.
Because the same situation happens outside of Hong Kong too. I am living in Toronto Canada and I used to be able to speak Cantonese freely when shopping in Chinatown. Now I have to speak English because I cannot ask in Mandarin or now we say Po-Tung-Hua .
I visited Hong Kong every year, and can feel the changes. My friends and relatives all live in Hong Kong side now. I got lost in Kowloon side.
dang as a hong konger, it is messed up... why do they have to like- I feel like they want to take our language away...
I was born the mainland China, immigrated to Canada with my family when I was 16 ish. Visited HK twice, once when I was just a little kid, didn't remember much, other than it was raining quite a lot.
The second time was in 2014, my first impression was the locals aren't very particularly
friendly towards me, I understand Cantonese very well just can't speak much, so I was talking in Mandarin(or English if really necessary) for most of the time and didn't receive the best treatment from locals😂
I like HK, I genuinely do. Watched TVB shows growing up...Beautiful culture mix, different vibe than most other places, delicious food...but seems like HK as a city is just swirling down, which is a shame. I've met a lot of people who came from Hongkong over the years, and I always liked to ask them as in what do they think of Hongkong, the answers went from "missing HK sometimes" to "Hell I'll never be going back", those words along has demonstrated a lot of their thoughts, sadly.
I think HK should be independent, the culture and the Cantonese language should be very well preserved, (it's a beautiful language!) those are the things that made Hongkong to be so unique like no other, unfortunately I believe a lot of people, especially those with power in their hands, thinks opposite😢.
@@brucexue Why can’t we just be a country? I am a Hong konger. And to be honest, we already have our own government, law, LANGUAGE, culture, and we’re MORE westernised than China (for sure), our own currency (HKD) too! we can basically be a country!
You need to interview hongkongers who moved to UK, NZ and all those places. You might be surprised, many of them are having worse life than they were in Hong Kong!
lol, the consequences
Agreed.
You're right. I know some roo.
Let them enjoy their freedom without the money. The salaries and opportunities were given to them by their government. The reality is much harsher aboard due to westerners weak left mindset. They feel bad for some people, so they let in all sort of poor people in. The west is deteriorating very fast and kept raising taxes. From HK such as no taxes to western country with high taxes. Can’t enjoy if all money is going to taxes.
@Forward Go no matter how bad you paint China negatively, they will remain gold even if you tell the whole world that they are not. The world will eventually see through your lies and ignore you. Macron has learned that the hard way, that's for sure, so does the African countries and middle eastern countries and south american countries, wait... so who are the U.S. trying to portray negative image about China to? Well.. it's the west.
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the background cymbal crashes and loud percussion, in the background music at around 13:08, is really, really distracting.
background music serve no purpose
Hong Kong with six 6 millions population is like here in Singapore, another tiny island with seven 7 million souls lives like sardines in a can, where else in nearby vast bountiful Australia in Asia-Pacific region which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants... A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room. 😔
Australia is a prison colony
It's what they have chosen for themselves though.
LMFAO. Japan is not congested. People CHOOSE to live in Tokyo, where it is congested. They sleep on tatamis and put away their beds in the morning, that's Japanese culture. Jesus, read a few books before commenting.
'Slavery, Colonialism & Colonization' are all evil things done and benefited by evildoers.
The West/Christian Europeans are major participants & benefactors of centuries-long global,
- Slavery,
- Colonialism,
- Colonization worldwide, from North/South America to Australia/New Zealand to Siberia/Far-East Asia.
Europe for Native Europeans,
Africa for Native Africans,
America for Native Americans,
Asia-Pacific for Native Asians-Pacific islanders.
'Slavery, Colonialism & Colonization' which are all evil things done and benefited by evildoers.
Terrific documentary! Thank you so much with sharing this with the community, subscribed
I was in KH on Dec 24th, 2019 right before COVID. I'd like to go return someday.
12:06 if people say something negative, one can be arrested now… sadly this is one freedom that is no longer in HK anymore. I still hope the best for people of Hong Kong and China.
I don’t think julien Assange will agree with you !
The narrative "HK sends criminal to China" is flawed. What happend was that there was a HK couple who traveled to Taiwan. The man murdered the woman and fled back to HK. There was no extradiction treaty between HK and Taiwan. The new criminal extradiction treaty was also updated to be inclusive of China. So it is not about "send criminal to China".
I'm 18 and I used to be in until when I was 5 lately I've been thinking to revisit the place but it seems like people over there facing many issues hope HK gets back to it's full potential.
That will ONLY happen when China is free!!
Come on back, it’s getting better!
Come on guys, don't live under a rock, china has literally better security than Hong Kong 💀
新加坡有發達製造業且是煉油中心、世界港口中心，這些產業也撐起了許多普通人的就業，培養了一批中高收入水平的中產階層，香港，缺少了這樣的部分，中低端服務業養活了大量就業者，而金融業才是支柱，金融業的特點就是大部分人其實享受不到很多數字增長帶來的好處😢😢😢
香港之所以会没落，完全是自己本地化了，之前香港不仅是中国货运港口中心，也是中华文化中心，更是中国的外贸中心。随着内地崛起，香港自治越来越本土化，排斥内地文化进入，排拆内地对外贸易，排斥内地人，使自己的旅游业一落千丈。造成连锁反应，使自己的国际商业街成为本地人消费。等等
@@caomr7976 我很討厭香港的底層服務業者，和他們當地的律師、工程師交流，即使觀點不同大家還可以聊，底層服務業者甚至聽到我不同口音的粵語都要白眼，真不懂它們西關方言混雜鬼佬的方言怎麼會有優越感。我覺得它們社會已經習慣性把一切不好都歸因為Chinese的不好，當年是哪些人阻撓九十年代末進行的電子工業轉型，是誰始終不讓公租房變成主流？每一個是它們自己的選擇，而不是中共。要是中共在港像人民行動黨那樣雷厲風行說一不二，早就搞好了
I’m of a different opinion, there’s still opportunity in Hong Kong. I don’t see the government fully integrating the RMB or fully removing the SAR status even post 2047. It wouldn’t make sense to given that Shenzhen is just across the border, the competitive advantage that Hong Kong had would dissipate.
As a foreigner with a Hong Kong wife, it’s still very foreigner friendly and open for business. I applied for a visa through wife, was granted and only cost $44AUD. Very easy.
If HK remains a safe and stable place with lower tax, people will come and stay. Most people don't really care about freedom this and that.
@@se7enzee444 that’s such horseshit, people are desperate to escape China
@@se7enzee444
Most people WITH MONEY , I MEAN lot and lot of Money, DO care about their MONEY. And what CCP did to HK doesn't make them feel safe of leaving their money in HK. These money are leaving amass and that goes HK financial sector.
The biggest problem with CCP isn't their law, it is that their law is so vain and have so many loop-hole that they can arrest anyone based on the law if the leader feel like it. Worst People whom are arrested just disappear, they don't get to contact their family, lawyer, hell the police don't even tell their family about it.
Why would the CPC care about HK's competitive advantage?
@@cck4863 The very wealthy people don't like a strong government because they can't run it. The elites in HK can no longer control the HK government.
Do you personally know anyone arrested by the Chinese government? Or you just listen to the news from a western media outlet?
HK is dead in the water .. no matter how this one short hair guy sugarcoated it .. vacant stores will continue to increase .. commercial stores value have come down 30 0r 40% already .. residential prices have gone down 15% last year … nobody has the crystal ball to predict how fast and how much it will go down … but the downward spiral is definite .. Employment seems to be decent for now .. some positions are opening up as people left to other countries .. but the economy will go downhill quickly .. Unlike security law in other countries … this new law stuffed upon HKers is definitely the last straw .. an instrument to control you .. freedom no more .. international city no more
How is HK comparing to UK, US and Taiwan? I live in the US and I se many empty stores and many homeless people. When I watch the news, there are massive protests UK and France.
@@se7enzee444 the plandemic started in hongkong. remember where the mask mandates around the world originate from?
@@se7enzee444 It's called freedom, human rights and democracy which China does not have and HK no longer has.
I'm sorry, but isn't values coming down exactly what the Hong Kong working class population wanted? Decades and decades of skyrocketing values and declining social mobility, and now a decrease is a bad thing?
@@canto_v12 red chinas only gonna let their own party members take over the best jobs. the poor stands no chance.
To be honest, what city in the world is robust and thriving? If only 100k people left HK, it's a drop in the bucket. Residential real estate is $2500 usd/sq feet. It needs to come down more to be affordable for the average citizen.
Never count out HK. The people are so amazing … high energy, hard working, sharp witted, generous … HK will always snap back.
I am a Hong Konger and have been in the UK for 2.5 years - not too long and not too short. To be fair, there are many things I needed to adapt to here in the UK: the culture, lifestyle, people, and work, among others. Speaking about job stability, taxes, and wages, I believe Hong Kong is better than many other European countries. However, what I've learned, gained, and experienced here in the UK are resilience, independence, an open-minded mindset, respect, and, ultimately, the most important thing - freedom, including the freedom of speech.
What truly matters to me now isn't just about money, but rather the freedom, or perhaps even something as simple as that (I know it might sound a bit cheesy). Nonetheless, it's a privilege for me to express my opinions here, and sometimes I feel a sense of sadness observing how Hong Kong, my home, has gradually become a place that I'm not familiar with. It's disheartening to witness every integral part of Hong Kong slowly being eroded.
Anyway, Hong Kong will always remain the best place and home in my heart. 香港人加油 💛
P.S. THANK YOU UPTIN FOR THE VIDEO :)💯
Enjoy the freedom exercised by "Just Stop Oil" protesters.
Funny you should mention freedom of speech. Your side and rioters used violence and arson against people who had different views than you. You guys took away my freedom of speech.
Did HK protestors give people with opposing views freedom of speech? You guys used violence and arson against people who just wanted you guys to tone it down. Good riddance you left. Stay the F out.
Amazing episode. Keep it uptin. Road to success
Thanks a ton 🫶
The procedures in the new train station in Weast Kowloon are much slower than in the old Hung Hom Station. Until now, you are much faster in Guangzhou Center with the intercity train than the high-speed train to Guangzhou South Station.
Just my personal experience.
The key benefit of West Kowloon is the HSR connection to the Chinese national network.
At Hung Hom, your only choice is Guangzhou East, and once you get there, you're not really on the HSR network either (the HSR connections are at Guangzhou South). But sure, if your final destination is somewhere in Guangzhou, you would probably do better taking a slower train from Hung Hom--if they decide to keep that service.
Hkers have the freedom to support the emperor. If you dare to say something against him, you will be thrown to jail simple. That's why so many left. So sad CCP crushed hkers like this and flooded hk with mainlanders. All core values we held dear are gone.
Typical Loser comment
Surprising that HK hasn't reformed greater than it has under China and its thrived unscathed for the most part. Protests aside, financial and market confidence could be far worse, affecting locals.
The ppl in Hong Kong suffer from colonial hungover, common in former british colonies.....
Especially more common in places where their rights are being more limited than when they were last colonized
@HomerOJSimpson, are there any signs in hong Kong today that say" no chinese allowed"? More limited my ass.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson During British rule, the HK governors are all appointed by the British with zero HK input.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson lmao, Chinese government is the one who granted ordinary Hong Kong people the right to vote. During the colonial rule, Hong Kong people were second or third tier citizens.
@@avocadotoast4934 Yes they were -- and yet HK had freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and in general far more freedoms than they do in 2023. And "The current chief executive is John Lee selected as Chief Executive in the 2022 election, appointed by the Chinese State Council with the designation decree signed by Premier Li Keqiang on 30 May 2022 and took office on 1 July 2022."
So what is your point? That it's good for HK to have fewer freedoms?
Hong Kong was simply amazing but its really sad for whats ahead if the mainland takes over and changes everything that makes it fabulous. The mainland China is seriously sad and things economically are not getting better so the future is not looking great. Such a sad situation for the locals if the mainland has its way.
China is not looking better? Probably if you are live under a stone.
divide the borders between Hong Kong and mainland
Mainland China is slowly rebounding after ending Covid restrictions. I don’t see what China has to gain by “making things worse in Hong Kong.” It doesn’t make Beijing richer, nor does it make the Chinese army stronger.
Wow so many things not touched upon. 1) During the nearly 150yrs of British rule. Governor of Hong Kong was always crown appointed. The ppl of Hong Kong never had a say or vote. It wasn't until 1989 (8yrs before hand over) that Hong Kong had its first Chinese police commissioner. For the first 100 yrs, no ethnic Chinese was even allowed on Victory Peak (the posh neighborhood of Hong Kong). So the ppl of Hong Kong did not get the right to vote until China took over. 2) You failed to explain that the reason for all the protest in 2021 was a gruesome murder. A Hong Kong couple went to Taiwan for vacation. After an argument the boyfriend murdered his girlfriend and dismembered her body. Put the parts into several suit cases and dumped them in dumpster near the hotel. He then casually flew back to Hong Kong. Since HK did not have an extradition treaty with Taiwan, no one could arrest him under HK laws since the crime was not committed on HK soil. The CEO of Hong Kong then negotiated a extradition treaty with Taiwan. And, here is where Beijing and HK CEO screwed up. They felt well, HK did not have an extradition treaty with mainland China either. So they added that as well. That simple act was used by CIA funded NED which poured millions into HK to start the protest. Which then developed a life of its own.
I agree. Sure the 1980's and 1990's British rule was much better with so many rights but it's better that they have no rights. Look forward to seeing fewer and fewer rights for people everywhere. Glad we are on same page.
@@CCP-Agents-Spotted Haha, funny. You should go read the national security act of US compared to the Hong Kong security act and see which version is more draconian. Keep drinking the west is the good guys kool aid.
protest in 2021
O RLY!
Best explanation so far 👍🏼
The CIA connection. First show the world the evidence. Second why not arrest the US consulate in HK?
I did some interviews for a work there and I got it, but I am still thinking about my final anwer and now with this I don't know what to do 😢
People that want to leave can leave and people that want to stay can stay. There are too many people anyways so it's a win win for both sides. There are too many people in Hong Kong anyways.
Hey Uptin, it's not fair to call it China's takeover. They already had HK in 1997 after an agreement with Britain in 1984. It is fair however to say that it's a crackdown on Hong Kong's previous legal position. I live in HK so I know.
I think “Chinas takeover” is literally trying to point out how the autonomy is no longer there despite the agreement China made. Can’t trust 🇨🇳 on anything
its not even that, lets consider how the british took Hong Kong, it was basically an invasion, and it should rightfully go back to China
Well, they should not have rioted, killed and set people on fire, beat up mainland tourists as well as HK ordinary citizens who opposed their violence and anarchy
@@loneranger9376 Yes! The people of HK should bow to the overlords like you suggest! it is better to have zero rights than to fight for your rights.
He's calling it a takeover to point out how the autonomy is no longer there despite the agreement CN made in the handover. Agreements with them worth zilch.
Friggin misleading. During 1997 600k left and many came back. Hkong will be ok and no doubt about it.
Exactly. HK needs FEWER people is anything, population has gone UP by 1m since the handover
I was born and I have been living in Hong Kong for 37 years. I was experiencing all of these in first hand. It is so difficult to describe the feeling across these years. I still remember how excitedwe were, as a kid, when Hong Kong was returning to China, because we loved China, and how disappointed now. But we already choose to move on, either keep our head down on our own business （which is still not so bad）, or raise our head up to the unknown, may be worse, future. Thank you for this accurate, all rounded and in depth documentary video. Peace！
Basically you just wish Hong Kong be chaotic and separated from China, but you will be disappointed badly. You may not know what happened in 1997 when HK returned to China, many left HK, but most of them came back.
Well yeah I mean it's written in the books, 2047. I don't think it was realistic to assume it's going to hand overnight. You will find the video to be really impartial and talk about both sides.
@@uptin hongkong is not that important
@@uptinI very much enjoy your videos and am a fan of your work. However , in this video you have sunk in the quagmire that is your anti-China bias. You may not realize that your tone is very one-sided and I hope you work more on this in the future. You may have originally seeked out to be fair BUT you collapsed under your Western bias lense.
@@uptin impartial😂
@@uptin you're literally a grifter. Tell me declines in states dont happen in the US, have you been to California? How about Chicago? Two basic examples. Actually ridiculous to talk about the protest, those hooligans destroyed a great city. US is still not over the Capitol Hill insurrection and that lasted 1 day with damage no where near as bad as the month long nonsense in HK.
Omg, I see myself in your video. I'm the student sipping coffee at the Starbucks you filmed hahaha. I remember seeing you filming with a friend and some camera gear that day. A friend of mine noticed me and sent this over. I subbed!🙌🏻
Hong Kong had a great run
LoL. Of making MASSIVE amounts of money for Britain. That's definitely over.
Britain had a great run as well and going down FAST
@@Dept246 Europea too
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane 😂😂Now who will give you money Billy boy?
Thank you Uptin for summarising HK's situation in a nutshell~
Waaaaa... One discovers that a dictatorship is acting like... a dictatorship! As a French lawyer and French professor of law at the university, no one should be surprised by that move. When I witnessed the 1997 ceremony as a young law student, we discussed that between us. We all agreed that HK will (unfortunately) return quicker to Mainland China than the official 50-year schedule.
Who cares
They say “50 years”
50 years shit, not even 30 years now they trying to take us back
Please which mic do you use
But i was shocked also. Last 2 weeks i just visited HK and change a lot. Its no longer the hype it used to be, even night market used to be crowded and now its so dead, no longer shopping destinations, its different when u see the rest of China or South East Asia countries even after covid they can now hype the economy again
Because there hundred of thousands Hong Kong people go to China shopping, eating , the living costs and consumers products are 60% higher than China, they could have same thing costing 1/3 of HK money. Therefore, most Hong Kong people didn’t spend the money in Hong Kong, instead there are Half million people go over China over the weekend
Hongkong is not the place of action anymore, businesswise and touristwise. The mainland has a lot of cities that are vibrant and much more lively both in terms of business and tourism. Hongkong just don't have that attraction as much as it had in the past. Why stay or go to Hongkong when you can go straight to the mainland.
I don't think HK was ever impressive. Everyone is full of themselves and money is the sole thing they concern themselves with.
Hong Kong is not really known for night markets-that’s Taiwan. The famous HK street markets are more active in the daytime IMO, and even those are mostly tourist traps selling off-brand and counterfeit goods.
HK protestors were chanting "go back to mainland" to Chinese tourists. They also threatened people for speaking Mandarin, even if some were from Taiwan. That attitude, combined with an expensive HKD, means low demand for tourism.
pretty spot on mate. i moved to HK in 2017, lived it to the fullest and saw the decline by mid-2019, suffered through 2020 and 2021 and called it quits early 2022. good documentary, accurate and full of good info
Because you guys made a group of people who were not political people to become political and with a lot more powers than they ought to. And should... And this is the start of the whole damn thing, that is why.
@@MeiinUKbecause of what? What questions are you answering to? I didn't have a question in my post 😂😂😂😂
I am in HK right now. Change is constant. Be adaptive and have a good back up plan. Overall I am optimistic about Hong Kong, only if there is no hot war break out between US and China.
This guy is a mouthpiece for the US. If there’s a war happening , he will be partially responsible for the propaganda .
😢😢😢😢😢😢free Taiwan it will be part of China , no freedom of speech 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I admire your optimism, but I cannot see any reason for it inside myself at the momenr.
0:21 wtf is that border circle in Kazakhstan?
Lmao
No matter how many hundred thousand people left, Hong Kong is still "wall to wall" people every where. I was in Hong Kong earlier in 2024. No change. One can love or hate a place; but should report the TRUTH; not what you wish.
I so much love Hong Kong. 💕 ❤️
We got back from Hong Kong last week 👇
Excellent Uptin😊... Nobody has given a video which includes analysis of Hong Kong post protests😮😊
That's because it would expose Western fearmongering before and during the riots (they still call "peaceful protests") as nothing but lies and propaganda.
Thank you so much 😀
Lots in Cantonese, just not so much in other languages.
Another great video, thank you Uptin!
It certainly has a CNN/BBC spin to it.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
Those who thinks that commerce and politics can be separate in Hong Kong are just been foolish.
does this mean it will be easier to get hong kong residency now?
The one place that misses British rule.
LMAO no there is no place that misses British rule. Leave HK and move to London
when did we miss UK rule? These protestors was 1/7 of Hong Kong people, where the rest go? Behind the television watching the protests surrender and go to uk
Not really, locals are glad white people have been exiled
When I was growing up, I fully understood Hong Kong's role in the world. But honestly now? What's Hong Kong known for today now that China had all these other cities grow to mega size?
Unfortunately, Hong Kong these days is mostly known for “crazy infrastructure” and “used to be a colony.” It has become diluted by other Asian cities that have now grown and escaped poverty, and can exert economic and cultural influence.
The idea that Hong Kong deserves to maintain a monopoly on Asia-Pacific influence is not realistic. You can’t prevent other countries from growing out of poverty, that’s selfish.
As a resident myself: Being known for being developed earlier than everyone else was, but now losing ground (we still are the most developed city in Greater China by HDI, and that will last for at least a decade).
Yeah, Hongkong is not really as attractive as it once was as a tourist or business destination. Why go to Hongkong when you can go to the mainland where the action is.
@@samuelcheung4799 High HDI? Where? Hong Kong is the most expensive city in China, has the worst housing crisis, and the largest wealth gap. You have people living in glorified closets, people who pay rent that is x3 the average in Western cities, the hardest social ladder to overcome, and bleak opportunities for your youth. Kowloon Walled City is still in the minds of most people. Contrast that with Chinese cities and their high level of optimistic people who are being taken cared of without a homelessness issue.
Hong Kong has opulence solely from real estate and finance. Hong Kong is literally built off of foreign speculation, corruption, and parasitic institutions.
@@joshtep6784 HDI is based off of three factors: Median income, life expectancy, and average education level. In these three criteria, we in HK are still on top for now.
I’m from hk and uh yea my school life and a bunch of other stuff really changed after Covid. Not gonna complain though, I’m still alive and I didn’t have to lose any family members
Yeah we are just living normal
Intersting place, my friend went to school here, and has been back. We are all going out for Xmas and New year this 2023. Hopefully we have a nice time.
Easier to go to China from Hong Kong. Probably not easier to come back
Look at the man at 6:41, then you can feel why everything in HK is going down.
You are right. This is the result of a society prioritizing solely on monetary benefit and being "useful" to the core lol
They built their houses on bucks and sands. Can't withstand a slight breeze.
I moved out of Hong Kong, to Shenzhen. I moved because those rioters would bash HK citizens physically for having a different view. Those rioters killed freedom of speech and many other freedoms.
And it takes 15 min from Hong Kong to the 1st mainland China stop, Futian, when traveling with the high speed rail. 45min would take you to the northern border of Guangdong province
There were rioters that were part of Azov from Ukraine the neo naz1s, that says it all.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson have you been to China? China has responsible speech. Free speech means everyone fuck everyone, is that what you want?
Moved out of HK because freedom of speech was restricted but then moved into mainland China that has among the least freedom of speech? Expect nothing less from the use of See See Pee talking points
@@theguy8412 Sure there was. See See Pee media said so. And what does it say about CH1na that the countries with the worst treatment of it's people is supporting Ch1na?
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson USA is the country with the worst treatment of its people, China is the country with the most support for their government in the world. Of course no brains like you will say "they're too scared to say what they really mean!!!" Pathetic.
I went to school with an Aussie bloke who started up some well known restaurants in Hong Kong many years ago. I was hoping to visit but they're all shut now. A sign of the times ?
wait, youtube is bannend in China, but we use tictoc etc. ?
Yes TikTok also banned in China and Hong Kong. They use their own version
Great video, Uptin.
The gentleman at 9'11" says that life in HK can be its own form of "freedom" because it can be "fully 100% commerce", I don't know what to say to that, but that would be a really sad life, you can't tell me that can attract the type of people that can create dynamic societies.
I have visited for extended periods HK about 4 times, I often went when I was traveling for a month or so in parts of Asia, coming from NY, HK "made" a great stopover and adjust to the time zone. I will no longer EVER travel to HK, I would rather spend my stopover time in Tokyo, Singapore, Seoul, or Taipei. What China did to HK, is a perfect deterrence for the Taiwanese people to ever want to be closer to China.
Lmao, you'd rather stop in Singapore, a place that's even less politically tolerant than Hong Kong.
Don’t worry they won’t miss you 😜
@@canto_v12 You're joking, right? Maybe that was the case before 2018, not since.
@@slc801 Oh yes they will, they had to give away thousands of plane tickets for people to come visit. The only ones going to HK now are people from Mainland that squat and smoke all over the place.
@@EbuzzNYC I travel to NY a couple times a year and it’s now catching up to pre Covid times people are moving back and tourist are coming back so will Hong Kong .
nothing to be sad for HK, we are much safer, cleaner, happier, richer than most of the big cities in the western world
False, fake news. China ruins everything
Sure :)
So true. Hong Kong is stucked in the past. Its people continued to be colonized rather free themselves and to be themselves! They have lost their soul and identity. HK is not a shining metropolis that its used to. Its neigbor Shenzhen has taken over HK in many area not only in economic and urban planning, but in social factors and intellectual sophistication where Hong Kongers were used to look down at them. HK has losing its ground to even Southeast Asia's hub Singapore and Kuala Lumpur!
Hong Kong has seen under China takeover a purposely less attention to their economy and actually active campaign to take away from Hong Kong what it can. That’s why China built its first “open” cities for foreign investment near Hong Kong and massively built up that region.
And looking down on them? A common narrative heard in mainland China is that Chinas culture is the supreme culture and somewhat common narrative I’ve also heard and seen is Chinese people are naturally smarter than other
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson It's like calling the white supremacy narrative a "common narrative" in the us
@@sunjames3276 no, the govt in China literally promotes it. Plus I was married to a Chinese and went often to China. I heard it all. Have you not heard of the popularity of Han supremacy in the mainland? Asianometry has a nice video on that issue
@@sunjames3276 if you want a better analogy than what you have, it would be like calling “white supremacy” a common narrative among the core Trump supporter.
i've lived there for almost 12 years and it really has changed a lot
time to leave - even the british empire has
@@bobevans9996 i left 2 years ago, it went from a normal city to the chaos on the last couple of years
@@ARandomtokii: If you are an economic migrant and you're attracted to go there as well.... and then you buy and sell.... marginalising the locals... and then the other mainlanders.. who shouldn't even cross their own borders manages to cross their borders to see and do deals with the likes of you. What do you think is happening and did happen to HK then ???..... It couldn't have been a normal city. It is always about the speed of things. Shenzen speed. To keep the ROI. To keep the P&Ls. HOW ?!?!!? For a tiny 8 million city !!!! It could do so if it traded international money.. but it didn't. Cos the PRC stopped it !!!! It became an actual regional bank ! Tapping into the PRC's actual banking system !
I'm not a migrant,hk is where im born and seeing it change over the years with the goverment constantly going against the rules set in 1997 has really made this place more dangerous then before@@MeiinUK
@@ARandomtokiiwhere did you move too
Very good video, thank you for sharing!!!
One of my main reasons why I hate the mainland government is because they’re also removing Cantonese from all of Guang Dong EVEN Hong Kong, this really breaks my heart, as mainland doesn’t care about our language, so disappointing, I’ve also got a friend he’s moving to New Zealand, and out of my 10 Chinese friends, 6 of them are from Hong Kong, 2 from Taiwan and the rest are from Mainland.
Please get out of our property. And also, it’s not your language, it belongs to Guangdong Province.
No they did not, but for Hongkongers to integrate into China, they have to learn mandarin as all province in the mainland do. You csn't have a nation with its people not being able to communicate with each other. just look at all the countries with dozens or hundreds of languages, they had to have a national language - Indonesia, India, Philippines, etc.
I am a Malaysian and we all think that HK people are whiny and ridiculous.
Most overseas Chinese learn mandarin except the HK people.
We all benefited from Chinas rise .
HK people whine about the loss of use of Cantonese.
They are soooo lost.
HK people don’t migrate well as their English is really really bad.
A lot of them will end up in the restaurant business…..
In HK they have a good life but they will lose all that when they migrate.
They must migrate to find out for themselves what they are MISSING.
HK should EMBRACE China and think of how to profit as the dragon head ….think of how to suceed.
Instead , they are whiny about all sorts of complaints.
Hahahahha…..
@rap3208 ah yes as Hong konger we learn mandarin at school too. But we mostly learn Cantonese and speak cantonese
but it seems more like as the mainland developing, Mandarin is more needed, like in Guangdong, many people are actually from other Provinces and they don’t speak Cantonese..HK the same, like many HKers move to mainland, they need to learn Mandarin… so I don’t think it’s a Communist party’s thing😂
I am living in HK, actually Uptin only talked with ppl who are mostly "western minded", most ppl are quite happy here. and unemployment rate is low.....pls go check it !
But those are not the things his target audience, which is mostly westerners, wants to hear, so...
@@sl0523 But it's ot about what you want to hear or not, it's about talking facts and talking truths, period that's what should matter the most!
In other words show it like it is not like you want it to be.
Yep, there were a lot of HKers that didn't support the protestors, some even fought against those rioters. Western media just paid no attention to those people.
He very clearly stipulated that these are the people who stayed, meaning he hasn't spoken to people who are less satisfied with the situation, and have either already left or are in the process of planning to move out, but even among the ones who he interviewed, it is clear even they recognized the issues.
I would have jumped in to correct your starting line only a few years ago. Now though, I am a little more hesitant about what to tell you...😔
Anyone older and experienced enough has heard of this before. 1997 changed everything and hk will never be the same. Blah blah blah. What makes HK special is that it can adapt and does adapt time and again,, not many places can do that.
The media obviously has an agenda, always see it for yourself
Both Hong Kong and San Francisco had a great run as world class cities you'd want to visit and live in. Now it's over. Will either come back like NYC? Or will both of them start the long road towards becoming the next Detroit? There are many cities that went from hero to zero and never came back to its former glory. I think HK is doomed. As far as SF, I'm not sure but honestly not that optimistic SF. I think both cities have changed forever and not for the better.
Thanks, well put together, informative
HK is not rich. It can not compare with Shanghai.
7:23 ur video at this timestamp seems to imply that as a result of the Chinese government's effort to influence and control Hong Kong, HK's GDP has been dropping with chart comparing HK's GDP as a percent of China's GDP over the past 25 years.
The fact is the chance in the ratio from 19% to 2% is mainly due to progress within China rather than the diminishing of the HK GDP.
You could search for the GDP of China without HK for the past 25 years and plot it against HK's own GDP for the past 25 years.
I’m feeling sad because this is actual where I live and this actual right right now is night time for us but just make me sad because I already have a friend. It was my best friend my BFF and she’s moving next year to like somewhere new and I think I’m not gonna really see her, but probably see her a few times, but I’m really gonna miss her, that’s why I’m sending this message you know so that’s why I kind of feel bad for Hong Kong even though you know ages doesn’t feel right
Lots of HK people also left after the British handover but after a few years most decided to go back. Most of those who left are educated and expects same good paying jobs overseas where they moved. But reality is very different a lot will get disappointed and have to do blue collar jobs just to support their family.
At that time people saw the CCP was upholding the 50 years promise and things didn't really change. Things are different now and I don't think it will revert back.
Many of them silently return to Hong Kong from different western countries, the newly census show the population back to the levels even higher numbers than those whose left Hong Kong. This guy only see a little, interviewing those western oriented moron and jumps into conclusions
It’s only going to be downhill from here with increased control of HK from Beijing, let’s be honest here. It will not be the same as before no matter how much of an optimistic spin is made of this.
This is very true
😂yeah won't be same for USa to Stage any Disruption
Because the rest of China has grown Hong Kong is not important as it once was
After all the rioters move to England, HK will shine again.
they're trying to do the same thing in canada, and have already taken over large parts of the sf bay area.
what do you mean ? I"m in canada what is happening in the sf bay area ?
@@lesrealisationsaudet9070 same thing that is happening in vancouver and BC. chinese nationals with CCP money buying up land, getting close to politicians, and trying to infiltrate our society.
Racist talking here 🙄
@@slc801 fuck chairman xi ( ;
4:51 Turkey as well? I mean they spoke out as well against the controversial law...?
Its the same in UK, the high streets are ghost towns. Has been like this for the last 10 years less and less. Every town looks the same, even the cities are looking empty nobody goes out. Where 21:00 - 24:00 would be busy now looks like bedtime.
If a region has their own language including text language, own currency, own culture, it should be recognise as an independent country.
then india wll break apart in hundreds of pieces.
@@kimeli Do they have their own currency? Isn’t India using Rupees?
What region are you talking about? Hong Kong speaks mainly Cantonese, a dialect from Canton province of China. Hong Kong also celebrates and practices Chinese culture, such as Chinese New Year, the special dates in the Lunar calendar, and not to mention their food. They also uses the same Chinese characters in their literature too.
@@DubboU The ”Cantonese is a dialect” is because mandarin is the only official language of PRC, apart from that, Cantonese’s grammar, vocabulary, complexity has many differentiations from mandarin. Many festivals in China are also celebrating in Japan, Korea, Vietnam and even United States, Australia, Canada, United Kingdom, so are those countries also part of China?
@@lumpython5351
Sure, you can call Cantonese a language if you want. But it's still Chinese.
Is the pro-democracy movement still alive??
🙏💥💫🙏
Where did they go?
Oh that Starbuck. I think its just in front of Wan Chai District LOL I often skateboard pass there late at night.
As a true Hongkonnger and also growing up in a grass root family, the majority of us didn’t believe China government, the Chinese gov seeks HK as a place for earning money, so they didn’t care about how the people lived well on not. I strongly believe more and more HK people would leave their home town, due to many reasons, for example, political tensions, poor living conditions, and resource competition. HK would eventually lose its superiority, especially by embracing Western values with an open mind, that's the reason for its success here in the past. The crisis of faith is happening rapidly.
I'm the opposite. I grew up in the UK and I see the benefits that Hong Kong still possesses. Been here for 10 years and I have no intention of going back to the UK, which is even more unstable than HK. My kids go to international school and life in general is pretty good. 👍🏼
@@A.T.148-Scot-HK If you child can study at international school, it means that your financial condition is much better than majority of HK ppl, so you can’t turely experiences what people from the grass root about seeking for their “normal life” .One of the key points of HK success is due to people in here seeking Hong Kong as a state rather than a City. We born here, married here, contributed most of our efforts to our career in here and dead here. Majority of us didn't think about leveving here before the political change, but now on, the gate of the cage is already opened, we have more chooses for our life, instead of spending our whole life for the property.
Hong Kong was a sh1thole for hundreds of thousands old and unemployed let them leave then maybe the old unemployed and homeless can get work and proper housing.
@@ericyuen5946 the ability of grassroots people in HK to leave for more spacious and less competitive countries speaks more to HK’s economic success than it does to political struggles.
If you honestly seek a better life abroad, it’s great that you have the resources to do so. HK has been too crowded for decades, no matter who is in charge.
The idea that working class people are being oppressed by “China” does not make sense to me. China did not cause the housing shortage and China did not suddenly take away HK’s export monopoly. So I don’t view that as a practical reason to emigrate.
@@canto_v12 The housing shortage is not happening here, indeed the prices of properties are unreasonably high. The government didn’t get enough control over the local developers, and living demand is being taken advantage of by the developer as an investment, as the government also takes advantage of the high land prices. Frankly, the HK gov is actually the puppet of the Chinese gov which totally loses their ability of autonomy, particularly in policy-making toward local residents.