We call this strat the Rate Up Manipulation Supreme+/Paragon Acceleration Strat. Sorry if I sounded super tired as I recorded this super late into the night.
@@ohreally69 S ranks you only need 6 copies total for Mythic+ A ranks you needs dozens. It is much harder to get A ranks up. Most S ranks are really good with 1 copy as well. Only certain ones like Eironn are not very useful without Mythic+. Just counted you need 44 copies of an A rank to get to Mythic+ but only 6 for an S rank.
@@Hestis0 I used it and now I have Mythic+ Odie. All I spent on was the monthly thing. If you don't spend at all you don't get any epic tickets anyway so it doesn't even matter who you put there.
I knew about this when I first started. I was curious to see what would happen if I used A level units with only one Epic hero. I got Koko and got 5 copies of her. I’ll do this once I get who I need. Great video!
this video makes so much sense fro f2p players since characters like marilee is so usefull for single target dmg and pushing dream land for more rewards
I think it could also be worth it after getting some specific stuff... I'm trying to get to Mythic+ Eironn and Carolina so... they need to be in all my whislist hahahaha but nice info.
Assuming you are a spender who buys the passes, is this strat optimal if you do it at the very beginning of the game? Which S character should you try to get and to what ascension before starting this strat? I’d assume Smokey and Brutus are pretty important. Also, great video. Keep it up.
Brutus only needs 1 copy, thoran cecia hewynn and smokey should be the 4 S n the single A should b odie . Rowan at 1 copy is good enough too til u s+ the other 2 healers are better. On epic recruitment.
This is legit insane. I def want one copy of smokey and want to get mythic+ Eironn but besides those i put only A level characters. I already got legendary odie and im at day 3 so i hopefully get him to mythic+ soon.
this is actually what i did instinctively, but ive got the S's back in coz half of em are already supreme+ one more odie 5* and 1 or 2 more krugger5* and ill move on to caroline and eiowin or what ever the name is
This has to be a joke. It looks interesting initially, but after giving it some thought, its just bad. In order to get one of your 3 A-Level Heroes, you need on average 16 tickets each. Or 688 tickets to get 3 selected A-Level Heroes to Mythic+. 688 tickets are enough for roughly 41 Epic Heroes, or 8 Mythic+ Epic heroes.
So you put every A level but Odie, Marilee and Korrin in the hero choice. Then if you pull an A level before pity it will be guaranteed 1x of any of those three, right? Then before hitting pity you switch those three up and maybe add one or two S levels, so when you pull your pity you'll either get 1x S level or 5x A level, correct? Is there a way to get any of the 5 A level heroes you leave as your hero choices outside of pity/guaranteed pull? If you pull any of the three heroes you left in the 18.75% section before pity/guaranteed pull, can you get them 5x or is it only 1x?
This metod i good only for big spenders cuz u can youse Paragon heroes only in pvp.This is super bad for small spenders and mountly pack buyers cuz they need more copys of S rear type heroes
Hey Mr. Zeebo, I made another account that has Smokey just for fun and I am at afk 140 right now but I’m seeing people on records use ironwall spell. I was wondering how because you get that near the end of the dark forest storyline ,right?
No don't make that mistake I did. Kruger is good at legendary or +. Get koko higher is better and finish odie to s+. All u need kruger for is to hit the boss 4 times b4 he dies.
Domt pair odie and Kruger,it's useless,as others have mention,you put Kruger you have to put marlie as your primary dps,odie maybe for secondary but he won't benefit from Kruger physical def shred.
I would do odie then koko and marilee last. Because marilee is only good for bosses while the other 2 can b used everywhere. The other 2 mythic+ is amazing.
@@LongHoang88884 afk 700+ rn, agreed on your points. Odie first, Koko imo players can still get away with low ascendant , currently using a purple/ orange koko and its fine.
It shouldn't matter because epic recruitment will only take into consideration the heroes that you have on your wishlist, so that's 8 possible A-tier characters (that's if you have 5 S-tier on epic recruitment of course).
what about a mix of both? as a f2p could i remove someone like temesia or eiroon to put odie and merilee? that way i still get cecia, thoran and smokey, but can get copies of those 2 As?
IMO this is just bricking your account, even for spenders. Even with this strat it takes a while to max out those A ranks, by the time most players max them out we will have new rate up banners that will likely just blast these a ranks out of meta. Theyre all dps too and we know how those get powercrept first.
Only problem with this strat is how limited you are in number of pulls. After a certain point progressing it is very slow because you can’t farm the tickets reliably.
Sorry, just to clarify. If I want to get more Odie copies, I should leave him in the A tier pool (18%) rather than shifting him up to S tier pool (5%), right?
If you wanted max copies you would leave him in the a-tier pool, then on pity pulls (reaching 1 pull until guaranteed s-tier) you could switch him to the s-tier priority (you'd rearrange the entire list to get an s or a tier you want)
@@bachnguyenhoai4050 correct, in a pool he gets 1 copy, s pool 5 copies, but you can switch them depending on the guaranteed pity to take advantage of it.
yeah thats what i didn't understand, do we make it so that at pity we can get 5 copies of an A-tier or is this for rate up on the A-tier pulls and S-tier is still what we get on pity (which makes it that it garanties you get that one S tier you left in wishlist???)
@@MrDeviancehBoth. Put them on your A-rank wishlist and move all others to S-rank for rate up on your pulls, then swap them to S-rank when your pity timer hits for 5 extra copies.
@@JoelDZSo we put everyone but Odie, Marilee and Korrin as our hero choices. Then if we get any of those three as our pull before pity they'll be 5x? And when we're about to hit pity we switch them up to our hero choice with two other S level characters and see what we get? I'm a bit confused:/
@@Westblader No. During your pulls, Odie Marilee and Korin will be guaranteed any time you get an Elite (purple). You'll never get any other A-tier which means you can easily build them up. When you get your pity timer high, you can then move them to S-tier so that your Epic pull will also have a chance to be Odie, Marilee or Korin. You'll get 5 copies only if you pull them as an Epic (orange), not as an Elite.
So, I think it is actually better to put A list heroes on the Epic hero list, as a function of pure mathematics. If you hit any A List hero in the Epic Hero list it's technically a x5 success (you get 5 copies). If you hit something in the A Hero list, you only get one copy. So even when you hit 18.75% chance once, this is only a x1 success. From a statisical standpoint, 5.22/100 multiplied by 5 is a far better outcome than 18.75/100 multiplied by 1. In fact, it's ~50% better.
All mobile games are for whales . Where they like to beat folks wit thier wallets. Can't complain tho they keep the game alive so f2p can play for free.
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We call this strat the Rate Up Manipulation Supreme+/Paragon Acceleration Strat.
Sorry if I sounded super tired as I recorded this super late into the night.
I found it pulling myself and now is exposed to the world
one of the points of good gatcha - useful A-level char
Nice work condensing all that info into a video!
This strat is amazing thanks for letting us know! I think many of the A ranks are much more impactful than the S ranks.
Especially for f2p when getting their dupes is much easier....and most of my characters are 4* with dupes all my 5* with no dupes are kinda useless
@@ohreally69 S ranks you only need 6 copies total for Mythic+ A ranks you needs dozens. It is much harder to get A ranks up. Most S ranks are really good with 1 copy as well. Only certain ones like Eironn are not very useful without Mythic+. Just counted you need 44 copies of an A rank to get to Mythic+ but only 6 for an S rank.
@@quickpawmaud isnt this strat mainly for spender people ?
@@Hestis0 I used it and now I have Mythic+ Odie. All I spent on was the monthly thing. If you don't spend at all you don't get any epic tickets anyway so it doesn't even matter who you put there.
@@quickpawmaud dam.
Oh wow! That’s super crazy! I’ll be bearing this in mind when I wanna push my A level units!
It's also more suitable for f2p players that only focus on dream boss content as u can rush the main 3 dps early than others
LOL I had shared my roster on discord and I had 3 A-Rank heros init and I was mad fun of hard. Thx for posting this ! I like your cooking !!
I missed your clips. Thanks for the insight yet again! Have a great day! 😊
I knew about this when I first started. I was curious to see what would happen if I used A level units with only one Epic hero. I got Koko and got 5 copies of her. I’ll do this once I get who I need. Great video!
If you hit pity does it guaranteed the s hero unit or does it only dupes the a level heros?
This is how I got my thoran day one...
this video makes so much sense fro f2p players since characters like marilee is so usefull for single target dmg and pushing dream land for more rewards
I would go odie first he's good everywhere. M+ execute is really op. Killing tanks at 1/3 hp after poisoned.
@@LongHoang88884 agreed. It even cheeses Brutus inuln if you get odie ult off before it's activated
I think it could also be worth it after getting some specific stuff...
I'm trying to get to Mythic+ Eironn and Carolina so... they need to be in all my whislist hahahaha but nice info.
Assuming you are a spender who buys the passes, is this strat optimal if you do it at the very beginning of the game? Which S character should you try to get and to what ascension before starting this strat? I’d assume Smokey and Brutus are pretty important. Also, great video. Keep it up.
Brutus only needs 1 copy, thoran cecia hewynn and smokey should be the 4 S n the single A should b odie . Rowan at 1 copy is good enough too til u s+ the other 2 healers are better. On epic recruitment.
Gonna remember this down the line once I am in a position to roll for this stuff.
This is legit insane. I def want one copy of smokey and want to get mythic+ Eironn but besides those i put only A level characters. I already got legendary odie and im at day 3 so i hopefully get him to mythic+ soon.
this is just a strat for people going into the game planning to buy 80% of the shop
I actually left a comment in one of ur videos few days ago asking about this being a possibility xD
great tips!
this is actually what i did instinctively, but ive got the S's back in coz half of em are already supreme+ one more odie 5* and 1 or 2 more krugger5* and ill move on to caroline and eiowin or what ever the name is
tried this strat on the very first pull 30/30 pulled 5x silvina bruh moment
I do it before and my oddie get to supreme pretty fast tho since the rates for elite tier heroes kinda higher than epics in this banner
Idk why I watch these videos. I’m a whale and already over 10 supreme+ but I enjoy watching them.
if you dont mind me asking, how much do you spend and how can you afford it?
I did that get my oddie to mystic if you leave in oddie with S tier you get oddie a lot
This has to be a joke. It looks interesting initially, but after giving it some thought, its just bad.
In order to get one of your 3 A-Level Heroes, you need on average 16 tickets each. Or 688 tickets to get 3 selected A-Level Heroes to Mythic+.
688 tickets are enough for roughly 41 Epic Heroes, or 8 Mythic+ Epic heroes.
thought Something new ... but real foxes already know this min max method 😅
do you guys have a discord or something where you discuss this kind of things? this was really interesting
Can you do a exclusive equipment priority list/tier list ? Tidal Essence is quite the scarce resource.
Great vid : ]
So you put every A level but Odie, Marilee and Korrin in the hero choice. Then if you pull an A level before pity it will be guaranteed 1x of any of those three, right? Then before hitting pity you switch those three up and maybe add one or two S levels, so when you pull your pity you'll either get 1x S level or 5x A level, correct?
Is there a way to get any of the 5 A level heroes you leave as your hero choices outside of pity/guaranteed pull? If you pull any of the three heroes you left in the 18.75% section before pity/guaranteed pull, can you get them 5x or is it only 1x?
Thanks
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This metod i good only for big spenders cuz u can youse Paragon heroes only in pvp.This is super bad for small spenders and mountly pack buyers cuz they need more copys of S rear type heroes
Hey Mr. Zeebo, I made another account that has Smokey just for fun and I am at afk 140 right now but I’m seeing people on records use ironwall spell. I was wondering how because you get that near the end of the dark forest storyline ,right?
They bought it
I wish I saw this video before I just pulled 130 times on epic banner T_T
open up that wallet my boy
sad it's not f2p / low spender friendly
i've got odie paragon,should Iparagon +? Should I go to marille on the shop or focus on get odie paragon +?
bro, is it better to get kruger first to mythic+ for his ex than focus on koko after? My odie already had his ex unlocked
No don't make that mistake I did. Kruger is good at legendary or +. Get koko higher is better and finish odie to s+. All u need kruger for is to hit the boss 4 times b4 he dies.
@@LongHoang88884 oh damn, thanks for pointing it out
@isbalancerice8864 also odie does magic damage sadly. So kruger works for cecia n thoran just found out the other day.
@@LongHoang88884 bro, i might wanna add your ign for questions
Domt pair odie and Kruger,it's useless,as others have mention,you put Kruger you have to put marlie as your primary dps,odie maybe for secondary but he won't benefit from Kruger physical def shred.
Odie and Marilee is urgent urgent urgently needed for performing
I would do odie then koko and marilee last. Because marilee is only good for bosses while the other 2 can b used everywhere. The other 2 mythic+ is amazing.
@@LongHoang88884 afk 700+ rn, agreed on your points. Odie first, Koko imo players can still get away with low ascendant , currently using a purple/ orange koko and its fine.
is it worth to do that to get odie marilee and korin and mythic plus and then go back to S rank units?
Is this strat "patched" right now? They have introduced more A level characters to the pool,
It shouldn't matter because epic recruitment will only take into consideration the heroes that you have on your wishlist, so that's 8 possible A-tier characters (that's if you have 5 S-tier on epic recruitment of course).
what about a mix of both? as a f2p could i remove someone like temesia or eiroon to put odie and merilee? that way i still get cecia, thoran and smokey, but can get copies of those 2 As?
Only do 1 A at a time Odie first then koko marilee last. Other 4 should b smokey thoran cecia hewynn until u max em. For epic recruitment.
IMO this is just bricking your account, even for spenders. Even with this strat it takes a while to max out those A ranks, by the time most players max them out we will have new rate up banners that will likely just blast these a ranks out of meta. Theyre all dps too and we know how those get powercrept first.
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are there any good team comps with eiron that has ex weapon?
Ardan is huge for it. Just bonkers strong.
Ardan and carolina are great
so you are telling me that if i put odie in the list and i pull him, i get 5 copies!?!, imma put him in asap if thats the case
Only if you pull him as your pity epic, not if you pull him as an A-rank
Ofcourse the moment i try this i got 2 epics in one 10pull at 30 pity... didnt even get koko...
try at your own risk
Only problem with this strat is how limited you are in number of pulls. After a certain point progressing it is very slow because you can’t farm the tickets reliably.
Zeebo i have 21k gems should i try and use it to pull or should i just save it?
Just pull for progress
Sorry, just to clarify. If I want to get more Odie copies, I should leave him in the A tier pool (18%) rather than shifting him up to S tier pool (5%), right?
Yep
If you wanted max copies you would leave him in the a-tier pool, then on pity pulls (reaching 1 pull until guaranteed s-tier) you could switch him to the s-tier priority (you'd rearrange the entire list to get an s or a tier you want)
@@w4tsup so if he is in A pool, I got only 1 copy but if he is in S pool, I will get 5 copies for him, right?
@@bachnguyenhoai4050 correct, in a pool he gets 1 copy, s pool 5 copies, but you can switch them depending on the guaranteed pity to take advantage of it.
first
If I already have Odie at Legendary and I pull an Epic one instead of Elite with this trick, do I get 5 ascension copies or just 1?
yeah thats what i didn't understand, do we make it so that at pity we can get 5 copies of an A-tier or is this for rate up on the A-tier pulls and S-tier is still what we get on pity (which makes it that it garanties you get that one S tier you left in wishlist???)
@@MrDeviancehBoth. Put them on your A-rank wishlist and move all others to S-rank for rate up on your pulls, then swap them to S-rank when your pity timer hits for 5 extra copies.
@@JoelDZSo we put everyone but Odie, Marilee and Korrin as our hero choices. Then if we get any of those three as our pull before pity they'll be 5x? And when we're about to hit pity we switch them up to our hero choice with two other S level characters and see what we get? I'm a bit confused:/
@@Westblader No. During your pulls, Odie Marilee and Korin will be guaranteed any time you get an Elite (purple). You'll never get any other A-tier which means you can easily build them up. When you get your pity timer high, you can then move them to S-tier so that your Epic pull will also have a chance to be Odie, Marilee or Korin. You'll get 5 copies only if you pull them as an Epic (orange), not as an Elite.
@@JoelDZ I understand, thanks! Do you think this is worth it for a f2p account or not really?
but what if i get an early copie of them and i got 5copies of damian man :(
Gotta manipulate the rate up a bit but cant factor out that RNG factor. But nonetheless Damien is imba late game :)
oh, so free to play people cant really do this strategy, huh ? dammmm. well i feel less bad after using all my epic invite summons now.
u could but your epic letter is more scarce.
This is great for whales
So, I think it is actually better to put A list heroes on the Epic hero list, as a function of pure mathematics.
If you hit any A List hero in the Epic Hero list it's technically a x5 success (you get 5 copies).
If you hit something in the A Hero list, you only get one copy. So even when you hit 18.75% chance once, this is only a x1 success.
From a statisical standpoint, 5.22/100 multiplied by 5 is a far better outcome than 18.75/100 multiplied by 1.
In fact, it's ~50% better.
Are you a malaysian?
No
@@Zeeebo Singaporean?
No need to rush bro the game won’t end anytime soon
Yup, this is really a game for whales
All mobile games are for whales . Where they like to beat folks wit thier wallets. Can't complain tho they keep the game alive so f2p can play for free.