Morgan McClure Motorsports - The Rise & Fall
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- If you grew up watching NASCAR in the late 1980's, 1990's, or even the early 2000's, there's a good chance that the Kodak #4 has a special place in your NASCAR heart, but what ever became of the once great team running this #4 car? Here is the story of the rise and sad fall of Morgan-McClure Motorsports.
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So what were your thoughts of the rise and fall of this team? It was really sad to see them fade away in the 2000's, virtually incapable of being a competitive racing organization again.
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Don’t you hate it when you work on a project for a while, only to realize you made a pretty embarrassing mistake?
Ernie Irvan actually won them their first Daytona 500, in 1991. Not Sterling Marlin. I guess Marlin’s 500’s are more memorable though.
DannyBTalks don’t sweat it man, I believed it until you corrected yourself lol
No worries. We've all done it at least once. Even I've done it. It's ok. It's a reminder that despite our channels, we are human & we make & admit to mistakes... :)
Forrest Robbins Michael Waltrip Racing was already covered early on, and I also have done Red Horse Racing. Feel free to enjoy those on the channel.
u should do a video on sterling marlin. u do a great job on your videos and I think it would be awesome to show some respect to a legend. especially what hes gone through in recent years. keep up the good work bro
I got cool hat with that car of Ernie Irvan that won Daytona 500. I was pretty confused haha Cool video! Keep it up
I always thought Morgan McClure was the full name of just one guy. Never realized it was a partnership.
S1apSh0es I did for the longest time as well, until I read in to it. So don’t feel bad.
@@DannyBTalks Good video, yeah Mike Wallace drove for them a year in 04...had a really cool paint scheme with that Lucas Oil car if you guys remember. Eric McClure also drove for FRM a few times here and there back in the day with the Hefty sponsorship.
S1apSh0es Honestly, the only way I might have ever known different was my Grandma bought me a pack of like the old Winner’s Circle or Maxx cards that had a pack with a card for the 4 team as a whole with all their 1993 results. On the left hand side of the back, it listed about 5 different McClures and Tim Morgan as the owners.
Tim Morgan and about 4 McClure bros. to be exact
henry robinson sounds right. I haven’t likely seen that card in 16 years and would have no idea where it is.
I’ll never forget the sound that car made at Daytona with Sterling Marlin driving. It sounded like an Indy car, awesome.
I think Mark Giles fab that car. He did a Camaro like that also...sounded bad ass.
I was at that 1998 Martinsville race, the second race I had ever attended. Bobby Hamilton absolutely spanked the field that day. I never realized that was Morgan McClures last win, glad I was there to see it
Danny decpite the mishap with forgetting the 1991 Ernie Irvan, Daytona 500. This was one of my favorite watches in this series. Thank you
It's simple, I see a DannyB Video, I like it.
The Kodak car is the most beautiful race car ever. And when they rigged it to sound like a F1 car, it was the most awesome NASCAR car ever.
I agree. I used to always watch for the race coverage to focus on that car. Loved to hear it in single car qualifying.
That was only one of their cars I believe. The one used on all cup plate races in 1995-96 (besides the 1996 Busch Clash which was another car)
A friend of mine helped fab that exhaust up with tony Glover spearheading the idea. He worked for them til the end of the 2001 season as a fabricator and a road crew member Now he owns a body shop and as a side business he builds a carbon copy of the chassis the Irvin won Sonoma with and with the same setup and fits classic muscle car bodies. Really cool to see in person and cool to see his daytona 500 rings and hear his stories
Heres the info on the Dr. Gas boom tube exhaust used for Marlin's car: www.insideracingtechnology.com/drgas.html
Wait... what??
I remember our first time visiting Bristol in August of 2004 and we visited the Morgan-McClure shop/musuem just off i81 in Abingdon VA (30ish min from Bristol).
I did a randomizer on Racing-Reference on a random day a couple weeks back & the 1998 Goody's 500 Bobby Hamilton Sr. won in the #4 came up.
The race was a tad curious with Ted Musgrave finishing 2nd & Randy LaJoie finishing 5th... That was until you dig deeper & realize that Bobby Hamilton Sr.'s closest competition on that dominant day was actually John Andretti. It would have been a close duel between the 2 at the end except Andretti's car ran out of fuel in the closing laps. Sure enough John got the win the following year in the same race.
... That particular randomizer was done just shortly after losing John, & the coincidences between him & Bobby Sr. regarding their fates in the end really got to me. 💔🙏
Not only that, who did John replace for that second stint in the iconic 43 for the 1998 season? One Bobby Hamilton Sr. Who by the way took over the 43 for 1995 season from you guessed it, John Andretti. John replaced Wally Dallenbach during the 1994 season after faulty radios caused a major rift between Dallenbach and longtime Petty crew chief Robbie Loomis.
@@atlfan48 I actually didn't know Andretti had a stint in the 43 before Hamilton... Very interesting irony to know...
Please do The Rise & Fall of Evernham Motorsports
@TheJackhammer92 I'm talking about prior to the merger
Well I could tell you this, I worked for Morgan McClure in 1991 full-time through 1999 and part-time throughout the 2009 season. Yes they were and I kind of team and I know every one of them personally. We tried in 2008 to qualify for Dover it was a put together team and I was living in Baltimore at the time Jerry McClure called me and want me to drive the transporter to Dover. I packed my bags drove 7 hours to Abingdon Virginia enjoy the holler straight back up to Dover they had a packed and ready. We failed to qualify for Dover due to complications but we made the effort. I want to thank you for recognizing that team cuz nobody else does and we were a good team threw it in the 90s.
Y’all are in my opinion one of the most iconic teams in the sport’s history. Just a shame the 2000’s were so rough.
@@DannyBTalks yeah I know the McClure's for years, I was lucky to start with a team in 91 and we had our Good Times but when everything happened in the late 90s and the early 2000s really what the hell I still work for him part-time they still had the doors open at the shop off Enterprise Drive in Abington, I came down from Baltimore when I could. and it wouldn't just to Legal battles with Larry McClure they had a guy working for him that was supposed to go out and look for sponsorship and really rip them off a lot of money. my last race I work was Talladega when Eric was trying to qualify.
@@DannyBTalks hey Danny thank you for your come back, it's good to know somebody really appreciates that team like I have throughout the years.
@@DannyBTalks I want to thank you Danny your Insight on the team and interest, it was a pleasure working for them when I did. You have a great day and thank you
Do you remember Bo Ball?
I was sad to see this team go away. Darrell Waltrip said it best in an interview when he ran his own team that something happened in the late 90s that you could have a 3 million dollar sponsor and run the full season competitively then in 1998 you need a 6to8 million dollar sponsor that was the main reason he shut his team down. I think this is what happened to Morgan McClure Motorsports Kodak wasn't able to increase their sponsorship money like some of the bigger team were getting at the time. Kodak as a company was struggling the following years they just ran poorly and when Kodak left they could not attract any major sponsorships. I like to see a rise and fall on 2004 Arnold Motorsports I always thought that was kind of unique story underdog team
And nowadays you need more than 2-3 sponsors just to make it through the entire season
Yeah Arnold
They ran good with Cope in early 04 but couldnt get a major sponsor
Do you think as the amount of sponsorship to be competitive increased, legacy companies for smaller teams like Kodak or STP couldn't fund the teams to the right level? Was it more to do with battling multicar teams?
@@phelpsmarc yeah i remember back in 2004 I remember watching speed TV and seeing derrike cope qualify on the pole for good portion of the afternoon it was awesome to see the crowd go crazy. Then a few weeks after he was released from the team never understood that.
@@mod134 think its was both money and bigger teams petty and Morgan i believe built there only engines. When power teams started building there own equipment small teams were gone. Roush racing is kind of in the same predicament right now declining performance last few years hopefully Ryan Newman can help change it
When I think of the #4 Kodak car, i think of Irvan. When I think of Sterling Marlin, I think of the Coors #40 or the Sunoco #94.
First thing they let Tony Glover go they should have not done that they should have let Tony Glover stay with the Mortimer core team second reason that Sterling light with Colour you like Tony Glover he should have kept Tony Glover
Dont forget sterlin in the 22
When i think of The Kodak #4 Chevy i think of Bobby Hamilton when i think about Ernie Irvan i think of the #36 Skittles Pontiac and when i think of Sterling Marlin i think of the #40 Coors Light Dodge
Would love to see a video on the very underrated bobby hamilton and his winning legacy as a driver and owner. He is definately underrated.
Enjoyed a lot !! Also prayers for you guys out there man with that terrible tornado brother thoughts and prayers your way !!
Always loved the number #4 car the Kodak paint scheme and when my driver Kevin Harvick ended up with the number #4 it was like a dream come true for me even though it wasn't Morgan McClure it was still the number #4 don't ask me why I don't even have a clue but I've always been drawn to the number #4. That was a great story thank you so very much and keep up the great work that you're doing. Go #4 Team.
If the Chase would be exist that time
Morgan McClure would qualifying to the Chase For The Cup in the years 1994-1996 and 1998-1999
I remember the Runt Pittman motors in Sterling Marlins Daytona 500 winning cars. They sounded like an Indy car.
Runt pitman built some of the strongest restrictor plate engines we will ever see in nascsr
Yeah, I'm not sure this video does justice to just how strong they were on plate tracks for those few years in the mid 90s. They definitely had something special, much like DEI would a decade later.
@@UnderPressure04 I dont do it much justice at all..morgan McClure had as bad of a car against the completion at daytona an talledega as anybody post restrictor plate and probly second only to the Elliotts period.i live about 10 min from their race shop an it's so sad nascar let esentaly 4 teams run the whole show an jus said fuck the small teams .that's why nascar sucks today
Things I never knew with 1:13 in. BK, Folgers being sponsors for the 4 team.
T.G. Shepherd, the country music singer was tied in to the Folgers deal too. (Not on the Hendrick/Richmond 25)
Go back and look at the car and you'll see his name above "Folgers "
I joined their fan club and had a hat with that on it.
It was referred to the TG Shepherd Folgers Chevrolet.
This team used to be a force.it was sad to see this team drift into a back of the pack team
The new 1995 Monte Carlo bodies sure did help them win at the Super Speedways in 95 and 96 when those cars were the best cars to have with the slick, curved bodies those cars had compared to the Thunderbird and Grand Prix of the time.
This is my home town team. The reason they always ran at Bristol is it’s their hometown track. I drive by their empty race shop every day.
Good Vídeo Video suggestion The Rise & Fall of Evernham Motorsports
And they became RPM
Ok
The fall of Evernham was Erin Crocker.🦴🍆
I miss that yellow #4 car really i remember when i was a little kid like 3-5 years old my favorite color was yellow and i started watching Nascar and so i would pick my favorite driver out of the color of their car so first yellow car i saw was that Morgan Mcclure #4 Kodak Chevy and it was Bobby Hamilton who was driving it. When Nascar goes to Darlington with the throwback schemes Kevin Harvick should drive a throwback to that car
Thanks for the video... Brings back memories of Sterling Marlin whooping ass at Daytona and Talladega... Robert Yates Racing would be a good one too... Thanks again...
Found this video through the "suggested" feature. I absolutely loved it. I don't watch NASCAR anymore, but loved it from the mid 90s through mid 2000s and this was right down my alley. I've subscribed, followed you on twitter, and shared this on twitter. VERY excited to see more of your videos!
They were a dominant superspeedway team from the early to mid 90's. The butterscotch paint scheme of the #4 car is so iconic to Nascar. In 2015 at Darlington, Kevin Harvick had a throwback paint scheme that looked similar to the iconic Kodak paint scheme.
Mark Martin has a podcast and he discussed his short stint with Morgan McClure. They were a new team and the crew chief at the time didn't like him and was old school and wouldn't try anything, said the cars were slow pigs however he did say the speedway cars were pretty good. After the season they didn't call him and he didn't call them.
Great video. I didn't know the info in the first 1:30. I think the rising cost of nascar caught up with a lot of teams and especially those with long term sponsors not paying more to keep up with those cost. Like bill Elliott , ricky rudd.
I was going to say the same thing John. The rising costs hurt these guys. You can likely lump Petty Enterprise in there too. Maybe.
The family car dealership you mentioned is in my town and like you mentioned during your video about 5 drivers you forgot about eric mclure is from chillhowie which is about sn hour or so from where i live pretty cool
Coeburn
@@happyfeelmore4999 yes sir
You should do a series called the rise and fall of infamous teams
I've got a ton of 4 car stuff also. Really liked that team.
As part of the downfall, 2003 was the last year with Kodak on the car. In the middle part of that year, I guess to hopefully have a better chance of getting in the race, they added a second car in the #04. The #04 was Kodak-sponsored and painted identically. They entered it 4 times. it made Watkins Glen then DNQ, withdrawn, and DNQ. (Both DNQs were by a young David Reutimann). The Kodak would move to Penske in 2004 to be on the #77 they had just purchased from Doug Bawel and Jasper Engines.
They then, in an 11th hour move signed up something called YokeTV.com to sponsor the team and Kevin Lepage for the year with options for more, according to an article still available on Motorsport.com. From what I can gather, YokeTV was a very early internet-based TV “channel”, about a decade before Netflix, Hulu and Amazon would make original programming a thing.
However, it would only be on the car for first three races: Daytona, Rockingham and Vegas. Come race #4 at Atlanta, the car would show up with the YokeTV logos missing. Jayski’s team chart from 2004 says that the logos were removed over “contractual differences”. Though they were able later to piece some partial sponsorship and limp around for a couple more years, the team was never able to recover.
Ok boomer
Andrew Moore 2 12 22 Lol... I was born in 84. Just remember a whole bunch of useless stuff.
But... if Danny had to leave anything on the cutting room floor, this would be it.
Kodak was also sometimes on Rustys 2 and Newmans 12.
Morgan McClure still has a dealership in Coeburn Va.
and castlewood va
And St. Paul
Yup, we got to know them through racing at Lonesome Pine Raceway over the years. They were always involved in some way with the speedway since it's where Eric raced a lot when he was younger. Always sponsored and supported that track.
@@dwoodward931 i remember Kelly Mullins running the #4 chevelle,but eric was a fat little kid then, they did sponser some races ,
YAY!! Another Rise and Fall video!!!
Morgan-McClure Motorsports will always have a soft spot in my heart. Here in the Tri Cities TN/VA, they were referred to as "The Home Team" by local media. The roots of the team originated from G.C. Spencer's team in Johnson City, TN, Tony Glover was from nearby Kingsport, TN., they had a few local drivers (Connie Saylor, Johnny Miller), a couple with Tennessee roots (Sterling Marlin, Bobby Hamilton), and local sponsorship (my hometown Oldsmobile dealership, Bewley Olds in Greeneville sponsored them at Bristol in '86. Mr. Bewley now owns the City Garage Car Museum, and has a former Kodak Monte Carlo and Morgan McClure exhibit. For years Eastman Chemicals in Kingsport was Eastman-Kodak). Their shops were off I-81 South, and they had a tall sign towering over the interstate.
I remember how sad I felt when Dad and I went to the Bristol race in 2004. Their souvenir trailer was mostly selling Mickey Mouse and cartoon character t-shirts. We got to participate in the track walk, and we stopped by where they were doing pre-race inspections. The MMM team were in T-shirts, a far cry from the Kodak uniforms in the past. They struggled greatly that season and never recovered.
There were rumors of them adding a second full-time team in the late-90's/early-2000's. IMHO I don't think this would have saved them, as they never recovered when Kodak pulled the plug. I'll always remember "The Home Team".
👍👍GREAT episode! Keep 'em coming!!!
Me and my best friend went to Bristol one year. Ernie Irvan was practicing in the #4 KODAK Lumina, well Ernie blew the engine and he was pissed. We watched the KODAK crew replace that engine in 45 minutes! It was incredible. 🙂
I don't know about McClure as it sounds he has troubles but Morgan is what Nascar is lacking now.He is a cool guy and admits if he did things different like field a second car and lease engines instead of having his own engine program he probably would still be in Nascar.
Gotta say that the cars then just looked like Race cars for some reason, I remember the 4 car was always competitive especially with Ernie. Sure reminds me that many years have passed, seems like yesterday but maybe I've just been around a while to.
Great nostalgic video you put together!
I love your channel thank you have an excellent day thumbs up stay awesome race fans.
I met the crew in Michigan 1989 what agreat bunch if guys! one guy gave me his pass I got in the garage.runt pitman boy he was some thing what a great bunch of guys!
The teams first Daytona 500 was with Ernie Irvan in in 1991, Marlin gave then they're second and third Daytona 500 win. Phil Parsons was fired because he didn't tell the team he was blind in one eye and wrecked to many cars.
I knew Parsons drove, but didn't know why he was let go. Thanks for the info!
Damn. I didn't know that either.
@@gaffneyrailroading1982 Me either
Ward Burton was also with McClure motorsports at one point.
Yeah but Ward sucked
I loved that team. I was totally hyped when Mike Skinner and Pontiac were ready. They were good but just not good enough.
Morgan McClure IMO was always a mid-pack team bolstered by great driver choices from Irvan to Marlin to Hamilton. At the turn of the century the sport became overrun by multi car teams and MMM sadly failed to adapt to these changes
MMM in their day were very strong. I volunteered to work with Kerry Teague at the 1995 Daytona 500 qualifiers. Kerry and Co. leased an engine from MMM. It had plenty of power that we could not use because of an ill handling car. BTW, MMM won that Daytona 500 with Sterling Marlin. Much respect to Morgan McClure Racing.
In the 90s this team was a force especially at Daytona and Talladega.
Enjoyed the video. My Wife's family, Used Car Dealers, would always have something with this Team when they came to Darlington. Ironic that I found this video today as we just had the funeral for one of the Cousins that was involved with this. Also, the Company I work for had a short sponsorship with them. Our State Water Heater car was pictured in the video. Again, enjoyed the video.
I always wonder what would have happened if Rick Wilson had beat Bill Elliott at the 1988 Firecracker 400. If you haven't seen the finish, check it on TH-cam. I wonder if he had won if that would have led to more wins, and if he would have been their driver longer than he was. I also think they held onto Kodak too long as a sponsor. Kodak was starting to go down as a company in the early 2000s, so you wonder if they didn't look into a different sponsor because of being loyal to them.
MMM got very close to securing sponsorship from Microsoft for a second team in 1996 or so. Microsoft backed out late in the negotiations and MMM never secured sponsorship for a second team. Kodak was in decline and couldn’t pay as much as some of the newer sponsors coming into the sport. Money buys speed.
Without question, I select that Firecracker 400 as the most underrated "best overall race" in NASCAR, most especially the finish.
I had always loved the sponsor, paint scheme, and Rick Wilson as the driver. I know he did not experience the success quantitatively other drivers did, but I thought he fit the team best.
I appreciate this video. I had no idea of the history of the team, nor any idea what happened to them in the mid 2000's. Thank you for informing me about my first avorite race team.
P.S. No doubt, too, that Oldsmobile, had the best looking body. A story within a story exists here: how manufacturers leaving the sport changed it. Note MMM moved to Chevy for money, essentially. Also, if I recall correctly in the '88 Firecracker 400, Wilson followed Elliot for arguably half the race because the Olds drafted best with the Ford.
If he had passed Elliot and put him a lap down, would have been over. llustrates how the
Great video bud. Subbed and liked!
Regards from the UK 🍀
Blacktooth Fox appreciate the support. Glad to see some fans from outside of the US.
Nice to see one of my ideas finally getting used. Here’s some more ideas
Petty Enterprises
Darrell Waltrip Motorsports
AK Racing
Robert Yates Racing
Junie Donlevy Racing
Junior Johnson Motorsports
Stavola Brothers Racingr
irongoatrocky Yeah those teams as well.
@@irongoatrocky2343 Also
Bud Moore
Everham(Pre Partnership with Petty)
PPI Motorsports
i love all these nascar related "short documentaries" thats come out in the last year or so.. is there a way to find all the channels that do them.
Aside from me, I would suggest looking in to S1apSh0es, NASCARman, and Brock Beard.
I live in Bristol TN and I see the old Kodak truck running around town.
Rise and Fall: Turner Scott Motorsports?
Eqvnt yes I remember how they were a mainstay around the xfinity series and wondered where they went
A interesting video always wondered what happened to this race team I remember driving by their shop one time and seeing a couple of cars sitting outside of the shop along with the truck that hauled the cars This is when their shop was off I-81 there near the Virginia Tennessee line I believe over the next few years we are going to see more race teams go away
i know for a damn fact why they failed, i worked at the dealership in castlewood va. where a lot of crew members also worked. i was told by a leading crew member they were the lowest paying team on the circuit. you get what you pay for,,ask larry
If you are in NASCAR way you don’t get to stay, I would say that Nascar would love teams like this in the series, Nascar is perfect at messing things up.
Awesome video
I have a Sterling Marlin 4 diecast somewhere, and an Ernie Irvan one has been long since sold
Can you do Rise and fall of Evernham Motorsports or Darrell Waltrip Motorsports?
To hold you over, there is a video somewhere on the Tube that touches DW's personal race team. I don't remember who did it though. Could have been Iceberg, NRF, or BLM. (If I find it again, I'll link it here)
@@jamesdb7115 Thanks
Darrell's freely admitted that he ran the team thinking like a driver and not as an owner would.
Turner Scott Motorsports
I remember that team.I remember F1 reject Nelson Piquet jr won 2 then NASCAR Nationwide Series races in the #30 Chevrolet Impala/Chevrolet Camaro in 2012-2013.
I have a diecast of Bobby Hamilton’s 2000 Car
I never like yellow cars and paint schemes but the 4 Kodak was the best and only one I liked. The sponsor and logo went well with it
This is just my opinion. MM did not give Phil Parsons a fair shake. Released after 3 races??? How could Tony Glover screw him like that?? In 1988, Phil drove for Leo and Richard Jackson in the #55 Crown/Skoal Classic Olds. In 1988, Leo and Andy Petree prepared the cars for Phil while Richard and another Crew Chief prepared cars for Harry Gant. In 1988, Phil finished THIRD in the Daytona 500 to Bobby and Davey Allison. In May, at the Winston 500, he ran out if fuel early, went 2 laps down and then beat Geoff Bodine and Earnhart to win his only Winston Cup race. In July, at Daytona, he finished THIRD behind Bill Elliot and Rick Wilson. At the end of 88, Phil had 1 win and finished 8th in points and made the head table in December at the Waldorf Astoria banquet. The next year, the Jackson brothers basically switched teams. Leo and Petree went to prepare cars for Harry and Richard and his crew took over Phil's team. Go look at Phil and Harry's stats for 1988, then, look at their stats for 1989 and beyond. Completely reversed!! Harry went on to have great success while Phil fell to back of the pack. THAT AIN'T ON THE DRIVER!!! I was soooo happy when Phil finally signed with MM because I thought he would have a resurgence in his career. Again, after 3 races, even if he crashed in all 3 is NOT a measuring level for a driver. MM clearly did Phil wrong, then others spread vicious UNTRUE rumors about his eyesight. At least Phil is still contributing to the sport and hopefully his son will find success as well
My grandpa created that team and that car, in 1 of the first pictures the guy on the right was my uncle larry
I seem to recall that 4 car was right there in EVERY plate race. Runt Pittman engines, unique sound with custom headers. At Talladega with Irvin driving, he’d come off 2 in 5th and enter 3rd in first
How about Junie Donlavey Racing?
Nolan Cain is she the same as Jack & Judy Motorsports? Or am I confused?
DannyBTalks he ran his own team from 1949-2004 with the 90 car.
Nolan Cain wow. I’m not familiar with that one. Would make for a good one to read up on.
@@DannyBTalks I have a 1998 issue of Auto Week magazine which recently shut down it's print magazine with a story about the team shutting down.
They got ate up by the big teams. Consolidation of engine programs and the like kept them from keeping up. Eric McClure didn't help matters as he was not qualified to get the commitment MMM wanted to make to him. It partly drove Kodak away as they planned to put Eric in the car long term I believe and Kodak saw the writing on the wall and bailed. Sad story honestly as they were such a neat small team to follow when I was early in my fanhood.
was big fan of MMM. Loved that film. Rutt Pittman made that new sound from headers or something.
Came here for Ernie info... He got completely forgotten... shame smh...
No Harris!!! NO!!!! I honestly can’t believe I forgot the 91 500. This team won three 500’s in the same car with two guys. That’s impressive looking back.
@@DannyBTalks ya even mentioned Sterling in the intro while showing a pic of Ernie... unbelievable lolol I'll forgive you this time... everyone gets one LMFAO
Harris Lue okay, imma be honest. I recorded and edited this between 7pm-11pm last night.
@@DannyBTalks We all have our moments! I'm just ribbing you dude lolol even missing my dude Ernie it's a solid vid and your Format holds strong in all of these!! Can't wait to see more!
I still have my kodak film racing jacket and I still wear it got it at Darlington.
Weird to think that Newman could have been in the 4
Need a video MB2/Ginn Racing- Rise and Fall! @dannybtalks
Please make a rise and fall of Bill Elliott Racing!!!
The fall started when Irvan left. Outside of the superspeedways, they were not really in the discussion much after that. When Tony Glover left, the performance really dropped off and it was obvious. By that time, they weren’t even competitive on the superspeedways anymore.
No, the decline started when Glover left. Glover was the magic. Performance actually went up after Ernie left. They finished 3rd in the points with Marlin in 95 with wins at Daytona, Talladega, and Darlington. Had very strong runs and finishes at all types of tracks that year. But I will agree that Irvan was the only MMM driver to win on superspeedways, short tracks and road courses. He never won on an intermediate track in the 4 though. Ernie was probably the best overall driver MMM ever had. I think Sterling was 2nd.
Sometimes teams just fade away. It seemed that the Morgan McClure team started to fade as the multi car teams started to explode.
Many called out Bobby Hamilton and MMM for usuing traction control during the 98 Martinsville spring race and after watching that race I dont blame them either, he was unstoppable that day
He just had a fast car
Like i live near a dirt racing track that races Modifieds and me My mom and dad were watching and there was this guy called Tommy Meier had completly smoked the entire field and we were like yeah that car is illeagal then he was clean and i was in complete shock and intead then the penalty was given to the 2nd place car who was Matt Shepard for being to light
MMM's slide started at the exact time Sterling fathered an illegitimate child with a coworker at MMM and left the team and the area for good because if it 1997-1998. The results on the track in those years of decline were directly attributed to it. And it was not the headers that gave the #4 car its unique sound and power on plate tracks. It was the exhaust system after the hedders that made the magic happen. They were the 1st team to utilize the system of its style that kept the right and left bank exhaust gases equalized as traveled from the exhaust ports all the way out the pipes. Look it up!
O one oh ur best DannyB have u done a Robert Yates or Yates racing?
Justin M I have not. It’s certainly on the calendar this year.
Can you do this for Junior Johnson’s team
Hope they will come back to use 4 again (if Harvick switches new number) or 04 or 40 and or 44 again.
If Gary DeHart weren't in charge of that team in 99 (and I assume 98) they would've been doneski sooner. No clue why Larry and Tim didn't do enough to keep him around
There's just something about that nearly bus yellow number 4 - iconic! I've been living outside of Rochester, NY for the past six years. Rochester is the home to Kodak. So many people here that know nothing of NASCAR do know that number Morgan McClure number 4. There's an interesting correlation with Kodak too, they declined at about the same time. Kodak used to employ around 75,000 people. It's down to about 3,500 hundred now. I wonder if Kodak paid less in the last years of the partnership.
I think they did.not just Kodak was in decline.but Rochester was declining in the 2000s.
@@kurtperleberf6983 definitely. Rochester as a whole has suffered with the dwindling might of Kodak, Xerox, and other industrial prowess.
Not necessarily that Kodak was spending less in sponsorship dollars but NASCAR as a whole, particularly the Cup Series, was becoming more and more expensive to be able to keep up with the Joneses from a competitive standpoint by the late 90's-early 2000's and MMM was one of those teams that were left behind especially considering Kodak was declining and couldn't/wouldn't invest more dollars to keep that car competitive. It was sad to see that car/team decline the way it did and they had good drivers through the years in Swervin' Irvan, Sterling Marlin, Bobby Hamilton, even Mike Skinner but they simply were left behind money and R&D-wise
Id love to see one about the cant get right of American motorsports. Robby gordon
Sad 😢😥😓😰😭
Oh yeah boys I’m a good 2nd
When's the last time anyone bought film
Super iconic
I think they also field a 2nd car the 04 for pj Jones at some point
That car dealership happens to be one of the largest volume chevy truck dealers in virginia. They're doing fine
thought it was lame how enie wanted to bail in 93, at least finish the season and be a man of your word.
Roush Racing Inc: sure has fallen off the map big time, I remember in the 90’s & early to mid 2000’s they were very dominant with 4 cars, Mark Martin,Matt Kenseth,Kurt Busch & Greg Biffle & then the Hendrick team with 4 cars as well that dominated, it was either Roush or Hendrick winning races, now it’s Joe Gibbs & Roger Penske dominating.
I could be wrong but wasn't their first Daytona 500 win with Ernie Irvan in 1991 or 1992 over Davey Alison?
It was. I completely missed that. Guess the ones with Marlin were just too memorable to me.
I believe you state in your video that Marlin won the team's first Daytona 500 in 1994, but Irvan actually won the 500 for the team in 1991.
I’ve since corrected myself already in the pinned comment. Thank you though.
What happened to .jeff Purvis?
He never had much success in Cup cars, he was a really good Busch driver though. In 2002 he was in a wreck at Nazareth where he got T- boned by Greg Biffle, suffered major head injury. He never raced NASCAR anymore after that. I think he still races locally in Georgia
Scott Beaman thank you
Their shop was located in the Eastern Tennessee/soutg western Virginia area. Away from the talent and sports center in Charlotte. Ultimately, they could not recruit the right people and they refused to move.
They still do sumtn at shop on marion
The Rise and Fall of the hendrick busch team or the robby gordon team
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