I lived in Bassaleg and could see Alcan from my house. Used to hear all the crashing and banging going on through the night, very comforting sound that I used to fall asleep to. Brings back memories, Thanks
My father was a plant superintendent of the third largest steel in the street in the United States. And the company was called Jones and Laughlin. It's a shame what happened to that company. They did many processes at his plant at one time. They made specialtie steel. Stainless. The company was established in 1853. Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.
I went to the Newport plant on a school visit in 1984 and went to college in 1985 to start a toolmaking apprenticeship. I can still remember the apprentice training area with the Colchester lathes
Alcan, is pretty much the same set up around the world. I use to work at Alcan Oswego works in up state New York USA. Our hot line was set up almost the same way. 120" roughing mill,then a shear,then the 100" mill. That was one of the best jobs I ever had,loved going to work. The stiff-leg ingot crane. Was it a Morgan crane ?
That’s the rolling emulsion or rolling lubricant. It is used to cool the work rolls and lubricate the work roll-to-ingot contact. It is a “soluble oil emulsion” made by mixing a formulated oil with water. (Milk is also an emulsion.) The formulated oil starts with an oil (from an oil refinery) and then you add emulsifiers (that will make it form the emulsion) and lubricating additives. It can take trial and error to get the formulation to work right for a given plant and usually it’s adjusted to fine-tune each plant. And then it has to be properly taken care of to maintain performance.
ok.....well that sucks! instead of tearing it down i wonder why they just didn't mothball it if it was cost cutting. the economy will turn around. i guess it just pisses me off
Oh, yeah. They'd be looking forward to the time off. Don't have to arise at 5 am in the immediate term. Can sleep in for once. Handy severance pay and any other accrued entitlements going into their accounts. They'd all have good spreads of tickets and licenses to pick up more work, all in good time.
ok.......why? company reorganized and opened a new plant in different area? went bankrupt? cheap imports undercut the bottom line? just curious cause i hate seeing us continually lose our industrial capacity to china that doesn't have all the costly regulations and pay little to nothing in wages. where is this also? europe?
Hi, no the company did not go bankrupt, Birla group which owned the plant, is one of the oldest & biggest business families in India with diversified businesses like cement, automobile, textile, housing, finance etc. etc. They just relocated the plant to a place called Nagpur in India due to high operational costs & cheap imports. I am also from India so I know
@@saurabhjazz2132 Somehow I do not think Rodger Stone was a Indian company. www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/novelis-aluminium-mill-rogerstone-july-2010.52243/ Perhaps the people you mention bought the assets and relocated it to India to build their own plant but this isn't a Indian company. Perfect example of the West closing down industry to save a buck.
@@sw8741 No Sir, you can very clearly observe the emblem of the rising Sun of the Indian company and their name written Aditya Birla Novelis at the very beginning of the video on the top right corner of the building under the roof. The plant was set up by a Canadian company Alcan Industries, so the plant was never really British or Welsh. And the Indian company did operate the plant for quite some time before shifting due to high operational costs
@@saurabhjazz2132 The Novelis company was spun off from Canadian mining and aluminum manufacturer, Alcan Inc. and incorporated in 2005.[8] The company was acquired by India's Hindalco Industries for $6 billion in 2007.[9] The acquisition made Hindalco one of the world's top integrated aluminum players.[10] This makes Novelis a member of the Aditya Birla Group.[11] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelis Seems you do not know how mergers and acquisitions work. A company that buys another company has nothing to do with what the acquired company accomplished before. Notice when India took over the company they shut down the plant putting lots of people out of work then promptly demolished it.
@@sw8741 Good thing talking to me made you a more informed person. But by the way, when did I say Aditya Birla group acquired the pedigree and heritage of the parent company or that they built the plant, I just said they operated it before shutting down. It seems you are more furious that a so called "Non-Western" company acquired a "Western" company. Grow up, broaden your thoughts, Indians are not cunning Chinese who have this dangerous hunger to take over the world. Companies will be opened, will operate, will be acquired, will be shut, again something else will open. It's plain economics. If Hindalco acquired it with the idea of shutting down, some other company would have acquired the plant. It's not profitable to operate. That's it, stop stressing your brain or do something about the so called "Western" companies of yours to save them
I lived in Bassaleg and could see Alcan from my house. Used to hear all the crashing and banging going on through the night, very comforting sound that I used to fall asleep to. Brings back memories,
Thanks
My father was a plant superintendent of the third largest steel in the street in the United States. And the company was called Jones and Laughlin. It's a shame what happened to that company. They did many processes at his plant at one time. They made specialtie steel. Stainless. The company was established in 1853. Pittsburgh Pennsylvania.
I went to the Newport plant on a school visit in 1984 and went to college in 1985 to start a toolmaking apprenticeship. I can still remember the apprentice training area with the Colchester lathes
Alcan, is pretty much the same set up around the world. I use to work at Alcan Oswego works in up state New York USA. Our hot line was set up almost the same way. 120" roughing mill,then a shear,then the 100" mill. That was one of the best jobs I ever had,loved going to work. The stiff-leg ingot crane. Was it a Morgan crane ?
very nice.........interesting to see the process of aluminium tandem mill....
What is the use of water in minute 4: 06 And what are its components?
That’s the rolling emulsion or rolling lubricant. It is used to cool the work rolls and lubricate the work roll-to-ingot contact. It is a “soluble oil emulsion” made by mixing a formulated oil with water. (Milk is also an emulsion.) The formulated oil starts with an oil (from an oil refinery) and then you add emulsifiers (that will make it form the emulsion) and lubricating additives. It can take trial and error to get the formulation to work right for a given plant and usually it’s adjusted to fine-tune each plant. And then it has to be properly taken care of to maintain performance.
sad video. company i work for still casting and rolling as much as we can get out. my mill rolls over a million lbs a day.
Entendo perfeitamente. Isso já aconteceu comigo na Aciaria COSIPA, Brasil. Muito triste o final de uma operação metalúrgica.
The length of "cuting off" material could be calculated? how to estimate the length
The plant has now gone, & is a housing estate [2016].
Great vid, thanks for sharing it.
Last day is for new start.
ok.....well that sucks! instead of tearing it down i wonder why they just didn't mothball it if it was cost cutting. the economy will turn around. i guess it just pisses me off
Hello . Please inquire
What is the cost of this project
so whats the deal? why the last day?
I love all of the thumbs up like they are excited that they are about to be unemployed.
Oh, yeah. They'd be looking forward to the time off. Don't have to arise at 5 am in the immediate term. Can sleep in for once. Handy severance pay and any other accrued entitlements going into their accounts. They'd all have good spreads of tickets and licenses to pick up more work, all in good time.
Anyone tell me where that Ingot came from?
ok.......why? company reorganized and opened a new plant in different area? went bankrupt? cheap imports undercut the bottom line? just curious cause i hate seeing us continually lose our industrial capacity to china that doesn't have all the costly regulations and pay little to nothing in wages. where is this also? europe?
Hi, no the company did not go bankrupt, Birla group which owned the plant, is one of the oldest & biggest business families in India with diversified businesses like cement, automobile, textile, housing, finance etc. etc. They just relocated the plant to a place called Nagpur in India due to high operational costs & cheap imports. I am also from India so I know
@@saurabhjazz2132 Somehow I do not think Rodger Stone was a Indian company.
www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/novelis-aluminium-mill-rogerstone-july-2010.52243/
Perhaps the people you mention bought the assets and relocated it to India to build their own plant but this isn't a Indian company. Perfect example of the West closing down industry to save a buck.
@@sw8741 No Sir, you can very clearly observe the emblem of the rising Sun of the Indian company and their name written Aditya Birla Novelis at the very beginning of the video on the top right corner of the building under the roof. The plant was set up by a Canadian company Alcan Industries, so the plant was never really British or Welsh. And the Indian company did operate the plant for quite some time before shifting due to high operational costs
@@saurabhjazz2132 The Novelis company was spun off from Canadian mining and aluminum manufacturer, Alcan Inc. and incorporated in 2005.[8] The company was acquired by India's Hindalco Industries for $6 billion in 2007.[9] The acquisition made Hindalco one of the world's top integrated aluminum players.[10] This makes Novelis a member of the Aditya Birla Group.[11]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelis
Seems you do not know how mergers and acquisitions work. A company that buys another company has nothing to do with what the acquired company accomplished before. Notice when India took over the company they shut down the plant putting lots of people out of work then promptly demolished it.
@@sw8741 Good thing talking to me made you a more informed person. But by the way, when did I say Aditya Birla group acquired the pedigree and heritage of the parent company or that they built the plant, I just said they operated it before shutting down. It seems you are more furious that a so called "Non-Western" company acquired a "Western" company. Grow up, broaden your thoughts, Indians are not cunning Chinese who have this dangerous hunger to take over the world. Companies will be opened, will operate, will be acquired, will be shut, again something else will open. It's plain economics. If Hindalco acquired it with the idea of shutting down, some other company would have acquired the plant. It's not profitable to operate. That's it, stop stressing your brain or do something about the so called "Western" companies of yours to save them
Sir I want job in your company
:C
i wudnt worry - that plant will re-open again - probably under a different name
They demolished it and built houses on the site
@@gwrdriver1660 wow that was onle delayed reply! 12 years! Yes it's a housing estate now