As someone who grew up in Europe, I've had it easy with only 6-7 hours of school per day, only 5 days a week but it still got me exhausted, so I can't even imagine how terrible is to have classes 17 hours a day.I would be dead after the first day of school in China, so on the other hand, I admire how Chinese students are so strong to survive through such a gruesome education regime.
Yeah I always feel bad for complaining about working 8 hours knowing what people in Asia have to out up with. I need work in my life. Sitting home all days sounds boring. But a good work life balance is key. If I worked 12 hours like some do I wouldn't have time to do anything and would see my physical and mental health take a nose dive.
Humans are, by nature, a very resilient animal with great adaptability. I am also from Europe, and I don't know how much time it would take for the 996 system to make me insane but I think I would just give up before it happen.
My company just implemented a 32 hour work week and productivity actually increased. It turns out having a day for errands and time off really helps you focus the other 4 work days.
Everyone's different. I used to work the maximum overtime they'd allow, then work more even though I wasn't getting paid. I loved working and putting in 10-14 hour days, even though the max they'd pay me for was 10 or 11 if I remember correctly. As long as I had one day off a week, I was good.
My wife grew up in poverty in China, yet now she lives in America and makes $175,000 a year as a 35-year-old executive. By all objective measures, she is wildly successful, given her impoverished upbringing. And yet, all her parents do is criticize her and tell her she isn't good enough. They lament that my wife does not make seven figures, despite the fact that my in-laws made $10,000 a year as factory workers before they retired. The school my wife attended had 2,000 students, and I would guess that my wife is more successful than 99% of her peers. However, her parents constantly complain about my wife not making enough as their friend's daughter, a former classmate of my wife's who went on to marry a millionaire man 20 years her senior. That's it, that's the single person in her graduating class who's done better in life than my wife, yet all my in-laws do is compare my wife to her. They don't compare her to the 99% of former classmates struggling to get by in the 996 culture. They don't compare her to the former students making 20 or 30 thousand dollars year, which most of them are. Her parents' behavior has caused tremendous emotional damage to my wife's mental health, including severe depression. There's a very good reason we don't raise our kids the same way that she was raised. What is the point of raising a financially successful child if the methods you used make it impossible for them to enjoy their lives?
It sounds like your wife is so lucky to have you, she sounds like a lovely hard working person. Im so sorry her parents do not see her in the right light :(
Yeah, my spouse has parents like this, and so do I, despite us each making good money. We have to keep our contact with them minimal. It's wreaked havoc on our minds
@@liptoncunningham6666 as long as you don't blame yourselves for something you could've never changed. I'm guessing they're both mainlanders? It would explain their highly aggressive judgement, and maybe they went through the same pressures though it isn't an excuse.
As a foreigner studying in a Chinese high school, I'm really grateful that the problems surrounding Chinese study and work culture is coming to light. When I first came to China in middle school, as a high achiever, the drastic difference in the amount of effort I had to put in for a reasonable grade or even slight recognition within my courses came as a shock. The weight of inadequacy was unbearable. While in other Countries I'm seen as the "perfect" student, here it just isn't enough. I still remember my first month here, struggling to stay awake in classes, waking up in literal sweats every night, and then I would look at the life of my friends in my home country. They really don't know how lucky they are. I mourned the life I could of had. Things I had considered as little quirks of teenage hood had become the objects of my aspiration. To have free time and hang out with friends outside of school is just something you don't do here. By some miracle, and a lot of hard ass work, I got through to the second highest rated high-school in the country. All things considering, you do get used to it. My life has been reduced to a haze of sleepless nights and long hours spent at a desk but at least It's not as bad as it was. Me and my classmates get on average about twenty hours of sleep in a week. I go to school at 6:00am and come home after 9:00pm just to do more school work and homework, and that's not even that much compared to other students. A lot of my friends and classmates get home after twelve due to extra classes, eca's and tutoring. This system and it's students are broken and I've had to watch myself get sucked into the toxic grind culture that surrounds me and I just can't escape. My parents ask why I can't just take a break, they don't seem to understand THAT I LITTERALY CAN'T.
Damn, that sounds terrible. Hang in there, I hope you are close to finishing school. I had 8 hours of lessons every day + studying after and it was terribly exhausting, I can’t even imagine living like this. Schooling systems in general should take into consideration the physical and mental health of their students, a lot of people have burnout already as children, it’s preposterous. I’m rooting for you though! ✨
And all this for... what ? It only makes people less daring to be creative and original. There's a huge difference between working hard and working hard without meaning. I am studying Mathematics, which is one of the most difficult university courses and literal no one expect you get perfect grades because just passing the test is already difficult (it's not impossible, but it's like expect someone to play perfectly Piano in the first month). Lowering grade expectations helps you see how much you have improved and also to take more risks knowing that it is not the end of the world if it does not turn out "perfect" (so that you cultivate your creativity). 🧠✨️
So now the west is fighting China by convincing their smart kids to not learn as much as they do so they don’t succeed the west? 🤣 the information w -ar is so humiliating. Don’t even try because the Chinese will keep learning stop your manipulations keep them to your own people where u convince them of alcohol and all kinds of sexual stuff that helps reduce their numbers by fatal sexual diseases that you very well know linked with your Pride topic 😉
Man literally same except at some point I realized I didn’t care enough to kill myself trying to achieve something that I really didn’t care that much about and when I tell you how difficult it was going from the over achiever to so blatantly average 😭😭
In my school and university, if you write an essay with MORE than 5 thousand words if the teacher set that mark, he will grade you with a 0 for not following instructions. It happened to me.
Yes. I was thinking that in a lot of unis, the excessive writers would be heavily penalized. I know the emphasis has been on clarity and concise expression at the universities I've been involved with.
Sorry, bud, but your teacher sounds based. Also it's extra work for the teacher, and increasing their workload may start impacting your's and your fellow classmate's learning.
Exactly, same here in Australia! We have the -/+ 10% rule here. Write over 10% more or fewer words than the word count you're given and you'll be penalised and given a lower grade, depending on how far you went over/under the limit. Honestly, writing more than the teacher asks just encourages fuckin' rambling. Being concise with your writing is a valuable skill, and this was driven into me in both high school and uni.
I have a Chinese friend who has a lot of great academic achievements, but she told me about the study culture in China. She didn't have a childhood or teenage hood, it was just studying and sleeping and repeat, she'd go to school for 14 hours and then come home and study until 2 am. She was miserable, and as a result became a workaholic, constantly stressed out of her mind that she wasn't working hard enough at her PhD even though she worked 70 to 80 hour weeks. I will always remember when she told me that she was ranked second in her entire grade ( of like a 1000 students) and her mother scolded her for not being 1st.
@@BlunderBuns Chinese culture has always encouraged people to work hard. If a Chinese rests for too long. Chinese culture can make people feel guilty, such as I should continue to work hard and so on.
@@haochengzhai7156 That's toxic beyond belief. Witnessed it first hand with a relative. The only thing that this breeds is resentment and frustration instead of excellence. Let's say you become very proficient at passing exams, after that you'll have to work having LESS skills than other peers since school tests are required only there and you've just became a super expert in passing them (or memorizing massive amounts of trivial knowledge that has little application, instead of actually learning to understand complex knowledge).
@@azmodanpc There is no way because China is a fair society, not a society where you can buy your way in. The best schools in China admit you based on your grades, not whose son you are, alumni. The West doesn't have so much pressure. Maybe they can go to private schools and it doesn't matter whether they do well or not, but not in China.
Yes thats why a 20+ year old chinese have 0 understanding of things outside their bubble. It's sad yes. No world view , just pumping content robot style
I work in a chemistry lab and a couple of years ago we had someone from China who was used to the 669 schedule. At first everyone praised her for her productivity and work ethic. However over time it became apparent that she was so used to working in the lab that she had no personal time to develop critical thinking and other things outside the lab that would help you become a more well rounded chemist. She had terrible social skills and struggled to communicate what she wanted. She felt like if the more she worked, the more people would recognise her and give her a promotion. But the higher ups thought she was just good as a lab rat and so let her stay that way. She then became disillusioned and felt “invisible”, especially since the people who had work-life balance seemed to be happier and better chemists overall and so she ended up quitting. Last I heard she is working in a different lab.
She should have stayed in China, there her sense of value would be understood and rewarded. There, she would be promoted for her hard work and would not collapse as you said. She might as well stay in China if she can't adapt to a totally different value system.
@@Super_Mario_EsqDoubt it. If she was doing 996, she likely didn't come from a prestigious family nor develop the guanxi to overcome her lack of social inheritance.
My friend at my university specialization is from China. She is many miles better a student than I am, I am very average but I do like doing my own little projects on the side. She eventually got curious about the hackerspace i was participating in, so when I first started getting to know her outside of school I will never forget one of the things she said to me: "You are so curious about everything, it makes me wonder how many years of my life I hadn't lived because I wasn't allowed to feel that"
I did my bachelors degree in China, you could even think the Chinese students were like robots. When you go to the library you could hear most if not all reciting the books, just cramming the whatever is in the books. There is no thinkin outside the box, just whatever is inside the books. Speaking to a number of proffesors, most were praising foreign students about how inquisitive we were and social with the faculty. Some said they could go weeks without students asking questions in class. It was really an eye opening experience
Yes as a foreigner in China, this is exactly what I experience at work all the time. Great degrees but 0 practical or outside the box thinking. All-in-all a Chinese pump content degree says shit. Just memorizing thats all
@@bunnyfreakzYes they complement each other, but purging one or the other, I'd say innovation and creativity more so, does students a great disservice
Jokes on you my dad taught foreign students, and he spoke terribly of them. This may not apply to you, but he said he'd give them worksheets and assignments to make them feel useful because they lacked so much knowledge and didn't work as hard.
Even though I escaped from the system by coming to Germany 5 years ago and now working at a German company, I still can't stop thinking to push myself further and improve myself constantly as the whole involution idea is so deelpy embedded in my brain that I need to be better. Fortunately, the general working environment in Germany doesn't encourage working overtime and emphasizes emoployee mental health and work-life balance, which allows me to rethink what I really like and want to do in my life. Although this toxic thinking of involution comes back and forth, I am working on getting over it.
Ich bin sehr froh darüber, dass dir Deutschlehrer gut tut. Als jemand der hier aufgewachsen ist, ist es schwieriger zu sehen, dass man es hier doch sehr leicht hat. Ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg!! :)
When I moved from China to Germany 10 years ago, I enjoyed the Privilege of doing so as a German. I could not have expected in which ways China was going to change for the worse from then. Among my Friends I experience more issues getting Americans to comply with our working environment and work-life-balance than Chinese. With the latter it is something involuntary as you described. With the former the mindset is that they will stick to their work habits, continue to do more hours, and just defraud on the time measuring system to not show all the hours and comply on paper.
Growing up in Taiwan, I remember during elementary school the teacher would show us everyone grades and their rank in the class, the top student would get some sort of prize and the last 3 students would get ridiculed and humiliated, they were trouble kids and most likely suffered from ADHD or some learning disability. Also it was very normal for my neighbors and parents friends randomly ask for your grades and class rank, I would just lie and say 10 or 12th instead of 20th because of the pressure.
Its sad that almost everyone sees this insane competition and abuse of children as normal. Its sad how the world can take a pure baby and only think how can we squeeze as much productivity out of this life as possible? Hope you made it through school with your self worth intact
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
My ex's sister had a nervous breakdown from the university entrance exam. She was in a hospital in Fuzhou on a floor for other kids who had broken down from studying for the same test.
High stress situations can present itself physically and/or psychologically depending on how the person is handling a certain amount of stress. Either way, they were in the hospital for a reason@@ambiguousness
@@ambiguousness Yes, it's very physical. People can die due to the stress of a nervous breakdown because your heart can literally give out under bad conditions and stress. You can have a stroke/heart attack/etc.
A teacher living in Haidian, I have to say it must be one of the most intense places on the planet. It's heartbreaking to hear a six-year-old tell you how excited they were when their mother was quarantined due to the pandemic, just so they could get a break from their weekend classes. I struggle to convince the how this practice is really counterproductive, the diminishing returns on constant expensive tutoring should be obvious when you're sacrificing your child's mental health. Really loved the video, happy to have discovered your channel!
It’s honestly ridiculous and any appeal to traditional philosophy betrays the average Chinese’ ignorance towards our own heritage. It’s just capitalism, and drinking all the cool-aid associated with it. Ironically Chinese people might be the most thirsty drinkers of it with the highly imbalanced cultural exchange with America and the West during Reform and Opening up. Taking it way farther than even Westerners are able to stomach because they have wealth to actually develop a culture on what is actually important in life.
I was an elementary schooler in Haidian about 17 years ago and hearing what kids go through nowadays makes me shudder... I remember going to weekend schools for essay writing, Olympics maths, English etc, and I also got in a prestigious weekend school at 人大附中 where I barely understood what was going on and just read novels under my desk instead. I thought I had it bad compared to my friends in the states but when you compare it to what kids do now, I was basically slacking off.
I was a HaiDian 新东方 teacher and I worked 8am-10pm-7days a week, 8 10 7? lol I was miserable. Burnout after burnout, get sick every season. But all jobs are like that, capitalistic bosses expect workers to overwork and pay minimal payment. At least I got paid, after quitting and going to smaller establishments sometimes I didn't even get paid, but I got experience and moved on to another establishment, with experience I got another job that paid somewhat. That's how I survived through the pandemic teaching kids at small establishments. Now I'm working for another large company again 小站。
I think it's very telling that when the isekai genre first came into prominence, the protagonist usually died due to a car accident and was then reincarnated in a fantasy world where they basically became a Shonen protagonist. In countless modern isekai, the protagonist is dying due to overwork because of an abusive company. Then, when they reincarnate into their new world, they instead aim to live a slow, relaxing life to make up for what they missed out on in their previous life. That right there is a scathing critique of the modern-day workplace in Asia
And often, they start their own business and get friends, beating the evil characters who had success from the start. I bet it’s because of the “cog in a machine” feeling, that you can’t do anything.
After watching this video and seeing this comment. I feel like I get why there is so much demand for those types of stories. I'm personally bored to death with them, but now I'm way more sympathetic to the types of people who might enjoy them.
I met a korean girl that ended up leaving the country due to the exact grind detailed in this video. What struck me is just how socially accepted that kind of behaviour is, she said that she was effectively peer pressured into staying at school after classes to study so that she didn't give the impression of being lazy. Even after landing a job at Samsung she still didn't feel satisfied with her life, realized that her problem was the society she lived in and decided to leave.
as someone with adhd + executive dysfunction, i could never keep up with a system like that. i wonder what happens to others like me but in china, i hope it's not too bad for them :[
The comment about the 4 year old's English vocabulary hit me... I taught some Chinese students online from the UK. One was eight, and was basically impossible to keep focussed because he was, well, eight. The parents seemed to have picked me as a teacher because I use story-based methods that are more fun and engaging for kids, but then after each class the mum would complain that he didn't speak with complex enough vocabulary and grammar - as if a native speaker 8-year-old would be talking like a university student! I also taught a 14-year-old boy who lived in Beijing who had amazing English. He could easily read novels in English. It seemed to me a complete waste of time for him to be taking after-school classes when he could just read books and watch films in English. And his parents also seemed to think his level wasn't good enough. EDIT: Just reached the part about foreign tutors being banned. I had no idea this happened. IIRC I was teaching these kids in 2020 and maybe early 2021 through italki, which is a Chinese company.
sounds like my parents lmao. they had a three year trying to learn three languages - English, mandarin, and canto. it ended with me being fluent in mando and eng, and understanding canto pretty well, but unable to speak
honestly would i be considered lucky as an asian who doesnt have strict parents? in fact theyre completely fine with me pursuing an art career and completely abandoning those academic subjects after graduating school lol
@@Jade.the.Government extremely i would say. Most want stem type topics and you wanting an art career and them saying yes to me sounds like they have given up on u (honestly not to sound rude). Besides, my parents scoffed when I chose music for gcse but half minded when I said I’d be choosing English. I guess I got the halfway point then.
Girl, I resonated with this video so much. I'm indian and we have similar shit here too. There are these extremely competitive exams (JEE and NEET). Because students are highly discouraged from taking career paths that are 'unconventional' ie literally everything that isn't doctor/engineer, many students take these exams due to external pressure.
@@Silversubs29078 Some people are surprised because they think of NEET in Not Employed in Education or Training. That would be the opposite of hard work in school.
To me, the assignment example is really strange! If the professor asked for a 2000 word essay and we turned in a 5000 word essay, we would fail the assignment lol. In my Uni (in Australia), every 10% we go over the word count, there's a 10% penalty.
I thought so too! I'm in Aus too with a uni that has the same rule. What uni professor would have the time to grade papers like that as well?? It's ludicrous
@@bluebelle_thenerd Nah I tried for UniMelb but ended up at Monash for being a tad too lazy for a good atar lol. It was fine though, I graduated anyways 👍
another aussie here, I'm in year 8 and pretty happy to say I don't feel the pressure from our system atm, I'm glad my school is one of the better ones thatprioritises mental health over work and that I'm surrounded by dumbshit white boys that make me look like a child prodigy in comparison. I definitely think we should be moving towards a socialist market though, just because china is worse doesn't mean we can't be better.
I went to elementary school in China until grade 2. Chinese elementary schools have 6-8 year olds learning multiple step algebra and kids are expected to do homework for hours after school which starts at 7.30am and ends at 5pm. Most (like 99%) of families send their kids to tutoring/online classes from basically the moment you're born. From my experience, my teachers would send test results back to all the parents in the class groupchat and it included rankings and sometimes the teacher would make snarky comments about kids who are ranked low. During lunch breaks we are not allowed to go outside. You have to clean the classroom and if you're really young (like 1st graders), you have to sit there and read something educational like a textbook (I once got yelled at when I was 6 or 7 for reading a picture book lol). I remember being made class captain for the day and the other kids had to seek permission from me for literally everything. Someone dropped their eraser and had to ask me to let them pick it up- Also i swear every teacher acts like high school bullies: i remember lining up in front of the classroom and our teacher was joking with another teacher about kids being so dumb etc. The other teacher kicked one of her students. Not like a really hard kick, just to scare him. The student (who was in 2nd grade probably) flinched and they laughed so hard at him and then they both went around mime kicking/hitting ppl for a couple minutes before the bell rang. They also knew to only pick on kids with poorer backgrounds so I was never physically harmed because my family were relatively better off (my school was in an a area with different social classes because it was still being developed but I believe it has become more of a middle/higher middle class area now) which was why we were able to move to another country. And some more specific things I remember doing in class: -There was an exercise were 2nd graders had to answer 10 multiple step algebra questions within 2 minutes. The punishment for not getting every single one right is to copy the question the did wrong and the answer 60 times. -One guy in my class failed a math test (pass grade is 60% iirc) and had to copy down the ENTIRE PAPER THREE TIMES. It was a double sided A3 paper. this was in grade 2 btw. -One parent told out teacher that she's giving out too much homework and she got the poor kid to stand in front of the class and tell him that he'll never get into a good school, he's stupid and incompetent etc etc and the rest of the class had to agree with her in unison. -For some reason some teachers could cancel our electives?? Like the class would score low on a test on average and the math teacher would call the music teacher and just tell her the class has lost their music privledges and will be doing double math instead of music??? To conclude this is just my personal experience but i have heard stories from my Chinese friends that their tutors hit them with metal rulers and gave them even more work that school did which caused them to work past 12am (and these are people who left china before 5th grade). And I lived in Beijing so idk what it's like in other places. Obviously I didn't go past 2nd grade there so I can't speak to the experiences of high-schoolers/uni students/young adults in China. There is a phrase I've heard a lot of Chinese parents use that basically translates to "losing at the starting line" which they use to justify sending their young kids to tutoring death camps so some food for thought ig anyways sorry this was so long.
I also attended primary school back in China up until grade 4. And I can tell you they put insane amount of pressure on kids. I was only a few years old and I was forced to do homework until 11pm, only to wake up at almost 7am and go to school until 5pm. When I first moved over to Australia, the school system was like heaven in comparison except I couldn't speak much English and was teased by other students because of it. I don't think I would've been able to handle the high school years in China.
Oh my god. I hope you feel ok after those traumatic experiences as a child. Everything you mentioned was horrifying and it was a good thing I didn't have to experience that.
I went to an afterschool art program in China and what I saw was incredibly astonishing. The art displayed by the middle and high school students were absolutely incredible! In fact, you might think many of these young students had graduated art school already, however they all looked as if they were created by the same singular artist! Not much personality, yet extremely skilled! It was somehow a little eerie.
Unfortunately, most art schools in China only teach students on how to draw that would please the examiners and earn a high mark. I once saw a video of an art teacher showing their students work, which he then promptly showed a drawing which is kind of similar to caricature, with the woman in the drawing having really exaggerated features and expressions. You can tell the drawing is really well made and the student is also really skilled in his craft. But the teacher berated the drawing, saying if the student thinks it's funny or special for drawing like this, and this kind of drawing will only get them a really low mark. The comments under the video are also divided, with a lot of netizens thinking the drawing is really unique and well done, while others ( mostly so called 'art students') criticise the artist saying drawing like this won't get them to college, and that they are just wasting their parents money with this kind of artwork. I found it quite funny how most of the 'bad' comments didn't criticise the art, but rather focus on not scoring a good mark instead.
i don't think that's a problem, if you're learning from a master it's very common to do master studies or copy the master's style , that is to learn the fundamentals. once you leave that process then you will try to integrate other influences and develop your own artistic look. not saying China doesn't have these problems described by the video or by thread creator, just for the topic of art, all students making the same looking pictures isn't necessarily a problem.
@@catstalker8218 i guess i know what art school to not go to, since my dream career is a full-time animator with an exaggerated art style (shown in my pfp lol)
What’s interesting is as an American I’ve actually experienced this phenomenon working *in reverse.* You plan on doing your best on an assignment, then look to your right and left and seeing the other kids cutting corners. Over time you realize that it’s unnecessary to give 100% effort because even with 50% of what you’re capable of, youll still be slightly above average. So you slack. Which in turn prompts those around you to slack. And before you know it, you’re in a classroom of kids that have failed to meet the standards, so the tchrs lower their standards to compensate. Honestly the reverse phenomenon is just as bad-it can slow the progress of society as a whole (though luckily, this doesn’t happen in *every* classroom of course. It’s present but hasn’t yet taken over)
Honestly, what should be encouraged is to learn to love books, learn how to read books, and learn how to learn books for personal and community growth.
@@wacaysjibril3595you can work hard and also have a life. The american dream was never about being half assed and enjoying life. You get what you work for
this is hilariously true I remember making fun of my friends in hs for cheating, and he ended up doing better than me it did actually benefit him, but now he's a loser you can't escape the personality trait
The price of failure being so high also increases the amount of cheating in my experience. Especially "low risk" cheating, like plagiarizing at home assignments, etc. Students who realized they can't achieve the grades they think they need in order to guarantee their future will look elsewhere for help. And I'm not talking about "slackers", but some of the best students in the school. They work their asses off, still fail to meet impossible expectations, and cheat in desperation.
AI will turbocharge this. The only realistic way to meet these crazy expectations is industrialized artifical intelligence churning out educational 'product' like nobody's business
The reason why Asian education is so outrageously harsh is because of the fact that they weight value of the test score too high. Asian education, prioritizing TEST SCORE way too much. In America education system, your test score, especially the score of the final test, is only a portion of your class score but…in China, it’s isn’t like this, they value test score way too much. Not to mention Chinese version of SAT. the score determines which collage you can enroll. All and all, the problem is the weight of the test score, that’s the mean reason why students work so hard in order to beat the rest of the students. Your test score determines everything, and this is the real issue. Society competition isn’t the reason why students work their life out. If test score not the only factor of enrollment or to get a better class score, then students will have an easy time in school and get the diplomat, and graduation, or enroll a good collage. The only reason why Asian student work so hard in school is to graduate from better collage, so they can get a better job after graduation. so the problem is about, how to make it less of a competition in school. Which is exactly what I just mentioned…. DO NOT value test score as the only factor of enrollment, or your school GPA. So that the student won’t need to fight against each other to be qualified, or study 6 days a week just to perform good in the next class test. if you look at American education system. they prioritize at general performence of a student, not just good at doing TEST. Your : Homework, class participation, behavior in class, regular test throughout the semester, Mid-term and Final are all important. these will all play part of the role in your GPA ( Grade Point Average, is a number that indicates how high you scored in your courses on average) or in other word; Class score. under this education system, student won't need to study as hard in order to enroll a better collage, hence can get a better job in society without study your life out in school. as reason above, the job difficulty doesn't have direct impact to the heavy workload that student is having.
Well you learn to live the fact you are not going to be number one. A lot of people work hard and will not be number one and do not cheat. You are Just basically making excuse for bad behavior. Basically in this country if you are C student in HS you can take your basic classes at a community College and if you can get a decent grade in q community College a state school will take you. No you will not make to a top school but you do not need to do that to have a decent life. I think the biggest problem is people expectation are really out of wack with reality of life.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg You just described Indian exams such as Iit jee ,neet along with Gakao. We asians value test score too much and define it as success , Our systems are again built around this concept. As a student it sucks.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg exactly, i dont even like the country im in but my school also focuses on participation, general attitude (the report cards even have a score of your attitude to learning) and we have things like wellbeing week, art week, dress up days, and now i realise how lucky i am when i used to complain endlessly
Resonates with what I've experienced as a worker in Mexico, same mindset of "if you're not willing to do this overtime there's someone outside waiting to fill your position" from bosses. Thank you for the video
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@ericktellez7632 But the people who are willing to do it should stop being stupid and realize if they all stop being willing to do it their negotiation position improves.
I used to live with a chinese guy, he worked constantly, doing the full 99-6 while living with me. Thing is, i looked at some of the work he was doing, so much of it was pointless busywork that would just be going straight to the shredder. I told him this, he was working more than anyone i'd ever met yet he was doing maybe as much work as i did in 8 hrs a day. The thing is, burnt out ppl get less done than ppl who take time to rest and recuperate, they get more done in the short term, but in the medium to long term they fall far behind. To any chinese or other asian people reading this who feel this crushing weight of constant work and impossible expectations. Take a break, breathe the air, take a nap, go for a walk and play a game. You can easily justify it to others by pointing out you're keeping yourself productive by avoiding burnout.
That's the point where this intensive education (I don't even wanna call this piece of shit 'education' but anyway) do their job. It's like an authoritarian regime does to its people, but this education system is more 'effective', because children has no power to resist you know, and it's much easier to internalize an unquestioning obedience a man whose personality has not been fully built yet. I've lived in here South Korea for 34 years. Education has made Koreans do something which you guys can never even imagine. We do not love, care for, or understand each other anymore. Why would we, when the other people are only competitors who just has to be eliminated? And seems like it's not the only case in Korea...
Very true, that. My boss has a 28-30 hour week because of that, (we work commercial janitorial), and we get more sites and more places done than most that work a similar 996 type schedule. Sure, when we're working it's nothing but hustle, but I get paid a few dollars an hour over prevailing, and can't complain about having the rest of my time for other stuff I need to do.
i remember my therapist telling me that the most important thing for a teen is to find a peergroup and friends. not grades. she told me that that is crucial for adulthood and u will have an extremly really hard time integrating into society and will probably end up in some job extremely unhappy because u never learned how to properly have a social life.
@@IAmGodHimself777 eh. i think having a *proper social life* is wildly overvalued in certain parts of the world to the detriment of things like education, but I am an introvert in the United States so I'm biased
I had a professor who taught in China for a few years and he would tell us that he greatly preferred teaching in American universities because the Chinese students had never been taught to critically think so they couldn’t write essays or defend their viewpoints. Rote learning doesn’t prepare students to analyze problems and create innovative solutions to those problems.
Students in, or from, China achieve excellent academic results. But when come to solving problems in the real world, and being creative and innovative, they are behind the Europeans, Americans, Japanese, and other nationalities. Metaphorically speaking... Chinese students are better than western students in following the recipes however complex the recipes are. Western students would question the recipes, change the recipes, and create their own recipes. It's a culture thing, not just an education issue. Obedience and respect are important part of the Chinese culture, you are taught these since you understand words. PS. I was born in east Asia to Chinese mother. Spent my early formative years there. But since secondary school, I have been British educated. And then I worked and lived in a number of western countries. So I have insights from various cultures.
@@graxzinomafpo6796There are different levels or types of maths. The first kind is routine problem solving. This the the type you find in most schools, undergraduate, and graduate exams. I would consider even routine engineering and science calculations in the real world of this type. The second type is the kind that you find new questions and problems to investigate but using existing methods. This is the type of maths you may find in nearly all research papers. The bulk of conventional maths research would be this type. The third type is about creation and innovation. New theorem, new theory, new methods, applying existing methods in new ways, solving extremely hard problems, pioneering a new area, etc. The front end of maths research would be this type. Chinese students do very well in type 1 maths. They start to struggle to produce good work in type 2 maths. Very very few Chinese (inc people with Chinese background in the west) researchers produce type 3 maths.
@@graxzinomafpo6796There are different levels or types of maths. The first kind is routine problem solving. This the the type you find in most schools, undergraduate, and graduate exams. I would consider even routine engineering and science calculations in the real world are of this type. The second type is the kind that you find new questions and problems to investigate but using existing methods. This is the type of maths you may find in nearly all research papers. The bulk of conventional maths research would be this type. The third type is about creation and innovation. New theorem, new theory, new methods, applying existing methods in new ways, solving extremely hard problems, pioneering a new area, etc. The front end of maths research would be this type. Chinese students do very well in type 1 maths. They start to struggle to produce good work in type 2 maths. Very few Chinese researchers produce type 3 maths.
@@graxzinomafpo6796 I hear that primary schools United States spends significantly more time on social studies and social sciences than primary schools in east asian countries like Japan and China, where they spend much more time on mathematics. I think this translates to people who simply develop different types of critical thinking applicable to different fields.
I teach kids who escaped the 高考system (at an international school). Some of them are still burnt out by it, some pretty rough depression or anxiety. But at least they’re out of it. I can’t imagine losing so much of my childhood for a few exams…
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Omg thats horrible, those kids really really need a break. I know what long term burnout is like (I'm not asian but I get burntout very very easily) and they deserve a break. I feel really bad for all of them who have escaped or who are still in that system
I was in a Chinese Secondary school and get major depression while I am only 13 year old. Attempt suicde many times and finally leave that environment. However, these cultures and goals were internalized like cancer. Even I am living in Canada and preparing for my second Masters degree, I am still experiencing panic attacks with cues about grade. Even sleep, I still dreamed many times I was in Chinese School and screaming, trying to escape, unstoppable repeating: "I am already graudated."
It's worth noting that the Chinese work ethic is so intense it even affects schools internationally. Here in the states, Chinese exchange students so outcompete their US peers that it causes all sorts of imbalances. That includes academic prejudice against those exchange students - they're often seen as a separate category, and measured against each other instead of the normal admission standards of the school. I'm sure many schools also keep a close eye on their demographics, trying to ensure that exchange students don't make up too much of the population, which would place a cap on how many international students can get in. Not to mention the broader adverse effects it has on race relations. Imagine if instead of everyone competing in a race to the bottom, it was a specific race from abroad importing a toxic work ethic. In the US (any maybe the rest of the west?) the paradigm for understanding these behaviors is 'the prisoner's dilemma.' A game in which betraying your peers is incentivized, resulting in negative outcomes for everyone, including the defaulter. It's not as prominent a movement in the US, because our work culture isn't quite so egregious (and would probably get different language if it were, the prisoner's dilemma isn't *that* well-known), but there's still some intense hostility toward people sucking up to their boss.
I just saw some California school shut down a English honors class cause it was mostly if not completely full of Asian kids. They said it was racist. Thus the class was canceled. Sorry I can't remember the school name. It happened earlier this week.
@@baronvonjo1929 Just googled it. Culver City, wasn't completely Asian just not "balanced". Their problem was that only 10% of students were Asian but 34% of honour students were. Compared to Latino students who were 37% of the students but only 13% of honour students. Black and white kids did not have the same disparity. They weirdly decided this was racial inequality and canceled the classes.
US workers are nr 10 in annual work hours in oecd countries. US work culture is quite bad too. I don’t know where you got the idea that Americans have it super easy?
It's the same here in Canada as well where the standard of doing good is based on the exchange students. This really gets to me as I feel like I'm never good enough and outclassed in every subject. I don't blame the exchange students though, it 's just that it creates a super competitive environment which I crack under.
I’m a Chinese student who lives in England. I grew up in here my whole life, it wasn’t hard, the only thing that was hard was my parents physically and mentally abusing me, forcing me to be the best, etc. It was hard since there were many people that were as smart as me, or even smarter. Literally cried every single day if I didn’t get 100% or I didn’t get first just because I couldn’t impress me Chinese parents. I was so competitive, pushing everything but my education away.
@ThePHiLsTeR well, i don't want to say this but your dad could have been abusive in many ways even ones you wouldn't habe recognized or maybe your dad did it out of the good of himself and was there for genuine. You can be toxic and loving too.
@ThePHiLsTeR i said *could* have, not to insult you but because its something that happens very often to people with trauma that takes years to realize and because the brain is extremely good in dissociating / -forgetting- things.
@@makuru.42 I don’t think we should be arguing with people we don’t know with what is really scant personal life details on whether they’ve been potentially abused or not…
Something that scares me is what happens to those who may have learning disabilities. Not just severe global intellectual disabilities but things like dyslexia or a nonverbal learning disability as examples. Im in America so its different but even here my learning disability has caused me so much pain and stress in my academic career...i cant imagine how much more painful it would be in this kind of system. I legitimately dont know if id survive.
yeah, i have severe issues producing sentences for essays. it feels like a blockage in my brain and it can take me an hour to think of a single sentence. without max word limits i would be screwed forever
As someone with ADHD who grew up in China until I was 8-9, I struggled with time blindness and would only be able to finish my homework around midnight. Learning disabilities are largely underdiagnosed (esp in less developed regions), and these kids would often be the target of the teachers' bullying and paraded around as bad examples for the other kids to not follow. Most likely they would not be able to pass their exams to get to high school and instead end up at technical colleges, where, upon graduation, they'd be working at one of those thousands of factories where yall get your "made in China" products from.
It can be a different story though. I'm obviously very lucky and was able to emigrate along with my parents, but one way for Chinese kids to leave the rat race would be to specialise in arts or sports, where the university grade requirements are a lot lower. If kids with learning disabilities are well-supported by their families and have talent in these areas, they may be able to make it. However, these are still money-consuming endeavours and a lot of families won't be able to do this.
Painfully relatable; I barely survived the American education system with undiagnosed ADHD and autism. I shudder when I think about somebody with those conditions having to survive school systems like the Chinese one.
I have to say i'm not chineese I'm indian. Here we prepare for JEE and NEET University exams. They're extremely difficult! And EXACTLY the same culture is present here. It's beyond stressful and overwhelming as well as exhausting. It causes widespread depression and anxiety. And the causes are the same as well. These things resonate sooo much to me especially the part about how when parents give up a part of their life for u you feel obligated to do the same !
@@freezingicy9457 you just did a good thing for yourself...more than 90% of aspirants will not get thier goal and will have to reach it other way or drop it entirely...you just doged a bullet...i myself am trying to be a human again after being a cog for these machines for 2 years
I'm Brazilian (of no Asian descent, by the way). I've been raised in a familiar environment similar to those of Asian cultures but on a lesser scale, I imagine. I developed depression, anxiety, insecurity and an unhealthy obssession for big achievements (there were other factors that caused this, but this was one of them). What really pisses me off is that I was psychologically tortured to become an overachiever in a culture that does not value this kind of person.
''I was psychologically tortured to become an overachiever in a culture that does not value this kind of person''... damn, really resonated with this part. i hope you know there are people who value you deeply for all you are and not just what you achieve, friend.
Amigo, você pode procurar ajuda para curar os seus traumas, e até mesmo antes de curá-los completamente, você verá são muito menores do que os benefícios do desenvolvimento que você obteve. O seu batismo foi de fogo, mas você venceu!
@@1eyeddevil929 To be fair, that line was from Fletcher in Whiplash, and he absolutely is not the sort of paragon for teachers that we should be following, period.
Stress is bad for the body, it makes me sad to see little kids stressed about school/their future. Wanting good marks and studying to the point your developing body doesn't get enough sleep are different, one is fine, the other is unhealthy.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I used to teach in Korea and it was depressing on an existential level. Everyone but Capital in the country suffers a meaningless life of struggle. Students have to memorize facts for pointless exams. I had a kindergartener tell me he want to wnd his life over pressure for a first grade entrance exam and the Korean teachers and the parents just laughed it off and said he isn't working hard enough. Workers make their life about work. Mother in laws compete over who gets the most expensive handbag. I tried to talk about the things you are discussing in this video and was basically shunned if I brought it up. I was an absolute ahole to managers, coworkers, and parents to create a supportive and positive learning environment for my students (Kindergarten in the mornings, elementary cram school in afternoons) until the fight burned me out after three years. I had one 1st grade after school student who had cram schools from 8am to 12am (an effing piano class from 11 to midnight) who I let sleep on my jacket under a table sometimes because she'd come in delirious from exhaustion with bags under her eyes.
i live in Brazil, and we definitely have completely different educational problems from China, but this honestly reminds me of the ENEM season in Brazil, wich is pure chaos. You're prepared your whole school life for this one single exam and your whole worth as a person is defined by how much you scored on it. It's terrifying. I'm preparing to do it this year, since its the only way people who can't afford going to college can get there and im honestly losing my sanity.
I understand your situation. I am 36 years old, so I still got the old vestibular. But the good thing about our educational system is that it allows for multiple attempts. Don't put too much pressure in yourself, you can always try again. I understand that you might need to work if you don't succeed. Try to talk to your parents if you don't, and ask them for one year more. Listen, success is more about long run resilience than speed. Try to think more like that. I hope you succeed!
Yep... I'll take mine this year, but I dont think it will count (2nd yr high school), had a friend take it last year. More or so to prepare, as someone who wants to get in a federal university for medicine. I'll have to kill myself studying
We have the same in Russia, our main exam called ЕГЭ/USE (Единый Государственный Экзамен, Unified State Exam) and when after 90s the government started experimenting with USE, it was actually seen as a good alternative to Soviet examing system, because with USE, you don't need to pass internal exams in majority of universities, you can just apply your USE score, if it meets the quota of the uni you choose. But then, everything got so fucked up students today are taught not to remember something important and then use it in unis, but just, just to pass this whole ass exam, like your life depends on it. A lot of students fail on USE, because the whole exam is a lottery in tests, despite these children received very good grades in school, attended extra classes for USE and their parents paid so much money for tutors. Even those, who passed Soviet exams excellently, also failed at USE. This exam causes so much pressure and stress on Russian students, that child suicide rates escalate quickly in May-July, when USE is held. The goverment is very ignorant on this, and older generations don't want to understand why USE is so unfairly hard and shallow, they all say youngsters are just "lazy".
This just reminds me how my mum used to stop me from helping my childhood friend in her studies. She used to get really 'hush hush' and say 'you shouldn't help her focus on your own studies', even though i was getting a 4.5 GPA every year constantly. but i am glad i never let these types of things bother me
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@rogercroft3218 So true. When I used to teach my friends and classmates I felt like I had improved alot from it. We ended up in a small study session teaching each other and I released how effective it was compared to just studying on your own.
"the harder you work, the more hopeless things become" This has such a resonance for me. I'm at the point where I realized that at this point we individually can only do so much to improve our own lives. In order for us to collectively improve our standards of living on a global scale we have to collectivize and withhold our labor. I live in Canada and have been here for most of my life, and after attending university and getting an education I realize that even with all of this my prospects for a better life are quite minuscule given inflation and the rising cost of living.
Troubling when in some of these societies, the demand for a "good" job is higher than demand for a similarly good/skilled worker. They literally live in "I can find another skilled person to replace you at cheaper rates" type of society. It is good thing I live in one where even if there is lots of competition, there is always job niche (high demand, low supply of workers) that I chose, unlike those countries where actual enterprising people being the most demanded ones. Basically Too many bosses > too little workers > means more rights to workers as they are the valuabe asset. Or Too many workers > Not enough bosses therefore not many jobs > low pay, no rights to workers.
@@minitntman1236 Better jobs doesn't necessarily mean more bosses. Bosses tend to be useless middlemen. But yea, this is why we constantly are told we are in "shortages". It's so companies can use the large pool of skilled workers and make them fight for scraps.
I'm currently living in Japan and want to try raising a kid here up through preschool. I love the values Japanese preschools have for respecting each other and your environment. There's a lot of social skill learning that happens through play. But once my child starts going to elementary school, I'll be looking to move. I don't ever want my child to experience the academic competitiveness that comes with upper elementary school and middle school.
Crazy to think about how Chinese education system got so bad that Japanese education system started getting considered as better, despite it's also very stressful and toxic.
Eh, it depends. The Schools I went to weren't terrible. Also it depends on how you approach it. If you are too serious you'll get burnt out, and feel terrible; but if you like myself don't take it too seriously and just try to avoid flunking, you'll be fine. After that go to the more specialized high schools, like agricultural, industrial, commercial, etc. I went to Itoshima agricultural high school and had the time of my life! If the game is shit, don't play it, play around it!
As a person who grew up in an Asian country, I feel really uncomfortable watching this because it brings me back to the old, dark days when I could only see the light from the small window of cram schools. Due to the education system in Asia, I promised myself never to let my children be raised in Asia, or rather, never to have any children since I don’t want to subject them to some of my darkest nightmares. I hope all children can have bright dreams, not endless nightmares.
In South Asia you don’t even have a choice about stuff like marriage or kids ( that’s the main set of cultural timelines). I only knew that it was a choice after being on the western side of the internet.
I know that brazilian conditions are pretty better in terms of pressuring the students, but WHO IS THE ASSHOLE WHO DECIDED TO PICK INSPIRATION ON KOREAN NATIONAL EXAM TO A COUNTRY OF MILLIONS OF PARENTS UNEMPLOYED/STARVING AND CREATE A LIE TO SAY THAT EVERYONE CAN GO TO THE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY Context here: theres public unis (who are good) in Brazil, but because public school education here is horrible, only the people with money to pay an alternative of that (paid schools) can go to the public university
@@dname3no467 i was a lucky asian bc my parents are supportive of my dreams + dont pressure/compare me, they dont even check if im doing work (i have adhd so i barely do work)
Everyday I am thankful to my parents for bringing me to Canada at a young age. I grew up in hangzhou until I was 8 years old, but even as a child I understood how much competition there was. This type of life is not sustainable and creates genuinely soulless working bots. But if I could say one thing, it doesn’t have to stay like that. When my cousin came to our place for a bit, I saw a sliver of his real personality start to come out. I genuinely believe that many young people need to leave and find who they are outside of China
Exceptional video - factual, straightforward and well-documented. Also matches up almost perfectly with my own experiences and those of many colleagues in China. One point missed is how many Chinese with money are now sending their kids overseas to boarding schools as early as middle school just to avoid the rat race. Anecdotal evidence as well for a similar trend in South Korea.
I see this in Canada! Recently, rich Chinese parents have been paying our local public school boards tuition so their kids can study here. I don’t mind, it’s financially supporting our school systems! But I always wondered why
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg i am Chinese. Our society is much fairer than the western. This video just cater to the Western biases or double standards about china.
As someone who grew up in Bangladesh, I relate to this a lot. I am in grade eleven right now. And in 2025 I will be giving a board exam that will decide my future. There are a total of 4 board exams in 12 years of school. One in grade 5, then in grades 8, 10 and 12. There is a thing called "GOLDEN A*" here. Students are divided into 3 groups in grade 9 which are science, commerce, and humanities. In society's eyes choosing science means you are very smart, choosing commerce means you want to be a banker, and choosing humanities means you are dumb and you don't want to study that's why you chose it. People think you are dumb and a failure just because you chose humanities. But in reality, they are the one who succeeds in real life. I chose science. I wasn't pressured into choosing it like some of my friends were. I chose it because I am good at problem-solving and the subjects are just easier for me to grasp. For group science there are two famous occupations in our country. Those are engineers and doctors. I still remember that when I didn't get an A* on my board in 5th grade, my dad was so disappointed that he didn't even go to school to get my marksheet. And when his friends brag about their kid having A* and gifting them expensive gifts he used to be ashamed. And my mom used to tell me how I made my dad ashamed in front of his friends and family. At last in 8th grade the marksheet of the 5th grade board exam was needed and that was when he decided to get the marksheet. I got 100 in English and 95+ in other subjects except one. That subject was BGS where I got 77 marks. If I got those 3 marks I would gotten an A* on my GPA. Then in 8th grade the pandemic started. And at the end seeing that the syllabus was far from being completed the government promoted every student to grade 9 without the board exam. But we were given weekly assignments. Then in 10th grade, the pandemic was coming to an end. And throughout the pandemic, I couldn't study at all. I was lazy and super unproductive. My grades were dropping. But still, I managed to improve my grades slowly. I was happy to see the little progress. It wasn't much but it was a lot for me. But that didn't satisfy my parents. Because for them that wasn't progress. You either get an A* or you are a failure. I never told my progress to my dad. He used to yell at me because of the low grades and didn't see the little progress. So, I stopped sharing my grades with him. I only shared it with my mom. And I have the best mom. She understands me yet she still used to tell me to push harder because she knows how much my relatives will criticize her and me. She was still supportive though. After 3 months of preparation, I took the exam and got the so-called "GOLDEN A*". Those who didn't get the so-called "GOLDEN A*", some even take their own life. I even saw news of some students in 8th grade taking their lives because they couldn't reach society's standards and get "GOLDEN A*". It's so heartbreaking. But I didn't get good marks. So, there was a lower chance of me getting into a good college.[ College is 11th and 12th grade]. And the college I vowed not to get into throughout my whole life my parents made me admit to the college. I can't even blame them for that because Dad became incredibly sick and we were having financial problems. It's not that the college is bad. It's just the environment it has. The teachers are good but lazy. They don't teach much in class except for two or three of the teachers. So, I got a 'C' on the first term exam. You know what's funny, only 12 students passed out of 80. This was only the science department. All of the teachers know me especially the principal. It was a shame when he asked my grade. But I can't even complain. Because two of my friends got an 'A'. I was always being compared to both of them. I still am. I don't know how they got an 'A' but for me, it's quite impossible. Because if I don't grasp the concept Very well I can't write it on the exam paper. When I told my dad that the teachers don't really make us understand the topic and just read the textbook he told me to study for 16 hours on weekdays. I have tuition from 7:50 -9:40am. then classes from --9:40- 1:55 with a 20-minute lunch break. Then I have another tuition. And I reach home at 3 pm. After showering, it's 4 pm and I watch an online lecture do my homework, or do nothing at all because of how tired I am. At 6 pm I study again for 2 hours then have my dinner and study again until it's completed. If I had another online class then I would have to finish everything and sleep at 1-2 am. Even if I didn't have any classes It would still be 1-2am to go to bed.[ I take an online course for all the subjects in college because I don't understand anything the teachers teach if you call it teaching. So, I have even less time to actually study.] I wake up at 6-7 am. And the routine continues. Now I can't even have 6 hours left to study and my dad tells me to study for 16 hours a day. Recently I have been facing burnout. And looking at the syllabus and realizing how far behind I am, I am scared to even start small because of fear of failure. Nowadays I can't even study for 1 hour. I can't even tell any of the teachers I take online classes because then they will start hating me and can't even leave the tuition because then they won't give me enough marks to even pass. They would make you fail. It happened to one of my friends and I am not looking forward to it. For my father and teachers the more time you put in studying the better grades you get. They don't care about my mental health. The fear of failure is rapidly growing inside me. And there is also a consistent comparison. My mom admitted me to this college even after knowing that there was a 99% chance that my grades would decrease. She did that because she belives that I could do well on my own like how I did on my 10 grade board exam. In 2025 after my board exam, the admission preparation will start. For science department students there are only 3 institutions in the eyes of the society. Engineering, medical, and university. The best engineering college here is BUET. Where you have to get 93+ in physics, math, and chemistry to even be able to form an application for the BUET entrance exam. And in medical college, you have to get into the government ones. Dhaka Medical College is the no. 1 medical college in Bangladesh. And Dhaka University is the no.1 university in the country. In the eyes of society if you don't get admitted to the best you are a failure. My life is miserable. There is no routine, no balance. In our country, they don't really give credit to hard work. When I was little everyone used to praise me for my excellent grades and told me I got those grades because of how smart I was. And because of that whenever I get bad grades I just say I am not smart enough and don't even try working hard. All I want to say is that being excessive of everything is bad and doing less is also not good. You should always stay in between. But I guess the society doesn't understand that. I just hope to survive in this curriculum. And thank you, mom, for being the only supportive person in my life and understanding my situation. There is a new curriculum coming and if it is accomplished perfectly the quality of the education will increase. I just hope this one works even though it's not for us but for our juniors. I hope they and my brother will get a better student life with the new curriculum. ( I appreciate you taking the time to read all my rambling. I didn't expect it to make sense because I was just writing all the things I couldn't share with anyone. It's not every student's situation over here, I just shared mine. Some have better situations and also worse situations. If I made any mistake please note that I am human and I am bound to make mistakes and hopefully you will forgive them. Thank you.)
Hi, Your situation sounds really shitty and I hope you'll get better. The Bangladeshi education system sounds quite inhumane. I hope you will make it despite that and that your dad will get healthy again.
As an international animation student who just graduated from a Chinese university last summer, this is all true. We often had to decide between homework, eating, sleeping, and socializing. I often went to sleep 1 hour before I started school at 8 am because I was up all night finishing assignments. Then I would take a 10-20 min break during class to have breakfast around 10 am or 11 am. At lunchtime, I would sleep and then wake up for the afternoon session. When the afternoon class was finished at 5. I would go back to the dorm to relax or eat a snack. We then had elective courses until 9 pm. They have since added more electives to the system and changed the curriculum by adding new courses and teaching courses that were third-year or second-semester second-year courses to second-year students in the first semester.
@@williamnelson2228 Of course, it will. But the goverment doesn't give a fuck. They feed pretty lies to hardworking folks that 100% perfect grades will make them out of poverty, but the truth is, if every high-grade child from poverty will become CEOs and drive in Mercedes, then there will be no distinction between poor and rich people, and many jobs will fade away. Which government, of course, doesn't want, so they put high pressure on folks and feed them these lies while making competition harder and harder, nearly to impossible level, so rich people will stay rich and poor people will stay poor. Some people need to stay in villages, so population won't decline, and some need to crop rice and clean toilets. Unfortunate, bitter, but truth.
One of my teachers in uni who was very strict and one of those "no one ever gets a perfect score from me" kind of teachers, always used to say: "It doesn't matter how well you do in something, there will always be a Chinese kid doing it better somewhere".
You just reminded me of one of my middle school English teachers. She would always tell us to do our work cus if we don't, "a Chinese kid is under our beds waiting to take our spot." As a tween then and even today I think about how she should've really stfu!!!
@@qkun Man, there's so many weird ass teachers out there, it sucks to know that yours isn't an isolated experience (though it should've been of course). I'm literally re-thinking my plan of becoming one at the thought of having to interact with them again, but as an adult lol. Hoping my generation who go on to be teachers (late gen-z) are better.
@@friedrice4015 that's what's even crazier, we're a predominantly hispanic area so most if not all of us in her class were white/ind hispanics (can't guarantee that now). She though, was white. I truly hope no Asian/Chinese student ever step foot in her class through her entire career!
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
When I was at MIT, sometimes classes would post the top 10 students in the class publicly. Almost invariably, it was a Chinese name at the top, sometimes an Indian name. It makes sense given this video.
I myself am an Indian in 10th grade and in my class we are having thing back wards people are competing for not competing send some of them are just lost not knowing what they want to become what career to choose. Is it same for avg 10th grader over in your country ? Like 15 year old not knowing what they want to become
@@siberiam7186As an Indian in 11th grade, I can't answer your question on a global scale, however I can attest to the fact that most people will feel clueless about what to do later in life. Picking the MPC biology group will almost guarantee you an answer from those students, but they all have no clue what the career entails and couldn't give you a rough estimate of salary, fee, what college they're going into etc. As for the "competing to not compete"....10th graders, for all of their rambunctiousness sometimes, somehow manage to do well in their boards (tuiton, revision exams etc.) however they all either pick a commerce group to slack, or they do exponentially worse in 11th grade. It's a domino effect, you see everyone in your class working less harder, teachers don't care about your grade as much as 12th, and parents also loosen the leash. This leads to an average of about 70-80%. It's also been practically confirmed that grades 9 and 11 are harder in terms of curriculum compared to 10 and 12, as portions are optimised and reduced in order to get high percentage rankings in the board exams. If you're looking to pass competitive exams like JEE and NEET though, you need these concepts more than your board marks.
I'm big into anthropology and I really appreciate your videos. It's hard to find English language Chinese cultural analysis that's well laid out and researched.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
well yes, it’s easier for aini to make videos abt chinese society bc (i’m assuming) she’s chinese and lived there. a lot of people like to shy away from subjects that deal with things they aren’t familiar with to avoid offending people.
For most Chinese, the problem is not competition - but inequality in the competition. In college entrance exams, for example, it's 10 times easier to get into a 985 (Chinese Ivy League) university for someone from Beijing than someone from the neighboring Henan/Hebei provinces.
We have a similar problem in the US. A study found that the zip code of a person can be used to estimate their likelihood of success because ultimately the wealth of a neighborhood will determine the quality of education and opportunities people receive
@@Anngrl69 It's similar and not similar. My dad had to move an entire city to a different high school because the one in his area didn't have a single college graduate EVER. Entire relocation by himself living alone and apart from his family. In the US, hard work will get you out of that shitty area you live in because college admissions LOVE TO SEE HARDSHIP. That's why you can see people from impoverished areas get into good universities but not really the other way around. Those places are practically set as in "just attending this place kills your chance". I very much disagree with the "quality of education" you are referring to. Correct me if I'm wrong but to my knowledge in the US growing up in a poor area will mean most of the people in your school won't give 2 fucks about being good and literally go around having orgies, gangb*ngs, doing drugs, and just giving up. I feel it's more the expectation that's placed on them. "You're in a good school, so you better be good" vs "You're in a shit school and everyone around you is shit". P. S That stuff I said was from a roommate I lived with for a year.
@@ethanchen4504they are right about the quality of education being determined by neighborhood wealth. local property taxes fund public schools so poorer neighborhoods will lack teachers, textbooks, quality resources like crayons pencils and computers, good bus coverage, clubs and afterschool programs, and generally be unable to give a student the opportunisties a school in a wealthier neighborhood could. Kids in poorer schools are probably more likely to slack off because the school can't afford to properly discipline them, more students will need to work part time to support their families and yes environment is very important, in psychology it's known that if students perceive that teachers expectations are low for them to succeed and they treat someone like a problem child, that student will internalize those expectations and do poorly compared to someone who's expected to succeed. If everyone around them is doing poorly there's no incentive to succeed, there's also a school to prison pipeline for misbehaving (usually non-white) students. It's quite sad
I'm from Brazil, am 12 years old and I spent my entire year in 2023 trying to get perfect grades and academic success bacause I was jealous of one of my classmates (thank God I got back to my senses). It turns out that full marks (especially in 7th grade, I don't even know what I was thinking) are unecessary. Of course it's amazing to see the results, but it didn't do anything for me. If you focus on things that aren't just school and are also important (competitions, groups, extracurriculars, interactions, etc) and get good grades without killing yourself, it's so much better.
Hi, I'm from Germany and I used to pressure myself and compare myself to my sister when I was your age. My sister always got straight As, she didn't even study much, she's just very intelligent and has an almost perfect memory. Compared to her I felt like a failure (even though my parents didn't even care that much about my grades). Over the years I learned the same lesson as you and started focusing more on my hobbies instead of schools and my grades actually improved in some subjects, because I studied and learned because I was interested in the curriculum and not because I felt like I had to. I'm 17 now and I'll be graduating soon. Best wishes to you from Germany
@@Чаты i gave up on studying, mainly because of adhd/executive dysfunction and procrastination; i have a math igcse in 10 hours, another in 2 days, then i have three mocks on consecutive days next week, yet i really dont give a damn anymore lmao
Sounds like the "lying flat" movement is exactly like the " quiet quitting" in the united States. Big corporations think and act the same no matter the country. When the workers act together in the best interest of the employees, corporations are forced to improve working conditions.
See I come from India and we have much competition too with parents pushing hard,peer pressure of seeing friends succeed, relatives asking you questions about your career in every family function but what I have seen in Korean culture and maybe Chinese culture, the long school hours, long private coaching hours,less sleep that too from junior classes, it's too much. I pushed hard but only in high school until then it was mostly chill. If you're sleeping midnight in like lower grades before middle school, it's bad, it shouldn't happen
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
As a 24 yo who grew up in India, I realise now that the amount of effort I had to put on college entrance examinations and then college itself to get a decent paying job was meaningless. I still have to work more than 10 hours a day, and be available on weekends in case of production failures. It is funny how both our countries keep fighting over icy wastelands and we citizens cheer our side on, despite the fact that we live equally shitty lives and cry ourselves to sleep every night.
The main problem is. If everyone has the same strategy to be successful in life. Then you have high competition and a lot of unsuccessful people that can't help each other later on. But if everyone had different strategies to be successful competition will be lower. Then there will be more successful people from other areas that can exchange value. So the best educated can derive value from the less educated and the less educated found another way for success. Problem in asian countries there isn't status given for other forms of success.
this was pretty scary but also insightful. worst off, i feel like a lot of other countries and places are trying to mimic this work ethic and style because it's seen as the highest standard
Well duh, from capitalistic view it is indeed the desired standard, why do you think some labors have been replaced with autonomous non human systems? And with the booming of AI industry, even more human workforce would be replaced with more automated systems...
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I am Chinese, and what I want to say is not to learn a company system that is different from your own culture. Chinese culture has always encouraged people to work hard. In the eyes of some people in China, hard work may be as happy as your vacation. If your country's culture likes leisure, there should be a company management method that suits your country.
The problem with writing 10,000 words for an assignment that asked for 5,000 words is, as with so much else with success based only on numeric metrics, is that it misses the point of writing an essay. The point of writing an essay should be about communicating information, and what should be measured is the amount of information and quality of communication and not the number of words used. The problem is that quality of communication is not an easily measurable metric so the count of the number of words is used because it can easily be measured rather than the more useful but less easy to measure quality of communication.
Obviously you are NOT a teacher. The limiting of writing assignments is to give the teacher time to actually read and grade the work. Also-schooling is to teach Life Skills like following directions. So doubling what what was "asked" is a fail. Have a Great Day!
@dariushober1506 I think this guy was agreeing with you that writing too much for this essay is not good. Also, why so hostile? There's no need for that.
This video hit pretty hard with me- I hear about Chinese student culture very often as most of my family is in China stuck in the system. My childhood friend has been bedridden for many years now due to the schooling system and I wasn’t able to meet her the time I went back to visit. My other childhood friend is stuck in extracurricular tutoring through all her breaks and instead of hanging out and going somewhere fun when we finally met up again after years, we went to her tutoring session and this was back in middle school where I was spending most of my free time drawing and gaming. I lived in HaiDian (the district mentioned in the video) and honestly I feel lucky to have the chance to move to the States and escaped the system. I was not a bad student in anyway but often I still feel guilty about not working hard like the students back in China. Having parents and grandparents who all graduated from Peking University has honestly made me feel guilty that I didn’t take the same path as my past generations but part of me is glad that I didn’t have to go through the system but my background and family have made me feel extremely guilty about not studying my ass off and overworking myself to the brink of death. My parents have never told me to my face that they think i’m a failure and I don’t think they think I’m a failure but often it’s hard to not compare myself to my cousins and other chinese students overworking themselves.
I remember going to China and living with my uncle. Once he told me to do summer homework with my cousin. 1 week later I finished everything, my uncle didn’t believe me and looked at my Italian text books, saw 2 images and laughed they were books for children, so my cousin “begrudgingly” had to show me his math text books from 2 years ago and teach me what “real” math was.
I am incredibly fortunate as someone Chinese who wasn’t raised in China. I admire my parents a lot, especially my dad. I’m probably biased but I really do think he’s a genius. His logic is incredible and he analyzes things carefully but quickly. He does put some pressure on me (in addition to pressure from myself and my mom) but he helps me alot, explains things to me, and most importantly, explains why for everything. He doesn’t tell me to get into a top college for no reason, he believes that it could offer great resources and experiences and we mostly have the means for it as well. He doesn’t compare me to my friends when I do worse just to make me feel bad but because his logic is, what’s the point of comparing yourself to people who did worse? That will give you nothing except a temporary sense of achievement but you shouldn’t keep sitting on that. If you compare yourself to people who did better than you, you don’t have to feel bad about it but instead use it as motivation to do even better. To improve. Sometimes he seems harsh to me but out of all asian stereotypes and parents I’ve heard of, I dare say my dad is pretty fair. Guys, remember (or at least food for thought): you’re the person who decides how to perceive things. I hate comparison because it can make me feel bad about myself BUT if you can take criticism to improve yourself, that’s great
Your dad sounds amazing, I wish my dad was as cool as yours was for this. My dad was basically the opposite with constantly comparing me to other people. Reading this though is really eye opening, thank you!
im an american who did 996 for a little over a year at a job, i literally felt ground to dust at the end of the day, literaly eat a frozen tv dinner and sleep until the alarm wakes you up, no amount of sleep made you feel rested. The idea that some people do it for years must be insain
This makes me grateful that I'm a Chinese that was born and raised in Malaysia. I don't wanna just study all day. Where is the fun in that? We should enjoy our lives a bit.
@@moustachio05There's no racial segregation. There's first and second class citizen, but it's not bad. If you're a Bumiputra, you're given priorities, but if you're anyone else, you'd be treated just like everyone else in the world. The life of bumiputera and non-bumiputera aren't that much different.
I grew up in China and the competition started as early as elementary school for me. Competing to write more pages for a better homework score was so real that it was getting out of control. I remember having to write a whole play over break in 1st grade just to keep up to the workload. I still remember the countless hours of sobbing through my homework assignments😢😢 And that was ~20 years ago. Can’t imagine how it is for them now. Poor babies 😢😢
Thanks for sharing this. It's a more extreme version of what many of us have experienced. I'm glad people around the world are becoming more aware of these atrocities, thanks to people like you.
A had a lab mate fly from china to study here. We actually had a talk about our school systems while working on a lab paper. I showed how my district was notoriously violent that had him bug eyed. I was also shocked on hearing on how violence wasn't as prominent but yet kids are at the school almost the whole entire day. We joked about how the kids there were too exhausted to have bullying come up but it was still insane.
Fun story, I was really good at math back in school. I lived in that education system mentioned here. The teachers constantly turned down my original approach to a problem and told me to copy the one from the books. Everyone in my class did the same. I refused, multiple times. Got kicked out of the best STEM university in my country. Guess who's working at the big tech now? This system sucks. I felt bad for my classmate that got suppressed to walk their own path. They are the ones who are now living a harder life. Be original, everyone !!! It will pay off
It's not only China, countries like Korea, Japan, Singapore are pretty much the same when it comes to educational systems and work ethics. In fact, Jack Ma of Alibaba used to say: " It's a bless for young people to be able to work at least 6 days a week and 10 hours a day. They should be totally grateful for having the opportunity to live in such a working environment." Not to mention the widely known Japanese social phenomenon of Karoshi (Death from overwork).
Japan is very different. It's not as hard as Korea or China and university here is so chill. Japan had other problems (like any other country) but in terms of study it's very different
I can tell white chrsitians taught them(since they first interact) to make sure they don't have free times because european religions are overwhelmly outnumbered by everybody else who isn't european. Panic effect Christian missionary travelers were responsible for influence the patriarchy system in ancient Dynasty as we know it today. They made sure asian doesn't know anything about this history too via censorship and secretacy
I am a Chinese junior high school student, and I have become accustomed to school life from 7am to 6pm every day. The end of each class is only 8 minutes, while our teacher usually delays the end of class by 5 minutes. In China, homework needs to be done at 8 o'clock, and on weekdays, my parents don't agree with me playing video games, so I have to secretly play for half an hour. I finish my homework on weekends and attend tutoring classes twice a week. I find this kind of life quite tiring.😢
I'm sorry for your circumstance. Please try to find ways to relax as much as possible and when you grow up, try to get away from the things that are not helping live the life you'd like to have. Remember to relax. And if you can't relax, tell whoever is stopping you to fuck off. 😂 Much love from the U.S.A.
Love that you cover China and Chinese society. It's pretty refreshing to have this perspective compared to all the video essayists basically covering what feels like the same Western oriented topics. Looking forward to your next videos!
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I grew up in China, and from a young age, I admired those abandoned children because I always felt that growing up without parents must be such a fortunate thing. When I told my parents these words as I got older, they didn't care.
Portuguese-Chinese here, I had a relaxed education in Portugal, sure my parents did always push me to be better, but never in an abusive way. On the other hand, my wife was raised in China and received the full package of Chinese education. I can say that I'm impressed by her ability to learn, study, and work, it's like she has been playing in a different league.
Video spot on! Thank you for sharing this. Also I'm pretty lucky to avoid this 'involution' which, like expensive low quality sh*t, ain't worth the price. Remember, tho it is important to try hard and do ones best in school but don't let it stop you from discovering new interests, new places and most importantly YOURSELF as a human being not a robot.
I teach in China at the moment and this helped me understand my students' situation a lot, especially the one girl who keeps using that word "involution" in all her essays.
I live in Latin America. Here the culture is not as exploitative as in China or Korea, but the truth is that I went to a top school in my country, and had to work my ass of. Unlike in China, where everyone competes, I was among the few idiots who worked hard at school. Yet, when I reached University, and realized my peers were doing even better than me, I gave up on hard work. I learned a valuable lesson: If it doesn't pay, don't do it, and never give your max. in anything. Back then, I also believed that my life was only worth by grades, and I wasn't the only one (a few of us did believe in this as well).
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
What about the value of self improvement and personal growth? Isn't excellence a habit? If you never do your best, isn't it harder to be a great person?
@@apoptosisduellinks109not really, always doing your best is the best recipe for falling into meaninglessness: who dictates working overtime is the best thing to do? why do it if the only reward is a nebulous self improvement that no one but you cares about? you can't eat out of your gpa
@@wyvern5438A personal sense of fulfillment and satisfaction is critical to a lot of people. It doesn't matter if others can see the feeling itself. It's a part of your mental health.
I came across your channel yesterday and it really broadens my perspective on Chinese 文化. This is really helpful motivation while learning the language. I also enjoy the scientific but down-to-earth approach and unobtrusive humour. 加油！
The comment about students trying to understand and change their answers to agree with the interviewer really hit home. When I was being interviewed for an internship, I would catch myself thinking too hard about what the interviewer wants to hear rather than answering honestly. The way school and competition hammered that I had to please the interviewer and actually doing it was such a disturbing and sobering experience.
“Capitalist (derogatory)” 😂🤣 It’s crazy to me how similar problems happen all over the world. Companies here in the US also try to foster competition amongst workers in order to deflect from them rigging the game to their benefit! I really think that collective action is the answer to that, and I hope more people rise up and see that were stronger together, and are the most formidable together too!
Your white, you dont know what your yammering about. Difference is with America, you can LEAVE. You dont have to deal with post-communist bullshit where you litterally have no choice but to follow the system. Americans can litterally go to community college, amp up their grades, and then transfer. You dont get that with a centralized system like China. You dont get stuff like programming jobs that dont require a degree. Notice how American private schools are almost exactly like Finnish schools. Nothing good comes from central planning, and Americans need to realize the only reason they have it better, is because of libertarianism.
Unfortunately its true,we had a kid from China and they were good with exams,and stuff but when we asked about hobbies he'd replied he didn't have any which surprised us as well as not being able to ask challenging questions or be creative.
honestly in our english literature course, my friend from china is rly good at memorising but i think she was taught only how to memorise but not analyse. so while she studies for hours for the top grade, i got top grades by winging it bc my adhd lets me write essays in a whim. but i always encourage her to take breaks bc i dont like seeing her overwork herself
Damn! I am a Chinese-Indonesian but my mother is a Tiger Mom with such 9-9-6 culture. I played piano by age of 6, ride a bike by age of 4, and now attending engineering studies with straight A scores called by my Peers as As of As-es (Ace of Aces). I do my python programing, eating, doing a static structure analytical study, designing microcontroller while driving, or even while eating at the same too. I find it this kind of culture is toxic and I want to take a break. Sure my GPA is almost 4 in engineering department and everybody called me as "The German Enginerd" because getting A (Ace) is akin to German stereotype while the A addiction becoming like a drug with sprut of dopamine everytime achieving it like how Pervitin works. Turned out my real passion is not in engineering
nah fr, i played piano since i was 5 but i quit at 13 bc the structured lessons killed my passion. i still love writing music and would like to actually release it one day, but then again i have a passion for art/animation and its my dream career
I have worked in Japan and Taiwan, and I've noticed that there is a big difference between the time you spend at work and the actual amount of work you produce. In these countries, it is acceptable to go on social media and even take naps at work. In most of these countries, productivity is abysmal indeed.
Japan isn't as competitive an academic society as China and South Korea, but the number of applicants for private junior high school entrance exams in Japan is increasing year by year, Many Japanese elementary students are busy studying for exams.
i went to japan in 2019 and in the hotel i stayed in there was some students staying there (not sure why) but every morning when i would go down to eat breakfast the students were there in uniform doing school work instead of eating. They were to focused too not a single word would come out of them not would they get distracted
I need to find a good source for information about Asian schools With the child population declining & a greater % going to private school what is happening to public schools?
Omggggg the 5000 word example ( 11:25) just ignighted something in me. In 2019 my mom and I took an english teaching job at Xi'an Jiaotong university, I was her TA. Because the classes were usually of 30 students, she would have them group up and do small presentations asking them to each speak for no more than a minute on topics and whatever. But they would speak for so long and go wayyy over and my mom and I had to emphasis that the time limit is for a reason and them talking for a long time was not impressing us but detracted because they were filling in the time with hot air. To do well you needed to be concise, clear and direct. We were so confused but now I kinda get it
exactly, my friend from china does the same thing, but since our edu system is much more forgiving, she's able to take more breaks. i encourage her to, both consciously + subconsciously and it's actually been working, so i'm glad for that :)
I can't even imagine how much research work went into writing this script. The quality of your videos is always impeccable! Thank you for putting the reference links. PS.: the slightly tilted microphone foam attacked my OCD
Excellent work! Research and professionalism are great as always, but what I'm most struck by is how much better you are at presenting the information. You've greatly improved on camera in a very short amount of time. The editing as well is better every time. Just wanted to give you that little encouragement. This amount of growth as a video essayist in this short a time-span is very impressive. 👍🏼
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I'm a government scientist with a good union salary and amazing benefits. I always freely tutored my peers because I like helping people. I would have never survived under that level of competition. I always rebelled under pressure. Putting the people who got through this system at the top is a good way to reinforce the system.
I had a student online who is an only child. She said, it would've been so nice to go back to her chilldhood bcoz she doesn't need to think about looking for better paying jobs, paying for everything, just adulting. But, she quickly changed her mind and decided that, No, it wouldn't be worth the constant badgering of her parents for her to study more to become the best in her grade. She said it seemed she didn't have time to relax and play when she was young. Even when she has a job at present, her parents insists she has to apply for a master's program even at the cost of losing her present job. She actually failed to get on the master's program at first, but her parents heard that one of their daughter's friend passed the program, so she might also pass the second time around. This resulted to her mom and dad calling her almost every day to urge her to apply for her master's program. I actually feel bad for her
I have felt this same way, and I’m studying within the much more toned down American system. I know a Roomate who grew up in China and she couldn’t tell me any hobbies or vacations she had. She struggles even now in her mid 20s to have a sense of identity outside of academics and work.
You are so good at organising your thoughts and injecting them into impactful words. I am in awe. Started following you recently and have already grown attached to all your videos. I clicked on this video as soon as it popped up in my notification.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Wow. Just when I thought I was having college troubles. I passed everything I signed up for. But no one was forcing it in my direction. This inspired me. I've always studied other cultures and some of them really do have a more harsh education system than most. I feel weak for having ever felt tired and stressed.
It reminds me of a video posted by South China Morning Post about a doctor who repeatedly passed out from exhaustion on his way to work. Most comments, including the video were praising his determination and sacrifice when I was like: .... wtf??? I wouldn't like to be operated by someone who can pass out on me! Get some sleep please! More time of work ≠ more quality work done. Humans have their limits and favorable conditions of working. I bet all those students could learn just as good in shorter time if they weren't stressed, exhausted and overworked. And definitely they could be able to work for 40+ years instead of being hospitalized in their 30s. This is so sad.
It's shocking how strongly the 996 affects chinese culture and it's scary how the competitiveness has caused it to be almost embraced by workers, I hope this attitude shifting will cause work culture to change to something much healthier and the education system too. Btw, you look great in this video, good work on the vid.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg As someone living in the U.K, I've never noticed the way a teacher would lead you to make your own answer, when a student would ask if a question was right, they'd respond by asking them if they thought it was. I don't know where the roots of this exam-oriented ideas came from, but I do remember hearing of an exam to become a beauracrat involving the studies of confucian teaching and other similar things, and so maybe this focus was absorbed into the education, which then prioritised exams and big tests to determine skill.
When I went to uni in Australia, if you went more than 10% over (or under) the word limit on essays you be heavily penalized because it showed that you don't listen to instructions and can't write concisely.
@@Matthew_Ssalisuch bullshit. Sorry for being passionate, caring about the subject and doing my research. Profs ask for that then dock you for it. Guess they want you to try but not really?
@@evapaiz596 I was graded a whole grade down for making a video essay 20 secs over the limit(film course).I was also graded down for not being detailed enough but I had to shorten the video (which made it less detailed) to fit within the limit.Either way I lost faith in the legitimacy of the "Higher-Education" system for non-STEM&Professional courses a while back the whole system is B.S and people play along.
The word count thing is so wild to me because in America you often lose points for failing to follow directions and be concise, because if you need all those extra words to explain then you did a bad job explaining/don't understand the topic well. And we prioritize doing as you're told as quickly and quietly as possible, no modifications
Great video, I live in the United states and the competition here for college is not as intense as it is other countries. I have seen a similarity in the idea of Involution in the tech industry here, at the moment, landing a tech job is highly competitive due to the nature of an oversupply of coders. The pressure to stand out has raised the standards for technical questions to a level not seen before. Every coder knows these questions are ultimately useless in your actual job but in an effort to get the job, one has to answer and study hundreds of questions. Either way, it's at no level comparable to the Chinese exams so I'm grateful for that.
writing double the word count is crazy!! i do a pretty rigorous academic program and word counts are STRICT, the examiner will stop reading whatever you wrote above the limit and mark you based on what they’ve already read. the teachers are creating more work for themselves by allowing that to happen.
I love how this video is just the speaker and her well-structured talk. No distracting effects or music, just pure content. As an Asian, I can relate to the message personally and found myself engaged from beginning to end. I hope to see more great videos like this in the future!
You mentioned the foreign textbooks being banned and no online foreign tutors as indicative of China not wanting foreign influence but it was also sold to Chinese people as a way to reduce the burden on parents and students. Almost all after school training centers have shut down or reduced hours as the gov declared no weekend classes and all personal tutors must be registered. Ironically this still made parents anxious that their kids could fall behind and places the burden on schools and their teachers to prepare students for the zhongkao and gaokao. There’s still tutoring happening under the table, however this will definitely weaken student skills. We’ll see in a few years how the gov’s gamble pays off but many people feel it was intentionally done to create a bigger blue collar working class, something that had slowly been disappearing due to the amount of students attending 4 year colleges and not willing to work for low pay
I think it's meant to strengthen equality of opportunity. Competitive studying is a zero sum game but the winners still win and they win by spending a lot of money on the best private tutoring. The government is still socialist and doesn't want to allow the formation of a permanent underclass.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields. Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination. After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework. Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Not everyone can be CEOs, Engineers, Lawyers or Doctors. Some people are needed as garbagemen, mechanics and paramedics. South Korea has 73.8% college education rate but most of them cannot get the jobs they want and become drowned in household trying to compete. What should be done is shift public preceptions about blue collar vs. white collar work and encourage more people to take positions with trade skills by providing more respect and better pay.
As someone who grew up in Europe, I've had it easy with only 6-7 hours of school per day, only 5 days a week but it still got me exhausted, so I can't even imagine how terrible is to have classes 17 hours a day.I would be dead after the first day of school in China, so on the other hand, I admire how Chinese students are so strong to survive through such a gruesome education regime.
yeah same, I'm already struggling with workload and society's expectations here, I don't think I would have survived the Chinese system...
Yeah I always feel bad for complaining about working 8 hours knowing what people in Asia have to out up with.
I need work in my life. Sitting home all days sounds boring.
But a good work life balance is key.
If I worked 12 hours like some do I wouldn't have time to do anything and would see my physical and mental health take a nose dive.
Yeah, I can't understand how they can survive.🙃
man, you were lucky... I'm getting as much, as 11 hours of school a day. I'm still not having it as bad, as the Chinese but it's tough
Humans are, by nature, a very resilient animal with great adaptability. I am also from Europe, and I don't know how much time it would take for the 996 system to make me insane but I think I would just give up before it happen.
My company just implemented a 32 hour work week and productivity actually increased. It turns out having a day for errands and time off really helps you focus the other 4 work days.
bro what company is this bc i wanna work where u work so bad 😫😭
Please, do share:) ?
Everyone's different. I used to work the maximum overtime they'd allow, then work more even though I wasn't getting paid. I loved working and putting in 10-14 hour days, even though the max they'd pay me for was 10 or 11 if I remember correctly. As long as I had one day off a week, I was good.
@@fuzzypanda1684thats straight up illegal btw.
@@epicow_1973 I know, but back then you could get away with it easier. My manager knew I did it, but not many other people did.
My wife grew up in poverty in China, yet now she lives in America and makes $175,000 a year as a 35-year-old executive. By all objective measures, she is wildly successful, given her impoverished upbringing. And yet, all her parents do is criticize her and tell her she isn't good enough. They lament that my wife does not make seven figures, despite the fact that my in-laws made $10,000 a year as factory workers before they retired.
The school my wife attended had 2,000 students, and I would guess that my wife is more successful than 99% of her peers. However, her parents constantly complain about my wife not making enough as their friend's daughter, a former classmate of my wife's who went on to marry a millionaire man 20 years her senior. That's it, that's the single person in her graduating class who's done better in life than my wife, yet all my in-laws do is compare my wife to her. They don't compare her to the 99% of former classmates struggling to get by in the 996 culture. They don't compare her to the former students making 20 or 30 thousand dollars year, which most of them are.
Her parents' behavior has caused tremendous emotional damage to my wife's mental health, including severe depression. There's a very good reason we don't raise our kids the same way that she was raised. What is the point of raising a financially successful child if the methods you used make it impossible for them to enjoy their lives?
It sounds like your wife is so lucky to have you, she sounds like a lovely hard working person. Im so sorry her parents do not see her in the right light :(
You should set your in laws in their place, that's no way for your wife to be treated by anyone.
Sometimes you need to stand up to your parents for your life choices it really helps
Yeah, my spouse has parents like this, and so do I, despite us each making good money. We have to keep our contact with them minimal. It's wreaked havoc on our minds
@@liptoncunningham6666 as long as you don't blame yourselves for something you could've never changed.
I'm guessing they're both mainlanders? It would explain their highly aggressive judgement, and maybe they went through the same pressures though it isn't an excuse.
As a foreigner studying in a Chinese high school, I'm really grateful that the problems surrounding Chinese study and work culture is coming to light. When I first came to China in middle school, as a high achiever, the drastic difference in the amount of effort I had to put in for a reasonable grade or even slight recognition within my courses came as a shock. The weight of inadequacy was unbearable. While in other Countries I'm seen as the "perfect" student, here it just isn't enough. I still remember my first month here, struggling to stay awake in classes, waking up in literal sweats every night, and then I would look at the life of my friends in my home country. They really don't know how lucky they are. I mourned the life I could of had. Things I had considered as little quirks of teenage hood had become the objects of my aspiration. To have free time and hang out with friends outside of school is just something you don't do here. By some miracle, and a lot of hard ass work, I got through to the second highest rated high-school in the country. All things considering, you do get used to it. My life has been reduced to a haze of sleepless nights and long hours spent at a desk but at least It's not as bad as it was. Me and my classmates get on average about twenty hours of sleep in a week. I go to school at 6:00am and come home after 9:00pm just to do more school work and homework, and that's not even that much compared to other students. A lot of my friends and classmates get home after twelve due to extra classes, eca's and tutoring. This system and it's students are broken and I've had to watch myself get sucked into the toxic grind culture that surrounds me and I just can't escape. My parents ask why I can't just take a break, they don't seem to understand THAT I LITTERALY CAN'T.
I´m sorry but why don´t you move to your home country than?
Damn, that sounds terrible. Hang in there, I hope you are close to finishing school. I had 8 hours of lessons every day + studying after and it was terribly exhausting, I can’t even imagine living like this.
Schooling systems in general should take into consideration the physical and mental health of their students, a lot of people have burnout already as children, it’s preposterous.
I’m rooting for you though! ✨
And all this for... what ?
It only makes people less daring to be creative and original. There's a huge difference between working hard and working hard without meaning.
I am studying Mathematics, which is one of the most difficult university courses and literal no one expect you get perfect grades because just passing the test is already difficult (it's not impossible, but it's like expect someone to play perfectly Piano in the first month).
Lowering grade expectations helps you see how much you have improved and also to take more risks knowing that it is not the end of the world if it does not turn out "perfect" (so that you cultivate your creativity). 🧠✨️
So now the west is fighting China by convincing their smart kids to not learn as much as they do so they don’t succeed the west? 🤣 the information w -ar is so humiliating. Don’t even try because the Chinese will keep learning stop your manipulations keep them to your own people where u convince them of alcohol and all kinds of sexual stuff that helps reduce their numbers by fatal sexual diseases that you very well know linked with your Pride topic 😉
Man literally same except at some point I realized I didn’t care enough to kill myself trying to achieve something that I really didn’t care that much about and when I tell you how difficult it was going from the over achiever to so blatantly average 😭😭
In my school and university, if you write an essay with MORE than 5 thousand words if the teacher set that mark, he will grade you with a 0 for not following instructions. It happened to me.
Yes. I was thinking that in a lot of unis, the excessive writers would be heavily penalized. I know the emphasis has been on clarity and concise expression at the universities I've been involved with.
We get 10% leeway and after that you'll get deductions on your grade
Yes, the only way to alter this is disallow and penalize overwork essentially.
Sorry, bud, but your teacher sounds based.
Also it's extra work for the teacher, and increasing their workload may start impacting your's and your fellow classmate's learning.
Exactly, same here in Australia! We have the -/+ 10% rule here. Write over 10% more or fewer words than the word count you're given and you'll be penalised and given a lower grade, depending on how far you went over/under the limit. Honestly, writing more than the teacher asks just encourages fuckin' rambling. Being concise with your writing is a valuable skill, and this was driven into me in both high school and uni.
I have a Chinese friend who has a lot of great academic achievements, but she told me about the study culture in China. She didn't have a childhood or teenage hood, it was just studying and sleeping and repeat, she'd go to school for 14 hours and then come home and study until 2 am. She was miserable, and as a result became a workaholic, constantly stressed out of her mind that she wasn't working hard enough at her PhD even though she worked 70 to 80 hour weeks.
I will always remember when she told me that she was ranked second in her entire grade ( of like a 1000 students) and her mother scolded her for not being 1st.
wow. Parents can be pretty cruel. She worked so damn hard just so her parents would accept her and they wouldnt even acknowledge her.
@@BlunderBuns Chinese culture has always encouraged people to work hard. If a Chinese rests for too long. Chinese culture can make people feel guilty, such as I should continue to work hard and so on.
@@haochengzhai7156 That's toxic beyond belief. Witnessed it first hand with a relative. The only thing that this breeds is resentment and frustration instead of excellence. Let's say you become very proficient at passing exams, after that you'll have to work having LESS skills than other peers since school tests are required only there and you've just became a super expert in passing them (or memorizing massive amounts of trivial knowledge that has little application, instead of actually learning to understand complex knowledge).
@@azmodanpc There is no way because China is a fair society, not a society where you can buy your way in. The best schools in China admit you based on your grades, not whose son you are, alumni. The West doesn't have so much pressure. Maybe they can go to private schools and it doesn't matter whether they do well or not, but not in China.
Yes thats why a 20+ year old chinese have 0 understanding of things outside their bubble. It's sad yes. No world view , just pumping content robot style
I work in a chemistry lab and a couple of years ago we had someone from China who was used to the 669 schedule. At first everyone praised her for her productivity and work ethic. However over time it became apparent that she was so used to working in the lab that she had no personal time to develop critical thinking and other things outside the lab that would help you become a more well rounded chemist. She had terrible social skills and struggled to communicate what she wanted. She felt like if the more she worked, the more people would recognise her and give her a promotion. But the higher ups thought she was just good as a lab rat and so let her stay that way. She then became disillusioned and felt “invisible”, especially since the people who had work-life balance seemed to be happier and better chemists overall and so she ended up quitting. Last I heard she is working in a different lab.
That’s so sad omg
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She should have stayed in China, there her sense of value would be understood and rewarded. There, she would be promoted for her hard work and would not collapse as you said. She might as well stay in China if she can't adapt to a totally different value system.
@@Super_Mario_EsqDoubt it. If she was doing 996, she likely didn't come from a prestigious family nor develop the guanxi to overcome her lack of social inheritance.
Very familiar story, I see that a lot also with Indian and Malay colleagues.
My friend at my university specialization is from China. She is many miles better a student than I am, I am very average but I do like doing my own little projects on the side. She eventually got curious about the hackerspace i was participating in, so when I first started getting to know her outside of school I will never forget one of the things she said to me:
"You are so curious about everything, it makes me wonder how many years of my life I hadn't lived because I wasn't allowed to feel that"
wow
hey, i hope you've been doing better since
screenshoted. beautiful quote.
@user-yj8zw7hk6ftq for the beautiful comment
so sad I was about to cry 😭😭
I did my bachelors degree in China, you could even think the Chinese students were like robots. When you go to the library you could hear most if not all reciting the books, just cramming the whatever is in the books. There is no thinkin outside the box, just whatever is inside the books. Speaking to a number of proffesors, most were praising foreign students about how inquisitive we were and social with the faculty. Some said they could go weeks without students asking questions in class. It was really an eye opening experience
Sadly, this is one of reasons why Asians in the West hit the "bamboo ceiling" and rarely, if ever, become executives in non-Asian companies.
Yes as a foreigner in China, this is exactly what I experience at work all the time. Great degrees but 0 practical or outside the box thinking. All-in-all a Chinese pump content degree says shit. Just memorizing thats all
@@als8627 Thinking out of the box do not always useful and memorizing sometimes can be help. It needs to be balance in everything.
@@bunnyfreakzYes they complement each other, but purging one or the other, I'd say innovation and creativity more so, does students a great disservice
Jokes on you my dad taught foreign students, and he spoke terribly of them. This may not apply to you, but he said he'd give them worksheets and assignments to make them feel useful because they lacked so much knowledge and didn't work as hard.
Even though I escaped from the system by coming to Germany 5 years ago and now working at a German company, I still can't stop thinking to push myself further and improve myself constantly as the whole involution idea is so deelpy embedded in my brain that I need to be better. Fortunately, the general working environment in Germany doesn't encourage working overtime and emphasizes emoployee mental health and work-life balance, which allows me to rethink what I really like and want to do in my life. Although this toxic thinking of involution comes back and forth, I am working on getting over it.
hope you get better!
Ich bin sehr froh darüber, dass dir Deutschlehrer gut tut. Als jemand der hier aufgewachsen ist, ist es schwieriger zu sehen, dass man es hier doch sehr leicht hat. Ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg!! :)
Yeah, in a German company, you would get in trouble by your boss if you didn't take your vacation and or have to much overtime.
When I moved from China to Germany 10 years ago, I enjoyed the Privilege of doing so as a German. I could not have expected in which ways China was going to change for the worse from then.
Among my Friends I experience more issues getting Americans to comply with our working environment and work-life-balance than Chinese. With the latter it is something involuntary as you described. With the former the mindset is that they will stick to their work habits, continue to do more hours, and just defraud on the time measuring system to not show all the hours and comply on paper.
-9999999 social credit
Growing up in Taiwan, I remember during elementary school the teacher would show us everyone grades and their rank in the class, the top student would get some sort of prize and the last 3 students would get ridiculed and humiliated, they were trouble kids and most likely suffered from ADHD or some learning disability. Also it was very normal for my neighbors and parents friends randomly ask for your grades and class rank, I would just lie and say 10 or 12th instead of 20th because of the pressure.
Its sad that almost everyone sees this insane competition and abuse of children as normal. Its sad how the world can take a pure baby and only think how can we squeeze as much productivity out of this life as possible? Hope you made it through school with your self worth intact
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
亚洲教育学生压力大，其实是应试教育害的。应试教育的特点就是，过于注重考分，各种考试分数。而不是综合评分。所以学生会花大量时间做考题，因为考试的分数决定了一切。这么说好像有些人很难理解，因为在大部分受应试教育的人面前，考试分数很重要，是一件理所当然的事情。可事实并非如此。但如果不以考试分数为标准，那又该是什么呢？ 你可以参考一下西方的教育理念。不过在此之前，你一定要搞清楚，应试教育和教学方式，是不同的概念和领域。
应试教育仅仅强调的是以个人考分为重点。而教育方式则是强调 以何种模式教育学生，比如西方普遍的个性化交易，老师更多的是引导大家去学习如何自我思考。老师会经常问你”你自己是怎么想的”，而不是给你一个标准答案。要的就是让学生独立思考，并且要求学生清晰的表达自己的论点，来支撑自己的个人观点。因此，老师并不在乎答案是否 绝对正确。而这种教育的反面，就是死记硬背，灌输式教育。
说完了教学方式和应试教育的区别。我们回到原来的话题，应试教育的另外一种改变方式是什么？ 那就是学生的综合评分。什么是综合评分？比如说在美国，你的最终的科目分数是由：（比例只是我用来举例的方式，不要太纠结）分数的15% 是课堂执勤率+30%家庭作业完成度+30%学末考试分数+25%的所有其他考试。并且，老师还会允许你用多做作业的方式来临时增加5-10%的学分。
在这种教育制度下，你不需要当心你的考试分数不高，而得不到好的学分。因为你有很多可以弥补的方式。这样你就不会那么内卷，学业压力也就小了。所以我才说，亚洲教育压力的问题实际上是 太注重考分的结果。
和社会就业难，没有直接关系。因为就业难对于学生而言是，如何考入好的大学。
而，不以考试分数为重点的教育体系，会让你免于沉重的学习压力，也能考上好的大学。
@@BlunderBuns China's Taiwan Province
在下民國74年生，所經歷的教育環境與您差不多，但是並非重點學校，拚台清交的壓力沒這麼大。但是課業落後的學生的確得不到更多的關注，反而是成為班級甚至師長霸凌的對象。
我個人認為這是漢人崇拜科舉制度所造成的，萬般皆下品唯有讀書高。帝堯聽聞鄉里間有一個人在父母過世時異常悲痛，眼睛都哭出血來了，認為這個人很孝順，所以讓他當官。鄉里的其他人聽聞此事蹟，便仿效此人，也要在自己雙親過世時嚎啕痛哭，目的就是希望也能被舉薦為大官。
一個人的能力與價值不是可以從單方面來判斷的，但是一些不可信的遠古故事卻讓整個民族陷入透過成為賢能而達成階級提升的功利目的。所謂的普世價值變成為了利益而服務，這樣的普世價值失去了真誠作為基礎，成為了演戲的一部分，這也是漢民族的文化禮儀本身就是建立在虛偽之上，所以那些禮節看來特別可笑。
文字是很有限的載體，我也不奢望能讓他人理解，畢竟緣是強求不來，需要的是適當的時機。
我只做簡單的結論。
解方的一部分就是：一，真誠(毋自欺、如惡惡臭，如好好色)。二，自謙(在真誠的前提下自己對自己滿意)。三，慎獨(如十目所視，十手所指，俗話說的舉頭三尺有神明也是這個意思，就會對自身行為謹慎。)
這三點只是修養個人以及如何面對手上的權力。
對於社會，簡單說就是信任。信任是建立在真誠與理性之上，有了真誠沒有理性，只是鄉愿而已，人云亦云，不自己思考。有理性沒有真誠，就是聰明的歹徒，一切就是利害關係的計量，只要價碼合適，自己的妻兒都能賣掉，何況陌生人呢？
對於自我的人生追求，簡單說就是去探索"我"，更深入就是解答三大問題，我是誰？從哪來？到哪去？三個問題分別代表存在、根源、歸宿。
所以說文字是非常落後的載體，乘載有限的資訊，並且容易失真。
My ex's sister had a nervous breakdown from the university entrance exam. She was in a hospital in Fuzhou on a floor for other kids who had broken down from studying for the same test.
what does a nervous breakdown like that look like? is it physical?
I'm sure it varies but I wasn't aware of any physical symptoms, just psychological.
High stress situations can present itself physically and/or psychologically depending on how the person is handling a certain amount of stress. Either way, they were in the hospital for a reason@@ambiguousness
(Chinese freshman)Though I haven't gone through misery like that, that university entrance exam failure still leaves trauma in me.
@@ambiguousness Yes, it's very physical. People can die due to the stress of a nervous breakdown because your heart can literally give out under bad conditions and stress. You can have a stroke/heart attack/etc.
A teacher living in Haidian, I have to say it must be one of the most intense places on the planet. It's heartbreaking to hear a six-year-old tell you how excited they were when their mother was quarantined due to the pandemic, just so they could get a break from their weekend classes. I struggle to convince the how this practice is really counterproductive, the diminishing returns on constant expensive tutoring should be obvious when you're sacrificing your child's mental health. Really loved the video, happy to have discovered your channel!
It’s honestly ridiculous and any appeal to traditional philosophy betrays the average Chinese’ ignorance towards our own heritage.
It’s just capitalism, and drinking all the cool-aid associated with it. Ironically Chinese people might be the most thirsty drinkers of it with the highly imbalanced cultural exchange with America and the West during Reform and Opening up. Taking it way farther than even Westerners are able to stomach because they have wealth to actually develop a culture on what is actually important in life.
thats really messed up for a 6 year old to say that:(
I was an elementary schooler in Haidian about 17 years ago and hearing what kids go through nowadays makes me shudder... I remember going to weekend schools for essay writing, Olympics maths, English etc, and I also got in a prestigious weekend school at 人大附中 where I barely understood what was going on and just read novels under my desk instead. I thought I had it bad compared to my friends in the states but when you compare it to what kids do now, I was basically slacking off.
Kids in Haidian might be speaking fluent english like some eu/na locals, but what's the ****ing point, just for showing off and competition in future
I was a HaiDian 新东方 teacher and I worked 8am-10pm-7days a week, 8 10 7? lol I was miserable. Burnout after burnout, get sick every season. But all jobs are like that, capitalistic bosses expect workers to overwork and pay minimal payment. At least I got paid, after quitting and going to smaller establishments sometimes I didn't even get paid, but I got experience and moved on to another establishment, with experience I got another job that paid somewhat. That's how I survived through the pandemic teaching kids at small establishments. Now I'm working for another large company again 小站。
I think it's very telling that when the isekai genre first came into prominence, the protagonist usually died due to a car accident and was then reincarnated in a fantasy world where they basically became a Shonen protagonist. In countless modern isekai, the protagonist is dying due to overwork because of an abusive company. Then, when they reincarnate into their new world, they instead aim to live a slow, relaxing life to make up for what they missed out on in their previous life. That right there is a scathing critique of the modern-day workplace in Asia
I like shield hero btw
@@caim3465L take
And often, they start their own business and get friends, beating the evil characters who had success from the start. I bet it’s because of the “cog in a machine” feeling, that you can’t do anything.
Agreed with those Isekai MCs
After watching this video and seeing this comment. I feel like I get why there is so much demand for those types of stories. I'm personally bored to death with them, but now I'm way more sympathetic to the types of people who might enjoy them.
I met a korean girl that ended up leaving the country due to the exact grind detailed in this video. What struck me is just how socially accepted that kind of behaviour is, she said that she was effectively peer pressured into staying at school after classes to study so that she didn't give the impression of being lazy. Even after landing a job at Samsung she still didn't feel satisfied with her life, realized that her problem was the society she lived in and decided to leave.
as someone with adhd + executive dysfunction, i could never keep up with a system like that. i wonder what happens to others like me but in china, i hope it's not too bad for them :[
The comment about the 4 year old's English vocabulary hit me... I taught some Chinese students online from the UK. One was eight, and was basically impossible to keep focussed because he was, well, eight. The parents seemed to have picked me as a teacher because I use story-based methods that are more fun and engaging for kids, but then after each class the mum would complain that he didn't speak with complex enough vocabulary and grammar - as if a native speaker 8-year-old would be talking like a university student!
I also taught a 14-year-old boy who lived in Beijing who had amazing English. He could easily read novels in English. It seemed to me a complete waste of time for him to be taking after-school classes when he could just read books and watch films in English. And his parents also seemed to think his level wasn't good enough.
EDIT: Just reached the part about foreign tutors being banned. I had no idea this happened. IIRC I was teaching these kids in 2020 and maybe early 2021 through italki, which is a Chinese company.
Brah!
sounds like my parents lmao. they had a three year trying to learn three languages - English, mandarin, and canto. it ended with me being fluent in mando and eng, and understanding canto pretty well, but unable to speak
honestly would i be considered lucky as an asian who doesnt have strict parents? in fact theyre completely fine with me pursuing an art career and completely abandoning those academic subjects after graduating school lol
@@Jade.the.Government extremely i would say. Most want stem type topics and you wanting an art career and them saying yes to me sounds like they have given up on u (honestly not to sound rude). Besides, my parents scoffed when I chose music for gcse but half minded when I said I’d be choosing English. I guess I got the halfway point then.
@yuls_minki well they always compliment the animations + art I make so idk, ive wanted this since I was 9
Girl, I resonated with this video so much. I'm indian and we have similar shit here too. There are these extremely competitive exams (JEE and NEET). Because students are highly discouraged from taking career paths that are 'unconventional' ie literally everything that isn't doctor/engineer, many students take these exams due to external pressure.
bruh you guys actually have an academic exam called the NEET?
@@nunyabiznes7446 yea national eligibility entrance test. It's for medical schools.
@@nunyabiznes7446 Ironic
That's ironic because some indians seem very proud of having very difficult exams that are designed to get rid of as many people as possible.
@@Silversubs29078 Some people are surprised because they think of NEET in Not Employed in Education or Training. That would be the opposite of hard work in school.
To me, the assignment example is really strange! If the professor asked for a 2000 word essay and we turned in a 5000 word essay, we would fail the assignment lol. In my Uni (in Australia), every 10% we go over the word count, there's a 10% penalty.
I thought so too! I'm in Aus too with a uni that has the same rule. What uni professor would have the time to grade papers like that as well?? It's ludicrous
@@Anastasiya13J19 Yeah, I definitely would not read a paper like that lol. Are you at UniMelb by any chance?
@@bluebelle_thenerd Nah I tried for UniMelb but ended up at Monash for being a tad too lazy for a good atar lol. It was fine though, I graduated anyways 👍
@@Anastasiya13J19 no worries, Monash is lovely too!
another aussie here, I'm in year 8 and pretty happy to say I don't feel the pressure from our system atm, I'm glad my school is one of the better ones thatprioritises mental health over work and that I'm surrounded by dumbshit white boys that make me look like a child prodigy in comparison.
I definitely think we should be moving towards a socialist market though, just because china is worse doesn't mean we can't be better.
I went to elementary school in China until grade 2. Chinese elementary schools have 6-8 year olds learning multiple step algebra and kids are expected to do homework for hours after school which starts at 7.30am and ends at 5pm. Most (like 99%) of families send their kids to tutoring/online classes from basically the moment you're born. From my experience, my teachers would send test results back to all the parents in the class groupchat and it included rankings and sometimes the teacher would make snarky comments about kids who are ranked low.
During lunch breaks we are not allowed to go outside. You have to clean the classroom and if you're really young (like 1st graders), you have to sit there and read something educational like a textbook (I once got yelled at when I was 6 or 7 for reading a picture book lol).
I remember being made class captain for the day and the other kids had to seek permission from me for literally everything. Someone dropped their eraser and had to ask me to let them pick it up-
Also i swear every teacher acts like high school bullies: i remember lining up in front of the classroom and our teacher was joking with another teacher about kids being so dumb etc. The other teacher kicked one of her students. Not like a really hard kick, just to scare him. The student (who was in 2nd grade probably) flinched and they laughed so hard at him and then they both went around mime kicking/hitting ppl for a couple minutes before the bell rang. They also knew to only pick on kids with poorer backgrounds so I was never physically harmed because my family were relatively better off (my school was in an a area with different social classes because it was still being developed but I believe it has become more of a middle/higher middle class area now) which was why we were able to move to another country.
And some more specific things I remember doing in class:
-There was an exercise were 2nd graders had to answer 10 multiple step algebra questions within 2 minutes. The punishment for not getting every single one right is to copy the question the did wrong and the answer 60 times.
-One guy in my class failed a math test (pass grade is 60% iirc) and had to copy down the ENTIRE PAPER THREE TIMES. It was a double sided A3 paper. this was in grade 2 btw.
-One parent told out teacher that she's giving out too much homework and she got the poor kid to stand in front of the class and tell him that he'll never get into a good school, he's stupid and incompetent etc etc and the rest of the class had to agree with her in unison.
-For some reason some teachers could cancel our electives?? Like the class would score low on a test on average and the math teacher would call the music teacher and just tell her the class has lost their music privledges and will be doing double math instead of music???
To conclude this is just my personal experience but i have heard stories from my Chinese friends that their tutors hit them with metal rulers and gave them even more work that school did which caused them to work past 12am (and these are people who left china before 5th grade). And I lived in Beijing so idk what it's like in other places. Obviously I didn't go past 2nd grade there so I can't speak to the experiences of high-schoolers/uni students/young adults in China.
There is a phrase I've heard a lot of Chinese parents use that basically translates to "losing at the starting line" which they use to justify sending their young kids to tutoring death camps so some food for thought ig anyways sorry this was so long.
Wow 😳
Spot on. Teachers r the worst bullies.
I also attended primary school back in China up until grade 4. And I can tell you they put insane amount of pressure on kids. I was only a few years old and I was forced to do homework until 11pm, only to wake up at almost 7am and go to school until 5pm. When I first moved over to Australia, the school system was like heaven in comparison except I couldn't speak much English and was teased by other students because of it. I don't think I would've been able to handle the high school years in China.
Oh my god. I hope you feel ok after those traumatic experiences as a child. Everything you mentioned was horrifying and it was a good thing I didn't have to experience that.
I AM FLABBERGASTED. Now I feel bad complaining for Indian’s education system. It’s ruthless here too but the Chinese go way above and beyond.
I went to an afterschool art program in China and what I saw was incredibly astonishing. The art displayed by the middle and high school students were absolutely incredible! In fact, you might think many of these young students had graduated art school already, however they all looked as if they were created by the same singular artist! Not much personality, yet extremely skilled! It was somehow a little eerie.
Unfortunately, most art schools in China only teach students on how to draw that would please the examiners and earn a high mark. I once saw a video of an art teacher showing their students work, which he then promptly showed a drawing which is kind of similar to caricature, with the woman in the drawing having really exaggerated features and expressions. You can tell the drawing is really well made and the student is also really skilled in his craft. But the teacher berated the drawing, saying if the student thinks it's funny or special for drawing like this, and this kind of drawing will only get them a really low mark. The comments under the video are also divided, with a lot of netizens thinking the drawing is really unique and well done, while others ( mostly so called 'art students') criticise the artist saying drawing like this won't get them to college, and that they are just wasting their parents money with this kind of artwork. I found it quite funny how most of the 'bad' comments didn't criticise the art, but rather focus on not scoring a good mark instead.
i don't think that's a problem, if you're learning from a master it's very common to do master studies or copy the master's style , that is to learn the fundamentals. once you leave that process then you will try to integrate other influences and develop your own artistic look. not saying China doesn't have these problems described by the video or by thread creator, just for the topic of art, all students making the same looking pictures isn't necessarily a problem.
Lol reminds me of the soviets when it came to chess and art.
I’m terrified of art schools in China because they run that thing like a military camp 😭.
@@catstalker8218 i guess i know what art school to not go to, since my dream career is a full-time animator with an exaggerated art style (shown in my pfp lol)
What’s interesting is as an American I’ve actually experienced this phenomenon working *in reverse.*
You plan on doing your best on an assignment, then look to your right and left and seeing the other kids cutting corners. Over time you realize that it’s unnecessary to give 100% effort because even with 50% of what you’re capable of, youll still be slightly above average. So you slack. Which in turn prompts those around you to slack. And before you know it, you’re in a classroom of kids that have failed to meet the standards, so the tchrs lower their standards to compensate. Honestly the reverse phenomenon is just as bad-it can slow the progress of society as a whole (though luckily, this doesn’t happen in *every* classroom of course. It’s present but hasn’t yet taken over)
I rather half ass it and have a life.
THIS IS SO REAL SAME
Honestly, what should be encouraged is to learn to love books, learn how to read books, and learn how to learn books for personal and community growth.
@@wacaysjibril3595you can work hard and also have a life. The american dream was never about being half assed and enjoying life. You get what you work for
this is hilariously true
I remember making fun of my friends in hs for cheating, and he ended up doing better than me
it did actually benefit him, but now he's a loser
you can't escape the personality trait
The price of failure being so high also increases the amount of cheating in my experience. Especially "low risk" cheating, like plagiarizing at home assignments, etc. Students who realized they can't achieve the grades they think they need in order to guarantee their future will look elsewhere for help. And I'm not talking about "slackers", but some of the best students in the school. They work their asses off, still fail to meet impossible expectations, and cheat in desperation.
AI will turbocharge this. The only realistic way to meet these crazy expectations is industrialized artifical intelligence churning out educational 'product' like nobody's business
The reason why Asian education is so outrageously harsh is because of the fact that they weight value of the test score too high. Asian education, prioritizing TEST SCORE way too much.
In America education system, your test score, especially the score of the final test, is only a portion of your class score but…in China, it’s isn’t like this, they value test score way too much. Not to mention Chinese version of SAT. the score determines which collage you can enroll.
All and all, the problem is the weight of the test score, that’s the mean reason why students work so hard in order to beat the rest of the students.
Your test score determines everything, and this is the real issue. Society competition isn’t the reason why students work their life out. If test score not the only factor of enrollment or to get a better class score, then students will have an easy time in school and get the diplomat, and graduation, or enroll a good collage.
The only reason why Asian student work so hard in school is to graduate from better collage, so they can get a better job after graduation. so the problem is about, how to make it less of a competition in school. Which is exactly what I just mentioned…. DO NOT value test score as the only factor of enrollment, or your school GPA. So that the student won’t need to fight against each other to be qualified, or study 6 days a week just to perform good in the next class test.
if you look at American education system. they prioritize at general performence of a student, not just good at doing TEST.
Your : Homework, class participation, behavior in class, regular test throughout the semester, Mid-term and Final are all important. these will all play part of the role in your GPA ( Grade Point Average, is a number that indicates how high you scored in your courses on average) or in other word; Class score.
under this education system, student won't need to study as hard in order to enroll a better collage, hence can get a better job in society without study your life out in school.
as reason above, the job difficulty doesn't have direct impact to the heavy workload that student is having.
Well you learn to live the fact you are not going to be number one. A lot of people work hard and will not be number one and do not cheat. You are Just basically making excuse for bad behavior. Basically in this country if you are C student in HS you can take your basic classes at a community College and if you can get a decent grade in q community College a state school will take you. No you will not make to a top school but you do not need to do that to have a decent life. I think the biggest problem is people expectation are really out of wack with reality of life.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg You just described Indian exams such as Iit jee ,neet along with Gakao. We asians value test score too much and define it as success , Our systems are again built around this concept. As a student it sucks.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg exactly, i dont even like the country im in but my school also focuses on participation, general attitude (the report cards even have a score of your attitude to learning) and we have things like wellbeing week, art week, dress up days, and now i realise how lucky i am when i used to complain endlessly
Resonates with what I've experienced as a worker in Mexico, same mindset of "if you're not willing to do this overtime there's someone outside waiting to fill your position" from bosses. Thank you for the video
Because there are lmfaoo
@@ericktellez7632 they didn’t ask why
Mentality of a tradesmen
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@ericktellez7632 But the people who are willing to do it should stop being stupid and realize if they all stop being willing to do it their negotiation position improves.
I used to live with a chinese guy, he worked constantly, doing the full 99-6 while living with me. Thing is, i looked at some of the work he was doing, so much of it was pointless busywork that would just be going straight to the shredder. I told him this, he was working more than anyone i'd ever met yet he was doing maybe as much work as i did in 8 hrs a day.
The thing is, burnt out ppl get less done than ppl who take time to rest and recuperate, they get more done in the short term, but in the medium to long term they fall far behind.
To any chinese or other asian people reading this who feel this crushing weight of constant work and impossible expectations. Take a break, breathe the air, take a nap, go for a walk and play a game. You can easily justify it to others by pointing out you're keeping yourself productive by avoiding burnout.
That's the point where this intensive education (I don't even wanna call this piece of shit 'education' but anyway) do their job. It's like an authoritarian regime does to its people, but this education system is more 'effective', because children has no power to resist you know, and it's much easier to internalize an unquestioning obedience a man whose personality has not been fully built yet.
I've lived in here South Korea for 34 years. Education has made Koreans do something which you guys can never even imagine. We do not love, care for, or understand each other anymore. Why would we, when the other people are only competitors who just has to be eliminated?
And seems like it's not the only case in Korea...
Very true, that. My boss has a 28-30 hour week because of that, (we work commercial janitorial), and we get more sites and more places done than most that work a similar 996 type schedule. Sure, when we're working it's nothing but hustle, but I get paid a few dollars an hour over prevailing, and can't complain about having the rest of my time for other stuff I need to do.
i remember my therapist telling me that the most important thing for a teen is to find a peergroup and friends. not grades. she told me that that is crucial for adulthood and u will have an extremly really hard time integrating into society and will probably end up in some job extremely unhappy because u never learned how to properly have a social life.
omg yes
I am not from East Asia but i have this problem too
Absolutely. With how the world is, social skills are _miles_ more important than anything else.
@@IAmGodHimself777 eh. i think having a *proper social life* is wildly overvalued in certain parts of the world to the detriment of things like education, but I am an introvert in the United States so I'm biased
exactly right.🥲
I had a professor who taught in China for a few years and he would tell us that he greatly preferred teaching in American universities because the Chinese students had never been taught to critically think so they couldn’t write essays or defend their viewpoints. Rote learning doesn’t prepare students to analyze problems and create innovative solutions to those problems.
Students in, or from, China achieve excellent academic results. But when come to solving problems in the real world, and being creative and innovative, they are behind the Europeans, Americans, Japanese, and other nationalities.
Metaphorically speaking... Chinese students are better than western students in following the recipes however complex the recipes are. Western students would question the recipes, change the recipes, and create their own recipes.
It's a culture thing, not just an education issue. Obedience and respect are important part of the Chinese culture, you are taught these since you understand words.
PS. I was born in east Asia to Chinese mother. Spent my early formative years there. But since secondary school, I have been British educated. And then I worked and lived in a number of western countries. So I have insights from various cultures.
but they ought to be good at math and creativity and innovation is essential in math
@@graxzinomafpo6796There are different levels or types of maths.
The first kind is routine problem solving. This the the type you find in most schools, undergraduate, and graduate exams. I would consider even routine engineering and science calculations in the real world of this type.
The second type is the kind that you find new questions and problems to investigate but using existing methods. This is the type of maths you may find in nearly all research papers. The bulk of conventional maths research would be this type.
The third type is about creation and innovation. New theorem, new theory, new methods, applying existing methods in new ways, solving extremely hard problems, pioneering a new area, etc. The front end of maths research would be this type.
Chinese students do very well in type 1 maths. They start to struggle to produce good work in type 2 maths. Very very few Chinese (inc people with Chinese background in the west) researchers produce type 3 maths.
@@graxzinomafpo6796There are different levels or types of maths.
The first kind is routine problem solving. This the the type you find in most schools, undergraduate, and graduate exams. I would consider even routine engineering and science calculations in the real world are of this type.
The second type is the kind that you find new questions and problems to investigate but using existing methods. This is the type of maths you may find in nearly all research papers. The bulk of conventional maths research would be this type.
The third type is about creation and innovation. New theorem, new theory, new methods, applying existing methods in new ways, solving extremely hard problems, pioneering a new area, etc. The front end of maths research would be this type.
Chinese students do very well in type 1 maths. They start to struggle to produce good work in type 2 maths. Very few Chinese researchers produce type 3 maths.
@@graxzinomafpo6796 I hear that primary schools United States spends significantly more time on social studies and social sciences than primary schools in east asian countries like Japan and China, where they spend much more time on mathematics.
I think this translates to people who simply develop different types of critical thinking applicable to different fields.
I teach kids who escaped the 高考system (at an international school). Some of them are still burnt out by it, some pretty rough depression or anxiety. But at least they’re out of it. I can’t imagine losing so much of my childhood for a few exams…
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Omg thats horrible, those kids really really need a break. I know what long term burnout is like (I'm not asian but I get burntout very very easily) and they deserve a break.
I feel really bad for all of them who have escaped or who are still in that system
I was in a Chinese Secondary school and get major depression while I am only 13 year old. Attempt suicde many times and finally leave that environment. However, these cultures and goals were internalized like cancer. Even I am living in Canada and preparing for my second Masters degree, I am still experiencing panic attacks with cues about grade. Even sleep, I still dreamed many times I was in Chinese School and screaming, trying to escape, unstoppable repeating: "I am already graudated."
i am so sorry :( if you can, please get a therapist to help you process your trauma better! either way, virtual hugs for you!!
It's worth noting that the Chinese work ethic is so intense it even affects schools internationally. Here in the states, Chinese exchange students so outcompete their US peers that it causes all sorts of imbalances. That includes academic prejudice against those exchange students - they're often seen as a separate category, and measured against each other instead of the normal admission standards of the school. I'm sure many schools also keep a close eye on their demographics, trying to ensure that exchange students don't make up too much of the population, which would place a cap on how many international students can get in.
Not to mention the broader adverse effects it has on race relations. Imagine if instead of everyone competing in a race to the bottom, it was a specific race from abroad importing a toxic work ethic.
In the US (any maybe the rest of the west?) the paradigm for understanding these behaviors is 'the prisoner's dilemma.' A game in which betraying your peers is incentivized, resulting in negative outcomes for everyone, including the defaulter. It's not as prominent a movement in the US, because our work culture isn't quite so egregious (and would probably get different language if it were, the prisoner's dilemma isn't *that* well-known), but there's still some intense hostility toward people sucking up to their boss.
I just saw some California school shut down a English honors class cause it was mostly if not completely full of Asian kids.
They said it was racist. Thus the class was canceled.
Sorry I can't remember the school name. It happened earlier this week.
@@baronvonjo1929 Just googled it. Culver City, wasn't completely Asian just not "balanced". Their problem was that only 10% of students were Asian but 34% of honour students were. Compared to Latino students who were 37% of the students but only 13% of honour students. Black and white kids did not have the same disparity. They weirdly decided this was racial inequality and canceled the classes.
US workers are nr 10 in annual work hours in oecd countries. US work culture is quite bad too. I don’t know where you got the idea that Americans have it super easy?
Very intense
It's the same here in Canada as well where the standard of doing good is based on the exchange students. This really gets to me as I feel like I'm never good enough and outclassed in every subject. I don't blame the exchange students though, it 's just that it creates a super competitive environment which I crack under.
I’m a Chinese student who lives in England. I grew up in here my whole life, it wasn’t hard, the only thing that was hard was my parents physically and mentally abusing me, forcing me to be the best, etc. It was hard since there were many people that were as smart as me, or even smarter. Literally cried every single day if I didn’t get 100% or I didn’t get first just because I couldn’t impress me Chinese parents. I was so competitive, pushing everything but my education away.
Which subjects did you do for A-level?
@ThePHiLsTeR well, i don't want to say this but your dad could have been abusive in many ways even ones you wouldn't habe recognized or maybe your dad did it out of the good of himself and was there for genuine. You can be toxic and loving too.
@ThePHiLsTeR i said *could* have, not to insult you but because its something that happens very often to people with trauma that takes years to realize and because the brain is extremely good in dissociating / -forgetting- things.
@@makuru.42 I don’t think we should be arguing with people we don’t know with what is really scant personal life details on whether they’ve been potentially abused or not…
亚洲教育学生压力大，其实是应试教育害的。应试教育的特点就是，过于注重考分，各种考试分数。而不是综合评分。所以学生会花大量时间做考题，因为考试的分数决定了一切。这么说好像有些人很难理解，因为在大部分受应试教育的人面前，考试分数很重要，是一件理所当然的事情。可事实并非如此。但如果不以考试分数为标准，那又该是什么呢？ 你可以参考一下西方的教育理念。不过在此之前，你一定要搞清楚，应试教育和教学方式，是不同的概念和领域。
应试教育仅仅强调的是以个人考分为重点。而教育方式则是强调 以何种模式教育学生，比如西方普遍的个性化教育，老师更多的是引导大家去学习如何自我思考。老师会经常问你”你自己是怎么想的”，而不是给你一个标准答案。要的就是让学生独立思考，并且要求学生清晰的表达自己的论点，来支撑自己的个人观点。因此，老师并不在乎答案是否 绝对正确。而这种教育的反面，就是死记硬背，灌输式教育。
说完了教学方式和应试教育的区别。我们回到原来的话题，应试教育的另外一种改变方式是什么？ 那就是学生的综合评分。什么是综合评分？比如说在美国，你的最终的科目分数是由：（比例只是我用来举例的方式，不要太纠结）分数的15% 是课堂执勤率+30%家庭作业完成度+30%学末考试分数+25%的所有其他考试。并且，老师还会允许你用多做作业的方式来临时增加5-10%的学分。
在这种教育制度下，你不需要当心你的考试分数不高，而得不到好的学分。因为你有很多可以弥补的方式。这样你就不会那么内卷，学业压力也就小了。所以我才说，亚洲教育压力的问题实际上是 太注重考分的结果。
和社会就业难，没有直接关系。因为就业难对于学生而言是，如何考入好的大学。
而，不以考试分数为重点的教育体系，会让你免于沉重的学习压力，也能考上好的大学。
Something that scares me is what happens to those who may have learning disabilities. Not just severe global intellectual disabilities but things like dyslexia or a nonverbal learning disability as examples. Im in America so its different but even here my learning disability has caused me so much pain and stress in my academic career...i cant imagine how much more painful it would be in this kind of system. I legitimately dont know if id survive.
yeah my ADHD is so bad I couldn't focus on college and got a tech job. I can't imagine having to do that much schooling.
yeah, i have severe issues producing sentences for essays. it feels like a blockage in my brain and it can take me an hour to think of a single sentence. without max word limits i would be screwed forever
As someone with ADHD who grew up in China until I was 8-9, I struggled with time blindness and would only be able to finish my homework around midnight. Learning disabilities are largely underdiagnosed (esp in less developed regions), and these kids would often be the target of the teachers' bullying and paraded around as bad examples for the other kids to not follow. Most likely they would not be able to pass their exams to get to high school and instead end up at technical colleges, where, upon graduation, they'd be working at one of those thousands of factories where yall get your "made in China" products from.
It can be a different story though. I'm obviously very lucky and was able to emigrate along with my parents, but one way for Chinese kids to leave the rat race would be to specialise in arts or sports, where the university grade requirements are a lot lower. If kids with learning disabilities are well-supported by their families and have talent in these areas, they may be able to make it. However, these are still money-consuming endeavours and a lot of families won't be able to do this.
Painfully relatable; I barely survived the American education system with undiagnosed ADHD and autism. I shudder when I think about somebody with those conditions having to survive school systems like the Chinese one.
I have to say i'm not chineese I'm indian. Here we prepare for JEE and NEET University exams. They're extremely difficult! And EXACTLY the same culture is present here. It's beyond stressful and overwhelming as well as exhausting. It causes widespread depression and anxiety. And the causes are the same as well. These things resonate sooo much to me especially the part about how when parents give up a part of their life for u you feel obligated to do the same !
as an Indian that's trying to pursue a career in design, my parent's are supportive and I love the field, guess im part of the minority
Me too!@@freezingicy9457
@@freezingicy9457 you just did a good thing for yourself...more than 90% of aspirants will not get thier goal and will have to reach it other way or drop it entirely...you just doged a bullet...i myself am trying to be a human again after being a cog for these machines for 2 years
As an Indian, I totally agree with you
At least we do have other options like state government universities or private colleges in India. My heart goes out to the students in China
I'm Brazilian (of no Asian descent, by the way). I've been raised in a familiar environment similar to those of Asian cultures but on a lesser scale, I imagine. I developed depression, anxiety, insecurity and an unhealthy obssession for big achievements (there were other factors that caused this, but this was one of them). What really pisses me off is that I was psychologically tortured to become an overachiever in a culture that does not value this kind of person.
''I was psychologically tortured to become an overachiever in a culture that does not value this kind of person''... damn, really resonated with this part. i hope you know there are people who value you deeply for all you are and not just what you achieve, friend.
No brasil, todos sofrem.
@@banhymor300 Sim, e ninguem é obrigado a aceitar calado
@@Henry258654 pelo contrário, neste país a moda é ignorar o problema ou fingir que ele não existe.
Amigo, você pode procurar ajuda para curar os seus traumas, e até mesmo antes de curá-los completamente, você verá são muito menores do que os benefícios do desenvolvimento que você obteve. O seu batismo foi de fogo, mas você venceu!
"But young people are realizing that whilst they might not be enough or do enough, they've *HAD* enough."
That hit home.
"There are no two words in the dictionary MORE HARMFUL than, Good Job"
@@1eyeddevil929 cap
@@1eyeddevil929 To be fair, that line was from Fletcher in Whiplash, and he absolutely is not the sort of paragon for teachers that we should be following, period.
@@lildrawhub1025 We must! But not too an extreme.
Stress is bad for the body, it makes me sad to see little kids stressed about school/their future. Wanting good marks and studying to the point your developing body doesn't get enough sleep are different, one is fine, the other is unhealthy.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I used to teach in Korea and it was depressing on an existential level. Everyone but Capital in the country suffers a meaningless life of struggle. Students have to memorize facts for pointless exams. I had a kindergartener tell me he want to wnd his life over pressure for a first grade entrance exam and the Korean teachers and the parents just laughed it off and said he isn't working hard enough. Workers make their life about work. Mother in laws compete over who gets the most expensive handbag. I tried to talk about the things you are discussing in this video and was basically shunned if I brought it up.
I was an absolute ahole to managers, coworkers, and parents to create a supportive and positive learning environment for my students (Kindergarten in the mornings, elementary cram school in afternoons) until the fight burned me out after three years. I had one 1st grade after school student who had cram schools from 8am to 12am (an effing piano class from 11 to midnight) who I let sleep on my jacket under a table sometimes because she'd come in delirious from exhaustion with bags under her eyes.
고생 많으셨습니다. 방정환 선생님께서 계셨던 이 나라가 어린이들에게 이런 미친 짓을 저지르고 있다는 걸 생각만 해도 돌아버릴 것 같습니다.
it’s not surprising that Korea produced Byung-Chul Han, the philosopher who wrote “The Burnout Society”
i live in Brazil, and we definitely have completely different educational problems from China, but this honestly reminds me of the ENEM season in Brazil, wich is pure chaos. You're prepared your whole school life for this one single exam and your whole worth as a person is defined by how much you scored on it. It's terrifying. I'm preparing to do it this year, since its the only way people who can't afford going to college can get there and im honestly losing my sanity.
Gl to you. Don’t worry you’ll do good
I understand your situation. I am 36 years old, so I still got the old vestibular.
But the good thing about our educational system is that it allows for multiple attempts. Don't put too much pressure in yourself, you can always try again.
I understand that you might need to work if you don't succeed. Try to talk to your parents if you don't, and ask them for one year more.
Listen, success is more about long run resilience than speed. Try to think more like that.
I hope you succeed!
Yep... I'll take mine this year, but I dont think it will count (2nd yr high school), had a friend take it last year. More or so to prepare, as someone who wants to get in a federal university for medicine. I'll have to kill myself studying
We have the same in Russia, our main exam called ЕГЭ/USE (Единый Государственный Экзамен, Unified State Exam) and when after 90s the government started experimenting with USE, it was actually seen as a good alternative to Soviet examing system, because with USE, you don't need to pass internal exams in majority of universities, you can just apply your USE score, if it meets the quota of the uni you choose.
But then, everything got so fucked up students today are taught not to remember something important and then use it in unis, but just, just to pass this whole ass exam, like your life depends on it. A lot of students fail on USE, because the whole exam is a lottery in tests, despite these children received very good grades in school, attended extra classes for USE and their parents paid so much money for tutors. Even those, who passed Soviet exams excellently, also failed at USE. This exam causes so much pressure and stress on Russian students, that child suicide rates escalate quickly in May-July, when USE is held. The goverment is very ignorant on this, and older generations don't want to understand why USE is so unfairly hard and shallow, they all say youngsters are just "lazy".
As a brazilian, I do find the culture very similar
This just reminds me how my mum used to stop me from helping my childhood friend in her studies. She used to get really 'hush hush' and say 'you shouldn't help her focus on your own studies', even though i was getting a 4.5 GPA every year constantly. but i am glad i never let these types of things bother me
Ironically helping or teaching someone else can help you by showing you where you don’t fully understand something.
@@rogercroft3218 ikr it actually helped me revise concepts better
@@rogercroft3218 Yeah, teaching someone also makes you retain your knowledge even better.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@rogercroft3218 So true. When I used to teach my friends and classmates I felt like I had improved alot from it. We ended up in a small study session teaching each other and I released how effective it was compared to just studying on your own.
"the harder you work, the more hopeless things become" This has such a resonance for me. I'm at the point where I realized that at this point we individually can only do so much to improve our own lives. In order for us to collectively improve our standards of living on a global scale we have to collectivize and withhold our labor.
I live in Canada and have been here for most of my life, and after attending university and getting an education I realize that even with all of this my prospects for a better life are quite minuscule given inflation and the rising cost of living.
Troubling when in some of these societies, the demand for a "good" job is higher than demand for a similarly good/skilled worker. They literally live in "I can find another skilled person to replace you at cheaper rates" type of society.
It is good thing I live in one where even if there is lots of competition, there is always job niche (high demand, low supply of workers) that I chose, unlike those countries where actual enterprising people being the most demanded ones.
Basically Too many bosses > too little workers > means more rights to workers as they are the valuabe asset.
Or
Too many workers > Not enough bosses therefore not many jobs > low pay, no rights to workers.
@@minitntman1236 Better jobs doesn't necessarily mean more bosses. Bosses tend to be useless middlemen.
But yea, this is why we constantly are told we are in "shortages". It's so companies can use the large pool of skilled workers and make them fight for scraps.
Kazaks and Ukrainians when hearing collectivization...
I'm currently living in Japan and want to try raising a kid here up through preschool. I love the values Japanese preschools have for respecting each other and your environment. There's a lot of social skill learning that happens through play. But once my child starts going to elementary school, I'll be looking to move. I don't ever want my child to experience the academic competitiveness that comes with upper elementary school and middle school.
Crazy to think about how Chinese education system got so bad that Japanese education system started getting considered as better, despite it's also very stressful and toxic.
Yeah, you should look into international schools in Japan, they the western view on school but in Japan so alot safer lol.
Eh, it depends. The Schools I went to weren't terrible. Also it depends on how you approach it. If you are too serious you'll get burnt out, and feel terrible; but if you like myself don't take it too seriously and just try to avoid flunking, you'll be fine. After that go to the more specialized high schools, like agricultural, industrial, commercial, etc. I went to Itoshima agricultural high school and had the time of my life!
If the game is shit, don't play it, play around it!
This is helpful to know! Thanks@@darthhoovy8332
I don't know why westerners are obsessed with Japan
As a person who grew up in an Asian country, I feel really uncomfortable watching this because it brings me back to the old, dark days when I could only see the light from the small window of cram schools. Due to the education system in Asia, I promised myself never to let my children be raised in Asia, or rather, never to have any children since I don’t want to subject them to some of my darkest nightmares. I hope all children can have bright dreams, not endless nightmares.
TBH, born Asian is just painful
@@dname3no467 spoken the truth.
In South Asia you don’t even have a choice about stuff like marriage or kids ( that’s the main set of cultural timelines). I only knew that it was a choice after being on the western side of the internet.
I know that brazilian conditions are pretty better in terms of pressuring the students, but WHO IS THE ASSHOLE WHO DECIDED TO PICK INSPIRATION ON KOREAN NATIONAL EXAM TO A COUNTRY OF MILLIONS OF PARENTS UNEMPLOYED/STARVING AND CREATE A LIE TO SAY THAT EVERYONE CAN GO TO THE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY
Context here: theres public unis (who are good) in Brazil, but because public school education here is horrible, only the people with money to pay an alternative of that (paid schools) can go to the public university
@@dname3no467 i was a lucky asian bc my parents are supportive of my dreams + dont pressure/compare me, they dont even check if im doing work (i have adhd so i barely do work)
Everyday I am thankful to my parents for bringing me to Canada at a young age. I grew up in hangzhou until I was 8 years old, but even as a child I understood how much competition there was. This type of life is not sustainable and creates genuinely soulless working bots.
But if I could say one thing, it doesn’t have to stay like that. When my cousin came to our place for a bit, I saw a sliver of his real personality start to come out. I genuinely believe that many young people need to leave and find who they are outside of China
Hopefully videos like this can make a change. Unfortunately China censores everything.
Exceptional video - factual, straightforward and well-documented. Also matches up almost perfectly with my own experiences and those of many colleagues in China. One point missed is how many Chinese with money are now sending their kids overseas to boarding schools as early as middle school just to avoid the rat race. Anecdotal evidence as well for a similar trend in South Korea.
People are leaving Korea and China in droves to escape the hellholes of countries they live in.
I see this in Canada! Recently, rich Chinese parents have been paying our local public school boards tuition so their kids can study here. I don’t mind, it’s financially supporting our school systems! But I always wondered why
@@dreamiicloud1179 Canada protects the interests of the wealthy.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg i am Chinese. Our society is much fairer than the western. This video just cater to the Western biases or double standards about china.
As someone who grew up in Bangladesh, I relate to this a lot. I am in grade eleven right now. And in 2025 I will be giving a board exam that will decide my future.
There are a total of 4 board exams in 12 years of school. One in grade 5, then in grades 8, 10 and 12. There is a thing called "GOLDEN A*" here. Students are divided into 3 groups in grade 9 which are science, commerce, and humanities. In society's eyes choosing science means you are very smart, choosing commerce means you want to be a banker, and choosing humanities means you are dumb and you don't want to study that's why you chose it. People think you are dumb and a failure just because you chose humanities. But in reality, they are the one who succeeds in real life.
I chose science. I wasn't pressured into choosing it like some of my friends were. I chose it because I am good at problem-solving and the subjects are just easier for me to grasp. For group science there are two famous occupations in our country. Those are engineers and doctors.
I still remember that when I didn't get an A* on my board in 5th grade, my dad was so disappointed that he didn't even go to school to get my marksheet. And when his friends brag about their kid having A* and gifting them expensive gifts he used to be ashamed. And my mom used to tell me how I made my dad ashamed in front of his friends and family. At last in 8th grade the marksheet of the 5th grade board exam was needed and that was when he decided to get the marksheet. I got 100 in English and 95+ in other subjects except one. That subject was BGS where I got 77 marks. If I got those 3 marks I would gotten an A* on my GPA.
Then in 8th grade the pandemic started. And at the end seeing that the syllabus was far from being completed the government promoted every student to grade 9 without the board exam. But we were given weekly assignments.
Then in 10th grade, the pandemic was coming to an end. And throughout the pandemic, I couldn't study at all. I was lazy and super unproductive. My grades were dropping. But still, I managed to improve my grades slowly. I was happy to see the little progress. It wasn't much but it was a lot for me. But that didn't satisfy my parents. Because for them that wasn't progress. You either get an A* or you are a failure. I never told my progress to my dad. He used to yell at me because of the low grades and didn't see the little progress. So, I stopped sharing my grades with him. I only shared it with my mom. And I have the best mom. She understands me yet she still used to tell me to push harder because she knows how much my relatives will criticize her and me. She was still supportive though. After 3 months of preparation, I took the exam and got the so-called "GOLDEN A*". Those who didn't get the so-called "GOLDEN A*", some even take their own life. I even saw news of some students in 8th grade taking their lives because they couldn't reach society's standards and get "GOLDEN A*". It's so heartbreaking.
But I didn't get good marks. So, there was a lower chance of me getting into a good college.[ College is 11th and 12th grade]. And the college I vowed not to get into throughout my whole life my parents made me admit to the college. I can't even blame them for that because Dad became incredibly sick and we were having financial problems. It's not that the college is bad. It's just the environment it has. The teachers are good but lazy. They don't teach much in class except for two or three of the teachers. So, I got a 'C' on the first term exam. You know what's funny, only 12 students passed out of 80. This was only the science department. All of the teachers know me especially the principal. It was a shame when he asked my grade. But I can't even complain. Because two of my friends got an 'A'.
I was always being compared to both of them. I still am. I don't know how they got an 'A' but for me, it's quite impossible. Because if I don't grasp the concept Very well I can't write it on the exam paper. When I told my dad that the teachers don't really make us understand the topic and just read the textbook he told me to study for 16 hours on weekdays. I have tuition from 7:50 -9:40am. then classes from --9:40- 1:55 with a 20-minute lunch break. Then I have another tuition. And I reach home at 3 pm. After showering, it's 4 pm and I watch an online lecture do my homework, or do nothing at all because of how tired I am. At 6 pm I study again for 2 hours then have my dinner and study again until it's completed. If I had another online class then I would have to finish everything and sleep at 1-2 am. Even if I didn't have any classes It would still be 1-2am to go to bed.[ I take an online course for all the subjects in college because I don't understand anything the teachers teach if you call it teaching. So, I have even less time to actually study.] I wake up at 6-7 am. And the routine continues.
Now I can't even have 6 hours left to study and my dad tells me to study for 16 hours a day. Recently I have been facing burnout. And looking at the syllabus and realizing how far behind I am, I am scared to even start small because of fear of failure. Nowadays I can't even study for 1 hour. I can't even tell any of the teachers I take online classes because then they will start hating me and can't even leave the tuition because then they won't give me enough marks to even pass. They would make you fail. It happened to one of my friends and I am not looking forward to it.
For my father and teachers the more time you put in studying the better grades you get. They don't care about my mental health. The fear of failure is rapidly growing inside me. And there is also a consistent comparison. My mom admitted me to this college even after knowing that there was a 99% chance that my grades would decrease. She did that because she belives that I could do well on my own like how I did on my 10 grade board exam.
In 2025 after my board exam, the admission preparation will start. For science department students there are only 3 institutions in the eyes of the society. Engineering, medical, and university. The best engineering college here is BUET. Where you have to get 93+ in physics, math, and chemistry to even be able to form an application for the BUET entrance exam. And in medical college, you have to get into the government ones. Dhaka Medical College is the no. 1 medical college in Bangladesh. And Dhaka University is the no.1 university in the country. In the eyes of society if you don't get admitted to the best you are a failure.
My life is miserable. There is no routine, no balance. In our country, they don't really give credit to hard work. When I was little everyone used to praise me for my excellent grades and told me I got those grades because of how smart I was. And because of that whenever I get bad grades I just say I am not smart enough and don't even try working hard.
All I want to say is that being excessive of everything is bad and doing less is also not good. You should always stay in between. But I guess the society doesn't understand that. I just hope to survive in this curriculum. And thank you, mom, for being the only supportive person in my life and understanding my situation.
There is a new curriculum coming and if it is accomplished perfectly the quality of the education will increase. I just hope this one works even though it's not for us but for our juniors. I hope they and my brother will get a better student life with the new curriculum.
( I appreciate you taking the time to read all my rambling. I didn't expect it to make sense because I was just writing all the things I couldn't share with anyone. It's not every student's situation over here, I just shared mine. Some have better situations and also worse situations. If I made any mistake please note that I am human and I am bound to make mistakes and hopefully you will forgive them.
Thank you.)
thank you for sharing this. i’m rooting for you!!
You are so sincere! That a quality that a few people have. I hope you will overcome everything!!
@@timofeq_1 Thank you❤
Hi,
Your situation sounds really shitty and I hope you'll get better. The Bangladeshi education system sounds quite inhumane. I hope you will make it despite that and that your dad will get healthy again.
sounds harsh. Ami nije HSC 2023 and can relate
You can't win a game when your opponent decides all the rules. The only winning move is not to play.
Aka lie flat
You can. You just need to play along
@@kingol4801how's the boot taste?
hey this makes me think of Pyramid Game, the Korean series
amen
As an international animation student who just graduated from a Chinese university last summer, this is all true. We often had to decide between homework, eating, sleeping, and socializing. I often went to sleep 1 hour before I started school at 8 am because I was up all night finishing assignments. Then I would take a 10-20 min break during class to have breakfast around 10 am or 11 am. At lunchtime, I would sleep and then wake up for the afternoon session. When the afternoon class was finished at 5. I would go back to the dorm to relax or eat a snack. We then had elective courses until 9 pm. They have since added more electives to the system and changed the curriculum by adding new courses and teaching courses that were third-year or second-semester second-year courses to second-year students in the first semester.
亚洲教育学生压力大，其实是应试教育害的。应试教育的特点就是，过于注重考分，各种考试分数。而不是综合评分。所以学生会花大量时间做考题，因为考试的分数决定了一切。这么说好像有些人很难理解，因为在大部分受应试教育的人面前，考试分数很重要，是一件理所当然的事情。可事实并非如此。但如果不以考试分数为标准，那又该是什么呢？ 你可以参考一下西方的教育理念。不过在此之前，你一定要搞清楚，应试教育和教学方式，是不同的概念和领域。
应试教育仅仅强调的是以个人考分为重点。而教育方式则是强调 以何种模式教育学生，比如西方普遍的个性化交易，老师更多的是引导大家去学习如何自我思考。老师会经常问你”你自己是怎么想的”，而不是给你一个标准答案。要的就是让学生独立思考，并且要求学生清晰的表达自己的论点，来支撑自己的个人观点。因此，老师并不在乎答案是否 绝对正确。而这种教育的反面，就是死记硬背，灌输式教育。
说完了教学方式和应试教育的区别。我们回到原来的话题，应试教育的另外一种改变方式是什么？ 那就是学生的综合评分。什么是综合评分？比如说在美国，你的最终的科目分数是由：（比例只是我用来举例的方式，不要太纠结）分数的15% 是课堂执勤率+30%家庭作业完成度+30%学末考试分数+25%的所有其他考试。并且，老师还会允许你用多做作业的方式来临时增加5-10%的学分。
在这种教育制度下，你不需要当心你的考试分数不高，而得不到好的学分。因为你有很多可以弥补的方式。这样你就不会那么内卷，学业压力也就小了。所以我才说，亚洲教育压力的问题实际上是 太注重考分的结果。
和社会就业难，没有直接关系。因为就业难对于学生而言是，如何考入好的大学。
而，不以考试分数为重点的教育体系，会让你免于沉重的学习压力，也能考上好的大学。
Wouldn't the quality of students work actually suffer because of this lifestyle?
All that for a low paying, tough job in the end, if even. I truly hope all works out, you deserve success after all that!
@@williamnelson2228 Of course, it will. But the goverment doesn't give a fuck. They feed pretty lies to hardworking folks that 100% perfect grades will make them out of poverty, but the truth is, if every high-grade child from poverty will become CEOs and drive in Mercedes, then there will be no distinction between poor and rich people, and many jobs will fade away. Which government, of course, doesn't want, so they put high pressure on folks and feed them these lies while making competition harder and harder, nearly to impossible level, so rich people will stay rich and poor people will stay poor. Some people need to stay in villages, so population won't decline, and some need to crop rice and clean toilets. Unfortunate, bitter, but truth.
my dream career is to be an animator, though im likely going to denmark, do you have any specific advice?
One of my teachers in uni who was very strict and one of those "no one ever gets a perfect score from me" kind of teachers, always used to say: "It doesn't matter how well you do in something, there will always be a Chinese kid doing it better somewhere".
You just reminded me of one of my middle school English teachers. She would always tell us to do our work cus if we don't, "a Chinese kid is under our beds waiting to take our spot."
As a tween then and even today I think about how she should've really stfu!!!
@@qkun Man, there's so many weird ass teachers out there, it sucks to know that yours isn't an isolated experience (though it should've been of course).
I'm literally re-thinking my plan of becoming one at the thought of having to interact with them again, but as an adult lol.
Hoping my generation who go on to be teachers (late gen-z) are better.
@@qkun also think about how fucking weird and uncomfortable that would be for any East Asian and especially Chinese kids in the class
@@friedrice4015 that's what's even crazier, we're a predominantly hispanic area so most if not all of us in her class were white/ind hispanics (can't guarantee that now). She though, was white. I truly hope no Asian/Chinese student ever step foot in her class through her entire career!
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
When I was at MIT, sometimes classes would post the top 10 students in the class publicly. Almost invariably, it was a Chinese name at the top, sometimes an Indian name. It makes sense given this video.
I mean look at the international US Team. US beats China in Math Olympiad! Oh my it seems 3 or maybe 4 of the US team are Chinese :o
@@ethanchen4504exactly.
I myself am an Indian in 10th grade and in my class we are having thing back wards people are competing for not competing send some of them are just lost not knowing what they want to become what career to choose. Is it same for avg 10th grader over in your country ? Like 15 year old not knowing what they want to become
@@siberiam7186 I didn't know what I wanted to do until I was 18 so I wouldn't worry too much
@@siberiam7186As an Indian in 11th grade, I can't answer your question on a global scale, however I can attest to the fact that most people will feel clueless about what to do later in life.
Picking the MPC biology group will almost guarantee you an answer from those students, but they all have no clue what the career entails and couldn't give you a rough estimate of salary, fee, what college they're going into etc.
As for the "competing to not compete"....10th graders, for all of their rambunctiousness sometimes, somehow manage to do well in their boards (tuiton, revision exams etc.) however they all either pick a commerce group to slack, or they do exponentially worse in 11th grade. It's a domino effect, you see everyone in your class working less harder, teachers don't care about your grade as much as 12th, and parents also loosen the leash. This leads to an average of about 70-80%.
It's also been practically confirmed that grades 9 and 11 are harder in terms of curriculum compared to 10 and 12, as portions are optimised and reduced in order to get high percentage rankings in the board exams. If you're looking to pass competitive exams like JEE and NEET though, you need these concepts more than your board marks.
I'm big into anthropology and I really appreciate your videos. It's hard to find English language Chinese cultural analysis that's well laid out and researched.
I'm Chinese and I can confirm her contents are very real and sincere.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@skylinebayesian3662 亚洲教育学生压力大，其实是应试教育害的。应试教育的特点就是，过于注重考分，各种考试分数。而不是综合评分。所以学生会花大量时间做考题，因为考试的分数决定了一切。这么说好像有些人很难理解，因为在大部分受应试教育的人面前，考试分数很重要，是一件理所当然的事情。可事实并非如此。但如果不以考试分数为标准，那又该是什么呢？ 你可以参考一下西方的教育理念。不过在此之前，你一定要搞清楚，应试教育和教学方式，是不同的概念和领域。
应试教育仅仅强调的是以个人考分为重点。而教育方式则是强调 以何种模式教育学生，比如西方普遍的个性化交易，老师更多的是引导大家去学习如何自我思考。老师会经常问你”你自己是怎么想的”，而不是给你一个标准答案。要的就是让学生独立思考，并且要求学生清晰的表达自己的论点，来支撑自己的个人观点。因此，老师并不在乎答案是否 绝对正确。而这种教育的反面，就是死记硬背，灌输式教育。
说完了教学方式和应试教育的区别。我们回到原来的话题，应试教育的另外一种改变方式是神们？ 那就是学生的综合评分。什么是综合评分？比如说在美国，你的最终的科目分数是由：（比例只是我用来举例的方式，不要太纠结）分数的15% 是课堂执勤率+30%家庭作业完成度+30%学末考试分数+25%的所有其他考试。并且，老师还会允许你用多做作业的方式来临时增加5-10%的学分。
在这种教育制度下，你不需要当心你的考试分数不高，而得不到好的学分。因为你有很多可以弥补的方式。这样你就不会那么内卷，学业压力也就小了。所以我才说，亚洲教育压力的问题实际上是 太注重考分的结果。
和社会就业难，没有直接关系。因为就业难对于学生而言是，如何考入好的大学。
而，不以考试分数为重点的教育体系，会让你免于沉重的学习压力，也能考上好的大学。
@@Lucifer-fj7mg 这是深层次的文化原因，中国教育的目的从来不是制造独立人才，而是筛选服从性。秦制社会没有变过。
well yes, it’s easier for aini to make videos abt chinese society bc (i’m assuming) she’s chinese and lived there. a lot of people like to shy away from subjects that deal with things they aren’t familiar with to avoid offending people.
For most Chinese, the problem is not competition - but inequality in the competition. In college entrance exams, for example, it's 10 times easier to get into a 985 (Chinese Ivy League) university for someone from Beijing than someone from the neighboring Henan/Hebei provinces.
We have a similar problem in the US. A study found that the zip code of a person can be used to estimate their likelihood of success because ultimately the wealth of a neighborhood will determine the quality of education and opportunities people receive
Reservation system for minorities in India is more worst
@@Anngrl69 It's similar and not similar. My dad had to move an entire city to a different high school because the one in his area didn't have a single college graduate EVER. Entire relocation by himself living alone and apart from his family. In the US, hard work will get you out of that shitty area you live in because college admissions LOVE TO SEE HARDSHIP. That's why you can see people from impoverished areas get into good universities but not really the other way around. Those places are practically set as in "just attending this place kills your chance".
I very much disagree with the "quality of education" you are referring to. Correct me if I'm wrong but to my knowledge in the US growing up in a poor area will mean most of the people in your school won't give 2 fucks about being good and literally go around having orgies, gangb*ngs, doing drugs, and just giving up. I feel it's more the expectation that's placed on them. "You're in a good school, so you better be good" vs "You're in a shit school and everyone around you is shit".
P. S That stuff I said was from a roommate I lived with for a year.
Couldn't agree more!
@@ethanchen4504they are right about the quality of education being determined by neighborhood wealth. local property taxes fund public schools so poorer neighborhoods will lack teachers, textbooks, quality resources like crayons pencils and computers, good bus coverage, clubs and afterschool programs, and generally be unable to give a student the opportunisties a school in a wealthier neighborhood could. Kids in poorer schools are probably more likely to slack off because the school can't afford to properly discipline them, more students will need to work part time to support their families and yes environment is very important, in psychology it's known that if students perceive that teachers expectations are low for them to succeed and they treat someone like a problem child, that student will internalize those expectations and do poorly compared to someone who's expected to succeed. If everyone around them is doing poorly there's no incentive to succeed, there's also a school to prison pipeline for misbehaving (usually non-white) students. It's quite sad
I'm from Brazil, am 12 years old and I spent my entire year in 2023 trying to get perfect grades and academic success bacause I was jealous of one of my classmates (thank God I got back to my senses). It turns out that full marks (especially in 7th grade, I don't even know what I was thinking) are unecessary. Of course it's amazing to see the results, but it didn't do anything for me. If you focus on things that aren't just school and are also important (competitions, groups, extracurriculars, interactions, etc) and get good grades without killing yourself, it's so much better.
I’m from [redacted], and I’m dead tired of studying. Nothing I do will matter because it’s not enough for the dumb teachers and parents.
Hi,
I'm from Germany and I used to pressure myself and compare myself to my sister when I was your age. My sister always got straight As, she didn't even study much, she's just very intelligent and has an almost perfect memory. Compared to her I felt like a failure (even though my parents didn't even care that much about my grades).
Over the years I learned the same lesson as you and started focusing more on my hobbies instead of schools and my grades actually improved in some subjects, because I studied and learned because I was interested in the curriculum and not because I felt like I had to.
I'm 17 now and I'll be graduating soon.
Best wishes to you from Germany
@@hierkonnteihrewerbungstehe604 literally the same, once I entered college everything has gotten much more relaxing.
@@Чаты i gave up on studying, mainly because of adhd/executive dysfunction and procrastination; i have a math igcse in 10 hours, another in 2 days, then i have three mocks on consecutive days next week, yet i really dont give a damn anymore lmao
Sounds like the "lying flat" movement is exactly like the " quiet quitting" in the united States.
Big corporations think and act the same no matter the country. When the workers act together in the best interest of the employees, corporations are forced to improve working conditions.
See I come from India and we have much competition too with parents pushing hard,peer pressure of seeing friends succeed, relatives asking you questions about your career in every family function but what I have seen in Korean culture and maybe Chinese culture, the long school hours, long private coaching hours,less sleep that too from junior classes, it's too much.
I pushed hard but only in high school until then it was mostly chill.
If you're sleeping midnight in like lower grades before middle school, it's bad, it shouldn't happen
Bro we all can relate
me too
it doesnt promote creativity and innovation either
has India's gender imbalance intensified this problem?
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
As a 24 yo who grew up in India, I realise now that the amount of effort I had to put on college entrance examinations and then college itself to get a decent paying job was meaningless. I still have to work more than 10 hours a day, and be available on weekends in case of production failures.
It is funny how both our countries keep fighting over icy wastelands and we citizens cheer our side on, despite the fact that we live equally shitty lives and cry ourselves to sleep every night.
Bro as an indian we live shittier than chinese.
i am from China,i agree with you.🥲
lol so true, under nationalism, people are just plastic toy soldiers
The main problem is. If everyone has the same strategy to be successful in life. Then you have high competition and a lot of unsuccessful people that can't help each other later on. But if everyone had different strategies to be successful competition will be lower. Then there will be more successful people from other areas that can exchange value. So the best educated can derive value from the less educated and the less educated found another way for success. Problem in asian countries there isn't status given for other forms of success.
this was pretty scary but also insightful. worst off, i feel like a lot of other countries and places are trying to mimic this work ethic and style because it's seen as the highest standard
Yes it's seen as something to be proud of when it's an issue that they refuse to solve and admit it is instead they brag about it
Well duh, from capitalistic view it is indeed the desired standard, why do you think some labors have been replaced with autonomous non human systems? And with the booming of AI industry, even more human workforce would be replaced with more automated systems...
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I am Chinese, and what I want to say is not to learn a company system that is different from your own culture. Chinese culture has always encouraged people to work hard. In the eyes of some people in China, hard work may be as happy as your vacation. If your country's culture likes leisure, there should be a company management method that suits your country.
@@haochengzhai7156sure may be our modern culture but it is absolutely not our proper heritage
The problem with writing 10,000 words for an assignment that asked for 5,000 words is, as with so much else with success based only on numeric metrics, is that it misses the point of writing an essay. The point of writing an essay should be about communicating information, and what should be measured is the amount of information and quality of communication and not the number of words used. The problem is that quality of communication is not an easily measurable metric so the count of the number of words is used because it can easily be measured rather than the more useful but less easy to measure quality of communication.
Obviously you are NOT a teacher. The limiting of writing assignments is to give the teacher time to actually read and grade the work. Also-schooling is to teach Life Skills like following directions. So doubling what what was "asked" is a fail.
Have a Great Day!
@dariushober1506 I think this guy was agreeing with you that writing too much for this essay is not good. Also, why so hostile? There's no need for that.
This video hit pretty hard with me- I hear about Chinese student culture very often as most of my family is in China stuck in the system. My childhood friend has been bedridden for many years now due to the schooling system and I wasn’t able to meet her the time I went back to visit. My other childhood friend is stuck in extracurricular tutoring through all her breaks and instead of hanging out and going somewhere fun when we finally met up again after years, we went to her tutoring session and this was back in middle school where I was spending most of my free time drawing and gaming.
I lived in HaiDian (the district mentioned in the video) and honestly I feel lucky to have the chance to move to the States and escaped the system. I was not a bad student in anyway but often I still feel guilty about not working hard like the students back in China. Having parents and grandparents who all graduated from Peking University has honestly made me feel guilty that I didn’t take the same path as my past generations but part of me is glad that I didn’t have to go through the system but my background and family have made me feel extremely guilty about not studying my ass off and overworking myself to the brink of death.
My parents have never told me to my face that they think i’m a failure and I don’t think they think I’m a failure but often it’s hard to not compare myself to my cousins and other chinese students overworking themselves.
I remember going to China and living with my uncle. Once he told me to do summer homework with my cousin. 1 week later I finished everything, my uncle didn’t believe me and looked at my Italian text books, saw 2 images and laughed they were books for children, so my cousin “begrudgingly” had to show me his math text books from 2 years ago and teach me what “real” math was.
I am incredibly fortunate as someone Chinese who wasn’t raised in China. I admire my parents a lot, especially my dad. I’m probably biased but I really do think he’s a genius. His logic is incredible and he analyzes things carefully but quickly. He does put some pressure on me (in addition to pressure from myself and my mom) but he helps me alot, explains things to me, and most importantly, explains why for everything. He doesn’t tell me to get into a top college for no reason, he believes that it could offer great resources and experiences and we mostly have the means for it as well. He doesn’t compare me to my friends when I do worse just to make me feel bad but because his logic is, what’s the point of comparing yourself to people who did worse? That will give you nothing except a temporary sense of achievement but you shouldn’t keep sitting on that. If you compare yourself to people who did better than you, you don’t have to feel bad about it but instead use it as motivation to do even better. To improve. Sometimes he seems harsh to me but out of all asian stereotypes and parents I’ve heard of, I dare say my dad is pretty fair. Guys, remember (or at least food for thought): you’re the person who decides how to perceive things. I hate comparison because it can make me feel bad about myself BUT if you can take criticism to improve yourself, that’s great
Hey me too!
Your dad sounds amazing, I wish my dad was as cool as yours was for this. My dad was basically the opposite with constantly comparing me to other people. Reading this though is really eye opening, thank you!
probably he/she was chinese diaspora so not in chinese mainland@@wish-56
@@wish-56 they said they were from china
honestly my parents were emotionally distant but at least they supported me and didnt compare me? idk, they were just nonchalant 💀
im an american who did 996 for a little over a year at a job, i literally felt ground to dust at the end of the day, literaly eat a frozen tv dinner and sleep until the alarm wakes you up, no amount of sleep made you feel rested. The idea that some people do it for years must be insain
This makes me grateful that I'm a Chinese that was born and raised in Malaysia. I don't wanna just study all day. Where is the fun in that? We should enjoy our lives a bit.
How bad is racial segregation in Malaysia? I've heard its similiar to Jim Crow era USA and Apartheid South Africa
@@moustachio05 idk bout that you can look it up. Discussing it here would be bad imo😅
@@moustachio05There's no racial segregation. There's first and second class citizen, but it's not bad. If you're a Bumiputra, you're given priorities, but if you're anyone else, you'd be treated just like everyone else in the world. The life of bumiputera and non-bumiputera aren't that much different.
I grew up in China and the competition started as early as elementary school for me. Competing to write more pages for a better homework score was so real that it was getting out of control. I remember having to write a whole play over break in 1st grade just to keep up to the workload. I still remember the countless hours of sobbing through my homework assignments😢😢
And that was ~20 years ago. Can’t imagine how it is for them now. Poor babies 😢😢
Thanks for sharing this. It's a more extreme version of what many of us have experienced. I'm glad people around the world are becoming more aware of these atrocities, thanks to people like you.
A had a lab mate fly from china to study here. We actually had a talk about our school systems while working on a lab paper. I showed how my district was notoriously violent that had him bug eyed. I was also shocked on hearing on how violence wasn't as prominent but yet kids are at the school almost the whole entire day. We joked about how the kids there were too exhausted to have bullying come up but it was still insane.
Fun story, I was really good at math back in school. I lived in that education system mentioned here. The teachers constantly turned down my original approach to a problem and told me to copy the one from the books. Everyone in my class did the same. I refused, multiple times. Got kicked out of the best STEM university in my country. Guess who's working at the big tech now? This system sucks. I felt bad for my classmate that got suppressed to walk their own path. They are the ones who are now living a harder life.
Be original, everyone !!! It will pay off
It's not only China, countries like Korea, Japan, Singapore are pretty much the same when it comes to educational systems and work ethics. In fact, Jack Ma of Alibaba used to say: " It's a bless for young people to be able to work at least 6 days a week and 10 hours a day. They should be totally grateful for having the opportunity to live in such a working environment." Not to mention the widely known Japanese social phenomenon of Karoshi (Death from overwork).
right right
Im Singaporean and it doesn't apply to my country lol. My country is chill.
Japan is very different. It's not as hard as Korea or China and university here is so chill. Japan had other problems (like any other country) but in terms of study it's very different
I can tell white chrsitians taught them(since they first interact) to make sure they don't have free times because european religions are overwhelmly outnumbered by everybody else who isn't european. Panic effect
Christian missionary travelers were responsible for influence the patriarchy system in ancient Dynasty as we know it today. They made sure asian doesn't know anything about this history too via censorship and secretacy
@@fongekyoon9299wrong. Singapore is a soulless place.
I am a Chinese junior high school student, and I have become accustomed to school life from 7am to 6pm every day. The end of each class is only 8 minutes, while our teacher usually delays the end of class by 5 minutes. In China, homework needs to be done at 8 o'clock, and on weekdays, my parents don't agree with me playing video games, so I have to secretly play for half an hour. I finish my homework on weekends and attend tutoring classes twice a week. I find this kind of life quite tiring.😢
I'm sorry for your circumstance. Please try to find ways to relax as much as possible and when you grow up, try to get away from the things that are not helping live the life you'd like to have.
Remember to relax. And if you can't relax, tell whoever is stopping you to fuck off. 😂
Much love from the U.S.A.
@@jesseolivarez7643 Thank you for your concern, but ninth grade really makes me feel tired😅
Love that you cover China and Chinese society. It's pretty refreshing to have this perspective compared to all the video essayists basically covering what feels like the same Western oriented topics. Looking forward to your next videos!
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I grew up in China, and from a young age, I admired those abandoned children because I always felt that growing up without parents must be such a fortunate thing. When I told my parents these words as I got older, they didn't care.
they love hiding behind "we did it for your own good!"
@@macculu501 Exactly！
Portuguese-Chinese here, I had a relaxed education in Portugal, sure my parents did always push me to be better, but never in an abusive way. On the other hand, my wife was raised in China and received the full package of Chinese education. I can say that I'm impressed by her ability to learn, study, and work, it's like she has been playing in a different league.
Video spot on! Thank you for sharing this. Also I'm pretty lucky to avoid this 'involution' which, like expensive low quality sh*t, ain't worth the price. Remember, tho it is important to try hard and do ones best in school but don't let it stop you from discovering new interests, new places and most importantly YOURSELF as a human being not a robot.
Honestly, I don't mind the wait when all these essays are so enjoyable to watch like😭😂 thank you for this informative video
I teach in China at the moment and this helped me understand my students' situation a lot, especially the one girl who keeps using that word "involution" in all her essays.
It seems you have a good VPN for you to use YT.😂
I live in Latin America. Here the culture is not as exploitative as in China or Korea, but the truth is that I went to a top school in my country, and had to work my ass of. Unlike in China, where everyone competes, I was among the few idiots who worked hard at school. Yet, when I reached University, and realized my peers were doing even better than me, I gave up on hard work. I learned a valuable lesson: If it doesn't pay, don't do it, and never give your max. in anything. Back then, I also believed that my life was only worth by grades, and I wasn't the only one (a few of us did believe in this as well).
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg ok
What about the value of self improvement and personal growth? Isn't excellence a habit? If you never do your best, isn't it harder to be a great person?
@@apoptosisduellinks109not really, always doing your best is the best recipe for falling into meaninglessness: who dictates working overtime is the best thing to do? why do it if the only reward is a nebulous self improvement that no one but you cares about? you can't eat out of your gpa
@@wyvern5438A personal sense of fulfillment and satisfaction is critical to a lot of people. It doesn't matter if others can see the feeling itself. It's a part of your mental health.
I came across your channel yesterday and it really broadens my perspective on Chinese 文化. This is really helpful motivation while learning the language. I also enjoy the scientific but down-to-earth approach and unobtrusive humour. 加油！
The comment about students trying to understand and change their answers to agree with the interviewer really hit home. When I was being interviewed for an internship, I would catch myself thinking too hard about what the interviewer wants to hear rather than answering honestly. The way school and competition hammered that I had to please the interviewer and actually doing it was such a disturbing and sobering experience.
“Capitalist (derogatory)” 😂🤣
It’s crazy to me how similar problems happen all over the world. Companies here in the US also try to foster competition amongst workers in order to deflect from them rigging the game to their benefit! I really think that collective action is the answer to that, and I hope more people rise up and see that were stronger together, and are the most formidable together too!
Your white, you dont know what your yammering about.
Difference is with America, you can LEAVE. You dont have to deal with post-communist bullshit where you litterally have no choice but to follow the system.
Americans can litterally go to community college, amp up their grades, and then transfer.
You dont get that with a centralized system like China. You dont get stuff like programming jobs that dont require a degree.
Notice how American private schools are almost exactly like Finnish schools.
Nothing good comes from central planning, and Americans need to realize the only reason they have it better, is because of libertarianism.
Unfortunately its true,we had a kid from China and they were good with exams,and stuff but when we asked about hobbies he'd replied he didn't have any which surprised us as well as not being able to ask challenging questions or be creative.
honestly in our english literature course, my friend from china is rly good at memorising but i think she was taught only how to memorise but not analyse. so while she studies for hours for the top grade, i got top grades by winging it bc my adhd lets me write essays in a whim. but i always encourage her to take breaks bc i dont like seeing her overwork herself
Damn! I am a Chinese-Indonesian but my mother is a Tiger Mom with such 9-9-6 culture. I played piano by age of 6, ride a bike by age of 4, and now attending engineering studies with straight A scores called by my Peers as As of As-es (Ace of Aces). I do my python programing, eating, doing a static structure analytical study, designing microcontroller while driving, or even while eating at the same too. I find it this kind of culture is toxic and I want to take a break. Sure my GPA is almost 4 in engineering department and everybody called me as "The German Enginerd" because getting A (Ace) is akin to German stereotype while the A addiction becoming like a drug with sprut of dopamine everytime achieving it like how Pervitin works.
Turned out my real passion is not in engineering
Where did you find your true passion, if I may ask?
Also, I hope you escape that toxic pressure in some way.
Its really crushing once you realize a random Euro/American who didn't even nearly put in as much effort as you, will probably perform just as well.
nah fr, i played piano since i was 5 but i quit at 13 bc the structured lessons killed my passion. i still love writing music and would like to actually release it one day, but then again i have a passion for art/animation and its my dream career
I have worked in Japan and Taiwan, and I've noticed that there is a big difference between the time you spend at work and the actual amount of work you produce. In these countries, it is acceptable to go on social media and even take naps at work. In most of these countries, productivity is abysmal indeed.
Japan isn't as competitive an academic society as China and South Korea, but the number of applicants for private junior high school entrance exams in Japan is increasing year by year, Many Japanese elementary students are busy studying for exams.
i went to japan in 2019 and in the hotel i stayed in there was some students staying there (not sure why) but every morning when i would go down to eat breakfast the students were there in uniform doing school work instead of eating. They were to focused too not a single word would come out of them not would they get distracted
but still much worse compared to NA/EU countries, due to the large population.
I need to find a good source for information about Asian schools
With the child population declining & a greater % going to private school what is happening to public schools?
Omggggg the 5000 word example ( 11:25) just ignighted something in me. In 2019 my mom and I took an english teaching job at Xi'an Jiaotong university, I was her TA. Because the classes were usually of 30 students, she would have them group up and do small presentations asking them to each speak for no more than a minute on topics and whatever. But they would speak for so long and go wayyy over and my mom and I had to emphasis that the time limit is for a reason and them talking for a long time was not impressing us but detracted because they were filling in the time with hot air. To do well you needed to be concise, clear and direct. We were so confused but now I kinda get it
exactly, my friend from china does the same thing, but since our edu system is much more forgiving, she's able to take more breaks. i encourage her to, both consciously + subconsciously and it's actually been working, so i'm glad for that :)
Really nice to see you included marx analysis on wage labor in this. A rare sight to see on youtube video essays
I can't even imagine how much research work went into writing this script. The quality of your videos is always impeccable! Thank you for putting the reference links.
PS.: the slightly tilted microphone foam attacked my OCD
只要在中国生活过的人，都会知道这些明显而且巨大的问题，这些问题对每一个中国人的内心都有着深刻的影响，无一例外
Excellent work! Research and professionalism are great as always, but what I'm most struck by is how much better you are at presenting the information. You've greatly improved on camera in a very short amount of time. The editing as well is better every time. Just wanted to give you that little encouragement. This amount of growth as a video essayist in this short a time-span is very impressive. 👍🏼
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
I'm a government scientist with a good union salary and amazing benefits. I always freely tutored my peers because I like helping people.
I would have never survived under that level of competition. I always rebelled under pressure.
Putting the people who got through this system at the top is a good way to reinforce the system.
I had a student online who is an only child. She said, it would've been so nice to go back to her chilldhood bcoz she doesn't need to think about looking for better paying jobs, paying for everything, just adulting. But, she quickly changed her mind and decided that, No, it wouldn't be worth the constant badgering of her parents for her to study more to become the best in her grade. She said it seemed she didn't have time to relax and play when she was young. Even when she has a job at present, her parents insists she has to apply for a master's program even at the cost of losing her present job. She actually failed to get on the master's program at first, but her parents heard that one of their daughter's friend passed the program, so she might also pass the second time around. This resulted to her mom and dad calling her almost every day to urge her to apply for her master's program. I actually feel bad for her
I have felt this same way, and I’m studying within the much more toned down American system. I know a Roomate who grew up in China and she couldn’t tell me any hobbies or vacations she had. She struggles even now in her mid 20s to have a sense of identity outside of academics and work.
Love your content. "Instead of questioning the rule of the game" is well described my sentiment toward many problems we collectively face.
You are so good at organising your thoughts and injecting them into impactful words. I am in awe. Started following you recently and have already grown attached to all your videos. I clicked on this video as soon as it popped up in my notification.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Wow. Just when I thought I was having college troubles. I passed everything I signed up for. But no one was forcing it in my direction. This inspired me. I've always studied other cultures and some of them really do have a more harsh education system than most. I feel weak for having ever felt tired and stressed.
It reminds me of a video posted by South China Morning Post about a doctor who repeatedly passed out from exhaustion on his way to work. Most comments, including the video were praising his determination and sacrifice when I was like: .... wtf??? I wouldn't like to be operated by someone who can pass out on me! Get some sleep please!
More time of work ≠ more quality work done. Humans have their limits and favorable conditions of working. I bet all those students could learn just as good in shorter time if they weren't stressed, exhausted and overworked. And definitely they could be able to work for 40+ years instead of being hospitalized in their 30s. This is so sad.
Have to say you're right
People become near sighted when they are desperate.
It's shocking how strongly the 996 affects chinese culture and it's scary how the competitiveness has caused it to be almost embraced by workers, I hope this attitude shifting will cause work culture to change to something much healthier and the education system too. Btw, you look great in this video, good work on the vid.
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
@@Lucifer-fj7mg As someone living in the U.K, I've never noticed the way a teacher would lead you to make your own answer, when a student would ask if a question was right, they'd respond by asking them if they thought it was. I don't know where the roots of this exam-oriented ideas came from, but I do remember hearing of an exam to become a beauracrat involving the studies of confucian teaching and other similar things, and so maybe this focus was absorbed into the education, which then prioritised exams and big tests to determine skill.
When I went to uni in Australia, if you went more than 10% over (or under) the word limit on essays you be heavily penalized because it showed that you don't listen to instructions and can't write concisely.
Same shit in England m8
@@Matthew_Ssalisuch bullshit. Sorry for being passionate, caring about the subject and doing my research. Profs ask for that then dock you for it. Guess they want you to try but not really?
@@evapaiz596 I was graded a whole grade down for making a video essay 20 secs over the limit(film course).I was also graded down for not being detailed enough but I had to shorten the video (which made it less detailed) to fit within the limit.Either way I lost faith in the legitimacy of the "Higher-Education" system for non-STEM&Professional courses a while back the whole system is B.S and people play along.
@@evapaiz596 You are not supposed to monopolize teacher's time by writing longer essays. If you can't write concisely, that's a you problem.
The word count thing is so wild to me because in America you often lose points for failing to follow directions and be concise, because if you need all those extra words to explain then you did a bad job explaining/don't understand the topic well. And we prioritize doing as you're told as quickly and quietly as possible, no modifications
I sincerely hope your channel gains millions of subscribers in a short time. All your content are worth watching and very educational. Keep it up sis!
Great video, I live in the United states and the competition here for college is not as intense as it is other countries. I have seen a similarity in the idea of Involution in the tech industry here, at the moment, landing a tech job is highly competitive due to the nature of an oversupply of coders. The pressure to stand out has raised the standards for technical questions to a level not seen before. Every coder knows these questions are ultimately useless in your actual job but in an effort to get the job, one has to answer and study hundreds of questions. Either way, it's at no level comparable to the Chinese exams so I'm grateful for that.
writing double the word count is crazy!! i do a pretty rigorous academic program and word counts are STRICT, the examiner will stop reading whatever you wrote above the limit and mark you based on what they’ve already read. the teachers are creating more work for themselves by allowing that to happen.
I love how this video is just the speaker and her well-structured talk. No distracting effects or music, just pure content. As an Asian, I can relate to the message personally and found myself engaged from beginning to end. I hope to see more great videos like this in the future!
You mentioned the foreign textbooks being banned and no online foreign tutors as indicative of China not wanting foreign influence but it was also sold to Chinese people as a way to reduce the burden on parents and students. Almost all after school training centers have shut down or reduced hours as the gov declared no weekend classes and all personal tutors must be registered. Ironically this still made parents anxious that their kids could fall behind and places the burden on schools and their teachers to prepare students for the zhongkao and gaokao. There’s still tutoring happening under the table, however this will definitely weaken student skills. We’ll see in a few years how the gov’s gamble pays off but many people feel it was intentionally done to create a bigger blue collar working class, something that had slowly been disappearing due to the amount of students attending 4 year colleges and not willing to work for low pay
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I think it's meant to strengthen equality of opportunity. Competitive studying is a zero sum game but the winners still win and they win by spending a lot of money on the best private tutoring. The government is still socialist and doesn't want to allow the formation of a permanent underclass.
@@appa609 Oh really? The CCP government doesn't want to allow formation of permanent underclass? Really?... Have you lived in mainland China before?
Asian education students are under a lot of pressure, which is actually caused by the harm of exam-oriented education. The characteristic of exam-oriented education is that it overly emphasizes exam scores and various test results, rather than comprehensive evaluations. Therefore, students will spend a lot of time doing exam questions because the exam scores determine everything. This may be difficult for some people to understand, as exam scores are important in front of most students who receive exam-oriented education and it is considered a matter of course. However, this is not the case. But if exam scores are not used as the standard, then what should be used instead? You can refer to the education philosophy of the West. However, before that, you must understand that exam-oriented education and teaching methods are different concepts and fields.
Exam-oriented education only emphasizes individual exam scores as the focus. Teaching methods emphasize how to educate students in a certain mode, such as the common individualized teaching in the West, where teachers guide students to learn how to think for themselves. Teachers will often ask you "what do you think", rather than giving you a standard answer. What is required is to let students think independently and require them to express their arguments clearly to support their personal viewpoints. Therefore, teachers do not care whether the answer is absolutely correct. And the opposite of this kind of education is rote memorization and indoctrination.
After discussing the difference between teaching methods and exam-oriented education, let's return to the original topic, what is another way to change exam-oriented education? That is comprehensive evaluation of students. What is comprehensive evaluation? For example, in the United States, your final subject score is composed of: (the proportion is just an example I use, don't be too concerned about it) 15% for classroom attendance + 30% for homework completion + 30% for final exam scores + 25% for all other tests. And, the teacher will also allow you to temporarily increase your credit score by doing more homework.
Under this type of education system, you don't need to worry about your exam scores being low and not getting good grades because you have many ways to make up for it. This way, you will not be so competitive and the academic pressure will be reduced. So I said that the problem of Asian education pressure is actually the result of too much emphasis on exam scores. It is not directly related to the difficulty of social employment. Because the difficulty of social employment for students is how to get into a good university. A non-exam-oriented education system will allow you to be free from heavy study pressure and still be able to get into a good university.
Not everyone can be CEOs, Engineers, Lawyers or Doctors. Some people are needed as garbagemen, mechanics and paramedics. South Korea has 73.8% college education rate but most of them cannot get the jobs they want and become drowned in household trying to compete. What should be done is shift public preceptions about blue collar vs. white collar work and encourage more people to take positions with trade skills by providing more respect and better pay.