The way he hits the famous chord at 10:34 is, I think, the high point of Hamelin's playing. Compare it to any other performance -- especially those that slur it with the pedal. That chord is as ferocious, as uncanny, as anything Messiaen concocted.
It sounds like a glissando because Hamelin played all the notes so fast and fluently, but in real there is no kind of glissando which could possibly sound that way. It's not just black notes or white notes; it's a huge compilation of palm-sized, harmonic chords, divided between the hands. If you look at the score, there is an explanation how it should be played, actually. Scriabin did know what he was doing.
Definitely my favorite sonata. It's so emotionally charged. You have to give this piece many listenings, but it is so worth it. Everyone cites the chord, but my favorite moment is 9:40. Such an incredible climax, so emotionally charged, and a very different take on the motives played with throughout the enntire piece.
When Scriabin got older, he said, «My music more and more conforms to a universal law.» In 1910s, when his friends begged him to organize a meeting to discuss that law, he was very reluctant, hesitated, but once agreed. When everybody came, he paced up and down for a while and then said, «I’m not in the mood today. Please come another time». That time never came. If THIS intricacy of magic intervals that almost fully fits into Scriabin’s law is «just a glissando», I have nothing to say.
Scriabin obviously was himself in composition. Who he really was can only be imagined through his music. It can be rough, but also beautiful. I love Scriabin because Ive learned to go to a place that is unreal and addictive through music. A place I can truly know myself outside of time over and over again. This sonata in particular does not touch me like Rach 18th variation from Paganini Rhapsody or make me wonder like Schubert’s Gflat impromptu...ThIs sonata has taught me think so much more critically and with such painful analysis...When I first embarked on trying to understand what Scriabin was communicating or whatever his works were purposed for; perhaps, he had none. But he did what so many fail to do. He had an idea that was his own, he wrote the first note, and then another, and another until he stopped. It takes bravery and a lot of humility to transform a figment of your imagination into something that others can then experience...and like or dislike...judge, criticize, scrutinize. Speaking for myself, my fear would be someone personally preferring something that isnt like mine. If I take a star from my universe and its light is too bright, weak, or isnt beautiful to even one mind, do I risk losing the universe and Her beauty in that She only
Appreciate this pieces in the Scriabin late style! th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html This year, January 6 marked the 150th anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Nikolaevich Scriabin. He is the person closest to me and beloved by me in the whole world of art, a composer who immerses with his magical music into the worlds of "the highest refinement and the highest grandeur." Having deeply passed through all his work, I learned to thoroughly reproduce the elements of the Scriabin style. In particular, the style of the works of his late creative period, sounding extraordinary, otherworldly, mystical... Using specific means, first of all harmony (as well as texture and tempo), I can "scriabe" any piece, melody or motive accordingly, without changing at all or almost without changing the notes of the melodic line of the original. And despite the fact that in this case I didn't even change a single note of the melody of the original holiday song "Happy birthday to you" th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html , in the end it sounds completely different: now it's not a "home holiday", but the image of a nervous-impetuous strong-willed flame characteristic of Scriabin! Also I "enchanted" the famous Christmas song "Jingle bells" th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html into a figurative sphere characteristic of Scriabin: now it is the most refined cosmic longing, gradually ecstatically excited, and then melting away...
By the way, that miraculous chord at 10:34 was actually not a glissando. All the notes were played by separate fingers. Okay, you can close your mouth now.
Only gods can compose the miracle of 10:34. After listening to Scriabin only for the whole summer and reading his philosophical views, I turned from orthodox christianity to atheism that relies on pure culture, ecstatic music and the infinite power of arts. If only Scriabin wrote the Mysterium, probably we would have been replaced by nobler beings by now. Scriabin is so great that I even fall for his religion... the religion of enigmatic passages and godlike piano music.
+Jason Beque I spent most of last year walking in the woods and I took Scriabin with me. Nothing quite like collapsing at the top of a mountain with a pounding heart and Poem of Ecstasy climaxing in your ears.
How is this kind of piece composed? Is there some kind of format like in serialism, or does Scriabin just choose notes based on their colour? I can hear some 7th chords and some clear intervals, as well as some well defined scales at points. Does this kind of music have a tonal base?
+MUSIC EAT PEOPLE I can't say for sure, I don't know much about Scriabin, I'm sure you could read up on it though. I think he composed a lot of this stuff based on synesthesia too.
+MUSIC EAT PEOPLE Scriabin's music is structured, if you study the score. It's hard to tell from listening, but if you look at the notes on the page the patterns are more obvious.
Mysterium - that grandiose mystical act conceived by him, which all of Mankind would participate in. Gigantic changeable spherical volumes of a dome that rises to the Heavens, multimillion-strong choruses, incense, appealing to the sensory receptors, mysterious apparatuses, radiating invisible beams of light and unfamiliar to man wonderful colors - and his music, inducing in all of humanity an ecstatic state, and you believe he could pull that off? If you do, you're back to where you started.
Looks bloody difficult, and it's difficult to listen to too. I'm not sure if I like it, perhaps "like" is not the right word here. Got a feeling I'll be coming back to this one.
Would you happen to have any recommendations on what to read to delve into his philosophical views? Any handy salient readings or points? I have tried to read on theosophy, but the topic is so vast... I'm also interested in reading his poems, but could only find them in foreign languages. I'm probably not searching hard-enough, but your assistance would be much appreciated!!
Appreciate this pieces in the Scriabin late style! th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html This year, January 6 marked the 150th anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Nikolaevich Scriabin. He is the person closest to me and beloved by me in the whole world of art, a composer who immerses with his magical music into the worlds of "the highest refinement and the highest grandeur." Having deeply passed through all his work, I learned to thoroughly reproduce the elements of the Scriabin style. In particular, the style of the works of his late creative period, sounding extraordinary, otherworldly, mystical... Using specific means, first of all harmony (as well as texture and tempo), I can "scriabe" any piece, melody or motive accordingly, without changing at all or almost without changing the notes of the melodic line of the original. And despite the fact that in this case I didn't even change a single note of the melody of the original holiday song "Happy birthday to you" th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html , in the end it sounds completely different: now it's not a "home holiday", but the image of a nervous-impetuous strong-willed flame characteristic of Scriabin! Also I "enchanted" the famous Christmas song "Jingle bells" th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html into a figurative sphere characteristic of Scriabin: now it is the most refined cosmic longing, gradually ecstatically excited, and then melting away...
I guess all the non-pianists are mesmerized by the big chord. If it were written out as a very fast arpeggio would everyone still be impressed? Call me cynical, but it's just a chord folks. And that's not a dig on Scriabin or anything. Lots of nice material in this piece.
Yeah, because _that_ makes sense, either in itself as a logical statement or in the fact that Scriabin was certainly not an atheist. Plenty of quacks wrote great music - Scriabin was one of them. Enjoy the music - revel in it even - but don't deny the beauty and cohesion of your faith for the ramblings of a man who most certainly was insane.
You are..... ill put your age at around 17. Smart, very smart for your age though. Although dare i say it, you should be listening to impressionism. haha
It most assuredly is not a glissando. The notes sounded are exactly as the score shows, and it is impossible to play them as a glissando. It is just Hamelin's incredible technique that makes it sound almost like a glissando.
His music is incredible, pure genius years ahead of his time, but I have to say I don't think much of his philosophy... how can a man, no matter how brilliant, confuse himself with God?
Yes I am sure that like late Liszt he has advanced into music recognition by his worthless eccentricity; I do not doubt that some listeners find pleasure in listening to this rubbish but really what is the worth? Mr Hamelin has wasted technique and valuable time in preparing this piece for an excellent performance...
Every mood is entitled to be given a sonic whirl, ecstasy (Scriabin) as well as indifference (Afroamerican dominated pop music). Personal eccentricity is not important with regard to any artistic endeavor (cf. Mozart's obsession with peristaltic sounds).
![Hamelin plays Scriabin - Piano Sonata No.5 [HIGH QUALITY]](/img/n.gif)
The way he hits the famous chord at 10:34 is, I think, the high point of Hamelin's playing. Compare it to any other performance -- especially those that slur it with the pedal. That chord is as ferocious, as uncanny, as anything Messiaen concocted.
It sounds like a glissando because Hamelin played all the notes so fast and fluently, but in real there is no kind of glissando which could possibly sound that way. It's not just black notes or white notes; it's a huge compilation of palm-sized, harmonic chords, divided between the hands. If you look at the score, there is an explanation how it should be played, actually. Scriabin did know what he was doing.
Definitely my favorite sonata. It's so emotionally charged. You have to give this piece many listenings, but it is so worth it. Everyone cites the chord, but my favorite moment is 9:40. Such an incredible climax, so emotionally charged, and a very different take on the motives played with throughout the enntire piece.
Wow. This is hellish. Not even kidding.
When Scriabin got older, he said, «My music more and more conforms to a universal law.» In 1910s, when his friends begged him to organize a meeting to discuss that law, he was very reluctant, hesitated, but once agreed. When everybody came, he paced up and down for a while and then said, «I’m not in the mood today. Please come another time». That time never came.
If THIS intricacy of magic intervals that almost fully fits into Scriabin’s law is «just a glissando», I have nothing to say.
Scriabin obviously was himself in composition. Who he really was can only be imagined through his music. It can be rough, but also beautiful. I love Scriabin because Ive learned to go to a place that is unreal and addictive through music. A place I can truly know myself outside of time over and over again. This sonata in particular does not touch me like Rach 18th variation from Paganini Rhapsody or make me wonder like Schubert’s Gflat impromptu...ThIs sonata has taught me think so much more critically and with such painful analysis...When I first embarked on trying to understand what Scriabin was communicating or whatever his works were purposed for; perhaps, he had none. But he did what so many fail to do. He had an idea that was his own, he wrote the first note, and then another, and another until he stopped. It takes bravery and a lot of humility to transform a figment of your imagination into something that others can then experience...and like or dislike...judge, criticize, scrutinize. Speaking for myself, my fear would be someone personally preferring something that isnt like mine. If I take a star from my universe and its light is too bright, weak, or isnt beautiful to even one mind, do I risk losing the universe and Her beauty in that She only
Appreciate this pieces in the Scriabin late style! th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html
and th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html
This year, January 6 marked the 150th anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Nikolaevich Scriabin. He is the person closest to me and beloved by me in the whole world of art, a composer who immerses with his magical music into the worlds of "the highest refinement and the highest grandeur." Having deeply passed through all his work, I learned to thoroughly reproduce the elements of the Scriabin style. In particular, the style of the works of his late creative period, sounding extraordinary, otherworldly, mystical...
Using specific means, first of all harmony (as well as texture and tempo), I can "scriabe" any piece, melody or motive accordingly, without changing at all or almost without changing the notes of the melodic line of the original.
And despite the fact that in this case I didn't even change a single note of the melody of the original holiday song "Happy birthday to you" th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html
, in the end it sounds completely different: now it's not a "home holiday", but the image of a nervous-impetuous strong-willed flame characteristic of Scriabin!
Also I "enchanted" the famous Christmas song "Jingle bells" th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html into a figurative sphere characteristic of Scriabin: now it is the most refined cosmic longing, gradually ecstatically excited, and then melting away...
You need ears to hear harmony in intricacy
Never heard anything like it! Beautiful!
By the way, that miraculous chord at 10:34 was actually not a glissando. All the notes were played by separate fingers.
Okay, you can close your mouth now.
Music constantly on the boundaries of human capability.
I love this performance - it is luscious and disturbed - as fits the music well
A splendid movement that is filled with a variety of moods and mystic ideas. In short, a very attractive work.
Jesus, that huge chord at 10:35 is so scriabinesque - a blinding flash of light!
you missed it by a few seconds lol
@@juicedelemon lol
Only gods can compose the miracle of 10:34.
After listening to Scriabin only for the whole summer and reading his philosophical views, I turned from orthodox christianity to atheism that relies on pure culture, ecstatic music and the infinite power of arts. If only Scriabin wrote the Mysterium, probably we would have been replaced by nobler beings by now.
Scriabin is so great that I even fall for his religion... the religion of enigmatic passages and godlike piano music.
I would like too hear a later performance of this sonata from Hamelin :)
Excellent performance!
magical
beautifully said and so true
MAH is the best! :D Great vid! ;)
Listening to this today was my Easter observance
+Jason Beque I spent most of last year walking in the woods and I took Scriabin with me. Nothing quite like collapsing at the top of a mountain with a pounding heart and Poem of Ecstasy climaxing in your ears.
How is this kind of piece composed? Is there some kind of format like in serialism, or does Scriabin just choose notes based on their colour? I can hear some 7th chords and some clear intervals, as well as some well defined scales at points. Does this kind of music have a tonal base?
+MUSIC EAT PEOPLE No, his later work is classified as atonal, from what I've read anyway.
Shannon DeLorme It is definitely atonal, but is there any structure to it like there is in serialism?
+MUSIC EAT PEOPLE I can't say for sure, I don't know much about Scriabin, I'm sure you could read up on it though. I think he composed a lot of this stuff based on synesthesia too.
+MUSIC EAT PEOPLE Scriabin's music is structured, if you study the score. It's hard to tell from listening, but if you look at the notes on the page the patterns are more obvious.
You can repeat notes/sections in serialism. It happens all the time.
Mysterium - that grandiose mystical act conceived by him, which all of Mankind would participate in. Gigantic changeable spherical volumes of a dome that rises to the Heavens, multimillion-strong choruses, incense, appealing to the sensory receptors, mysterious apparatuses, radiating invisible beams of light and unfamiliar to man wonderful colors - and his music, inducing in all of humanity an ecstatic state, and you believe he could pull that off? If you do, you're back to where you started.
Looks bloody difficult, and it's difficult to listen to too. I'm not sure if I like it, perhaps "like" is not the right word here. Got a feeling I'll be coming back to this one.
Would you happen to have any recommendations on what to read to delve into his philosophical views? Any handy salient readings or points? I have tried to read on theosophy, but the topic is so vast... I'm also interested in reading his poems, but could only find them in foreign languages. I'm probably not searching hard-enough, but your assistance would be much appreciated!!
gnosticism. his poemes can be found in the comments section of his sonatas here on yt translated
10.35: spider chord
10:35
+Raul Alzate I beg your forgiveness DOTtor
hahaha it is not that, i just wanted to link it so other people can go that time more easy.
ahahah I was just kidding a bit :D
Appreciate this pieces in the Scriabin late style! th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html
and th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html
This year, January 6 marked the 150th anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Nikolaevich Scriabin. He is the person closest to me and beloved by me in the whole world of art, a composer who immerses with his magical music into the worlds of "the highest refinement and the highest grandeur." Having deeply passed through all his work, I learned to thoroughly reproduce the elements of the Scriabin style. In particular, the style of the works of his late creative period, sounding extraordinary, otherworldly, mystical...
Using specific means, first of all harmony (as well as texture and tempo), I can "scriabe" any piece, melody or motive accordingly, without changing at all or almost without changing the notes of the melodic line of the original.
And despite the fact that in this case I didn't even change a single note of the melody of the original holiday song "Happy birthday to you" th-cam.com/video/nEOSPz9gB9s/w-d-xo.html
, in the end it sounds completely different: now it's not a "home holiday", but the image of a nervous-impetuous strong-willed flame characteristic of Scriabin!
Also I "enchanted" the famous Christmas song "Jingle bells" th-cam.com/video/mz5lSLvuUSc/w-d-xo.html into a figurative sphere characteristic of Scriabin: now it is the most refined cosmic longing, gradually ecstatically excited, and then melting away...
I guess all the non-pianists are mesmerized by the big chord. If it were written out as a very fast arpeggio would everyone still be impressed? Call me cynical, but it's just a chord folks. And that's not a dig on Scriabin or anything. Lots of nice material in this piece.
You thought I was not serious?!
Good.
fastest player of sonatas 5&7
0:09
Yeah, because _that_ makes sense, either in itself as a logical statement or in the fact that Scriabin was certainly not an atheist. Plenty of quacks wrote great music - Scriabin was one of them. Enjoy the music - revel in it even - but don't deny the beauty and cohesion of your faith for the ramblings of a man who most certainly was insane.
la fameuse messe blanche
Emily; Maybe "La Bolduc" should fit better to your goal.... "Bent enough"...!
réellement hideuse cette sonate
Scriabin wasn't an atheist.
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You are..... ill put your age at around 17. Smart, very smart for your age though. Although dare i say it, you should be listening to impressionism. haha
I find it quite hellish, what I cannot find is the eucharist among all these cHOrDS
Lucas Pichuaga Not that kind of "white"!
10:34 was just a glissando -- what is so special to you about it???
It most assuredly is not a glissando. The notes sounded are exactly as the score shows, and it is impossible to play them as a glissando. It is just Hamelin's incredible technique that makes it sound almost like a glissando.
His music is incredible, pure genius years ahead of his time, but I have to say I don't think much of his philosophy... how can a man, no matter how brilliant, confuse himself with God?
He was schizophrenic at the end of his life
Scriabin's a great composer but definitely not a god...
it sounds just like a glissando -- scriabin wasted his time creating this chord.
pianist or Composer has bad -sence . If I were, I don't make such music. very "mall " music.
I can't understand what this noiz want to say (to us ).
Yes I am sure that like late Liszt he has advanced into music recognition by his worthless eccentricity; I do not doubt that some listeners find pleasure in listening to this rubbish but really what is the worth? Mr Hamelin has wasted technique and valuable time in preparing this piece for an excellent performance...
Every mood is entitled to be given a sonic whirl, ecstasy (Scriabin) as well as indifference (Afroamerican dominated pop music). Personal eccentricity is not important with regard to any artistic endeavor (cf. Mozart's obsession with peristaltic sounds).