We Play CEDH! Slicer vs. Blue Farm vs. Najeela vs. Winota | Commander Clash S15E9

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  • @tessagillingham6918
    @tessagillingham6918 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    We love Tomer talking about being a pioneer of Slicer decks, and then forgetting Slicer's first line of text 20 minutes later.

    • @MTGGoldfishCommander
      @MTGGoldfishCommander  ปีที่แล้ว +194

      Do you expect a Slicer player to read???

    • @HypnoticGG
      @HypnoticGG ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ironically, the first time he played it, he touted himself as a genius when the cheaper cost was pointed out, lol. Everyone forgets it to be fair.

    • @mightyone3737
      @mightyone3737 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tomer Tomering is very Tomer.

    • @rosavanopheusden5211
      @rosavanopheusden5211 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MTGGoldfishCommander just in case you bring it back, don't forget that if you don't give slicer away, it goes back into vehicle mode, and you can't give it away while it's in vehicle mode; in other words, you can't pick and choose who to give it to, you either have to give it all the time or you can't give it at all!

    • @AutkastKain
      @AutkastKain ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The comedic value is so good

  • @jdh100000
    @jdh100000 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Watching them play cEDH is like watching your grandparents try to hook up a wifi router.

    • @tmain1320
      @tmain1320 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It’s great going from play to win/playing with power to watching this. But I still love every second of it!

    • @nicholas8739
      @nicholas8739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah. Tomer should have explained stuff to the crew. These guys are so clueless

    • @wanny225
      @wanny225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As a CASUAL Slicer player, it was painful to see Tomer's misplays hahahaha like physically painful

    • @RafaelPanazzo
      @RafaelPanazzo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, I think grandparents setting up wifi would be better. This actually looks like grandparents playing cEDH 😂 omg

  • @mollyfeuerman1993
    @mollyfeuerman1993 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    What I really need is an edited version of this match with a cEDH player narrating what each optimal play would look like over the course of this match, followed by the actual play

    • @jonaswilliams9755
      @jonaswilliams9755 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'd be happy to do that if there weren't 97 minutes of footage. XD

    • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
      @NewSchoolPOKERstrat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m a cedh player. This was a travesty 😂

  • @heraclies325
    @heraclies325 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The irony of Crim hard tilting from a single stax piece while playing a stax deck is deafening.

  • @chadcharest9891
    @chadcharest9891 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Tomer doing his little Slicer dance while everyone tries to reason with each other about how to not die to Slicer.

  • @WikiED
    @WikiED ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Blood Moon in 2nd game was def correct as Seth needed Vtutor to not be out of the game and it put both Richard and Crim out of the game. 6/6 lifelinker is strong but it'd have to stay back with Slicer on board so it's not an issue once Slicer appears.
    The real mistake (prob with hindsight) was Crim not playing the Magistrate as it'd have blocked both Tomer and Seth from using Commanders but on turn 1 you could argue it was not a bad choice to wait 1 turn before playing it.

    • @simons6110
      @simons6110 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      crim not playing magistrate was a huge mistake. but with crim making that mistake tomer could have turned this table completly with a t1 frontside splicer

    • @OlAgony
      @OlAgony ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Crim is just not good at this format but doesnt wanna admit to it. Given the line of play of him not choosing to play the Dranith T1, he should've then not fetched immediately, and get more information before fetching since he doesnt even need the mana for anything.

  • @shadowpsyke
    @shadowpsyke ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Karn crowd surfing edit was sublime. Thank you for that, Editor!

  • @VRanger100
    @VRanger100 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Commander Clash: Gosh darn it. We only have a 97 minute video this week.
    Editor Niuttuc: Oh thank god.

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He got that Crowdsurf the Karn in on there though

    • @hanschristopherson8056
      @hanschristopherson8056 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cause these guys normally play waay too many boardwipes

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hanschristopherson8056 Play no boardwipes so that you lose faster, the master plan

  • @dh47376
    @dh47376 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I gotta say: for someone who likes griefer decks, Crim certainly salts off and throws games a lot, often from his own mistakes and misplays.
    Regarding game 2, Drannith Magistrate shuts off Underworld Breach, and as we saw, the combo decks' backup plans involve their commanders. There's no reason to be coy about your cards in cEDH if you're Winota. Just jam your creatures and hate cards. Play to the board; that's how you win.
    Once Crim decides not to play his t1 hate piece, Tomer is also absolutely correct to jam Blood Moon on turn 1 because he's playing against two 4-5 colour combo decks and has a reasonable follow-up in t2 Slicer.
    Seth may have won anyway because he had the right tutor and made a reasonable decision with it, but for all Crim's complaining about kingmaking, his spite plays only took Tomer (who made a reasonable play) out of the game and made a Seth/Richard victory inevitable.

    • @Spaced92
      @Spaced92 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well yeah that's everyone that plays griefer decks lol

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@Spaced92and why he isn't a good cEDH player. Hell I'll go as far as to say that he isn't a good player to play with in general. Every single game he does nothing but spite plays or hyper focuses Tomer.

    • @brunodebarrosgoncalves1560
      @brunodebarrosgoncalves1560 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Crim played really bad both games. And tomer played to his alt correctly. Sadly he had the worst deck.

    • @dh47376
      @dh47376 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@edwarddavidson868 What if, and I know this might sound insane, but what if it's cEDH week and players should be playing to win? Tomer says at one point that he's surprised because he would expect Crim to play to his outs, and Tomer is correct. Salting off and griefing another player is fine in other weeks where games are slower and more interactive and no one is playing stax, but that wasn't this week.
      What if, and I know this might sound insane, but what if the content produced when one player screws up, then spends the rest of the game accusing another player of kingmaking while kingmaking -- what if that's unpleasant content?

    • @austinsalmons3187
      @austinsalmons3187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol@@dh47376

  • @c0barsm
    @c0barsm ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Just seeing Seth sitting there with 4 tutors in his hand and him just saying "Hmmmmmm" is exactly what I feel like when I try and play a new cEDH deck.

  • @MurasakiTama
    @MurasakiTama ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I wish Crim had held up the goblin cratermaker to threaten to kill Najeela instead of guaranteeing that neither he nor Tomer would be able win. I feel like it would have been a more balanced game. Nonetheless these were really fun to watch and would be happy to see more cEDH content.

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Spite plays has no place in cEDH. It's why Crim is a bad cEDH player. Also politics has very little place in cEDH.

    • @Thewallace7347
      @Thewallace7347 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@atk9989politics is still very important in cedh. Knowing when to make your opponents interact and gatting people to work together to stop someone from winning is very important. Ive seen plenty of games where a stax deck a control deck sit down and just acknowledge that them suddenly teaming up garrenttes them the win

    • @shinobu-39
      @shinobu-39 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There's actually some merit to that move. If Tomer then played Slicer the turn after, Crim would've died to it even earlier like what happened in the last game because he doesn't have a viable board. Either way, with the Blood Moon out, Crim was out of that game.
      What I will complain about is not playing Drannith turn 1. Even though it looked like it would help Richard, I would've rolled with it.

  • @anythingarax
    @anythingarax ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We finally got an enthusiastic Clash On from Seth, the dozens of us did in fact enjoy that

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Forgot to mention. I love the intro. I'm a big fan of learning about decks during the game. So not having an enormously long intro with explanations is sweet.

  • @brandonchristner1520
    @brandonchristner1520 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Seth, Crim, and Richard:“intellectual magic banter”
    Tomer: “slice, slice, slice”

    • @nicholas8739
      @nicholas8739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About as intellectual as a person who studied Yugioh thinking it was Magic.

  • @foxokon94
    @foxokon94 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The blood moon would have been good if Crim didn’t spite. He might even have won the game but with the tutor and 0 pressure seth got the free win.

  • @terrencemurphy380
    @terrencemurphy380 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Cedh week would be better if they not only the read the primers but watched videos of others playing their deck before the game. Missed najeela derevi combos and crim not slamming down his winota game 1 was painful.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He didn't have the creature count / mana to pull off the Najeela+Derevi and Crim slamming Winota G1 wouldn't have made a difference because Seth was holding up Swords. (Although he should have played it for sure)

  • @taylorjones1641
    @taylorjones1641 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Tomer’s play game 2 was objectively correct. Slicer would have been a very decent play, but in that position, with the board and no knowledge of hands, the lock piece was insanely good. Unfortunately salty spite plays were made rather than CEDH-minded plays so the game devolved the way it did.

  • @SantaCatcher9000
    @SantaCatcher9000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t know what was funnier, Tomer being super excited to play a deck and forgetting to read the commander or Crim, the man who gets off to shutting ppl down not playing the drannith game 2

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And then spite playing after he is on the receiving end for once.

  • @VRanger100
    @VRanger100 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Really loving the choices of decks this week. They're all pretty common to see at an average cEDH pod, so it'll be nice to see how the "casual" Commander Clash crew pilot them this week. In the past, the crew bring somewhat complicated combo decks that'll want a primer nearby but the ones this week are pretty straightforward.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the primer is less important than the basic meta of cEDH. They need to get out of the mindset of sitting back and actually play for the win. (And to aggressively stax out the board vs the combo players)

  • @jamiekuryla3940
    @jamiekuryla3940 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Crim , I think you should have done Drannith Magistrate turn 1, in game 2

  • @MonsterCC
    @MonsterCC ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Its really fun to watch yall navigate the decks, also cool to see a CEDH game in real time, not cut down to just the spells. Dig the slick edits of the CEDH channels but its nice to hear all the politics and banter.

  • @as95ms98
    @as95ms98 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I unironically love clash on and never want it to stop.

  • @mksm0k3
    @mksm0k3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The second "Clash on!" was necessary Seth! Dont you hear the audience cheer🎉

  • @evaman0182
    @evaman0182 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i made a Slicer deck after watching Tomer first use it, it was the terror of my play group for a while. i've retired it for another deck, but i kinda want to bring it back now, since as we saw in this game Tomer just sat back and watched everyone duke it out

  • @WushuTaz
    @WushuTaz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:39 Don't worry Tomer. I heard you and laughed. 😆
    It's fun seeing you guys really trying to win and at the same time working as a team to make sure someone doesn't win. lol

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn0416 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Slicer adds such a sweet puzzle to all games he is in

  • @chancebates8041
    @chancebates8041 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    We love a good cedh week

    • @RumpledNutskin
      @RumpledNutskin ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You're in the wrong place if you're looking for a "good" cedh week

    • @RumpledNutskin
      @RumpledNutskin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@edwarddavidson868 I'd rather watch non cedh over people who have literally zero experience with complex decks

    • @dee-wreck
      @dee-wreck ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RumpledNutskin who?

    • @gibbysg8143
      @gibbysg8143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really a fan of cedh tbh. I don’t really get the appeal of being overly sweaty playing a cardboard card game in my leisure time

    • @RumpledNutskin
      @RumpledNutskin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gibbysg8143 it isn't about being "overly sweaty." It's about playing to win, not playing to just play. You don't have to worry about politics in the same way, you don't have to worry about hurt feelings, or deck power level. Everyone is there to try and win. It feels like a completely different game

  • @psychozen7169
    @psychozen7169 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Watching Richard paying for a free spell was so painful. Game two screaming at crim cast dranith.

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think Seth doesn't realize how Derevi can combo with Najeela... Lol.

    • @Jonzin4BeatzNYC
      @Jonzin4BeatzNYC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Came to the comments for this
      I don't think any of them realized it or they kept it to themselves to not give it away

  • @noahpetrasko6777
    @noahpetrasko6777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always fun to watch newer or more casual players try out cedh! Lots of growing pains, of course, but that just goes with the territory.

    • @noahpetrasko6777
      @noahpetrasko6777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Edit: how the hell is the boros deck that runs magus of the moon the one complaining about a blood moon lmao. I think Winona player should consider why they kept a 1 land hand with no acceleration to get to winota. Additionally why did they fetch t1 and then not play the dranith? Just confusing plays all around, followed by complaining about the consequences of their own decisions.

  • @peterhardiman7333
    @peterhardiman7333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ten seconds in and Seth already called his commander a totally different name...lol

  • @Ov3rmind1
    @Ov3rmind1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked this video for Richard's enthusiastic "Transform! BrtBrtBrt! Convert!"

  • @NoNo-qt4ov
    @NoNo-qt4ov ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Havent watched in a while. Nothing like a good CEDH week to bring me back

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    slicer in cedh is the equivalent of playing plain chase in regular commander. no one actually wants to do it after having seen 1 turn cycle with it but now is stuck deciding what is the least worse option

  • @TheFireMnky
    @TheFireMnky ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thinking about the first game a little bit, I was curious if anyone thought that casting Winota at 29:33 would have been a good move or not. It forces Seth to have to use the swords to plowshares that they know about on Winota and not on the stacks pieces. Then Crim can attack Richard thinking that Seth would probably attack Richard and kill him too. Then Seth has to fight through all those stacks pieces while also facing down potential death from a Slicer. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and we have access to their hands as viewers, but I think even with the information they had, it seems pretty safe and a way to help secure victory.

    • @karateLynge
      @karateLynge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He should have. Would have been 3 triggers for All he knew. :)

    • @MTGGoldfishCommander
      @MTGGoldfishCommander  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Personally I would have slammed the Winota there. Pretty much everyone was tapped out. Seems like if you don't use Winota there you probably don't play it at all that game. I think you just go for it and hope for the best.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The correct play is definitely to play the Winota (even if it would have gotten StP'd). The main mistake was Richard killing Crim since Seth had already resolved an intuition and told the table he was being shut down by Aven Mindcensor (suggesting he had tutors to complete the combo).

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how Slicer's text says
    *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able*
    *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able*
    *Attacks a player other than Doctor Anime if able*

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt ปีที่แล้ว

      In a robot voice

  • @trentonsimpson2621
    @trentonsimpson2621 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love seeing Tomer dancing in the bottom right, while everyone else is pulling out their best politics.
    This is so entertaining!

  • @justinveron698
    @justinveron698 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I highly enjoy it when they play CEDH!

  • @nicholasrolo886
    @nicholasrolo886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Najeela the.....broken blade?

  • @BlightDragonBrewery
    @BlightDragonBrewery ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I laughed so hard on that Aven Mindcensor 💀

  • @LVL99Totodile
    @LVL99Totodile ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Crim: is playing boros, fetches a dual land early after choosing to make NO PLAYS, spends the rest of the game spite playing and complaining about blood moon... Seems like the kind of person I would avoid playing with at all costs in my own playgroup.

  • @vividsyntax5301
    @vividsyntax5301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad y'all are trying out different types of games. That said, one CEDH episode per season is plenty for me.

  • @TheIronRegalia
    @TheIronRegalia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crim on every podcast: I want people to feel the salt, I bath in the salt, live for it.
    Crim plays against one stax piece: I am the saltiest, butthurt player of all time.

  • @jrjamesson
    @jrjamesson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    slicer seems like a neat fun little game-within-the-game that is fun for the player to sit back and watch but also tear all friendships apart

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how hard everyone is thinking how to not die and Tomer is just vibing. God I love red

  • @Alessandro-vv2fh
    @Alessandro-vv2fh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The funniest thing is that the closer thing to "control" in cEDH is traditionally stax, and Crim immediately took Winota.

  • @nicbui
    @nicbui ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tomer not turn 1 slicer in cedh is a huge miss. Smh

    • @mauiamaru6547
      @mauiamaru6547 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he couldn't t1 slicer anyway, t2 seemed risky acknowledging there was derevi and serra ascendat on board... He played the most optimal way imo

    • @kylarcheng1346
      @kylarcheng1346 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mauiamaru6547 I think the comment meant game 2

  • @adamastuckey8821
    @adamastuckey8821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I luv how Tomer didn't even think to try and play ruination to blow up every land except his mountains.

  • @MrGrovak
    @MrGrovak ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tomer's hand chops were so funny, best part of the episode.

  • @IzzetTempo
    @IzzetTempo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Turn 2 why is tomer saying he can't slicer?? Mishra's workshop casts slicer with the one other mountain, yeah?

  • @strika234
    @strika234 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tomer had the turn 1 slicer game 2 and blood mooned instead!! sd;fjsadf;lkjsa;lkjfd

    • @nicbui
      @nicbui ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huge miss. Very disappointing to watch

  • @barnburner1238
    @barnburner1238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Timer hitting a mean dab in the thumbnail

  • @clintonmoore9783
    @clintonmoore9783 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prime summoner’s pact target in Seth’s deck is Derevi if your board can reliably get five combat damage triggers

  • @wchenful
    @wchenful ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the cEDH content! Would love to see you guys try out some Sisay or Tayam next! ♥

    • @WushuTaz
      @WushuTaz ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely read the primers on those decks and get a few games in first. Tayam has an entire game theory break down in it which I find very valuable.

  • @winssports4830
    @winssports4830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crim with the unnecessary spite play when Tomer made the correct play. Yeah he couldve played slicer but it wouldnt have been enough and Richard and Seth wouldve been completely unlocked. Crim played really badly and then took his frustrations out on Tomer.

  • @ShadWickBrand
    @ShadWickBrand ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, this new style of snappy intro is just so nice.

  • @jonathanosagie1829
    @jonathanosagie1829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would love to see more cedh content

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the deck choices guys

  • @kbobMTG1983
    @kbobMTG1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just won a game last week with Serra Ascendant. Turn one Serra is freaking brutal!!!!

  • @TimPlay-eq6ng
    @TimPlay-eq6ng ปีที่แล้ว +2

    T1 Bloodmoon was the correct play.

  • @krazedcosmo
    @krazedcosmo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is Crim drawing and playing more lands on CEDH week than on normal weeks? Lol

  • @arivald6677
    @arivald6677 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:00:00 Not a pro CEDH but Land + Mox on Guide, take that 2 mana to turn it into 3. Cast Blood Mon lock out rest of players from the game and then next turn, Slice it up!

  • @FuturePreference
    @FuturePreference ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please more cEDH episodes! =)

  • @amarauk9687
    @amarauk9687 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why complicate your life with breach lines when you can go infinite with your commander and derevi

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a much tougher win condition to meet. Najeela + Derevi requires both of them to be on board along with the ability to 5 mana (so usually a few more creatures or untapped lands) and a successful combat with no opposing interaction. It's usually plan B after everyone uses up their interaction to stop the naus/breach lines.

  • @arkadiuszzwolenik
    @arkadiuszzwolenik ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When will you guys do the colorless clash?

  • @HypnoticGG
    @HypnoticGG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I can't Slicer!"
    Uh, you have a T2 workshop, and can cast Slicer for the More Than Meets the Eye cost of 3 mana.

  • @ChichimonLeagues
    @ChichimonLeagues ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting to find out why blue farm is called that but Richard's explanation at 23:18 doesn't make any sense because tymna and bruse is a mardu deck. Unless he means to tell us there was a mardu cEDH deck called "farm" and blue farm is the variation you get from adding blue to it by subbing out the weaker partner for kraum.

  • @DylanHunter64
    @DylanHunter64 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not really a fan of Crim's spite play G2. Obviously he can do what he wants, but it's not really cedh mentality and just comes across as petty.

  • @WikiED
    @WikiED ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Crim with the classic "don't kill me i'm stopping him" meanwhile failing to grasp that he is stopping everyone while slicer clock is ticking so there so no reason to keep him alive as he is just preventing progressing gameplan or dealing with slicer. If you can't progress the gameplan why would you care about stopping others, you gamble to win instead of wait to lose.

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's Crims play style he's use to playing safe until he has the win instead of going for the win. Unless he has Akromas Will he generally doesn't finish games.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was 100% correct. Seth had already resolved an intuition. The slicer kill will take out one person before the guaranteed breach win. Richard should have kept Crim's stax in the game if he wanted to have a chance of winning.

    • @WikiED
      @WikiED 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wchenful lol, i'm not reading any replies to any "1 year ago" comments, you might agree with me, you might not, why would i care, i could be dead at this point yet you're replying to me about sth i dont even remember. i might just delete the main comment too. have fun replying to other "last seen X years ago" comments

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WikiED I like to educate 😂. Feel free to ignore if you like.

    • @WikiED
      @WikiED 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wchenful educate ppl under recent videos, not ones that could possibly be corpses as it's been a long time. Also to educate it's assuming i remember what are you talking about in the first place. you're living in the past, come to the future, i'm sure there are things to educate under recent stuff.
      I guess it's also possible you were looking for comment no one would reply to so you could feel like you got a win(?). Regardless of what your reason was replying to over an year old comment is just ridiculous and i never had nor ever will have any respect to ppl doing that.

  • @AdamKeeton
    @AdamKeeton ปีที่แล้ว

    @Richard Another eggcorn I heard you use was "I got off scotch-free" when it is "I got off scot-free" (a Scot was an English tax implemented in medieval times)

  • @T_Peazy
    @T_Peazy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Crim spite killing tower's mox is some casual weak sauce.

    • @colecarmichael5724
      @colecarmichael5724 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m okay with the play if he didn’t have dranith magistrate in hand which also hosed him..strange play for sure

  • @mustardmushroom4390
    @mustardmushroom4390 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Enjoyed watching you guys play cEDH… but that Blood Moon play in Game 2 is the reason why stax pieces can be so dangerous in the wrong hands

  • @crimsonking6008
    @crimsonking6008 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the reference to beasties great call back

  • @Supermanisdeadman
    @Supermanisdeadman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's no room for spite plays in cEDH.

  • @MrJpurvis620
    @MrJpurvis620 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seth loves his 5-color decks

  • @Nathanael_Forlorn
    @Nathanael_Forlorn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheerios are not global.
    I've heard about them in American media, but never seen them anywhere in Europe.

    • @swebartender4697
      @swebartender4697 ปีที่แล้ว

      well I have seen cherrios in a couple of european countries, so either you haven't really looked for them or they don't sell in your country

  • @cerealforserious
    @cerealforserious 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This went from everyone make fun of tomer's deck to everyone run from tomer's deck so fast 🤣

  • @Tspang42
    @Tspang42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just screaming the whole first game that derevi combos with najeela😂😂

  • @nathanw4692
    @nathanw4692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    54:06 my favourite part of the video.

  • @aethermech4585
    @aethermech4585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    turn 1 blood moon is always the right play :)

  • @shonmatthew
    @shonmatthew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Seth would of only cast his commander earlier in game one he could of threatened a win with derevi untapping his lands for combat combo win.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah, his play was correct. The breach line is much faster than Najeela+Derevi which takes multiple combats (since he didn't have enough creatures or mana on the board)

  • @Red_Mag3
    @Red_Mag3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw a Slicer deck, clicked play as you do

    • @Red_Mag3
      @Red_Mag3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ... okay 2 turns in and no Slicer played, I'm in pain now

    • @percyvile
      @percyvile ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pahaha same

  • @phredlane9081
    @phredlane9081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From cEDH back to causal with the spite plays. The first game was good though.

  • @tmain1320
    @tmain1320 ปีที่แล้ว

    More then one game!?!??? Oh I love it!

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an avid cedh player I would say you guys have a fundamental flaw in your game play. You mulligan to passively. In cedh you aggressively mulligan for an absolutely fire of a hand.

  • @jefftaylor8077
    @jefftaylor8077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Game 2 is proof that Crim should stick to non cEDH games. Lol.

  • @felipeguidolin1055
    @felipeguidolin1055 ปีที่แล้ว

    When she invites you for some Chill and Edh, but her parents show up out of nowhere with some Turbo Stax...

  • @Stupidexport
    @Stupidexport ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it was absolutely a spite play, but isnt using the cratermaker to make sure you arent run over by slicer in the next turn cycle playing to your outs?

  • @odditiescollector4540
    @odditiescollector4540 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing the thought processes from everyone it would be interesting seeing a game where its pseudo two headed giant where each player plays a deck that requires another play keeping someone else in check to win
    so the idea is each person know who they need to keep alive last to win so they have to balance not letting them get too far ahead but also not to fall behind

  • @hellmans_fury490
    @hellmans_fury490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn't tomer play ruination on the first game right before Seth won? If he was worried Seth had a counter that goes against his philosophy of not playing scared lol. Gotta make them have it! That would've been a game winning line, i feel forcing the swords was the wrong move.

    • @Amprae
      @Amprae 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He only had 3 mana for ruination workshop can only pay for artifacts, ruination costs 4, he even said in the game that he wished he had 1 more land

  • @danchristiansen1753
    @danchristiansen1753 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Game 2, Tomer: Darksteel, Mox pitching blood moon, pyretic ritual, SLICER; Lotus Petal, Commander Plate, Pitch Simian Spirit Guide, EQUIP and ATTACK on turn one! Pretty sure you would have had a lot more fun with this line of play.

    • @wchenful
      @wchenful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He made the correct play. Slicer and Winota have very little chance winning vs. Blue Farm or Najeela unless they stax them out. In a regular cEDH game, it would have been Crim > Drannith into Tomer > Blood Moon which would pretty much guarantee the red decks a few free turns to develop vs. the combo decks. As you might have noticed, life total means very little in cEDH early on other than being a card-draw resource (the Serra Ascendants were largely irrelevant - so an early Slicer isn't super threatening until you Stax out all the removal)

  • @mateosalazar846
    @mateosalazar846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zed missing that najeela and derevi are a combo killed me xd

    • @karateLynge
      @karateLynge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was somewhat lucky for him that he didnt realize that najeela was the right play turn two rather than derevi, because of pyroblast. Even so, it felt wild to just see a random derevi on an empty board, and none of Them knowing about such a common combo. I like the content, but feel like they should read the primers for the decks. :)

    • @mateosalazar846
      @mateosalazar846 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karateLynge agreed the correct line of play would have ended with zed been blown up by the pyro. Yeah agreed that they should read the primer at least, it was kinda weird seeing the conversation about najeela on game 2

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That might be the worst blood moon I've ever seen lol.

  • @mtg1022
    @mtg1022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a Winota cEDH deck I love it really cool seeing crim play a deck that has 90% the sames cards have played hundreds of game with Winota and the deck is so addictive

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tomer can finally play slicer again at power level

  • @twhite9615
    @twhite9615 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG Tomer! Love to see your original decks, especially in cEDH. I wanna try this slicer deck. It looks like soooo much fun!

  • @TemKhan
    @TemKhan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone get these guys a tour guide 😭

  • @MTGFaded
    @MTGFaded หลายเดือนก่อน

    58:30 you ALWAYS without a doubt 100% guaranteed every single time turn one a dranith when your playing against slicer

  • @iluvbacon610
    @iluvbacon610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great wins Seth! Glad to see you all having fun playing some of the strongest decks this format has to offer! As a friendly reminder Derevi is there to go infinite with najeela herself! Najeela makes a warrior for every warrior that is declared attacking which she herself is a warrior to start things off! Derevi lets you untap lands on combat damage and if you have all your colors you can order the Derevi triggers to untap your lands and then tap it for the rainbow mana needed to activate najeela. This can be done with a single rainbow land as well by floating the mana between the Derevi untap triggers! Najeela's math is that you only need 6 combats to kill the table if there are no blockers. The summoner's pact you were questioning in Game 2 is actually there so you can get a copy of Derevi for 0 mana for a potential win on the spot.
    The usual intuition pile is often sevinnes, breach, and LED. This way, no matter what card is chosen you can always at least flash back the sevinnes to get back breach. With enough cards in the GY you can then use LED mana to potentially then use intuition again from the GY to find Brain freeze. What great in Najeela though is your intuition pile can change based on board state or which win (breach or najeela) you are trying for. I've intuitioned for derevi, dockside, and sevinnes as a way to win with najeela or in tough spots you can often tutor for sevinnes, rhystic study, mystic remora to guarantee a card draw engine.
    Glad to see her perform well and hopefully you had a lot of fun playing her!

  • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
    @NewSchoolPOKERstrat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slicer deals 21 commander damage on the first turn sycle then it is 24 each turn after. Every player can swing w it and there are 4 players