What is the WORST Possible Pokemon Type Combination?
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Would love to see the fixing bug type vid!
looking forward to type patch notes
Bug and ice
i dont think its the worst but rock ground is pretty bad
Rock and ice fosho
The final nail in Ice-type's coffin was the introduction of Fairy-type. Ice-type's main strength was it being the safest thing to use against Dragon-type.
We need another type lol
if Ice had a resistance to Ground, Dragon, Water and/or lost its weakness to Rock-type attacks then it would certainly be more viable. AT LEAST if Hail increased the power of Ice-type moves then Ice-types would certainly gain more viability.
@@unholyrat3909 I’d say just make it immune to water typing. Ice would freeze water so it makes sense. Rock just be normal damage.
@@unholyrat3909 Rock type weakness makes sense logically tho however I do agree it would surely help it with ground and flying resistance
@@hellohello2.054 rock should be weak to ice though since ice froming inside rocks is what smashed apart giant boulders
The intro was amazing. "Do I not have an obligation to call upon the weakest type combos?" Poetic
Thank you
@@WolfeyVGC well done
@@WolfeyVGC also, I do think that the bug type fix video would be interesting, not that gamefreak would actually do it lol
That was A "Jab" at Poison types
@@WolfeyVGC Number 2 in this list is a Hisuian form too. You did it again.
Honestly, when I learned about the Fairy type when it was new, I was so mad that it resisted Bug. I just thought WOW like Bug doesn't already have so much against it 💀 the heck were they thinking?
It doesnt really make sense either
@@jauume it kinda does since mythologically speaking, fairies live and sometimes even control bugs. However, I wish it was dual way resistance, because bugs do live with fairies, bugs should resist fairy as well.
@@hiccupasterisk Humans live with bugs too. Do we get bug resistance?
U-Turn shenanigans.
@@chrismanuel9768 yeah its called Raid
Fun fact - in gen 1, bug was weak to poison, so gen 1 paras and parasect are the only Pokémon to this day that have 3 4x weaknesses
Unless the super effective chart changes, adding a new type or changing existing resistances and weaknesses, that's a record that cannot be matched.
Dont they still have now??
Fire
Flying
Ice
@@SaimBinHassanRizvi Bug isn't weak to ice
@@SaimBinHassanRizvi ice is not super effective against bug
@@SaimBinHassanRizvibug I'd not weak to ice
Would love to hear a professionals opinions on how to buff a given type, or even how to nerf a type that is considered too strong
I concur
Generally, pros are actually pretty bad at balancing a game. It seems like they would be good because they know so much about the game, but there's actually very little overlap between the skills involved.
That being said, I've thought it would be interesting if the Water-Ice dynamic was flipped. It would make more sense to me if Water was weak to Ice and Ice resisted Water. It would help out Ice's identity of Special Defense and make Water a bit more fragile.
Imo, Ice should be buffed to resist everything it’s supper effective against (with the exception of ground), and water
@@Majoraspersona It doesn't make sense to me and I think if anything I'd just hurt the Ice typing even more....
It just doesn't make sense to me why everyone thinks it makes sense for Water types to be weak to Ice since many Water types and their real life inspirations don't care for the cold and if anything thrive it it, if Water types were to be weak to Ice I'd be the equivalent of Ice types being found in the molten lava of an active volcano!
"Yay, Water types are weak to Ice" just another reason for every offensive Water type and their mother to slap on Ice Beam and feed off the Ice typings Offensive capability, I personally think I'd just be best if Water and Ice type just resisted eachother similar to Fighting and Bug or make Ice defensively resistant to Water and Ice offensively neutral to Water~
@Big Bär I never understood why fairy resists bug. I guess bug was too OP prior to gen 6 so it had to be nerfed along side dragon.
Ice should really resist Grass and Flying types, it wouldn’t be too far fetched and would give ice slightly more body
I still don't understand why Ice isn't super effective against water. The whole point of the type is that it controls water under solid state AND it has the ability to solidify it. Shouldn't that mean it's super strong agains water, like can control water?
but that would just make grass an even worse typing
@@Ketler47 there is an ice move that does super effective damage to water called freeze-dry though
I've seen this suggestion many times before, and while I agree that Ice needs a buff, I don't think it ought to be at the expense of Flying, Grass, or bug types(You didn't mention them, I've just seen the suggestion myself). Flying is already one of the most balanced types, in my opinion, and Grass and Bug types are the last types that need a nerf. Instead, how about Ice resisting Water and Ground? It makes intuitive sense and provides a nerf to 2 mighty types.
@@Ketler47 but water is warmer than ice so it melts it
Neutral damage makes sense in that way
Even after 8 years it never gets any easier accepting the fact they made Fairy resist Bug
Yeah, it was so Fairy didn't resemble Psychic "too much".
11:31
Bug-Grass is so bad that it's the only type combo to have 3 quad weaknesses at one point because Poison was super effective against Bug ( definitely made sense but they removed it because Bug was just completely trash ). Poison wasn't a big deal back then either, Flying and Fire definitely were
On the other hand, double-resisting the powerful Ground type is one positive. In a sea of negatives, admittedly, but I'd take Bug/Grass over the abysmally mismatched Ice/Rock.
@@gengarzilla1685 Ice Rock at least is really good on the offensive, bug\grass on the other hand is pretty redundant and has terrible coverage, and this is coming from someone who loves Leavanny
Wouldn't it be four in Gen 1? Fire, Flying, Ice, and Poison?
@@darkknight5541 Ice wasn't super effective against Bug. It has 3 4x weaknesses ( Fire, Flying, and Poison ) and 3 2x weaknesses ( Ice, Bug, and Rock )
Aren't some bugs poisonous, though?
Honestly, it goes to show that one of Ice's biggest issues is how confusingly designed it is. Ah yes, let's have a type that has a lot of offensive coverage but poor defensive coverage. Alright, alright, good, good. Now let's make a majority of them slow as fuck, with mediocre attacking stats, and decent bulk! Quite frankly, the type needs some resistances, badly.
nah, not really.
Ice and Rock are two types which are designed to be slapped on dual type mons, as evidenced in Generation 1 where almost every Ice Type was also Water (exception: Jynx) and almost every Rock type was also Ground (Exception: Aerodactyl). The attacking types are almost designed to be used by Bulky Waters and Ground mons as well for extra coverage from related types.
Ice and Rock being stellar Offensive Types was fine, this is also the reason Steel was only super effective against precisely those two - it was meant as a good defensive typing but trash offensive typing. Poison also falls into this category, and it's the reason both types have tons of secondary effects on their moves with Poison debuffing the enemy and steel buffing yourself in many moves until Fairy devalidated the whole goddamn metagame.
Bug types are a different story. The type was designed to be fast-evolving early game pokemon which would bring you stat advantages until level 20 where you switch to better types. Vice versa, dragons usually evolve really late but were the de facto best type for quite a while until GF decided to be REALLY lazy with the balancing.
Fixing Bug is a beast. There's some changes which would make no sense on the logical paper anymore which would be good for the balance.
Bug should resist water for instance to be much more of a good type to have instead of only a liability. Bug should not be weak to rock anymore. And just to flip the Finger to GF make it resist Fairy, I think that's a big one. Fairy should also be weak to something else, I think it's very dumb that it's effective to Dark.
@@ddlc_monika Except there was no dual typing in gen 1, so that point is just not true.
@@groose_streams9115 Literally No 1 in the Pokedex, Bulbasaur, has dual typing (Grass/Poison) and the first route has Pidgey, which is Normal/Flying.
@@LightGreenCorona dual typing didn’t work in gen 1 - your weakness and strength were fully dependent on your first type, not both. Venosaur is not weak to psychic in gen 1
@@ducky8075 No, dual typing worked in gen 1. Moves still did super-effective or non-effective damage as they were intended to - it was just that the *battle messages* were incorrect.
Regardless of whether there's a type that would be worse, the most tragic combination will always be Rock/Ground. So many gen 1 Pokemon got hurt by having that typing.
If anybody's wondering, that's Geodude/Graveler/Golem, Onix, Rhyhorn/Rhydon. Gen 1 didn't have a pure Rock type, but had 3 pure ground types in Dugtrio, Marowak and Sandshrew
that explains why a gym leader loses to a 10 years old with a stupid squirtle
@@johnsingletary4864 charmeleon can use metal claw tho
@@hiccups6531 og red/blue/green charmander didnt have metal claw but onix by design has crap sp def so ember should kill it
@@hiccups6531 that move didn't exist in gen 1
The fact being Leavanny is a grass/bug hurts me so much. I love it soooo much
And since Lurantis has a similar vibe to it, I was super hyped when it was a pure grass type
Lurantis shouldn't be Bug type anyway. Just like Sudowoodo with Grass, Lurantis is supposed to only look like a Bug type.
@@gengarzilla1685 i mean i like she being just grass, but like... she is a MANTIS, a bug, it makes a lot of sense for her to be bug type.
Sudowoodo is just a rock that looks like a tree, a fossilized one yk, but lurantis is straight up a mantis, its in her name
@@kingue_ There are insects that pretend to be plants, Lurantis is a plant that pretends to be an insect
@@Richtofen-gy9cj oooh, cool, i really didn't knew that, pretty cool
@@kingue_ "didn't know that" while repeatedly talking about mantises which are exactly the types of bug that do this. Lurantis is based on the orchid mantis which hunts by pretending to be parts of an orchid.
I honestly thought ice and dark would see a spot on this list, it was fine before the introduction of fairy types, but that did what was already a bad defensive typing few favors
This is such a small thing but I love that when Wolfey's level up moves are shown, Mega Blast is learned at level 23.3 and Giga Impact at 200. That whole learnset is hilarious
He learns splash at 66 XD
Pls give the timestamp, i wanna see😂
I think i missed it
Mega blast also has 2000 base power before STAB, and never misses as well 😂
"Go Dunsparce! Use Dunsparce-blast!!!"
@@daphenomenalz4100 3:16
Ok, so now we need a series of "Can you reach #1 with the worst Pokemon types?"
Would love to see you push yourself to that kind of challenge, as difficult as it would be.
It'd be pretty interesting to see him using the Frosmoth set James Baek used a while back
Nuzlocke with only the worst types listed here
Maybe as a showcase of 1 or 2 Pokemon of those types. If you try building a team with no STAB coverage against Steel and multiple 4x weaknesses, you're gonna have a bad time
ooo thats good
@@aquartertwo you can adjust for that with abilities, stats, and non-STAB moves. the typing has to be bad, the stats, moves and abilities do not. hence why I would expect him to use Tyranitar on that team.
I love when he says at 3:39, "in my opinion, objectively"
I'm surprised fire/rock didn't make this list all things considered. A 4x to water and ground which are pretty strong types I would've thought would make it a bad type.
At least they are good offensively ig
Defensively it’s not the best, but it has amazing offensive coverage. It can hit every type for at least neutral damage and 6 (including Steel) for super effective damage
These animations go so hard, love it.
And yes- I'd love to see a "how a world champ would fix:" series. Whether it be types, individual Pokemon, metas, or even the entire game.
100% agree with that animations, it reminds me of Game Theory's animation style.
How to fix Regigigas:
Give it skill swap
@@temmssmdisnas Are you trying to give Gigas easy access to Huge Power?
@@Blossoming_Fate I would think running azumarill in doubles is a waste of a slot imo, i was thinking it could swap with an opponent's Mudsdale or an Ultra Beast if they were in the next main titles.
It's so upsetting that Frosmoth looks so good and is just so awful. I wanted this thing on my team as soon as I learned about it and made sure I got one, even knowing that Ice/Bug would be outmatched in some areas.
That beautiful moth never made it past the next gym. It couldn't switch in or withstand anything and it's a goddamn tragedy.
@@jesuslovesyouandisthewayto1114 uh what
@@orkaydk9430 I don't know. Help is appreciated in the Internet, but something about this person seems... off.
@@bbqsauce4796 should get buffed to half everything
Would still be balanced cuz its on frosmoth
@@radiantberserker8857It's a good thing that a Bug/Normal Type Pokemon doesn't exist because this type combo is absolute garbage and neither type can hit Steel and Ghost Types.
Plus It has to be worser than Bug/Ice in my Opinion.
If you think Kricketune is a Bug/Normal Type, then it's not plus Deelelelewoo is the worst pokemon ever.
Get a frosmoth with ice scales
Surprising to hear you call Ice an average offensive typing, I've always thought of it as the best offensive type in the game. Flying and Ground are the two most important types to cover, and before Fairy was introduced, it was much better to have an Ice attack than a Dragon attack for Dragon coverage.
Maybe hes taking the current meta into account. Ice still has the issue of not having a good physical attack, and nowadays Icebeam aren't x4 effective against Dragons anymore because they stopped making every Dragon type Dragon/Flying
thats why water types are so good. Almost all of them can just learn icetype moves but are 10x better defensively
@@johnsingletary4864 I'm talking more about competitive
Funny my drapion would either have ice fang or fire fang, upon losing to a skarmory, fire fang had the best coverage especially considering steel was immune to poison. Tho I definitely liked ice fang 50% of the time
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It should also be noted that Parasect's hidden ability also gives it the world's ONLY 8x weakness. Dry Skin turns that 4x weakness into a massive 8x weakness to fire.
Not quite, Dry Skin increases fire damage by 25%, so 4x becomes 5x.
@@WonkyTonkBotty sun boosted fire type moves are further boosted by 50%
So that'd be like 7.5x against the Paras family? (Also, I'm guessing the reason they got rid of the Bug weakness to poison was so that family wouldn't have three 4x weaknesses)@@lv1543
12:33
"In other words, this Paras really awful."
This was a god tier pun, and now I'm afraid that I've been missing them all episode
Haha i completely missed that
Glad I'm not the only one who saw this
It's even funnier if you speak finnish, because the word Paras literally means "best".
I always forget that Paras exist and think that Sewaddle‘s line is unique. Oh, Wormadam exists too, I guess.
I'll be honest, after forcibly trying to make Aurorus work just during a normal playthrough I expected Rock/Ice to be number one, when a Pokemon typing is too weak to even survive Pokemon X/Y you know it's bad.
I don't know why Gamefreak is so set on making rock and ice types so slow. Yes it makes sense thematically but then they should at least be given an ability that allows them to survive long enough to actually do something (Sturdy was a good step in this direction). Rock/Ice could be really good if it had high speed and offensive stats, instead they made it slow and gave it a bulky stat spread which is worthless when you're going to take 4x damage most of the time.
Imagine if Aurorus had special version of grassy glide that had priority during hail, that way Aurorus with snow warning would at least have a niche instead of being complete garbage. It's really frustrating as well as Aurorus has one of my favourite designs, I love looking at it, I just wish I could use it!
The only good thing about Aurorus is its design and cry. And it hurts me physically to say so.
Funny, I had a slightly different experience. I used Aurorus on my first playthrough of X because I love the design and the dinosaur it's based off of, but I was expecting it to struggle because of the typing. Surprising, not only did it never faint once in battle, it out performed some of my other team members like Goodra and Talonflame. Goes to show just how abysmally easy Pokemon X/Y were.
I used several different Aurorus in X and they all performed pretty good when using them on my playthroughs
I want to like it so much but its best stat is its HP iirc. Also Ice type gets screwed and needs an extra resistance or two. My uneducated guess for number one would be something like Grass/Ice.
3:16 Surprised to see that Wolfey can learn Big Punch, which is a super-rare move that confuses and paralyzes and infatuates and flinches the target if it hits. Mega Blast is great too, but it only hits if you have less current health than the target, which could be an issue given his high HP and defense stats.
I used a pokemon with focus sash and mega blast, nobody saw it coming. sadly ots has kind of ruined that strategy now
Considering Frosmoth was the only bug-ice type, said type combo was considered the worst, and you made videos of potential buffs for both bug and ice... I want to see a modded Pokemon game, featuring Frosmoth as the starter, with both ice and bug buffs active. I think a game making you use Frosmoth would be a fun way to see how impactful your proposed changes for the two types could be!
Pokemon: Snom version
Alright, hear me out: Bug should totally be super effective against Fairy!
Giving one of the worst types the advantage over one of the best is just about the greatest way they could balance the types! And I believe it would make logical sense too! I never got why they decided to make Fairy resist Bug in the first place, there's no good reason for it, neither realism nor balance! I think Bug should logically have the upper hand since I think it's comparable to Poison. Fairies suffer from Poison because it destroys nature. But an infestation could do that just as well! I also really like the idea of Bug dominating those magical and mental types like Dark and Psychic. It gives Bug a real identity! It would be such an obscure type without this power.
Bugs and poison aren’t always compared. Poison just doesn’t represent toxins from nature but the pollution and waste that is brought to it (ex:Muk, Weezing) which nature is poisoned by. While bugs can be dangerous to environments, majority of the time they are the prime residents and are just as crucial to being there. Fairies being residents of the area will live among the bugs so making them super effective wouldn’t fit as well either.
Also bugs aren’t affective over magical types. Psychic’s weaknesses are based off common phobias and dark supereffectiveness stems at most from bugs commonly being nocturnal and lurking in the dark.
Fairies in mythology are spirits of nature,a bug doing harm to a fairy makes 0 sence
Technically forestfires, blizzards, and storms could harm wildlife and forrests too, but fire, ice, and electric aren't strong against fairy
Bug should be super effective against fairy, fairy should do not very effective damage against ice, ice should also resist water and do neutral damage to steel. In addition, I'd say poison should do super effective damage against water and the move acid should function like thousand arrows but for poison on steel as opposed to ground on flying.
It should atleast be neutral tho otherwise its just stupid
Fun fact parasect is the only pokemon to ever have 3 4×weaknesses because in gen 1 poison was super effective on bug types.
anf only pokemon that is weak to a type more than four times due to dry skin
Rhydon also had three 4x weaknesses in Gen 1. Water, Grass and Electric if you aim for the horn.
Technically Paras too
@@iss2075 underrated comment
For a lot of the poor types, they'd still be solid if on a Pokemon that was fast and strong instead of slow and bulky, which is unfortunately the situation with most of these.
I love Tyranitar, his type combo seems me his intended flaw since everything else about him is amazing.
Had to weaken him somehow lol, that mega is amazing too
I really doubt it was intentional but it works out quite well
@@leaffinite3828 should've been Ground/Dark tbh because i like Tyranitar but its typing really holds me back
@@miyamotomusashi783 i mean thats kinda the point it has amazing stats, amazing ability, and i think it has a pretty diverse move pool. if they changed it type it be insanely strong wolfey even talked about it it his "dynamax is the best mechanic heres why" or the "if pokemon could change types" i forget which one
NO. It is this exact type combination what makes him great.
The rock type along with it's ability and Assault Vest make him an absolute wall against special attackers.
Also his dark type allows him to shut down the other 2 most used ever pokemons Starmie and Gengar. Along with many other pokemons, specially special attacking frail pokemon that use focus sash. Because you resist them like they were nothing and while the focus sash will make them live until the end of the turn, the sandstorm will finish it off making all of the possible impact that pokemon could ever have nule.
Also he can completely destroy things like Lunala or Shadow-Calyrex.
I’m not surprised that the majority of these type combinations are Ice Type since despite it being a great offensive typing, it also has zero resistances against all the other types expect against itself.
Not only that most Ice Pokémon are bulky and can't get the most of their typing.
That's why weavile is the best ice type
it should at least resist grass and water :/
@@MsMoonDragoon I thought it could've resisted things like flying ground or DRAGON! Why ice never resisted dragon even before fairy existed is just so stupid
Everyone wants Ice moves, but nobody wants STAB on them.
@@MsMoonDragoon no way, José. Grass is resisted by enough types already (flying, poison, fire, steel, dragon, bug). Grass needs buffs more than additional nerfs
As much as I love Frosmoth, I cannot tel you how many times I've been ohko'd while using it thanks to a physical move from rock or fire. Ice scales does help to make it a special tank to be reckoned with, but when it comes to physical, it's dead unless I can outspeed
Frosmoth's typing is so bad, it's literally the only combo in the game that can technically be OHKO'd by entry hazards. Steel Pieces + Stealth Rocks + 3x Spikes = 100% HP damage to Frosmoth and Snom.
@@stevenleonmusic yup, absolutely correct. Chances of actually seeing that? low, but still, it's wild. Still like the funny moth, but its typing is a very dangerous one
The typing is so bad that in order to make a half-decent CAPmon out of it, the CAP community literally had to give their mon an ability that acts as a Stealth-Rock specific HDB + an immunity to Rock moves on switch-in.
I’d really like to see you fix the Bug type, there’s a lot of cool bug types so it’d be nice to see how one of their typings could be made better
Honestly thought that the worst would be Ghost-Psychic. It's literally just ghost but worse. You add advantage to poison in exchange for losing the bug resistance and making the two other weaknesses of ghost x4.
The first thing to do for Bug is probably the obvious one: make it resist Fairy, and offensively Bug attacks should deal neutral or even Super-effective damage. There's no reason when Fairy was introduced to make Bugs even worse.
Love your pfp. I have that exact plushie.
I know. Kind of a slap to the face when Gen V made Bug-type Pokemon good for once, but then dragged them back down a Gen later.
No cry abt it
It’s only a tiny nerf thou. Doesn’t make a HUGE difference as many good bug Pokemon like Scizor, volcarona, scolipede and genecect resist fairy as well, and the poison and steel bugs which there are a good lot of are super-effective against fairy
@@Andrew-ch3xj wow you really brought a lot to the table here in this conversation. congrats.
“Types would rather be weak to bug than fairy.”
Dark: ...
*Bisharp:* 'Ello
Yeah like why does Bug deal super effective damage to Dark, yet Ice doesn't resist Grass?
Also always really thought that Bug should resist Poison
@@gurururuwarararara8164two words, bug spray
@@gratzbye8758 That's a grand total of four words, good Sir
You’re my favorite TH-camr right now, Wolfey! Not only do you provide so much interesting information about Pokémon, but you’re also super engaging and entertaining. Very well done!
Would definitely love to see a type balance series!
Def would love a Bug type fix video. Maybe even just a general “Wolfey’s type rebalancing opinions” video
Yep I'm really looking forward to that
I'd like to see that instead fixing the typing. Explore more ways to give those Pokemon more busted moves, abilities or mechanics. Will probably be more fun😆
One of the ways that I'd rebalance the Bug type is to add Radiation (or Radioactive) type that bug would be good against since insects are amazing at resisting radiation in real life. Radiation type would also nerf Fairy type as it would be weak against Radiation type. Unfortunately, Grass type would get nerfed even farther as it would be weak to Radiation type, & Steel type would be even better as it would resist Radiation type (thanks a lot, lead).
(Other type I'd add is Light, but that's unrelated to the bug type balancing.)
Yeah I'd love a bug type fix video
@@JadenTapscott what
Theory-essay videos are in fact my favorite video type of yours!
So the morale of this story is: Steel type was a meta mistake?
I find it very interesting that despite Bug-Flying having TWO four times resistances, it’s still an incredibly flawed type pairing
Ice/Rock also has the disadvantage of being up against two types with really strong prio-moves.
Bullet punch und mach punch both hit its 4x weakness. How are you gonna 0lay a sweeper if you're just being bullied by two really strong prio moves?
Infernape and Scizor screws them over.
@@Nosretep infernape
Cries in Hisuian Avalugg
A Infernape and a Scizor would completely one shot that typing with just one move.
@@Mysticgames136 Well isn't the point of one shotting to do it with one move
Yoo Wolfey, would definitely watch a vid on how to buff existing types (was actually thinking about this the other day). Would also love to hear your thoughts about adding a new type to balance the game, like when Fairy was added to reign in Dragon types. Love the channel, looking forward to some good wideos in the future!
Ooh or like changing just one resistance/weakness. EX: grass types no longer being resisted by steel
Or take a page from Suzerain and the Insurgence team and change how weather works. Add new one (like New Moon that’s buffs ghost and dark moves but needs fairy moves) or change how types interact with it. Such as a Pokémon that spends two consecutive turns in hail has a 5% chance to freeze
Make bug strong against fairy
Yes to both these ideas. Fix types! New types!
Dino type
@@nicolasde9949 No it doesn't make sense since fairies are shown to be close to nature including bugs
Definitely thought Fire/Rock and Ground/Rock would have made the list. Kind of suprised
That 4× weakness to water for both
Or that 4× weakness to ground for fire/rock hurts for sure
But both combos have a 2× vs steel offensive firepower
I think it would be a neat thought experiment to see how other factors could patch up the shortcomings of a bad type. Like if an existing ability, item, or a specific coverage move could make it work (and sticking to standard BSTs, you can make any pokemon viable if it has 250 in every stat)
About grass/bug types: good pun with “this paras really awful”
Came searching for this one. I knew something was up when I didn't see a Parasect picture, then he threw this out there.
I thought that’s what I heard there! A very clever pun.
I didn't expect this to get so introspective
World Champ Difference Baybee
This doesn't amount much to the key content of the video, but I love the little animations you had with the pokemon images in the corner, it added a lot of energy to the otherwise audio-only stuff. Nice touch!
Can someone tell me what song is at 9:30? It sounds very familiar but I can't put my finger on it
I think it’s the Ice Path/Dark Cave theme from gen 2
@@planted_bitch thanks!
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Ice path gen 2
Definitely interested in how a Bug type can be made stronger. Ice too. I've always thought the series has done those types dirty (didn't even consider Bugs usable at all until like Gen 5 with Galvantula and Volcarona).
Easy, Have it be able to learn an unreasonably powerful move or an overpowered ability
make bug strong against fairy
All ice needs to be better is more resistances since it's already a good offensive type. The most logical to me would be resistances to Bug and Grass, but those types have a lot of resistances so don't need anymore.
I think that Ice should resist Flying and probably something like Psychic or Dark.
One of the big problems I see with Bug is the amount of types that resist it. First thing, I'd do is get rid of the Fairy resistance to Bug. I don't know why GF did that. I'd even give Bug Super Effective attacks to Fairy. Also why does Ghost and Fighting resist Bug? I'd get rid of that. I think that's a good start. Getting rid of 3 resistances and giving it another Super Effective attack, but I'd be interested to hear what Wolfey has to say.
@@gojira4036 That's the route all of the good (at least usable) bugs take anyway, usually because they have good stats or another typing that helps them.
Volc has Quiver Dance and the fire typing helps it, Scizor has only one weakness and strong STAB priority, Araquanid has an ability that would be broken if it was a good mon on its own. Heracross is strong and fast enough to be a viable moxie scarfer or guts wallbreaker.
Mono-bug is still terrible unless they rework the type chart. Fairy should be weak to it. Kills 2 Pidgeys with one Stone Edge since buffing bug and nerfing fairy are both welcome changes to me.
There are good bug type abilities alone like U-Turn and Tail Glow but the actual pokemon don't have a good reputation and it's kinda saddening. Eiscue was the first Ice type I genuinely loved because his ability was so abusable and could keep him in for so long if you favored that defense.
Crazy how Steel/Bug is one of the best typings, even though Bug has always been bad and was technically nerfed with Fairies.
Your opinion on how to fix it would be nice.
I think Bugs being immune to Grass type status moves like spore and leech seed would be nice.
Also an offensive buff is needed. Why does Fairy resist bug???
Defensively I think Bug is actually "good".
The Leech seed should heal bugs, a real bug would eat them
But steel is super effective against fairy. 😄
my guess as to why fairy resist bug: U-Turn - which i find weird to be a bug move to begin with.
@@TirelessGaming That makes sense though? Faeries are deathly allergic to iron.
Bug isn’t a bad type defensively so it doesn’t drag down types too much and sometimes compliments them well. It only had 3 weaknesses. Unless none of the weaknesses are covered by the other type.
I love bug type because I'm a casual player and a sucker for cute pokemon (which bug type has heaps of) so now I'm gonna scroll through for your improving bug type video
Content and editing for this were top tier. Keep it up!
Defence should carry more weight than offence when it comes to grading typing.
You can use other types' moves as coverage, but you can't change your own type.
You can't change your own type
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@@cosmicquazar88 yes yes,
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Na having useful STAB with few resistances is extremely important for dictating the tempo of a battle
1:19 The editing on this and the entire video is absolutely fantastic
Dark-Ghost was renowned (in Gen 4) for being a combo with no ways to supereffectively hit it ... now Dark-Psychic is here for being a combo with no ways to resist anything xD
That was one thing I didn't really agree with. An immunity >>> a resistance. You can literally switch Malamar in on a Psychic attack and go to town, especially if your opponent put webs up. Of course Malamar is crappy stats and will just fall to a Fairy move or a well-placed U-Turn but saying it has no resistances is not accurate.
@@stevenleonmusic But then this tells that malamar has a good ability that takes the advantage of its movepool having superpower, neither of which are taken in consideration when ranking the typings.
@@stevenleonmusic I agree in that it can switch in on a Psychic type move, however, any coverage move from a decently strong Pokémon can 2-shot most variants of Malamar. No decent trainer will choice-lock themselves on a Psychic type move when you know your opponent has a Dark type on their team, and also, they won't let Malamar rack up multiple Contrary-Superpowers for the extra defense to allow it to survive for long enough. Just my thoughts.
@@faaagamer Who are you talking to? I never mentioned Superpower. Even disregarding webs, the point is that Psychic + Dark has 1 Immunity so it can switch in on Psychic attacks and retaliate with a Dark attack OR a STAB Psychic attack on a predicted Fighting switch-in. It's not a terrible STAB combo, only struggling against fellow dark types and being neutral to all 17 other types. Currently only 72 pokemon resist Psychic + Dark so it could be a lot worse. All but 4 Bug + Anything combos are worse.
@@stevenleonmusic I am trying to say that all of that you were talking about in the first comment solely depends upon the stat of the pokemon and its movepool as well, which is not taken into consideration. To say, dark/ghost is a really good typing and to say that it can switch in to normal/psychic attacks and then sweep is not an accurate things to say as certainly sableye is not a pokemon for that.
I think aurorus is slightly saved by the fact that it can learn electric type moves, but this is biased by the fact that I did a solo greninja run in that gen
"In my opinion, the worst type objectively is the bug type"
Normal/Dark probably should have made the list. The only thing normal does is give it a 4x weakness to fighting in exchange for immunity to ghost (something it already resisted anyway)
Totem Raticate vs. my Torracat. Who will win?!
P.S. My Torracat knows Double Kick...
Nah, it’s not a bad combo IMO. 4 x weakness is bad but two immunities always speaks out. Plus obstagoon is proof that the typing works
@@ssm1559 Obstagoon is to me just another Tyranitar kind of deal where it has its own, different reasons why it can be good. And even then, Obstagoon's not exactly *that* good now that the Gen 8 metagame's more diverse and more adapted to it.
Imagine how much less useful that Normal typing would be without banking on how disgustingly hard Guts Facade can hit, for instance.
All the other inbuilt immunity types besides Dark and Normal (Fairy, Ground, Flying, Steel, Ghost) also tend to come with a bunch of *other* reasons why they're good. (Not saying that Dark isn't good too, it's just that Normal typically does kind of drag it down and typically wouldn't offer that much of great use when it would already resist Ghost anyway)
And we can already also see that there are a bunch of Ghost mons that aren't that good even though that type gives you two immunities by itself, and only gives you two weaknesses. Jellicent for instance has declined dramatically, even though it has six resists, and Water Absorb can give it three immunities.
Weak to x4Fighting, Fairy, Bug. Resists Dark. Yeah, that’s a really sad typing.
Obstagoon hard-walls both Ghost and Psychic.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Ice and water should be mutually resistant. Several Ice types are literally cold enough to freeze the moisture in the air at will.
to be fair most water types can do this too
@@TheDarkblue57 can they? I don’t recall
While not necessarily the *worst* combinations out there, here is a sample of some type combinations that have the *most quadruple weakness.* Again, I'm looking solely at the defensive prowess (offense not accounted for.)
*1. Steel/Rock* is arguably *the best* combination with two 4X weaknesses just by virtue of being part steel; 8 resistances, 3 neutralized weakness, one immunity and 3 weaknesses (two 4X.) *2. Fire/Rock* boasts 7 resistances, 2 neutralized weaknesses and 4 weaknesses (two of which are 4X) *3. Rock/Ground* 5 resistances and one immunity is lovely, but look at all those weaknesses *(6* in total, with 2 being 4X.) The games *love* building up the rock type as nigh-invulnerable even though mono rock is weak to a whopping *5* types. *4. Rock/Ice* (mentioned in video.) *5. Grass/Bug* (mentioned in video.) *Fun fact,* in Gen I, poison was strong against bug meaning at that time, Parasect had a grand total of *3* quadruple weaknesses!
Rock was pretty good in Gen 1 because strong special moves weren't common, most Pokemon had an array of weak Normal-type moves
@@bluegum6438 Oh, I definitely agree there. As much as I loved Gen I, the movepools were one of its limitations (all the normal-type level up moves and the short movepools.) Lance's Red & Blue team consists almost exclusively of normal attacks; his *only* type coverage move being Gyarados' Hydro Pump. I don't think many NPCs used TMs or HMs in those days, so the player character was at a *huge* advantage while NPCs are struggling with normal and (mostly weak) STAB moves. Not to mention all the Pokémon that barely learned *any* STAB outside of TMs (Sandslash in particular comes to mind.) The player’s Golem is in *no danger* of taking a surprise Ice Beam or Surf from Giovanni’s Nidoqueen and Nidoking since the best they can do, base power wise, is *Body Slam!* I checked on Bulbapedia and both his Nidos run *nothing* but normal moves (with the exception of Poison Sting, which suffers from an absolutely *abysmal* base power of 15.)
I would love to see a video on fixing every bad type (as well as every broken type) or even any changes to the type chart that you think we should see!
One type I feel gets a (dis)honorable mention would be Ice/Psychic, excluding the existing pokemon the typing is attached to (which is already a massive buff), it's got 6 weaknesses, the only 2 resistances being Ice and Psychic, and not a ton of redeeming qualities unless the offensive combo is insane.
Yeah, its only good pokemon is calyrex
Calyrex is only good because its stats are juiced up
Shut up about its base 50 speed
@@iluvchess14736 hey it can be a good asset in trick room, so not too detrimental of a low stat
@@valval4145 Yeah, it would be worse if it was ~base 75 speed so it was still slow but not slow enough to justify on most dedicated TR teams.
@@valval4145 Yeah, my language was a bit unclear but I was actually saying that its low speed actually makes it good.
Ironically, Jynx was really good in Gen 1 because of this typ combination.
I like the idea of "fixing" the worst types, it's something I've always tought about
Sun: does a ton of stuff
Rain: does a ton of stuff
Sand: does quite a lot of stuff
Hail: uhhhhh blizzard doesn't miss?
@@WaterZer0 i love the idea of buffing the defence of ice pokemon when hail is active, its like the ice is getting more hard and solid.
My all-time favourite Pokémon is Tyranitar, but honestly, Im so used to usually liking Pokémon with lower base stat totals and using them in playthroughs that with a pseudo-legend like that, I like to think that he typing just balances it out to fit with the other Pokémon I like.
I loved the Wolfey Pokemon details. Run Away as an ability, “Yell”, etc. Kudos to the editor
I love how Scizor kinda fixed the bug problem by trading all of it's two time weaknesses for neutral damage and a 4x times weakness to fire.
I love combination of Bug Steel.
Yeah, it's such an elegant typing. It was my favorite typing before Mawile got its fairy type.
Scizor is op, that's why i always keep one on my team
Steel 🤝 being the best type
Kinda surprised Ground/Rock didn't make the list, since it's basically a nerf over pure Rock or pure Ground. You gain a few decent resistances (and an immunity, compared to pure Rock), but it comes with a quad-weakness to *_two_* very common & powerful attacking types. On top of that... while their offensive coverage is very good, it's pretty common for Ground types to have access to Rock type moves and vice versa, so all you're really getting out of it is having that extra coverage benefit from STAB... though that may be violating the parameters of this assessment, I suppose.
I was expecting Rock/Ground to be on this list and was very surprised when it wasn't.
I feel Bug type just needs a natural status immunity to be good.
Like how Electric is immune to Paralyze and Grass is immune to "Spore" moves.
In real life, insects are unable to see faces, so Bug could be logically be given immunity to "Look" moves like Leer, Glare, Mean Look, or Fake Tears.
Infestation
Bees can see and remember human faces it was scientifically proven
LMAO not you just blatantly making shit up 😭
Confusion, bugs can’t get dizzy
Immunity to confusion, flinching and sleep
I think it's fine to have a really weak typing, but give it something that will make it standout. Such as make u turn bug exclusive, add better moves/abilities.
having u-turn be bug exclusive wouldn't make bug types more viable, it would only nerf the meta as a whole. taking it away from many strong mons would make slowbro and volt switchers absolute gods on the field and would make THEM be used instead of bug types. they're not rarely used because of not being unique, but rather being generally weak and have a lot of weaknesses. don't get me wrong, there are some exceptions. for example, buzzwole and genesect are usually able to fit themselves up on the top of meta, but that doesn't mean they're strong because they're bug type, rather because they have good kits to pick from and better stats to stand up to it.
^ possibly too long but i wanted to really back up my opinion
@@tz1613 that's a fair criticism, but my point was to make them strong in a different way instead of changing type matchups. And yes it would nerf the meta. Volt/flip aren't as reliable and an increase in bugs should threaten the bros
And u turn was just a move I thought of because non bugs abuse it. Make an attack buff version of quiver or good 120 power move instead.
Bug just need to resist fairy and that would be a huge buff
Fun fact: back in time poison used to be super effective agains't bug wich means that bug grass were the only typing that reached 3 4x weaknesses.
Always watch your videos during my lunch break! Thanks for the content
I would absolutely love a "how to fix the bug type" video. I also think that you could take it up a notch. I personally would love to watch a video where you "patch" Pokemon (including moves, items, Pokemon, abilities, types, ext.) where you would attempt to "fix" as many problems with the games as possible. I think it would be super cool to see how you would change the game, and honestly, I think you would be really exited to nerf Incineroar and Xerneas >:)
Also if anyone reading this hasn't subcribbled yet you definitely should. Great content!
Omg a video on new item or ability concepts or reworks would be siiiiick
YESSSSS!!! bug type Is not just the worst type on the franchise Is the worst BY FAR. Its sad because the thematic Is classive and cool.
you probably couldve put a heavier emphasis on weakness to rock, because of stealth rock. bug flying shouldve been a lot higher because 50% every time you switch in without boots is really tough.
GF needs to include MANY more variants of stealth rock, or remove it from the game entirely. Spikes is enough in theory.
Stealth Icicles for instance would have been a counter to dragons without even needing to invent the Fairy type, while also having to take the risk and put Ice Pokemon on the field.
Absolutely agree, however stealth rocks not very prevalent in vgc, which is what Wolfey plays in, so that’s probably why it’s not accounted for
Or nerf Stealth Rock to have fighters with 4x Rock weaknesses take only 33% rather than 50%.
(11:27) I am surprised Parasect did not make an appearance.
a video creating a good pokemon/set using these types would be pretty interesting imo
i would love to see the bug type video, i feel like it never should have been resisted by fairy personally, so my idea was to change it from a resistance to a super effective matchup. not a large change, and it doesnt help agaisnt steel, but still a change for the better that isnt too drastic throughout the entire board
I think it would actually be a huge change because of the popularity of U-turn. All the Grass/Psychic/Dark Fairies would just become unviable completely and U-turn would generate so much more momentum going from 50% damage to 200% on fairies.
I just want to voice my appreciation for the editing of this video! The presentation of the information, the pokémon sort of hanging out as you talk about each type combination, even the individual typings in the weakness/resistance charts lighting up all made for a very nice video to watch beyond just the interesting info in it.
Would absolutely love to see you talk about how to improve the bug type, a lot of my favorite pokémon are bug types but its admittedly baaad
Flying is pretty much the bane of Bug typing. Not just because it's effective against Bug types, but because it also pretty much sends a written letter to two of Bug's few favorable defensive matchups (Ground and Fighting) demanding that they run Rock type moves to counter it... which Bug types are also weak to. So combining the two is a really, really bad idea... unfortunate as that is for Ninjask and Yanmega.
I very much like these broader analysis/theory videos, it's very very helpful as someone who's trying to get back into pokemon. Pokemon has a lot going on and this gets my brain thinking on a broader scale.
The ice type should gain resistances to the types it’s strong against. That would instantly make it a much better type.
Or, remove water resisting ice
Edit: ice shouldn’t resist grass though, grass doesn’t need a nerf like that and it means water/ice types stay weak to grass
I think offensively Grass would need a few resistances to become neutral as a better buff, starting with Bug and Dragon becoming neutral.
Huh. I was honestly expecting rock/fire here with its 2 4x weaknesses to water and ground. Not to mention it's weak to fighting and rock. Though I suppose offensively it's much better, covering steel, grass (2 problems for the rock half), flying, bug, and ice. Plus, a fairy resist is always helpful. Huh. Maybe we do spit too much on that type combination.
Not to mention that combo also resists all of Grass’ weakness.
Great vid as usual bud! I'd love to see a video where you try to buff bad types, i honesty thought Craboninable would have made it on this list, that ooor thing has 8 weaknesses :(
I'm glad to know what types are useful in a playthrough, and how effective my favorite Pokémon would be in a battle.
I'd love to see bug type resisting and hitting super effective to fairy types. It would boost them pretty hard, while nerfing fairy type
I'd love to see a series on individual types on how you would balance them.
I'd love to see that video on "how to fix bug type"
Also while we're at it, why not make a "how to balance steel/fairy type"?
I'm surprised Rock+Steel did not make this list. 4x weaknesses to Ground and Fighting, both formidable and common types. It's such a detriment Mega Aggron benefits through removing its Rock type.
As someone who loves bug and bad types in general, I would heavily appreciate a video on how to buff the bug type and other bad types too. It’s a real shame that the only changes to types and weaknesses have been to types that were already fairly strong while bad types have been left in the dust. It’s a little insulting that steel was nerfed by losing resistances to ghost and dark but then was compensated by being able to hit fairy types, as bug and ice types haven’t received any changes. Hopefully gamefreak does something to buff those types eventually.
I’m a bug specialist and love the bug type! Galvantula, Durant/ scizor, araquanid/golisopod are just a few of my favorites with a decent additional typing to make the bug type better by having better type coverage and weakness counters
I'm a steel type specialist glad to see a fan of a certain type
As a ice type specialist, I am also glad to see fans of a certain type
@@skeletonjanitor haha I'm ur weakness but I respect ice types
another bug specialist i see, golisopod and scizor are presents to us, they are amazing and they hit harf
@@bside4131 I love going the entry hazard route with galvantula using sticky web, scolipede with spikes and possibly toxic spikes and crustle with stealth rocks. Then set up with other heavy hitters like centiskorch/volcarona, araquanid, etc. I especially love the spider and centipede pokemon the most
I’ve been thinking about how Bug type could be better for a while; I don’t think too much should be changed type chart wise, but since it already deals super effective damage to Dark types, I say also give it a resistance to Dark.
Possibly make it so that it hits Fairy for neutral damage rather than not very effective, which would also give Fairy the tiniest nerf.
I think it could also be given a property similar to how Grass type’s immunity to powder and spore moves. Bug is kind of a niche type already so it would be cool if it had a new niche like that… maybe a weather based boost like how sandstorm boosts Rock type Pokémon’s Special Defense by 50%… maybe introduce a new terrain move that affects Bug types only?
Maybe even make Bug types immune to being Confused
You know what could make an Ice/Rock mon OP?
Enough speed and power to OHKO Rock, Ground, and Fire pokemon before they can touch it. Maybe a custom ice move that x2s Fire instead of dealing half damage to it.
So a signature Freeze Dry-like move and a Water or Grass move?
While that would make the Pokémon good, as it’s an Ice type and has a signature move the Pokémon will not have the stats to take advantage of it. It will be another Frosmoth again. The Pokémon that are shown to have unique moves and abilities will also be the most useless. Interestingly enough, Frosmoth was one of those advertised Pokémon.
Mega Aurorus with a speed buff should be a force to be reckoned with.
It's not about strong or weak typing Wolfey.
It's about the Mets, Go Mets, get a homerun, Love the Mets.
I love the editing on these!
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“In other words, this “Paras” really awful.”
See what you did there with a gen 1 Grass/Bug type. You got me chuckling with that one
You could have mentioned the gen 1 bug/grass evolutionline Paras/Parasect it had 3 x 4-times weaknesses back than fire, flying AND POISON, because poison was super effective against bug in gen 1 :D
This is the one with the most 4-times weaknesses a Pokemon ever had!
I'd love to see a "how to make the strongest potential type combo team if you couldn't repeat any types at all".
Like if you used a mawile you can't use any other fairy or steel types.
Electric/Fighting
Water/Dragon
Poison/Dark
Flying/Ground
Normal/Ghost
Steel/Fairy
@@EnriqueLaberintico but there’s no electric/fighting type
@@axeltheking4157 Fire/Psychic then.
(leak)
And Pawmi's final evo will satisfy our wish when SV comes out.
@@EnriqueLaberintico do you have a lot of fun spoiling the game for others?
@@axeltheking4157 I hid it, guess I had to clarify that I wanted to hide a spoiler.
I'd be interested in a video about how to fix the bug type issue! I've been thinking about this for a while and I thought that making it both hit fairy for super effective and resist it would make it a much better typing, while also nerfing fairy. Not sure though, may be unbalanced? And there are so many bug types in game, fairy would suffer a lot from that...
Gen 9 should definitely change something about the ice, bug, fairy and steel matchups though, I hate not being able to use some Pokemon well enough just because their typing is bad, Pokemon is always more fun to me when I get a lot of flexibility in team building
I like that they buffed ice now, ice used to be teeerrible but now it's alright. I wish they'd give bug the same treatment one of these days, like a strong status condition or terrain effect exclusive to bugs. Yes I know stick web exists, no it's not good enough on its own to save the type
Great vid Wolfey. Personally for me, anything that has a (x4) weakness to multiple typings deserves to be on the top of the list for the worst typing pair. Regardless of how a duel type can be (x2) effective towards other types or if it can resist multiple typings, being (x4) weak to not only one but 2 types can be devastating when trying to battle. Great content keep it up :D