I think this illustrates well the differences in their approaches. Personally, I think Rosenwinkel is a great guitarist but I'm more into Scofield's solos. What Scofield has is something that the older great bop players had - like Sonny Rollins or a Joe Henderson - which is the ability to really dig in rhythmically, to leave some space and create a real interaction with the rest of the group that builds in intensity and tells a story - its like going on a journey. Kurt has these long beautiful lines but I've never gotten enough sense of contrast in his solos. Bill Stewart is a great drummer.
Everything you said. Everything. And I mean, both guitarists [literally ALL guitarists] rely on patterns they've learned or created and practiced and internalized and absorbed into their muscles - playing them as they are, chopping them up into fragments and rearranging them and so forth. These two are no exception. Somehow, Scos patterns and phrasing always sound more musical and definitely more soulful to me. A lot of it has to do with his tendency to play behind the beat. But he also isn't afraid to play phrases or choose tones that are not "jazz." He'll throw in a very bluesy bend or some chunky funk or mimic a pedal steel, he'll grind the string right at the bridge to make it almost cough, and he'll play a sweet line and then slide up a fret and play it again like a college kid learning to play "out." And it's always musical. When asked in an interview in the 80s how he felt about certain other kinds of music he said, "I think when you go around comparing music you lose the beauty of listening to any of it." It's a beautiful philosophy that really comes through in the music he creates. And I've tried to live my musical life following that rule. But, oh hell yeah, Imma compare Sco to another absolute genius like KW. Imma do that all day long.
You can really hear Kurt pushing especially hard on this recording... combination of being ridiculously locked in with Ben Street, his long-time bassist, and being on the same stage as Sco! This recording is not only the meeting of two great guitarists, but two great bands- you can hear the differences in their respective solos
They both are amazing for sure--Sco can start slow and exploratory and feel his way into things and then find the craziest OUTSIDE ways of working himself back...it's just facet of what I like about his style. Kurt is just as phenomenal with amazingly fresh ideas.
Both masters! Lucky enough to have taken lessons with Sco and Master Classes with Kurt. Now if I can only channel half of what these guys are doing here!
I think I know what’s the deal here. Sco got the soul. Kurt got the bop right. Really nice contrast between the 2 giants of jazz guitar. As said, very few can match scofield stature. Kurt does so very well. Sco looked really worried at times. Which I never saw him.
This is ridiculous, non-wanking, old-man strength powwaahh!! As great as Kurt Rosenwinkel is, where do you go after that? I mean, I realize it's probably the slur-master's trio, but still
I am thankful that it was videotaped and that we have it to watch! Things aren’t always perfect but the music still comes out and that’s the most important thing. For that I am grateful that someone posted this! Thanks for posting!
+passerell it's his thing. It's not about rhythmic prowess, but much more about intense and complex melodic solutions and phrasing flow. You may like it or not, it's his thing.
+jazztom86 I love kurts playing on this. I feel that way about Bill Evans (piano). 2 solutions: if you play than don't play like him. If you listen dont listen to him. Kurt is outta sight 4 me. Rhythmically I love his approach to each their own.
I might say that about Kurt's solos if I could instantly reproduce anything he plays. Kurt is a scientist. Hell, he was still a kid when he got the gig with Gary Burton! I guess those boring lines are the reason people lined up around the block to hear him at his regular gig at smalls haha... I have nothing but respect for his music.
Both kurt and John are legends…. But let’s also talk about how bill stewart is killing !
Bill Stewart is always killing!
sure man and it seem so easy to swing hard for him i love his drive..so powerfull
john scofield is one of the best musician in the world.
So is Kurt Rosenwinkel!
@Polako Polakovic No Not really?? You OBVIOUSLY don't know WTF you're talking about. YOU just don't understand or get what Kurt is playing!!!
@Polako Polakovic That is YOUR opinion, and YOU DON'T KNOW WTF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. We're done.
John Scofield is amazing...
John just SLAYS on this...
Kurt has a sick flow of ideas on this one
Kurt is amazing!!
That's the thing about sco, he loves talking with the band and swings so hard!
dankgeetar o
So great to see these two greats of their generations together sharing and creating great music. They are both great inspirations to us guitarists!
Three cheers for John Scofield!!!!
Rosenwinkel @ 2:03-2:10, and 2:56-3:00. That,s how you play on the V chord of the blues. Kurt seems to take A LOT more risks.Unreal stuff.
Massive! Rosenwinkel is one of the few guitarists around that can share a stage with Scofield ... both just amazing
Not only share the stage with him, but actually out improvise him! Not easy to do!!! Kurt is incredible.
@@vbassone not how I hear it..
@@johncruz9357 Well, listen again......
@@vbassone no need to Sco is so much more expressive & dynamic.
@@johncruz9357 I love Sco, but you are COMPLETELY missing the genius of Kurt.
I think this illustrates well the differences in their approaches. Personally, I think Rosenwinkel is a great guitarist but I'm more into Scofield's solos. What Scofield has is something that the older great bop players had - like Sonny Rollins or a Joe Henderson - which is the ability to really dig in rhythmically, to leave some space and create a real interaction with the rest of the group that builds in intensity and tells a story - its like going on a journey. Kurt has these long beautiful lines but I've never gotten enough sense of contrast in his solos. Bill Stewart is a great drummer.
Everything you said. Everything.
And I mean, both guitarists [literally ALL guitarists] rely on patterns they've learned or created and practiced and internalized and absorbed into their muscles - playing them as they are, chopping them up into fragments and rearranging them and so forth. These two are no exception. Somehow, Scos patterns and phrasing always sound more musical and definitely more soulful to me. A lot of it has to do with his tendency to play behind the beat. But he also isn't afraid to play phrases or choose tones that are not "jazz." He'll throw in a very bluesy bend or some chunky funk or mimic a pedal steel, he'll grind the string right at the bridge to make it almost cough, and he'll play a sweet line and then slide up a fret and play it again like a college kid learning to play "out." And it's always musical.
When asked in an interview in the 80s how he felt about certain other kinds of music he said, "I think when you go around comparing music you lose the beauty of listening to any of it." It's a beautiful philosophy that really comes through in the music he creates. And I've tried to live my musical life following that rule.
But, oh hell yeah, Imma compare Sco to another absolute genius like KW. Imma do that all day long.
You can really hear Kurt pushing especially hard on this recording... combination of being ridiculously locked in with Ben Street, his long-time bassist, and being on the same stage as Sco! This recording is not only the meeting of two great guitarists, but two great bands- you can hear the differences in their respective solos
This is fantastic! I don’t know they ever played together. Thanks for posting!
I think Kurt is one of the really kicking jazz players ,he’s just got a never ending change of style
They both are amazing for sure--Sco can start slow and exploratory and feel his way into things and then find the craziest OUTSIDE ways of working himself back...it's just facet of what I like about his style. Kurt is just as phenomenal with amazingly fresh ideas.
Ben Street is walkin like Haden here. Awesome
Bill and Larry whooo
Both masters! Lucky enough to have taken lessons with Sco and Master Classes with Kurt. Now if I can only channel half of what these guys are doing here!
Bass player is kickin butt
Then in walks Sco……👌🏾
impresssssssssssssssssssionante.
So good!!!!
さすが！この二人は凄すぎる。
Chivi^: Title Track: "Past Present" -- just released Oct. 2015.
totally awsome!
10:00 Kurt's like "whoah
Dang, that was intense. I dig it.
kurt is great. fresh sound actuality
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new guitar sheriff in town and his name is Kurt Rosenwinkel........
Is that a guitar or weapon in Scofield's hands?
Jody Hughes hah great
I think I know what’s the deal here. Sco got the soul. Kurt got the bop right. Really nice contrast between the 2 giants of jazz guitar. As said, very few can match scofield stature. Kurt does so very well. Sco looked really worried at times. Which I never saw him.
the shit woah :)
tshicng tsching sola whoooba wooooba schahtala sootooo
Γειά σου Ιάσονα! :-)
anybody know if this tune has another name?
Anyone knows in which album I can find this tune?
This is ridiculous, non-wanking, old-man strength powwaahh!! As great as Kurt Rosenwinkel is, where do you go after that? I mean, I realize it's probably the slur-master's trio, but still
Bill Stewart destroyed everyone at the end
Bill is just NASTY.
I am sure this was great. Too bad about the horrible sound quality.
I am thankful that it was videotaped and that we have it to watch! Things aren’t always perfect but the music still comes out and that’s the most important thing. For that I am grateful that someone posted this! Thanks for posting!
it is like children with chocolates
Sco is fucking sick! Not that rosenwinkel isn't.
Sco is showing off for no reason.
I like Kurt but I find him rhythmically very boring. Does he realize he always plays long eight note phrases?
+passerell it's his thing. It's not about rhythmic prowess, but much more about intense and complex melodic solutions and phrasing flow. You may like it or not, it's his thing.
+jazztom86 I love kurts playing on this. I feel that way about Bill Evans (piano). 2 solutions: if you play than don't play like him. If you listen dont listen to him. Kurt is outta sight 4 me. Rhythmically I love his approach to each their own.
At least he hits the right notes :)
I might say that about Kurt's solos if I could instantly reproduce anything he plays. Kurt is a scientist. Hell, he was still a kid when he got the gig with Gary Burton! I guess those boring lines are the reason people lined up around the block to hear him at his regular gig at smalls haha... I have nothing but respect for his music.