Last week, the internet went wild over a certain Mantou Honey's owners! Rumour has it...they're 21 and 32!! How much of an age gap would you accept? Are there any other dealbreakers besides age? Let us know in the comments below 💖
To be honest, maturity level is what we should be considering instead of age. Age is just a number. Never in my life have I ever expect myself to fall in love with someone who is older than me (2 decades). I have dated people who are the same age as me or slightly older. But those didn’t end well.. because the dealbreaker for me was how they treat me as a person. My current partner treats me with lots of patience and care... which is something that I never expect myself to need it... And I fall in love with their character and soul... though I wish the height difference can be more, but it didn’t bother me as much as I thought it would... because I genuinely love this person...
Sat through the whole 37mins of it. Enjoying all the tea, and all the past grievances of the both sisters. Spread positivity in the comments, make the internet a better/human place.
Why are people so concerned about age gap and income gap? How about mentality gap, emotional intelligence gap, interest gap etc? All these things are happening too and it reveals more troubling issues tbh. That said, there is no right or wrong in relationships and outsiders shouldn’t have the right to interpret the relationship from an outsider point of view. It’s always about compromise and how the couple choose to work out their differences etc. Afterall, no relationship is without challenge. Cheers!
You said it better than we did! Yes things like mentality, emotional intelligence and interests are so much more crucial in ensuring a lasting relationship! 💪🏼
Sylvia Chan is not about the age gap!!!!!but the girls age , i didnt see any problem whith the age gap . But gurlll , she still to green and mentaly + emotionaly unstable well u can say not mature enough . Intelegent ofc she is smart didnt waste his time date some poor guy
In my honest opinion , I don't find anything wrong with Ryan dating Cutesie BUT I totally understand why the internet is freaking out and going haywire over this topic . But then again , let's use Ninas' points in this video for easy referencing . Nina said she wouldn't date a 32 years old if she was 21 because of the difference in their life (at that point of time) . I think Ryan and Cutesie wouldn't really last long base on that point . Why ? Ryan is someone who rose to the top with NOTHING under his belt , just Sylvia by his side , you guys probably heard their stories . They literally went through hell to achieve what they have today . Someone who literally went through hell , got married at such a young age , probably has seen alot in life , experience so many different situations that non of us would . And for Cutesie , she is most probably "famous" in social media when she was in school . I assumed she had a few advertising deal and she rose into "popularity" before her 20's . She's 21 now and I assume she is still studying (?) and doesn't really know what "real" life is about yet . There's alot of things she has to go through or learn in order to fully understand Ryan , they are most probably happy now . But of course , Love works in a really mysterious way , they might just make this whole thing work out . I hope they do work out , IF they are together in the first place . All the best !
That cat looks like he's having the time of his life! !This should be a one-time thing though. . th-cam.com/video/7SlUw2R_QpY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AnimalsGlobal
I dont find anything wrong with the age gap.BUT Basicaly she just want the money , nothing is wrong cos who want to date a poor guy???? My advice dont find gf from the same industry . Either this 2 if she not after the money then she want the fame or maybe both
Yup, probably Ryan may need someone that been through more things in life to understand him. Cute C I feel has only just starting to see the world compared to Ryan, who have gone through a marriage ,failures and hardship in life.
I used to agree to height issue. It was one of the dealbreakers for me. But me, being a long 175cm girl living in this tiny ass red dot, its not easy to find a '' tall man" who can tick all my 'boxes' in a relationship. I've grown and learnt overtime that what I really want most, is who the guy is on the inside, how he treat his family, friends etc. Cliché as it is. Oh, forgot to mention, Im dating a guy that's 10cm SHORTER than me. And Im happier. Love this ep btw
I am too 175cm tall 🥺 I’m also trying to overcome the height issues but it’s so hard and yes it’s hella hard for me to find tall guys where I’m from as well sigh
Samantha Ashleyy I understand how you feel about it too, Samantha. Somehow, no matter how tall my date is or good looking, I wasn’t happy as much as how I am now. I still struggle when strangers gave us weird stare. Like it’s a sin to be tall & to date shorter guys. And my partner used to struggle with that as well, much more than I do sometimes. In time, it just became such a norm to get stared at. Kinda felt unique:). Because, it’s the Heart that Matters :)
So cute!! I totally relate to you! I'm dating a guy that's 5cm shorter than me, and my height is 169cm. We both gradually embraced the height difference and we will joke about who's taller and shorter too hehe 😂 Yup feeling unique as a couple ✨
As someone who is below 21, I think age gap plays quite a part during this period of life but I feel like as we get older we tend to not really look at it. Putting physical criterias aside personally I feel like the mental side of us is the ultimate deal breaker. Is hard for me to imagine a relationship where both parties still have to act like another version of themselves rather than just let go all of their alternate version and be themself. Overall I think the mental side could be overlooked when people are searching for relationship.
My parents age gap is 10 years. I don't see there is any problem with Ryan and his girl big age gap. Netizens nowadays are ridiculous. Let Ryan ro be who he want or do whatever he wants. Mind your own business.
That cat looks like he's having the time of his life! !This should be a one-time thing though. . th-cam.com/video/7SlUw2R_QpY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AnimalsGlobal
Wholeheartedly agree when Nina said that it hurts to read when you know them personally. I’ve known CuteC for 3 years and reading such things is just so heartbreaking and lowkey irritating. She’s a lovely and very sweet person and was the one to actually initiate a friendship with me, she has never ever judged me and was there for me when i needed a listening ear, so I really wish her nothing but happiness and joy because she’s a beautiful person in and out and she deserves the world
@@sun-ox3bt Firstly, there are lines that we do not cross as friends or as a person in general. I am not in any position to ask her who or why she is dating any person, i am in no position to ask her to stay away from anybody especially if their relationship does not affect me in any way, which it doesn’t. From my statement above, I am letting ya’ll know from my own personal experience of how lovely of a person she is and that she deserves all the wonderful things that the world has to offer. Next, her relationship with Ryan is between her and Ryan. No one else knows their relationship better than they themselves would and in turn, no one should have a say about their relationship - myself included. As long as they are not doing anything wrong, they deserve and are entitled to their own happiness and joy. They are both amazing people. Let’s spread love instead of unnecessary hate please, thanks!!
After watching this video, I'm really getting to like Nina A LOT! I've been watching NOC's videos many years ago, and (I'm sorryyyy!) I thought Nina is that type of "dumb blonde" when watching the videos she's acting in (I know she's just acting for the video). But after this video, I really think Nina is very smart, insightful and a logical person. She seems to be a like a nice and dependable sister to have 😊 I'm a new Nina fan! ❤️
Totally agree with Nina, it really depends on which stage in life. At different stage in life we view things differently. Think at 21 when i still view myself as young..a 32 yr old man will seem far too old for me. Now at 31, think if i met a man who's 11yrs older than me..so long as he dont look like my father/grandfather i think its ok😉
HAHA yassss! I also think that it also depends on which sibling position they are... *USUALLY* the eldest will be the most mature, because they have to help look after their younger siblings, hence maturing faster.... whereas the younger or the youngest ones... everything is kinda spoon fed to them.
I agree with yall. If they are together, they are 2 consenting adults. Also, they don't owe an answer to anyone just because they are public figures. I support!
My boyfriend & I are 11 years apart, I’m 21 & he is 32. We have been together for 2 years & we are in process of selecting our BTO. I used to think age gap is a problem but if both are happy together then it isn’t a problem at all! So long as you are happy, outsiders opinion doesn’t really matter.
Age gap no no no , age gap is not the problem . Its never.... ofc u happy together ...stabble income , what singaporean girl priority is money first and look and age . As long as he got the money n not too ugly its ok . It jist happend that man meet u first or maybe u r the only one who accept him
The BOMB I disagree to what you said, he was once jobless when he was with me & we paid for each other’s expenses. It’s the maturity mindset & thoughtfulness that capture me. We were friends for 3 years before we were together & he took a long time to woo me before I accepted him. In fact, before I was with him, I had few other boyfriends who are slightly older than me & their mindset isn’t as far ahead & mature. They are rich too but still no happy ending. Not all Singaporean girls prioritise money first. I begin working even way before i was together with him. So I disagree to this stigma that many people have.
Valerie Huiyi how old r u now???? 21 yo 2 years ago right ??If not , that mean u was 16 when u know him ??hmmm predator .hope its wrong..... U have been friend for 3 years before dating him for 2 years, total 5y. troughout 5year u know him , he was once jobless . N in 5 years, u and him manage to save money for ur new hdb???or he is the one who pay everything ...... i see rich family background
Beauty and the beast haha. Ryan looks don't match lah, but he has the moolah maybe girl is just a gold digger and want the daddy attention, younger guys don't have the money to splurge and make her feel like a princess..
I just want to say that even though I agree that age gap is not an issue, I think that this mindset that old men can date younger women can in fact be damaging to society. Why? Because this is encouraging young men in our society to think that they can play around with women up to their 40s, and settle down with a much younger woman later on in their lives. Imagine this. You are now a 20 year old man, committed to a relationship with a woman the same age as you. But then because of that mindset, you think that it's ok not to have a lasting relationship with her just because 10 years later, you can just find a new girlfriend who's 20 to settle down with anyway. By then, that woman you are with now would be 30, and you would think that it's ok to just dump her because you, as a man, are still worth your value, unlike her, not worth her value anymore. Do you think that's a healthy mindset? Do think about it. However, if you meet someone you love and coincidentally there's an age gap, that's a totally different story. This is what will get my blessings. But the example I gave above is what I see as unacceptable, and quite common these days.
The age gap is not the problem , but the girl age is the problem. My uncel n his wive different 13yo but she was 25 n my uncle 38. No dating ,straight away to the wedding .the girl is tooo green , we all know how bad we were at 23-25 below . Not mature enough and so naive
I do agree that this is a common thinking/mindset but then again, what’s to determine a man/woman’s “value”? Traditionally it’s solely based on youth and superficial things like that. But today, with more working women and women having less of their life revolving around men/ seeking affirmation from men, have the definition changed? Imo, one’s value is the sum of their experiences and age, strengths and weaknesses, wisdom and vulnerability. Afterall, age is the main focus only if you insist so. Cheers! (:
@@Chloe-dl3lh Lol I did not say that we should judge others by their so called value I mentioned. In fact, judging both women and men by their value is indeed incredibly wrong. I was just bringing up the point that society measures our value in that way, to measure people according to those standards, is incredibly sad and superficial, especially when you include age in that measurement. It just becomes even more annoying when men measure the value of women as higher when women are younger.
Age gap becomes an illusion as you grow up. The line between ages 20s and 30s starts to disappear as you grow older because the mindset and the things you experience starts to become more and more similar as oppose to someone who is in their 10+ age dating someone in their 20s whereby the life experiences maybe completely different.
Discussed such stuff about age gap in relationship some time back and I agree that above legal age is okay. It's not like a a 20 years old dating a 10 years old.
timestamps 0:00 : intro to the issue 6:40 : discussion about their age gap discussion 19:13 : discussion about their income gap 23:40 : discussion about their own ideal criterias
I think their dating cause Ryan’s recent IG pictures have the similar filter with C which he doesn’t really use this filter previously. Plus the girl admitted that she’s in a relationship, but didn’t mention with who just to make it clear. Sending warm wishes to both of them if they’re dating! 🤣
le stabby ofc he is dating her lah, what just friend but buy a new dog ????stupid is it , ez to predict lah the girl realy want to have dog but maybe the parent or something so she cant keep any animal in the house ....
I don't think their age gap is a problem at all! But i do think that people are probably freaking out about this because sylvia and ryan got divorced not too long ago (maybe a year? in comparison to them being together for 10 years+) and all of the sudden, ryan has a much younger gf in his life...I just think that people did not think they were ready to be in another relationship so quickly and that ryan has moved on too fast
This is what I’m thinking!! I don’t care abt the age gap since the girl is 21 already, it’s her choice. But I mean.... it’s 10years relationship and within a few months, he suddenly got into a new relationship
I dont see a problem with age gap. Me and my husband are 11 years apart. And I got together with him when I was 21, I was still studying. And we are now married, with 2 kiddos. Yes, people will judge our rs and all, but who cares. Those that matters dont mind, those that mind dont matters. What I can say is, as long the rs is strong enough. We both dont mind. So i dont see where there is a problem with it.
@En Hui Lim if you observe carefully you will understand the ryan & cuteC romance wasn't just only recent. he liked her some time ago. the divorce video right... ryan is v emotional, he alway show how he feel, can cry today and then be v happy tomorrow... syl may feel sad but sheis rational and so she does not always show her emotion. too many people jump into bandwagon of pitying ryan just for crying when the observant ones already know that cuteC and him had something on. go and watch jianhaos video about ryan and read some comments. months ago people commented about ryan liking cuteC. in the end sylvia took all thee poopz just for looking stoic on divorce video, I felt bad for her. she should be the one crying when all these years ryan has been drooling and sexualising (smash or pass) over girls around them lor. other than celeb, do you see sylvia talking on video about how hot male friends are around her? now ryanis officially single, immediately jump on one of girls he drools over. u see what man he is?
Oof I feel the point about tardiness. It sucks when we make plans to meet at a certain time and you just wait there for the person for a few hours. It feels like they don't respect our time or thinks that they are more important than us as a person.
My bf is 9 years younger than me and we click so well! Two years in and we are still strong :) I think it boils down to the chemistry. I’m childish I admit hahaha
My husband is 11 yrs older than me .. I am going 49 n he is 60 .. met him when i was 21 n he was 32 ...We hv a son age 25 . We are rolling into 26 yrs of marriage this year ! ❤
Men should also not be judged by their height and age. These are toxic and obnoxious ideals of masculinity. It doesn't mean that a taller man can make women feel more protected than a short man does. It's as rude as saying that a woman who is tall is unwanted by men because of her height. Some young men are more mature than older men. Do not judge one's maturity based on their age.
Honestly regarding all of this, I don't think it's THAT bad. My parents are 10 yrs apart and there''s nothing wrong with that? Besides, as long as both happy then ok can we be happy for them
I also agree emotional support is very important..because especially if the woman is as capable as the man, in terms of having her own job, income, life etc, emotional support is really one of the few and crucial things that we are seeking in our partner
I think a deal breaker for me personally is difference in financial values (savings, investing, spending etc). And also attitudes towards conflict management. I really dislike people who avoid conflict and do not address problems when they arise and come to a compromise or solution.
I am confused. On one hand, one should overlook income gap because the party who is drawing no/lower income could be contributing to the relationship in other non-monetary ways. How does this fit with S's idea that her partner must draw a higher income if the arguement is that income gap is not an issue? Apparently the conclusion is that it is OK for women to draw no/low income but it is unacceptable if the man draws low/no income. Sexist huh
I'm on board with you on this. Although I do think that Sylvia has her point on this too, that a lot of men she has met who earns less than her don't feel "manly" enough to take care of her. In other words, it's not always about her, but the men themselves are too egoistic and patriarchal to accept the fact that their women can earn more than them. I do think that some men can accept that, but sadly a lot of men who say they can, end up struggling with this issue. Then they cheat on these women with other women who act like damsels in distress. They just cannot accept a woman who's more "powerful" than them.
Cassandra Wong Thank you for this. Sad but true 😩 I think we mentioned in an older podcast too when a friend’s ex husband (who earned less than her) used to control her psychologically and even physically abused her to retain his sense of control that he is the man in the rs.
I'm sure it is not uncommon to encounter men that you have mentioned. But isn't it too superficial to paint men in such broad strokes that one or a few egoistic man becomes representative of the entire population? I do find this problematic when you rely on a salary indicator to "suppress a man's ego" because salary like many life circumstances is not stagnant / cast in stone. I.e. If your male partner draws a higher income now but loses his job/business in the future or your salary grows faster than his, will you ditch him because his ego can no longer be kept in check by a higher income? Most if not all women do not enjoy an egoistic men, but relying on a salary to guarantee an ego-free man and safeguard yourself is hardly a smart move either (very stupid I must say - please look out for other red flags instead of looking solely at the salary). There are relationships that work out precisely because both parties value things more important that the salary and it goes both ways. Some real life examples of men who were initially financially supported by their female partners before they became successful (i won't post their stories here just Google them) : Lee Ang supported by wife Jane while he pursued his film making career, LKY supported by KGC while he pursued his political career. Lastly just want to say that ideas whether good or bad don't happen in isolation, they persist when people believe in it and act upon it. When the woman believes that the man must draw a higher income (to counter the male ego that may or may not exist/affect the relationship negatively) it further perpetuates the deeply entrenched and problematic societal expectation that that man must draw a higher salary. 🤷 P/S: I'm not dismissing women who have suffered bad relationships with lower-incomed men (there are individuals who are just not ready for relationships). And I do not think expecting a man to draw a higher income is necessarily a terrible preference just as everyone has their personal preferences and quirks about relationships from appearance to achievements. I just want to point out that if the intention is to safeguard yourself from a man with a potentially low self esteem /big ego, the salary is NOT a foolproof method to assuage your fears. Pleae watch out for other behavioural signs.
Mai Chieko oh dear u must be a girl right , u will never understand . If the man have higher icome than his wife than its ok , but if the wife have higher income trust me wont last long . Many girl are bossy type and whenever they fight this issue will appear . Girls never care about his husband feeling all she know is her feeling , is not wrong wife have higher income. But pls never ever mentioning about that to ur husband whenever u have fight . Another problem if both of u working n how to make baby?? U know man stressed not good for his sperm n now the girl also work and then she will say this “im not mood right now” “im too tired” and later if ur husband cheat u will say “ i work harder for us “ “u have lower income than me n u dare cheat” cant relate?? Please dont listen the advice from nina n sylvia , i love them but they dont have kids yet . Their thougt is dangerous for the future girl . Many gorl will chose single life and singapore will going down no new young generation??
TEA?!? I'm taking notes for a future Alpha Lady! but seriously Tardiness is such a deal breaker. I know because I used to be one as a young punk. Now I know the importance of time and respecting the agreement to meet up. In business, in life, friendships or otherwise if you're constantly not respecting this simple agreement. You are no longer in my life. It also shows if they have self respect. other deal breakers: being mature enough to listen fully and then reply in conversation not some crazy all about me interrupting you constantly and never listening to you genuinely. Ambition/direction in life. If that's not a goal now. Then if things ever hit the fan lets say for one side. I can lean towards this b ain't loyal. LOL. Great podcast!
Also Age Is not a problem. It's do these people who are "in love.dating" match up? My grandparents 10 yrs apart, uncle and aunt 8 years. some friend's 7-8 years diff some much more. People just need to mind their own business and forget about gossip to make their own lives entertaining. especially at the misery of others. Be happy for people and spread that love period!
Aiyoh. I experienced the same, I was almost in a relationship with a guy... he's like in his late 30s while I'm in my early 20s 😁 and then we realized our differences and just wanted to be friends instead 🤦🏻♀️
Same girl, i feel you. In my case, we were 18 years apart. Although we really liked each other, and dated for a year. We ultimately ended it because we realised this couldn’t last :(
@@evelynang2890 sorry it took me a long time to give response 😁 I know the feeling 😓 especially when the both of you are already a team, a couple against the world... but then either one or the both of you realized that it's not gonna happen 💔 I hope you find someone new, once you're ready again.
Nothing against the age gap, but to think in another perspective. What if Ryan is not the CEO & founder of a company, what if he is not as rich as he is now? Will cutesie still choose Ryan over other much more handsome and younger guys who might be in the queue given her look and age.
i got so many deal breakers, and they are all reasonable one: 1. ppl that are self entitled, because never think you are better than others, (cuz that just means they stopped growing mentally alr) 2. ppl that get mad and blame girls because of their own insecurities and immaturity 3. flakiness (just fk off dont waste my precious time) 4. narrow minded people (even for friends, its a huge turn off) 5. ppl that dont know how to love themselves 6. ppl with no passion or goals on anything and only want to find a girl to fuck 7. overthinkers and jumping into conclusions without asking the girl to clarify 8. CLINGY GUYS (go get a fking life) 9. constantly trying many ways to make u jealous (like flirting with other ppl etc) 10. ppl doesnt reply to texts until 1 day or more later
Everybody has their flaws. There is bound to be someone that has one flaw in that list. If you have that much dealbreakers, i think you shouldn't even be dating 😂😂😂
@@nekoneko7196 theres also ppl in this world that arent so childish like i mentioned in my dealbreakers, we just probably havent met them yet. And i rather stay single than to deal with ppl like them anymore
I feel very entertained by both of you. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts about deal breakers. I have few of my deal breakers which are waiting for the guy during an appointment, lazy, messy, need to repeat many times and always play games.
Lmao I felt Nina when she talked about flakiness. Flakiness is a no for me also, because it boils down to respect. Like the fact the person can flake means they dont respect you, dont respect your time, dont respect your effort, and dont respect the other things and other people that had to make way just for you to see that person. Age gap, as long as it is between 2 consenting adults, who cares la sia. Height though.... im slightly taller than average and i use to be like if the guy below 175 is no way. My current bf is 160 and it is the happiest relationship I have ever been in. After awhile the personality will outshine the physical characteristics de.
Dealbreaker: Naive girls. I don’t like having to go home to someone who’s easily scammed or deceived by others who are fake or have ulterior motives. It’s frustrating to me. Maybe that’s why I prefer dating someone of my age like my girlfriend. If not older girls are better. Usually wiser. Young girls are cute but not appealing to me? I prefer someone who shares the same generation of childhood memories. Different strokes for different folks.
i think the issue is that she just turned 21. i dont think it's about the age gap. if ryan is 42 and she is 31 or vice versa, it would be less controversial.
Is Sylvia OK? Is she sad? But like I saw this couple,20 year old girl and a 60 year old man together and also a 50 year old woman and 30 year old man together. True love wins.
I dont really care who ryan wants to date but all I can say is that being in a r/s with a huge age gap is tough. So if you genuinely want to be together, it requires a lot of time and dedication to learn and fully understand each other's feelings and situation. Screw what the GENERAL PUBLIC has to say, they probably bored of their own life that they have to bother others. Only time will tell their hidden intention and desires so stop making it difficult for them. :)
Not a very fair statement to say that cause the guy is younger and in a shotgun marriage that's why he behaves like that. Some guys who are older and in a shotgun marriage will also behave irresponsibly. So its not the age, its the mentality and maturity, and the circumstances for the marriage.
Nina's angry expression while saying "我生气" is so cute! Unfortunately , society is judgmental even when it is none of their business ( too much free time). Good on Ryan on finding a friend to share his puppy parenthood with ..that pup will be so loved! Major deal-breaker is possessiveness and insecurity in a guy....its not a good look!
i really dont understand NOC. Yall dont want people to gossip about yall but you guys create these sort of videos that provide a platform for people to spread more gossip. ?????
I (as female & from Malaysia) dated and engaged with someone younger than me for 5 years. I met my fiancé (from Australia) when he is 25 and I'm going to be 30 that time. Caught in my surpise he is very down to earth also very matured thinking as compare to average man (comparing man from malaysia or singapore) who at their 25. Myself are a very independent woman, never thought of getting marry back then because guys are hopeless and I don't need a man to make me happy. Until I met him obviously. The guy obviously earn lesser than me back then.. but the fact we growth up together so much he now earning very similar to me.. that's the beauty of the relationship, growth together, success together and fail together. that being said, woman still need to be independence by herself and not over reliant on the guy. My family member very skepitcal about the relationship but throughout the years, he proof to my parents that they are wrong. haha. o well, who know ten or twenty years down the road but human should look at the bright side.
And that age gap rule is rubbish. How and who decided that +7 years? I think as long as both are of legal age, there should be no problem. 21(female) and 32(male) are both of legal age.
What if your partner had a long day and so dead tired that he/she falls asleep despite their utmost attempts to stay awake and try to lend a listening ear but you die die just need a form/moment to release? Is that considered a dealbreaker/brushing off?
In the first place, when your other half has worked hard all day and is really tired, you will know. The One who is your loved one and loves you deeply will naturally be concerned and want you to rest well.
Wife older than husband: Queen. Husband older than wife: Pedo. Sudahlah... You want to date or get married, find someone who is not as old as your parents and not as young as your niece/nephew lah.
My husband is 20 years + older than me. 😂 And yes there is a difference being with someone my age vs with someone older. Ryan should totally go for the girl. 🤭
My parents are 14 years apart, I think age doesn't matter, and it really depends on which phase of life you're at, maturity and your characters matter a lot, people have the right to love who they want to
for income gap i don't really agree with sylvia, cuz if ur really in love and yall love each other, there is no reason to care about other people's opinions. also, earning more money doesn't make u of a higher status. if the guy has a lesser income, why wld he feel intimidated if money wasnt a factor in ur relationship at all? everyone needs money and people work hard for it. but theres no reason to bring it up in a relationship. fun fact, my mom earns almost 3 times as much money as my dad, but my dad is more generous than my mom so normally he would pay for things for me n my sister and treat us to good food. my mom doesnt bring up the topic of money so naturally, my dad wont feel like he is inferior to my mom. both my mom and dad only have one car, one apartment and they pay for it together. they have a joint bank account and even though most of it in it is my mom's money, once the money is in the joint bank account, its for the family.
You should get your dad to share with us tips on how he puts your mom above his ego! Easy to say but honestly hard to achieve. Your dad is amazing to say the least. I have absolute respect for a man like him.
@@sylsylchan he just doesn't have ego AHAHHA.i think the main thing is because he earns enough for himself and both him and my mom knows that they dont need to "provide" for each other or help out with each other's money issues. both my mom and dad were poor when they were young and they understand the topic of money very well. my dad keeps saying my mom is very stingy so ppl sometimes think that he earns more. my mom said men are normally more prideful but my dad is not because he knows that earning less is not something to be ashamed of. he was in a worse situation last time, and my mom also understands because she was poor too.
I personally think it depends on a man's self confidence or self esteem. If his confidence level is low, he will feel that he is not good enough for his partner when his partner has more and more achievements from day to day. This negative feeling will accumulate and burst into resentment toward his partner for making him feel that he is a person who is worse than her. So, i think it's because your dad has a healthy self esteem :) He feels proud of your mum's achievements and to have your mum is his life! Building capabilities generally helps to build a person's self confidence and also, generally, income is one of the ways for a person to prove his capability. So, if a man is able to earn more than Sylvia, i suppose it's quite safe to say that the man should have a pretty good level of self confidence to have Sylvia as his partner. Guys with both low self confidence and income less than Sylvia will run away from her even before they explore the possibilities between them because they are intimidated by her 😅
I think ultimate is the couple lifestyle and their spending habits . Do the ladies expect the guy to pay , the guys offering to pay or the are willing to go Dutch . In terms of family expenses wise , both party maybe paying for different bills and all. Like one pay for the car installment while another pay for the mortgage. Don't have to argue above who is paying more or who is paying less.
i don’t see age gap being a problem. My dad and my step mom are 10 years apart and they are very happy together and i am also very happy for them and support them. As long as they are happy age doesn’t really matters. At least that’s what i feel 😬
To be fair, the dynamic between Ryan and Cute C goes beyond age gap, given that she is Jian Hao's employee. The fact that you guys and Jian Hao had to put out a statement around a month ago about your comments of NOC girls (your employees, by the way) in that disgusting Smash or Pass video; only for Ryan and Cute C to be allegedly dating, is a slap in the face. It just goes to show that the blurred boundaries that was a problem in that video is not even corrected. ETA: There seems to be some confusion in the replies to my comment, so I'll provide some more context. For the record, all these evidences I'm showing is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, which means I'm not breaking any TH-cam guidelines nor laws here. 1) Cute C in the podcast is hired as Jian Hao's talent and is one of the TIT5 cast members. For the sake of her privacy given that the hosts had not divulged her identity, I shall not as well, but the information is out there and not difficult to find should you want to seek it. /I do not condone sending her any form of harassments though./ 2) The Smash or Pass video was one of the trilogy videos made I believe in 2017 by NOC, Jian Hao and Dee Kosh with their "Shady Sunday" installment. The video is rather self-explanatory, where NOC, Jian Hao and Dee Kosh will declare whether they want to sleep with or pass on the person nominated in this "game". Some of the names thrown around were NOC girls. There were mild backlash over the hostile and harassing nature of these videos at the time and the three creators and Xiaxue dismissed critiques (which included Noah Yap) as being sensitive and uptight. Due to the allegations of Dee Kosh that surfaced about a month ago regarding sexual assault and consent, his close friends like those above mentioned came under fire too, and Jian Hao and NOC distanced themselves from the videos through their Instastories despite the very different reaction to the similar critiques back then. The video has since been taken down by Jian Hao on youtube and legally removed on reddit, but here's the transcript if you want to see it: www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/id14ln/ryan_and_sylvia_from_noc_discuss_with_dee_kosh/?sort=new Here's also the twitter thread I made showing the Instastories screenshots of Jian Hao and NOC's responses: twitter.com/handthigh/status/1296512634800336897 ETA 2: Just in case I wasn't clear enough, I shall repeat again in black and white terms. The reason I provide information about Cute C is not to dox her, but rather further explain the reason for such dissent Ryan is justifiably receiving given the track record of crossing professional boundaries. Expressing sexual interest in your employees regardless publicly (i.e.: the Smash or Pass video) or privately IS workplace sexual harassment. Furthermore, given that Ryan is a co-owner of NOC, it makes his position on par with Jian Hao, whom is Cute C's employer. There is a very clear power dynamics at play here, which naturally already comes with a large age gap given that the brain development is still ongoing at young adulthood. This podcast grossly trivialises the critiques of Ryan whether the hosts intended to or not.
Very intrigued by the lengths you went to, to provide this information for.. well, the public whom you appear to think, bothers.. hopefully this is meaningful to you!
Deal breaker: people who are resistant to constructive feedback and perceive it as personal attack, so everyone else is working on themselves while those people stagnate
Ppl who like to post negative remark saying nasty thing abt people relationship. Pls learn to tame your tongue. Put yourself in their shoes n think if you are e one's in their shoes how would u feel... If someone say that to you. World is already stress enough. Why not just spread more positive energy 😊 well u know for e income gap difference if a guy is mature enough have self confidence. goal n version n hardworking toward the goal. I don't see that as a problem.
I agree. I think what Sylvia is looking for is self-confidence and not someone with higher income per see (though there is a higher probability for a man to have greater self-confidence if he earns more)
I totally agree with you girls!! I'm married to a wonderful man who is 22 years older than I am. I have had plenty of naysayers, but I have learn to ignore. What matter most is he respects you and loves you!
Last week, the internet went wild over a certain Mantou Honey's owners! Rumour has it...they're 21 and 32!! How much of an age gap would you accept? Are there any other dealbreakers besides age? Let us know in the comments below 💖
Omg i alw wanted yall to talk abt age gaps
To be honest, maturity level is what we should be considering instead of age. Age is just a number. Never in my life have I ever expect myself to fall in love with someone who is older than me (2 decades).
I have dated people who are the same age as me or slightly older. But those didn’t end well.. because the dealbreaker for me was how they treat me as a person. My current partner treats me with lots of patience and care... which is something that I never expect myself to need it...
And I fall in love with their character and soul... though I wish the height difference can be more, but it didn’t bother me as much as I thought it would... because I genuinely love this person...
❤️❤️❤️ age does not matter for me. heechul from suju and momo from twice have a 14 years gap and i ship then so hard.
theres this girl who dated a guy 9 years younger than her and theyre very happy tgt 👀
The Thirsty Sisters the girl is from jianhao team
this is what we call maturity! when Sylvia can joke about this and talk about it! Proud of you Iron Lady!!!!
Wah so sweet I shy now leh 🥰
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Maturity cos bullying staffs?
Sat through the whole 37mins of it. Enjoying all the tea, and all the past grievances of the both sisters. Spread positivity in the comments, make the internet a better/human place.
Oops,you actually sat out on the 2 seconds.
Why are people so concerned about age gap and income gap? How about mentality gap, emotional intelligence gap, interest gap etc? All these things are happening too and it reveals more troubling issues tbh.
That said, there is no right or wrong in relationships and outsiders shouldn’t have the right to interpret the relationship from an outsider point of view. It’s always about compromise and how the couple choose to work out their differences etc. Afterall, no relationship is without challenge. Cheers!
You said it better than we did! Yes things like mentality, emotional intelligence and interests are so much more crucial in ensuring a lasting relationship! 💪🏼
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Sylvia Chan is not about the age gap!!!!!but the girls age , i didnt see any problem whith the age gap . But gurlll , she still to green and mentaly + emotionaly unstable well u can say not mature enough . Intelegent ofc she is smart didnt waste his time date some poor guy
In my honest opinion , I don't find anything wrong with Ryan dating Cutesie BUT I totally understand why the internet is freaking out and going haywire over this topic . But then again , let's use Ninas' points in this video for easy referencing . Nina said she wouldn't date a 32 years old if she was 21 because of the difference in their life (at that point of time) . I think Ryan and Cutesie wouldn't really last long base on that point . Why ? Ryan is someone who rose to the top with NOTHING under his belt , just Sylvia by his side , you guys probably heard their stories . They literally went through hell to achieve what they have today . Someone who literally went through hell , got married at such a young age , probably has seen alot in life , experience so many different situations that non of us would . And for Cutesie , she is most probably "famous" in social media when she was in school . I assumed she had a few advertising deal and she rose into "popularity" before her 20's . She's 21 now and I assume she is still studying (?) and doesn't really know what "real" life is about yet . There's alot of things she has to go through or learn in order to fully understand Ryan , they are most probably happy now . But of course , Love works in a really mysterious way , they might just make this whole thing work out . I hope they do work out , IF they are together in the first place . All the best !
basically sylvia is fucking salty LMAO
That cat looks like he's having the time of his life! !This should be a one-time thing though.
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I dont find anything wrong with the age gap.BUT Basicaly she just want the money , nothing is wrong cos who want to date a poor guy???? My advice dont find gf from the same industry . Either this 2 if she not after the money then she want the fame or maybe both
Yup, probably Ryan may need someone that been through more things in life to understand him. Cute C I feel has only just starting to see the world compared to Ryan, who have gone through a marriage ,failures and hardship in life.
cutesie, defuq?
I used to agree to height issue. It was one of the dealbreakers for me.
But me, being a long 175cm girl living in this tiny ass red dot, its not easy to find a '' tall man" who can tick all my 'boxes' in a relationship. I've grown and learnt overtime that what I really want most, is who the guy is on the inside, how he treat his family, friends etc. Cliché as it is.
Oh, forgot to mention, Im dating a guy that's 10cm SHORTER than me. And Im happier.
Love this ep btw
I am too 175cm tall 🥺 I’m also trying to overcome the height issues but it’s so hard and yes it’s hella hard for me to find tall guys where I’m from as well sigh
Samantha Ashleyy I understand how you feel about it too, Samantha. Somehow, no matter how tall my date is or good looking, I wasn’t happy as much as how I am now. I still struggle when strangers gave us weird stare. Like it’s a sin to be tall & to date shorter guys.
And my partner used to struggle with that as well, much more than I do sometimes. In time, it just became such a norm to get stared at. Kinda felt unique:). Because, it’s the Heart that Matters :)
So cute!! I totally relate to you! I'm dating a guy that's 5cm shorter than me, and my height is 169cm. We both gradually embraced the height difference and we will joke about who's taller and shorter too hehe 😂 Yup feeling unique as a couple ✨
Hello Hello yes !! It took awhile for us to adapt but we started make jokes bout it too. 🤣🤣
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If Sylvia can talk about this like a champ, then all of us also can lorghhhh😂😂
As someone who is below 21, I think age gap plays quite a part during this period of life but I feel like as we get older we tend to not really look at it. Putting physical criterias aside personally I feel like the mental side of us is the ultimate deal breaker. Is hard for me to imagine a relationship where both parties still have to act like another version of themselves rather than just let go all of their alternate version and be themself. Overall I think the mental side could be overlooked when people are searching for relationship.
Sylvia is super nice..providing Ryan with moral support :). Still remember the number of people who bashed her during the divorce. Rude
Nah, its fake.
Definitely fake
My parents age gap is 10 years. I don't see there is any problem with Ryan and his girl big age gap. Netizens nowadays are ridiculous. Let Ryan ro be who he want or do whatever he wants. Mind your own business.
Kitteh Kat YAH SAME WITH MY PARENTS!! Honestly as long as they’re happy then can lah, just be happy for them
That cat looks like he's having the time of his life! !This should be a one-time thing though.
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i thought discrimination doesn’t exist anymore turns out it’s still there in terms of age gap in relationships
His girl is cherylene Chan from titan
@@feliciapangxinhui9279 we know
“Ehy B, i got a new dog” 🥺 old habits die hard hehe secute
Ifkr i thought i heard wrong
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Wholeheartedly agree when Nina said that it hurts to read when you know them personally. I’ve known CuteC for 3 years and reading such things is just so heartbreaking and lowkey irritating. She’s a lovely and very sweet person and was the one to actually initiate a friendship with me, she has never ever judged me and was there for me when i needed a listening ear, so I really wish her nothing but happiness and joy because she’s a beautiful person in and out and she deserves the world
Srsly. Then ask her why is she dating Ryan and ask her to find a money source elsewhere and stay away from Sylvia ex husband.
@@sun-ox3bt Firstly, there are lines that we do not cross as friends or as a person in general. I am not in any position to ask her who or why she is dating any person, i am in no position to ask her to stay away from anybody especially if their relationship does not affect me in any way, which it doesn’t. From my statement above, I am letting ya’ll know from my own personal experience of how lovely of a person she is and that she deserves all the wonderful things that the world has to offer. Next, her relationship with Ryan is between her and Ryan. No one else knows their relationship better than they themselves would and in turn, no one should have a say about their relationship - myself included. As long as they are not doing anything wrong, they deserve and are entitled to their own happiness and joy. They are both amazing people. Let’s spread love instead of unnecessary hate please, thanks!!
I am just happy that Slyvia and Nina isn’t judgmental towards Ryan moving on!
After watching this video, I'm really getting to like Nina A LOT! I've been watching NOC's videos many years ago, and (I'm sorryyyy!) I thought Nina is that type of "dumb blonde" when watching the videos she's acting in (I know she's just acting for the video). But after this video, I really think Nina is very smart, insightful and a logical person. She seems to be a like a nice and dependable sister to have 😊 I'm a new Nina fan! ❤️
Totally agree with Nina, it really depends on which stage in life. At different stage in life we view things differently. Think at 21 when i still view myself as young..a 32 yr old man will seem far too old for me. Now at 31, think if i met a man who's 11yrs older than me..so long as he dont look like my father/grandfather i think its ok😉
HAHA yassss! I also think that it also depends on which sibling position they are... *USUALLY* the eldest will be the most mature, because they have to help look after their younger siblings, hence maturing faster.... whereas the younger or the youngest ones... everything is kinda spoon fed to them.
I agree with yall. If they are together, they are 2 consenting adults. Also, they don't owe an answer to anyone just because they are public figures. I support!
But I'm still gald that sylvia is happy and still continues smiling
Why wouldnt she be happy/smiling tho lol
She’s very good at maintaining . And she uses her exaggerated funny voices and sounds to hide behind it
Of course she is smiling, cos she is the one bullying her staffs and grabbing her ex husband property.
Nina being secretive about her age.
Also Nina: at 29.... :)
My boyfriend & I are 11 years apart, I’m 21 & he is 32. We have been together for 2 years & we are in process of selecting our BTO. I used to think age gap is a problem but if both are happy together then it isn’t a problem at all! So long as you are happy, outsiders opinion doesn’t really matter.
Age gap no no no , age gap is not the problem . Its never....
ofc u happy together ...stabble income , what singaporean girl priority is money first and look and age . As long as he got the money n not too ugly its ok . It jist happend that man meet u first or maybe u r the only one who accept him
The BOMB I disagree to what you said, he was once jobless when he was with me & we paid for each other’s expenses. It’s the maturity mindset & thoughtfulness that capture me. We were friends for 3 years before we were together & he took a long time to woo me before I accepted him. In fact, before I was with him, I had few other boyfriends who are slightly older than me & their mindset isn’t as far ahead & mature. They are rich too but still no happy ending. Not all Singaporean girls prioritise money first. I begin working even way before i was together with him. So I disagree to this stigma that many people have.
Valerie Huiyi how old r u now???? 21 yo 2 years ago right ??If not , that mean u was 16 when u know him ??hmmm predator .hope its wrong.....
U have been friend for 3 years before dating him for 2 years, total 5y. troughout 5year u know him , he was once jobless . N in 5 years, u and him manage to save money for ur new hdb???or he is the one who pay everything ...... i see rich family background
Literally no one is hating them. They just don’t look good together that’s why there’s such a hoo ha over it
Beauty and the beast haha. Ryan looks don't match lah, but he has the moolah maybe girl is just a gold digger and want the daddy attention, younger guys don't have the money to splurge and make her feel like a princess..
I just want to say that even though I agree that age gap is not an issue, I think that this mindset that old men can date younger women can in fact be damaging to society. Why? Because this is encouraging young men in our society to think that they can play around with women up to their 40s, and settle down with a much younger woman later on in their lives. Imagine this. You are now a 20 year old man, committed to a relationship with a woman the same age as you. But then because of that mindset, you think that it's ok not to have a lasting relationship with her just because 10 years later, you can just find a new girlfriend who's 20 to settle down with anyway. By then, that woman you are with now would be 30, and you would think that it's ok to just dump her because you, as a man, are still worth your value, unlike her, not worth her value anymore. Do you think that's a healthy mindset? Do think about it.
However, if you meet someone you love and coincidentally there's an age gap, that's a totally different story. This is what will get my blessings. But the example I gave above is what I see as unacceptable, and quite common these days.
wow. you good! 😁
The age gap is not the problem , but the girl age is the problem. My uncel n his wive different 13yo but she was 25 n my uncle 38. No dating ,straight away to the wedding .the girl is tooo green , we all know how bad we were at 23-25 below . Not mature enough and so naive
I do agree that this is a common thinking/mindset but then again, what’s to determine a man/woman’s “value”? Traditionally it’s solely based on youth and superficial things like that. But today, with more working women and women having less of their life revolving around men/ seeking affirmation from men, have the definition changed? Imo, one’s value is the sum of their experiences and age, strengths and weaknesses, wisdom and vulnerability. Afterall, age is the main focus only if you insist so. Cheers! (:
@@Chloe-dl3lh Lol I did not say that we should judge others by their so called value I mentioned. In fact, judging both women and men by their value is indeed incredibly wrong. I was just bringing up the point that society measures our value in that way, to measure people according to those standards, is incredibly sad and superficial, especially when you include age in that measurement. It just becomes even more annoying when men measure the value of women as higher when women are younger.
Cassandra Wong alright! Thanks for the clarification (:
Age gap becomes an illusion as you grow up. The line between ages 20s and 30s starts to disappear as you grow older because the mindset and the things you experience starts to become more and more similar as oppose to someone who is in their 10+ age dating someone in their 20s whereby the life experiences maybe completely different.
Discussed such stuff about age gap in relationship some time back and I agree that above legal age is okay.
It's not like a a 20 years old dating a 10 years old.
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0:00 : intro to the issue
6:40 : discussion about their age gap discussion
19:13 : discussion about their income gap
23:40 : discussion about their own ideal criterias
Some dealbreakers that bring up red flags are anger management, man-child tendencies, unchangeability
I think their dating cause Ryan’s recent IG pictures have the similar filter with C which he doesn’t really use this filter previously. Plus the girl admitted that she’s in a relationship, but didn’t mention with who just to make it clear. Sending warm wishes to both of them if they’re dating! 🤣
ryan literally posted a pic with her and said new mummy no?
le stabby ofc he is dating her lah, what just friend but buy a new dog ????stupid is it , ez to predict lah the girl realy want to have dog but maybe the parent or something so she cant keep any animal in the house ....
I don't think their age gap is a problem at all! But i do think that people are probably freaking out about this because sylvia and ryan got divorced not too long ago (maybe a year? in comparison to them being together for 10 years+) and all of the sudden, ryan has a much younger gf in his life...I just think that people did not think they were ready to be in another relationship so quickly and that ryan has moved on too fast
Old lady is jealous 🤣 bcoz she doesn't has bf now . If she was at Ryan place she would have done the same .
This is what I’m thinking!! I don’t care abt the age gap since the girl is 21 already, it’s her choice. But I mean.... it’s 10years relationship and within a few months, he suddenly got into a new relationship
@@pandorabox9844 old lady is being 30 old now? come on ? she can also move on evetually it is not like she will keep pinning for him
@@subhabaskaran1849 obviously both have moved on now it's freaking 2yr old topic now 🤣.
4:22 definition of we need to normalise ex-es being friends 🥺🥺🥺❣️
I totally agree with you guys. My parents are 14 years apart and nobody cares.
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Lol go ask them for their tips and tell us
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I think its more uncommon and deemed "strange" when the girl is older than the guy.
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100% agree. I guess it’s been more normalised for girls to date older guys
I dont see a problem with age gap. Me and my husband are 11 years apart. And I got together with him when I was 21, I was still studying. And we are now married, with 2 kiddos. Yes, people will judge our rs and all, but who cares. Those that matters dont mind, those that mind dont matters. What I can say is, as long the rs is strong enough. We both dont mind. So i dont see where there is a problem with it.
Woah ❤️ What’s your secret?
agree >3
Sylvia Chan secret is no cigarettes
@En Hui Lim if you observe carefully you will understand the ryan & cuteC romance wasn't just only recent. he liked her some time ago. the divorce video right... ryan is v emotional, he alway show how he feel, can cry today and then be v happy tomorrow... syl may feel sad but sheis rational and so she does not always show her emotion. too many people jump into bandwagon of pitying ryan just for crying when the observant ones already know that cuteC and him had something on. go and watch jianhaos video about ryan and read some comments. months ago people commented about ryan liking cuteC. in the end sylvia took all thee poopz just for looking stoic on divorce video, I felt bad for her. she should be the one crying when all these years ryan has been drooling and sexualising (smash or pass) over girls around them lor. other than celeb, do you see sylvia talking on video about how hot male friends are around her? now ryanis officially single, immediately jump on one of girls he drools over. u see what man he is?
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Oof I feel the point about tardiness. It sucks when we make plans to meet at a certain time and you just wait there for the person for a few hours. It feels like they don't respect our time or thinks that they are more important than us as a person.
Nina said her age is sensitive but she said her age. Not so long ago, at 21....but shortly after that she said if now at age of 29😂😂
I feel like this is roasting her ex husband lol
My bf is 9 years younger than me and we click so well! Two years in and we are still strong :) I think it boils down to the chemistry. I’m childish I admit hahaha
Hahaha I love how their relationship has progressed so much she can take a dig at her ex and so defend him. 💕
My husband is 11 yrs older than me .. I am going 49 n he is 60 .. met him when i was 21 n he was 32 ...We hv a son age 25 . We are rolling into 26 yrs of marriage this year ! ❤
Awwwwwwww! Thanks for giving us hope that it works (:
@@sylsylchan my parents are 20 years apart! and have been together for 14 years!
My parents are also 14 years apart
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I don't understand why people can hate people just by having a huge age gap I mean, look at Sonia chew at 26 with her 40+ boyfriend
Why is ur name same as mine ?
@@yezien why is YOUR name the same as MINE
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@zi en lol
are u the zi en i know 👀👀👀
Men should also not be judged by their height and age. These are toxic and obnoxious ideals of masculinity. It doesn't mean that a taller man can make women feel more protected than a short man does. It's as rude as saying that a woman who is tall is unwanted by men because of her height. Some young men are more mature than older men. Do not judge one's maturity based on their age.
Honestly regarding all of this, I don't think it's THAT bad. My parents are 10 yrs apart and there''s nothing wrong with that? Besides, as long as both happy then ok can we be happy for them
I also agree emotional support is very important..because especially if the woman is as capable as the man, in terms of having her own job, income, life etc, emotional support is really one of the few and crucial things that we are seeking in our partner
U.S. President Trump is 24 years older than his wife. French President Macron is 25 years younger than his wife. So why care what people think?
FACTS
More facts, Macron's wife is also his TEACHER AT SCHOOL.
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I think a deal breaker for me personally is difference in financial values (savings, investing, spending etc). And also attitudes towards conflict management. I really dislike people who avoid conflict and do not address problems when they arise and come to a compromise or solution.
I am confused. On one hand, one should overlook income gap because the party who is drawing no/lower income could be contributing to the relationship in other non-monetary ways. How does this fit with S's idea that her partner must draw a higher income if the arguement is that income gap is not an issue? Apparently the conclusion is that it is OK for women to draw no/low income but it is unacceptable if the man draws low/no income. Sexist huh
I'm on board with you on this. Although I do think that Sylvia has her point on this too, that a lot of men she has met who earns less than her don't feel "manly" enough to take care of her. In other words, it's not always about her, but the men themselves are too egoistic and patriarchal to accept the fact that their women can earn more than them. I do think that some men can accept that, but sadly a lot of men who say they can, end up struggling with this issue. Then they cheat on these women with other women who act like damsels in distress. They just cannot accept a woman who's more "powerful" than them.
Cassandra Wong Thank you for this. Sad but true 😩 I think we mentioned in an older podcast too when a friend’s ex husband (who earned less than her) used to control her psychologically and even physically abused her to retain his sense of control that he is the man in the rs.
I'm sure it is not uncommon to encounter men that you have mentioned. But isn't it too superficial to paint men in such broad strokes that one or a few egoistic man becomes representative of the entire population? I do find this problematic when you rely on a salary indicator to "suppress a man's ego" because salary like many life circumstances is not stagnant / cast in stone. I.e. If your male partner draws a higher income now but loses his job/business in the future or your salary grows faster than his, will you ditch him because his ego can no longer be kept in check by a higher income? Most if not all women do not enjoy an egoistic men, but relying on a salary to guarantee an ego-free man and safeguard yourself is hardly a smart move either (very stupid I must say - please look out for other red flags instead of looking solely at the salary). There are relationships that work out precisely because both parties value things more important that the salary and it goes both ways. Some real life examples of men who were initially financially supported by their female partners before they became successful (i won't post their stories here just Google them) : Lee Ang supported by wife Jane while he pursued his film making career, LKY supported by KGC while he pursued his political career.
Lastly just want to say that ideas whether good or bad don't happen in isolation, they persist when people believe in it and act upon it. When the woman believes that the man must draw a higher income (to counter the male ego that may or may not exist/affect the relationship negatively) it further perpetuates the deeply entrenched and problematic societal expectation that that man must draw a higher salary. 🤷
P/S: I'm not dismissing women who have suffered bad relationships with lower-incomed men (there are individuals who are just not ready for relationships). And I do not think expecting a man to draw a higher income is necessarily a terrible preference just as everyone has their personal preferences and quirks about relationships from appearance to achievements. I just want to point out that if the intention is to safeguard yourself from a man with a potentially low self esteem /big ego, the salary is NOT a foolproof method to assuage your fears. Pleae watch out for other behavioural signs.
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Mai Chieko oh dear u must be a girl right , u will never understand . If the man have higher icome than his wife than its ok , but if the wife have higher income trust me wont last long . Many girl are bossy type and whenever they fight this issue will appear . Girls never care about his husband feeling all she know is her feeling , is not wrong wife have higher income. But pls never ever mentioning about that to ur husband whenever u have fight . Another problem if both of u working n how to make baby?? U know man stressed not good for his sperm n now the girl also work and then she will say this “im not mood right now” “im too tired” and later if ur husband cheat u will say “ i work harder for us “ “u have lower income than me n u dare cheat” cant relate?? Please dont listen the advice from nina n sylvia , i love them but they dont have kids yet . Their thougt is dangerous for the future girl . Many gorl will chose single life and singapore will going down no new young generation??
i kinda wish they have a male guest for this ep for more diverse opinions and all
True, but males always can give their opinion through the comment section (:
Samuel Ho but having a discussion where ideas can bounce around and can spark new discussions too i just thought itll be nice baaa
Maggie Chua agreed!
Its the thirsty sisters tho
TEA?!? I'm taking notes for a future Alpha Lady! but seriously Tardiness is such a deal breaker. I know because I used to be one as a young punk. Now I know the importance of time and respecting the agreement to meet up. In business, in life, friendships or otherwise if you're constantly not respecting this simple agreement. You are no longer in my life. It also shows if they have self respect. other deal breakers: being mature enough to listen fully and then reply in conversation not some crazy all about me interrupting you constantly and never listening to you genuinely. Ambition/direction in life. If that's not a goal now. Then if things ever hit the fan lets say for one side. I can lean towards this b ain't loyal. LOL. Great podcast!
Also Age Is not a problem. It's do these people who are "in love.dating" match up? My grandparents 10 yrs apart, uncle and aunt 8 years. some friend's 7-8 years diff some much more. People just need to mind their own business and forget about gossip to make their own lives entertaining. especially at the misery of others. Be happy for people and spread that love period!
Any age gap is acceptable as long as they’re happy together!!
Age gap is still a taboo in Asia. People need to mind their own business tho. Haha!
Nina is the logic queen😝
Sit through the whole video. My FIRST ever podcast i've heard completely 😊❤️😍 Really cleared many doubts and changed my perception 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Aiyoh. I experienced the same, I was almost in a relationship with a guy... he's like in his late 30s while I'm in my early 20s 😁 and then we realized our differences and just wanted to be friends instead 🤦🏻♀️
If you love the guy why not go for it? In my opinion if guy late 30s is really want to have a serious r/s settle down liao...
@@icyboy771z I was really rooting for it though, but as what I said, we both realized that we can't be together due to a lot of reasons 🤷🏻♀️
Same girl, i feel you. In my case, we were 18 years apart. Although we really liked each other, and dated for a year. We ultimately ended it because we realised this couldn’t last :(
@@evelynang2890 sorry it took me a long time to give response 😁
I know the feeling 😓 especially when the both of you are already a team, a couple against the world... but then either one or the both of you realized that it's not gonna happen 💔 I hope you find someone new, once you're ready again.
@@shingxinhuilinglinglinglin1982 no worries ❤️ hope that you are doing good
Nothing against the age gap, but to think in another perspective. What if Ryan is not the CEO & founder of a company, what if he is not as rich as he is now? Will cutesie still choose Ryan over other much more handsome and younger guys who might be in the queue given her look and age.
gurl I love this series especially the tea u spilling because yall are like ranting and getting those bad emotions out,its stres relieving😌😌
This was so enjoyable to listen to!! Found myself nodding vigorously when nina talked about the diff stages bit in a rs
i got so many deal breakers, and they are all reasonable one:
1. ppl that are self entitled, because never think you are better than others, (cuz that just means they stopped growing mentally alr)
2. ppl that get mad and blame girls because of their own insecurities and immaturity
3. flakiness (just fk off dont waste my precious time)
4. narrow minded people (even for friends, its a huge turn off)
5. ppl that dont know how to love themselves
6. ppl with no passion or goals on anything and only want to find a girl to fuck
7. overthinkers and jumping into conclusions without asking the girl to clarify
8. CLINGY GUYS (go get a fking life)
9. constantly trying many ways to make u jealous (like flirting with other ppl etc)
10. ppl doesnt reply to texts until 1 day or more later
Everybody has their flaws. There is bound to be someone that has one flaw in that list. If you have that much dealbreakers, i think you shouldn't even be dating 😂😂😂
@@nekoneko7196 thats why im single sis did i say i was dating?
@@nekoneko7196 theres also ppl in this world that arent so childish like i mentioned in my dealbreakers, we just probably havent met them yet. And i rather stay single than to deal with ppl like them anymore
soufrin fr that i understand
I feel very entertained by both of you. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts about deal breakers. I have few of my deal breakers which are waiting for the guy during an appointment, lazy, messy, need to repeat many times and always play games.
Thank you 🥰
@@sylsylchan Keep up with the good work. Will support you & Nina. Side story, I never expect that you will reply me. 😊
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Lmao I felt Nina when she talked about flakiness. Flakiness is a no for me also, because it boils down to respect. Like the fact the person can flake means they dont respect you, dont respect your time, dont respect your effort, and dont respect the other things and other people that had to make way just for you to see that person.
Age gap, as long as it is between 2 consenting adults, who cares la sia.
Height though.... im slightly taller than average and i use to be like if the guy below 175 is no way. My current bf is 160 and it is the happiest relationship I have ever been in. After awhile the personality will outshine the physical characteristics de.
This video did not age well...
Dealbreaker: Naive girls. I don’t like having to go home to someone who’s easily scammed or deceived by others who are fake or have ulterior motives. It’s frustrating to me. Maybe that’s why I prefer dating someone of my age like my girlfriend. If not older girls are better. Usually wiser. Young girls are cute but not appealing to me? I prefer someone who shares the same generation of childhood memories. Different strokes for different folks.
i think the issue is that she just turned 21. i dont think it's about the age gap. if ryan is 42 and she is 31 or vice versa, it would be less controversial.
Puppy love = mutual love for a puppy
huh 32yo considered daddy liao then 42yo gong gong d lo :(
edit : around 10years age gap ok for me personally. as long as both are consenting adults
Is Sylvia OK? Is she sad? But like I saw this couple,20 year old girl and a 60 year old man together and also a 50 year old woman and 30 year old man together. True love wins.
I dont really care who ryan wants to date but all I can say is that being in a r/s with a huge age gap is tough. So if you genuinely want to be together, it requires a lot of time and dedication to learn and fully understand each other's feelings and situation. Screw what the GENERAL PUBLIC has to say, they probably bored of their own life that they have to bother others. Only time will tell their hidden intention and desires so stop making it difficult for them. :)
AIYOOO OUT OF ALL TOPICS I DIDNT EXPECT THISSSS BUT IM SO EXCITED (also why does TH-cam never notify me on time 🙄)
We deliver the unexpected ;)
The Thirsty Sisters Of course, you guys alway surprise me which is the best part of this podcast 😜
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Not a very fair statement to say that cause the guy is younger and in a shotgun marriage that's why he behaves like that. Some guys who are older and in a shotgun marriage will also behave irresponsibly. So its not the age, its the mentality and maturity, and the circumstances for the marriage.
Nina's angry expression while saying "我生气" is so cute! Unfortunately , society is judgmental even when it is none of their business ( too much free time). Good on Ryan on finding a friend to share his puppy parenthood with ..that pup will be so loved! Major deal-breaker is possessiveness and insecurity in a guy....its not a good look!
i really dont understand NOC. Yall dont want people to gossip about yall but you guys create these sort of videos that provide a platform for people to spread more gossip. ?????
true
FYI The formula take into account the life stage. The older the persons age, the larger the absolute gap. Eg 45/2+7=29
i mean, my bf is 28 and i’m 20, we alr dated for almost 2 years so, age is just a number:) but i’m happy that sylvia is still happily smiling!!❤️
My mummy and daddy is 7 years apart, they're actually long distance cousins! So basically,same family tree...
Marinette Lin so cute!!!
@@tlia.. wait so they are related ?
@@valencytable Yeah, they are.
I (as female & from Malaysia) dated and engaged with someone younger than me for 5 years. I met my fiancé (from Australia) when he is 25 and I'm going to be 30 that time. Caught in my surpise he is very down to earth also very matured thinking as compare to average man (comparing man from malaysia or singapore) who at their 25. Myself are a very independent woman, never thought of getting marry back then because guys are hopeless and I don't need a man to make me happy. Until I met him obviously. The guy obviously earn lesser than me back then.. but the fact we growth up together so much he now earning very similar to me.. that's the beauty of the relationship, growth together, success together and fail together. that being said, woman still need to be independence by herself and not over reliant on the guy. My family member very skepitcal about the relationship but throughout the years, he proof to my parents that they are wrong. haha. o well, who know ten or twenty years down the road but human should look at the bright side.
And that age gap rule is rubbish. How and who decided that +7 years? I think as long as both are of legal age, there should be no problem. 21(female) and 32(male) are both of legal age.
After watching this video i can see why ryan left sylvia. And why just about anyone would leave sylvia.
Congratulations to Ryan for moving on n kudos to Sylvia for being a mature n gracious woman.
Thank you love ❤️
@@sylsylchan I'm thirsty...for your 💜💙💖Love💖💙💜 No matter what happens...I'm always here to 💜💙💖Love💖💙💜 you.😍😍😍💜💙💖👄👅💋
What if your partner had a long day and so dead tired that he/she falls asleep despite their utmost attempts to stay awake and try to lend a listening ear but you die die just need a form/moment to release? Is that considered a dealbreaker/brushing off?
This maybe about understanding and lifestyle differences. If it's a daily occurrence then I feel it's a no no.
In the first place, when your other half has worked hard all day and is really tired, you will know. The One who is your loved one and loves you deeply will naturally be concerned and want you to rest well.
Wife older than husband: Queen.
Husband older than wife: Pedo.
Sudahlah...
You want to date or get married, find someone who is not as old as your parents and not as young as your niece/nephew lah.
0:07-0:14 i fell in love with the opening . I compared it to other videos opening and feel this is the best 🥰
Age is never a factor in a relationship. Money, can be an issue in a marriage. Funny aint it
16:20 HAHAH sylviaa 😭
As long as they are in love. I careless about age gap. Moving into a relationship after divorce is not easy already.
My husband is 20 years + older than me. 😂 And yes there is a difference being with someone my age vs with someone older. Ryan should totally go for the girl. 🤭
is noone gna talk about how sylvia said that ryan texted her and said ' ehy b, i got a new dog'
I think he just wanted to hint her about the post lor
love the chemistry btwn these two girls. so entertaining XD
My parents are 14 years apart, I think age doesn't matter, and it really depends on which phase of life you're at, maturity and your characters matter a lot, people have the right to love who they want to
Where are these supposed age-gap hoo-hars anyway?
Meanwhile so happy for Ryan, hope he can finally stop references to his ex.
for income gap i don't really agree with sylvia, cuz if ur really in love and yall love each other, there is no reason to care about other people's opinions. also, earning more money doesn't make u of a higher status. if the guy has a lesser income, why wld he feel intimidated if money wasnt a factor in ur relationship at all? everyone needs money and people work hard for it. but theres no reason to bring it up in a relationship. fun fact, my mom earns almost 3 times as much money as my dad, but my dad is more generous than my mom so normally he would pay for things for me n my sister and treat us to good food. my mom doesnt bring up the topic of money so naturally, my dad wont feel like he is inferior to my mom. both my mom and dad only have one car, one apartment and they pay for it together. they have a joint bank account and even though most of it in it is my mom's money, once the money is in the joint bank account, its for the family.
You should get your dad to share with us tips on how he puts your mom above his ego! Easy to say but honestly hard to achieve. Your dad is amazing to say the least. I have absolute respect for a man like him.
@@sylsylchan he just doesn't have ego AHAHHA.i think the main thing is because he earns enough for himself and both him and my mom knows that they dont need to "provide" for each other or help out with each other's money issues. both my mom and dad were poor when they were young and they understand the topic of money very well. my dad keeps saying my mom is very stingy so ppl sometimes think that he earns more. my mom said men are normally more prideful but my dad is not because he knows that earning less is not something to be ashamed of. he was in a worse situation last time, and my mom also understands because she was poor too.
I personally think it depends on a man's self confidence or self esteem. If his confidence level is low, he will feel that he is not good enough for his partner when his partner has more and more achievements from day to day. This negative feeling will accumulate and burst into resentment toward his partner for making him feel that he is a person who is worse than her.
So, i think it's because your dad has a healthy self esteem :) He feels proud of your mum's achievements and to have your mum is his life!
Building capabilities generally helps to build a person's self confidence and also, generally, income is one of the ways for a person to prove his capability. So, if a man is able to earn more than Sylvia, i suppose it's quite safe to say that the man should have a pretty good level of self confidence to have Sylvia as his partner. Guys with both low self confidence and income less than Sylvia will run away from her even before they explore the possibilities between them because they are intimidated by her 😅
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I think ultimate is the couple lifestyle and their spending habits . Do the ladies expect the guy to pay , the guys offering to pay or the are willing to go Dutch .
In terms of family expenses wise , both party maybe paying for different bills and all. Like one pay for the car installment while another pay for the mortgage. Don't have to argue above who is paying more or who is paying less.
i don’t see age gap being a problem. My dad and my step mom are 10 years apart and they are very happy together and i am also very happy for them and support them. As long as they are happy age doesn’t really matters. At least that’s what i feel 😬
To be fair, the dynamic between Ryan and Cute C goes beyond age gap, given that she is Jian Hao's employee. The fact that you guys and Jian Hao had to put out a statement around a month ago about your comments of NOC girls (your employees, by the way) in that disgusting Smash or Pass video; only for Ryan and Cute C to be allegedly dating, is a slap in the face. It just goes to show that the blurred boundaries that was a problem in that video is not even corrected.
ETA: There seems to be some confusion in the replies to my comment, so I'll provide some more context. For the record, all these evidences I'm showing is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, which means I'm not breaking any TH-cam guidelines nor laws here.
1) Cute C in the podcast is hired as Jian Hao's talent and is one of the TIT5 cast members. For the sake of her privacy given that the hosts had not divulged her identity, I shall not as well, but the information is out there and not difficult to find should you want to seek it. /I do not condone sending her any form of harassments though./
2) The Smash or Pass video was one of the trilogy videos made I believe in 2017 by NOC, Jian Hao and Dee Kosh with their "Shady Sunday" installment. The video is rather self-explanatory, where NOC, Jian Hao and Dee Kosh will declare whether they want to sleep with or pass on the person nominated in this "game". Some of the names thrown around were NOC girls.
There were mild backlash over the hostile and harassing nature of these videos at the time and the three creators and Xiaxue dismissed critiques (which included Noah Yap) as being sensitive and uptight. Due to the allegations of Dee Kosh that surfaced about a month ago regarding sexual assault and consent, his close friends like those above mentioned came under fire too, and Jian Hao and NOC distanced themselves from the videos through their Instastories despite the very different reaction to the similar critiques back then.
The video has since been taken down by Jian Hao on youtube and legally removed on reddit, but here's the transcript if you want to see it:
www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/id14ln/ryan_and_sylvia_from_noc_discuss_with_dee_kosh/?sort=new
Here's also the twitter thread I made showing the Instastories screenshots of Jian Hao and NOC's responses:
twitter.com/handthigh/status/1296512634800336897
ETA 2: Just in case I wasn't clear enough, I shall repeat again in black and white terms. The reason I provide information about Cute C is not to dox her, but rather further explain the reason for such dissent Ryan is justifiably receiving given the track record of crossing professional boundaries. Expressing sexual interest in your employees regardless publicly (i.e.: the Smash or Pass video) or privately IS workplace sexual harassment. Furthermore, given that Ryan is a co-owner of NOC, it makes his position on par with Jian Hao, whom is Cute C's employer. There is a very clear power dynamics at play here, which naturally already comes with a large age gap given that the brain development is still ongoing at young adulthood. This podcast grossly trivialises the critiques of Ryan whether the hosts intended to or not.
Whaaat
Wait what?
Very intrigued by the lengths you went to, to provide this information for.. well, the public whom you appear to think, bothers.. hopefully this is meaningful to you!
@@natarae It's actually not as lengthy as you'd think, given how fast Instagram circulates information. Hopefully this is useful to you!
Deal breaker: people who are resistant to constructive feedback and perceive it as personal attack, so everyone else is working on themselves while those people stagnate
I just felt the everything is so fast for your ex-hubby.. hopefully its not rebound
Ppl who like to post negative remark saying nasty thing abt people relationship. Pls learn to tame your tongue. Put yourself in their shoes n think if you are e one's in their shoes how would u feel... If someone say that to you. World is already stress enough. Why not just spread more positive energy 😊 well u know for e income gap difference if a guy is mature enough have self confidence. goal n version n hardworking toward the goal. I don't see that as a problem.
I agree. I think what Sylvia is looking for is self-confidence and not someone with higher income per see (though there is a higher probability for a man to have greater self-confidence if he earns more)
I totally agree with you girls!! I'm married to a wonderful man who is 22 years older than I am. I have had plenty of naysayers, but I have learn to ignore. What matter most is he respects you and loves you!
Ty for showing everyone it works! ❤️
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Omgg when the notification pops up i tap as fast as i could haha
Fastest fingers first!!! (;
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I have exam this afternoon and I’m spending my time listening to deal breakers in relationships ONZZ
primary school: 1 year difference:
TheMJrealms one year difference is like difference stages in life also lmao
thank you for being so open with discussing about this!!
HAHA Nina sounds like she dated so many people before. LOVE YOUR PODCASTS❤️❤️
but slippers look good on nina...
always love sylvia's voice on mic since the Chinese Radio DJ Video!!
Just support the couple as much as you can in good time or bad time