The Decimate line was a joke about how people commonly misuse the word, but he uses it more correctly in killing off ten percent as a punishment. Deci meaning ten. It's funnier in metric.
Technically, the current use of the word is now correct as well, according to the dictionaries. But yes the original word came from the practice of decimation, where a tenth of a Roman military unit would be put to death as punishment
7:06 "He's entertaining, I'll give him that." Yes, that is a defining characteristic of The Master. In all of his incarnations, he's quite flamboyant and incredibly fun to watch. You really, really want to like him, even when The Master is committing horrors. John Simms is an incredibly good choice to play The Master.
Before John Simm, five other actors have played The Master: Roger Delgado, Peter Pratt, Anthony Ainley, Eric Roberts, and Derek Jacobi. "Mister Saxon" is an anagram of "Master No. Six".
Anthony Ainley's first appearance in the role was in the 4th Doctor story "The Keeper of Traken". He played a character called Tremas before being revealed as The Master. Tremas is an anagram of Master.
This is Geoffrey Beevers erasure, and I won't stand for it. Seriously though, Beevers played the Master immediately before Ainley, in "The Keeper of Traken."
Basically THE main antagonist in Doctor Who, yes. And Jip played him pretty well, a bit cringe, but overall true to the character. I say "Jip" because to me, John Simm is "Jip" from the film "Human Traffic". I saw that one first. 😅 That's also why that one black pilot from the Ood two-parter from series 2 will always be "Coop". 🥹🤭
The Master became Prime Minister for access to all the resources that come with the job (money, power, a military and civilian workforce at his command, etc.).
@@johnniequinn3215 oh yeah, one cannot understate how important UNIT is to own. A military force with the tech, manpower and experience to treat a Dark or Cyberman invasion as a lazy afternoon, with the foresight (iirc) to recognise Torchwood as dangerous enough to have full mobilisation when they brough cybermen over. Just having them puts the Master centuries ahead of even the US in terms of firepower. Of note also, while UNIT has branches in other countries, the hierarchy still goes back to Britain... On the other hand, pretty damn sure they were probably at least prepped to encounter shit considering there's no way they aren't aware that's the master, he's kind of their most wanted by default.
@rexex345 I don't disagree, but do you remember when Eccleston-Doctor erased all memories of himself from the Internet? A lot of collected knowledge about his enemies may have disappeared along the way.
@@johnniequinn3215 Ah, but don't forget, UNIT are affiliated with him, he's quite literally their Head Science director... Even if he's been quite absent as of late. They probably keep backups of everything about him.
The Master is targeting Earth because his greatest enemy, the Doctor, loves it. Jack waited for the Doctor for more than 100 years, the comment "you too?" was definitely referring to himself. And I never thought about it before, but a perception filter would be so so handy to have as a woman!
The master is trapped there so he mad himself one of the most powerful people with a work force to enslave. Also as you can tell he is one for theatrics. And the doctor is 100% the runaway type. Its his whole thing, never staying in one place but a rebel type.
Those keys that make you "unnoticeable". I'm betting they got that from Douglas Adams. (Who wrote for Doctor Who in the old days.) In the Hitchhiker books they have something very similar; the "somebody else's problem field". You're not invisible. People just ignore you because you're somebody else's problem. 🤣
Yeah it was a great choice to have him ape that aspect of the doctor. Spooiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler I just rewatched the 1996 movie and he kind of does it with The Asian fella has him go around and do stuff. Ofcourse he snaps his neck when he disobey him but I think he would have kept him as a pet for a bit if he'd followed orders.
Congrats on the wedding! The paradox has already happened. The way everyone can remember Saxons history when he has only been around for 18 months is the paradox.
no it's not, that was just part of the hypnosis and media manipulation. the âradox is bringing the SPOILERS to the past because they are the SPOILER and killing humans creates the paradox
The line about the Master & Doctor being secretly brothers is a deep pull from Classic. The original Master Roger Delgado was originally supposed to be revealed as the 3rd Doctor's half brother in a series climax but Delgado was killed in a traffic accident so their family relationship never was filmed or canon. Never the less the fando O m has speculated endlessly.
So many classic Master references in this. I particularly love him watching the teletubbies, like how he watched the Clangers all the way back in 1972.
Glad you singled out the Doctor's "it's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist" moment. Such wonderful acting by Agyeman. You just see her face fall without a word spoken. And then that knowing look from Barrowman. Can't wait until you watch the next episode, where she truly shines!
Prime ministers basically hold all the power in the uk. Also the doctor made it so that the tardis couldn’t go any further back in time, basically locking it in place
I assumed the Master got married to fit the image of a politician with a supportive wife. He called the Cabinet members traitors because they abandoned their parties to support him. He presumably ran for Parliament as an independent, then gained support from other MPs, with the help of the Archangel network, and created a new party around himself.
Grits are made from a coarse ground meal consisting of dent corn, boiled to soften, and often served as a breakfast side dish and flavored with butter. And Now You Know 🌈
They intentionally made this version of the Master to be almost like a mirror image of the Doctor: cracking jokes, acting like an ass, but also dangerous. The previous incarnations weren’t like this at all
26:14 yes, the literal meaning of the word "decimate" is to remove/kiII one tenth of something, ie the decimal system. Erosion of language (or evolution, depending on how you choose to perceive it) has led people to equate decimate with annihilate.
The way the UK elections work is that the Prime Minister will call a general election for a soon to be upcoming date. All of Parliament then dissolves after that and its then weeks of campaigning etc. Once the country has voted, whatever party has the most seats up to a certain number, that party leader becomes prime minister. If there's a hung parliament, where no party has enough seats to control power, another party can work with another to reach the amount required. The one with the most seats still becomes prime minister, and they become prime minister that very day after conversing with the king/queen. ... I think anyway. You'd think I'd know being a Brit myself 😂
Spot on The only thing to add, the king/queen meets the PM once every week to discuss what's a happening and can in theory advise the PM on what the rest of the world might think - given all their royal tours and meetings with world leaders the monarchy can devote a lot more time to understanding the international mood than the PM of the day That said if the PM refuses advice that us their progrative and the monarchy will accept the final decision The monarch's only other real power Is that should we ever have a pm who is caught doing something bad like drug smuggling or sex criming then the monarchy has the authority to dismiss the PM on grounds of "embarrassment" stupid term but it Is the legal terminology
@tombo1984 I think most Brits are actually relatively happy with how things are going compared to the last government... Plus, a general election was meant to happen by now anyway.
@@Kranitoko Labour's 25% approval ratings and Starmer's 60% negative approval since the last polling was done would tend to say otherwise. Who'd have thought taking people's heating away, forcing elderly farmers and into suicide and tanking the economy would be taken negatively. Well by most anyway. Apparently you have no problem with that.
@@tombo1984 so they took the heating imbursement away from people who severely didn't need it because they could already afford it... They literally had people on the radio going "yeah but I was saving that money for a holiday" and other people saying they used it for things not heat related. The money was still there for the people who genuinely couldn't afford it. So yknow, there's that. You forgot that part.
The Master has a history with the Brits, that position is hin basically saying "I win and you, who kept fighting me, let me win and do this to you". That's how I always felt
"The Sound of Drums" is also used in the lyric from the song "Voodoo Child" sung by the australian band "The Rogue Traders" which was a huge hit here in australia back in 2005.
Interesting behind-the-scenes trivia on the Toclafane: Russell T. Davies originally thought them up just in case he wasn't allowed to use the Daleks in the new Doctor Who, then recycled them into this story.
The book about what Martha does in the time gap between this and the next episode is amazing. I know you are way ahead by the time you read these comments but I would really recommend reading it at some point.
Re the helicarrier... back when this was first broadcast, it seemed to have obviously been influenced by the 1960s TV show Captain Scarlet - in that the heroic Captain (who always came back to life whenever he was killed!) operated from the floating aircraft carrier Spectrum Cloudbase...
...so nice to have a fellow Spectrum fan here. Spectrum is Green. The VALIANT is UNIT's Cloudbase. SHIELD has a lot of helicarriers. Spectrum has just the one.
The field the TARDIS emits to make itself unnoticed shows up as technology in one of Douglas Adams' books (He wrote & edited early Doctor Who shows (4th Doctor Era) and wrote 'The Hitch-Hikers' Guide to The Galaxy'); he refers to it as an SEP field, SEP standing for 'Someone Else's Problem'.
I love that phone call so much. The way the master is genuinely shocked and manages to be serious for a moment but has to barb the doctor anyway. The fact he earnestly says he ran because he was scared and with how the time wars described who wouldn't be. It's interesting to parralel their actions with the time war as a man who doesn't like fighting and a man who you'd think would revel in it both going in opposite directions. the way the doctor is pleading breaks your heart as well.
Just the look on The Doctor's face when The Master says "I saw it." says it all. Whatever "it" was, it was a horror beyond even Time Lord comprehension.
@chaospoet yes I truly love the fact it's clear their was eldritch stuff going on the show will never be able to depict. Just the description of these waves of paradoxes and time scarred beings. Worlds that never existed deaths being undone and on and on.
The Master can still have those drums in his head even when he regenerates because he's still the same Time Lord with the same memories just different body and personality but the same evil schemes.
29:28 I think the reason why the master decided to be the UK Prime Minister is just down to the fact that it is the doctors favourite place in the entire world and he decided to rule over it. I think subconsciously it’s more of an attack on the doctor.
I’ve always found it odd how Russell t Davies has denied there being any three part stories in his run, despite the fact episodes 11,12 and 13 are a continuous story. I read in a doctor who magazine years ago that he considers utopia to be its own separate story.
I'm pretty sure RTD just opens his mouth and let's his belly rumble when it comes to interviews 😂 and he definitely likes to troll fans with blatant lies right up till they're proven lies then he just makes up something new 😂
I actually agree with RTD here. The central plot of Utopia (end of the universe, save the human race) wraps up pretty nicely, and though it sets up the two parter I think it's more accurately described as a prelude than part of the finale.
The Toclafane... 😭 They are, to me, far scarier than the Daleks. Once you know who they are, and their back story... They're truly the stuff of nightmares. I love Voodoo Child, and I love the next song. This episode was fantastic. I love this Master. That energy, that cute but crazed grin... Aside from the actual crazy, he's very much like Tennant's Doctor. In the last episode, as soon as I saw Professor Yana, I started tapping (dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun...) without realising it at first. So well done.
16:34 In the original script for the Third Doctor's final story, the Master was supposed to be his brother, but due to Roger Delgado's unfortunate untimely death that story got rewritten. This is a jab at that.
Congratulations on your wedding! I'm loving going with you on this journey (though I've taken it many many times). It just keeps getting better and better. It takes some detours, but always for the better IMHO. (Not everyone agrees. I can't wait to see if you do!) Thanks for another great reaction.
Very Avengers and over 5 years before they got a cinematic appearance of their aircraft carrier. (I believe in the comics it existed over 50 years ago, but i could be very wrong.)
The Avenger's helicarrier was cool. in an older film - david hasselhoff's 'Nick Fury: Agent of Shied' had a very cheap looking Helicarrier. - this one looks a lot more like a nod to the 'Captain Scarlet' one :)
27:41 As you may have noticed, the Season Enders involve "THE BIG BAD". The Master was the signature villain of The Third Doctor. He was the main villain in every story in Season 9 and kept popping back after that. His plans were to cause mayhem, kill The Doctor or control parts of the galaxy to eventually control the rest. He started in Classic Who as being on his last Life, so stories with the Fourth Doctor iand later ncluded schemes to get a ful new life or set of regenerations, Counting the movie "Harold Saxon" is the 19th Incarnation of The Master.
That is like the major theme of Doctor Who. The Doctor ran away and he continues to run. No matter the season, the Doctor or classic Who or new Who the Doctor ran away.
The leader of the party that holds enough seats for a clear majority becomes Prime Minister, usually by teatime the day after the General Election, or if appointed leader of the ruling party between elections. We don't do transition of power the same way or have the suffix "elect".
Funny Classic Who Fact: The 7th Doctors companion Ace always called him "Professor" or "The Professor". Roger Delgado, who played the first incarnation of The Master, sadly died while on holiday before he was meant to return for what was going to be the very last appearence of The Master, when it would be revealed at the end that he was, in fact, The Doctors brother. This obviously never happened, the story was replaced as a mark of respect to Roger Delgado and The Master would not appear again till the episode after Sarah-Jane left the show in The Deadly Assassin. After Anthony Ainley joined the show and became the actor who would play the role from the end of Tom Bakers era until the show disappeared in 1989, in one particular Peter Davidson story, The Master is about the be "apparently" destroyed, when he yells out to The Doctor "How could you do this to your own..." and vanishes. Russell including the "secret brother" line was basically him showing his dislike of the whole "brother" thing and in my opinion, making sure it never happens
Fun fact: "Mister Saxon" is an anagram of "Master No. Six" - indicating John Simm's Master as the sixth overall incarnation of the character seen on screen. Prior to Derek Jacobi (as fleeting as it was, Professor Yana counts and Jacobi has reprised the role for audio stories) and Simm, last time the Master was seen, he was played by Eric Roberts in the 1998 TV Movie alongside Paul McGann's 8th Doctor. That movie was supposed to be a pilot for a new series that didn't happen back then.
For the US market we would get a full series of Doctor Who episodes that would include the Holiday special. Closer to a DvD box set than weekly episodes. So a three parter wasn't spread out like in the UK.
For those of us who grew up on Doctor Who, the Master reveal had a lot more meaning. He's been a recurring nasty for a very long time. Well over 50 years. He took the UK because he knows that's where the Doctor always returns to
the masters wife reads to me like both the masters version of a companion, and a mirror to how real life psychopaths will try to pull women into their orbit. often for less whimsical reasons than the master though.
16:35 so this was actually a plot line they were going to do within the 70s but they thought it was too much like a soap opera so they took it out - I don’t believe it is too much of a spoiler to say that the master was in some classic stories. In fact, I think the context actually helps, but if anyone has issues with this, I’ll delete it xx
I believe Jack is in love with The Doctor ... hard to say with Jack - he certainly flirts with anyone good looking, gender doesn't matter, species [well, sentient species] doesn't matter.... but I think there was an indication that he was actually in love with the Doctor.
I may have mentioned this before. But this episode embodies so much of what the mid 2000s did right. Mentioning Big Ben, because it happened and it was important. Other instances of aliens. "Wait, if Jack is in trouble, wouldn't he call in Torchwood?" "Ah who cares about logic or continuity?" *Lazy writing* "Wait, if Jack is in trouble, wouldn't he call in Torchwood?" "Good point. We'll mention it." *Smart writing*
When they brought back the series, they had trouble getting the rights to use the daleks from the terry nation residence. Due to this they created the Toclothane (might have butchered the name oops 😬) as seen they got the rights to the daleks and the Toclothane were used here.
“And I looked down upon my dominion and I thought it good” how very biblical of The Master Context: in the bible after God created each thing it states that he thought it was good.
21:17 Depending on your perspective It could be "How very Valiant" of you. The SHIELD helicarrier first appeared in Marvl Comics in the 1960's diring "The Spy Craze", but It was not on film until 2012. The Valiant appeared in Doctor Who in 2007-2008.
Q: "But where are you going for now?" A: Read "The Story of Martha" by Dan Abnett. It's a good adventure novel about what happens between this episode and the Season Three finale. #DoctorWho #MarthaJones #TheStoryofMartha
I'll call out two moments to summarise the Master in brief: The first actually comes from the previous episode, when Chan'Tho pulled a gun on him, he said "Ohh... now I can say I was provoked!" Meaning he was fully planning on murdering Chan'Tho from the moment he saw her, and was simply pleased to have an excuse. The second is the scene in this episode where he kills the other politicians with a thumbs up after explaining to them what funny looks like. There are a lot of complexities behind why The Master is how he is and does what he does, but the most basic reason? It's fun!
If you want to see more Gallifrey and ever feel like a classic Who detour, I'd recommend "The Five Doctors", the 20th anniversary special with the first 5 Doctors, the Master, and a sampler of classic Who allies and villains, set mostly on Gallifrey. It isn't peak Who, but back in the day, PBS would use it during pledge drives as a starter episode for newcomers and a fan favorite.
"It's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist" I wonder if I was the guy that didn't know anybody exists. Or if nobody fancied me lol
Ahhh, what a treat! ❤ I think most of my comments will come after next one though... But Gallifrey though!! And the Master, both my favourite villain, and Doctor/Master my favourite (toxic) ship. They're so ridiculous about each other, so alike and so different.
The explanation is coming... but yeah. It is confusing at this point. The Doctor with sonic at the end of the last episode, locked the TARDIS time circuits... The Master could only move to roughly the same time as The Doc came from... so he went back as far as he could and grabbed as much power as he could.
3:07 Katarina, Died opening an airlock. Sara Kingdom; Rapidly aged to death. Adric, Cybermen. Kamelion, Mercy Killed. K9, Blown up. There was also a point where 5th and 6th Doctor companion Peri was killed off because she got separated from The Doctor and an insane alien cut out her brain and inserted its own. That timeline was aborted the next episode though, as the production team were uncomfortable leaving the character dead like that. So she’s still alive, married to Brian Blessed I think.
It's funny you mentioned the Daleks actually comparing to the Toclafance because when showrunner Russell T. Davies brought the show back in 2005 his original intention was to have the Toclafane as the new Daleks incase he didn't get the approval from the Terry Nation esate to use the Daleks thankfully that didn't happen because i don't think the new series of "Dr. Who" wouldn't had been as successful without the Daleks.
The Decimate line was a joke about how people commonly misuse the word, but he uses it more correctly in killing off ten percent as a punishment. Deci meaning ten. It's funnier in metric.
It's a great joke.
@@David-cg1lh I give it a 9/10
@Sairin13 ba dum tsh
@@Sairin13 I would say more like 1/10!
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Technically, the current use of the word is now correct as well, according to the dictionaries. But yes the original word came from the practice of decimation, where a tenth of a Roman military unit would be put to death as punishment
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"He's entertaining, I'll give him that."
Yes, that is a defining characteristic of The Master. In all of his incarnations, he's quite flamboyant and incredibly fun to watch. You really, really want to like him, even when The Master is committing horrors. John Simms is an incredibly good choice to play The Master.
I still like his serious stint. Or the gender bent. Or heck evnd the one from Jodies run, I thought they were all great.
@@soulstealer5625 🙄 Spoilers.
29:53 In classic Who, the Master always wore a goatee beard. In this episode, he doesn’t have a beard, but he has a wife
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It's called a Vandyke beard.
But yeah, the beard joke was always a good one.
ah Time Crash. A Moffat classic.
Before John Simm, five other actors have played The Master: Roger Delgado, Peter Pratt, Anthony Ainley, Eric Roberts, and Derek Jacobi. "Mister Saxon" is an anagram of "Master No. Six".
Ehy never thought of it!
Still consider the OG as the definer of the role. Sure Mister Saxon is not an anagram for Master In Sox? JK. Cheers....
Anthony Ainley's first appearance in the role was in the 4th Doctor story "The Keeper of Traken". He played a character called Tremas before being revealed as The Master. Tremas is an anagram of Master.
This is Geoffrey Beevers erasure, and I won't stand for it.
Seriously though, Beevers played the Master immediately before Ainley, in "The Keeper of Traken."
Basically THE main antagonist in Doctor Who, yes.
And Jip played him pretty well, a bit cringe, but overall true to the character. I say "Jip" because to me, John Simm is "Jip" from the film "Human Traffic". I saw that one first. 😅
That's also why that one black pilot from the Ood two-parter from series 2 will always be "Coop". 🥹🤭
The Master became Prime Minister for access to all the resources that come with the job (money, power, a military and civilian workforce at his command, etc.).
After the downfall of Harriet Jones, he would also have access to Secret Projects and whatever alien tech that UNIT would have too.
He also knows how important the Earth is to the Doctor. It is, after all, defended.
@@johnniequinn3215 oh yeah, one cannot understate how important UNIT is to own. A military force with the tech, manpower and experience to treat a Dark or Cyberman invasion as a lazy afternoon, with the foresight (iirc) to recognise Torchwood as dangerous enough to have full mobilisation when they brough cybermen over. Just having them puts the Master centuries ahead of even the US in terms of firepower. Of note also, while UNIT has branches in other countries, the hierarchy still goes back to Britain... On the other hand, pretty damn sure they were probably at least prepped to encounter shit considering there's no way they aren't aware that's the master, he's kind of their most wanted by default.
@rexex345 I don't disagree, but do you remember when Eccleston-Doctor erased all memories of himself from the Internet? A lot of collected knowledge about his enemies may have disappeared along the way.
@@johnniequinn3215 Ah, but don't forget, UNIT are affiliated with him, he's quite literally their Head Science director... Even if he's been quite absent as of late. They probably keep backups of everything about him.
The Master is targeting Earth because his greatest enemy, the Doctor, loves it. Jack waited for the Doctor for more than 100 years, the comment "you too?" was definitely referring to himself. And I never thought about it before, but a perception filter would be so so handy to have as a woman!
The master is obsessed with the doctor. He couldn't have gone anywhere else if he wanted to
The master is trapped there so he mad himself one of the most powerful people with a work force to enslave. Also as you can tell he is one for theatrics. And the doctor is 100% the runaway type. Its his whole thing, never staying in one place but a rebel type.
Those keys that make you "unnoticeable". I'm betting they got that from Douglas Adams. (Who wrote for Doctor Who in the old days.) In the Hitchhiker books they have something very similar; the "somebody else's problem field". You're not invisible. People just ignore you because you're somebody else's problem. 🤣
Ah the S.E.P. field!
To be fair, this is also the series with all the Harry Potter references...so it might also be inspired by Diagon Alley.
The Master is a Dark Mirror of the Doctor. Lucy Saxon is his Dark Mirror companion.
Yeah it was a great choice to have him ape that aspect of the doctor.
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I just rewatched the 1996 movie and he kind of does it with The Asian fella has him go around and do stuff. Ofcourse he snaps his neck when he disobey him but I think he would have kept him as a pet for a bit if he'd followed orders.
The funny thing is that The Master never had a companion, he only allies with races.
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@Sensum-Auxilium And...RTD never understand Doctor Who.
John Simm does a great job acting. He was good in the series Life on Mars.
loved that one...
he even mentioned his "visit" to the doctor in it once...
much better than the american copy of it...
@@Metzwerg74 Agree. I also prefer the UK version. I also enjoyed the series Ashes to Ashes. In one episode of Ashes DCI Hunt auditions for Doctor Who
Congrats on the wedding!
The paradox has already happened. The way everyone can remember Saxons history when he has only been around for 18 months is the paradox.
@MINKIN2 That's not what the paradox is. Have you even watched the episode? 😂
no it's not, that was just part of the hypnosis and media manipulation. the âradox is bringing the SPOILERS to the past because they are the SPOILER and killing humans creates the paradox
That isn't the paradox. The paradox is revealed in the next episode as a big twist. I won't say what it is as it would be a huge spoiler.
The line about the Master & Doctor being secretly brothers is a deep pull from Classic. The original Master Roger Delgado was originally supposed to be revealed as the 3rd Doctor's half brother in a series climax but Delgado was killed in a traffic accident so their family relationship never was filmed or canon. Never the less the fando O m has speculated endlessly.
So many classic Master references in this. I particularly love him watching the teletubbies, like how he watched the Clangers all the way back in 1972.
Glad you singled out the Doctor's "it's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist" moment. Such wonderful acting by Agyeman. You just see her face fall without a word spoken. And then that knowing look from Barrowman. Can't wait until you watch the next episode, where she truly shines!
Prime ministers basically hold all the power in the uk. Also the doctor made it so that the tardis couldn’t go any further back in time, basically locking it in place
The Doctor never uses the Tardis to fix problems anyway.
I assumed the Master got married to fit the image of a politician with a supportive wife. He called the Cabinet members traitors because they abandoned their parties to support him. He presumably ran for Parliament as an independent, then gained support from other MPs, with the help of the Archangel network, and created a new party around himself.
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I think it's also because he likes the idea of mocking the Doctor by taking a human girl as a companion.
Grits are made from a coarse ground meal consisting of dent corn, boiled to soften, and often served as a breakfast side dish and flavored with butter. And Now You Know 🌈
Mad that the Doctor bringing Harriet Jones’s downfall led directly to Saxon being able to grab power
They intentionally made this version of the Master to be almost like a mirror image of the Doctor: cracking jokes, acting like an ass, but also dangerous. The previous incarnations weren’t like this at all
The first Master was the opposite of the third Doctor. Russell T. David liked that original idea and so his new Master was the opposite of the 10th
The song 'Voodoo Child' from this episode always haunts me. Here come the drums. here come the drums.
Happy New Year and Congratulations ! The spheres are something sadder than Daleks, and the worse is yet to come.
26:14 yes, the literal meaning of the word "decimate" is to remove/kiII one tenth of something, ie the decimal system. Erosion of language (or evolution, depending on how you choose to perceive it) has led people to equate decimate with annihilate.
The way the UK elections work is that the Prime Minister will call a general election for a soon to be upcoming date. All of Parliament then dissolves after that and its then weeks of campaigning etc. Once the country has voted, whatever party has the most seats up to a certain number, that party leader becomes prime minister. If there's a hung parliament, where no party has enough seats to control power, another party can work with another to reach the amount required. The one with the most seats still becomes prime minister, and they become prime minister that very day after conversing with the king/queen.
... I think anyway. You'd think I'd know being a Brit myself 😂
Spot on
The only thing to add, the king/queen meets the PM once every week to discuss what's a happening and can in theory advise the PM on what the rest of the world might think - given all their royal tours and meetings with world leaders the monarchy can devote a lot more time to understanding the international mood than the PM of the day
That said if the PM refuses advice that us their progrative and the monarchy will accept the final decision
The monarch's only other real power Is that should we ever have a pm who is caught doing something bad like drug smuggling or sex criming then the monarchy has the authority to dismiss the PM on grounds of "embarrassment" stupid term but it Is the legal terminology
Most Brits are currently sitting at home wishing the last PM hadn't dissolved parliament and called a General Election. 🫣😖
@tombo1984 I think most Brits are actually relatively happy with how things are going compared to the last government...
Plus, a general election was meant to happen by now anyway.
@@Kranitoko Labour's 25% approval ratings and Starmer's 60% negative approval since the last polling was done would tend to say otherwise.
Who'd have thought taking people's heating away, forcing elderly farmers and into suicide and tanking the economy would be taken negatively. Well by most anyway. Apparently you have no problem with that.
@@tombo1984 so they took the heating imbursement away from people who severely didn't need it because they could already afford it... They literally had people on the radio going "yeah but I was saving that money for a holiday" and other people saying they used it for things not heat related. The money was still there for the people who genuinely couldn't afford it. So yknow, there's that. You forgot that part.
In the novels, it goes into detail about the Doctor's and Master's origin. Both are from the Great Houses: Lungbarrow and Oakdown respectively.
I loved the Lungbarrow book it was so cool
This is *such* a deep cut lol.
The Master has a history with the Brits, that position is hin basically saying "I win and you, who kept fighting me, let me win and do this to you". That's how I always felt
You need to watch the Roger Delgado stories.
I think you'd love Life on Mars (and its sequel Ashes to Ashes). John Simm plays the main character, whose surname was inspired by Rose Tyler.
Highly recommend BBC version of Life On Mars. It is a masterpiece!
Brilliant show
"The Sound of Drums" is also used in the lyric from the song "Voodoo Child" sung by the australian band "The Rogue Traders" which was a huge hit here in australia back in 2005.
Interesting behind-the-scenes trivia on the Toclafane: Russell T. Davies originally thought them up just in case he wasn't allowed to use the Daleks in the new Doctor Who, then recycled them into this story.
The book about what Martha does in the time gap between this and the next episode is amazing. I know you are way ahead by the time you read these comments but I would really recommend reading it at some point.
Re the helicarrier... back when this was first broadcast, it seemed to have obviously been influenced by the 1960s TV show Captain Scarlet - in that the heroic Captain (who always came back to life whenever he was killed!) operated from the floating aircraft carrier Spectrum Cloudbase...
That's actually mentioned in a Peter Capaldi episode!
...so nice to have a fellow Spectrum fan here. Spectrum is Green. The VALIANT is UNIT's Cloudbase. SHIELD has a lot of helicarriers. Spectrum has just the one.
@@doktor_ghul Boom boom boom, boom boom ba-BOOM!
The field the TARDIS emits to make itself unnoticed shows up as technology in one of Douglas Adams' books (He wrote & edited early Doctor Who shows (4th Doctor Era) and wrote 'The Hitch-Hikers' Guide to The Galaxy'); he refers to it as an SEP field, SEP standing for 'Someone Else's Problem'.
Magpie electronics going strong sold soo many tvs and gobbled up(huuuungrry) the market I'm sure 😂😂
If I had a Time Machine I’d defo be investing in Magpie never seen a business ride out so many end of day scenarios and still go strong 😂
I love that phone call so much. The way the master is genuinely shocked and manages to be serious for a moment but has to barb the doctor anyway.
The fact he earnestly says he ran because he was scared and with how the time wars described who wouldn't be.
It's interesting to parralel their actions with the time war as a man who doesn't like fighting and a man who you'd think would revel in it both going in opposite directions.
the way the doctor is pleading breaks your heart as well.
Just the look on The Doctor's face when The Master says "I saw it." says it all. Whatever "it" was, it was a horror beyond even Time Lord comprehension.
@chaospoet yes I truly love the fact it's clear their was eldritch stuff going on the show will never be able to depict. Just the description of these waves of paradoxes and time scarred beings. Worlds that never existed deaths being undone and on and on.
The Master can still have those drums in his head even when he regenerates because he's still the same Time Lord with the same memories just different body and personality but the same evil schemes.
29:28 I think the reason why the master decided to be the UK Prime Minister is just down to the fact that it is the doctors favourite place in the entire world and he decided to rule over it. I think subconsciously it’s more of an attack on the doctor.
This episode will always be heart breaking to me. I watched it the day the episode came out and 8 year old me was destroyed
I’ve always found it odd how Russell t Davies has denied there being any three part stories in his run, despite the fact episodes 11,12 and 13 are a continuous story. I read in a doctor who magazine years ago that he considers utopia to be its own separate story.
I'm pretty sure RTD just opens his mouth and let's his belly rumble when it comes to interviews 😂 and he definitely likes to troll fans with blatant lies right up till they're proven lies then he just makes up something new 😂
He is a fan of just lying in interviews. I do technically see where's he's coming from with utopia as well but it's a bit pedantic
@@David-cg1lhI don’t see it at all for utopia, as the entire story is the set up for this one
@@obiwankenobi687 sure but writers are fussier with that stuff technically the whole season sets it up. I agree it's a three parter for the record.
I actually agree with RTD here. The central plot of Utopia (end of the universe, save the human race) wraps up pretty nicely, and though it sets up the two parter I think it's more accurately described as a prelude than part of the finale.
HOLY SHIT YOURE ALREADY RELEASING THE EPISODES! Next one I CANNOT wait for you to see
This was filmed in 2006. The Avengers came out in 2012. Therefore, the Avengers having a helicarrier is very Doctor Whoish, not the other way around.
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Yeah. Keep that in mind for later.
Head of Marvel was taking notes from Doctor Who.
Tardis landed back in London, so Saxon decided to start his plans there.
The Toclafane... 😭 They are, to me, far scarier than the Daleks. Once you know who they are, and their back story... They're truly the stuff of nightmares.
I love Voodoo Child, and I love the next song. This episode was fantastic. I love this Master. That energy, that cute but crazed grin... Aside from the actual crazy, he's very much like Tennant's Doctor. In the last episode, as soon as I saw Professor Yana, I started tapping (dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun... dun dun dun dun...) without realising it at first. So well done.
The laugh 😮
Xander does it AGAIN!!!! 🤜💥
16:34 In the original script for the Third Doctor's final story, the Master was supposed to be his brother, but due to Roger Delgado's unfortunate untimely death that story got rewritten. This is a jab at that.
Congratulations on your wedding! I'm loving going with you on this journey (though I've taken it many many times). It just keeps getting better and better. It takes some detours, but always for the better IMHO. (Not everyone agrees. I can't wait to see if you do!) Thanks for another great reaction.
Very Avengers and over 5 years before they got a cinematic appearance of their aircraft carrier. (I believe in the comics it existed over 50 years ago, but i could be very wrong.)
Also, unless I'm forgetting something, this episode did the rip/portal in the sky that unleashes bad things first.
The Avenger's helicarrier was cool.
in an older film - david hasselhoff's 'Nick Fury: Agent of Shied' had a very cheap looking Helicarrier.
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this one looks a lot more like a nod to the 'Captain Scarlet' one :)
When your scratching your head wondering how so many people voted somebody in... Maybe psychic satalites are the answer
Its not like one controversial guy's close supporter launched a bunch of satellites all over the world lately... hmmm... wait a second...
Or social media.
Don't want to bring politics into the comments here, but I'm just glad it seems Angie isn't a fan of the upcoming, guy.
27:41 As you may have noticed, the Season Enders involve "THE BIG BAD". The Master was the signature villain of The Third Doctor. He was the main villain in every story in Season 9 and kept popping back after that. His plans were to cause mayhem, kill The Doctor or control parts of the galaxy to eventually control the rest. He started in Classic Who as being on his last Life, so stories with the Fourth Doctor iand later ncluded schemes to get a ful new life or set of regenerations, Counting the movie "Harold Saxon" is the 19th Incarnation of The Master.
P.S. When you start watching #ClassicWho, you'll see that The Master often craves (official) authority roles.
The drum beat is from the Doctor Who theme.
The master: evil and cruel, but also charismatic as all hell and entertainingly insane.
Their relationship is complex friend/flirty friend/ enemy 😆
That is like the major theme of Doctor Who. The Doctor ran away and he continues to run. No matter the season, the Doctor or classic Who or new Who the Doctor ran away.
The leader of the party that holds enough seats for a clear majority becomes Prime Minister, usually by teatime the day after the General Election, or if appointed leader of the ruling party between elections. We don't do transition of power the same way or have the suffix "elect".
22:28 true, but this is what the Paradox Machine does, it stabilize the paradox.
A paradox is when the Doctor meets himself, because then you have a pair of Doc's 😛
Love the Master seeming to think the teletubbies are real, its a fun little callback to a classic who gag
You can really tell that John Simm had an absolute *blast* being The Master
“What is Martha doing?” She’s living to fight another day…
My electric door lock makes the drums sound when there is an error. I was freaked out the first time it happened.
When Sharon says "he can take my box any day" - well, let's just say that British English has a slang word for a certain female body part.
“Well now I have to watch the next episode “😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
00:26 Best freeze frame! 😂😂😂
I used to get in trouble all the time at school for making faces… I’m so happy you appreciate it lol
the drumming, the never-ending drums, can you hear them!!
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Funny Classic Who Fact: The 7th Doctors companion Ace always called him "Professor" or "The Professor". Roger Delgado, who played the first incarnation of The Master, sadly died while on holiday before he was meant to return for what was going to be the very last appearence of The Master, when it would be revealed at the end that he was, in fact, The Doctors brother. This obviously never happened, the story was replaced as a mark of respect to Roger Delgado and The Master would not appear again till the episode after Sarah-Jane left the show in The Deadly Assassin. After Anthony Ainley joined the show and became the actor who would play the role from the end of Tom Bakers era until the show disappeared in 1989, in one particular Peter Davidson story, The Master is about the be "apparently" destroyed, when he yells out to The Doctor "How could you do this to your own..." and vanishes. Russell including the "secret brother" line was basically him showing his dislike of the whole "brother" thing and in my opinion, making sure it never happens
Fun fact:
"Mister Saxon" is an anagram of "Master No. Six" - indicating John Simm's Master as the sixth overall incarnation of the character seen on screen. Prior to Derek Jacobi (as fleeting as it was, Professor Yana counts and Jacobi has reprised the role for audio stories) and Simm, last time the Master was seen, he was played by Eric Roberts in the 1998 TV Movie alongside Paul McGann's 8th Doctor.
That movie was supposed to be a pilot for a new series that didn't happen back then.
For the US market we would get a full series of Doctor Who episodes that would include the Holiday special. Closer to a DvD box set than weekly episodes. So a three parter wasn't spread out like in the UK.
'What's up with him having a wife?'
Well, the Doctor has a companion, maybe the Master wanted to try that for himself.
He became Prime Minister because the Doctor loves Earth
"We've flown them in. All the way from prison!"
0:27 average 7th Doctor enjoyer
"It was good" is a biblical reference, concerning the creation, he is saying he is god.
For those of us who grew up on Doctor Who, the Master reveal had a lot more meaning. He's been a recurring nasty for a very long time. Well over 50 years.
He took the UK because he knows that's where the Doctor always returns to
I always wanted John Simm as a doctor but he made such a good Master.
The Master went after Earth purely to hurt The Doctor, who has put so much work into defending it. No other real reason.
the masters wife reads to me like both the masters version of a companion, and a mirror to how real life psychopaths will try to pull women into their orbit. often for less whimsical reasons than the master though.
27:16 I love this line it sounds like he actually sees himself as a god lol like he uses the same language within the Bible
16:35 so this was actually a plot line they were going to do within the 70s but they thought it was too much like a soap opera so they took it out - I don’t believe it is too much of a spoiler to say that the master was in some classic stories. In fact, I think the context actually helps, but if anyone has issues with this, I’ll delete it xx
I believe Jack is in love with The Doctor ... hard to say with Jack - he certainly flirts with anyone good looking, gender doesn't matter, species [well, sentient species] doesn't matter.... but I think there was an indication that he was actually in love with the Doctor.
I hope he doesn't get his todger out.
I may have mentioned this before.
But this episode embodies so much of what the mid 2000s did right.
Mentioning Big Ben, because it happened and it was important. Other instances of aliens.
"Wait, if Jack is in trouble, wouldn't he call in Torchwood?" "Ah who cares about logic or continuity?" *Lazy writing*
"Wait, if Jack is in trouble, wouldn't he call in Torchwood?" "Good point. We'll mention it." *Smart writing*
I consider the Master as the "Loki" of the Doctor Who Universe... 😂
When they brought back the series, they had trouble getting the rights to use the daleks from the terry nation residence. Due to this they created the Toclothane (might have butchered the name oops 😬) as seen they got the rights to the daleks and the Toclothane were used here.
Sometimes you just need a good villain, and The Master has been one of the best throughout the series.
Aren't you glad The Doctor is on our side, now? 😊
Doctor Who was traditionally a kids show. So Torchwood was never allowed to appear on the show bc it is very very very very adult 😂.
All the information on Gallifrey is all in Classic Who.
“And I looked down upon my dominion and I thought it good” how very biblical of The Master
Context: in the bible after God created each thing it states that he thought it was good.
21:17 Depending on your perspective It could be "How very Valiant" of you. The SHIELD helicarrier first appeared in Marvl Comics in the 1960's diring "The Spy Craze", but It was not on film until 2012. The Valiant appeared in Doctor Who in 2007-2008.
This'll blow your mind. During the Lazarus project, the Tardis was in the ship above the Tardis.
Q: "But where are you going for now?"
A: Read "The Story of Martha" by Dan Abnett. It's a good adventure novel about what happens between this episode and the Season Three finale. #DoctorWho #MarthaJones #TheStoryofMartha
The STORY of Martha. Just correcting for anyone who wants to find it.
@@alwillcox TY!!! CORRECTED!!!!
I'll call out two moments to summarise the Master in brief:
The first actually comes from the previous episode, when Chan'Tho pulled a gun on him, he said "Ohh... now I can say I was provoked!" Meaning he was fully planning on murdering Chan'Tho from the moment he saw her, and was simply pleased to have an excuse.
The second is the scene in this episode where he kills the other politicians with a thumbs up after explaining to them what funny looks like. There are a lot of complexities behind why The Master is how he is and does what he does, but the most basic reason? It's fun!
The Master is doing this just to stick it to The Doctor he knows how much he loves humans they're like Batman and The Joker
If you want to see more Gallifrey and ever feel like a classic Who detour, I'd recommend "The Five Doctors", the 20th anniversary special with the first 5 Doctors, the Master, and a sampler of classic Who allies and villains, set mostly on Gallifrey. It isn't peak Who, but back in the day, PBS would use it during pledge drives as a starter episode for newcomers and a fan favorite.
"It's like when you fancy someone and they don't know you exist"
I wonder if I was the guy that didn't know anybody exists. Or if nobody fancied me lol
Ahhh, what a treat! ❤ I think most of my comments will come after next one though...
But Gallifrey though!! And the Master, both my favourite villain, and Doctor/Master my favourite (toxic) ship. They're so ridiculous about each other, so alike and so different.
The explanation is coming... but yeah. It is confusing at this point.
The Doctor with sonic at the end of the last episode, locked the TARDIS time circuits... The Master could only move to roughly the same time as The Doc came from... so he went back as far as he could and grabbed as much power as he could.
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Katarina, Died opening an airlock.
Sara Kingdom; Rapidly aged to death.
Adric, Cybermen.
Kamelion, Mercy Killed.
K9, Blown up.
There was also a point where 5th and 6th Doctor companion Peri was killed off because she got separated from The Doctor and an insane alien cut out her brain and inserted its own.
That timeline was aborted the next episode though, as the production team were uncomfortable leaving the character dead like that. So she’s still alive, married to Brian Blessed I think.
It's funny you mentioned the Daleks actually comparing to the Toclafance because when showrunner Russell T. Davies brought the show back in 2005 his original intention was to have the Toclafane as the new Daleks incase he didn't get the approval from the Terry Nation esate to use the Daleks thankfully that didn't happen because i don't think the new series of "Dr. Who" wouldn't had been as successful without the Daleks.
This came out well before The Avengers though they had helicarriers in the Marvel Comics decades before.