I was surprised to see how people here are in the same boat as me by finding this a bit boring. Judi Dench is great but much better in Ibsens “Ghosts.” It’s also available here on YT. Maybe Chekhov isn’t for me.
The Russian soul is so morose. All those years of serfdom? Must be because fate is such a burden and there is nothing to be done. No wonder Putin is in power.
That is what was the market in Russia. Masybe if those that literature appealled to were not after that type then others would have come forth. And remember that many of the well known writers came from a group that did not necessarily have to rely on cheerful lit 2 make a living. Or maybe all that vodka and French champaigne deadened the spirit so to say?
old post but still relevant. One thing to consider is that in the USA slavery and that form of Antebellum society only existed in a few places and it wreaked havoc on our country and is still impacting culture today. In Imperial Russia the ENTIRE SOCIETY was based on slavery and landowners and was done away with all at once. Centuries of neglect of the serfs and decadence of the landowners didn't just go away... Alot of 20th century Russian history is blamed on socialism, some of it rightly so, but it was far more complex as Americans and Brits who went to live in the USSR in that timeframe found out. The revolution, and purges, were only partly about socialism.
Umm .... Guys? Chekhov meant this to be a comedy. In fact, the first performance of it, people laughed and laughed. It was meant to be a PARODY of the aristocrats. Subsequent directors during Chekhov's time changed the tone of the play to a tragic feel, MUCH to his great irritation, as he wanted the ex serf to be the hero of the play, not the villain, and Judy Dench's character a self absorbed, spoiled, selfish, debauched person. This iteration of the play is in that "tragic" tradition, which is why it feels "morose". Imagine, if you will, this being set in the post Civil War South, with the serf as a black former slave, and Judy Dench's character the daughter of the former slaveholder. The play would have a VERY different sense to it, and the subtle social relationships would become much clearer.
Maybe in your eyes. I guess you just do not have the right pheramones to be appealing? Next time I chat with her she can give her opinion of your physicalness on film?
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"The greater the number of cures you can suggest for a sickness, the more certain you can be that it's incurable".
8:55 Act Two. everything is here. beautifully played. collision, clash, near-misses.
I was surprised to see how people here are in the same boat as me by finding this a bit boring. Judi Dench is great but much better in Ibsens “Ghosts.” It’s also available here on YT.
Maybe Chekhov isn’t for me.
eres un genioo,,,tienes cosas de judi dench que son muy dificiles de conseguir,,muak.
why are they going to bed so early?
because in eastern europe it is light all day during that season
it's three in the morning, they live far in the north
LoL I totally would have asked that question had I not been to Russia in the spring/summer!
Midnight sun and they still talk of temperatures below freezing. It’s different that far north.
Chekhov basically wrote the same play over and over again. I see the appeal they are like perfectly functioning watches. But a bit samey.
OK, "going to bed" must be a metaphor....any ideas as to what? Death? Avoiding reality? It certainly is quite an effort. Lie down already!
Stunningly boring. And, with Judi Dench!
I really don’t understand anything. Don’t know the play, and British accent , NOT helping at all! ☹️
Well, I got halfway through. My God this is boring.
😂😂😂😂
I’m out.
People lived such irresponsible lives.
the seagull
To be or not to be.........
Hhhj
The Russian soul is so morose. All those years of serfdom? Must be because fate is such a burden and there is nothing to be done. No wonder Putin is in power.
That is what was the market in Russia. Masybe if those that literature appealled to were not after that type then others would have come forth. And remember that many of the well known writers came from a group that did not necessarily have to rely on cheerful lit 2 make a living. Or maybe all that vodka and French champaigne deadened the spirit so to say?
old post but still relevant.
One thing to consider is that in the USA slavery and that form of Antebellum society only existed in a few places and it wreaked havoc on our country and is still impacting culture today.
In Imperial Russia the ENTIRE SOCIETY was based on slavery and landowners and was done away with all at once. Centuries of neglect of the serfs and decadence of the landowners didn't just go away... Alot of 20th century Russian history is blamed on socialism, some of it rightly so, but it was far more complex as Americans and Brits who went to live in the USSR in that timeframe found out. The revolution, and purges, were only partly about socialism.
Umm ....
Guys? Chekhov meant this to be a comedy. In fact, the first performance of it, people laughed and laughed. It was meant to be a PARODY of the aristocrats.
Subsequent directors during Chekhov's time changed the tone of the play to a tragic feel, MUCH to his great irritation, as he wanted the ex serf to be the hero of the play, not the villain, and Judy Dench's character a self absorbed, spoiled, selfish, debauched person.
This iteration of the play is in that "tragic" tradition, which is why it feels "morose".
Imagine, if you will, this being set in the post Civil War South, with the serf as a black former slave, and Judy Dench's character the daughter of the former slaveholder. The play would have a VERY different sense to it, and the subtle social relationships would become much clearer.
@@johnmanno2052who is ex serf
Did Dench always look like an old sow.
I bet you look like an old boar.
Dench had no illusions about her looks. it's her strength as an actress. and yet she charms. her plump, silly, ordinariness.
thats dame judi dench to you sir
Maybe in your eyes. I guess you just do not have the right pheramones to be appealing? Next time I chat with her she can give her opinion of your physicalness on film?