Raimi Venom dominates Venom. Raimi Venom is stronger and atleast equal in speed to Andrew's Spiderman who could react to lightning. Raimi Spiderman should scale to that and he couldn't react to Sandman in some instances and as a result probably wouldn't be able to react to Venom (Raimi). This means that Raimi Venom can also react to lightning which means Sony Venom isn't landing a hit on him since his greatest speed feat is catching a bullet
@@goomyliaplayz7911 You forget that the spider senses are what help them dodge lightning, which don't detect venom at all which means venom doesn't need to be that fast to tag him. This is also proven by the fact that Tom Hollands spiderman can't dodge the train when a train moves signficiantly slower than electricity does and he's relativeto Raimi's Spiderman in speed. Also Venom just has superior striking force because of how far him and riot can hit eachother.
@cagegames4755 you didn't exactly get my point, Andrew and Tobey have same reaction speed which means with spider sense both can react to lightning..as such they should be able to react to The Green Goblin and Sandman but can't sometimes even with spidey sense which means their combat speed is faster than lightning. Also in the train scene he was caught off guard and his spidey senses were going haywire due to being under Mysterio's illusion, we've seen Spiderman dodge bullets casually
Yeah Sony venom slaps. I like him a lot because he reminds me of the lethal protector comic version of venom. Not the same mind you but the parallels are very hard to ignore.
Ok, then explain to me why venom with eddie was crying in pain from some metal pipes, or a church bell. That seperated them. Meanwhile it took constant screaming from shriek who knocked off a bell to seperate venom
@ the sound was not just ordinary. It was loud and it was meant to showcase his weakness. Did you not see how how Vernon reacted in venom 2 in the scanning machine? He was greatly disturbed too
@@rcc8347 Ok, let me give you something. Sony venom is said to be lethally injured by 4000-6000 hertz. Spiderman venom was seperated and roaring in pain from 73-1000 hertz(I am using the bell scene as there was no way the pipes were as loud as that) Sony venom is way tougher with his symbiote to his weaknesses and just in general.
@@nycprtybuai This whole argument is useless because they aren't going to use each others same weaknesses against them like venom isn't going to start making noise to the other venom considering that they both hate noise or heat
The sony venom easily win. He literally went up against riot who are a much skilled fighter and fight carnage as well. MCU venom wins and it’s not even close. Spider-Man venom doesn’t really have that much feat
@@ashersikander6379he was alive the whole night and had a lot of "powering up" by eating people to add more to his power. Riot also had way more experience.
venom isnt frikin stronger than both of them he won against riot bc riot was in the rocket so it was venom chance,also carnage WOULD have won if it wasnt for that screaming ahh girl.@william3100
PS5 literally has no weakness to fire and beat Kraven who beat Spider-Man. Proceeded to grow wings and even hold his own against Miles and Peter in anti venom suit. Its nowhere near close, Insomniac Venom negs Sony Venom lol
The problem with this arguement is a big one… It is TIME! Let me explain. The “Spider-Venom” as I’ll call it here, did not have the time to bond completely with either Peter or Eddie. Peter only kept the suit for 2 weeks at most, and Eddie only had the symbiote for a similar amount of time. As it was explained in Spider-Man 3 by Doctor Connor, the symbiote needed to to completely bond with its host. Now, he doesn’t go into detail, so we don’t know if that is just how is is in that universe, or if that’s because the hosts were unwilling. However, it makes a big difference. The later “Slate-Venom” called because he is pretty much a clean slate, having not absorbed or copied any super-abilities; got into his first “real” fight after MONTHS of being bonded with Eddie. Also, when you look back on the Venom 1st movie, they do remove Venom easily from Eddie’s body using low frequency sound waves. Venom also clearly states he is weak to fire, but only has one chance to showcase that(which was a lost opportunity). This shows that the two can not be compared properly like this, as time is a CRUCIAL factor in symbiote bonding.
The one that fought Spider-Man out scales, but that doesn’t really matter in this fight because The other venom has more abilities, a better durability, a better endurance, better IQ and a better healing factor
I'd say that venom(2018 onwards) would win this one. Their sizes are relatively similar, however venom just has a lot more abilities with his tendrils. Venoms overall strength and agility are also much higher than the lizard's, and while both do sport impressive healing factors, and the lizard's skin is very durable, venom would be able to overpower him pretty quickly
I was literally watching a video about these Characters. But, a video about 2008 verson Venom. I don't know about y'all, but in my opinion. I think the 2008 version of Venom is well played & the best "scariest" version of Venom we've gotten so far.
@@ssppeeaarrwithout Spider-Man Trilogy (2002-2007) The Amazing Spider-Man franchise, Spider-Man MCU franchise and Venom Trilogy would not be made. I don't have any favorites because they all played their own versions of the character well.
@@AKR_ice dceu flash runs faster than light while cw flash at peak might run hundreds of machs but not close to lightspeed. i like the cw flash more but he'd lose
@Speaker-Beater where does it say he runa faster than light? CW Flash has all the Feats DCEU flash has displayed like Time Travel and all that and At the end of the CW's season (idk which one I forgot) He displayed a feat against Reverse Flash being able to be so fast even He was super slow. DCEU Flash is enexperienced meanwhile CW Flash has years of experience
Spiderman 3 Venom looked like a decent budget was put into his looks, felt and behaved like a monster. He didn't say much. But screamed and fought more. He was a straight up villain and made no jokes. I loved that.
@@noahgraff-uw8rs lmao with his last suit, Tony would make a joke out of Namor. Heck around the time of the HulkBuster, Tony would already have a solid chance of beating Namor bcs unless you lived under a rock, Hulk met his match in that movie.
@@ucmanhvuong4301 maybe, but I thought namor had the strenght of hulk. hulkbuster could beat that, but the difference is namor is a lot faster, smaller and more agile, not hitting randomly and very skilled at fighting. unless tony learns about namor's weakness, I still see namor winning
The first Venom was a slap in the face for all fans of my favourite “Lethal Protector!” Current Venom is just bigger and badder than Tobey Maguire Spiderman 3’s Venom. You called it right Dan, though I think you kinda soft balled for SM3 Venom… because it looks like a honk from a passing car could disrupt him temporarily lol… I don’t know maybe he gets motion sickness lmao 🤣
Trilogy Venom stomps. Do videos on Silver Age Superman Vs Classic Adam Warlock, Superman/Superboy Prime Vs The Magus, & Cosmic Armor Superman Vs LT Adam Warlock. Also, do videos on The Silver Surfer Vs Captain Atom & The Punisher Vs David Cain.
It isn't that raimi's venom was sensitive to sonic attacks in volume, rather it was sonic attacks by **resonance** the resonance of a pure tone is what his weakness was, not the sheer volume. That's why he was weak to specifically church bells and metal pipes (incredibly resonant) and not other loud sounds like explosions
He reuses his scripts a lot lol. Look at his Doomsday videos and you'll notice how much he reuses from his older scripts. Legit 90% is the same breakdown.
San Rami’s Venom was killed with a SINGLE Pumpkin Bomb, and was defeated with ease, Sony’s Venom took multiple explosions AND the fire from a ROCKET! Sony’s Venom killed every single SWAT member that came his way, Riot, Carnage, and can heal from any injure. And they both have the same weaknesses, BUT! Sam Rami’s Venom was effected by a Church Bell. Which is only 110 Decibels. In the Venom movie, it’s said that Venom can’t handle 4000-6000 Decibels. Sony’s Venom is DESTROYING Sam Rami’s Venom. (And will probably eat him too)
@@DeJetPlayz Venom is actually stronger than Spider-Man in basically every area. Any feat Raimi Spider-Man has, Venom by default should be scaled to those same levels at the very least, but potentially be scaled even higher due to Venom’s superiority.
7:42 it might be true that hitting 2 metal pipes together doesnt make that much noise... If you are a regular human. spiderman on the other hand has super strength so the pipe sounds would be much louder
the pipes didn't dent though. I agree it could well be more than a donk, but there'd definitely be an upper limit to how hard you can whack two things together without damaging one or both of them.
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@MrAntelope7553 yeah, only way I see him losing is somebody claimed the acid blood melted his entire head and overpowered his regeneration, as I've never seen him get melted. Not saying he shouldn't win mind you
Rami venom has strength and speed Sony has endurance and experience also Rami venom was a demon this mf was violent and more animalistic and he was more stealthy. Ramis venom used fear tactics by its screaming and distracting where you'll look. Sure Sony has a better bond but realistically if carnage has a better host it would be GG for Sony venom. And Sony venom isn't going to use sound or heat against Rami venom considering it's his weakness as well and Sony venom wouldn't think to try that. But the reason it's close is because it's revealed that symbiotes have a hive mind so that would make it interesting to see.
Sony venom solos. He managed to assimilate xenophages which mind you are literal hard counters to symbiotes. Sony Venom has more endurance and strength since he's gone toe to toe with Carnage. He's also way smarter and less animalistic. Riot in Sony is way stronger than Riot in the comics since he's a team leader. Sony Venom also got stronger after eating Carnage.
@@Esfarda I wouldn't say Sony is stronger I mean ramis venom is toby strength x5 or something and tobys spider man was strong af and Rami venom stalks it's prey which is why it's a close match. But after what u just told me and after watching venom 3 I do think Sony wins but it's close in my opinion
That should of happened when Venom and eddie were sent to the main MCU timeline where Venom and Eddie join the Spidemans against the other villains with Venom battling the bad venom and it ends with Venom defeating the bad one.
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OK, this is what I think some of the stuff that you said in the video are valid points, but at the same time, those points are not fully clear to what you know about venom if you remember the scene at the end of venom let the carnage venom says something that would prove my theory is that every symbol that was created as so much knowledge that it would overwhelm and pretty much destroy a human brain to the point where they wouldn’t be alive anymore like basically you gotta remember that Topher Grace’s venom the Symbiot in particular was in a totally different universe then Tom Hardy‘s venom for all we know the effects for that universe weren’t as bad as the effects for Topher Grace‘s venom like frequencies are not all the same in every universe sound frequencies in particular, and every universe has different limitations, different events that have happened to cause what is possible and what is not possible and if you think about it, Topher Grace has venom had an advantage that Tom Hardy’s venom did not have because Topher Grace’s venom Symbiot bonded with Spider-Man before he bonded with Eddie Brock, in that universe, so if they were both in the same universe, both venoms, they probably would be on equal playing field at that point let me tell you why because they’re in the same universe yet their strengthen and not the same they’d probably have the same amount of strength between each other, but different abilities, different things that have happened to make them who they are every event that happens to anybody in any universe makes that person unique in that universe so if you take Tom Hardy‘s venom and Topher Grace‘s venom not only would Tom Hardy‘s venom loose this is a fact, but it all depends on mass how big the living thing is how much weight? And also, what abilities that take advantage over the smaller person now it’s like that that one story where that kid I forget his name. I’m not really familiar with most of the Bible stories. It’s like that kid who threw the stones at Goliath the reason why Goliath was ever able to be taken down by a small kid is because for one the kid had an advantage because goliath can’t move as fast as a smaller person the bigger you are the slower you are it’s physics it’s science now although Tom Hardy’s venom is a lot more muscular stronger has gone up against multiple multiple threats. Topher grace has been and would have an advantage hell Spider-Man would have an advantage over Tom Hardy’s venom for one they’re nowhere near is huge as Tom Hardy’s venom so therefore they have an advantage and Grace’s venom is as strong as you say he is not only would it not be close, but it would be far from close. Let me tell you why because Topher grace’s venom is for one fast has a lot of agility. He has basically all the abilities of Spider-Man, but he’s one percent stronger than Spider-Man like in Spider-Man three when Peter Parker says wow I feel stronger. I feel good. I feel like I can take on the world because it really was giving him that feeling. He was giving him the feeling and it was making him stronger, but it fed on his now if the Symbiot thought of another way to survive in a host like Eddie Brock or Spider-Man no he would just have to eat so much and he would just end up like Tom Hardy‘s venom, not only with the bond be stronger, but the Symbiot would’ve won against Spider-Man cause I didn’t think to feed on food that we eat and consume there’s hundreds of reasons why Topher Grace is venom lost against Spider-Man in Spider-Man. Three and don’t forget there was still a piece of the same Symbiot that was attached to Eddie Brock if you remember when the meteor hit a piece of the Symbiot got attached to peters motorcycle he look closely there’s another part of the Symbiot that didn’t make it on to the scooter or whatever it is I don’t really know what he was writing at the time? I forget I haven’t seen the movie in a while, but just know Topher Grace‘s venom would’ve won because of the lack of weight and the strength that he possessed just look at the facts it’s science if you science for everything you think of or do or say you can never go wrong science is always on our side as long as we take advantage of using it to the benefit of a discussion or an argument just know that, and there’s a bunch of stuff that I didn’t mention that the bio can do like the healing factor. It’s better than Deadpool’s healing factor it’s way better because not only can there be like an ounce of DNA left of that person that the Sim is connected to, but it can basically re-create the person that was once bonded with that Symbiot like let’s say Eddie Brock or Spider-Man, but it wouldn’t entirely be that person because it wouldn’t have the memories or anything. It’ll just be a shell cause it’s not a perfect copy. It won’t have his memories. It won’t have anything. It’ll just know with the same gave the shell what kind of knowledge it had of what happened with that human so in theory Eddie is probably not dead. If anything his DNA still exist. It’s everywhere we leave DNA traces everywhere so it’s all about science and what is possible in every universe, but every universe is different. Remember that anyway that’s my argument and trust me. I’m right I usually am. I’m told that by everybody.
Keep thinking your right buddy, you should learn to stop yapping listen if you think graces venom is better then tom Hardy's venom then keep thinking that. Don't say you're right when you really aren't there's a reason why ofc venom would win 1. Long arms and has the best healing factor which idk how you can penetrate venom with some black webs 2. Venom is smarter and stronger than graces venom, and you can see it when he fought carnage and riot 3. Venom has a better bond with eddie Brock from the venom universe than he is on the spiderman universe 4.venom can easily tear graces venom away from it's host 5. Venom is better overall now you see? You aren't always right kid learn to respect opinions
In spiderman 3 Eddie and venom have only been together for a few hours in the venom movies he’s had a long time to adapt to venom and maximize their potential
Regarding the movie's, in the first movie Venom tells Eddie that he himself was a losser on his planet. In regard to Carnage and after that Toxin, these are offsprings. With symbiots every new offspring is stronger than the parent. That's why Venom and Carnage are enemies. Toxin, offspring of Carnage is even stronger. The only time, as far as I know, Venom and Carnage worked together is when Carnage found out about Toxin and got scared because he didn't know if he could beat him and asked Venom to help him against Toxin. Later on Toxin turns out to be a good guy, tortured actually knowing he killed in the beginning after "being born". Eventually he has deep remorse coming from his host who is after all a cop. Imo Toxin is the strongest of the three until there is Venom God. The movies don't always line up with the comics not mentioning alternative universes. What really bothers me is that Toxin has been made green when he is mainly red on his top half and blending in to blue from the waist down. I haven't seen the last movie yet though so I could be misinformed. But what I wrote is a pretty good representation of the original time line. Greetings from Netherland
I think you should clarify which Venom you call what because I thought the Maguire movies were made by Sony and got them mixed up and confused because I had no idea what "Rainy Venom" meant until I looked up the movie after understanding my mistake
it sucks because if the woman wasn't involved carnage his bond with kasady would be perfect as a matter of fact they were ok up until the woman with the high pitched scream entered the frey and venom did not have the upperhand on carnage he just got a few hits in and that's it carnage could have beaten venom without the powerup, I just think he did it to be extra and to cause even more mayhem around the place.
A common trait of symbiotes is that the newer generation is ALWAYS stronger than the previous generation. Riot and Venom are from the same generation, so it’s a closer fight. Carnage is Venom’s child, meaning he was stronger than Venom and still lost the fight It also helps that Raimi Venom got the Spider-Man abilities (web-like tendrils, strength, agility, etc) through bonding with Peter Parker first, while Sony Venom already had those abilities (and they were already stronger than Raimi Venom’s)
Thing I always disagree with is whenever people say that toby was able to overpower would tom In that one moment that's not overpowering not only are humans able to resist a whole lot more force than they're able to exert, but Tom was attacking with his arms above his head while Toby was on the ground using the ground as leverage to push off of him. If you have far more leverage and the physical advantage in that case, of course he's going to be able to stop him. That doesn't mean that that Spider-Man is stronger than the other. He just had the advantage in the situation
I havent finished watching the video, just commenting here on how Peter was shaking as he hit those metal tubes, so Venom wasn't defeated by just any vibration, it was probably as loud if not worse than the church bell being near him.
Edit: I agree sony's venom takes the win, but i want to put some respect on the old life action venom, that was no simple bomb, in the first spiderman movie we see it evaporate people's flesh leaving only their bones, it was able to scar Harry (who had taken the Green Goblin formula at that point), and Venom was weaken by the strong sound waves Peter was creating. (Lets not forget Spiderman eas using so much of his strength here that he impaled those metal tubes into the concrete).
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On a fight with Tobey Maguire and his venom The reason I believe Toby was losing that fight as bad as he was is because that venom had already known Spider-Man knew all weaknesses and everything. I don't think he's beating the other venom in anyway. But the only reason I believe he whooped Spider-Man like that's cuz he knew him first.
Thanks for this video! Because now with this, I can tell the 2007 venom glazers That carnage from the Sony Movie would win against 2007 venom because they’re saying that 2007 venom would win but that’s not true because if this venom can beat 2007 venom carnage sure as heck can. So again, thanks for this video!
The Rami venom could with his strength just rid Sony venom from his host and the fight would be over instantly because Sam Rami said himself that his venom is stronger than spider man in every way
Bully Maguire would throw some dirt in their eyes.
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We talkin about venom not spiderman bro
@@IelneedAnaltbut bully maguire easily puts dirt in their eyes.
@@xojaynotsigning Topher Grace not Bully Maguire
if it was him then Overkill dude...
The fact hat ramis venom is weak to a church bell (110 dc) and sony venom can ride alongside a commercial airplane (150+dc) uneffected is crazy
ah yes its like both venoms are weak against strong loud sounds
@@Toddles He wasn't near the turbine engine. And sound waves don't travel the same when you are in higher altitude also flying faster than sound.
@@christianhenry4173he stood under a spaceship taking off at a low altitude
Dc defines loudness. It’s a certain frequency that hurts venom. Not the volume
@@Omar-hc4pv ok so? Venom can resist sound waves to a certain extent. It's a plot hole..just like how he can resist sounds from guns
0:12 Venom mouth sync perfectly when he talked
LMAO I just noticed
bro cmon LOL
One more major point: Sony Venom is way smarter than Raimi Venom, so there is a 0% chance of Raimi Venom actually winning the fight.
Raimi Venom dominates Venom. Raimi Venom is stronger and atleast equal in speed to Andrew's Spiderman who could react to lightning. Raimi Spiderman should scale to that and he couldn't react to Sandman in some instances and as a result probably wouldn't be able to react to Venom (Raimi). This means that Raimi Venom can also react to lightning which means Sony Venom isn't landing a hit on him since his greatest speed feat is catching a bullet
@@goomyliaplayz7911 You forget that the spider senses are what help them dodge lightning, which don't detect venom at all which means venom doesn't need to be that fast to tag him. This is also proven by the fact that Tom Hollands spiderman can't dodge the train when a train moves signficiantly slower than electricity does and he's relativeto Raimi's Spiderman in speed. Also Venom just has superior striking force because of how far him and riot can hit eachother.
@@goomyliaplayz7911 nah, Sony venom wins
@cagegames4755 you didn't exactly get my point, Andrew and Tobey have same reaction speed which means with spider sense both can react to lightning..as such they should be able to react to The Green Goblin and Sandman but can't sometimes even with spidey sense which means their combat speed is faster than lightning. Also in the train scene he was caught off guard and his spidey senses were going haywire due to being under Mysterio's illusion, we've seen Spiderman dodge bullets casually
@@goomyliaplayz7911 what are you yapping about he can’t react to the speed of light lol
Yeah Sony venom slaps. I like him a lot because he reminds me of the lethal protector comic version of venom. Not the same mind you but the parallels are very hard to ignore.
Bro got two blue highlights in his comment?!
Both are Sony venom dude
Which one
they def took a lot of inspiration from lethal protector
Bro got the blue comment
@@Ammarnafiz12345 if you have to ask then you just need to go read the comic.
The 3 Spider-Men vs The 2 Venoms and 1 Carnage
3 Spider-Men vs 3 Venoms(Sony Venom,Raimi Venom and Sony She Venom) vs Carnage,Riot and Toxin
@@darkarrow3683carnage, riot and toxin win.
@@darkarrow3683toxin is better than venom and carnage not a fair fight
@@meezyYeezy-q2z Well the heroes need a struggle so why not? Can’t be a easy win
@@darkarrow3683 It's not a struggle it's a one sided loss.
It’s a close fight. Venom was easily defeated in Spider-Man 3 because Eddie was separated from him. A symbiote without a host is nothing
Ok, then explain to me why venom with eddie was crying in pain from some metal pipes, or a church bell. That seperated them. Meanwhile it took constant screaming from shriek who knocked off a bell to seperate venom
@ the sound was not just ordinary. It was loud and it was meant to showcase his weakness. Did you not see how how Vernon reacted in venom 2 in the scanning machine? He was greatly disturbed too
@@rcc8347 Ok, let me give you something. Sony venom is said to be lethally injured by 4000-6000 hertz. Spiderman venom was seperated and roaring in pain from 73-1000 hertz(I am using the bell scene as there was no way the pipes were as loud as that)
Sony venom is way tougher with his symbiote to his weaknesses and just in general.
@@nycprtybuai This whole argument is useless because they aren't going to use each others same weaknesses against them like venom isn't going to start making noise to the other venom considering that they both hate noise or heat
Exactly
The sony venom easily win. He literally went up against riot who are a much skilled fighter and fight carnage as well. MCU venom wins and it’s not even close. Spider-Man venom doesn’t really have that much feat
Well if you ever payed attention carnage was only alive for hours since the guy bit a piece of venom
@@ashersikander6379wtf does that have to do with Sony venom low diffing Raimi Venom?💀
@@ashersikander6379he was alive the whole night and had a lot of "powering up" by eating people to add more to his power. Riot also had way more experience.
venom isnt frikin stronger than both of them he won against riot bc riot was in the rocket so it was venom chance,also carnage WOULD have won if it wasnt for that screaming ahh girl.@william3100
sony venom also took on 5 xenophages and won while the other symbiotes couldnt take just one
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We need Venom from Sony vs Venom from PS games (base, when He fought Kraven)
Ps5 clears
PS5 literally has no weakness to fire and beat Kraven who beat Spider-Man. Proceeded to grow wings and even hold his own against Miles and Peter in anti venom suit. Its nowhere near close, Insomniac Venom negs Sony Venom lol
Ps5 Venom no diffs.
End of game Venom Negs
@@rbacon8922dot to forget he grew fricken wings
PS5 venom, he got bonded with spiderman so huge diff
Carnage :Time to die father
Preist : Oh no!
Carnage : Not you father you father
Venom :OH SHIT 😂that part aleays made me laugh
Was it not "death to you father" ?
The problem with this arguement is a big one…
It is TIME!
Let me explain. The “Spider-Venom” as I’ll call it here, did not have the time to bond completely with either Peter or Eddie. Peter only kept the suit for 2 weeks at most, and Eddie only had the symbiote for a similar amount of time. As it was explained in Spider-Man 3 by Doctor Connor, the symbiote needed to to completely bond with its host. Now, he doesn’t go into detail, so we don’t know if that is just how is is in that universe, or if that’s because the hosts were unwilling. However, it makes a big difference.
The later “Slate-Venom” called because he is pretty much a clean slate, having not absorbed or copied any super-abilities; got into his first “real” fight after MONTHS of being bonded with Eddie. Also, when you look back on the Venom 1st movie, they do remove Venom easily from Eddie’s body using low frequency sound waves. Venom also clearly states he is weak to fire, but only has one chance to showcase that(which was a lost opportunity).
This shows that the two can not be compared properly like this, as time is a CRUCIAL factor in symbiote bonding.
The one that fought Spider-Man out scales, but that doesn’t really matter in this fight because The other venom has more abilities, a better durability, a better endurance, better IQ and a better healing factor
Venom (movie version) VS Lizard (movie version)
Tough battle
I'd say that venom(2018 onwards) would win this one.
Their sizes are relatively similar, however venom just has a lot more abilities with his tendrils.
Venoms overall strength and agility are also much higher than the lizard's, and while both do sport impressive healing factors, and the lizard's skin is very durable, venom would be able to overpower him pretty quickly
@@jayrehsi8124lizard’s strength is much higher,he tore through a steel door which was calculated to 224640000 newtons or 22,907 metric tons of force.
Seriously? Venom?
Bro please. Venom is straight POISON for Venom.
Bro there both called venom at least be clear is it's venom or venom
@Channel_It SMH. Venom stans make me sick 😑...
It's all Venom all day! Venom got this!
@@rolandixor venom got it tho
@@Channel_It what's Venom gonna do to Venom? Shapeshift?
All of you guys are wrong,venom slams venom no diff
Tom Hardy's Venom would destroy Topher Grace's Venom.
Stop lyin to yourself
@ronalddominguez3145 I'm not lying kid
@@fearfulclan2007 ok
I was literally watching a video about these Characters. But, a video about 2008 verson Venom. I don't know about y'all, but in my opinion. I think the 2008 version of Venom is well played & the best "scariest" version of Venom we've gotten so far.
forman venom is a massive L...
smh idk what raimi was smoking. lol.
andrew the best spidey and hardy the best venom... hope they team up for knull.
@@ssppeeaarrdisagreed
@@JosephGravingStone5580 2008?
@@ssppeeaarrwithout Spider-Man Trilogy (2002-2007) The Amazing Spider-Man franchise, Spider-Man MCU franchise and Venom Trilogy would not be made. I don't have any favorites because they all played their own versions of the character well.
I agree, Sony Venom is more of a fun type Venom and I love it
I like Tom Hardy's Venom, Now I can't wait to see him in the MCU
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I want to see that video
dceu throws him around no effort
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@@AKR_ice dceu flash runs faster than light while cw flash at peak might run hundreds of machs but not close to lightspeed. i like the cw flash more but he'd lose
@Speaker-Beater where does it say he runa faster than light? CW Flash has all the Feats DCEU flash has displayed like Time Travel and all that and At the end of the CW's season (idk which one I forgot) He displayed a feat against Reverse Flash being able to be so fast even He was super slow. DCEU Flash is enexperienced meanwhile CW Flash has years of experience
He combined one video and made another one top of it to make it seem like one whole video when it’s one video and another video combined
short cuts are necessary sometimes 😂
@@SharkzeYTG he does this all the time though
Spiderman 3 Venom looked like a decent budget was put into his looks, felt and behaved like a monster. He didn't say much. But screamed and fought more. He was a straight up villain and made no jokes. I loved that.
Venom: send terror into most people because of how giant and terrifying he looks
Venom: shrieks like a widow ghost in a cheap horror movie
in part 2 of venom at the end that venom knows how it died and it fights with the hivemind !!! that guy!!!
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Great video ❤
We all expected this
Iron Man (MCU) vs Namor (MCU)
Iron man *stomps*
No, namor wins but its a close fight
@@noahgraff-uw8rs lmao with his last suit, Tony would make a joke out of Namor. Heck around the time of the HulkBuster, Tony would already have a solid chance of beating Namor bcs unless you lived under a rock, Hulk met his match in that movie.
@@ucmanhvuong4301 maybe, but I thought namor had the strenght of hulk. hulkbuster could beat that, but the difference is namor is a lot faster, smaller and more agile, not hitting randomly and very skilled at fighting. unless tony learns about namor's weakness, I still see namor winning
The first Venom was a slap in the face for all fans of my favourite “Lethal Protector!” Current Venom is just bigger and badder than Tobey Maguire Spiderman 3’s Venom. You called it right Dan, though I think you kinda soft balled for SM3 Venom… because it looks like a honk from a passing car could disrupt him temporarily lol… I don’t know maybe he gets motion sickness lmao 🤣
Sony's Venom is definitely the winner here, no contest. Sam Raimi's Venom doesn't even pose a serious threat to Spiderman.
8:25 punmkin bombs were able to disintigrate everything but bones on 2 guys who where a few feet away
plus venom was already mostly separated from Eddie, so little to no protection
Trilogy Venom stomps. Do videos on Silver Age Superman Vs Classic Adam Warlock, Superman/Superboy Prime Vs The Magus, & Cosmic Armor Superman Vs LT Adam Warlock. Also, do videos on The Silver Surfer Vs Captain Atom & The Punisher Vs David Cain.
It isn't that raimi's venom was sensitive to sonic attacks in volume, rather it was sonic attacks by **resonance** the resonance of a pure tone is what his weakness was, not the sheer volume.
That's why he was weak to specifically church bells and metal pipes (incredibly resonant) and not other loud sounds like explosions
dont thinkni didnt notice you used the same script for venom from the other venom video -_-
Like right
He does this regularly
He reuses his scripts a lot lol. Look at his Doomsday videos and you'll notice how much he reuses from his older scripts. Legit 90% is the same breakdown.
Well it is the same bloody character mate 😂
@@S1E2SportQuattro but its unfair to really compare 2 characters and the only new thing you add to the script is: "so ___________ wins"
Fun Fact Rami's Venom was forced into the movie
San Rami’s Venom was killed with a SINGLE Pumpkin Bomb, and was defeated with ease, Sony’s Venom took multiple explosions AND the fire from a ROCKET!
Sony’s Venom killed every single SWAT member that came his way, Riot, Carnage, and can heal from any injure.
And they both have the same weaknesses, BUT! Sam Rami’s Venom was effected by a Church Bell. Which is only 110 Decibels. In the Venom movie, it’s said that Venom can’t handle 4000-6000 Decibels.
Sony’s Venom is DESTROYING Sam Rami’s Venom. (And will probably eat him too)
I think most can agree that Sony Venom is bodying Raimi Venom with low to medium difficulty
Debate me right now i am backing him up
What if Tom Hardy's Venom bounds with Tobey's Spider-Man? How deadly would symbiote Spider-Man be?
best depiction would probably be the Spiderman 2 game, since spiderman still would see venom as no more than a suit and not the hulking mass of Eddies
The second Eddie seems comic book accurate , because he really hated Peter.
I’m gonna throw some sound in your eyes
For Raimi venom, you could've also used examples of the symbiote while it was the black suit on spiderman, As it was essentially the same thing.
Most of the strength from that was from peter
@@DeJetPlayz Venom is actually stronger than Spider-Man in basically every area. Any feat Raimi Spider-Man has, Venom by default should be scaled to those same levels at the very least, but potentially be scaled even higher due to Venom’s superiority.
@@Ethan-hk8se but raimi venom on Eddie wouldn’t have any of that
@DeJetPlayz not really, considering that someone with no powers whatsoever put on the same symbiote and was so much stronger.
@@Ethan-hk8se with a host
venom itself is kinda weak without a host so my point stands
7:42 it might be true that hitting 2 metal pipes together doesnt make that much noise... If you are a regular human. spiderman on the other hand has super strength so the pipe sounds would be much louder
the pipes didn't dent though. I agree it could well be more than a donk, but there'd definitely be an upper limit to how hard you can whack two things together without damaging one or both of them.
Think of the force Spider-Man used to hit those pipes looking at his feets
Don't say what you don't know just because he didn't do it doesn't mean he can't
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All Venom's aside, Hardy would own Grace in a fight.
a huge factor is also size, its way harder for a tiny guy who is stronger to fight examplewise like john cena.
I'ma go with the big venom
Sony venom looks more cooler than raimi venom
Perfect, please next video lucifer (supernatural, trie vessel sam) ful power vs scarlet witch (MoM)
"Power up!" Carnages word
How can you even compare venom to venom
I thought this was gonna be a proper power scale video… I was wrong
because power scaling is stupid af and high balls characters like no tomorrow
im rooting for venom
@@GameglitchGG0 nah venom slams venom
*Metal Pipe sound* Venom: RUUUAUAAUAHHAHGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa...-
Danco we need to do a king of hell Doomsday
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Sabertooth
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Wolverine would win because he can’t die
@MrAntelope7553 yeah, only way I see him losing is somebody claimed the acid blood melted his entire head and overpowered his regeneration, as I've never seen him get melted.
Not saying he shouldn't win mind you
Anyone who ever thought raimi comes even a little clise wasn't in the right state of mind.
Rami venom has strength and speed Sony has endurance and experience also Rami venom was a demon this mf was violent and more animalistic and he was more stealthy. Ramis venom used fear tactics by its screaming and distracting where you'll look. Sure Sony has a better bond but realistically if carnage has a better host it would be GG for Sony venom. And Sony venom isn't going to use sound or heat against Rami venom considering it's his weakness as well and Sony venom wouldn't think to try that. But the reason it's close is because it's revealed that symbiotes have a hive mind so that would make it interesting to see.
Sony venom solos. He managed to assimilate xenophages which mind you are literal hard counters to symbiotes. Sony Venom has more endurance and strength since he's gone toe to toe with Carnage. He's also way smarter and less animalistic. Riot in Sony is way stronger than Riot in the comics since he's a team leader. Sony Venom also got stronger after eating Carnage.
@@Esfarda I wouldn't say Sony is stronger I mean ramis venom is toby strength x5 or something and tobys spider man was strong af and Rami venom stalks it's prey which is why it's a close match. But after what u just told me and after watching venom 3 I do think Sony wins but it's close in my opinion
@@trizard3940 if raimi venom is 5x peters strength how come they were even in a fight
4:23 he did NOT overpower him toms spider man is trying to push down over head which uses mostly his SHOULDERS vs maguiers using HIS ENTIRE BODY!?!?!?
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When one symbiotte eats another, doesn't it gain its power? If that's the case, doesn't that mean venom gained carnages power?
I think they may of retconned that
That should of happened when Venom and eddie were sent to the main MCU timeline where Venom and Eddie join the Spidemans against the other villains with Venom battling the bad venom and it ends with Venom defeating the bad one.
I'd love to see Darkseid vs Rick Sanchez!!! Rick defeated WorldEnder when he was black out drunk. I think this would be a good fight
Rick would win
Obviously the guy with a trilogy and the anti-hero would win. He has gotten more chances to pull off crazy feats.
I absolutely love the design for venom in spider man 3, too bad that he would always show the actors face instead of showing his badass suit
we need venom vs venom vs venom
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• Owlman vs Spider-Shot(Edge of Spider-Verse)
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OK, this is what I think some of the stuff that you said in the video are valid points, but at the same time, those points are not fully clear to what you know about venom if you remember the scene at the end of venom let the carnage venom says something that would prove my theory is that every symbol that was created as so much knowledge that it would overwhelm and pretty much destroy a human brain to the point where they wouldn’t be alive anymore like basically you gotta remember that Topher Grace’s venom the Symbiot in particular was in a totally different universe then Tom Hardy‘s venom for all we know the effects for that universe weren’t as bad as the effects for Topher Grace‘s venom like frequencies are not all the same in every universe sound frequencies in particular, and every universe has different limitations, different events that have happened to cause what is possible and what is not possible and if you think about it, Topher Grace has venom had an advantage that Tom Hardy’s venom did not have because Topher Grace’s venom Symbiot bonded with Spider-Man before he bonded with Eddie Brock, in that universe, so if they were both in the same universe, both venoms, they probably would be on equal playing field at that point let me tell you why because they’re in the same universe yet their strengthen and not the same they’d probably have the same amount of strength between each other, but different abilities, different things that have happened to make them who they are every event that happens to anybody in any universe makes that person unique in that universe so if you take Tom Hardy‘s venom and Topher Grace‘s venom not only would Tom Hardy‘s venom loose this is a fact, but it all depends on mass how big the living thing is how much weight? And also, what abilities that take advantage over the smaller person now it’s like that that one story where that kid I forget his name. I’m not really familiar with most of the Bible stories. It’s like that kid who threw the stones at Goliath the reason why Goliath was ever able to be taken down by a small kid is because for one the kid had an advantage because goliath can’t move as fast as a smaller person the bigger you are the slower you are it’s physics it’s science now although Tom Hardy’s venom is a lot more muscular stronger has gone up against multiple multiple threats. Topher grace has been and would have an advantage hell Spider-Man would have an advantage over Tom Hardy’s venom for one they’re nowhere near is huge as Tom Hardy’s venom so therefore they have an advantage and Grace’s venom is as strong as you say he is not only would it not be close, but it would be far from close. Let me tell you why because Topher grace’s venom is for one fast has a lot of agility. He has basically all the abilities of Spider-Man, but he’s one percent stronger than Spider-Man like in Spider-Man three when Peter Parker says wow I feel stronger. I feel good. I feel like I can take on the world because it really was giving him that feeling. He was giving him the feeling and it was making him stronger, but it fed on his now if the Symbiot thought of another way to survive in a host like Eddie Brock or Spider-Man no he would just have to eat so much and he would just end up like Tom Hardy‘s venom, not only with the bond be stronger, but the Symbiot would’ve won against Spider-Man cause I didn’t think to feed on food that we eat and consume there’s hundreds of reasons why Topher Grace is venom lost against Spider-Man in Spider-Man. Three and don’t forget there was still a piece of the same Symbiot that was attached to Eddie Brock if you remember when the meteor hit a piece of the Symbiot got attached to peters motorcycle he look closely there’s another part of the Symbiot that didn’t make it on to the scooter or whatever it is I don’t really know what he was writing at the time? I forget I haven’t seen the movie in a while, but just know Topher Grace‘s venom would’ve won because of the lack of weight and the strength that he possessed just look at the facts it’s science if you science for everything you think of or do or say you can never go wrong science is always on our side as long as we take advantage of using it to the benefit of a discussion or an argument just know that, and there’s a bunch of stuff that I didn’t mention that the bio can do like the healing factor. It’s better than Deadpool’s healing factor it’s way better because not only can there be like an ounce of DNA left of that person that the Sim is connected to, but it can basically re-create the person that was once bonded with that Symbiot like let’s say Eddie Brock or Spider-Man, but it wouldn’t entirely be that person because it wouldn’t have the memories or anything. It’ll just be a shell cause it’s not a perfect copy. It won’t have his memories. It won’t have anything. It’ll just know with the same gave the shell what kind of knowledge it had of what happened with that human so in theory Eddie is probably not dead. If anything his DNA still exist. It’s everywhere we leave DNA traces everywhere so it’s all about science and what is possible in every universe, but every universe is different. Remember that anyway that’s my argument and trust me. I’m right I usually am. I’m told that by everybody.
Keep thinking your right buddy, you should learn to stop yapping listen if you think graces venom is better then tom Hardy's venom then keep thinking that. Don't say you're right when you really aren't there's a reason why ofc venom would win
1. Long arms and has the best healing factor which idk how you can penetrate venom with some black webs
2. Venom is smarter and stronger than graces venom, and you can see it when he fought carnage and riot
3. Venom has a better bond with eddie Brock from the venom universe than he is on the spiderman universe
4.venom can easily tear graces venom away from it's host
5. Venom is better overall now you see? You aren't always right kid learn to respect opinions
%100 agree
What the article
Actually Venom would have beat him.
In spiderman 3 Eddie and venom have only been together for a few hours in the venom movies he’s had a long time to adapt to venom and maximize their potential
Yeah but spidey only holds back...
oh comeonnn! we can clearly see venom wins here with low diff
Regarding the movie's, in the first movie Venom tells Eddie that he himself was a losser on his planet. In regard to Carnage and after that Toxin, these are offsprings. With symbiots every new offspring is stronger than the parent. That's why Venom and Carnage are enemies. Toxin, offspring of Carnage is even stronger. The only time, as far as I know, Venom and Carnage worked together is when Carnage found out about Toxin and got scared because he didn't know if he could beat him and asked Venom to help him against Toxin. Later on Toxin turns out to be a good guy, tortured actually knowing he killed in the beginning after "being born". Eventually he has deep remorse coming from his host who is after all a cop. Imo Toxin is the strongest of the three until there is Venom God. The movies don't always line up with the comics not mentioning alternative universes. What really bothers me is that Toxin has been made green when he is mainly red on his top half and blending in to blue from the waist down. I haven't seen the last movie yet though so I could be misinformed. But what I wrote is a pretty good representation of the original time line.
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When you watch the movie pls listen to what they say Abt toxin a lot of people talk shi but missed what they say
Suggestion: Jody Summer (F-Zero) vs the Flash (DC Comics)
venom vs parasyte (animation TV) next
I think you should clarify which Venom you call what because I thought the Maguire movies were made by Sony and got them mixed up and confused because I had no idea what "Rainy Venom" meant until I looked up the movie after understanding my mistake
Yeah venom slaps venom
idk man i think venom wins
That's why I Like Sony's Venom better, plus he has his funny moments.
5:12 Ehh, I think the Andrew Garfield one is stronger
He’s not
@@spiderxparker_ Why do you think so?
@@Myki1-o21 he has less impressive strength feats than Tobey
@ True, but Andrew fought multiple powerful characters, wait… nevermind. Tobey is probably stronger
@@Myki1-o21He did get blown up and lived, we seen the pumpkin bomb turn people into skeletons right away and Toby Spider-Man still lived
I would like to see Raimi venom at its potential, it does look intimidating
it sucks because if the woman wasn't involved carnage his bond with kasady would be perfect as a matter of fact they were ok up until the woman with the high pitched scream entered the frey and venom did not have the upperhand on carnage he just got a few hits in and that's it carnage could have beaten venom without the powerup, I just think he did it to be extra and to cause even more mayhem around the place.
A common trait of symbiotes is that the newer generation is ALWAYS stronger than the previous generation. Riot and Venom are from the same generation, so it’s a closer fight. Carnage is Venom’s child, meaning he was stronger than Venom and still lost the fight
It also helps that Raimi Venom got the Spider-Man abilities (web-like tendrils, strength, agility, etc) through bonding with Peter Parker first, while Sony Venom already had those abilities (and they were already stronger than Raimi Venom’s)
Thing I always disagree with is whenever people say that toby was able to overpower would tom In that one moment that's not overpowering not only are humans able to resist a whole lot more force than they're able to exert, but Tom was attacking with his arms above his head while Toby was on the ground using the ground as leverage to push off of him. If you have far more leverage and the physical advantage in that case, of course he's going to be able to stop him. That doesn't mean that that Spider-Man is stronger than the other. He just had the advantage in the situation
Fun fact: Tom's spider man without gadgets is enough for raimi's venom
I havent finished watching the video, just commenting here on how Peter was shaking as he hit those metal tubes, so Venom wasn't defeated by just any vibration, it was probably as loud if not worse than the church bell being near him.
Edit: I agree sony's venom takes the win, but i want to put some respect on the old life action venom, that was no simple bomb, in the first spiderman movie we see it evaporate people's flesh leaving only their bones, it was able to scar Harry (who had taken the Green Goblin formula at that point), and Venom was weaken by the strong sound waves Peter was creating. (Lets not forget Spiderman eas using so much of his strength here that he impaled those metal tubes into the concrete).
Let's be real, we all knew Venom would win.
SM3 venom works more like an assasin while new venom is more of a tank.
it took me like 20 times of you saying raimi venom to actually hear "Raimi Venom". I heard Grainy Venom the whole vidro 😅
Bane (DC Comics) vs Roronoa Zoro
King Fergus (Brave) vs Stoick the vast (How to Train Your Dragon)
Sonic the Hedgehog vs Lucario (Pokémon)
Sailor Moon vs Bayonetta
Stoick definitely wins. He battles dragons on the daily, Fergus struggles with a bear
Of course the black one would win👴
Toby maguire spiderman vs tom hardy venom is not even close
Yeeah Spider-Man would lose this fight
Toby Spiderman knows the symbiote's weaknesses, I’m pretty sure he would outsmart venom any day
@@Semiq2001no he wouldn't Tobey has stronger feats than him Sony venom doesn't even beat raimis venom
Tom Hardy Venom lose
not to mention Toby's is the strongest iteration of spiderman in the three main series' (Toby, Andrew, and Tom)
Explained well. Sony Venom also looks better.🙂🙂
On a fight with Tobey Maguire and his venom The reason I believe Toby was losing that fight as bad as he was is because that venom had already known Spider-Man knew all weaknesses and everything. I don't think he's beating the other venom in anyway. But the only reason I believe he whooped Spider-Man like that's cuz he knew him first.
Spiderman held back his strength ageinst venom as hes host is hes best friend
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Well yeah dude is the main character in his movie he has the plot armor 😂
one venom was meant too happen the other was forced by the studio
Thanks for this video! Because now with this, I can tell the 2007 venom glazers That carnage from the Sony Movie would win against 2007 venom because they’re saying that 2007 venom would win but that’s not true because if this venom can beat 2007 venom carnage sure as heck can. So again, thanks for this video!
The Rami venom could with his strength just rid Sony venom from his host and the fight would be over instantly because Sam Rami said himself that his venom is stronger than spider man in every way
That concludes that venom is even weaker symbiote if he didn't bonded with spider man