It's going to be harder for them when propaganda pieces like this pop up. This video states violence and even murder in the title, then provides ZERO evidence for it. Even the few people they found who agreed with them had very little to say to back up vices claims. Vice is a sad shell of its former self. It's 100% propaganda and even outright lies now.
Actually the people didn't really even back up vices claims at all. One guy slightly backed up their claims of physical punishment, but that was all. Vice has become shameless and watching their videos always makes me feel shame for them. So they're brilliant at being psychopathic.
He could easily sing in a Japanese metal band. With his charisma and sense of rhythm he is a natural singer. He could even tour in the US if they tried
@@rhino6139 I know a filmmaker who's been involved in the making of docs that use anonymity like this. Firstly, it's done to further obfuscate whoever they're protecting Secondly, I doubt they paid whoever that is much, and you'd rather do that than blow one of your sources. The only reason they can get people to do this is because they can guarantee safety. If they don't, no one would talk to them.
He was great!👍🏼😎 I did laugh when the cops rolled up tho. "You are too loud and put some clothes on"👮♂️😆 Tbh Japanese cops would lose their f'n minds patroling street performing here in the USA😂😂
One of those things you actually be mad curious about as a kid but just keeps becoming a caricature in cartoons so much you forget about it In real life
Combat sports have come such a long way. Sumo may not win you a street fight, but watching those who practice the traditions and art feels like I am looking through a periscope into an unaltered past.
I’ve been in a few bar fights and trained as a boxer. Idk what sumo involves but the power to shove is more powerful than punching in fighting. Chasing a knock out punch gets you a court case and cracked teeth. But a dominating shove to the ground gets u respect and a quick victory
@@Kthomasritchie Idk Westley beat Fezzik because Fezzik hasn’t “fought just one person... for so long. Been specializing in groups, battling gangs for local charities. That kind of thing.”
I agree with being able to differentiate violence from training. Sometime training needs to be what many would to consider 'violent' to build strength and integrity. I mean, a lot of people would consider US Navy Seal training violent in a lot of ways.
I was discussing this with a friend who has an aikido dojo and my takeaway that it is all about consent. Being slapped as part of a sumai match is not violence. The same person slapping you less hard because they feel insulted at dinner is violence.
I know what u mean, but the example u give kind of "unrealistict (?)". Us navy seal is not sport club but soldiers organization, they are not competing for the best against someone or something. When ur sport training become as hellish as millitary training maybe u already in violance zone.
I was a kid when The Karate Kid came out, I don't know how old you are, but there was a huge Karate craze. Dojos opened up everywhere. One opened in my town. I'd ride past it on my bicycle and see kids (like 7-10 years old) forced to do knuckle push-ups on the concrete sidewalk. About 15 years later, I joined a dojo and my Sensei had gone to that dojo. He told me about the knuckle push-ups on the sidewalk and having to push up his pant legs to kneel on wooden dowels on the sidewalk and do knuckle push-ups. I had come across several other people who had gone to that dojo when they were kids and they had similar stories. The sensei explained it all away to the parents as toughening up their hands and knees.
Beating someone up for an hour straight is not "training" them in any way. Especially when it's in a sport that doesn't allow hitting or kicking of any kind lolol
That was interesting. I do feel that the term 'violence' is being used/defined too loosely in this content/context - Sumo is a combat sport, 'violence' is an inherent part of the pursuit. By not being clearer in the definition of the problem, which I understand to be physical abuse, it devalues the claims made herein.
Nah it’s more like pushing around and stuff like roughing them up during practice knocking them over if their stance isn’t right is okay but punching them out or making them bleed breaking bones is too much
for real, its like she's surprised that a violent sport involves violence in training. Firstly, it'd be dangerous not to train for that, and secondly, any violent sport will have spill over in training by design. You put 2 competitive dudes to face each other off day-in day-out, there's gonna be some extracurriculars. I played competitive ice hockey in a specialized boarding school and that was also the reality of the environment. It's not toxic, it makes you tougher and more prepared when things get tough in the rink. The wost mentioned here is essentially the occasional fist fight. That happens in every high school across the world, honestly looks like a pretty safe and accepting environment.
i remember YEARS ago watching a show or video of sumo training and one of the wrestlers in training was completely black and blue from head to toe from bruises from his master from beating him with a cane every time he lost and it was shown as a normal thing that's just done. it must have been 20 or 30 years ago.
I got into sumo a year ago. I’ve watched every basho since. It’s fascinating to watch as the massive weight is something that isn’t being completely forsaken, but the Best Rikishi are big and muscular more so than just heavy.
I've been interested in getting into it for months now. Watched a lot of it just not the live stuff... can I ask how you find live (or current) coverage of sumo in the west? you finding it online?
Hakuho dominated sumo for nearly 15 years and is widely regarded as one of the best rikishi to ever live, if not the greatest. And he was "only" about 340 pounds. And while that might sound like a lot to the average person, in sumo it was about average. There were lots of rikishi that were well over 400 pounds. And yet Hakuho regularly crushed them all. And that's because he had superior strength and technique. And so you're right. It's not just sheer size. And you're also right that sumo wrestlers (rikishi) are built different due to their unique diet and training. They aren't blubbery whales. They're very strong because constantly wrestling other huge dudes give you the kind of strength that you can't achieve in the gym. Every sinew of their body is strengthened from their training. And they have unique fat distributions all over their bodies as well which protects them falls and impacts.
I lived in Japan for 2 years. Never saw one homeless and they in general as a culture are very fit and thin. Sumo is a legacy but the life style is very guarded. I never in my experience met someone in the position. Wish I did. I will say confidently that the Japanese culture is the most respectful, most polite, most impactful culture Iv ever encountered. Truly amazing people. We have a lot to learn.
I actually saw many homeless under bridges or areas that aren’t too visible. Japanese society tends to want to hide ‘unsavoury’ parts of their country, fyi. I think it’s better if the homeless didn’t get pushed to stay invisible..
Lol, you dont see homeless people in Japan because they're much better at hiding the homeless . Countries like singapore are much better at actually making sure their citizens have a roof over their heads.
As a kid, I watched a lot of sumo with my dad and sister, and I grew up in Denmark (cold north/Scandinavia). There is just someting about that raw power and still lightning quick speed.
Vice had done an impressive job acquiring so much vintage sumo-footage for this feature. I'm quite blown away by how much coverage has been made of this sport over the decades.
@@platonicbuu7454 Dude, i'm embarassed that I have to spell this out to you, but my commendation is how the editor of this story assembled 50+ videos for our viewing enjoyment of sumo. On top of that it was just a well produced feature. So _why_ would I want to spend precious hours mining youtube for old content on a sport that I know very little about, and care very little of, when I could just watch this one VICE feature? SMH Have you ever watched news coverage of anything historic in your life?
The most distinguishing thing I saw was his eye and hair cut. Which is really a vary traditional Japanese haircut. And believe me VICE has done way worse when it comes to concealing identities.
sumo is cool because if you were paying attention to it, in the last 10-15 years, you just witnessed the Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth of the sport during the prime of his life.. Hakuhō Shō recently retired but he just completed what is arguably the greatest professional sumo career in history.. search for some of his matches you won't be disappointed
Honestly i was abused throughout all of my school years by all of my teachers i just look back now and think wow those abusive nasty bstard teachers really did a number on me, Shouting at me, Telling me im a bad bad boy. Telling me ill end up on benefits when im older anyway. Sending me out of class all the time, locking me in a room at lunch detention rooms its no wonder im a mess, i trusted those teachers.
What is boils down to is paying your dues and gaining respect. Unfortunately, “tough love” is the norm in Sumo as well as other collectives. I can understand that they want to make sure whomever joins is dedicated and not wasting time. However, when violence and hazing (blood wings) is associated within these collectives; things will go wrong.
Different strokes, I guess. I have been a passionate sumo fan since high school. I love the rituals, the tension, the action, and the rikishi themselves. It is one of my two favorite sports. On the other hand, there are sports that other people love to watch that I don't. I don't watch tennis, golf, or basketball.
@@moses4203 I lived in Japan for four years, about a million years ago. My dad was in the Air Force and was stationed at Yokota Air Base. I was in high school. I don't remember exactly when or why we started watching sumo, but we did. I found that I really, really enjoyed watching it. We went to the Kokugikan to watch live a couple of times, visited a stable, and attended an autograph session. At the time there was a Hawaiian wrestler, Takamiyama aka Jesse Kuhaulua, who was quite popular with Americans living in Japan, for obvious reasons. Getting into sumo was a way of engaging with Japanese culture, I guess. My sister and I both developed crushes on Takanohana (the Ozeki, not the Yokozuna, who was his son). He was known as the Prince of Sumo for his good looks. Anyway. I find sumo to be a great spectator sport. The matches are brief, but exciting, and there are lots of them. There are often great story lines: the up-and-comer versus the wily veteran, the college roommates who had a falling out, the guy who got demoted through injury and is clawing his way back, two great technicians facing off, the David versus the Goliath matches, and so on. I also love the tradition, ritual, and pageantry. In what other sport do the referees wear silk and double as calligraphers? What other athletes wear hair styles that go back to the samurai? Really, there is nothing else like professional sumo.
I agree with you whole heartedly, Vice, you aren't taking anominity seriously enough. This person told a very specific story and you showed his hair, clearly, his skin color, his hair line, his approximate build and size, and worst of all you showed an HD closeup of his eyes, eye color, eyebrows, ear and type of nose. Anyone in this circle who would watch this video will easily identify him. I know you guys showed a part of him to give validity that he is who he says he is but you just showed far too much and I hope he doesn't get punished severely for speaking out due to your negligence.
They're a for-profit business, I'd say that's why they have to sensationalize it, without those clicks there won't be anymore videos and without baiting people like you or I there won't be enough clicks
Thank you for doing this show. Sumo was my grandfather's favorite sport by far. I still have his playbill/catalogs i dont know how to translate the thing but it is or was Japan's most popular sport even in modern times. It's an interesting culture for people, who like me, are usually skinny af. Fascinating is the sumo culture.
estrogen boys with tits. They are not enthralled about their beat downs. Those same men are going to defend their Fat activities if they can win. I do not like how it goes. I like the spirit of this video. What are you trying to change? Bullying? Tell me how then, i'll join you. Elsewise, fist yoself.
those weren't professional wrestlers. the white training belt is reserved for high rank wrestlers and none of those guys have the required chonmage (hair). they're most likely a highschool club.
I know that the organization just send ex wrestlers into society without skills or money, but this abuse on the inside surprises me giving the ancient culture around the sport.. I shouldn’t be surprised tho
That they actually have strict eating habits to say. It's good habits but strict to say. I wanna try this traditionL soup that they eat. It's got everything in it you can think of and it looks amazing. 😋 Chanko Nabe it's actually called. ❤️
I used to watch Sumo wrestling all the time when I lived in Germany. For some reason it and bullfighting were always on TV. So the referee wears a sword so that if he makes a bad call during a match, he can commit suicide with it. One time a referee made a bad call during a match that was overridden by a group of judges watching the match and I was like “Is he going to do it???”
I hear in the USA for the UFC they use violence to train. Absolutely unacceptable. MMA needs to change its culture and not use violence to teach. Totally unnecessary. You don’t need to punch people in the face to learn how to punch people in the face.
NHK got me into sumo . Never thought it would be something I'd get into but after you watch a Lil guy dominate an opponent 3 times their size I was hooked
I was the same always check out NHK’s grand sumo summary videos on facebook. Think people don’t understand the skills involved and just see big dudes pushing each other.
I can confirm similar things would happen back when I was involved. One evening in particular a young man was slapped over and over, repeatedly, so fast I couldn't count all the hits, until he flew back landing on his back on the floor of the bathhouse. After that day I decided to leave and become an astronaut instead of pursuing my sumo career any longer.
At 9:35 I didn't realize how loud my volume was on my phone. My roommates gotta be wondering wtf I'm watching lol. Edit: 11:28 welp, there he goes again.
Am I understanding this correctly, the “coaches” for lack of a better term beat their wrestlers when they mess up so they’ll learn? Am I getting that correctly?
So long it doesn't bring you to the hospital or cause death when you're training in the martial arts . For combat or combat sports, expect that to happen. This is NOT ballet, it's combat although be it it comes out of sport like sumo but sumo originally was for combat in the military if history serves me right about Japan.
Re-upload for timing, bc there's a sumo tournament going on right now (Sept. 2022). Probably also to scrub off the comments from sumo fans about the strategic use of long- outdated stories to cast the angle.
I saw 3 sumo guys in pride F. C. A Sumo guy vs Royce Gracie, Bob Sap vs another sumo guy .Fedor vs Zuzulino, Don Fry vs another sumo guy and another sumo guy trying with his beautiful, amazing martial art till the end of the world and apocalypse 🔥
I think they just thought it'd be cool to see giant people try to knock each other over, it's kind of like fencing in that it's a sport rather than a fight to just knock some one out like boxing, even MMA they say is restricted because there's a lot of restrictions of things you can do in the street but it's not so unique and niche like sumo and fencing. And plus it's so cool
This has such a low vibration it’s unbearable. The vibe is utterly depressing. This gets you to the sunken place. When will you start making a show about winners!? All this mustard drenched misery.
Tradition should never be used as an excuse to "ok" abuse! Especially in the modern day, weather in sumo culture, the geisha/maiko culture, the martial arts culture, religious culter ECT, ... world wide the hiding abouse behind "tradition" must stop!
I've been a fan of Sumo since the 90s and am a retired Marine. When I went into boot camp in 2000, I fully expected to be physically abused, which I was. But I stuck it out, became numb to the pain, and kept the discipline to keep improving and moving forward. Not letting them break me, and proving that I had what it took to be there. Sumo is not much different. Pain makes you stronger if you embrace it and understand that it's a necessary conditioning for what you may face in combat. "That which does not k*ll us makes us stronger." Very few have the mental resolve to learn to love pain and let it temper you like steel. Once you can achieve that, nothing can break you.
Whoever is reading this, i pray that whatever you’re going through gets better and whatever you’re struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Hello there! I make entertaining videos as well and I bet I can put a smile on your face ! Just see for yourself and let me know what video I should do or try next! Goodluck❤️🔥🙏🏽!!
I think the Yakuza have or had a HUGE part in a lot of this violence. It just wouldn't surprise me in the least. Because they certainly have there hands in pro wrestling or Puroresu. That's been documented quite a bit.
Hello Vice. Please take the time to use a voiceover during interviews. Your content is great, but it’s frustrating to be forced to stop whatever I am doing, in order to read subtitles. The native dialogue doesn’t add anything to your story/video.
2:50 thank you for showing who it is even tho he said he diddnt want to be seen. not all asians look the same we can see who it is just by the corner of his face...
You can never eliminate the inherent violence of an inherently violent sport/way of life. However, that doesn’t mean you must sacrifice the bodies of young men at the altar of tradition. They will simply search for fame, glory, and most importantly, money at the easier sports.
This kind of thing happens in many Martial Arts. It’s a form of conditioning but it’s misinterpreted, misunderstood and used and abused by many. The conditioning is essential but you should only except it from a professional Teacher that you can trust and won’t abuse your trust.
This isn’t just sumo. Discipline, education and training consisted of violence during the Showa era in every aspect. Whether that was from your teacher, senpais, school sports teams, cram schools, from your parents etc. It was only in the 90s when it started to calm down due to strict policies.
Zastanawiające jest brak podziału na wagę ciała zawodników sumo. We wszystkich innych sportach walki i silowych taki podzial istnieje. Istnieje też tak zeana lkategoria openn .
Can we all just wish just that sumo performer gets a successful life. The man was entertaining to watch.
He's already made it
It's going to be harder for them when propaganda pieces like this pop up.
This video states violence and even murder in the title, then provides ZERO evidence for it. Even the few people they found who agreed with them had very little to say to back up vices claims.
Vice is a sad shell of its former self. It's 100% propaganda and even outright lies now.
Heart disease sounds like the best outcome after watching this. Of course vice is biased about pretty much everything.
Actually the people didn't really even back up vices claims at all.
One guy slightly backed up their claims of physical punishment, but that was all.
Vice has become shameless and watching their videos always makes me feel shame for them. So they're brilliant at being psychopathic.
He could easily sing in a Japanese metal band. With his charisma and sense of rhythm he is a natural singer. He could even tour in the US if they tried
For everyone saying they didn't obscure the rikishi very well, they 100% used a stand in, they almost always do for docs like this.
I doubt it
That's what I was thinking also-
Let's hope so
Why pay another actor? Annd if they get killed pr beaten i doubt they'll sue vice
@@rhino6139 I know a filmmaker who's been involved in the making of docs that use anonymity like this.
Firstly, it's done to further obfuscate whoever they're protecting
Secondly, I doubt they paid whoever that is much, and you'd rather do that than blow one of your sources. The only reason they can get people to do this is because they can guarantee safety. If they don't, no one would talk to them.
Dude is dropping the beat AND spitting fire.
The sumo street performer could have a future as a rock singer.
No joke!
HERNIAHUHHHHH !!! HERnIAAAAUHHHHHUHHHH !!! 😜🤪🤪🤪
He even knows how to deal with the cops. 😎
He was great!👍🏼😎
I did laugh when the cops rolled up tho. "You are too loud and put some clothes on"👮♂️😆
Tbh Japanese cops would lose their f'n minds patroling street performing here in the USA😂😂
The man’s energy is just awesome
That street performer was one of the nicest people i know. Hes an inspiring guy and very strong!
One of those things you actually be mad curious about as a kid but just keeps becoming a caricature in cartoons so much you forget about it In real life
Like I've never thought of it as a serious thing. Ignorantly based on their uniform.
Combat sports have come such a long way. Sumo may not win you a street fight, but watching those who practice the traditions and art feels like I am looking through a periscope into an unaltered past.
If you're the size of a sumo wrestler, I seriously doubt a street fight would register on your worry list.
Lmao they would fucking destroy in a street fight are you 12?
I’ve been in a few bar fights and trained as a boxer. Idk what sumo involves but the power to shove is more powerful than punching in fighting. Chasing a knock out punch gets you a court case and cracked teeth. But a dominating shove to the ground gets u respect and a quick victory
A periscope?!?!
Like…from under water?
@@Kthomasritchie
Idk
Westley beat Fezzik because Fezzik hasn’t
“fought just one person... for so long. Been specializing in groups, battling gangs for local charities. That kind of thing.”
That street sumo guy has a million dollar smile. I bet he could become a model .
I agree with being able to differentiate violence from training. Sometime training needs to be what many would to consider 'violent' to build strength and integrity. I mean, a lot of people would consider US Navy Seal training violent in a lot of ways.
I was discussing this with a friend who has an aikido dojo and my takeaway that it is all about consent. Being slapped as part of a sumai match is not violence. The same person slapping you less hard because they feel insulted at dinner is violence.
I know what u mean, but the example u give kind of "unrealistict (?)".
Us navy seal is not sport club but soldiers organization, they are not competing for the best against someone or something.
When ur sport training become as hellish as millitary training maybe u already in violance zone.
I was a kid when The Karate Kid came out, I don't know how old you are, but there was a huge Karate craze. Dojos opened up everywhere. One opened in my town. I'd ride past it on my bicycle and see kids (like 7-10 years old) forced to do knuckle push-ups on the concrete sidewalk. About 15 years later, I joined a dojo and my Sensei had gone to that dojo. He told me about the knuckle push-ups on the sidewalk and having to push up his pant legs to kneel on wooden dowels on the sidewalk and do knuckle push-ups. I had come across several other people who had gone to that dojo when they were kids and they had similar stories. The sensei explained it all away to the parents as toughening up their hands and knees.
When you say Navy Seal training, it remind me of Kopassus that using Dopper training.
Beating someone up for an hour straight is not "training" them in any way. Especially when it's in a sport that doesn't allow hitting or kicking of any kind lolol
Sending love and support to that sumo performer seems like a genuine guy!
That was interesting. I do feel that the term 'violence' is being used/defined too loosely in this content/context - Sumo is a combat sport, 'violence' is an inherent part of the pursuit. By not being clearer in the definition of the problem, which I understand to be physical abuse, it devalues the claims made herein.
Nah it’s more like pushing around and stuff like roughing them up during practice knocking them over if their stance isn’t right is okay but punching them out or making them bleed breaking bones is too much
for real, its like she's surprised that a violent sport involves violence in training. Firstly, it'd be dangerous not to train for that, and secondly, any violent sport will have spill over in training by design. You put 2 competitive dudes to face each other off day-in day-out, there's gonna be some extracurriculars. I played competitive ice hockey in a specialized boarding school and that was also the reality of the environment. It's not toxic, it makes you tougher and more prepared when things get tough in the rink.
The wost mentioned here is essentially the occasional fist fight. That happens in every high school across the world, honestly looks like a pretty safe and accepting environment.
@@craigwapples4200tell me you haven’t done a combat sport without telling me you haven’t done a combat sport
This anonymous guy doesn't look very anonymous... another bang up job by vice... way to honor his wish to be anonymous. Damn
It’s a stand in. Come on guys, use your heads
@@bmorebob6624 nah it's easier to just get mad at vice
@@bmorebob6624 agreed
I guess he’ll get another 1 hour beating
@@DoomPiratelmao
the "Hernia" rendition was beautiful
i remember YEARS ago watching a show or video of sumo training and one of the wrestlers in training was completely black and blue from head to toe from bruises from his master from beating him with a cane every time he lost and it was shown as a normal thing that's just done. it must have been 20 or 30 years ago.
I got into sumo a year ago. I’ve watched every basho since. It’s fascinating to watch as the massive weight is something that isn’t being completely forsaken, but the Best Rikishi are big and muscular more so than just heavy.
I've been interested in getting into it for months now. Watched a lot of it just not the live stuff... can I ask how you find live (or current) coverage of sumo in the west? you finding it online?
Hakuho dominated sumo for nearly 15 years and is widely regarded as one of the best rikishi to ever live, if not the greatest. And he was "only" about 340 pounds. And while that might sound like a lot to the average person, in sumo it was about average. There were lots of rikishi that were well over 400 pounds. And yet Hakuho regularly crushed them all. And that's because he had superior strength and technique. And so you're right. It's not just sheer size. And you're also right that sumo wrestlers (rikishi) are built different due to their unique diet and training. They aren't blubbery whales. They're very strong because constantly wrestling other huge dudes give you the kind of strength that you can't achieve in the gym. Every sinew of their body is strengthened from their training. And they have unique fat distributions all over their bodies as well which protects them falls and impacts.
I lived in Japan for 2 years. Never saw one homeless and they in general as a culture are very fit and thin. Sumo is a legacy but the life style is very guarded. I never in my experience met someone in the position. Wish I did. I will say confidently that the Japanese culture is the most respectful, most polite, most impactful culture Iv ever encountered. Truly amazing people. We have a lot to learn.
I travelled there and only saw 1 or 2 in a city. He was looking for food in the trash.
I actually saw many homeless under bridges or areas that aren’t too visible. Japanese society tends to want to hide ‘unsavoury’ parts of their country, fyi.
I think it’s better if the homeless didn’t get pushed to stay invisible..
Lol, you dont see homeless people in Japan because they're much better at hiding the homeless .
Countries like singapore are much better at actually making sure their citizens have a roof over their heads.
Also the most racist
@@readysetmosesdebateable, Europe and America take the cake for this
9:28 That street performer was spittin 🤣 , sounded like a Japanese RZA from Wu Tang Clan 🔥
As a kid, I watched a lot of sumo with my dad and sister, and I grew up in Denmark (cold north/Scandinavia). There is just someting about that raw power and still lightning quick speed.
Vice had done an impressive job acquiring so much vintage sumo-footage for this feature. I'm quite blown away by how much coverage has been made of this sport over the decades.
i can also search up "old sumo videos" lmfao
@@platonicbuu7454 aren’t you clever lmfao
@@vice.nor.virtue lol I'm just saying
@@platonicbuu7454 Dude, i'm embarassed that I have to spell this out to you, but my commendation is how the editor of this story assembled 50+ videos for our viewing enjoyment of sumo. On top of that it was just a well produced feature.
So _why_ would I want to spend precious hours mining youtube for old content on a sport that I know very little about, and care very little of, when I could just watch this one VICE feature? SMH
Have you ever watched news coverage of anything historic in your life?
@@vice.nor.virtue wow.. you took that pretty fkns seriously lmfao
But on a serious note abuse is always unacceptable.
But on a serious note, stop pointing out the obvious.
So is virtue signaling.
Tell that to the katana
Kodai seemed like a really good soul!
If I knew that person being interviewed and saw this video it wouldn’t be hard to figure out who it is. Great job at keeping him anonymous 👍
The most distinguishing thing I saw was his eye and hair cut. Which is really a vary traditional Japanese haircut. And believe me VICE has done way worse when it comes to concealing identities.
@@Kyjohnson1500 yeah I mean you could kinda make out what his face looked vice need to do better
@@whatdoyoumean7427 he's a stand in. not the real guy in the video
@@katut3388 should hope so
sumo is cool because if you were paying attention to it, in the last 10-15 years, you just witnessed the Michael Jordan or Babe Ruth of the sport during the prime of his life.. Hakuhō Shō recently retired but he just completed what is arguably the greatest professional sumo career in history.. search for some of his matches you won't be disappointed
He’s Mongolian.
@@melissaroban1914 He's a Sumo wrestler
True! Hakuho the GOAT.
This journalist is so much better than the lady who covers the narco/South American drug topics. No vocal fry at all and she's a great interviewer
I had no idea it was this dangerous 🙁
your comments are everywhere wtf
@@hunterbidenscrackpipe69 nah you just have similar algorithms
That blur isn't good enough,
You about to get that man disappeared
Honestly i was abused throughout all of my school years by all of my teachers i just look back now and think wow those abusive nasty bstard teachers really did a number on me, Shouting at me, Telling me im a bad bad boy. Telling me ill end up on benefits when im older anyway. Sending me out of class all the time, locking me in a room at lunch detention rooms its no wonder im a mess, i trusted those teachers.
I'm sorry that happened to you. That was wrong. I hope you're doing well now. Keep your head up.
What is boils down to is paying your dues and gaining respect. Unfortunately, “tough love” is the norm in Sumo as well as other collectives. I can understand that they want to make sure whomever joins is dedicated and not wasting time. However, when violence and hazing (blood wings) is associated within these collectives; things will go wrong.
I'll never understand the popularity around sumo wrestling, but, I can appreciate their athleticism.
All rough sports, like cock fighting; are for gamblers.
Different strokes, I guess. I have been a passionate sumo fan since high school. I love the rituals, the tension, the action, and the rikishi themselves. It is one of my two favorite sports. On the other hand, there are sports that other people love to watch that I don't. I don't watch tennis, golf, or basketball.
@@LauraJdogmom what first attracted you to sumo? If you live in the west, its not something most people talk about.
@@moses4203 I lived in Japan for four years, about a million years ago. My dad was in the Air Force and was stationed at Yokota Air Base. I was in high school. I don't remember exactly when or why we started watching sumo, but we did. I found that I really, really enjoyed watching it. We went to the Kokugikan to watch live a couple of times, visited a stable, and attended an autograph session. At the time there was a Hawaiian wrestler, Takamiyama aka Jesse Kuhaulua, who was quite popular with Americans living in Japan, for obvious reasons. Getting into sumo was a way of engaging with Japanese culture, I guess. My sister and I both developed crushes on Takanohana (the Ozeki, not the Yokozuna, who was his son). He was known as the Prince of Sumo for his good looks.
Anyway. I find sumo to be a great spectator sport. The matches are brief, but exciting, and there are lots of them. There are often great story lines: the up-and-comer versus the wily veteran, the college roommates who had a falling out, the guy who got demoted through injury and is clawing his way back, two great technicians facing off, the David versus the Goliath matches, and so on. I also love the tradition, ritual, and pageantry. In what other sport do the referees wear silk and double as calligraphers? What other athletes wear hair styles that go back to the samurai? Really, there is nothing else like professional sumo.
@@LauraJdogmom I can see you passionate, thanks for the detailed answer
I love the beginning. "They carry the weight of tradition" yep, literally so.
That dude was not anonymous enough, I don't get why they showed his eyes! The most identifying feature
I agree with you whole heartedly, Vice, you aren't taking anominity seriously enough. This person told a very specific story and you showed his hair, clearly, his skin color, his hair line, his approximate build and size, and worst of all you showed an HD closeup of his eyes, eye color, eyebrows, ear and type of nose. Anyone in this circle who would watch this video will easily identify him. I know you guys showed a part of him to give validity that he is who he says he is but you just showed far too much and I hope he doesn't get punished severely for speaking out due to your negligence.
It’s a stand in. They never use the actual dude
@@bmorebob6624 and you know this how ?
You dont have to make it appear so scary like a conspiracy. We have the same type of stuff here in america..
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They're a for-profit business, I'd say that's why they have to sensationalize it, without those clicks there won't be anymore videos and without baiting people like you or I there won't be enough clicks
@@pissiole5654 they get money from the feds for spreading propaganda though
The black and white oldie Sumo guys in the oldie videos were pretty buff
Sorry but can we all just take a moment to appreciate the reporter’s perfect horse stance and squat
Thank you for doing this show. Sumo was my grandfather's favorite sport by far. I still have his playbill/catalogs i dont know how to translate the thing but it is or was Japan's most popular sport even in modern times. It's an interesting culture for people, who like me, are usually skinny af. Fascinating is the sumo culture.
estrogen boys with tits. They are not enthralled about their beat downs. Those same men are going to defend their Fat activities if they can win. I do not like how it goes. I like the spirit of this video. What are you trying to change? Bullying? Tell me how then, i'll join you. Elsewise, fist yoself.
11:16 Not sure whether this guy loves or hates them, but I am sure he has very strong feelings regarding hernias.
Nobody:
Vice: "Painting your walls could cause you to get paint on your walls"
The old footage shows a lot more smaller wrestlers than you have now.
those weren't professional wrestlers. the white training belt is reserved for high rank wrestlers and none of those guys have the required chonmage (hair). they're most likely a highschool club.
I know that the organization just send ex wrestlers into society without skills or money, but this abuse on the inside surprises me giving the ancient culture around the sport.. I shouldn’t be surprised tho
Training and violence are lumped together what a great sentence
That they actually have strict eating habits to say. It's good habits but strict to say. I wanna try this traditionL soup that they eat. It's got everything in it you can think of and it looks amazing. 😋 Chanko Nabe it's actually called. ❤️
I used to watch Sumo wrestling all the time when I lived in Germany. For some reason it and bullfighting were always on TV.
So the referee wears a sword so that if he makes a bad call during a match, he can commit suicide with it. One time a referee made a bad call during a match that was overridden by a group of judges watching the match and I was like “Is he going to do it???”
Real ones know this is a re-upload
Yes it is. Very old video
When you're secretly watching a vid near your family at low volume but the guy on TH-cam does this...11:18
i'm always impressed with vice's level of presentation on every topic.
I hear in the USA for the UFC they use violence to train. Absolutely unacceptable. MMA needs to change its culture and not use violence to teach. Totally unnecessary. You don’t need to punch people in the face to learn how to punch people in the face.
You really think those guys would accept a punch to their face by some trainer? Get out of here lying bastard
You know nothing about mma
@@dnid_ballin9537 facts
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@@dnid_ballin9537 @sorin you guys know nothing about sarcasm🤣
Sumo Stew on youtube is a solid source for anything sumo 😎
Street performer seemed like a great humble guy.
Bruh… that’s the worst blur in history. You can make out every detail of him
Kodai's sumo rap was fire! 🔥 Can anyone recommend more rap in a similar style?
NHK got me into sumo . Never thought it would be something I'd get into but after you watch a Lil guy dominate an opponent 3 times their size I was hooked
I was the same always check out NHK’s grand sumo summary videos on facebook. Think people don’t understand the skills involved and just see big dudes pushing each other.
#teamEnho
He requested anonymity.... and now, here are a few flavor shots plus a face shot that wasn't blurry enough because shot plan
Vice this a reupload right?
Oh yeah it is.
Abuse is extremely prevalent in traditional martial arts schools. This is as surprising as sugar tasting sweet.
I can confirm similar things would happen back when I was involved. One evening in particular a young man was slapped over and over, repeatedly, so fast I couldn't count all the hits, until he flew back landing on his back on the floor of the bathhouse. After that day I decided to leave and become an astronaut instead of pursuing my sumo career any longer.
Same
Salute
I hope and pray that Sumo Wrestling keeps alive in Japanese Culture, hope the violence within training by disciplinary ways are changed
At 9:35 I didn't realize how loud my volume was on my phone. My roommates gotta be wondering wtf I'm watching lol.
Edit: 11:28 welp, there he goes again.
Sumo is amazing I'm a big fan. I hope it moves forward like other combat sports. Check out Chris sumo on TH-cam. Wicked cool channel
i love that channel!
Yama is a world record holder and just created a channel
Am addicted to vice's documentaries
12:56 that was seriously funny. When they panned out the camera and there was the police "you're causing a disturbance. And wear some clothes." 😁
Am I understanding this correctly, the “coaches” for lack of a better term beat their wrestlers when they mess up so they’ll learn? Am I getting that correctly?
Sure bud
So long it doesn't bring you to the hospital or cause death when you're training in the martial arts . For combat or combat sports, expect that to happen. This is NOT ballet, it's combat although be it it comes out of sport like sumo but sumo originally was for combat in the military if history serves me right about Japan.
I love the street sumo, he is awesome
Really interesting documentary
Re-upload for timing, bc there's a sumo tournament going on right now (Sept. 2022). Probably also to scrub off the comments from sumo fans about the strategic use of long- outdated stories to cast the angle.
Talk to Tochinoshin, he is a Georgian(the country) wrestler that was beat with a golf club for breaking curfew.
The fact that we get free videos on TH-cam by VICE is truly a gift. 🤚
13:48 - This guy is fucking ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍
Sanctuary got me hooked 👑
Fantastic news Vice great video 👏👏👏✌️
I saw 3 sumo guys in pride F. C. A Sumo guy vs Royce Gracie, Bob Sap vs another sumo guy .Fedor vs Zuzulino, Don Fry vs another sumo guy and another sumo guy trying with his beautiful, amazing martial art till the end of the world and apocalypse 🔥
Cool story bro
Akebono vs Royce … Hawaiian Yokozuna
Awesome street performer! That smiler and charisma!
I think they just thought it'd be cool to see giant people try to knock each other over, it's kind of like fencing in that it's a sport rather than a fight to just knock some one out like boxing, even MMA they say is restricted because there's a lot of restrictions of things you can do in the street but it's not so unique and niche like sumo and fencing. And plus it's so cool
Sumo is bad ass.
Those fighters are pretty heavyweight.
Meh
This has such a low vibration it’s unbearable. The vibe is utterly depressing. This gets you to the sunken place. When will you start making a show about winners!? All this mustard drenched misery.
1:23 This is how ancient Japanese farmers plowed and planted their fields before the advent of the moldboard plow
lol 🤣
The street Sumo guy belongs in Hollywood
Tradition should never be used as an excuse to "ok" abuse! Especially in the modern day, weather in sumo culture, the geisha/maiko culture, the martial arts culture, religious culter ECT, ... world wide the hiding abouse behind "tradition" must stop!
I've been a fan of Sumo since the 90s and am a retired Marine.
When I went into boot camp in 2000, I fully expected to be physically abused, which I was.
But I stuck it out, became numb to the pain, and kept the discipline to keep improving and moving forward. Not letting them break me, and proving that I had what it took to be there.
Sumo is not much different. Pain makes you stronger if you embrace it and understand that it's a necessary conditioning for what you may face in combat.
"That which does not k*ll us makes us stronger."
Very few have the mental resolve to learn to love pain and let it temper you like steel. Once you can achieve that, nothing can break you.
Whoever is reading this, i pray that whatever you’re going through gets better and whatever you’re struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Thanks
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cheers, you too!
Thank you, robot.
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Beating someone up is never a justifiable action and the one receiving the whooping is not to blame for another's violent outburst.
I think the Yakuza have or had a HUGE part in a lot of this violence. It just wouldn't surprise me in the least. Because they certainly have there hands in pro wrestling or Puroresu. That's been documented quite a bit.
Sumo - I need anonymity
Vice - Yes
@vice why are you reposting old content? this is a few years old
Hello Vice. Please take the time to use a voiceover during interviews. Your content is great, but it’s frustrating to be forced to stop whatever I am doing, in order to read subtitles. The native dialogue doesn’t add anything to your story/video.
2:50 thank you for showing who it is even tho he said he diddnt want to be seen. not all asians look the same we can see who it is just by the corner of his face...
I loved this shirt documentary. However, I'd like to know who 'Hernia' is 👀
Is this a reupload? feel ive seen the interviews before
@@dieselbaby Thank you, thought i was trippin haha
Cops harassing the guy on the street. Pffft! He's just trying to make a living. You'd think they'd be used to seeing him.
The street sumo guy should be a frontman for a band he's got that energy for one lol
Nice re-upload.
You can never eliminate the inherent violence of an inherently violent sport/way of life. However, that doesn’t mean you must sacrifice the bodies of young men at the altar of tradition. They will simply search for fame, glory, and most importantly, money at the easier sports.
I swear I watched this same video from Vice a couple months back. Are they recycling content these days?
It also exists under the title, "The Dark Side of Sumo Wrestling" or something like that. It's the exact same video.
This kind of thing happens in many Martial Arts. It’s a form of conditioning but it’s misinterpreted, misunderstood and used and abused by many. The conditioning is essential but you should only except it from a professional Teacher that you can trust and won’t abuse your trust.
What an awesome doc!
That hernia jam lmfao he needs to record that song
This isn’t just sumo. Discipline, education and training consisted of violence during the Showa era in every aspect. Whether that was from your teacher, senpais, school sports teams, cram schools, from your parents etc. It was only in the 90s when it started to calm down due to strict policies.
Man.. Vice keep posting repeats..
Zastanawiające jest brak podziału na wagę ciała zawodników sumo. We wszystkich innych sportach walki i silowych taki podzial istnieje. Istnieje też tak zeana lkategoria openn .