Youre technically not even supposed to see it happen, since in a match it'll always be accompanied by an animation and hit effect explosion. But yeahh lol
I just realized his gi gets torn when he enters heat mode and stays that way for the rest of the fight, just like when he fought Kazuya in T7. Neat detail.
So his new stance is roughly translated as War state. You can only activate it once you get his 3 emblems/powerup things and can only activate once per match. (NOT rounds)
@@thejoekage9499reina has one too, but my friend who watched the dev talk said hei has a mist step now so that should be pewgf but it could just be hearsay
@@thejoekage9499Attack is 11 frames, normal electric input takes at least 3 frames, this unique input takes at least 2 frames, just like Kaz. This is a 13 frame PEWGF, that’s that edit: nvm I might be wrong I’ll have to actually look into it later edit 2: Luckily it seems I was right, the more 13 frame launchers the better amirite
@@MyNutsItch-k9syou realise this character is Kazuya/Brian difficulty level of performance? Being broken comes with a price of being VERY VERY HARD to play this chars
@@dokuroraidaaa748 to be fair he had a stance in t7 they just beefed it up like raven. at first it wasn't much used except combos but now they added mix ups but yeah i agree they shouldn't have given him more. also stop giving old characters stances that dont need them. it also might be that they are running out of buttons
Heihachi looks kinda husky now. Anyway as far as core kit he seems mostly unchanged, which is good. He has more stance stuff but that doesn't look like it changes a lot of his general approach. I guess he did lose having a standing mid homing move but being able to launch punish -15 WS is a big upgrade.
He's had *a* stance, and it wasn't one that he was able to use coming out of an attack. It was literally just a stance (you go into it manually then perform an action rather than making it an option to use to cause an opponent further grief once you've hit them with an attack). The stances also offer new ways to tempt an opponent to crouch that doesn't rely on bad lows (due to both of them having unbreakable throws), so that's a new edge he's never had before.
Headbutt leaves them crouching so you need a mid to get guaranteed damage. Gawd imagine if you were punishing stuff at -12 with a PEWGF combo on normal hit. You do get a -12 launch with headbutt if Warrior Instinct is on but that still relies on immediately going into a Tornado from it (f+1+2, d/f+2,1[T!]). Otherwise all you can do are Heat Engagers.
His bb3+4 is now heat only His reversal is heat only His qcf grab is now in a stance His uf3,4 is also stance I was hoping bb3+4 and reversal doesnt require heat. Also was hoping uf3,4 and qcf grab to not be in a stance.
I'm sorry, is his headbutt +14 forcing crouch? Isn't that the same properties his f4 had in T7 on CH? I hope these are not "real" frames, cause he's get df1,2 guaranteed from this, that's insane
so heihachi has an 11, 12, multiple 13f, 14f, and 15f punish now. he no longer needs to do ewgf punish anymore unless for the most optimal. Biggest is the fact that he has a 14f and 15f punish now that are both worth using. he also has a 15f ws launcher as well. Uf21 is no longer a sidestep move, it's now just a simple input and now heihachi has a genuine low ( db3) 10 dmg and -2 on hit; That's the craziest fucking thing about this character. Heihachi is a genuine dlc character.
Honestly not even mad I saw the trailer and was like this looks like a playable boss character and its hella dope maybe gonna be a nightmare to play against though
F1+2 (at 4:24) is is a 12 frame thats +14 on hit that gives a guaranteed follow up (going off the frame data here and trailer where he punished lee's hitman,2)? That is a crazy punish, we'll have to see what the range on the move is but it looks like its decent which is cool cuz that move had no range in t7.
Honestly people's takes on this are awful. If he got zero new stuff everyone would cry, his character has evolved and that's expected. Balancing is a different issue and we shall see how it plays out. He has been adapted to fit the current game and weather you like the current game or not that is exactly what they were going to do.
@@yoyo-co3tx 6:52 The pushback looks like it's back to the way it functioned in tag 2 and Tekken 6. You couldn't do a combo starter with it in those games.
Maybe it's back to being -9 on block, which would have been unacceptable for a launcher like that on T8. If that's the case though, it now fills its own niche as a safe evasive mid, that would be pretty cool. With the needed demon upper nerfs, we'll use ff3 as the go-to mid launcher now, it'll be fine. Also let's not forget wall bounds are a thing on T8, so OTGF can still lead to a full combo, it's just a more specific tool now. Even if it's -10, I like this change a lot, it's way cooler.
You go into heat 3 times, then you activate it with 1+4 and, for the whole round, you're basically a boss character: notably, hellsweep doesn't stagger on block anymore, and ff3 (which is a mid launcher) becomes + on block. You lose the power-up for good after that round though.
finally a mishima that has a spam b.s 50/50 that can launch safe i will dropp devil jin and kazuya scrub for this old man.. and by the way i long dropped both of them at the last season of tekken 7 i switched to heihachi because devil jin and kazuya are too unsafe and have no good mid counter hit launchers..
aight there is ONE thing that is ass and dont why they nerfed it. Blue Spark Thunder fist. It used to launch for combos and now they decided that it shouldn't? I do not understand why, as it wasn't that easy to do anyway, and in a combo you would use it 2 or sometimes even 3 times. And it did hella lot dmg. Like at least it required skill to do🤷
that is his signature. that would force opponent to always stand guard. it would be a mistake to duck heihachi. we can elaborate on that as heihachi players.
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1:45 watching his biceps balloon when he gets heat is real goofy
Lmaoo
Youre technically not even supposed to see it happen, since in a match it'll always be accompanied by an animation and hit effect explosion. But yeahh lol
this is nothing, it's much more visible on feng
It's nothing compared to SFV Guile though.
-d+1+2 stance
-transitions to some moves
-can do crouch dash and can (probably) do cancels
welcome home, tekken 7 jin
Old Jin
2:48 he still have it 😆
I used to say in one video that make it a heat move and it actually a heat move LMAOO
I didn't get it... This move completely eats the rest of your heat??
@@stanislavchugunov probably a free armored escape move?
Ffs it eats heat away. I used to have fun with this move
@@stanislavchugunov yea wtf
kinda wished hei says "SORIYA" when he does a perfect omen and qcf 2 like in prior games
Just mod your lil voice clips in.
Modding fighting games is for cheaters and coomers
The SFX on his moves are so satisfying
I just realized his gi gets torn when he enters heat mode and stays that way for the rest of the fight, just like when he fought Kazuya in T7. Neat detail.
So his new stance is roughly translated as War state. You can only activate it once you get his 3 emblems/powerup things and can only activate once per match. (NOT rounds)
I think "Warrior's Instinct" is what they're calling. at least that's what I thought I heard Michael Murray say. :)
I saw some Akuma/Jinpachi moves out there hehe Heihachi gon be even more brutal😂
Which ones
@@HeartlessAngelSeventeenyou can see it in the new short he posted
6:58 YESSSS HE FINALLY HAS PEWGF!
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???
@@Deiryk he does not have a PEWGF that is kazuya only
@@thejoekage9499reina has one too, but my friend who watched the dev talk said hei has a mist step now so that should be pewgf but it could just be hearsay
@@thejoekage9499Attack is 11 frames, normal electric input takes at least 3 frames, this unique input takes at least 2 frames, just like Kaz. This is a 13 frame PEWGF, that’s that
edit: nvm I might be wrong I’ll have to actually look into it later
edit 2: Luckily it seems I was right, the more 13 frame launchers the better amirite
Lightning pole man Absorbed him some Devil's power through that Fist mark.
Hoping that this voice actor wont leave us too soon💔❣️
4:42 ain't that Akuma's Twin Pistons?
Man learned a thing or two.
Heihachi originally had a 13f twin pistons that launch. He just relearned it.
i miss the " Suriyaaaa "
That’s the coolest grandpa right there
I think Jin would disagree. 😂
At least people can’t complain about one button combos when it comes to him .
Yeah but people can complain about any other fucking move that's broken, what don't you get?
@@MyNutsItch-k9syou realise this character is Kazuya/Brian difficulty level of performance? Being broken comes with a price of being VERY VERY HARD to play this chars
@@MyNutsItch-k9s meanwhile people will use the most broken characters then complain about others being broken out of hypocrisy.
That’s not true. He can mash 1 after f3 to get free combo filler
Crazy muscle physics
Costume 3 is dope. Should be his default
They turned him into a lars lidia hybrid. Ouch.
Not really, his stances aren't automatic. It's more like he's taken some stuff from Reina and Jin.
I'm all against the stance-ification of Tekken characters, but this is a such a double digit IQ take
@@dokuroraidaaa748 I meant lars mostly in like how much glue he eats
@@dokuroraidaaa748 to be fair he had a stance in t7 they just beefed it up like raven. at first it wasn't much used except combos but now they added mix ups but yeah i agree they shouldn't have given him more. also stop giving old characters stances that dont need them. it also might be that they are running out of buttons
you guys are just saying things lol
Heihachi: Domain Expansion, Raijin Thunder God Fist!!
Look at Heihachi's muscles when he's in heat mode. Plus his beads are gone. Nice detail 👍
Heihachi looks kinda husky now.
Anyway as far as core kit he seems mostly unchanged, which is good. He has more stance stuff but that doesn't look like it changes a lot of his general approach.
I guess he did lose having a standing mid homing move but being able to launch punish -15 WS is a big upgrade.
Feels like Heihachi trained with akuma and learned street fighter stances
That stance god fist reminds me of Jinpachi
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"He has stances now like lidia"
Mans always had a stance Tf? 😅
not viable or real mixups on block from those stances.
He's had *a* stance, and it wasn't one that he was able to use coming out of an attack. It was literally just a stance (you go into it manually then perform an action rather than making it an option to use to cause an opponent further grief once you've hit them with an attack). The stances also offer new ways to tempt an opponent to crouch that doesn't rely on bad lows (due to both of them having unbreakable throws), so that's a new edge he's never had before.
Cant believe that i practice omen combo for 2 months straight just to be met with this 6:52
Can't wait for Akuma release 😍😍😍
So he has a PEWGF with 1 frame leniency atter chrome dome headbutt, nice.
headbutt probably only has mid followups, so no
Headbutt leaves them crouching so you need a mid to get guaranteed damage.
Gawd imagine if you were punishing stuff at -12 with a PEWGF combo on normal hit. You do get a -12 launch with headbutt if Warrior Instinct is on but that still relies on immediately going into a Tornado from it (f+1+2, d/f+2,1[T!]). Otherwise all you can do are Heat Engagers.
His electrics should've been blue
I agree on this.
No. Kazuyas is blue , his is usually white or yellow. Idk why they changed it
Its a mixture of orange and blue
Light blue
His electrics was Yellow or light-blue, I think its a combination on both
His bb3+4 is now heat only
His reversal is heat only
His qcf grab is now in a stance
His uf3,4 is also stance
I was hoping bb3+4 and reversal doesnt require heat.
Also was hoping uf3,4 and qcf grab to not be in a stance.
4:39 Seems like he still has DF1,2 wallsplat basically, but it's a just frame/install kinda thing.
Yeah ! This is cool af !! Can’t wait to play him and having fun against idiots that love to crouch for no reason 😂
JDCR's been waiting for this
I'm sorry but he sounds like Ganryu or Akuma now
They had no Choice old voice actor Passed away
not we can do much since the prevoice actor, pass away 😢😢
@@Deiryk I know
His classic DB2 « HACHI » sounds sooo lame now
funnily enough, the VA voices Bison in SF6
4:22 that's insane move 12f with +14 on hit
I suspect it's still like in T7, meaning its range is so unbelievably shitty (missing at point-blank all the time) that you'll never use it.
I wonder if he secretly has kept his other two 10 hit combos from tekken 7. I also wonder if he has augur secret taunt like reina does…
Flash punch wallsplat babyyyu
I so much miss the former VA (rip), but I think the new one still did a damn GREAT job whit Hei
His heat moves are so versitile than others like Steve.
His stances look sidestepable, thank god
homing unbreakable throw, and it's likely not every move can be stepped to the same side on block
Whats the rage art sound effects name ?
Pls
Df 2,1 beeing a 13 frame launcher with install is pretty nuts
yeah he looks wild. like the best t8 dlc character so far. likely will be nerfed to the ground when the next character releases
What is install?
I'm sorry, is his headbutt +14 forcing crouch? Isn't that the same properties his f4 had in T7 on CH? I hope these are not "real" frames, cause he's get df1,2 guaranteed from this, that's insane
It's exactly like this.
so heihachi has an 11, 12, multiple 13f, 14f, and 15f punish now. he no longer needs to do ewgf punish anymore unless for the most optimal. Biggest is the fact that he has a 14f and 15f punish now that are both worth using. he also has a 15f ws launcher as well. Uf21 is no longer a sidestep move, it's now just a simple input and now heihachi has a genuine low ( db3) 10 dmg and -2 on hit; That's the craziest fucking thing about this character. Heihachi is a genuine dlc character.
Honestly not even mad I saw the trailer and was like this looks like a playable boss character and its hella dope maybe gonna be a nightmare to play against though
Holy shit he's going to be a beast
When you activate heat engager it feels so out of character for heihachi running to his opponent, he should do wavedashes
Honest L for the Tekken team...missed a golden opportunity.
Guys! Is it released already??
Moves he should've had T7, Same w Kazuya😂
His electric is a 11 frame move 🤯
6:58
On the notes section it mentions f,n,d/f:2
Soooooo does that mean Hei has an i13 electric now?
Did anyone understood how his stack works ?
F1+2 (at 4:24) is is a 12 frame thats +14 on hit that gives a guaranteed follow up (going off the frame data here and trailer where he punished lee's hitman,2)? That is a crazy punish, we'll have to see what the range on the move is but it looks like its decent which is cool cuz that move had no range in t7.
So Hei gets to keep his cd4,4 while also getting a cool jumping kick, and Kaz loses his cd4,4 to get a cool jumping kick that is sh*t? Thanks Harada
Your pfp already tells the story...
4:45😂😂
Free combo
6:36 Damn they really gave him a 15 Frame FC launcher?
Honestly people's takes on this are awful. If he got zero new stuff everyone would cry, his character has evolved and that's expected. Balancing is a different issue and we shall see how it plays out. He has been adapted to fit the current game and weather you like the current game or not that is exactly what they were going to do.
I miss the b,f+2 stuff but I think the new Just Frame release moves he has are an interesting substitute.
It’s crazy they basically gave him buffed versions of Lidias. Moves with extra hits and stronger knockback same thing with reinas moves too
No more Omen God fist combos? 😢😢
What makes you say that?
@@yoyo-co3tx 6:52 The pushback looks like it's back to the way it functioned in tag 2 and Tekken 6. You couldn't do a combo starter with it in those games.
Maybe it's back to being -9 on block, which would have been unacceptable for a launcher like that on T8. If that's the case though, it now fills its own niche as a safe evasive mid, that would be pretty cool.
With the needed demon upper nerfs, we'll use ff3 as the go-to mid launcher now, it'll be fine.
Also let's not forget wall bounds are a thing on T8, so OTGF can still lead to a full combo, it's just a more specific tool now. Even if it's -10, I like this change a lot, it's way cooler.
@@johnonyango3166oh i see
It’s sad to see otgf (omen thunder god fist) no longer be a launcher it’s actually the saddest part of this video
Still can be used midcombos i guess after ewgf
Good luck to JDCR's aging brain LOL! This Hei is soooo different now LOL!
anyone notice he has a stance that uses akumas moves?
What does his install do, and how is it stacked?
You go into heat 3 times, then you activate it with 1+4 and, for the whole round, you're basically a boss character: notably, hellsweep doesn't stagger on block anymore, and ff3 (which is a mid launcher) becomes + on block.
You lose the power-up for good after that round though.
finally a mishima that has a spam b.s 50/50 that can launch safe i will dropp devil jin and kazuya scrub for this old man.. and by the way i long dropped both of them at the last season of tekken 7 i switched to heihachi because devil jin and kazuya are too unsafe and have no good mid counter hit launchers..
Only in tekken 8 where otgf gets dumb down.
Doesn’t look like a launcher anymore
@@LatissimoTwinTurbo it's not
It’s not dumbed down, it’s still hard to do it just doesn’t launch and it makes up for it with the crazy damage the electric one does
Pretty sure otgf is only a launcher in t7, it was never a launcher on prior games. They reverted it back
@@effartolacobo6742 it was. In tekken 4 and 5 hei could
They gave heihachi an install, its so over
We are so back
Whos we ? Long time hehachi fan and him being turned into dlc scrub button is not what I wanted
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 too bad, stick with T7 and the past. everyone got dumbed down in T8, take it or cope.
aight there is ONE thing that is ass and dont why they nerfed it. Blue Spark Thunder fist. It used to launch for combos and now they decided that it shouldn't? I do not understand why, as it wasn't that easy to do anyway, and in a combo you would use it 2 or sometimes even 3 times. And it did hella lot dmg. Like at least it required skill to do🤷
How minus is ewgf on block?
I wonder what zafina calls him
daddy
He does transform sort of
Did they remove OTGF
Yes. You can still input it but it doesnt launch anymore. It sends them away too much
@@Corleone300 awwww I mastered the blue spark OTGF and then they remove it
Why can't we just let heihachi have an omen that lanches
How he get dlc early ?
So, he has a pewgf now.
lidia + reina = heiachi
I feel like it’s more kazuya+reina. Since he only really has 2 stances
? is he able to play allrdy????
I wil enjoy fighting against him : I just hate fighting eddy and king😂
8:23 heihachi copying lee chaolan misstep????
Great now we have Reina as a grandpa. I‘ll stick with Reina.
Why does he get to choose to go into stance yet, Lidia can't. Other than that he looks fun
Broken toy out of stance only???
Looks it 😢
Heihachi has more karate than Lydia
Ouch
13f electric is just a bad choice thematically
He also has death fist ?
he has paul and bryan moves lol
Wait Harada gave him a counter?
Only because it’s heihachi it looks amazing on other charecters I would say it’s bs
He doesn't have the 2, and 1 non-generic throws anymore without heat?
So it seems, but they are unbreakable now
They gave bro yoshi spin 😂
he's always had that tho, whatchu on about
@@SirChikenVII ig I just never seen it used
@@championreddU never saw his hellsweep ?? U sure you watched even a full match ?
@@mathiasprudhomme6495 not talking about hell sweep bot “did you even watch a full match”🤓
Harada told the truth, Heihachi is completely dead. THAT IS NOT HEIHACHI!
Everyone cry about it and don't lab against him so i can get GoD Rank faster.
Nothing but mids my goodness
that is his signature. that would force opponent to always stand guard. it would be a mistake to duck heihachi.
we can elaborate on that as heihachi players.
In previous tekken he always have good high and mids but bad lows, at least they kept it this way lol
His d4 better be flawless lol
HARA
I’m sorry bruh, Heihachi lightning > every other Mishima
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Feng wei could have save heiachi
Corruption
LOL. db2 is i23. Good luck reacting to that online.
Always has been
exactly the same properties and damage as in 7.
I guess regular heihachi does low damage, but ultimate hei goes ham
Bye bye omen
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What the fk is all this heat shit?