Something else from that beacon of journalistic integrity, Sixty Minutes. Has anyone seen the footage from the report "A Mother's Burden" that shows an SAS man practising his shooting in an indoor range? See it here, GRAPHIC VIDEO - Port Arthur Massacre from about 20:30. He's wearing ear muffs. It can be reasonable inferred they were to protect his hearing. Compare that scene with what we're supposed to believe about the PAM. Massacre survivors were deaf for weeks afterwards. No-one said the gunman in the Broad Arrow Café/ Visitors' Centre was wearing ear muffs. Martin Bryant's hearing was not impaired when he was arrested. For that reason, he could not be the gunman. I can't post this information in the comments section of Port Arthur Massacre 1996 Part 1 of 2, which is the most-watched Port Arthur Massacre video according to the viewcount provided by TH-cam. It must be something they don't want people to discuss. I wonder if there's anything about any Tasmania Police officers on sick leave for a few weeks from the end of April 1996. How was Benjamin Overbeeke's hearing at the time? I expect he was well-compensated for a few weeks' inconvenience. Maybe someone should do a little FOI?
Brigadier Ted Serong, former head of Australian forces in Vietnam- "Whoever did it is better than I am, and there are not too many people around here better than I am." The shooter in the Broad Arrow Café at Port Arthur demonstrated all of the qualities of a trained counterterrorist marksman but made no amateur mistakes. Always in motion and point shooting from the right hip with devastating accuracy he killed twenty of the occupants with single shots to the head.
Please. They were all in close quarters, not that difficult. If the victims were scattered around a large field this would be a valid point, but as it was it was fish in a barrel.
If it is true that he fired 29 rounds in a reported 15 sec for 20 head-shot kills and 12 injuries whilst shooting from the hip in the Broad Arrow cafe,then all I have to say is that Bryant must have been practicing for 8 hours per day for a bloody long time, firing THOUSANDS of practice rounds. Because that is phenomenal marksmanship with a semi-auto rifle....There would be relatively few special forces operatives in the world who could achieve that accuracy for that kill/injury ratio. So who did he get the practice ammo from and where did he fire those thousands of rounds. Plus it seems very strange that he could exhibit such amazing marksmanship in the cafe, but at Seascape he is reported to have fired about 250 rounds at police and hit no one ! Maybe it is because as "Jamie" he was holding the phone talking to the negotiator while shooting...oh no thats right those gun shots we hear were officially called "coughs"made by the negotiator....LMAO he ought to get a job doing sound effects then because they were perfect gun shot noises.
Anyone would think the establishment is dead afraid of the whole Port Arthur story these days. Here's a mini book review some might find interesting. In "Notorious Australians the Mad, the Bad and the Dangerous", by Toby Geswell (ABC Books, 2008) Martin Bryant and Port Arthur are mentioned how many times? NONE. The person reputed to be the most notorious mass murderer in Australian history is not mentioned even once in a book in which you'd expect him to figure prominently. Why not?
Pat the authorities on the back! Martin Bryant was a copycat. No one paid him the attention he felt he deserved. Inspired by the Dunblane School massacre and due to the massive media-attention of that perp... Columbine also got massive attention and almost every school shooter since has cited Harris an Klebold as their inspirations. Port Arthur or Martin Bryant has not inspired any massacre, mostly due to the fact that authorities silenced it down and chose not to give the deed a lot of attention. And that's how ALL massacres should be handled imo.
mjollner23 So the "authorities" wrote the book I referred to, did they? Who knows. maybe they did, in the sense that the ABC would never publish anything that challenged the official story about Port Arthur, because they're part of the establishment. If you want to talk about media not giving him publicity, look no further than the national flagship newspaper of the so-called quality press. The Australian had a doctored photo of Martin Bryant, his name and identifying details and the caption "The Killer" on the front page on 30/4/1996. Other media were no better. The police never did a thing. Why did Paul Kelly and others responsible for this criminal contempt of court not go to prison? If he WAS guilty, the media gave him just the sort of publicity he would have wanted and just the sort of publicity that could have encouraged a copycat. Bot of course he wasn't, and when they finished playing the tragedy like a fiddle, they dropped it and the many questions surrounding it like a hot potato.
TheDamiandemos Come to0 think of it, I may have judged the ABC a bit too harshly-just a tiny bit. There's supposed to be a Four Corners Doco about Port Arthur that was never aired. FOI, anyone? But other than that, there's a bit of pissweak probing into why the emergency exit at the Visitors Centre was jammed by Kerry O'Brien and The Seven-Thirty Report. O"Brien built his career ion making sure he only went just deep enough. Stuart Littlemore and MediaWatch did some reasonably good work about Martin Bryant's trial by media. Kerry O'Brien had a brilliant careerin the following years at the ABC, Littlemore not so much. He could be a wanker at times but he had a thousand times more integrity than O'Brien.
Some intelligent comments and perspectives from people on the comment section that have obviously done their research. This interview with the featherstones does not sit well with me and there are some contradictions that make me question their credibility. When I researched Port Arthur over 10 years ago I read a story from a journalist that covered a woman police officer in England being shot from an embassy window. That journalist took an interest in Port Arthur massacre and highlighted all the flaws in the official story. The clincher for me is that slimy Little John Howard locked away all records of Port Arthur for over 100 years. THAT in itself tells the truth of a cover up. The truth will always prevail despite the government and media doing their best to engineer your perceptions.
Professor you described the cafe scene only moment before the first round was fired perfectly. There had to been two gun men involved and one of them was inside waiting for the order (key word) to sweep his side of the room.You can only imagine the carnage, the element of surprise, speed, accuracy, recalculation of targets,list goes on. They had no chance!. It was over in seconds. What most cant comprehend is all their kills were headshots.Now imagine Martin Bryant doing it -"It Doesnt Fit"
People treat retarded people badly so there's no wonder why Martin would tell people to get off his property. If Martin wanted a killing spree I think he'd have just gone next door to start with.
You just said you could use a gun properly. Anyone can shoot a gun, just like anyone can drive a car, but to do it with that level of skill is something else.
& wounded twelve more firing a total of only 29 rounds. Using known techniques reported by witnesses he ensured his own safety from attack by turning on the spot and staying outside grappling range. It was an awesome display of expertise, even by special forces standards" According to eyewitness & victim Neville Quin "He [the gunman] appeared to be the best-trained army guy I've ever seen his stance was unbelievable" Im not making wild accusations as to who did this but somethin doesnt add up
The average pig has a higher IQ than the average person and make the most loyal and intelligent pets/friends. I sleep with my dog - that does not make me potentially dangerous. If the Featherston's were on my property - I would probably tell them to F.O. too. They have no forensic knowledge and dead animals hanging off their walls - They are the ones who seem dangerous. How dare they portray someone loving an animal as psychotic - How could anyone believe people so uneducated.
I dont care if he slept inside with animals. That's not a crime. It has nothing to do with Port Arthur. I don't care if he threatened anyone. Bryant didn't kill anyone. If you think he did then find video of him killing anyone.
its the people who survived the massacre who are calling for the massacre to be investigated check this utube video - Port Arthur Massacre - Deciet Or Terrorism?(Edited from the original
They have many cctv footage of him doing it. My Aunty was at the service station when he arrived and killed a lady and took her car, she called the police and there is CCTV of that. There is camera footage online you just need to find it. How can anyone say he didn’t do it unless they were actually there? Know one knows but the people who were there and then people don’t believe them. So it doesn’t really matter anyway,
@Jackson Bourke they have it’s locked away. People have it as well, not hard today find. He’s not innocent like 50 people say he did it and he admitted to doing it. Find the old shows and docs and u will see.
@@christianremmer No there is an American man filming Martin Bryant when he was shooting people around the buses. He did it and you know that. Stop it already.
Where did they find these people who all knew M. Bryant so well and could anticipate every thing about him - They are nauseating. Any Gov. should have nothing to fear with people having guns - If that Gov. is beloved of it's people.
Martin Bryant unfortunately had shortish hair on the day of the attack He was also in the same ward as many of the injured but nobody recognised him as the "shooter" ??????
@RedDwarfts - high neck shots and shot in the face are classified as head shots! From what I saw in the police training video I see nearly all, except for one with headshots. Hence why I said what I said! It's impossible for a intellectually challenge man with aspergers with attention span of a goldfish to produce skills of a professional combat marksman that is emotionally detached killed 20 people in less than a minute!
read the body language, fabricated, scripted and staged. Any 2 year old can see through the poor acting, i mean ther is not one part where any emotion is shown by either of these pathetic creatures. This entire interview is an insult to any viewers intelligence and cordially addresses any one who gets past the first sentence as fools.. This staged fabrication of lies is incorrigible and disgusting obviously these people lacka any integrity or intelligence.
apparently he is supposed to be a retired Victorian detective ( ive seen no proof of this other then being expected to take his word for it because he said it in a video ) who was not at port arthur nor even the state of tasmania at the time of the shootings , who has made a little money off of the subject but gone strangely quiet And to my knowledge has not said anything at all in recent years. Andrew Mcgregor.
@ProfessorTiNfOiL - Yesterday I was asked to view a video which was the Police Training video of Port Arthur, nothing more said to me, but watch. I also served with the ADF in the infantry between 92 to 2000 and like everything you said is excatly spot on. Once you have served your mind is much broader and you know when you see something like the Cafe and it looks like (is) a counter terrrorism training op in a kill house.You know the answer, cause there is no other way to look at it.
Are these people related to the gunshop owner who sold Victoria Police the AR15 apparently used in the massacre-his name was Featherstone too? Small world if they are...
I recommend a grain of salt be taken with anything out of the old Australian Consolidated Press. Digitally manipulating content was their speciality. No-one remembers when they outright lied to viewers about their magazine division 'never' retouching images?
i grew up knowing these people and there two children. i know that the daughter was sexually abused as a young girl by a man living near there house and im damn sure it wasnt martin bryant who abused her. she never told her father about the abuse. so the footprints and man stalking there house wasnt bryant but was the peadophile after his daughter.
The last part said that Martin Bryant had an obsession with firearms. He didn't. He only owned the guns recently before the massacre. When people searched his home (expected a display of perversion) they only found that he had a huge collection of Disney movies and over 200 teddy bears. Quite honestly put, if Martin Bryant was so utterly evil and threatened so many people and even shot at them with air rifles, then why wasn't he arrested? They certainly had grounds for it.
@MilitiaHQ People were caught completely by suprise , and shot at very close distance as they hudled under tables / chairs / behind doors and lying ontop of their loved ones . Many of the victims were hit from so close they had powder burns on their bodies and the 5.56mm round passed through multiple people.
Just an interesting point. Everyone picking up on his body language here, John Featherstone says. "I went out and bought a gun, that I knew that would equal what ever he had", "Yes because I heard shots, at different times." "Im going to get home and burn all me guns" Observe the shooting trophy's in the Featherstones home. If anyone had the marksmanship that Ive seen so far ummm guess who?. And this guy seemed to know too much about a lot about Martin at the farm house.
its been nearly 20 years I want to hear Martins side to the story... why he did it? (if he did it?) how come Jeffrey Dahmer,Ted Bundy,Ivan Milat and Charles Manson get/had media interviews but Bryant doesn't?
Because according to anti-gunners, playing paintball is basically training to fight real gun battles and is nothing more than training for criminals and terrorists.
Martin Bryant was most definitely GUILTY. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. ANYONE WHO THINKS HE DIDN'T, SHOULD ASK THE ONES STILL LIVING WHO SAW HIM DOING IT, AND ALIVE TO TELL YOU THEMSELVES, IT WAS HIM. THESE PEOPLE WILL LIVE WITH IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. PLEASE RESPECT THE ONES WHO STILL LIVE WITH THEIR WOUNDS FROM IT. HE PLEADED GUILTY.
I still fail to see how this makes the ridiculous gun laws Australia has necessary, you can get a gun illegally easily if you really want one. Most (I'd bet 99%) of gun crime in Australia would be illegal guns.
This guy is lying through his teeth. Probably had a problem with Martin and sees the opportunity to undermine him. When he started talking about believing Martin pulled on the wheel and cause the car crash, based on zero evidence, I knew he was full of it.
Strange he originally plead not guilty and was held in solitary confinement till he confessed to get a tv given to him no trial no corronial inquiry no inquest a big coverup strange to me
The show the classic signs of lying, however his opinion is interesting, cause if people where armed in port arthur he would have been stoped and lives would have been saved, martins weapons used like ak 47 and ar 15 where not legal anyway, so gun laws or any reference to gun control is erelavent in this case.. but per head of capita aus vs use shootings, stats speak for themselves on this one..
1-Bryant was seen arguing with the toll booth attentant about where to park right outside the broad arrow cafe shortly before the shooting 2- Brigid cook was one of the injured who saw Bryant and could id him 3- Bryant admits to killing people and hijacking the car and bungling people into the boot 4- Bryant is on the phone admitting to holding hostages , and the only survivor of seascape, 5-Bryant admitted owning the weapons and loved his sweet AR rifle Plenty more proving his guilt
Computer savvy gun owners always have the "nuclear option" available if things get a lot worse, eg if they ban lever-action long arms. The FAR's are already pretty inefficient and vulnerable so wouldn't it be a shame if they were to become totally useless from hacking?
now its the " highest 2 shooters " in the world ? These conspiracy followers of the PAM keep changing that line all the time , it keeps getting better and better LOL. Bryants victims were unarmed , sitting down at their tables , Bryant holding the rifle on his hip was level with the victims heads , many were shot at such close range that powder burns were left of the victims. Although making it sound like he was a " top 2 shooter in the world " just adds hype to the conspiracies you follow.
NO not at all. The fact there was no court case or proper inquiry is proof of a conspiracy. The fact Martin Bryant could not have made so may head shots in such a short time is proof of a conspiracy. The fact witnesses who SAW the shooter and said IT WAS NOT BRYANT and were not listened to is proof of a conspiracy. The fact there was no Coronial investigation is proof of a conspiracy. The fact we are told ` There were 20 killed 12 injured inside the cafe with 29 bullets is proof of a conspiracy. The fact they kept police half a hour away for over 5+ hours Because ` It was TOO DANGEROUS FOR POLICE ` is proof of a conspiracy. The fact they sent 2 women police officers OFF the BEAT in Hobart via Helicopter and not more senior more competent police officers for the situation is poof of a conspiracy. The Fact Bryant admitted to owning 3 guns and there were many many guns found at the site is proof of a conspiracy. June 1995. Press Release. Uniform national gun laws are drawn up in Canberra. A specially constructed morgue truck unlike anything else in Australia or perhaps the world, refrigerated and capable of carrying 22 bodies is delivered to the Southern Tasmanian Mortuary Service. It is used only once - at Port Arthur- then disposed of. Code Brown , a disaster emergency response plan, involving multiple casualties, is instigated at the RHH (Royal Hobart Hospital) Is proof of a conspiracy. The fact management of Port Arthur were sent away that morning at 11am to go to a meeting the next day, That had NEVER happened before in 18 known years and is proof of a conspiracy. 11am. 28th April,1996. Top ten managers of the Port Arthur site are evacuated in 3 government cars. Looks Like a Conspiracy to me ? November 1995 . Fact,Roland Browne, spokesman for the Tasmanian branch of the Coalition for Gun Control, warned all Australians that if Tasmania didn't enact tougher firearms laws then there would be a massacre in Tasmania of massive proportions. Evidence of a conspiracy. Fact, Ray Groome as Attorney General removed any claim by any worker or volunteer for compensation to overcome PTSD -( Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) from the Workers Compensation Act, the main injury resulting from the Port Arthur Massacre. Several of the victims have suicided since. Evidence of a conspiracy Fact, Coroners Act 1995 is introduced containing a new clause that any finding of any subsequent coroners inquest (which allows much more evidence than a normal court of law) must not conflict with or contradict the prior findings of the Supreme Court in the same case. John Howard illegally helped prevent a Coroners Inquest being called into the Port Arthur Massacre. Is evidence of a conspiracy. March 1996. The Fact. The warning is repeated - the spokesman for the national anti-gun lobby in Tasmania said there will be a massacre in Tasmania unless we get uniform gun laws. Is evidence of a conspiracy The Fact Ray Groome stood down as Premier voluntarily to take on the duties of Attorney-General, Justice Minister, Minister for Tourism, (Port Arthur is a tourist site), Minister for Workplace Standards and Minister responsible for the Port Arthur Site. All of which bore responsibility for Port Arthur and the aftermath of the massacre. IS Evidence of a Conspiracy. The fact Bryant was interviewed WITHOUT a lawyer and with the consent of his lawyer ,- What Lawyer says it is `OK` to speak to police without him there especially after a massacre, That is evidence of a conspiracy. 1pm. 28th April,1996. The Fact, A Seminar for trauma specialist doctors from all around Australia, involving response to a mass shooting, is completed at or very near to Hobart Hospital. A Conspiracy . . A Fact, All seventeen ambulance personnel are in attendance at Hobart Ambulance Headquarters, despite it being a Sunday. Three helicopters are available on this Sunday despite there being normally only one. Looks like a conspiracy to me. 1.24pm. Sunday 28th April ,1996. A Fact that The only reported police on duty within an hour of the Tasman Peninsular, both called out by radio from police headquarters in Hobart to attend at Saltwater river; 1/2 hour drive from Port Arthur, in relation to a first ever, supposed heroin cache, radio in their arrival. (the heroin cache turns out to be jars of soap powder) Evidence of a Conspiracy. 27-28th April 1996. A small unknown Fact, 700 journalists from 17 countries arrive for a conference beginning on 29th April in Hobart Tasmania. 80 are bussed to the PA site in a pre-booked coach. Evidence of a Conspiracy. The Israeli Connection. Another small little known Fact is that, The Israeli Mizraim is an elite group inside the Mossad who specialize is assassinations in the West Bank and elsewhere. They are trained to have no compulsion about shooting Goyim, ‘cattle’ which they regard gentiles to be. Of the six members of this group who are the top worldwide in their field three just happened to be holidaying in Tasmania at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre. A coincidence maybe ? Barrie Unsworth (NSW Premier at the time) let the cat out of the bag that the planning for the massacre was begun 10 years prior, when he emerged from a state and federal ministers conference in Hobart stating to the waiting media, that unless they get uniform national gun control - why? there would be a huge massacre in Tasmania. The SOG (Special Operations Group) within the Tasmanian Police responded to the massacre according to the SOG Manual prepared in accordance with the November 1995 (how convenient) Anti - Terrorist Plan drawn up by SACPAV (Standing Advisory Committee for Protection Against Violence) - under whose control the plan placed them. SACPAV is run by the Protective Security Co-ordination Centre in Canberra.. Their (SOG) main job on that and subsequent days was liaising with the media and attempting to shut up witnesses and suppress evidence. There is MORE MUCH MUCH MORE !! Now can you honestly say with a STRAIGHT FACE there is NO CONSPIRACY ?
Mick C. Great comment. Is it true the morgue truck was not only unprecedented in Tasmania, but anywere elae in Australia as well? It makes me wonder if there is a morgue truck of this capacity available anywhere in Australia even now, or if there was, when it was acquired. Because if there wasn't, that's only further proof of a conspiracy since why the hell would state with the smallest population need one? You wrote: *Ray Groome stood down as Premier voluntarily to take on the duties of Attorney-General, Justice Minister, Minister for Tourism, (Port Arthur is a tourist site), Minister for Workplace Standards and Minister responsible for the Port Arthur Site.* The way Groome did this reminds me of some town in the wild west where the one dude is the saloon keeper, barber, sheriff, judge, undertaker...especially undertaker. Oh well, it IS Tasmania. At least he wasn't the mayor; that would have really overcommitted him-the "mayor" or course being Tony Rundle. Damn them all.
Mick C. I dont have the time or energy to waste on someone who will dismiss every argument I give as something like "its the government wanting you to believe that" or "your another sheep" So a few things First he admitted he did it. Yes he was held in solitary for 6 months. But during the 6 months a evidence and a case was being mounted against him. Eventually his mother convinced him to admit guilty because it was so cut and dry and the victims had suffered enough without living it again. With this coronial inquiry everyone bangs on about as not happening it did happen, the purpose is to determine the cause and circumstances of death. They are located in numerous books. With the trial, there wasnt one because in Australian law when you plead guilty there is no need for one. You say THE FACT that Bryant couldnt make so many head shots. Based on what. Where are your references. He was in a small area the majority of those that got head shots were the elderly who were slow or those that were frozen in shock. He was very close to the victims. The fact that he owned 3 guns and many more were found, how many were found on scene. How do you know he had 3, did you go shopping with him when he bought them? If your comment was an essay it would be classed as a failure because you are claiming facts without any sort of refrence In documentarys survivors themselves say these conspiracy theories are bullshit, they saw what happened. Yet apperently a bunch of conspiracy theorists whose voice can only be heard on the net have a more valid opinion. For the record, my information is from journal articles, newspapers I have read, documentrys I have seen with survivors and a book called born or bred and after port arthur.
Dave Smith For someone without the time or energy to waste on those who refuse to accept reality, you sure expended a lot of time and energy in your last comment. But having said that, yes, I agree, it is best not to waste one's time and energy on those who refuse to examine reality. I will note briefly, though, that Martin has the mental age of an 11-y-o and was declared unfit to plead in court under the Mental Health Act in 1994. He had no trial, as you noted, but he was unfit to enter a plea in court at all, whether at a trial or a sentencting hearing. So why was he required to enter a plea in Novvember 1996? And why was a lawyer or guardian not present at the police interview on 4/7/96, of which large sections are missing BTW? You wrote: *With this coronial inquiry everyone bangs on about as not happening it did happen, the purpose is to determine the cause and circumstances of death. They are located in numerous books.* This is unclear-are you saying there was or wasn't a coronial inquiry? What are the "numerous books" and what is located in them, for tha matter?
Dave Smith Martin held steadfast for six months to not being responsible for Port Arthur saying he was not even there that day. He entered a not guilty plea in September. His lawyer was then changed and several weeks later strangely his plea was also changed ----to guilty. What could possibly change this stubborn Asperger's mind akin to an 11 year old's after six months of denying any involvement with Port Arthur? It is said emotional blackmail from his mother and sister and the promise of a tv. Not only had he been in solitary confinement for six months, but he was denied tv, radio and print media.
@MrSammy1776 The gun was apparently handed in in NSW , and then more then likely legally on-sold to states with more relaxed laws at the time regarding military type semi auto rifles such as QLD and tasmania . so many people who knew him said it wasnt martin ? more bullshit I can think of one or maybe one person ( jim laycock ) atleast stick to the facts , dont repeat like a parrot anything you read on some PAM conspiracy site
I think the opposite EVERYONE should have a gun that way those out there thinking of doing something STUPID knows the people around them can take them out in a heartbeat and maybe they would think twice...after September 11th in the United States people band together and go after those trying to cause harm in situations like that WE ARE SICK OF IT...not going to be sitting ducks ANYMORE
When all, or a significant majority, of the dozens and dozens of people who were ACTUALLY THERE THAT DAY - some of whom were a few feet away from Bryant, some of whom looked Bryant in the eye! - when these people rush forward and state unequivocally that the man they saw shooting that day was someone else; that he was definitely NOT Martin Bryant - THEN and only then, will I be interested in these suspicions.
I agree, however they are not doing the same to positively identify him either. That’s just as much of a concern, no one actually outright states the person they know as Martin Bryant was the person they saw with their own eyes shooting people on that day, it gets implied and skirted around without a simple direct question, did you see Martin Bryant with a gun shooting people. Asked of those that knew him of coarse as the eyewitnesses that have identified Bryant had never seen or known him before, following the media circus having seen anyone with absurd long blonde hair on the day was Bryant for sure…initially I removed seeing witness account from at least one guy that had known Martin for years, I think he was injured and memory of it is a little vauge but think he was retired army or police or something (that could be wrong but do remember thinking a creditable personality) and he stated in no uncertain terms the person he observed that was said to be the gunman was not Martin, he did also say that he never witnessed this person firing a gun, had a rifle, yes blonde hair but didn’t see him shoot and it certainly wasn’t martin. I’ve never looked for this guy saying that until now and don’t seem to find anything about it, makes me question what I remember about it but I know it was only a day or 2 after it happening and it wasn’t some big story like you get now on 60 minutes or the like analyzing every word to a predetermined outcome it was just an interveiwer for some news going around talking to people effected, that’s why I think he was injured as I think it was in the hospital, and I hesitate to say because it’s a little foggy but I’m sure he said something like yea once I was up to it and I turned the telly on I couldn’t beleive they were saying it was Martin because that’s not who I saw, I actually think he said, that’s not who shot me and I’ve known Martin for many years. Details may be a little off and I would live to see that again to see how well my memory does serve, and would also love to see someone that knew Martin before the media told us all about him, that they absolutely positively saw the person they known for some time as the one shooting people on that day, put it all to bed surely. The thing that keeps things being questioned and inconsistent about that day is the fact that there are so many things if proven to of occurred or not to of occurred that can just explain it plainly and simply and put all the theories to bed as rubbish, just remain unanswered, no one just comes out and justifies the simple things that makes it all go away. And the longer that goes on the stronger the belief the official version of that day is questionable. So many things just left as unanswered, people that were there and involved in things that have been question never made publically confirm anything, let alone just come forward and put it to bed by giving their version of things willing to respond to any questions or things that don’t seem to add up, when things are truth fully just as they are it makes perfect sense and it’s sorted, unfortunately not doing that sort of, well it does give grounds for dishonesty and if one bit stinks the whole thing stinks.
I have to admit these people seem like it was a staged interview-but remember this was very shortly after the biggest massacre by one man ever and this man was there neighbour who they encountered who they knew,they knew Bryan'ts Friend who owned the farm next door and was killed while with Bryant-they also had Bryan'ts father die next door to them in a dam -these people are in shock - just put yourself in there shoes they would be numb with shock! They probably have a million things racing their minds with the fact the weird guy Martin murdered 35 people and injured many others and we lived next door!come on people watch the interview with Bryant you don't have to be Einstein to work out he had severe mental problems and got a rush from what he did.Its sad but these people do not fit in with society and really will not be anything important until they stoop to this level.Society can be really cruel and some times push people to go down this path,but at the end of the day a mentally sane person would not go through with it-Bryant did it he's proud of it and these poor people are in shock!
@MilitiaHQ You conspiracists keep quoting ted serong . He was an eccentric old ex vietnam veteran , while obviously skilled in his profession at one stge , during his later years was widely kown to have started losing his marbles. he says " not many people around better then i am " and you believe him? He was 1 ex veteran who made some quotes before his death that the conspiracists have run with as some sort of source of "facts"
I can. I have never used a gun before in life, first time in Thailand, I was exploding watermelons every time. I have learn't nothing from your comments, they a just words joined together, do you have a point or something of interest to add?
@ProfessorTiNfOiL - The cafe alone is the key, there is enough circumstantial (blantly obvious) evidence that would immediately sparked a royal commission. You and I know that will never happen, as too many people made careers, reputation and most of all the pretext to gun control policy, there is no way that anyone with the knowledge will talk.- Now you have to look outside Port Arthur and see how this event was a stepping stone for the bigger picture- writing is one the wall.
our guns are gone ? LMAO wrong again . over 3.5 million firearms in licenced civillian hands. know what your talking about next time buddy :) DERP DERP DERRRRP
@StephenWestSyd where can i see this supposed interview with Ivan milat ? I dont believe you And the others you mentioned are american different Country and different laws ...
I can’t believe people think he’s innocent there are videos of him doing it, pictures of him and on the interview he admitted it. My Aunty was at the servo when he attacked and killed a lady and took her car. My Aunty was hiding and scared as of what had happened and alerted police, ignorance has made her not tell people as know one believes her. There is plenty of evidence showing he did it know one wants to see or hear it that’s why it’s not shown. It’s easy to find though when people are not so ignorant
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Something else from that beacon of journalistic integrity, Sixty Minutes.
Has anyone seen the footage from the report "A Mother's Burden" that shows an SAS man practising his shooting in an indoor range?
See it here, GRAPHIC VIDEO - Port Arthur Massacre from about 20:30.
He's wearing ear muffs. It can be reasonable inferred they were to protect his hearing.
Compare that scene with what we're supposed to believe about the PAM.
Massacre survivors were deaf for weeks afterwards.
No-one said the gunman in the Broad Arrow Café/ Visitors' Centre was wearing ear muffs.
Martin Bryant's hearing was not impaired when he was arrested.
For that reason, he could not be the gunman.
I can't post this information in the comments section of Port Arthur Massacre 1996 Part 1 of 2, which is the most-watched Port Arthur Massacre video according to the viewcount provided by TH-cam.
It must be something they don't want people to discuss.
I wonder if there's anything about any Tasmania Police officers on sick leave for a few weeks from the end of April 1996.
How was Benjamin Overbeeke's hearing at the time? I expect he was well-compensated for a few weeks' inconvenience.
Maybe someone should do a little FOI?
Brigadier Ted Serong, former head of Australian forces in Vietnam-
"Whoever did it is better than I am, and there are not too many people around here better than I am."
The shooter in the Broad Arrow Café at Port Arthur demonstrated all of the qualities of a trained counterterrorist marksman but made no amateur mistakes. Always in motion and point shooting from the right hip with devastating accuracy he killed twenty of the occupants with single shots to the head.
Please. They were all in close quarters, not that difficult. If the victims were scattered around a large field this would be a valid point, but as it was it was fish in a barrel.
Another Lee Harvey Oswald situation ?
The male witness seems to be blinking a hell of a lot...along with glancing down and left usually signs of deception or stress.
+Paul EJ He's a media patsy.
***** yep u do have a point......question is who was using who?
Agreed
Too right
No
If it is true that he fired 29 rounds in a reported 15 sec for 20 head-shot kills and 12 injuries whilst shooting from the hip in the Broad Arrow cafe,then all I have to say is that Bryant must have been practicing for 8 hours per day for a bloody long time, firing THOUSANDS of practice rounds. Because that is phenomenal marksmanship with a semi-auto rifle....There would be relatively few special forces operatives in the world who could achieve that accuracy for that kill/injury ratio.
So who did he get the practice ammo from and where did he fire those thousands of rounds.
Plus it seems very strange that he could exhibit such amazing marksmanship in the cafe, but at Seascape he is reported to have fired about 250 rounds at police and hit no one !
Maybe it is because as "Jamie" he was holding the phone talking to the negotiator while shooting...oh no thats right those gun shots we hear were officially called "coughs"made by the negotiator....LMAO he ought to get a job doing sound effects then because they were perfect gun shot noises.
+Paul EJ And that's another one of dozens of reasons why Martin didn't get a trial. You're on the ball Paul!
U r correct! Unbelievable firearms shills for a man who would today be called autistic
M. B was a patsy. This was the biggest cover up ever
Australians, arm yourselves before it's too late.
Well said could not have said it better
Body language tells me there both lying. I think they have been told what to say
Was just thinking how much were they paid to say this.
What sort of bloke who 'definitely' believes his neighbour is capable of killing his family whilst he's at work...goes to work? Nice husband/father.
Al Bundy or you know.. Calls the cops on him
Because it’s not true maybe
He mostly looks down instead of at the camera.
The sort of bloke with a job. You wouldn’t understand.
Al Bundy or continues to live next door when they could very easily have moved!
Poor martin and his family . Total set up like no shit .
Anyone would think the establishment is dead afraid of the whole Port Arthur story these days.
Here's a mini book review some might find interesting.
In "Notorious Australians the Mad, the Bad and the Dangerous", by Toby Geswell (ABC Books, 2008) Martin Bryant and Port Arthur are mentioned how many times?
NONE.
The person reputed to be the most notorious mass murderer in Australian history is not mentioned even once in a book in which you'd expect him to figure prominently.
Why not?
Pat the authorities on the back!
Martin Bryant was a copycat. No one paid him the attention he felt he deserved. Inspired by the Dunblane School massacre and due to the massive media-attention of that perp... Columbine also got massive attention and almost every school shooter since has cited Harris an Klebold as their inspirations.
Port Arthur or Martin Bryant has not inspired any massacre, mostly due to the fact that authorities silenced it down and chose not to give the deed a lot of attention. And that's how ALL massacres should be handled imo.
mjollner23
So the "authorities" wrote the book I referred to, did they?
Who knows. maybe they did, in the sense that the ABC would never publish anything that challenged the official story about Port Arthur, because they're part of the establishment.
If you want to talk about media not giving him publicity, look no further than the national flagship newspaper of the so-called quality press. The Australian had a doctored photo of Martin Bryant, his name and identifying details and the caption "The Killer" on the front page on 30/4/1996. Other media were no better.
The police never did a thing.
Why did Paul Kelly and others responsible for this criminal contempt of court not go to prison?
If he WAS guilty, the media gave him just the sort of publicity he would have wanted and just the sort of publicity that could have encouraged a copycat.
Bot of course he wasn't, and when they finished playing the tragedy like a fiddle, they dropped it and the many questions surrounding it like a hot potato.
TheDamiandemos
Come to0 think of it, I may have judged the ABC a bit too harshly-just a tiny bit.
There's supposed to be a Four Corners Doco about Port Arthur that was never aired.
FOI, anyone?
But other than that, there's a bit of pissweak probing into why the emergency exit at the Visitors Centre was jammed by Kerry O'Brien and The Seven-Thirty Report.
O"Brien built his career ion making sure he only went just deep enough.
Stuart Littlemore and MediaWatch did some reasonably good work about Martin Bryant's trial by media.
Kerry O'Brien had a brilliant careerin the following years at the ABC, Littlemore not so much. He could be a wanker at times but he had a thousand times more integrity than O'Brien.
Some intelligent comments and perspectives from people on the comment section that have obviously done their research. This interview with the featherstones does not sit well with me and there are some contradictions that make me question their credibility. When I researched Port Arthur over 10 years ago I read a story from a journalist that covered a woman police officer in England being shot from an embassy window. That journalist took an interest in Port Arthur massacre and highlighted all the flaws in the official story. The clincher for me is that slimy Little John Howard locked away all records of Port Arthur for over 100 years. THAT in itself tells the truth of a cover up. The truth will always prevail despite the government and media doing their best to engineer your perceptions.
Professor you described the cafe scene only moment before the first round was fired perfectly. There had to been two gun men involved and one of them was inside waiting for the order (key word) to sweep his side of the room.You can only imagine the carnage, the element of surprise, speed, accuracy, recalculation of targets,list goes on. They had no chance!. It was over in seconds. What most cant comprehend is all their kills were headshots.Now imagine Martin Bryant doing it -"It Doesnt Fit"
these are not witnesses to Port Arthur . They're just people who had a weird neighbor. This proves nothing in regard to Port Arthur.
People treat retarded people badly so there's no wonder why Martin would tell people to get off his property. If Martin wanted a killing spree I think he'd have just gone next door to start with.
Martin Bryant never killed anyone. The person responsible would have needed to have years of military training to carry this off.
No one died that day , the whole is big shite like the rest around the world
You just said you could use a gun properly. Anyone can shoot a gun, just like anyone can drive a car, but to do it with that level of skill is something else.
& wounded twelve more firing a total of only 29 rounds. Using known techniques reported by witnesses he ensured his own safety from attack by turning on the spot and staying outside grappling range. It was an awesome display of expertise, even by special forces standards"
According to eyewitness & victim Neville Quin "He [the gunman] appeared to be the best-trained army guy I've ever seen his stance was unbelievable"
Im not making wild accusations as to who did this but somethin doesnt add up
The average pig has a higher IQ than the average person and make the most loyal and intelligent pets/friends. I sleep with my dog - that does not make me potentially dangerous. If the Featherston's were on my property - I would probably tell them to F.O. too. They have no forensic knowledge and dead animals hanging off their walls - They are the ones who seem dangerous. How dare they portray someone loving an animal as psychotic - How could anyone believe people so uneducated.
Jane Doe they're Tasmanian. Nuff said
They would have a got a nice big check for being talked through this interview ha ha ,its so obvious !
0:28 That's shopped
too right... bad cgi
they are obviously very bad liars.
Do some research u will find these people tried to buy the property numerous times and Martin wouldnt sell it!
He also owned the same an ar15
I dont care if he slept inside with animals. That's not a crime. It has nothing to do with Port Arthur. I don't care if he threatened anyone.
Bryant didn't kill anyone. If you think he did then find video of him killing anyone.
its the people who survived the massacre who are calling for the massacre to be investigated check this utube video - Port Arthur Massacre - Deciet Or Terrorism?(Edited from the original
there is no hard evidence that martin bryant did it, he is innocence.
They have many cctv footage of him doing it. My Aunty was at the service station when he arrived and killed a lady and took her car, she called the police and there is CCTV of that. There is camera footage online you just need to find it. How can anyone say he didn’t do it unless they were actually there? Know one knows but the people who were there and then people don’t believe them. So it doesn’t really matter anyway,
@Jackson Bourke they have it’s locked away. People have it as well, not hard today find. He’s not innocent like 50 people say he did it and he admitted to doing it. Find the old shows and docs and u will see.
@Jackson Bourke and calling someone a dummy proves you know I’m write otherwise you wouldn’t act tough online.
@@adambelong2953 There is no CCTV footage evidence of him committing the crime
@@christianremmer No there is an American man filming Martin Bryant when he was shooting people around the buses.
He did it and you know that.
Stop it already.
Where did they find these people who all knew M. Bryant so well and could anticipate every thing about him - They are nauseating. Any Gov. should have nothing to fear with people having guns - If that Gov. is beloved of it's people.
Stage one. Disarm the people.
His eyes in that photo have been heavily enhanced
Martin Bryant unfortunately had shortish hair on the day of the attack
He was also in the same ward as many of the injured but nobody recognised him as the "shooter" ??????
He was in an isolated wing of the hospital
Come on maddog! As if they would put him in same ward as the victims,....don't be a dumb dog
@RedDwarfts - high neck shots and shot in the face are classified as head shots! From what I saw in the police training video I see nearly all, except for one with headshots. Hence why I said what I said! It's impossible for a intellectually challenge man with aspergers with attention span of a goldfish to produce skills of a professional combat marksman that is emotionally detached killed 20 people in less than a minute!
No ballistics evidence to link Martin or the Gun Shop owner..to the crime.....still no coronial inquiry... fishy as
read the body language, fabricated, scripted and staged. Any 2 year old can see through the poor acting, i mean ther is not one part where any emotion is shown by either of these pathetic creatures. This entire interview is an insult to any viewers intelligence and cordially addresses any one who gets past the first sentence as fools.. This staged fabrication of lies is incorrigible and disgusting obviously these people lacka any integrity or intelligence.
He had a 'glare' and a 'grin' - Watching these ignorant people, gives me a dropped jaw - What would these two 'wanna be experts' make of that?
Exactly
Put me in solitary and torture me by refusing medical treatment I'll admit to anything you want me to.
Especially if you have the mental capacity of a 10 year old. I can’t believe how long he managed to hold out for.
apparently he is supposed to be a retired Victorian detective ( ive seen no proof of this other then being expected to take his word for it because he said it in a video )
who was not at port arthur nor even the state of tasmania at the time of the shootings , who has made a little money off of the subject but gone strangely quiet And to my knowledge has not said anything at all in recent years.
Andrew Mcgregor.
Good grief he was an animal lover
It all adds up doesn't it. Pig pisses on your leg - SNAP! - murderous rampage - 35 dead. Everytime goddammit.
I know that when my cat shits inside I nearly lose it and god damn it it's just as well I don't have a rifle. LOL
@ProfessorTiNfOiL - Yesterday I was asked to view a video which was the Police Training video of Port Arthur, nothing more said to me, but watch.
I also served with the ADF in the infantry between 92 to 2000 and like everything you said is excatly spot on. Once you have served your mind is much broader and you know when you see something like the Cafe and it looks like (is) a counter terrrorism training op in a kill house.You know the answer, cause there is no other way to look at it.
Are these people related to the gunshop owner who sold Victoria Police the AR15 apparently used in the massacre-his name was Featherstone too?
Small world if they are...
That's some transparent acting.
Pathetic this young man was set up .
@ 2:00 - there's you reason for never giving up your ability to defend your self! Against a regular person OR the government!
I recommend a grain of salt be taken with anything out of the old Australian Consolidated Press. Digitally manipulating content was their speciality. No-one remembers when they outright lied to viewers about their magazine division 'never' retouching images?
Martin Bryant was set up!
photoshop eyes to make him look crazed....
Really and you have spoken personally with the majority of Australians have you, to know ''we are nearly all really happy about there being no guns''.
i grew up knowing these people and there two children. i know that the daughter was sexually abused as a young girl by a man living near there house and im damn sure it wasnt martin bryant who abused her. she never told her father about the abuse. so the footprints and man stalking there house wasnt bryant but was the peadophile after his daughter.
+matthew price
It was you wasn't it.
+Tom tonka im a couple years younger then the daughter so I don't see how that's possible
Looks like a cop
The last part said that Martin Bryant had an obsession with firearms. He didn't. He only owned the guns recently before the massacre. When people searched his home (expected a display of perversion) they only found that he had a huge collection of Disney movies and over 200 teddy bears.
Quite honestly put, if Martin Bryant was so utterly evil and threatened so many people and even shot at them with air rifles, then why wasn't he arrested? They certainly had grounds for it.
There's no fucking way this guy wanted to go home and his guns after this. Seems staged
so your saying John Featherstone is the port arthur shooter not martin bryant ?...
@MilitiaHQ People were caught completely by suprise , and shot at very close distance as they hudled under tables / chairs / behind doors and lying ontop of their loved ones . Many of the victims were hit from so close they had powder burns on their bodies and the 5.56mm round passed through multiple people.
Where have all; the comments gone? Get a bit too hot for the censors, did it?
I liked the comments here; it felt as though I was among friends.
Just an interesting point. Everyone picking up on his body language here, John Featherstone says. "I went out and bought a gun, that I knew that would equal what ever he had", "Yes because I heard shots, at different times." "Im going to get home and burn all me guns"
Observe the shooting trophy's in the Featherstones home.
If anyone had the marksmanship that Ive seen so far ummm guess who?. And this guy seemed to know too much about a lot about Martin at the farm house.
FREE M. B!
its been nearly 20 years I want to hear Martins side to the story... why he did it? (if he did it?)
how come Jeffrey Dahmer,Ted Bundy,Ivan Milat and Charles Manson get/had media interviews but Bryant doesn't?
Because he didn’t want to they tried to interview him and he declined
@@adambelong2953 They did lol
Because according to anti-gunners, playing paintball is basically training to fight real gun battles and is nothing more than training for criminals and terrorists.
if this case interests you, join the Martin Bryant facebook pages
Martin Bryant was most definitely GUILTY.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
ANYONE WHO THINKS HE DIDN'T, SHOULD ASK THE ONES STILL LIVING WHO SAW HIM DOING IT, AND ALIVE TO TELL YOU THEMSELVES, IT WAS HIM.
THESE PEOPLE WILL LIVE WITH IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
PLEASE RESPECT THE ONES WHO STILL LIVE WITH THEIR WOUNDS FROM IT.
HE PLEADED GUILTY.
I still fail to see how this makes the ridiculous gun laws Australia has necessary, you can get a gun illegally easily if you really want one. Most (I'd bet 99%) of gun crime in Australia would be illegal guns.
This guy is lying through his teeth. Probably had a problem with Martin and sees the opportunity to undermine him. When he started talking about believing Martin pulled on the wheel and cause the car crash, based on zero evidence, I knew he was full of it.
Strange he originally plead not guilty and was held in solitary confinement till he confessed to get a tv given to him no trial no corronial inquiry no inquest a big coverup strange to me
The show the classic signs of lying, however his opinion is interesting, cause if people where armed in port arthur he would have been stoped and lives would have been saved, martins weapons used like ak 47 and ar 15 where not legal anyway, so gun laws or any reference to gun control is erelavent in this case.. but per head of capita aus vs use shootings, stats speak for themselves on this one..
1-Bryant was seen arguing with the toll booth attentant about where to park right outside the broad arrow cafe shortly before the shooting
2- Brigid cook was one of the injured who saw Bryant and could id him
3- Bryant admits to killing people and hijacking the car and bungling people into the boot
4- Bryant is on the phone admitting to holding hostages , and the only survivor of seascape,
5-Bryant admitted owning the weapons and loved his sweet AR rifle
Plenty more proving his guilt
Computer savvy gun owners always have the "nuclear option" available if things get a lot worse, eg if they ban lever-action long arms. The FAR's are already pretty inefficient and vulnerable so wouldn't it be a shame if they were to become totally useless from hacking?
now its the " highest 2 shooters " in the world ?
These conspiracy followers of the PAM keep changing that line all the time , it keeps getting better and better LOL.
Bryants victims were unarmed , sitting down at their tables , Bryant holding the rifle on his hip was level with the victims heads , many were shot at such close range that powder burns were left of the victims.
Although making it sound like he was a " top 2 shooter in the world " just adds hype to the conspiracies you follow.
Can someone tell me what the man says between 3:40 and 3:50?
It sounded like “a kid would actually wrench on the wheel?” 🤷♂️
@@christianremmer Thank you, English is not my native language.
He says have you ever heard of the song darude by sandstorm
So the conspiracy theorists think calling them liars and an omission on port arthur in a crime book is proof it's a conspiracy
NO not at all.
The fact there was no court case or proper inquiry is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact Martin Bryant could not have made so may head shots in such a short time is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact witnesses who SAW the shooter and said IT WAS NOT BRYANT and were not listened to is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact there was no Coronial investigation is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact we are told ` There were 20 killed 12 injured inside the cafe with 29 bullets is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact they kept police half a hour away for over 5+ hours Because ` It was TOO DANGEROUS FOR POLICE ` is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact they sent 2 women police officers OFF the BEAT in Hobart via Helicopter and not more senior more competent police officers for the situation is poof of a conspiracy.
The Fact Bryant admitted to owning 3 guns and there were many many guns found at the site is proof of a conspiracy.
June 1995.
Press Release. Uniform national gun laws are drawn up in Canberra.
A specially constructed morgue truck unlike anything else in Australia or perhaps the world, refrigerated and capable of carrying 22 bodies is delivered to the Southern Tasmanian Mortuary Service. It is used only once - at Port Arthur- then disposed of.
Code Brown , a disaster emergency response plan, involving multiple casualties, is instigated at the RHH (Royal Hobart Hospital) Is proof of a conspiracy.
The fact management of Port Arthur were sent away that morning at 11am to go to a meeting the next day, That had NEVER happened before in 18 known years and is proof of a conspiracy.
11am. 28th April,1996.
Top ten managers of the Port Arthur site are evacuated in 3 government cars. Looks Like a Conspiracy to me ?
November 1995 .
Fact,Roland Browne, spokesman for the
Tasmanian branch of the Coalition for Gun Control, warned all Australians that if Tasmania didn't enact tougher firearms laws then there would be a massacre in Tasmania of massive proportions. Evidence of a conspiracy.
Fact, Ray Groome as Attorney General removed any claim by any worker or volunteer for compensation to overcome PTSD -( Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) from the Workers Compensation Act, the main injury resulting from the Port Arthur Massacre. Several of the victims have suicided since. Evidence of a conspiracy
Fact, Coroners Act 1995 is introduced containing a new clause that any finding of any subsequent coroners inquest (which allows much more evidence than a normal court of law) must not conflict with or contradict the prior findings of the Supreme Court in the same case. John Howard illegally helped prevent a Coroners Inquest being called into the Port Arthur Massacre. Is evidence of a conspiracy.
March 1996.
The Fact. The warning is repeated - the spokesman for the national anti-gun lobby in Tasmania said there will be a massacre in Tasmania unless we get uniform gun laws. Is evidence of a conspiracy
The Fact Ray Groome stood down as Premier voluntarily to take on the duties of Attorney-General, Justice Minister, Minister for Tourism, (Port Arthur is a tourist site), Minister for Workplace Standards and Minister responsible for the Port Arthur Site.
All of which bore responsibility for Port Arthur and the aftermath of the massacre. IS Evidence of a Conspiracy.
The fact Bryant was interviewed WITHOUT a lawyer and with the consent of his lawyer ,- What Lawyer says it is `OK` to speak to police without him there especially after a massacre, That is evidence of a conspiracy.
1pm. 28th April,1996.
The Fact, A Seminar for trauma specialist doctors from all around Australia, involving response to a mass shooting, is completed at or very near to Hobart Hospital. A Conspiracy .
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A Fact, All seventeen ambulance personnel are in attendance at Hobart Ambulance Headquarters, despite it being a Sunday.
Three helicopters are available on this Sunday despite there being normally only one. Looks like a conspiracy to me.
1.24pm. Sunday 28th April ,1996.
A Fact that The only reported police on duty within an hour of the Tasman Peninsular, both called out by radio from police headquarters in Hobart to attend at Saltwater river; 1/2 hour drive from Port Arthur, in relation to a first ever, supposed heroin cache, radio in their arrival. (the heroin cache turns out to be jars of soap powder) Evidence of a Conspiracy.
27-28th April 1996.
A small unknown Fact, 700 journalists from 17 countries arrive for a conference beginning on 29th April in Hobart Tasmania. 80 are bussed to the PA site in a pre-booked coach. Evidence of a Conspiracy.
The Israeli Connection.
Another small little known Fact is that, The Israeli Mizraim is an elite group inside the Mossad who specialize is assassinations in the West Bank and elsewhere. They are trained to have no compulsion about shooting Goyim, ‘cattle’ which they regard gentiles to be. Of the six members of this group who are the top worldwide in their field three just happened to be holidaying in Tasmania at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre. A coincidence maybe ?
Barrie Unsworth (NSW Premier at the time) let the cat out of the bag that the planning for the massacre was begun 10 years prior, when he emerged from a state and federal ministers conference in Hobart stating to the waiting media, that unless they get uniform national gun control - why? there would be a huge massacre in Tasmania.
The SOG (Special Operations Group) within the Tasmanian Police responded to the massacre according to the SOG Manual prepared in accordance with the November 1995 (how convenient) Anti - Terrorist Plan drawn up by SACPAV (Standing Advisory Committee for Protection Against Violence) - under whose control the plan placed them. SACPAV is run by the Protective Security Co-ordination Centre in Canberra.. Their (SOG) main job on that and subsequent days was liaising with the media and attempting to shut up witnesses and suppress evidence.
There is MORE MUCH MUCH MORE !!
Now can you honestly say with a STRAIGHT FACE there is NO CONSPIRACY ?
Mick C.
Great comment.
Is it true the morgue truck was not only unprecedented in Tasmania, but anywere elae in Australia as well?
It makes me wonder if there is a morgue truck of this capacity available anywhere in Australia even now, or if there was, when it was acquired.
Because if there wasn't, that's only further proof of a conspiracy since why the hell would state with the smallest population need one?
You wrote:
*Ray Groome stood down as Premier voluntarily to take on the duties of Attorney-General, Justice Minister, Minister for Tourism, (Port Arthur is a tourist site), Minister for Workplace Standards and Minister responsible for the Port Arthur Site.*
The way Groome did this reminds me of some town in the wild west where the one dude is the saloon keeper, barber, sheriff, judge, undertaker...especially undertaker.
Oh well, it IS Tasmania.
At least he wasn't the mayor; that would have really overcommitted him-the "mayor" or course being Tony Rundle.
Damn them all.
Mick C. I dont have the time or energy to waste on someone who will dismiss every argument I give as something like "its the government wanting you to believe that" or "your another sheep"
So a few things
First he admitted he did it. Yes he was held in solitary for 6 months. But during the 6 months a evidence and a case was being mounted against him. Eventually his mother convinced him to admit guilty because it was so cut and dry and the victims had suffered enough without living it again.
With this coronial inquiry everyone bangs on about as not happening it did happen, the purpose is to determine the cause and circumstances of death. They are located in numerous books.
With the trial, there wasnt one because in Australian law when you plead guilty there is no need for one.
You say THE FACT that Bryant couldnt make so many head shots. Based on what. Where are your references. He was in a small area the majority of those that got head shots were the elderly who were slow or those that were frozen in shock. He was very close to the victims.
The fact that he owned 3 guns and many more were found, how many were found on scene. How do you know he had 3, did you go shopping with him when he bought them?
If your comment was an essay it would be classed as a failure because you are claiming facts without any sort of refrence
In documentarys survivors themselves say these conspiracy theories are bullshit, they saw what happened. Yet apperently a bunch of conspiracy theorists whose voice can only be heard on the net have a more valid opinion.
For the record, my information is from journal articles, newspapers I have read, documentrys I have seen with survivors and a book called born or bred and after port arthur.
Dave Smith
For someone without the time or energy to waste on those who refuse to accept reality, you sure expended a lot of time and energy in your last comment.
But having said that, yes, I agree, it is best not to waste one's time and energy on those who refuse to examine reality.
I will note briefly, though, that Martin has the mental age of an 11-y-o and was declared unfit to plead in court under the Mental Health Act in 1994.
He had no trial, as you noted, but he was unfit to enter a plea in court at all, whether at a trial or a sentencting hearing. So why was he required to enter a plea in Novvember 1996?
And why was a lawyer or guardian not present at the police interview on 4/7/96, of which large sections are missing BTW?
You wrote:
*With this coronial inquiry everyone bangs on about as not happening it did happen, the purpose is to determine the cause and circumstances of death. They are located in numerous books.*
This is unclear-are you saying there was or wasn't a coronial inquiry?
What are the "numerous books" and what is located in them, for tha matter?
Dave Smith Martin held steadfast for six months to not being responsible for Port Arthur saying he was not even there that day. He entered a not guilty plea in September. His lawyer was then changed and several weeks later strangely his plea was also changed ----to guilty.
What could possibly change this stubborn Asperger's mind akin to an 11 year old's after six months of denying any involvement with Port Arthur? It is said emotional blackmail from his mother and sister and the promise of a tv. Not only had he been in solitary confinement for six months, but he was denied tv, radio and print media.
@MrSammy1776 The gun was apparently handed in in NSW , and then more then likely legally on-sold to states with more relaxed laws at the time regarding military type semi auto rifles such as QLD and tasmania .
so many people who knew him said it wasnt martin ?
more bullshit I can think of one or maybe one person ( jim laycock )
atleast stick to the facts , dont repeat like a parrot anything you read on some PAM conspiracy site
I think the opposite EVERYONE should have a gun that way those out there thinking of doing something STUPID knows the people around them can take them out in a heartbeat and maybe they would think twice...after September 11th in the United States people band together and go after those trying to cause harm in situations like that WE ARE SICK OF IT...not going to be sitting ducks ANYMORE
When all, or a significant majority, of the dozens and dozens of people who were ACTUALLY THERE THAT DAY - some of whom were a few feet away from Bryant, some of whom looked Bryant in the eye! - when these people rush forward and state unequivocally that the man they saw shooting that day was someone else; that he was definitely NOT Martin Bryant - THEN and only then, will I be interested in these suspicions.
I agree, however they are not doing the same to positively identify him either. That’s just as much of a concern, no one actually outright states the person they know as Martin Bryant was the person they saw with their own eyes shooting people on that day, it gets implied and skirted around without a simple direct question, did you see Martin Bryant with a gun shooting people. Asked of those that knew him of coarse as the eyewitnesses that have identified Bryant had never seen or known him before, following the media circus having seen anyone with absurd long blonde hair on the day was Bryant for sure…initially I removed seeing witness account from at least one guy that had known Martin for years, I think he was injured and memory of it is a little vauge but think he was retired army or police or something (that could be wrong but do remember thinking a creditable personality) and he stated in no uncertain terms the person he observed that was said to be the gunman was not Martin, he did also say that he never witnessed this person firing a gun, had a rifle, yes blonde hair but didn’t see him shoot and it certainly wasn’t martin.
I’ve never looked for this guy saying that until now and don’t seem to find anything about it, makes me question what I remember about it but I know it was only a day or 2 after it happening and it wasn’t some big story like you get now on 60 minutes or the like analyzing every word to a predetermined outcome it was just an interveiwer for some news going around talking to people effected, that’s why I think he was injured as I think it was in the hospital, and I hesitate to say because it’s a little foggy but I’m sure he said something like yea once I was up to it and I turned the telly on I couldn’t beleive they were saying it was Martin because that’s not who I saw, I actually think he said, that’s not who shot me and I’ve known Martin for many years.
Details may be a little off and I would live to see that again to see how well my memory does serve, and would also love to see someone that knew Martin before the media told us all about him, that they absolutely positively saw the person they known for some time as the one shooting people on that day, put it all to bed surely.
The thing that keeps things being questioned and inconsistent about that day is the fact that there are so many things if proven to of occurred or not to of occurred that can just explain it plainly and simply and put all the theories to bed as rubbish, just remain unanswered, no one just comes out and justifies the simple things that makes it all go away. And the longer that goes on the stronger the belief the official version of that day is questionable.
So many things just left as unanswered, people that were there and involved in things that have been question never made publically confirm anything, let alone just come forward and put it to bed by giving their version of things willing to respond to any questions or things that don’t seem to add up, when things are truth fully just as they are it makes perfect sense and it’s sorted, unfortunately not doing that sort of, well it does give grounds for dishonesty and if one bit stinks the whole thing stinks.
I think this is here say very reliable. Yes very.
I have to admit these people seem like it was a staged interview-but remember this was very shortly after the biggest massacre by one man ever and this man was there neighbour who they encountered who they knew,they knew Bryan'ts Friend who owned the farm next door and was killed while with Bryant-they also had Bryan'ts father die next door to them in a dam -these people are in shock - just put yourself in there shoes they would be numb with shock! They probably have a million things racing their minds with the fact the weird guy Martin murdered 35 people and injured many others and we lived next door!come on people watch the interview with Bryant you don't have to be Einstein to work out he had severe mental problems and got a rush from what he did.Its sad but these people do not fit in with society and really will not be anything important until they stoop to this level.Society can be really cruel and some times push people to go down this path,but at the end of the day a mentally sane person would not go through with it-Bryant did it he's proud of it and these poor people are in shock!
+Clancey 78 When was the interview with these two conducted?
@nicephotog you really make no sense at all nicephotog
english isn't your primary language is it ?
these guys sound like their lying
Well he didn't go next door.
This is real these where his neighbours!! People where differnt back then in 1996 then they are now! There not lieing wtf
@MrOzGuitar would you care to call Brigid cook a liar then ?
She saw and was shot in the legs by bryant .
@MilitiaHQ You conspiracists keep quoting ted serong .
He was an eccentric old ex vietnam veteran , while obviously skilled in his profession at one stge , during his later years was widely kown to have started losing his marbles.
he says " not many people around better then i am " and you believe him? He was 1 ex veteran who made some quotes before his death that the conspiracists have run with as some sort of source of "facts"
Where's ICAC?
Well alot of the people were killed at close range, so it wouldnt be that hard aiming when the person is within 2 meters of you.
everyone around him dying, thats fishy
I can. I have never used a gun before in life, first time in Thailand, I was exploding watermelons every time. I have learn't nothing from your comments, they a just words joined together, do you have a point or something of interest to add?
yes.
This guy does not make a very good witness.
PROPAGANDA CRAP/....not even good acting...
@ProfessorTiNfOiL - The cafe alone is the key, there is enough circumstantial (blantly obvious) evidence that would immediately sparked a royal commission. You and I know that will never happen, as too many people made careers, reputation and most of all the pretext to gun control policy, there is no way that anyone with the knowledge will talk.- Now you have to look outside Port Arthur and see how this event was a stepping stone for the bigger picture- writing is one the wall.
our guns are gone ?
LMAO wrong again .
over 3.5 million firearms in licenced civillian hands.
know what your talking about next time buddy :)
DERP DERP DERRRRP
@StephenWestSyd where can i see this supposed interview with Ivan milat ?
I dont believe you
And the others you mentioned are american different Country and different laws ...
Hahahahahaha the photo of him (supposably) on the ambulance bed looks like leif garret hahahahahaha nothing like him
Yes you can, or you can make one.
The truth is obvious
all people commenting are nuts, how can you think this is fake lol
@keglimp agreed.
yer i think you are rite and i think martin is innocent
@daleprice66 must be blinking morse code to the Mossad .........
He is innocent.
@ProfessorTiNfOiL lol indeed.
These people are liars
@ProfessorTiNfOiL yey! *dances* agreeing is friendly progress! :D hahahaha ;) i hope at this point you see that sarcasm in my previous comments.
@ProfessorTiNfOiL for real? did ya know him? wikid.
Liars!
I can’t believe people think he’s innocent there are videos of him doing it, pictures of him and on the interview he admitted it. My Aunty was at the servo when he attacked and killed a lady and took her car. My Aunty was hiding and scared as of what had happened and alerted police, ignorance has made her not tell people as know one believes her. There is plenty of evidence showing he did it know one wants to see or hear it that’s why it’s not shown. It’s easy to find though when people are not so ignorant
:-) cuckoo