UPDATE! ------- WE WERE UNABLE TO DO OUR INTENDED FOLLOW UP LIVESTREAM LAST WEDNESDAY DUE TO WORK BUT WE WILL BE DOING IT THIS WEDNESDAY! 11:00AM CENTRAL TIME U.S. - 5/25 - WE CANT WAIT TO FINALLY PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER! ALSO - After the livestream we will be responding to your comments. We wanted to make sure there were no spoilers so we have done our best to stay out of the comment section until after! See you all WEDNESDAY! MUCH LOVE!
@@TheNEWReel thnx! for all Dutchies and north European out there... That is a diff of 7 hours. So our 23:00 will be 16:00 in the US and 11:00 am cst will be 18:00 in Amsterdam.
After 2 years publicing I found your channel and I love your reaction. I think it was the titles of the videos I could not find your videos. As a semi fan from Finland and always come back to these songs as they were my childhood. They were hard to find.
"The White Lands of Empahtica" is a Dark Tower (Stephen King) reference. It's a frozen land where the residents can feel and share the emotions of others. Tuomas often talks about his connection to the Ocean, referring to himself in an earlier song as an “Ocean Soul.” The Pacific continues this theme, and the music matches the ocean's name, meaning “Peaceful.” #lotd "The Ever Free” refers to a Victorian Era poem by Barry Cornwall, “The Sea.” Reading that poem helps a lot when trying to understand Thomas’ connection to the ocean. Tuomas says the last section, "Mother and Father" is almost a direct quote from his mother, the 'death" was metaphorical, this was his mom pulling him out of that depression.
Brittany..... it's okay to admit it like this. This song has not only got you but has got plenty of us also. I bet many nightwish army will admit to it too. it gets me every single time I listen to this song.
Me before seeing the video: Just randomly stumbled upon this and as a Member of Nightwish Army I had to click on it. However, this song is a tough one, I personally like it when people do not research the story first just because it shows how briliant this song really is because it tells his own story. You get the right feelings and emotions just by listening (which is absolutely Floors amazing ability to touch human souls with her voice) to it, you don't even need the lyrics to understand the drama. However, you should look up the story afterwards to be amazed how close you were to understand what's going on without knwoing it ;-) Me after seeing the video: Nailed it ...! Also me: Cryin' like a baby ... every time I hear this song! I love it! I can literally feel music and this one feels so freakin' good even tho it's pretty dark.
Hey guys!!! There's not so much to say. I'm a grown man and I saw this thousends of times and every single time I cry. Thanks for try to understand the meaning of this song. Greettings from Argentina. Sorry for my English.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment! We are still going to do another video to continue off of this one where we do the research and find out the back story behind it. We have just got behind the past couple of months as real life interrupts the fun sometimes lol thanks again and Much Love
Floor being an empathic vocalist. How hard was this on her emotions knowing this was about Tuomas. She felt every word.He was saved by his own mom and dad.
Guys - I am a bit speachless right here.... I have seen this video now for at least 100 times and never been able to not have tears . And I am really blessed to now have seen your reaction because it is so profound mentally and really gave me chills. You are such an adorable couple with so much empathy and inner knowledge that I can find no more words. Sorry if my words don't make sense as I am from germany and my english might be filled with wrong words or phrases.... Keep on reacting, I will follow.
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting lyrics and composition never ceases to amaze me. 3 minutes exactly from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ is when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat.This is just an amazing piece of music art!🤘🤘 Kai in Beast Mode on the drum kit🤘🤘
Do you know how you can tell that your reaction to the song is "real"? The longer the song went on, the calmer, quieter and more emotional you became! A reaction that people just really believe! You also read a lot of the song correctly without knowing the exact background. Congratulations and thank you!
Since you obviously didn't know the real reason why the song was written, you were so wonderful to listen to as you dissected it and were surprisingly on point - bravo!
Thank you so much for the kind words! We are fans of music AND the actual art of music and song writing. Its Awesome to hear a great song and be able to see different people relate to the lyrics in many different ways... Thanks for watching! Much Love
The story that Tuomas is telling is the hell he went thru with Nightwishes 1st Singer Tarja and how he had to basically let her go (fire her). Tuomas the musical writer/genius behind Nightwish and wrote and open letter explainging why he let Tarja go. Tarja several days later wrote a open letter to. You should read both open letters to understand this song Poet and the Pendulum. Tuamos is the one that uses this song to die, because he did not want to fire Tarja, but because of the turmoil she was causing, he had to fire her!
This song was based around the Edgar Allen Poe short horror story, "The Pit and the Pendulum". Both of you are very deep level thinkers when it comes to understanding the poetic and metaphoric meanings to this song. Great job without knowing the full back story. Yes, Too-ohmas is the main song writer and the focus of these lyrics. Tuomas does relate to many of the different aspects that can be metaphorically represented by water in all of its different forms. The blade also represents the sharp tongues and criticism from the press and all of the fans who loved and revered Tarja as the Nightwish front woman. IMHO, I feel that Tuomas actually had to kill off and bury a small piece of his soul to be able to move forward with his dream. A new version of Nightwish. Mother & Father were some actual words of comfort and advice for Tuomas as he was attempting to deal with all of the fallout and his emotional turmoil. "The End" of the first version of Nightwish,. Which opened the way for "The Beginning" of the new Nightwish! Sorry if I said too much. Simply put, "A Masterpiece" of musical artistic composition.
WE ARE GOING TO BE RESEARCHING THE TRUE MEANING TO THIS SONG IN OUR NEXT LIVESTREAM ON NIGHTWISH WEDNESDAY! WE WILL BE REFRAINING FROM READING ANY COMMENTS THAT APPEAR AS THEY ARE GOING TO TELL US ANY INFO ON THE MEANING OR CREATION OF THIS SONG UNTIL AFTER WEDNESDAY. SO IF WE DONT REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT JUST KNOW WE WILL READ IT BUT AFTER THE LIVESTREAM BECAUSE WE LIKE OUR VIDEOS AND LIVESTREAMS TO BE AUTHENTIC AND WE WANT TO DISCOVER THE REAL STORY TO THIS ONE WITH ALL OF YOU! - THANK YOU ALL FOR WATCHING, CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU WEDNESDAY AT 11AM CENTRAL TIME U.S. FOR THE CONCLUSION OF THIS VIDEO LIVE!
good choice it will give you a whole different view of the song, I will add only one thing from the part he says 3min and counting it's exactly 3min till the end of that part
I think this was a spectacular reaction and analysis. Thank you, Chad and Brittany, I love guys. Btw, still trying to figure out how to send some pics from when I saw them in Toronto. I also can’t wait until you react to a live version of Shoemaker.
Great reaction guys. We all have an emotional bond with Nightwish which is probably why we obbsess a lot about this band and why the Nightwish army are so passionate and caring. Love you guys and Thank you.
Hello New Reel. The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is guilt for what happened, there is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen. However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does. The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly. Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen Greetings from the Netherlands
This is one of the interpretations and i know lots of fans do not agree, they just need to read the open letter that was given to Tarja by the whole band at her last concert with Nightwish, where they fired her. And the main reason that Tuomas went through a depression was that specially the Tarja fans where furious and showed that in the media and everyone was blaming Tuomas. (the fans spit on his grave). He felt the whole world was against him.
@@roborange159 That's the thing about a well-written song. Yes those are the events that inspired this song. But Tuomas was skillful enough to create layers within this masterpiece that many of us can relate to and feel emotionally involved.
Im almost 7ft tall, doing fighting sports and grow a big black beard. and the last part always hits me right in the heart and i start crying like a little baby.
One of the best analysis of the lyrics! The entire Nightwish production is beyond compare but many “ignore” (pay no attention to the) lyrics! Tuomas and co-writers are absolutely brilliant - deeper story, meaning in ever musical experience they create! 💙 Nightwish 💙🇫🇮
To us, a person can’t hear a song without “HEARING” the lyrics, the melody/music is only part of the creation, so not acknowledging the actual lyrics is like experiencing only half the song & when it comes to Nightwish, how anybody could not have words to speak of their words is beyond us cuz their songwriting & performing is beyond what us mere mortals could hope to create lol so instead while others just nod & enjoy the song, we get to fully grasp the entire experience by taking our time to feel the comprehension 🫶🏻 glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time to watch & comment, much love!
Awesome reaction you two. I like that you hadn't researched it first. My own interpretation of the last part is that after all the depression and suicidal ideation he went home and his parents gave him support and hope. The last words of the song being "The beginning". By the way, I have a good cry every time I listen to this masterpiece.
Yeah ❤️ you2 are awsome persons to read that pain in the song from Tuomas 🎹 ❤️👏i love when the members Emppu 🎸 and Marko check on Tuomas that hi feels ok they all know what is a hard song for Tuomas ❤️❤️🇸🇪 THX for a stunning good reaction on Nightwish ❤️👏👏👏🇸🇪🇺🇲
For people who don't know the story behind this song I can tell you did one of the best analyses I've seen (heard) till now. You got fundamentally what about it is. Some details if you are interested of... " In the year of our Lord 2005" the band parted ways with their first singer Tarja because of some personal disagreements with an open letter (you can find it in the net) published to the fans explaining the reason behind this action. Because of her voice and operatic way of singing Tarja had become iconic for the fandom setting how Nightwish sound like. Although it was done with unanimous decision of all members Tuomas being the leader of the band took the entire backlash from the fans, the media, friends and even had a phone call with the Finnish prime minister back then.. As a sensitive person that led him to a depression and even some suicidal thoughts. He felt betrayed and felt all he did till then being lost(1000 pages of erased text). That psychological turmoil he associated with the Poe's " Pit and the pendullum" story like descending sharpened pendullum above your head and brought these suicidal thoughts. Instead of doing it in real life he wrote the song being his metaphorical death to remove the load and start a new beginning. The last part "Mother and Father" contains actual words by his parents who together with one of his friends(as far as I know) helped him get over it\. That is the short story and this song is probably their most emotional masterpiece..
OH MY GOSH !!! Without knowing the background of this song you did a phenomenal job on your interpretation of this story. You are very profound and sympathetic people. Thanks for this great reaction - looking forward to more !
Thank you so much. We can’t wait until Wednesday! We were very fortunate to find each other over a decade ago, and since then we have been able to rely on each offer both intellectually and emotionally, and that helps tremendously when you are trying to work on yourself as a person and develop a trust for your intuitions. We realized a long time ago that love is the answer and it starts with loving yourself. Thank you for the comment hope you have an amazing day! -Much Love!
Guys, totally loved your reaction, you are both so insightful and descriptive. I am so lucky to have seen this, take care and big love, from Scotland ❤
For Nightwish fans , this song is the most meaningful... I have seen plenty reactors fail to do this song justice, but you guys (first time reaction wise) did Great, Solid A . This songs backstory is deep and dark , especially for Tuomas (suicide by song). So dig deep (both letters and some interviews) ! And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also I recommend to read "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor... The reason for Tuomas’ depression was not the firing of Tarja ( First singer of Nightwish )itself, it was what came after that. The fans idolized Tarja and they could not accept the fact that she got fired. In their heads Tarja was the one that made the band famous and they became really angry and hostile, especially towards Tuomas. They really took it out on him. They called him all kinds of ugly things and a lot of them expressed that they did not care if he would die. These are the things that brought him into depression and these are the things that echo through the lyrics. However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Tuomas but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does. There is more ,...but in do time .... Nuff Said !!!! NWSU 🤘😎🤘
Great job . In short this is 5 steps of depression from the loss of his life long friend and band mate Tarja (1st singer) & the grief the media and fans gave him the 1st two words "The End" represents the end of the Tarja era & the last "The Beginning" represents the starting of the new Nightwish . Mother & father are words spoken to him to help him by his parents to move on
Hallo Robert, in my opinon, this nothing to do with Tarja ,more, after the time the Band fired her. And it is the whole Band.fired her, but Tuomas become all the hate from all sides ( my fav Boy, the Finnish Prime Minister)
Thank you so much for the kind words! We really do appreciate the support and can’t wait until Wednesday so we can finally get the backstory and find out the True meaning! Hope to see you there!
@@TheNEWReel Hi 😊 I love your channel and your videos very much!😊❤️ I want to recommend a band called Sabaton that comes from Falun in Sweden!🇸🇪 It's my favorite band!😎❤️🤘🤘 I think you would like them very much!😊 I really love Nightwish too!❤️🤘🤘 Kind regards from northern Sweden 🇸🇪
Indeed! And also her empathy, as a classical composer said: Floor has a rare inborn gift to connect with the emotion of the song, and transfer that to the listener. That and is the secret of what she does.. (and singing technique is only a tool for that)
This one of the best reactions to this master piece! You got it almost all. I won't tell you what you missed (which is not much) so I will not spoil it for you! And yes this song gets me every time, even the way she looks at Toumas at the end and says "thankyou" to the audience!
Once you do the research, you might be surprised how incredibly accurate you were. The motivation behind the song is nearly impossible to determine unless you know the history of the band, so your insight was remarkable. It's so much fun to see somebody else experience the passion I felt upon hearing the song for the first time. Thank you for sharing this brief moment in your life with us.
One of the best breakdown for this song I've heard, thank you so much. BTW many of us cry whenever we hear it. Will be seeing them in 5 days, sort of glad it's not on the set list. I listen to this one alone. Be well.
That was a fantastic reaction, thanx you two :) I must have heard this song at least 100 times, probably much more.. but i still get misty eyed at the end.
Woo! Watching this again with two fellow empaths is intense! This song always gets me teary-eyed, but you guys really turned up the volume! It's good though, very cathartic.
The Poet and the Pendulum is like a Book wirh 5 Chapters . Nightwish play Poet and the Pendulum only on the Wembley Show and than never againe . In the last chapter mother and father he discureib a real Conversation with his mom . Nihtwish fan from North Germany Reportet 🤘 🤘
One of the best reactions for this song I've seen. Your understanding for the lyrics baffled me. I'm also an empath and an introvert. You mentioned "shower meditation" and I wanna know more about that.
As an empath myself, after having a job that absolutely broke me apart, I had to turn to medication to get out of the most crippling depression you can imagine. It's hell sometimes. This song represents the phases we go through to get out. I'm so glad we still have Tuomas's art to make us all happy in this life. I love you guys, you are awesome, great reaction. Big kiss to you both 💛💛💛💛💛
Still struggling with fuckin’ depression and anxiety!! An outsider with no job, loser, no freedom, having much fears and frustrations and losses!! I can’t stand life!! Though i tried many solutions, and i’m still trying!!
There is no shame in needing help to save yourself from a darkness like that, medication, friends or otherwise. On of the most horrible thoughts I could have for someone in that kind of depression is not doing anything to try to get out of it, or not having the will to even try. One of the great poisons in this world is having to hamster wheel ourselves to death. We have to pay for things we already own (taxes) we have to pay for things we shouldn’t have to pay for ( water, warmth) I don’t even think we should have to pay for most foods minus having someone prepare them for us like going to a restaurant or a diner that I understand but the societies we as humans are conditioned by and the governments that control the aspects of those societies will always make it to where we feel like we have to work our lives away doing things that snuff out creativity, kill our ambition, destroy our dreams and I could keep going and going with things that we do to ourselves with the objective to just survive or keep our family from falling into the red. So there is nothing but praise to you from us for being able to get yourself through such a dark time in your life however you had to do it. We are so appreciative of your support and thank you so much for commenting we had to take the summer off from the channel due to unforeseen issues that came up within the family, so we are sorry it took us so long to respond. Thanks again and music is healing in so many ways. It brings people together in times when we can be so far apart. This one is truly amazing and awe inspiring. Much love to you.
@Osama depression doesn’t define you it controls you and dictates thoughts that wouldn’t normally be yours. There is no shame in feeling that way. I don’t want to come off as I am preaching to you because I am not I am coming to you as a person that accepts you. I can’t say I understand how you feel because That wouldn’t help you anyway what I can say is that life is a struggle and sometimes unfair and dark and not at all like what we thought it was going to be. But the beautiful thing about life is that we can allow ourselves second third chances if we can learn from the lessons life gives us, no matter how hard they are or how long it takes. Just know that there is a place for all of us in the world and we sincerely hope you get to experience the amazing parts of life as well. We will keep you in our thoughts and send positive thoughts your way. Much Love to you
@@TheNEWReel life is a nightmare, most of the things are exhausting, scary, painful, sad and hard, lonely!! I don’t how people can stand it!!! Anyway, i’m still trying, but most people often are so fuckin’ conditionally loving or respecting, and they don’t want to hear dark or sad things, and deadly powerless and arrogant and controlling and overly selfish (not being selfish in the natural way of giving and receiving)!!! Anyway, i’m trying now to fix it! I’ve been like this fir 6 years!!! Anyway, thx for your words
We can definitely relate, the best advice we can give out of experience is if the people in your life are conditional with love as well as all of the things you wrote you are most likely dealing with narcissistic people and the only way we have found to rod ourselves of that vicious cycle is by cutting them out of our lives. As hard as it can be and trust me we understand that can be hard. We have had to cut family members out friends etc and it isn’t easy and most of the time we as humans, especially the emotional empathetic non narcissistic kind, end up letting them back in over and over and it always ends up the same in the end even if it is a different rout getting there. The best way to heal yourself is to love yourself. When we were at our lowest we had to revert back to square 1 - ourselves and be self serving until we liked the people we were then it was easier to cut those people out because we knew our worth and knew what we deserved in every relationship. Make your circle small and your focus you. If you even need anyone to talk to we are just a message away. Our email is in our description and there is no judgement here. Much Love!
I love the Poet and the Pendulum. It shows the insane quality level of all members of Nightwish. And what I really, really love is, well.... it is hard to explain. Hope it makes sense when I say that I don't believe Nightwish want to 'tell a story' in this song, I think they want to 'tell us something'. They provoke an emotion and challenge us to digest our own emotions and make our own story with those fundamental, raw, and tough emotional ingredients. I believe they (the band members) understand that profound concept and execute it with a rare high quality on all levels. When Nightwish performs this song, to me Nightwish it's not a group of awesome professional musicians making music together but more like one organism connected by their own willingness to open up and share their energy with each other and deliver something that activates your brain, makes your heart bounce and touches your soul.
‘An epic rollercoaster of emotion’. Got it in one after only two minutes. Loved your reaction, but now find out why Tuomas constructed that roller coaster.
One of the most amazing things about this performance is the fact that floor was nor was not in the band when all of the back story even happened but you but you would never know that bye by watching her performance you would think she was in the middle of everything and by the way floor is Flora is an admitted empath herself.......... Her story telling ability is just amazing she could seriously sell snow to an Eskimo
Could not agree more. I have seen so many reactions to this song, from people who knew the story behind it and from people who didn't. Some cried all the time, some were just headbanging and stopped the video at the wrong places (ehem) and missed the meaning of the lyrics completely. You guys did a really awesome job. Thank you very much!
We agree totally if the whole world didn’t need to experience this masterpiece then I would say put it in a museum in a booby trapped steel case with alarms and personal security so we can make sure it is recognized as just that - a Masterpiece. Thanks for your comment. Much Love
@@TheNEWReel Hi guys. Do you use Epica in your tags? Your Nightwish reactions popped out when I was searching for Epica reactions. Are you going to react to them? It's another great journey, just like with Nightwish, just heavier. Though, Epica also have many wonderful ballads and acoustic versions of their songs. Please let me know :]
I really appreciate the level you paid attention to the lyrics without knowing the deeper meaning behind those. One interesting point you missed was the 'story teller' saying Tuomas had only 3 minutes and counting, and exactly 3 minutes later the blade fell and Tuomas died (showing symbolic decapitation with his hand). A minor detail, but really cool thing in the song's composition.
This was the last time the band played this song, at Wembley arena in 2015-2016, they agreed that it was just too painful to Toumas to go through, as it is a song version of his suicide attempts, and feelings of Tarja leaving the band. We will not see another performance of this... probably ever.
Wow. You guys got the fundamental meaning of the lyrics and story without knowing everything behind the actual story. That’s awesome well done. Do the research into this amazing composition and then return to the song. It’s really deep and interesting. Only Nightwish can pull off this magic full of emotions from its audience 💥❤️🩹💥
Shame I didn't see or should I state: 'feel' your reaction on TPATP 10 months earlier! Had already subscribed some time back. Might I say that your interpretation and analyzation of this masterpiece stands way out above sooooo many on YT? Being too emphatic and super-sensitive is sometimes a curse and/or a blessing...both at the same time often occurs as well! Floor (starsign: Pisces) is an ultra empath...coincidentally I am Pisces too and I won't get rid of these strong feelings and predictive habits, hahah! Dealing with it...in fact it all makes ya just stronger and your life feels richer. Greetz, Rich, The Netherlands.
Greetings Fellow Piscean! I too am a Pisces (March) with a Cancer Moon, and my beautiful wife Brit is a Scorpio. Our Two Boys, one a Cancer and the other a Scorpio born on Brits Birthday makes us a family of Water signs lol You can probably already feel the emotion and sensitivity busting through the seams of the internet cus there is plenty of it over here! Thank you so much for taking the time to give us such awesome feedback. We caught some flak for not "Researching" before we experienced this masterpiece but we wouldn't have done it any other way. We enjoy going in blind so that we aren't conditioned or influenced by what the artists were trying to say etc. Although we did finally go back on a livestream and check out what the actual back story was a little while ago and the depth of this band never ceases to amaze. We have been so thoroughly impressed with this whole experience. Anyway thanks again and we will be back to releasing more videos soon, we have been out of town for a while as we had a death in the family. Thanks again. Much Love
@@TheNEWReel Haahhh, the Water-family! How nice to read from ya! Thanks for yer openness/sharing. Being vonourable could be a 'not too smart' thing these days...but, hey, some have to stay 'normal', haha! Sorry to read bout your family member passing. I all know too well from too many experiences myself...also recently..and also 'very' close. We have this band to seek comfort. Nightwish and related is a real blessing for many and if the music of this band would be the standard all over the globe, than we'd create a much better place to live in! Good luck and much love...ignore the negatives...they will never, never get acces to our lives🤟🤟🤟
love your thoughtful commentary, as I often tell people you don't need to do the research for a first listen...that comes after the first listen when you realise you have been touched and WANT to find out more! One of the more beautiful pieces of art in the metal world.
What a pleasure to watch two so very deeply feeling individuals reacting to the Poet and the Pendulum, perhaps the most emotional Nightwish song. To me this song is one of their best, with the variation of full force fast and sedate parts, including Floor's wonderfully versatile singing to suit the mood.
This was the best reaction I've ever seen from you guys - just as this song shows so much of Tuomas, you guys showed us another level of what you guys are all about. Even though you don't know the back story you pretty much nailed the emotional roller coaster that it represents. I have a feeling that most Nightwish fans are empaths like yourselves and Nightwish because you only really appreciate the full brilliance of their music if you feel it rather than just hearing it - it's not really about a catchy riff or a great guitar solo or drum pattern (although they have plenty of these), it's about emotion. As Tuomas said, Nightwish is the scenery of his soul, and if you don't feel that you won't get Nightwish 🤘
Thank you for this comment! Doing videos like this is why we’re started doing this channel. We are just fortunate that you fine people pointed us in the direction of NightWish! They are true ARTISTS and doing something as intricate and profound as this deserves the respect and hype it generates. We can’t wait for Wednesday! Thank you again - much love!
GREAT reaction guys! It's hard for me to not put the meaning and expound on it in here for yall lol! I'll try to catch the live stream on Wednesday to pitch in lol! I was sorry I missed the last one. Personally, I think its great to go into this song blind. There are benefits to researching it, but just as many benefits to go into it blind. I'm fine with either, and you guys did amazing. I'm an empath too, and understood this song as you did before I even knew there was a backstory to it. Kudos you two! Tuomas takes a lot of inspiration from literature/poetry, mythology, fantasy, real life experiences/emotions, and yes, the ocean. He often tackles deeper topics with his music. Weak fantasy is a great example - he takes some great stabs at organized religion and the church and all that's been done in its name in that one. I felt you guys on that reaction. I was raised in the church too. Here in The South, it's different from what I've seen in other parts of the country. I questioned things as a young girl, and I was told it was borderline blasphemy. I was 6. I just wanted to understand. Those experiences helped to shape my thoughts on G-d and religion as an adult - which isn't what your run of the mill "Southern Christian" thinks. It's always refreshing to hear others relay some of the very same things I've come to know and believe in that area. Always enjoy listening to you guys. You two remind me a lot of me and my husband. He's my twin flame, and I would be broken without him and our kids. It's just very nice to see another couple that seems to have what me and my hubby have. Yes, The Greatest Show On Earth is amazing too! It's also a journey, but not like this one. TGSOE is more a celebration of life and creation, and how it's evolved. Please try to do the version that is live from Tampere 2015. That one has some extras in it that are amazing. The Wembley version is amazing too (of course), but IMHO, I think the Tampere version is better suited for reactions, and the vocals have a little better volume, easier to follow. You can do one with lyrics if you like, they are important in understanding the song. It's totally up to you guys! As a side note, The Poet and the Pendulum (TPATP) is a song in a series of 3 dealing with the situation surrounding the reason for the creation of this song. This performance was from their amazing Wembley show. Bye Bye Beautiful (you'll need to do the official music video for this one, not a live version - Anette is wonderful as their singer, but she isnt great live, and they do not perform this with Floor - I'll explain why on Wednesdays live) and then Master Passion Greed. There is no live version of Master Padsion Greed as Tuomas has said those emotions are gone from him and it will never be played live for that reason. That one has only Marko on vocals. I will wait until Wesnesday's live to go into what they are about. Hopefully, I won't miss it! I'm a mod for another channel here on YT and he goes live on Wednesdays from 10:30-11:30 central time. So I'm REALLY hoping I can make it!!! All 3 of these songs are on their album titled Dark Passion Play. Anette was their lead on vocals for this album and for the Imaginarium album. She departed during the middle of the US leg of their tour for Imaginarium, and that's when Floor swooped in, saved the day, and brought Nightwish back to life. She had only 48 hours to learn that set list and she slayed it! There is a documentary titled Please Learn the Setlist in 48 hours here on YT that you guys can watch if you like! The Wacken 2013 show you've seen so much from was her first show for the European fans and she'd been in the band for about 8-10 months at that time. She and Troy were asked to be permanent members of the band after that show. There are so many amazing songs left for you guys to dive into! I can honestly say they don't have a horrible song. Of course, some I like less than others, but all of their music is well done! Hope you guys have had a wonderful day! Love. Light, and Blessings from me and my family to you and yours! Greetings from Alabama! Hope to catch yall Wednesday! G-d Bless yall!
Thank you Chad for your answer on my last comment. It meant a lot to me. As for anylising NW texts, Tuomas never explains them, because texts means different thing to different people he says. However.... I want you to set a timer when you hear, "3 minutes" being said. This just enhances the appreciation for his comlex works. Much Love to you, Britt and Ukraine 🌻🌻🌻💙💛💙
Appreciate all your analysis regarding the song. Very powerful message. Also, love your background setup, very nice (candles, lights, etc...). Thanks for the reaction guys, keep up the great work!
This reaction was really epic! Nightwish Army is the best. We all share this same love, no matter where you come from and how old you are. Also one old wisdom... The Valkyrie Goddess of Metal: making pop divas sound like they're farting on a snare drum.
UPDATE! ------- WE WERE UNABLE TO DO OUR INTENDED FOLLOW UP LIVESTREAM LAST WEDNESDAY DUE TO WORK BUT WE WILL BE DOING IT THIS WEDNESDAY! 11:00AM CENTRAL TIME U.S. - 5/25 - WE CANT WAIT TO FINALLY PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER! ALSO - After the livestream we will be responding to your comments. We wanted to make sure there were no spoilers so we have done our best to stay out of the comment section until after! See you all WEDNESDAY! MUCH LOVE!
Thnx for the update, could you pls let me know if this is gmt time and if it is am or pm? Thnxoxoxo
Grtz from the Netherlands
@@ikkeschopkont it will be Central standard time U.S. and we are looking to start around 11am give it take.
@@TheNEWReel thnx! for all Dutchies and north European out there... That is a diff of 7 hours. So our 23:00 will be 16:00 in the US and 11:00 am cst will be 18:00 in Amsterdam.
Aren't you a little old to be acting like teenagers?
After 2 years publicing I found your channel and I love your reaction. I think it was the titles of the videos I could not find your videos. As a semi fan from Finland and always come back to these songs as they were my childhood. They were hard to find.
"The White Lands of Empahtica" is a Dark Tower (Stephen King) reference. It's a frozen land where the residents can feel and share the emotions of others.
Tuomas often talks about his connection to the Ocean, referring to himself in an earlier song as an “Ocean Soul.” The Pacific continues this theme, and the music matches the ocean's name, meaning “Peaceful.” #lotd "The Ever Free” refers to a Victorian Era poem by Barry Cornwall, “The Sea.” Reading that poem helps a lot when trying to understand Thomas’ connection to the ocean.
Tuomas says the last section, "Mother and Father" is almost a direct quote from his mother, the 'death" was metaphorical, this was his mom pulling him out of that depression.
Brittany..... it's okay to admit it like this. This song has not only got you but has got plenty of us also. I bet many nightwish army will admit to it too. it gets me every single time I listen to this song.
So true!
This one song gets me everytime
I still cry at the end, man. It gets me everytime even after thousand times of listening.
It's a healing relief.
Got all of us…❤
Me before seeing the video: Just randomly stumbled upon this and as a Member of Nightwish Army I had to click on it. However, this song is a tough one, I personally like it when people do not research the story first just because it shows how briliant this song really is because it tells his own story. You get the right feelings and emotions just by listening (which is absolutely Floors amazing ability to touch human souls with her voice) to it, you don't even need the lyrics to understand the drama. However, you should look up the story afterwards to be amazed how close you were to understand what's going on without knwoing it ;-)
Me after seeing the video: Nailed it ...!
Also me: Cryin' like a baby ... every time I hear this song! I love it! I can literally feel music and this one feels so freakin' good even tho it's pretty dark.
very very cool reaction,
greetings from the Nightwish Army from Germany :-)
Hey guys!!! There's not so much to say. I'm a grown man and I saw this thousends of times and every single time I cry. Thanks for try to understand the meaning of this song. Greettings from Argentina. Sorry for my English.
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment! We are still going to do another video to continue off of this one where we do the research and find out the back story behind it. We have just got behind the past couple of months as real life interrupts the fun sometimes lol thanks again and Much Love
This is the most wonderfull reaction to this beautifull Masterpeace
Thnxy
Greetings from Germany
Wow, thank you!
Floor being an empathic vocalist. How hard was this on her emotions knowing this was about Tuomas. She felt every word.He was saved by his own mom and dad.
Guys - I am a bit speachless right here.... I have seen this video now for at least 100 times and never been able to not have tears . And I am really blessed to now have seen your reaction because it is so profound mentally and really gave me chills. You are such an adorable couple with so much empathy and inner knowledge that I can find no more words. Sorry if my words don't make sense as I am from germany and my english might be filled with wrong words or phrases.... Keep on reacting, I will follow.
My Queen casual mass healing internet people and some band members.... Floor Floorever
You and the song was so great !
Thank you. I felt every second of your reactions and of course the master piece.
🤗🍒👍🏻😘thanks for sharing your emotions💕
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting lyrics and composition never ceases to amaze me. 3 minutes exactly from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ is when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat.This is just an amazing piece of music art!🤘🤘
Kai in Beast Mode on the drum kit🤘🤘
Loved your analysis of the song, the best I've heard
This song gets me every time
This is probably the _one_ song you shouldve researched.
Knowing the meaning behind it changes *_everything._*
Nightwish Army Manila Appreciates
I love the way you guys like to open these lyrics...
Do you know how you can tell that your reaction to the song is "real"?
The longer the song went on, the calmer, quieter and more emotional you became! A reaction that people just really believe!
You also read a lot of the song correctly without knowing the exact background. Congratulations and thank you!
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"The end.......... The beginning"
And Helluwa Lot in between!
🤘😎 🇫🇮 💙
I just wanted to say I love the two of you. 😊
Power of Nightwish!
Fantastic reaction, thank you
Very well reaction guys ... I give it a 3rd TIER ...
Since you obviously didn't know the real reason why the song was written, you were so wonderful to listen to as you dissected it and were surprisingly on point - bravo!
I love ya’lls lyric analysis. One of the best channels I’ve found with how deep y’all go. KUDOS
Thank you so much for the kind words! We are fans of music AND the actual art of music and song writing. Its Awesome to hear a great song and be able to see different people relate to the lyrics in many different ways... Thanks for watching! Much Love
The story that Tuomas is telling is the hell he went thru with Nightwishes 1st Singer Tarja and how he had to basically let her go (fire her). Tuomas the musical writer/genius behind Nightwish and wrote and open letter explainging why he let Tarja go. Tarja several days later wrote a open letter to. You should read both open letters to understand this song Poet and the Pendulum. Tuamos is the one that uses this song to die, because he did not want to fire Tarja, but because of the turmoil she was causing, he had to fire her!
It's clear you two didn't do the research into the backstory, yet are still able to pick up on the meaning of the song. Well done.
This song was based around the Edgar Allen Poe short horror story, "The Pit and the Pendulum". Both of you are very deep level thinkers when it comes to understanding the poetic and metaphoric meanings to this song. Great job without knowing the full back story.
Yes, Too-ohmas is the main song writer and the focus of these lyrics. Tuomas does relate to many of the different aspects that can be metaphorically represented by water in all of its different forms.
The blade also represents the sharp tongues and criticism from the press and all of the fans who loved and revered Tarja as the Nightwish front woman.
IMHO, I feel that Tuomas actually had to kill off and bury a small piece of his soul to be able to move forward with his dream. A new version of Nightwish.
Mother & Father were some actual words of comfort and advice for Tuomas as he was attempting to deal with all of the fallout and his emotional turmoil. "The End" of the first version of Nightwish,. Which opened the way for "The Beginning" of the new Nightwish!
Sorry if I said too much.
Simply put, "A Masterpiece" of musical artistic composition.
WE ARE GOING TO BE RESEARCHING THE TRUE MEANING TO THIS SONG IN OUR NEXT LIVESTREAM ON NIGHTWISH WEDNESDAY! WE WILL BE REFRAINING FROM READING ANY COMMENTS THAT APPEAR AS THEY ARE GOING TO TELL US ANY INFO ON THE MEANING OR CREATION OF THIS SONG UNTIL AFTER WEDNESDAY. SO IF WE DONT REPLY TO YOUR COMMENT JUST KNOW WE WILL READ IT BUT AFTER THE LIVESTREAM BECAUSE WE LIKE OUR VIDEOS AND LIVESTREAMS TO BE AUTHENTIC AND WE WANT TO DISCOVER THE REAL STORY TO THIS ONE WITH ALL OF YOU! - THANK YOU ALL FOR WATCHING, CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU WEDNESDAY AT 11AM CENTRAL TIME U.S. FOR THE CONCLUSION OF THIS VIDEO LIVE!
good choice it will give you a whole different view of the song, I will add only one thing from the part he says 3min and counting it's exactly 3min till the end of that part
Sounds good!
I think this was a spectacular reaction and analysis. Thank you, Chad and Brittany, I love guys. Btw, still trying to figure out how to send some pics from when I saw them in Toronto. I also can’t wait until you react to a live version of Shoemaker.
@@bytemeleew ...and just to play spoiler... No shoes involved. Rather, look up to the night sky...
Do not worry
Such a powerful song
Just cry...... tears will cleane your soul. You beautiful people.
Next one should be "Yours is an Empty Hope"
We will be sure to check it out next! We planned on doing the greatest show on earth very soon as well! Thank you for the suggestion! - Much Love!
@@TheNEWReel Greatest Show On Earth needs to be at or near the end because of it's length.
Father and mother hits everybody since they use words everybody wants to hear from their parents in times of turmoil.
Simple honest words of love.
Absolutely fantastic reaction and analysis, thank you
Thank you for the kind words
Great analysis guys!
Great reaction guys. We all have an emotional bond with Nightwish which is probably why we obbsess a lot about this band and why the Nightwish army are so passionate and caring. Love you guys and Thank you.
Hello New Reel.
The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is guilt for what happened, there is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen.
However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does.
The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly.
Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen
Greetings from the Netherlands
This is one of the interpretations and i know lots of fans do not agree, they just need to read the open letter that was given to Tarja by the whole band at her last concert with Nightwish, where they fired her. And the main reason that Tuomas went through a depression was that specially the Tarja fans where furious and showed that in the media and everyone was blaming Tuomas. (the fans spit on his grave). He felt the whole world was against him.
@@roborange159 That's the thing about a well-written song. Yes those are the events that inspired this song. But Tuomas was skillful enough to create layers within this masterpiece that many of us can relate to and feel emotionally involved.
NightWish is the best band ever PERIOD.
So glad Tuomas is still with us to bring us this fantastic music.
Im almost 7ft tall, doing fighting sports and grow a big black beard. and the last part always hits me right in the heart and i start crying like a little baby.
One of the best analysis of the lyrics! The entire Nightwish production is beyond compare but many “ignore” (pay no attention to the) lyrics! Tuomas and co-writers are absolutely brilliant - deeper story, meaning in ever musical experience they create! 💙 Nightwish 💙🇫🇮
To us, a person can’t hear a song without “HEARING” the lyrics, the melody/music is only part of the creation, so not acknowledging the actual lyrics is like experiencing only half the song & when it comes to Nightwish, how anybody could not have words to speak of their words is beyond us cuz their songwriting & performing is beyond what us mere mortals could hope to create lol so instead while others just nod & enjoy the song, we get to fully grasp the entire experience by taking our time to feel the comprehension 🫶🏻 glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time to watch & comment, much love!
Awesome reaction you two. I like that you hadn't researched it first.
My own interpretation of the last part is that after all the depression and suicidal ideation he went home and his parents gave him support and hope. The last words of the song being "The beginning".
By the way, I have a good cry every time I listen to this masterpiece.
Yeah ❤️ you2 are awsome persons to read that pain in the song from Tuomas 🎹 ❤️👏i love when the members Emppu 🎸 and Marko check on Tuomas that hi feels ok they all know what is a hard song for Tuomas ❤️❤️🇸🇪 THX for a stunning good reaction on Nightwish ❤️👏👏👏🇸🇪🇺🇲
For people who don't know the story behind this song I can tell you did one of the best analyses I've seen (heard) till now. You got fundamentally what about it is.
Some details if you are interested of... " In the year of our Lord 2005" the band parted ways with their first singer Tarja because of some personal disagreements with an open letter (you can find it in the net) published to the fans explaining the reason behind this action. Because of her voice and operatic way of singing Tarja had become iconic for the fandom setting how Nightwish sound like. Although it was done with unanimous decision of all members Tuomas being the leader of the band took the entire backlash from the fans, the media, friends and even had a phone call with the Finnish prime minister back then.. As a sensitive person that led him to a depression and even some suicidal thoughts. He felt betrayed and felt all he did till then being lost(1000 pages of erased text). That psychological turmoil he associated with the Poe's " Pit and the pendullum" story like descending sharpened pendullum above your head and brought these suicidal thoughts. Instead of doing it in real life he wrote the song being his metaphorical death to remove the load and start a new beginning. The last part "Mother and Father" contains actual words by his parents who together with one of his friends(as far as I know) helped him get over it\. That is the short story and this song is probably their most emotional masterpiece..
OH MY GOSH !!! Without knowing the background of this song you did a phenomenal job on your interpretation of this story. You are very profound and sympathetic people. Thanks for this great reaction - looking forward to more !
Thank you so much. We can’t wait until Wednesday! We were very fortunate to find each other over a decade ago, and since then we have been able to rely on each offer both intellectually and emotionally, and that helps tremendously when you are trying to work on yourself as a person and develop a trust for your intuitions. We realized a long time ago that love is the answer and it starts with loving yourself. Thank you for the comment hope you have an amazing day! -Much Love!
This is my fav Nightwish song of all time. I have listened so many times, but still in tears.
Damn, if this is really your first watch, you're both sharp as a knife for catching all that. Kudo's for that!
Thank you for a beautiful reaction . Nightwish hits you in many ways. This piece of music is amazing ❤️
Guys, totally loved your reaction, you are both so insightful and descriptive. I am so lucky to have seen this, take care and big love, from Scotland ❤
For Nightwish fans , this song is the most meaningful... I have seen plenty reactors fail to do this song justice, but you guys (first time reaction wise) did Great, Solid A . This songs backstory is deep and dark , especially for Tuomas (suicide by song). So dig deep (both letters and some interviews) ! And yet, Floor took this song to a new astral level (originally sung by Anette). Also I recommend to read "The Pit and The Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe for extra flavor...
The reason for Tuomas’ depression was not the firing of Tarja ( First singer of Nightwish )itself, it was what came after that. The fans idolized Tarja and they could not accept the fact that she got fired. In their heads Tarja was the one that made the band famous and they became really angry and hostile, especially towards Tuomas. They really took it out on him. They called him all kinds of ugly things and a lot of them expressed that they did not care if he would die. These are the things that brought him into depression and these are the things that echo through the lyrics.
However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Tuomas but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does.
There is more ,...but in do time ....
Nuff Said !!!!
NWSU 🤘😎🤘
Great job . In short this is 5 steps of depression from the loss of his life long friend and band mate Tarja (1st singer) & the grief the media and fans gave him the 1st two words "The End" represents the end of the Tarja era & the last "The Beginning" represents the starting of the new Nightwish . Mother & father are words spoken to him to help him by his parents to move on
Hallo Robert, in my opinon, this nothing to do with Tarja ,more, after the time the Band fired her. And it is the whole Band.fired her, but Tuomas become all the hate from all sides ( my fav Boy, the Finnish Prime Minister)
@@ralfmeyer9086 Your right I was trying to make it short but I failed . Thanks Ralf
@@robertsheeler321 Hope, you are feeling well. With a great 🤘from northern Germany ( to NY, or i am wrong friend 🤔🤔)
@@ralfmeyer9086 . PA . thanks my friend . I have bad COPD and when its hot out it makes it real difficult to breath .
@@robertsheeler321 oh, f..k. A severe disease. My Mom had them too. I only can say , Fight. Never give up🤘
One of the best reactions to PATP I've had the privilege to see... On point, guys! Best wishes from Namibia
Thank you so much for the kind words! We really do appreciate the support and can’t wait until Wednesday so we can finally get the backstory and find out the True meaning! Hope to see you there!
@@TheNEWReel Hi 😊 I love your channel and your videos very much!😊❤️ I want to recommend a band called Sabaton that comes from Falun in Sweden!🇸🇪 It's my favorite band!😎❤️🤘🤘 I think you would like them very much!😊 I really love Nightwish too!❤️🤘🤘 Kind regards from northern Sweden 🇸🇪
Floor’s greatest strength is her storytelling. The song is cathartic.
Indeed! And also her empathy, as a classical composer said: Floor has a rare inborn gift to connect with the emotion of the song, and transfer that to the listener. That and is the secret of what she does.. (and singing technique is only a tool for that)
toumas Beg his Audio Ingenieure to turn down his in ear Hedgefonds the say floors GEORGES vocals was a absolut Hart braking for him .
This one of the best reactions to this master piece! You got it almost all. I won't tell you what you missed (which is not much) so I will not spoil it for you! And yes this song gets me every time, even the way she looks at Toumas at the end and says "thankyou" to the audience!
Once you do the research, you might be surprised how incredibly accurate you were. The motivation behind the song is nearly impossible to determine unless you know the history of the band, so your insight was remarkable. It's so much fun to see somebody else experience the passion I felt upon hearing the song for the first time. Thank you for sharing this brief moment in your life with us.
This is by far me favorite nightwish song. It's a rollercoaster of feelings emotions that few songs can make you feel.
Very nice moment spent with you guys. Thank you. Looking forward to Wednesday.
You 2 have broken down this masterpiece and got the feelings master writer Tuomas had. Massive respect and love from the netherlands
Thank you so much! We can’t wait for Wednesday so we can put all the pieces together!
One of the best breakdown for this song I've heard, thank you so much. BTW many of us cry whenever we hear it. Will be seeing them in 5 days, sort of glad it's not on the set list. I listen to this one alone. Be well.
Thank you for the kind words! Hop you have an amazing night with Nightwish! What fun! Much Love to you!
That was a fantastic reaction, thanx you two :)
I must have heard this song at least 100 times, probably much more.. but i still get misty eyed at the end.
Woo! Watching this again with two fellow empaths is intense! This song always gets me teary-eyed, but you guys really turned up the volume! It's good though, very cathartic.
The Poet and the Pendulum is like a Book wirh 5 Chapters . Nightwish play Poet and the Pendulum only on the Wembley Show and than never againe . In the last chapter mother and father he discureib a real Conversation with his mom . Nihtwish fan from North Germany Reportet 🤘 🤘
Not so, in 2016 they played it in Madrid. th-cam.com/video/FXa47wyCWZM/w-d-xo.html
One of the best reactions for this song I've seen. Your understanding for the lyrics baffled me. I'm also an empath and an introvert. You mentioned "shower meditation" and I wanna know more about that.
Nightwish Army UK popping in for a great reaction, very inciteful and emotional.
As an empath myself, after having a job that absolutely broke me apart, I had to turn to medication to get out of the most crippling depression you can imagine. It's hell sometimes.
This song represents the phases we go through to get out. I'm so glad we still have Tuomas's art to make us all happy in this life. I love you guys, you are awesome, great reaction. Big kiss to you both 💛💛💛💛💛
Still struggling with fuckin’ depression and anxiety!! An outsider with no job, loser, no freedom, having much fears and frustrations and losses!! I can’t stand life!! Though i tried many solutions, and i’m still trying!!
There is no shame in needing help to save yourself from a darkness like that, medication, friends or otherwise. On of the most horrible thoughts I could have for someone in that kind of depression is not doing anything to try to get out of it, or not having the will to even try. One of the great poisons in this world is having to hamster wheel ourselves to death. We have to pay for things we already own (taxes) we have to pay for things we shouldn’t have to pay for ( water, warmth) I don’t even think we should have to pay for most foods minus having someone prepare them for us like going to a restaurant or a diner that I understand but the societies we as humans are conditioned by and the governments that control the aspects of those societies will always make it to where we feel like we have to work our lives away doing things that snuff out creativity, kill our ambition, destroy our dreams and I could keep going and going with things that we do to ourselves with the objective to just survive or keep our family from falling into the red. So there is nothing but praise to you from us for being able to get yourself through such a dark time in your life however you had to do it. We are so appreciative of your support and thank you so much for commenting we had to take the summer off from the channel due to unforeseen issues that came up within the family, so we are sorry it took us so long to respond. Thanks again and music is healing in so many ways. It brings people together in times when we can be so far apart. This one is truly amazing and awe inspiring. Much love to you.
@Osama depression doesn’t define you it controls you and dictates thoughts that wouldn’t normally be yours. There is no shame in feeling that way. I don’t want to come off as I am preaching to you because I am not I am coming to you as a person that accepts you. I can’t say I understand how you feel because That wouldn’t help you anyway what I can say is that life is a struggle and sometimes unfair and dark and not at all like what we thought it was going to be. But the beautiful thing about life is that we can allow ourselves second third chances if we can learn from the lessons life gives us, no matter how hard they are or how long it takes. Just know that there is a place for all of us in the world and we sincerely hope you get to experience the amazing parts of life as well. We will keep you in our thoughts and send positive thoughts your way. Much Love to you
@@TheNEWReel life is a nightmare, most of the things are exhausting, scary, painful, sad and hard, lonely!! I don’t how people can stand it!!! Anyway, i’m still trying, but most people often are so fuckin’ conditionally loving or respecting, and they don’t want to hear dark or sad things, and deadly powerless and arrogant and controlling and overly selfish (not being selfish in the natural way of giving and receiving)!!! Anyway, i’m trying now to fix it! I’ve been like this fir 6 years!!! Anyway, thx for your words
We can definitely relate, the best advice we can give out of experience is if the people in your life are conditional with love as well as all of the things you wrote you are most likely dealing with narcissistic people and the only way we have found to rod ourselves of that vicious cycle is by cutting them out of our lives. As hard as it can be and trust me we understand that can be hard. We have had to cut family members out friends etc and it isn’t easy and most of the time we as humans, especially the emotional empathetic non narcissistic kind, end up letting them back in over and over and it always ends up the same in the end even if it is a different rout getting there. The best way to heal yourself is to love yourself. When we were at our lowest we had to revert back to square 1 - ourselves and be self serving until we liked the people we were then it was easier to cut those people out because we knew our worth and knew what we deserved in every relationship. Make your circle small and your focus you. If you even need anyone to talk to we are just a message away. Our email is in our description and there is no judgement here. Much Love!
I love the Poet and the Pendulum. It shows the insane quality level of all members of Nightwish. And what I really, really love is, well.... it is hard to explain. Hope it makes sense when I say that I don't believe Nightwish want to 'tell a story' in this song, I think they want to 'tell us something'. They provoke an emotion and challenge us to digest our own emotions and make our own story with those fundamental, raw, and tough emotional ingredients. I believe they (the band members) understand that profound concept and execute it with a rare high quality on all levels. When Nightwish performs this song, to me Nightwish it's not a group of awesome professional musicians making music together but more like one organism connected by their own willingness to open up and share their energy with each other and deliver something that activates your brain, makes your heart bounce and touches your soul.
Honestly guys you pretty much nailed the meanings and considering you don't know the back story, that is absolutely amazing. Excellent reaction
‘An epic rollercoaster of emotion’. Got it in one after only two minutes. Loved your reaction, but now find out why Tuomas constructed that roller coaster.
One of the most amazing things about this performance is the fact that floor was nor was not in the band when all of the back story even happened but you but you would never know that bye by watching her performance you would think she was in the middle of everything and by the way floor is Flora is an admitted empath herself.......... Her story telling ability is just amazing she could seriously sell snow to an Eskimo
Loved your lyrical analysis, one of the best I've seen. This song is a masterpiece.
Thank you! Swing by Wednesday for the conclusion to this video during our Nightwish Wednesday Livestream
Could not agree more. I have seen so many reactions to this song, from people who knew the story behind it and from people who didn't. Some cried all the time, some were just headbanging and stopped the video at the wrong places (ehem) and missed the meaning of the lyrics completely. You guys did a really awesome job. Thank you very much!
Hey sweet rap fans . This is a masterpiece . great reaction .
We agree totally if the whole world didn’t need to experience this masterpiece then I would say put it in a museum in a booby trapped steel case with alarms and personal security so we can make sure it is recognized as just that - a Masterpiece. Thanks for your comment. Much Love
@@TheNEWReel Hi guys. Do you use Epica in your tags? Your Nightwish reactions popped out when I was searching for Epica reactions. Are you going to react to them? It's another great journey, just like with Nightwish, just heavier. Though, Epica also have many wonderful ballads and acoustic versions of their songs. Please let me know :]
It always gets to me at the end: ‘tried to save them all’…
It’s a beautiful masterpiece and we are so lucky to have Floor to perform it.
I really appreciate the level you paid attention to the lyrics without knowing the deeper meaning behind those. One interesting point you missed was the 'story teller' saying Tuomas had only 3 minutes and counting, and exactly 3 minutes later the blade fell and Tuomas died (showing symbolic decapitation with his hand). A minor detail, but really cool thing in the song's composition.
This is one of the best blind reactions to this song I have ever seen! Looking forward to the live stream, well done!
You guys did splendidly, loved it. Cheers from Amsterdam!
This was the last time the band played this song, at Wembley arena in 2015-2016, they agreed that it was just too painful to Toumas to go through, as it is a song version of his suicide attempts, and feelings of Tarja leaving the band. We will not see another performance of this... probably ever.
I was here and yes I cried again. I love this song. There is no right or wrong interperatation of a Nightwish song. They are all correct. Peace.
Wow. You guys got the fundamental meaning of the lyrics and story without knowing everything behind the actual story. That’s awesome well done. Do the research into this amazing composition and then return to the song. It’s really deep and interesting.
Only Nightwish can pull off this magic full of emotions from its audience 💥❤️🩹💥
BEST REACTION EVER !!! 🤍
Guys You absolutely nailed it !!! 🙌
Can't wait to watch you on Wednesday 🤙
Shame I didn't see or should I state: 'feel' your reaction on TPATP 10 months earlier! Had already subscribed some time back. Might I say that your interpretation and analyzation of this masterpiece stands way out above sooooo many on YT? Being too emphatic and super-sensitive is sometimes a curse and/or a blessing...both at the same time often occurs as well! Floor (starsign: Pisces) is an ultra empath...coincidentally I am Pisces too and I won't get rid of these strong feelings and predictive habits, hahah! Dealing with it...in fact it all makes ya just stronger and your life feels richer. Greetz, Rich, The Netherlands.
Greetings Fellow Piscean! I too am a Pisces (March) with a Cancer Moon, and my beautiful wife Brit is a Scorpio. Our Two Boys, one a Cancer and the other a Scorpio born on Brits Birthday makes us a family of Water signs lol You can probably already feel the emotion and sensitivity busting through the seams of the internet cus there is plenty of it over here! Thank you so much for taking the time to give us such awesome feedback. We caught some flak for not "Researching" before we experienced this masterpiece but we wouldn't have done it any other way. We enjoy going in blind so that we aren't conditioned or influenced by what the artists were trying to say etc. Although we did finally go back on a livestream and check out what the actual back story was a little while ago and the depth of this band never ceases to amaze. We have been so thoroughly impressed with this whole experience. Anyway thanks again and we will be back to releasing more videos soon, we have been out of town for a while as we had a death in the family. Thanks again. Much Love
@@TheNEWReel Haahhh, the Water-family! How nice to read from ya! Thanks for yer openness/sharing. Being vonourable could be a 'not too smart' thing these days...but, hey, some have to stay 'normal', haha! Sorry to read bout your family member passing. I all know too well from too many experiences myself...also recently..and also 'very' close. We have this band to seek comfort.
Nightwish and related is a real blessing for many and if the music of this band would be the standard all over the globe, than we'd create a much better place to live in!
Good luck and much love...ignore the negatives...they will never, never get acces to our lives🤟🤟🤟
Metaphorical death. 😊 But what an emotional masterpiece. Always tears at the end. Damn Floor 😂 TGSOE Tampere.
Holy crap 😭
You just did the very best reaction for this song I've ever seen and heard. Pretty much on point all the way.
Thank you.
love your thoughtful commentary, as I often tell people you don't need to do the research for a first listen...that comes after the first listen when you realise you have been touched and WANT to find out more! One of the more beautiful pieces of art in the metal world.
It is good to see that I am not the only person crying during this sond. I love this great reaction.
What a pleasure to watch two so very deeply feeling individuals reacting to the Poet and the Pendulum, perhaps the most emotional Nightwish song. To me this song is one of their best, with the variation of full force fast and sedate parts, including Floor's wonderfully versatile singing to suit the mood.
Well... wow you guys were spot on best analysis ive watched, this performance makes me cry each time you guys are great♡
This was the best reaction I've ever seen from you guys - just as this song shows so much of Tuomas, you guys showed us another level of what you guys are all about. Even though you don't know the back story you pretty much nailed the emotional roller coaster that it represents. I have a feeling that most Nightwish fans are empaths like yourselves and Nightwish because you only really appreciate the full brilliance of their music if you feel it rather than just hearing it - it's not really about a catchy riff or a great guitar solo or drum pattern (although they have plenty of these), it's about emotion. As Tuomas said, Nightwish is the scenery of his soul, and if you don't feel that you won't get Nightwish 🤘
Thank you for this comment! Doing videos like this is why we’re started doing this channel. We are just fortunate that you fine people pointed us in the direction of NightWish! They are true ARTISTS and doing something as intricate and profound as this deserves the respect and hype it generates. We can’t wait for Wednesday! Thank you again - much love!
@@TheNEWReel 🤘🙂🤘
great reacción guys ….i saw 👀 yours reacción i love guys continue with these amazing band
Wow, very good and deep reaction. I mean, Tuomas like it. You are in his Lyrics
Hugs from S. FL! Great analysis!!! I learned from it!!! ❤️❤️❤️
GREAT reaction guys! It's hard for me to not put the meaning and expound on it in here for yall lol! I'll try to catch the live stream on Wednesday to pitch in lol! I was sorry I missed the last one.
Personally, I think its great to go into this song blind. There are benefits to researching it, but just as many benefits to go into it blind. I'm fine with either, and you guys did amazing. I'm an empath too, and understood this song as you did before I even knew there was a backstory to it. Kudos you two!
Tuomas takes a lot of inspiration from literature/poetry, mythology, fantasy, real life experiences/emotions, and yes, the ocean. He often tackles deeper topics with his music. Weak fantasy is a great example - he takes some great stabs at organized religion and the church and all that's been done in its name in that one. I felt you guys on that reaction. I was raised in the church too. Here in The South, it's different from what I've seen in other parts of the country. I questioned things as a young girl, and I was told it was borderline blasphemy. I was 6. I just wanted to understand. Those experiences helped to shape my thoughts on G-d and religion as an adult - which isn't what your run of the mill "Southern Christian" thinks. It's always refreshing to hear others relay some of the very same things I've come to know and believe in that area. Always enjoy listening to you guys. You two remind me a lot of me and my husband. He's my twin flame, and I would be broken without him and our kids. It's just very nice to see another couple that seems to have what me and my hubby have.
Yes, The Greatest Show On Earth is amazing too! It's also a journey, but not like this one. TGSOE is more a celebration of life and creation, and how it's evolved. Please try to do the version that is live from Tampere 2015. That one has some extras in it that are amazing. The Wembley version is amazing too (of course), but IMHO, I think the Tampere version is better suited for reactions, and the vocals have a little better volume, easier to follow. You can do one with lyrics if you like, they are important in understanding the song. It's totally up to you guys!
As a side note, The Poet and the Pendulum (TPATP) is a song in a series of 3 dealing with the situation surrounding the reason for the creation of this song. This performance was from their amazing Wembley show. Bye Bye Beautiful (you'll need to do the official music video for this one, not a live version - Anette is wonderful as their singer, but she isnt great live, and they do not perform this with Floor - I'll explain why on Wednesdays live) and then Master Passion Greed. There is no live version of Master Padsion Greed as Tuomas has said those emotions are gone from him and it will never be played live for that reason. That one has only Marko on vocals. I will wait until Wesnesday's live to go into what they are about. Hopefully, I won't miss it! I'm a mod for another channel here on YT and he goes live on Wednesdays from 10:30-11:30 central time. So I'm REALLY hoping I can make it!!! All 3 of these songs are on their album titled Dark Passion Play. Anette was their lead on vocals for this album and for the Imaginarium album. She departed during the middle of the US leg of their tour for Imaginarium, and that's when Floor swooped in, saved the day, and brought Nightwish back to life. She had only 48 hours to learn that set list and she slayed it! There is a documentary titled Please Learn the Setlist in 48 hours here on YT that you guys can watch if you like! The Wacken 2013 show you've seen so much from was her first show for the European fans and she'd been in the band for about 8-10 months at that time. She and Troy were asked to be permanent members of the band after that show.
There are so many amazing songs left for you guys to dive into! I can honestly say they don't have a horrible song. Of course, some I like less than others, but all of their music is well done! Hope you guys have had a wonderful day! Love. Light, and Blessings from me and my family to you and yours! Greetings from Alabama! Hope to catch yall Wednesday! G-d Bless yall!
you got the emotion and it showed :-)
That was an emotional RIDE lol can’t wait until Wednesday so we can conclude the whole experience with the Backstory. Thanks for the support!
Thank you Chad for your answer on my last comment. It meant a lot to me.
As for anylising NW texts, Tuomas never explains them, because texts means different thing to different people he says.
However.... I want you to set a timer when you hear, "3 minutes" being said. This just enhances the appreciation for his comlex works.
Much Love to you, Britt and Ukraine
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Nice I’ve been waiting for this one, love u guys!! :)
Appreciate all your analysis regarding the song. Very powerful message. Also, love your background setup, very nice (candles, lights, etc...). Thanks for the reaction guys, keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! - Much Love!
This reaction was really epic! Nightwish Army is the best. We all share this same love, no matter where you come from and how old you are.
Also one old wisdom...
The Valkyrie Goddess of Metal: making pop divas sound like they're farting on a snare drum.