How We're Growing TONS of Cherries in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA! | Planting Low Chill Cherry Trees
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- Cherries and other stone fruit are often out of reach in warm climates because of required "chill hours". These often require a winter chill hour count of 600-800 hours at temps between 32 and 45 degrees F. That would NEVER work in a warm climate like Southern California where we usually get only a couple hundred chill hours. That has changed! I planted a couple recently introduced "low chill" cherry trees named "Royal Lee" and "Minnie Royal", who reliably produce with 200-300 chill hours and pollinate each other. In this video, I share more on how this works, as well as planting the new "Royal Crimson" cherry which serves as another pollinator for both other cherries, as well as producing a great crop itself.
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Planting low chill cherry trees makes growing your own cherry accesible in a warm climate like Southern California. Learning how to grow cherries isn't that much different than other stone fruit. For our climate the cherry tree we selected is "minnie royal" cherry along with a "Royal lee" cherry tree. In this video I planted a royal crimson sold by Dave Wilson Nursery. Using cherry tree pruning, I made room for the royal crimson cherry, in the same grouping as minnie royal lee cherry. Keeping the trees so close is high density planting, sometimes called backyard orchard culture (similar to what's seen on iv organic or with DWN's Tom Spellman). My orchard no has 60 or so orchard trees, and all are orchard fruit trees. The Minnie royal cherry tree is used for cherry pollination which is a must when planting cherry trees like minnie royal. A backyard orchard is so rewarding, filling up the space with tasty fruit trees. If you haven't been planting fruit trees in backyard, don't feel intimidated. Just plan on a couple and do it! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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I planted a bing cherry a year ago here in riverside (zone 9b). I had no idea they needed so much chill hours…
Thanks for your video. Today I finally bought and planted my Royal Crimson Cherry tree.
Hope it grows!
I love it! 😃
It will grow. farmers in california grow lots of them
Beautiful garden! I hope one day my garden is going to like yours!
Thanks! You can do it!
Thanks for all usefull info, I live in The Bahamas and love cherries. I'm glad theres a cherry besides the Barbados cherry tree that i can plant and enjoy
Wow I’m so glad i found you today. I just bought a new Royal cherry to go with my mini Royal. I need to figure out how close together they can be. I’m in Encinitas CA. Thanks so much❤️
Welcome, Vicki! I've got mine planted 3 feet from trunk to trunk. You can go as close as 18 inches if need be, but there is a trade off the closer they get. Have you checked my vid on high density planting?
Nicely explained.
Thank you! 😀
Cherries are one of my favorite stone fruits.
We love them, and the kiddos go cuckoo for them.
would liked to have heard some discussion on the preferred soil type of cherry trees.
Hi Brandon, that's something to consider, for sure.
Just got my Mini Royal and Royal Lee today in zone 9b. I think I am going to fan them on my my fence.
That's a great idea! Espalier training like on a fence will be beautiful when they bloom, especially. Might make the tasty little fruit that much for visible to birds though!
Just put a cherry tree in the geound yesterday. Do i need to put anything like grafting wax on the wound or will it be fine?
Hi Cameron Would you be able to share some Scion woods of Minnie royal and royal lee cherries. I have stella cherry 2 year old but looks like it may not bloom because of insufficient chill hours in southern California. I am planning to graft royal lee and minnie lee on it. Appreciate if you do share some scion wood. Thanks
Hey Cameron, Im not sure if youve learnt this yet but when you plant a tree you need ot face the graft union NORTH. It essentially helps protect a "weak spot" from burning in summer
YES! I ideal try to plant like that, although the direction of my desired branches wins out. There are definitely some tradeoffs when close-planting trees. I hope to minimize any possible danger by whitewashing.
I hear you that tree shape plays a big role in how we want them to look in our garden. I live in the coachella Valley so whitewashing is essential and I’m an organic Gardner so ‘IV organic’ make an organic non toxic paint. I can tell you I see a huge difference in young new growth that gets scorched in our hot July/august months vs the painted branches. I love natural bark but after about 4 yrs the tree grows so big all the paint essentially naturally strips off. Once you have a good canopy, the tree will shield itself. Good luck!
Just paint the trunk.
What bees are u taking about? Are you talking about me and my paintbrush lol I don’t wait for no bee, I go out there and paint a masterpiece lol Picasso
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Do you have any recommendations on the best way to trim a royal crimson? I have one that only gave me one cherry on the last two years. It’s stand about 10 plus’s feet up but grows more up then out due to the sun exposure. I was thinking it having trouble with cherry production due to its pushing its branch’s up. Thank you for your videos and all you do!
Be sure to check out my playlist on pruning! I like to keep all of my stone fruit pruned short (under 8 feet) and bushy
I live in Ramona, SOCAL, where a couple of the summer months often get in the 100+°, with some winter night months getting down in the 30's/40's.
Which variety of cherry would you reommend? I'm thinking a combination of Minnie Royal", "Royal Lee", "Royal Crimson", would be best for our families needs.
Thank you for your inspiring video.
Thanks so much, Catryna! I have those three cherries planted, and have been having great results so far!
@@TheBusyGardener Thank you. That is what we will do.
What should I do for shot hole disease on my minni royal and royal lee cherry leaves ?
You'll want to use an organic copper-based fungicide like: amzn.to/3uMzFc3 . The key is to begin spraying as soon as new leaves emerge in spring and continue spraying at 7-10 day intervals until the leaves are fully expanded. Young tender leaves in early spring are the most vulnerable. If your leaves are fully developed, you'll want to be sure to treat according to the instructions at the end of this season (when 90%) of the leaves have dropped, and just before bud-break next season.
Thank yiu
Love I'll always watch
Thanks! 😊
I have a TH-cam channel as well and it's pretty sad some of the comments people write. Everybody tries their best. This channel is very excellent and help me to figure out how to grow these. Thank you for what you do.
Has anyone planted a Lapins cherry tree in Southern California? Curious if it will fruit here
Enjoy your video! But you forgot to mention the Royal Crimson is SELF FRUITFUL. i was shopping for a low chill variety and the Bay Laurel nursery's website mention this variety. Only needs 150 chill hours.
Thanks for the info 👍
Did you have to give these trees supplemental shade during the hot summer months the first year or two? I have tried to grow these twice and each time I lost them in the heat of summer (south side of Houston, TX)
I do use shadecloth, and definitely do on the youngest cherries. They seem to need more water and shade during the hottest months, or else the foliage takes a beating. Here is more on this from me: www.thebusygardener.com/protecting-plants-from-too-much-sun/
Just planted 6 new trees, should I prune them down now ? Was afraid of stressing them to much with the oncoming heat. (All are in the 5ft range and from nursery)
You can definitely prune them now! I wouldn't clear out the middle of the tree, because the leaves provide shade for the bark. THat being said, pruning off height right now is a big help. You should consider painting your young trees with IV Organics amzn.to/2U9tezo . Here is a vid I just made about this: th-cam.com/video/NmWmjgq7cIM/w-d-xo.html Good luck!
Hi I am from Trinidad it's hot over here can I grow American cherries here?
I love your channel!!
Do you know where I can purchase a Royal Crimson. I live in AZ and can't seem to find one anywhere local or online
Your options are a little limited in AZ, but here is a very handy tool for you courtesy of Dave Wilson Nursery. Let me know if you find one! www.wheretobuy.davewilson.com/home-gardens/where-to-buy/retail-sources/Royal%20Crimson%20Cherry/ROYCR/product-information/product/royal-crimson-cherry/Yes/0/
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Hi, I think in another video you mentioned a Lapins cherry tree in your orchard. Have you had success with that particular cultivar?
My Lapins cherry died a couple times, and I built the chicken run over where it was
Hey! Can I grow Cherry trees in a pot in Mississippi? If so which varieties would do best? I live in the delta region btw.
Not sure! you can look up your USDA zone to get an idea. Cherries generally need SOME chill hours to produce, so check that out for your particular ZipCode
Please tell low chill variety name and how much chilling hours it need.
Hi .I had bought minnie royal and royal lee cherry, can u tell me how far in between 2 tree to plant please .Thanks
Hi Hoa, you can plant your cherries close to each other (as close as 18 inches trunk to trunk), or further away (up to 15 feet). I've got some videos on planting here: th-cam.com/play/PLScRNuJpsSkzGzlIWxRZNrI9yXBxCK3rY.html
I live in Whittier, California zone 10a/b is it possible to grow cherries here? And if so which ones do you recommend? Thank you for the great video.
Thanks for watching! I think planting a trio of Minnie Royal, Royal Lee, and Royal Crimson gives the most overlap of blooms and pollination. It may not boom with fruit like a cherry tree in cold climates, but should produce for you.
I have a 6 ft bing in my yard, they aren't suppose to be self pollinating but last year there was actually a cherry on it but a bird ate it the next day. have you ever heard of them pollinating themselves? Also since the trees you are showing are to high for my budget to buy 2 I am wondering if these will cross pollinate with my Bing, or if a Rainer might live and produce in Alabama zone 8? Right now my biggest problem is Japanese beetles, but at least the traps work good
You can get an occasional fruit even when compatible pollinators aren't present. Check out Davewilson.com for info on specific compatible pollinators for your trees. Hope this helps!
@@TheBusyGardener thanks
I, too, live in Southern California, but I'm less than 2 miles from the ocean. Will these cherries do well here?
I'm from Central California (San Joaquin Valley) and I use to have a beautiful cherry tree that would turn the prettiest pink, and give the best cherries. Unfortunately some moles ate the roots and killed my tree. I want to buy another one but im not too sure which one I had before :(
You're in prime growing territory, so you've got your pick, from what I understand! I had gophers eat my lapins cherry tree, and had to replant this year. SOOOO annoying.
They've killed enough of my trees even when the trees are 12 feet tall. They've destroyed our front lawn. I've tried everything in me to be the nice guy and merciful but not anymore. I use traps now in the lawn, and any new tree is getting a gopher cage or chicken wire surrounding the entire planting hole. So labor intensive especially when planting on a hillside. They're ruthless. and left me no other choice.😤SMH@@TheBusyGardener
Do you have experience with Stella cherries?
Hey Dave I am wondering where I can purchase these for my backyard orchard? I live in zone 10, southern California and I know I will be planting next year during the planting season but do you know of an online or local nursery where I can find these?
Best place to check is Dave Wilson Nursery's "where to buy" function for cherries here: www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/where-to-buy/variety-finder?field_product_fruit_group_value=cherry
I got mine in February at lowes. It was bareroot and has flourished!
Where do you get your trees from? 13:44
The bush is pretty. It doesnt have to bear fruit. Its already a miracle if that tree can actually grow in southeast asia.
I planted two cherry trees last year, I hope I will be lucky and get some cherries in the next years. I live in the subtropical part of Brazil, but still too hot for cherries
You've got a lot working against you without a clear winter, so I'll be curious to see how this turns out for you. So much can grow in Brazil, but it's often plants that thrive in a tropical setting. Good luck!
@@TheBusyGardener thank you. it is growing well so far, I just hope that the few frost we have in winter will be enough to make it bear at least a few fruits.
How's that tree doing now? I'm looking at a backyard orchard later this year and really want cherries.
Yes please update us, especially on the Royal crimson. The reviews haven’t been positive on the crimson and would hate to waste my time. Ty!
I have minnie royal and royal lee. Can I just graft those branches so they bloom at the same time?
Grafting the branches to the other tree won't cause them to bloom at a different time. Blooming is driven by the buds on the fruiting wood, and not the rootstock or tree its grafted to.
That would be really cool if it did work
How’s your royal crimson cherry tree going? Fruiting yet? Any good compared with royal lee? Thanks!
No fruit yet! I'm cutting away additional branching from its neighbors to give it even more sun to give it a greater jumpstart
@@TheBusyGardener I just bought a royal crimson cherry tree this year, would be interested to see if it fruits next year 😄
I bought a royal crimson tree about 5 months ago and it is growing very slow and thr leaves are not green. They are yellow with an orange, redish dark color and and where they are hanging from they are sticky. I know there is something wrong with it but don't know what. I can see there is a cluster of leaves hanging as if that's where the cherry will grow but I want to know why the leaves are like that. Can u help?
Sticky stuff at the leaves is usually a normal thing with cherries. As for growth and the color, makes me wonder if there is a watering issue. How often are you watering? Overwatering can cause a lot of issues with trees.
I live in Canada, I have two cherry about 8 years old, still no fruit or a few small only, but those tree close to a pine tree, is it a problem to a cherry tree? thanks, Felix
Cherries usually need a compatible pollinator variety planted nearby. Are your cherries compatible for cross pollinating?
What about the sweetheart Variety? Will it grow in hot climate?
Did you mean Sweet Treat? Or Candy Heart? 😂. Both are growing and fruiting like crazy
Hi gday, how long does it take to bear if planted from seeds.
It'll add a few years to fruiting, and the fruit won't necessarily have the same desirable chaarcteristcs as the original fruit. You're generally going to be MUCH happier purchasing a tree that's been grafted onto a solid rootstock, and where you know exactly what the fruit will be like. But you can plant a seed if you want to see the process, too. Maybe you'll get a good variety out of it!
Hi, where did you buy those varieties from please?
They're all Dave Wilson nursery trees, bought from a couple local nurseries years ago (including an Armstrong's).
Hi guys, can the royal lee cherry grow in tropical country like indonesia?
That's a great question! These trees, while considered "low chill" probably need at least SOME chill hours in order to properly set fruit. Remember, you'll need a suitable pollinator like Minnie Royal or Royal Crimson cherry in order to get any fruit. That being said, I'm not confident that a cherry tree is best suited for your climate.
Can I plant cherry tree next to avocado tree? We're in San Diego California coastal area.
Hi Ofelia, Absolutely! They have different watering requirements, but proximity shouldn't be an issue. No real benefit to doing it, but they won't attack each other or anything either 😂
Deeelicious! 👍
You know it! 😂
How are you keeping the birds away? Can these be harvested early and have them ripen indoors?
You really want to let these hang on the tree as long as possible for full sugar production. The birds have been hit or miss. A main issue has been deploying a bozo in time to keep the birds at bay!
Could it grow in tropical country sir?
How’s the taste for royal crimson? Out of the 3, which one is the best?
Unfortunately the heat wave we had wiped out my total Crimson 😢. So I'll need to replant it to find out
@@TheBusyGardener sorry to hear that you lost the one. Well, new opportunity for a fresh healthy tree.
Love it but why didn't you prune after the trees finished bearing?
Hi Geriann! The tree was mostly done fruiting, and I wanted to maximize the new planting's time in the ground and sun exposure
@@TheBusyGardener ok fair enough
Where did you buy the Minnie Royal, Royal Lee and this new Royal Crimson?
Minnie Royal and Royal Lee at a now closed nursery, and Royal crimson at the Cal Poly Farm Store. But Dave Wilson Nursery has a terrific "where to buy" feature that I used to narrow it down
Good news!
I have a Minnie Royal , Royal Lee, Royal Crimson, they are about a year old and look good. I also have a Stella that is two years old but I think it is dying this year , it is still green but the buds dry out at soon as they try to open . By the way , your tree is beautiful!!
So cool you've got this same planting! That does sound weird with your Stella 😢. Does it have any foliage? Or is that what's drying out? I'd give it this season to see what happens. Good luck on that!
The Busy Gardener last year it was fine. This year the buds swell but before leaves come out they dry. The trunk and the branches are green though. I’ll give it until next year to see what happens.
How long will it takes cherry fruit plant bare fruits from seeds. Pls reply
It would take a few to several years to get fruit from seed. And the fruit you get wouldn't be identical to the fruit you got the seed from. It's like how kids are similar but distinct from their parents.
Hello sir. I really love growing fruit trees but I live in Cambodia (Asia). So can I grow Cherry in my country ?
Cherries like other "stone" fruit require SOME chill hours and won't produce well in tropical climates.
@@TheBusyGardener Thank a lots.
We have only two types it jis hot here but still like.
In mexico, we grow a wild cherry type we call it capulin and you canfind it growing from Mexico all the way to south america
We go to Palmdale to do cherry picking, its fun.
So fun!
Where in Palmdale?
Hi iam From Bangladesh nice video 🇧🇩🇱🇷🇧🇩
What varieties do you have I live in So Cal too
Hi DJC, I've got: "Minnie Royal", "Royal Lee", "Royal Crimson", "Lapins", and "Royal Rainier" cherries!
@@TheBusyGardener would you help me to know the best on their?. thanks.
Can I plant cherry trees in Arizona in 120 degrees?
If you protect them, with mulch good watering and Cheh during the hottest parts, they might be fine. The bigger issue with cherries is whether or not you get enough chill hours during the winter
I live in the Caribbean and I'd love to grow cherries🍒 . Is it possible for me to grow them?
Regular cherries aren't going to produce for you in a tropical climate. Your best best is a Barbados Cherry in Zone 9-11! 🍒
@@TheBusyGardener oh ok. I already have one of those cherres
02:58 "i love cherries" reminds me of the film 'Gummo'
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Where can I find these trees in San Diego?
Click on the variety you want here: www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/where-to-buy/variety-finder?field_product_fruit_group_value=cherry
Could you have pruned and planted during the dormant period? Not criticizing, just curious.
Planting during dormancy is great, but it's far more critical when you're dealing with bare root trees. As long as the rootball is intact, no issue with planting or pruning now. It's DEFINITELY better to plant in the ground now than to give it a whole season in a 5 gallon pot. Good question! Thanks for watching!
Any way I can get cutting of the Minnie?
Low Chill? So can i grow that Cherry 🍒 🌳 here in The Philippines? But i have only Barbados Cherry 🍒🌳
It's low-chill, but still requires some chill hours. I don't think The Philippines has enough cool weather during dormancy to make it work, unfortunately
@@TheBusyGardener #Tagaytay and #BaguioCity In Luzon Region and also #Bukidnon Province of Mindanao Region are Cold Subtropical
where can i be buying this cherry plant pal internet?
Hi William, you can buy these through companies like Stark Bros. If you google the name of the cherry(s) you're looking for, ordering options usually appear quickly
Can i grow cherry in tropical country?
Cherry will not produce fruit in a tropical setting without "chill hours". So, while it's possible to grow in warmer climates that still have a winter, anything tropical is a poor choice
I NEED A CRIMSON!!!!
YES!
Love cherries , can I plant in Florida??
As long as you get at least a couple hundred "chill" hours, you can. Does your area in Florida get cold enough?
@@TheBusyGardener yes we do and I have Barbados cherry I guess these both cherries grew in Florida thanks for ur reply
Sir do you have seedlings
I don't have any fruit tree seedling at the moment
How much cherrys do you earn from this tree. i live in germany and want to go to sicily (subtropical zone )
We easily get several pounds of cherries from these two trees, and will get more as time goes on.
Sicily is still pretty colf
I'm in farther NorCali but always learning, as hard as it is to chose from a million fine fruits to grow--cherries right off the tree are unbeatable, growing half a dozen or so and adding. I get triple the chill hrs but I like to keep my bases covered.
Lucky man! We just don't have the same options, so always a small miracle when we've got a great crop
@@TheBusyGardener Yeah well I'm going to really struggle with mangos, bananas and such, I envy a lot of stuff you can maybe grow easily. Avocados I think will do fine once established for me, have a dozen small ones with a few more planned.
I want to add low chill stone fruits including some of the cherries you mentioned as insurance for possibly warmer winters. :D
How long have your original two trees been in the ground? It was so hard to watch you prune all those branches off with cherries on them 😳. Lots of people have tried these tress in AZ but only a few have been successful that I know of. Also it's taken them over 5 years get cherries.
Pruning and thinning fruit are the two hardest things to do in the orchard! The original two trees have been in the ground for 5 years. They're planted on a standard "Mazzard" rootstock which is known to take a few years to fruit. Rumor has it there is a new rootstock on the horizon that supports fruiting in less time.
I live in Southern California. I live near Cherry Valley, CA which is a part of Beaumont, CA. I see Cherry groves all the time. I guess I didn't think you could not grow cherries in So Cal.
Hi Romeo, there are obviously spots in SoCal that are an exception. Consider yourself blessed out there with the chill hours to grow that stuff!
What zone are you in?
Zone 9B
Can I grow a cherry tree in Southern California?
Yes! We're growing them in SoCal
Sir i need plant or seed from India
Can it grow on tropical country like the Philippines?
It's unlikely that these will grow in the Philippines, unfortunately. I think they need SOME chill hours where the weather is below 42 degrees F.
What about Indonesia???
These are considered "low chill" cherries, and not "no chill". For tropical climates or those with truly few chill hours, consider the Barbados cherry. 😀
Akrami; is that an Iranian last name?
Yup!
@@TheBusyGardener cool! I’m an Iranian too.
japanese beetles go in soap water. give your kids a tumbler half full with water and add a few drops of dishwasher soap. and then send them for japanese beetle hunt. they have to place the tumber underneath the beetle and simply drop them in. they wont fly away !
That's a great idea. Our chickens didn't know what to do with them alive. 🤦♂️
Tell me cheeey can geow inbtropical countries
Cherries need some accumulated "chill hours", and I don't think you'll get enough there
Lots of enthusiasm but few cherries
Tell me about it. The day before I shoot this, my family descended on these trees and picked them pretty clean.
@@TheBusyGardener “You should have been here last week “
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I am from India can I grow this low chilling in India?
You send me a tree?
Depending on whether or not you get any chill hours in your part of India. I don't ship trees, unfortunately.
I can tell u that nectaplum trees DO NOT EVER FRUIT...INHAVE HAD THEM IN 8 YEARS..200 TO 300 CHILL HOURS...AND NOTHING...AND SUPPOSEDLY SELF FERTILITY...but i have several so that is not the problem.
They are.ziegar too
Not sure what your growth projection are, to much shading, bud development needs proper lighting, so as a large scale grower you are shooting yourself in both, or all three feet. Keep us posted.
Here I’m like all excited to find out next minute it’s fucking GMO 🙄🤦🏻♀️
GMO?? No it's not. These crosses are the methodical cross-pollinzation like would happen with bees and other pollinators, but making intentional crosses and keeping the varieties that work out. Check out this vid on Floyd Zaiger that talks some more about this: th-cam.com/video/6O6ZiclHweQ/w-d-xo.html