This is what I do.. I love this tp-link Omada router.. have 2 50/5 dsl connections and a 5g tmobile hotspot connection as well.. have an old netgear wireless router as an access point... and a tp-link switch for all my connected devices.. works great!
Hey, that's great information! With everyone trying to home school in Kansas now, our kids have turned our house into a internet bandwidth vacuum with all of the stuff they're doing online.
Dude this is an awesome video. This is not just for living out in the country. I live in a 3rd world country, and internet is totally spotty. This video is a godsend. Thank you.
Thank you for the will done video. I recently purchased the same TP Link load balancing router as yourself. I have been able to activate the failover feature, but what I really want is to leverage the load balancing feature, as I do not want my second broadband connection to stay idle. Can you please point me in the direction on where I can learn what settings I have to use to achieve this? Also, kudos on your clean hardware setup - It puts my setup to shame! Cheers.
cool, but i have a quiz, does the two ISP coming into the load balance router work concurrently or one is dormant until the other goes down its when its picked up for usage by the router. let me know please. Asking from Kenya-East Africa
They both work simultaneously as needed, some models allow up to 4 ISP. If one fails the balancer automatically routes traffic to other available LAN. I have 2 ISP and this works great. One is Starlink and the other one is Fiber optic.
Can the second ISP go thru another unmanaged switch to reach the Omada router or it needs to directly connect to it? My office needed this badly since the company have multiple internet modem/router (on different room/floor) as well.
Great video! Thumbs up! I have a question for you, what 4 internet connections into 1 fast one? Could I still use this product and if so, would that bottle neck? Thanks in advance!
Very helpful video. You were very clear. I was wondering if it is possible to know if one of the 2 ISPs is down, so that I could complain to the ISP for repair. Otherwise I may be running in just one ISP without realising that the other is down.
What you left off however is that if it’s DSL you’ll need extra information from your DSL provider to access the DSL router properly otherwise the modem won’t load balance and on fact it won’t show any traffic to and from the dsl modem on the wan port it’s connected to. I ran into this with centurylink and I believe it’s the same with the other DSL providers.
Actually that is not correct, if you have a dsl router/modem combo you just need to log in to it and set it to bridge mode, if you have a stand alone modem it will register the ip directly. This is all assuming your modem is already setup and provisioned by your dsl company of course
Looking to do this now, but the load balancing router is not available. Is there a new model that is recommended?
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You mention that you can use second ISP as backup. I like the idea, but is it possible to configure it in a way that the second ISP is use solely as a backup? I mean if the first ISP is functional, it would not touch the second one. I have one super ultra mega fast IPS and the second one is slow as hell. I do not want any communications randomly assigned to the slow one as long as the ultra super fast connection is working. EDIT: I found that functionality in setup needed for this to work this way is called "Failover". If anyone has similar situation, you need to check if router supports this functionality before buying. Most of them do.
Let's suppose that there is only client connected to the load balancing router. Will it combine the speed of the two connections? Or would there need to be an internet bonding at our / ISP end ?
Cheers mate, I have just purchased same TP-Link. I have two Broadband Connections and wanted to connect both to increase the spead of my connection. Im sure this will help, especially if one line goes down, we will then have that backup :-)
Okay question I have two lines coming in each have 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz is there away to connect the four wifi in to one? Or because they are in the same modem It will still be only two?
Hi , thanks for the video; can you suggest the latest model, I am Looking for aggregated service; say if isp1 has 1 mbps speed send one has 2 mbbps speed ; I want out to be 3 mbbs speed along with load balance feature; I work from home and need one that helps me if one fails, I always have a back up and at the same time if I can get 1+2 sped that will helps me when I working with docker and containers
I'm a little late to the party, but great Vid. A question... The TP-Link ER7206 has too few ports for my needs. How would recommend I increase the number of ports?
Hi, I’m from Puerto Rico. Power goes out a lot lately. Question, can I only use it as a backup network, if service A goes out then service B starts working. With No Balance of networks. Service B has limited data, if I consume more than 100 gigas it would start charging extra.
There is also a thing called bonded dsl which is kinda what you was saying but the difference is that its 2 dsl lines with one modem. I have a 15m connection with each dsl running 7 to 8 per line. I am replacing that tomorrow with the new lte version home network running 25 to 50m
Hi. Thanks for the video with great information. We have one DSL line with 5 MBS download. So if I am following you correctly, combining two DSL services with this type of router will not ever get us more than 5 MBS download, but just spread out the usage between users for faster than typical speeds with heavy usage. Correct? If so, and the router is always deciding which is the fastest connection to use at any given moment, is there any noticeable change in the latency speed? My work requires a very fast latency, so satellite will not work for me However, two DSL lines might work, but I am wondering about any latency changes with adding this type of setup. Thanks!
Hi, I work in a call center from home, it's one of the most costly thing to do as my screen is recorded and I connect to a VPN. I am considering moving out in the sticks. would this help my upload as much as my download? Thank you
Sir. . .thanks for your sharing. . How the two different internet provider can install in a device and what device will we use, is there possibility to add the speed of your internet if one network supplies 5 Mbps speed and other network supplies 10 Mbps speed, can we get the total of 15 Mbps speed for a certain device. .if it is possible. .can I have a request video from you on how to that. . Thanks. . And more power. . .😀😀😀😀
Perfect video! But one question. I have two mobile hotspots without Ethernet connections .Will it work if I use a wireless bridge to the tp link? And also if both hot spots are one carrier will that mater? Thanks!
My Question is, if both of them have static public IP, which one will you be using? incase of port forwarding, you'll forward it on both routers 1st and then on the 3rd router or you'll put the two routers in bridge mode and then port forward on the 3rd router?
Do you know if that load balancing router will route connections from the same computer to different wans? For example if you're downloading a large file and then start downloading another large file from a different location, a different server, but on the same pc, is it going to treat those two connections as separate? Or is it going to put it all on one way on because it's one local client?
What are the advantages of placing your cable modems into "bridge mode", instead of continuing to use your modems as wireless access points? Do you have a video of your modem configuration? Great video and Thanks in advance!
Using bridge mode also saves processing power of each cable modems so it can focus on your connectivity to the internet. Having a separate wifi modem from you provided modem prevents overheating.
Thank you for this awesome video; I love the setup. The load balancing of two ISPs would work for tons of people. I hope I am not being too critical here, but the title of "How to Connect 2 Internet Services into 1 Fast one" doesn't seem to apply to your method. With your method, the speed will never be faster than the fastest ISP. With Channel Bonding, you could combine ISPs for faster speeds. Sorry if I missed something you said in the video about this and thanks again!
I suppose that depends on your usage. For one user the speed is as fast as your fastest connection. But for most people with multiple users in your home the overall speed everyone will experience is going to be faster than having just one service. Bonding is great but also more expensive and problematic
@@SSLFamilyDad That makes sense. This makes the Internet faster for users that would normally be hitting the bandwidth limit. I probably would have never thought of this and would tell the kids, "This network is daddy's, this network is yours" :-) Good work!
@@AdhdPlans This is a very good point and quite relevant as you can bet many users here are hoping that the services can be combined not just for a faster single pipe but also to not lock say a Zoom session into either network circuit. My Starlink drops 2-3 times an hour for 10-15 seconds, just long enough to make it unusable. I have slow DSL but if I could multiplex within a given app session but this would required routing, not just bridging. Note he's turning the ISP routers into bridges (makes sense for them) but I want some intelligence at the routing level. I'm going to look into Channel Bonding, thanks. UPDATE: Wow, the industry is slimy. Channel Bonding really isn't possible. Sigh.
With your system, if one Provider goes down and you are on that network at the time on a zoom call, will the TP link seamlessly flip you over to the functioning provider, or will the zoom call drop?
Did you do an attic install? Where are you? In Texas I easily see it overheating in the summer. I see the cables routed and dressed and the shelves installed. The install looks clean, but wouldn't the attic heat cause issues with overheating and power consumption, or UPS problems?
I have both WOW and Spectrum. If each service got it's own cable modem, could I connect to one with ethernet to my laptop, and connect to the other with Wifi to the same laptop? Do I need to configure my laptop to handle both connections simultaneously, or does that happen automatically?
Hi there. Thanks for the video. Q1. If the main modem provided to me by my isp does not allow bridge mode, can I still use the load balancing router by connecting the main modem to the wan port of the load balancing router? Q 2. Say i have 3 isp connected and using the load balancing router. And one of them goes down then it will automatically use rhe other two and provides non stop internet correct?
How seamless does the router re-rout a dropped connection? Like say I'm streaming live content and one connection drops, will I experience a lag spike or timeout while it switches over? I just got Starlink and the speeds are great but I run into certain times of the day where it drops over and over again for seconds at a time. It's driving me nuts.
I was wondering the exact same thing. I use StarLink for video conferencing and for WiFi calling on my phone (I'm in a dead zone). The signal is crystal clear, but I'm finding I have problems with calls suddenly dropping. I'm wondering if a failover to my 5Mbps LTE system will prevent that from happening, but not sure if the failover is fast enough.
This is amazing does anyone know which model the TP-Link is please as there's 2 versions on amazon one load balancing one and the other is a VPN/Router I'm guessing ill need the load balancing one can anyone confirm please
i have a wireless camera in my outer bldg that is not getting any signal. I connected one end of a cat 6 ethernet to my router in my house, and ran the cable out to the outer bldg. what should i do on that end to get signal to my camera? I have an old router, can it be configured as an access point and will that give me a signal to my camera? The camera has no ethernet port on it. thanks in advance.
How did you like Hughes Net? We live on an remote island and that really our only option. I can’t upload videos here so I have to take a 40 min boat ride to town to upload. I’d love to have internet but not sure it’s worth it. Also wondering how long a 10 min video took to upload when you had it? We have a signal booster which gives us very slow 4G and two bars. Thanks. One of my subscribers recommended you so I’m new to the your channel.👍
The title of the video indicates you can combine two services to create one fast one. But, you say at 4:20 that it's not the same as combining them. I have several slow connections that I want to bridge into one fast one. Do you know of a way to do this?
How do you do that with two wifi services like Starlink and Rogers (Canada)? Does it work the same? I would like to combine them on one computer to improve performance.
On all mesh systems you normally connect a LAN cable to the router or modem in order to be able to navigate. In this case you will connect to a port configured as LAN (no WAN)
Would this work if I have 2 Wifi routers configured to connect to one another via a LAN cable and I connect my 2 ISP lines to each of their WAN ports(One cable to each router)?
thanks, very helpful. what about a wireless load balancing router? im working from my camper, in my driveway most of the time, but occasionally from a campground, and I'd like to pull in the wifi from wherever i am, plus my hotspot from my phone, and have a router smart manage these multiple connections to automatically give me the best signal.
I don’t know if wireless load balancing devices exist. But you can get 2 wireless bridges and use them like the modems. They would physically plug into the load balancer’s WAN ports. You can connect them as clients to the different wireless sources. I saw a video a while back where they set up a Ubiquity wireless device to connect to the park’s hotspot. You’ll want to make sure the different wireless devices are not too close to each other so that they do not interfere.
Is there an option on the router to use as just a failsafe incase one internet service goes out? Our second service don't have unlimited data and they don't throttle, they just charge extra. I want to set it up so when our main goes down, that's the only time it switches. Thanks for the video.
Hey bro, great video i am looking at doing this however i was looking at bonding my 2 connections, what does it show when you run a speedtest? for example if you have 2 lines which produced 100mbps each with the load balance does this show a speed of 200mbps or will it just run the check on the first line it grabs? also do you ever have issues with the load balancing like packet loss or bad latency?
This will not join the two connections in that way. If you run a speed test it will route you to the fastest available connection and you will get the speed on that line
Awesome help tool for all of us out there! I have a home mesh network (with router and access points of tp link deco m9 plus) - and want to enable those devices on 2 separate internet connections that i have at home (since invariably one is either slow or just down) --- how do i do that?
Hello! I’ve been a follower of your channel for a few weeks now and I must say I really enjoy your content and what you stand for. I wanted to reach out ask you, what is it that you do for a living as you mentioned briefly in this video that you work remotely? I hope that’s not too personal of information, but I am simply curious is all. Thanks and have a blessed day!
Load balancing isn't the same as connection bonding or aggregation. Being "out in the sticks" I have 2 slow internet providers zippy dsl and t mobile home internet. Could you please do a video on how to do link aggregation or bonding?
Bonding requires much more expensive equipment or complicated setups using a computer/ software. Load balancing has almost the same result with the exception of a single faster download or upload speed. For most users in a home with multiple people, load balancing will actually give you an overall faster result
Hi, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question... Can I use a different bandwidth or speed when using a load balancing? Example. 100Mbps for the first network and 50Mbps for the 2nd one? Or it should have the same speed? Thank you!
If you have 100 one in first and 50 in another end.... What it does It basically combines the speed based on physical port capability and WiFi generation compatible speed range .. If anyone wicket is over ..the one of above will work upon either...
Thanks. I figured there'd be a solution for this. Our ISP is usually pretty reliable and decent speeds, but I plan to give Starlink a go and was wondering how I could use both. Also, having the failover is awesome, since I WFH too. Thankfully only lost internet once for a few hours in a couple years, so far, but will be nice to have the dual benefit.
I have Starlink as a primary and AT&T Home as a backup. The failover modem I have takes about 5 seconds to notice and switch over to the back up. I'm looking for a modem that will do WAN Bonding which will make the failover seamless.
Hi! I got my setup based on your video. I have 2 different ISPs using point-to-point antennas in Colombia. It took me 2 headache filled days to figure this out. It's NOT plug and play, and there's no setup wizard that will do the work for you. Also the manual for the TL-R605 fully explains HOW to use every feature of the unit - but NOTHING about WHAT TO DO or WHY. So when I hooked everything up like you described, with 2 WANs, there were no connections at all. :-0! And there was zero on the web showing me how to do this specific setup. LUCKILY, I looked at your video one more time and heard one key word "I set the modems up in bridge mode" - and I finally said AHHA. So I reset and reconfigured each modem to act as an "ACCESS POINT" and bingo! Now this system humming along just fine. Question: Do you use any static IPs or just let the modems decide what they want? Thanks again!!!!
I let the modems get the ip from the provider and then the router pulls it in. Maybe I should do a video on step by step setup, glad you figured it out!
@@SSLFamilyDad Yes... there is no real step by step process for doing this out there. There ARE cheesey watch me do it videos with canned music, but they don't explain the why and the what at all. I believe this "trick" will be a valued tool used by many in the very near future, as everyone needs more reliable bandwidth. Thanks so much - this one video has changed my life!
One of the few benefits of living in suburbia....City won't let me have ducks, but I do get 1Gbit up/down for $65 a month so thats something. Why did this video get so few views? People get scared when you mention bridge mode, but turning all the default wifi garbage that comes from the ISP helps reduce noise on wifi.
At my pharmacy I have two internet providers....suddenly suddenlink which has a cable router and att router that has the phone jack type connection. When we upgraded our suddenlink modem to the faster one our computer system would not recognize the ip address. To solve this we added a nighthawk router. But now when one goes down and we plug the other into router it gives an error message that it doesn't recognize ip configuration.....so I have to call and get the router manipulated to recognize ip address. This load balance router sounds like a solution that in theory both could be connected to and we would never know when one is down and therefore wouldn't have to swap out modems and cause the ip confusion. Just wondering if this would fix my issue.
but I checked a lot if documents some says put your ISP modem in to bridge mode some did not mentioned it I am really confused, I have two ISP and I want to do Load balancing and failover using Tplink Dual wan ER707 m2 should I put my ISP Modems in Bridge mode? @@SSLFamilyDad
There is a good possibility you will have access to a 1gbp/s download satellite option by the end of the year when starlink comes online and unlike other services living in the middle of nowhere will mean a better connection. It will be good for general net use along with uploading but bad for gaming until enough ground stations are put in for people to be able to play fully on it and no longer need the internet bridges.
Yes and no. I'm here because I have StarLink currently, but some obstructions cause it to drop fairly often. I need a failover system to address the problems that creates. Currently, StarLink is sometimes as slow as 5Mbps. Both the obstruction and speed issues will be mitigated as more satellites go up. For that matter, we may get a grant to put in Comcast in the next couple of years, rendering all of this moot.
Load balancing doesn't actually increase speed though. You need to bond through a VPN or something. Are you actually getting a speed boost using this setup?
Inaccurate description. Load balancing is not the same as bonding. It's a whole lot better than nothing but it is NOT combining 2 services. Sorry, not technically accurate.
Can someone please tell me exactly what the product name is so I can look it up to order one cuz I’m trying to join 2 services into 1 service as I’m out in the sticks of Vermont with horrible internet speeds??! Again I apologize I’m not tech smart but this will make the 25 mbps individual services and combine em and make 50mbps correct??
Kind of, it allows both services to act as one but doesn’t combine the total speed. It splits your downloads over both connections therefore speeding up overall speed in your home especially for multiple users. The link is in the description
I need to mix my company sap network and internet network (both are different network) and mix up. How can I do it. My sap work on company network and internet on another. Do I use force bind it. Two adaptors and two network on same one computer. I want to connect only one network adaptor so that both network after being mixed will enter in my desktop, and sap will chanalise through sap network and internet will chanalise through internet network.
but in this case ... if we have limited data ...as example i've connected wifi from a neighbor and also with a hotspot from my mobile ..and i got only 2GB Data in this case ... which data the connection will use ? my 2GB data and it will be finished ? or the data of the neighbor Wifi ? thank you
Hi, would this also works to speed up uploads? Also, would the Mikrotik Hex Series work as well? Please someone? Thanks in advance. My job requires 5Mb uploads and I can only get where I live.
No. That max download or upload speeds provided by the internet service provider would not change from the Max up or down that you pay for. The router only picks between the two lines and determines which one is fastest at the time you are try to access it and then routes traffic to that one.
This really is incredibly helpful - thank you! I have recently got an LTE connection because our copper is incredibly slow, but it will be great to have the old connection in place as a backup when the 4g gets flaky. Does the TP-Link have routing functionality like DHCP or should that all be done by the wireless router?
I want to use this for my streaming. Problem with one of my ISP is sometimes upload is not optimal for 1080p60fps streaming so is this a viable solution? will it know that my PC needs 6mbps for streaming and one of my isp can only give 4? also sometimes one of my ISP has 5-10% packet loss. will this automatically fix it if one ISP is stable and the other is not? TIA
This will work in your case as far as I can tell. The router will pick the best connection upload or download based on packet loss and overall speed from the way I understand it. Either way, you should get the best choice for uploading at the time you start the upload
I presume, though, that in the middle of a Zoom call, if the router has me on "ISP A", and then "ISP A" goes down, then the Zoom call quits. I could perhaps re-start it on "ISP B", but that's what I'd have to do. Or is that just not true?
@@SSLFamilyDad Have you had this experience yourself? Like maybe Zoom is smart enough to do quick re-tries, even when it's in the middle of something. That would make sense of course.
Though I do have the Henry Ford choice when it comes to the internet (any color you want. so long as it's black). At the same time, my choice is the best telephone coop in the nation.
This is what I do.. I love this tp-link Omada router.. have 2 50/5 dsl connections and a 5g tmobile hotspot connection as well.. have an old netgear wireless router as an access point... and a tp-link switch for all my connected devices.. works great!
Very very useful for me in Venezuela, since I have a DSL and an optic fiber connection, I want to have the same setup. THANKS!
Hey, that's great information! With everyone trying to home school in Kansas now, our kids have turned our house into a internet bandwidth vacuum with all of the stuff they're doing online.
Lol, yup, that happens here too
Dude this is an awesome video. This is not just for living out in the country. I live in a 3rd world country, and internet is totally spotty. This video is a godsend. Thank you.
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such old news we had 2 dial up modems in 1999, combing them has been easy since then! 2 lan ports from modem into a router so hard!
Much appreciated! I spent hours trying to figure out what I needed, but a load balancer router is exactly what's needed. Thanks!
Dude, you just saved so many ppl by this :D thank you !!!
Does load balancing help with failovers?
Thank you for the will done video. I recently purchased the same TP Link load balancing router as yourself. I have been able to activate the failover feature, but what I really want is to leverage the load balancing feature, as I do not want my second broadband connection to stay idle. Can you please point me in the direction on where I can learn what settings I have to use to achieve this? Also, kudos on your clean hardware setup - It puts my setup to shame! Cheers.
Is that possible in Cisco packet tracer simulator ? If yes, can you make a video on that. If no, how practically can you do that
cool, but i have a quiz, does the two ISP coming into the load balance router work concurrently or one is dormant until the other goes down its when its picked up for usage by the router. let me know please. Asking from Kenya-East Africa
They both work simultaneously as needed, some models allow up to 4 ISP. If one fails the balancer automatically routes traffic to other available LAN. I have 2 ISP and this works great. One is Starlink and the other one is Fiber optic.
Can the second ISP go thru another unmanaged switch to reach the Omada router or it needs to directly connect to it? My office needed this badly since the company have multiple internet modem/router (on different room/floor) as well.
Great video! Thumbs up! I have a question for you, what 4 internet connections into 1 fast one? Could I still use this product and if so, would that bottle neck? Thanks in advance!
this is what makes TH-cam, TH-cam! thanks Dad
I got one question. Did You disable Dhcp on both modems, in order to only enable DHCP On the TP LINK??
Yes
Very helpful video. You were very clear. I was wondering if it is possible to know if one of the 2 ISPs is down, so that I could complain to the ISP for repair. Otherwise I may be running in just one ISP without realising that the other is down.
You can set it to notify you if one comes down by email
What you left off however is that if it’s DSL you’ll need extra information from your DSL provider to access the DSL router properly otherwise the modem won’t load balance and on fact it won’t show any traffic to and from the dsl modem on the wan port it’s connected to. I ran into this with centurylink and I believe it’s the same with the other DSL providers.
Actually that is not correct, if you have a dsl router/modem combo you just need to log in to it and set it to bridge mode, if you have a stand alone modem it will register the ip directly. This is all assuming your modem is already setup and provisioned by your dsl company of course
I got a tp-link er605 router given to me, can it be used like you did this setup?
Looking to do this now, but the load balancing router is not available. Is there a new model that is recommended?
You mention that you can use second ISP as backup. I like the idea, but is it possible to configure it in a way that the second ISP is use solely as a backup? I mean if the first ISP is functional, it would not touch the second one.
I have one super ultra mega fast IPS and the second one is slow as hell. I do not want any communications randomly assigned to the slow one as long as the ultra super fast connection is working.
EDIT: I found that functionality in setup needed for this to work this way is called "Failover". If anyone has similar situation, you need to check if router supports this functionality before buying. Most of them do.
Let's suppose that there is only client connected to the load balancing router. Will it combine the speed of the two connections? Or would there need to be an internet bonding at our / ISP end ?
For just one client it will choose the fastest connection and use that
Is the load balancing router compatible with a Wi-Fi 6 mesh system?
Cheers mate, I have just purchased same TP-Link. I have two Broadband Connections and wanted to connect both to increase the spead of my connection. Im sure this will help, especially if one line goes down, we will then have that backup :-)
Does it has Two WAN ports?
Or directly connected to LAN? (not possible but...)
your content is very instructive...very clear...thank you
Okay question I have two lines coming in each have 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz is there away to connect the four wifi in to one? Or because they are in the same modem It will still be only two?
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Hi , thanks for the video; can you suggest the latest model, I am
Looking for aggregated service; say if isp1 has 1 mbps speed send one has 2 mbbps speed ; I want out to be 3 mbbs speed along with load balance feature; I work from home and need one that helps me if one fails, I always have a back up and at the same time if I can get 1+2 sped that will helps me when I working with docker and containers
I'm a little late to the party, but great Vid. A question... The TP-Link ER7206 has too few ports for my needs. How would recommend I increase the number of ports?
looks like I can simply add an unmanaged switch like this one TP-Link 8 Port Gigabit Ethernet Network Switch TL-SG1008D
Hi, I’m from Puerto Rico. Power goes out a lot lately. Question, can I only use it as a backup network, if service A goes out then service B starts working. With No Balance of networks. Service B has limited data, if I consume more than 100 gigas it would start charging extra.
There is also a thing called bonded dsl which is kinda what you was saying but the difference is that its 2 dsl lines with one modem. I have a 15m connection with each dsl running 7 to 8 per line. I am replacing that tomorrow with the new lte version home network running 25 to 50m
Hi. Thanks for the video with great information. We have one DSL line with 5 MBS download. So if I am following you correctly, combining two DSL services with this type of router will not ever get us more than 5 MBS download, but just spread out the usage between users for faster than typical speeds with heavy usage. Correct? If so, and the router is always deciding which is the fastest connection to use at any given moment, is there any noticeable change in the latency speed? My work requires a very fast latency, so satellite will not work for me However, two DSL lines might work, but I am wondering about any latency changes with adding this type of setup. Thanks!
Hi, I work in a call center from home, it's one of the most costly thing to do as my screen is recorded and I connect to a VPN. I am considering moving out in the sticks. would this help my upload as much as my download? Thank you
How does this work with a cellphone hot spot as one of the lines in? it is able to plug into that box
Wow dude you just addressed our exact problem and situation perfectly with an ideal solution. Thanks so much!
Sir. . .thanks for your sharing. . How the two different internet provider can install in a device and what device will we use, is there possibility to add the speed of your internet if one network supplies 5 Mbps speed and other network supplies 10 Mbps speed, can we get the total of 15 Mbps speed for a certain device. .if it is possible. .can I have a request video from you on how to that. . Thanks. . And more power. . .😀😀😀😀
Perfect video! But one question. I have two mobile hotspots without Ethernet connections .Will it work if I use a wireless bridge to the tp link? And also if both hot spots are one carrier will that mater? Thanks!
My Question is, if both of them have static public IP, which one will you be using? incase of port forwarding, you'll forward it on both routers 1st and then on the 3rd router or you'll put the two routers in bridge mode and then port forward on the 3rd router?
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Do you know if that load balancing router will route connections from the same computer to different wans? For example if you're downloading a large file and then start downloading another large file from a different location, a different server, but on the same pc, is it going to treat those two connections as separate? Or is it going to put it all on one way on because it's one local client?
What are the advantages of placing your cable modems into "bridge mode", instead of continuing to use your modems as wireless access points? Do you have a video of your modem configuration? Great video and Thanks in advance!
If you leave your modems configured as routers you end up with double NAT which can cause issues and is unnecessary double routing
Using bridge mode also saves processing power of each cable modems so it can focus on your connectivity to the internet. Having a separate wifi modem from you provided modem prevents overheating.
Thank you for this awesome video; I love the setup. The load balancing of two ISPs would work for tons of people. I hope I am not being too critical here, but the title of "How to Connect 2 Internet Services into 1 Fast one" doesn't seem to apply to your method. With your method, the speed will never be faster than the fastest ISP. With Channel Bonding, you could combine ISPs for faster speeds. Sorry if I missed something you said in the video about this and thanks again!
I suppose that depends on your usage. For one user the speed is as fast as your fastest connection. But for most people with multiple users in your home the overall speed everyone will experience is going to be faster than having just one service. Bonding is great but also more expensive and problematic
@@SSLFamilyDad That makes sense. This makes the Internet faster for users that would normally be hitting the bandwidth limit. I probably would have never thought of this and would tell the kids, "This network is daddy's, this network is yours" :-) Good work!
Bonding is also more clickbait worthy, hence the false title of this video.
@@AdhdPlans This is a very good point and quite relevant as you can bet many users here are hoping that the services can be combined not just for a faster single pipe but also to not lock say a Zoom session into either network circuit. My Starlink drops 2-3 times an hour for 10-15 seconds, just long enough to make it unusable. I have slow DSL but if I could multiplex within a given app session but this would required routing, not just bridging. Note he's turning the ISP routers into bridges (makes sense for them) but I want some intelligence at the routing level. I'm going to look into Channel Bonding, thanks. UPDATE: Wow, the industry is slimy. Channel Bonding really isn't possible. Sigh.
With your system, if one Provider goes down and you are on that network at the time on a zoom call, will the TP link seamlessly flip you over to the functioning provider, or will the zoom call drop?
Did you do an attic install? Where are you? In Texas I easily see it overheating in the summer. I see the cables routed and dressed and the shelves installed. The install looks clean, but wouldn't the attic heat cause issues with overheating and power consumption, or UPS problems?
A router could probably handle the heat ok but the battery backup would not
I have both WOW and Spectrum. If each service got it's own cable modem, could I connect to one with ethernet to my laptop, and connect to the other with Wifi to the same laptop? Do I need to configure my laptop to handle both connections simultaneously, or does that happen automatically?
That will not work, you need the load balancing router
thanks great video, is there a way to combine the modems so that you can use it as one modem, instead of switching between the 2 modems? thanks
Hi there. Thanks for the video.
Q1. If the main modem provided to me by my isp does not allow bridge mode, can I still use the load balancing router by connecting the main modem to the wan port of the load balancing router?
Q 2. Say i have 3 isp connected and using the load balancing router. And one of them goes down then it will automatically use rhe other two and provides non stop internet correct?
How seamless does the router re-rout a dropped connection? Like say I'm streaming live content and one connection drops, will I experience a lag spike or timeout while it switches over?
I just got Starlink and the speeds are great but I run into certain times of the day where it drops over and over again for seconds at a time. It's driving me nuts.
I was wondering the exact same thing. I use StarLink for video conferencing and for WiFi calling on my phone (I'm in a dead zone). The signal is crystal clear, but I'm finding I have problems with calls suddenly dropping. I'm wondering if a failover to my 5Mbps LTE system will prevent that from happening, but not sure if the failover is fast enough.
This is amazing does anyone know which model the TP-Link is please as there's 2 versions on amazon one load balancing one and the other is a VPN/Router I'm guessing ill need the load balancing one can anyone confirm please
Load balancing
i have a wireless camera in my outer bldg that is not getting any signal. I connected one end of a cat 6 ethernet to my router in my house, and ran the cable out to the outer bldg. what should i do on that end to get signal to my camera? I have an old router, can it be configured as an access point and will that give me a signal to my camera? The camera has no ethernet port on it. thanks in advance.
Can you do this with combining Satellite and Hot spot?
Possibly, although you would need a special router to connect the hotspot to
@@SSLFamilyDad what kind of router, I dont even know what search for that.
How did you like Hughes Net? We live on an remote island and that really our only option. I can’t upload videos here so I have to take a 40 min boat ride to town to upload. I’d love to have internet but not sure it’s worth it. Also wondering how long a 10 min video took to upload when you had it?
We have a signal booster which gives us very slow 4G and two bars. Thanks.
One of my subscribers recommended you so I’m new to the your channel.👍
Can you please do physical practical of this?
The title of the video indicates you can combine two services to create one fast one. But, you say at 4:20 that it's not the same as combining them. I have several slow connections that I want to bridge into one fast one. Do you know of a way to do this?
This is the best way to do it. Not bonding but load balancing is similar except for a single thread download.
How do you do that with two wifi services like Starlink and Rogers (Canada)? Does it work the same? I would like to combine them on one computer to improve performance.
Yes, same. You hook up one provider to one port and the other to another port and it will load balance between them
From the load balancing router can you go through an Eero mesh network system?
On all mesh systems you normally connect a LAN cable to the router or modem in order to be able to navigate. In this case you will connect to a port configured as LAN (no WAN)
Hey, how can i contact you privately? I have a couple questions and it would be awesome to get some support
Would this work if I have 2 Wifi routers configured to connect to one another via a LAN cable and I connect my 2 ISP lines to each of their WAN ports(One cable to each router)?
Can you control that TP router with Alexa? Also does it provide any parental control options and how are reliable those?
thanks, very helpful. what about a wireless load balancing router? im working from my camper, in my driveway most of the time, but occasionally from a campground, and I'd like to pull in the wifi from wherever i am, plus my hotspot from my phone, and have a router smart manage these multiple connections to automatically give me the best signal.
I don’t know if wireless load balancing devices exist. But you can get 2 wireless bridges and use them like the modems. They would physically plug into the load balancer’s WAN ports. You can connect them as clients to the different wireless sources. I saw a video a while back where they set up a Ubiquity wireless device to connect to the park’s hotspot. You’ll want to make sure the different wireless devices are not too close to each other so that they do not interfere.
Is there an option on the router to use as just a failsafe incase one internet service goes out? Our second service don't have unlimited data and they don't throttle, they just charge extra. I want to set it up so when our main goes down, that's the only time it switches. Thanks for the video.
Hey bro, great video i am looking at doing this however i was looking at bonding my 2 connections, what does it show when you run a speedtest? for example if you have 2 lines which produced 100mbps each with the load balance does this show a speed of 200mbps or will it just run the check on the first line it grabs? also do you ever have issues with the load balancing like packet loss or bad latency?
This will not join the two connections in that way. If you run a speed test it will route you to the fastest available connection and you will get the speed on that line
Awesome help tool for all of us out there! I have a home mesh network (with router and access points of tp link deco m9 plus) - and want to enable those devices on 2 separate internet connections that i have at home (since invariably one is either slow or just down) --- how do i do that?
Hello! I’ve been a follower of your channel for a few weeks now and I must say I really enjoy your content and what you stand for. I wanted to reach out ask you, what is it that you do for a living as you mentioned briefly in this video that you work remotely? I hope that’s not too personal of information, but I am simply curious is all. Thanks and have a blessed day!
Load balancing isn't the same as connection bonding or aggregation. Being "out in the sticks" I have 2 slow internet providers zippy dsl and t mobile home internet. Could you please do a video on how to do link aggregation or bonding?
Bonding requires much more expensive equipment or complicated setups using a computer/ software. Load balancing has almost the same result with the exception of a single faster download or upload speed. For most users in a home with multiple people, load balancing will actually give you an overall faster result
Hi, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question... Can I use a different bandwidth or speed when using a load balancing? Example. 100Mbps for the first network and 50Mbps for the 2nd one? Or it should have the same speed? Thank you!
Yes, two different speeds are totally fine. It will route based on available bandwidth
If you have 100 one in first and 50 in another end....
What it does
It basically combines the speed based on physical port capability and WiFi generation compatible speed range ..
If anyone wicket is over ..the one of above will work upon either...
Thanks. I figured there'd be a solution for this. Our ISP is usually pretty reliable and decent speeds, but I plan to give Starlink a go and was wondering how I could use both. Also, having the failover is awesome, since I WFH too. Thankfully only lost internet once for a few hours in a couple years, so far, but will be nice to have the dual benefit.
I have Starlink as a primary and AT&T Home as a backup. The failover modem I have takes about 5 seconds to notice and switch over to the back up. I'm looking for a modem that will do WAN Bonding which will make the failover seamless.
@@jackni41 I have Ubiquiti USG. It supports load balancing and failover. I haven’t tested failover.
Hi! I got my setup based on your video. I have 2 different ISPs using point-to-point antennas in Colombia. It took me 2 headache filled days to figure this out. It's NOT plug and play, and there's no setup wizard that will do the work for you. Also the manual for the TL-R605 fully explains HOW to use every feature of the unit - but NOTHING about WHAT TO DO or WHY. So when I hooked everything up like you described, with 2 WANs, there were no connections at all. :-0! And there was zero on the web showing me how to do this specific setup. LUCKILY, I looked at your video one more time and heard one key word "I set the modems up in bridge mode" - and I finally said AHHA. So I reset and reconfigured each modem to act as an "ACCESS POINT" and bingo! Now this system humming along just fine. Question: Do you use any static IPs or just let the modems decide what they want? Thanks again!!!!
I let the modems get the ip from the provider and then the router pulls it in. Maybe I should do a video on step by step setup, glad you figured it out!
@@SSLFamilyDad Yes... there is no real step by step process for doing this out there. There ARE cheesey watch me do it videos with canned music, but they don't explain the why and the what at all. I believe this "trick" will be a valued tool used by many in the very near future, as everyone needs more reliable bandwidth. Thanks so much - this one video has changed my life!
Exactly what I needed
One of the few benefits of living in suburbia....City won't let me have ducks, but I do get 1Gbit up/down for $65 a month so thats something.
Why did this video get so few views? People get scared when you mention bridge mode, but turning all the default wifi garbage that comes from the ISP helps reduce noise on wifi.
At my pharmacy I have two internet providers....suddenly suddenlink which has a cable router and att router that has the phone jack type connection. When we upgraded our suddenlink modem to the faster one our computer system would not recognize the ip address. To solve this we added a nighthawk router. But now when one goes down and we plug the other into router it gives an error message that it doesn't recognize ip configuration.....so I have to call and get the router manipulated to recognize ip address. This load balance router sounds like a solution that in theory both could be connected to and we would never know when one is down and therefore wouldn't have to swap out modems and cause the ip confusion. Just wondering if this would fix my issue.
Correct!
Super helpful video.
God bless this guy ♥
This is the kinda thing I dream every airbnb would have
in this scenario Do I get double NAT problem?
No
but I checked a lot if documents some says put your ISP modem in to bridge mode some did not mentioned it I am really confused, I have two ISP and I want to do Load balancing and failover using Tplink Dual wan ER707 m2 should I put my ISP Modems in Bridge mode?
@@SSLFamilyDad
There is a good possibility you will have access to a 1gbp/s download satellite option by the end of the year when starlink comes online and unlike other services living in the middle of nowhere will mean a better connection. It will be good for general net use along with uploading but bad for gaming until enough ground stations are put in for people to be able to play fully on it and no longer need the internet bridges.
Yes and no. I'm here because I have StarLink currently, but some obstructions cause it to drop fairly often. I need a failover system to address the problems that creates. Currently, StarLink is sometimes as slow as 5Mbps. Both the obstruction and speed issues will be mitigated as more satellites go up. For that matter, we may get a grant to put in Comcast in the next couple of years, rendering all of this moot.
Load balancing doesn't actually increase speed though. You need to bond through a VPN or something. Are you actually getting a speed boost using this setup?
Thanks. I was looking for bounding 2 internet.
Inaccurate description. Load balancing is not the same as bonding. It's a whole lot better than nothing but it is NOT combining 2 services. Sorry, not technically accurate.
actually the TP-Link load balancer can improve your connections by combinding both speeds. it's amazing! Yes I know how it works.
Can someone please tell me exactly what the product name is so I can look it up to order one cuz I’m trying to join 2 services into 1 service as I’m out in the sticks of Vermont with horrible internet speeds??! Again I apologize I’m not tech smart but this will make the 25 mbps individual services and combine em and make 50mbps correct??
Kind of, it allows both services to act as one but doesn’t combine the total speed. It splits your downloads over both connections therefore speeding up overall speed in your home especially for multiple users. The link is in the description
I need to mix my company sap network and internet network (both are different network) and mix up. How can I do it.
My sap work on company network and internet on another.
Do I use force bind it.
Two adaptors and two network on same one computer.
I want to connect only one network adaptor so that both network after being mixed will enter in my desktop, and sap will chanalise through sap network and internet will chanalise through internet network.
but in this case ... if we have limited data ...as example i've connected wifi from a neighbor and also with a hotspot from my mobile ..and i got only 2GB Data
in this case ... which data the connection will use ? my 2GB data and it will be finished ? or the data of the neighbor Wifi ?
thank you
Thanks Mate... Great video...
would this be a solution to eliminate internet dropping off ? So when one provider goes out, with the 2nd keep the internet running?
Yes, works great for that
Hi, would this also works to speed up uploads? Also, would the Mikrotik Hex Series work as well? Please someone? Thanks in advance. My job requires 5Mb uploads and I can only get where I live.
Question: I a little confused....is the speed increased over the maximun from any one service or is the max avaiable the fastest service?
No. That max download or upload speeds provided by the internet service provider would not change from the Max up or down that you pay for. The router only picks between the two lines and determines which one is fastest at the time you are try to access it and then routes traffic to that one.
@@MrSovrin Is there a way to connect two ISPs to actually increase the max speed? or is something like that not possible?
what named of device you mean dude? i need that device to combined speed like 2 or more ISP. THANKS
This really is incredibly helpful - thank you! I have recently got an LTE connection because our copper is incredibly slow, but it will be great to have the old connection in place as a backup when the 4g gets flaky.
Does the TP-Link have routing functionality like DHCP or should that all be done by the wireless router?
SSLFamilyDad If one service stops working, will the signal from the other internet service providence continue to work?
Yes
Awesome information thanks a lot!!
Perfect!! Thanks For that
So I have to buy such router.. which has atleast 2 WAN ports?....
Can i combine two the same isp?🙂
Yes, will need two separate lines to your house though
I want to use this for my streaming. Problem with one of my ISP is sometimes upload is not optimal for 1080p60fps streaming so is this a viable solution? will it know that my PC needs 6mbps for streaming and one of my isp can only give 4? also sometimes one of my ISP has 5-10% packet loss. will this automatically fix it if one ISP is stable and the other is not? TIA
This will work in your case as far as I can tell. The router will pick the best connection upload or download based on packet loss and overall speed from the way I understand it. Either way, you should get the best choice for uploading at the time you start the upload
Very useful. Thanks a lot
I presume, though, that in the middle of a Zoom call, if the router has me on "ISP A", and then "ISP A" goes down, then the Zoom call quits. I could perhaps re-start it on "ISP B", but that's what I'd have to do. Or is that just not true?
It should maintain your connection without any interruption
@@SSLFamilyDad Have you had this experience yourself? Like maybe Zoom is smart enough to do quick re-tries, even when it's in the middle of something. That would make sense of course.
Though I do have the Henry Ford choice when it comes to the internet (any color you want. so long as it's black). At the same time, my choice is the best telephone coop in the nation.
SSLfamilydad: if you are crazy you will do 4 connections
Me: with 5 isp connections
Btw thant you so much for this video ! Really helpful !