Just to be clear, this video uses oversimplified "napkin math" just to explain the concepts of "damage" in Rise of Kingdoms. The "Actual" battle formula has never been revealed! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content like this! :)
Napkin math is all well and good for me. Yeah, I've noticed that especially in SOC kvk's you usually need to use 50% expansion in big battle's. Maybe in smaller brawl's you get by with 25%. 1 reason I have a jumper group going now is to see if I can take my main back to kvk 2 or 3 and beyond in new group. We do have pretty solid kingdom running and we're waiting for kvk's there still. Also if I get to kvk's for season it would help me save sculptures also I can immediately max few of my SOC commander's too. Also won't mind the fact that I don't need to buy crystal tech... Lol
Why does my skill damage drop if attacking a player with lower troop count? Like a 200k march attack a 100k. Multi target AOE is strangely reduces damage on the primary target and does most damages to the last target hit. You can see this when chaining barbarians with YSG
Hi Omni, really enjoying your content! I am a little lost when it comes to armaments and equipment... What should I be aiming for and avoiding? How do I get there as fast as possible? Would hugely appreciate a video that touches on these aspects. Much love!
Havent played since 2021 but I still watch your guides because you're a good dude and your perspective on the game helped me out immensely when I was playing. More videos on your other channel, my boy!
Why do people not use Caesar like an Attila. Caesar has 20% all damage all the time, and when his skill pops off he has 50% all damage for 5 seconds, plus 20% attack and defence for 5 seconds. Has a 10% damage reduction on at all times as well. Also won’t decrease the primary or secondary’s commander’s skill damage like Attila does.
By looking at the thumbnail ominarch city was getting swarmed by "El cid,Ceaser,Martel & Richard" 💀 now i see why omiarch needs to keep making this videos
I prefer ring if it's a double-aoe pairing like LC/Scipio or Guan/Scipio. Best helmet and boots depends, I usually like the 4 piece set bonus for extra march speed, which means you'd need the set boots and helmet. For garrisons or max damage you can do Shio's Return and KvK Helmet if you don't mind less march speed
Great video Omni! Thx again brother. BTW question for community here, do i need Liu che to be at least 5551 before even thinking of using it? Or is 5511 okay -ish?
You now compared basic attacks vs 1 commander dealing skill damage. In reality you have 2 commanders in your pair, which not really increases the basic attack damage much, but adds a extra skill damage each skill cycle. A much easier way to explain and demonstrate how strong skill damage is: Let two marches with no instant procs and meta skill damage factor fight. Then go into the battle log and calculate how much damage total is dealt by a march. And then how much of that damage was dealt by skills and how much by basic attacks. With two meta skill damage based commanders skill damage contributes roughly 65-70%. With AOE commanders this of course this is even higher and typically lies within the 80-90% range.
"You might think you are but you're actually not" Very true...watched for like 3-4 months thinking I was subscribed, and the other day I decided to look down just to realize I wasn't 😂 Dw I made sure I am now 😉
Please reply im a 200k power player stopped playing the game and have 2 or 3 useless charater on 3 to 4 k power and their civs are i wanted to test like otto germ etc. I didnt play it for 8 to 9 months or a year or 2 so should i start over cause i already deleted my acc i mean its still in process so should i cancel? it please reply
hey omni i haven’t watched it he vid yet but i was just looking at it and thinking aoe has completely taken over the game i had my first kvk fight threw my sun richard in the field horrible trades threw sun aeth in the field did insane i wish they would fix this issue
Liu Che has Smite damge is it like skill damage or not. So if i play with twilight falls it has 5% more skill damage so is liu ches smite damage also +5% or not?
for the 10th time I hear the number 69, something seems to me that people do not want to exceed this number because it is the most sexy number, for example, the number 70 already seems terribly unattractive but that's just my opinion
Genuinely i wanna ask u ? People say health always but without tech you are nthg so i guess attack is most valuable and i think 3% attack give 1% skill damage
Are you sure about "damage" and "number of troops remaining" dependence? Severely wounded percentage definitely depends, but I'm not sure about "damage".
Omni can u test battle simulator comparing archer leadership equip meta? 1. 2-2-2 (kvk, Db glove chest, leader boot leg) 2. 2-2-2 (kvk, milky-ian choice, leader boot leg) all in health 3. 2-2-2 (kvk, db chest boot, leader glove leg) get rid attck Thank you.
Omni why u dodging the kvk drama u in with archer u know your kingdom is betrayers and trash so why do u continue to stay in that kingdom or do u like being in a traitor slash betrayer kvk cry baby kingdom
![How much better is Smite Damage than Skill Damage? [Rise of Kingdoms]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SS47h933rTg/mqdefault.jpg)
Just to be clear, this video uses oversimplified "napkin math" just to explain the concepts of "damage" in Rise of Kingdoms. The "Actual" battle formula has never been revealed! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content like this! :)
cwill channel have some formula figured out
Napkin math is all well and good for me. Yeah, I've noticed that especially in SOC kvk's you usually need to use 50% expansion in big battle's.
Maybe in smaller brawl's you get by with 25%.
1 reason I have a jumper group going now is to see if I can take my main back to kvk 2 or 3 and beyond in new group. We do have pretty solid kingdom running and we're waiting for kvk's there still. Also if I get to kvk's for season it would help me save sculptures also I can immediately max few of my SOC commander's too. Also won't mind the fact that I don't need to buy crystal tech... Lol
Sub'd a while ago.
You can test this, but normal atk dmg boosts are multiplicative on smite dmg.
Just like skill dmg.
Thumbs up for this one Omni, great stuff as always
Thank you! 😁
Hi Omniarch, is zhuge liang a good first archer commander and if so, who should I pair him with? (kvk 3 archer wheel.) Thanks!
If you’re in kvk 3 and have expertise ysg use zhuge ysg, but if not get zhuge and use him with Herman prime
If you run out on gold heads from investing in ZL for kvk3 ZL/kusinoki will be decent. Especially since kusinoki will clear Herman poison
Think the phrase you meant to say is “Force Multiplier.” Great Video.
Thank you! 😁
Why does my skill damage drop if attacking a player with lower troop count? Like a 200k march attack a 100k.
Multi target AOE is strangely reduces damage on the primary target and does most damages to the last target hit. You can see this when chaining barbarians with YSG
Hi Omni, really enjoying your content! I am a little lost when it comes to armaments and equipment... What should I be aiming for and avoiding? How do I get there as fast as possible? Would hugely appreciate a video that touches on these aspects. Much love!
Havent played since 2021 but I still watch your guides because you're a good dude and your perspective on the game helped me out immensely when I was playing. More videos on your other channel, my boy!
I really appreciate that man, thanks! Yeah I need to get more videos up over there, been very busy this month unfortunately
bro your the best just what we needed
you did same and much better we expected
thank you
say multiplicative...one...more...time! Hey really, thx for making some of the muddy water clear
Why do people not use Caesar like an Attila. Caesar has 20% all damage all the time, and when his skill pops off he has 50% all damage for 5 seconds, plus 20% attack and defence for 5 seconds. Has a 10% damage reduction on at all times as well. Also won’t decrease the primary or secondary’s commander’s skill damage like Attila does.
That's true but it's the same reason why you don't see that many Attila anymore either tbh
@@OmniarchOfficial A test against the city would be interesting
Doesnt he also have a unit capacity bonus? Like 15% or something? This just causes your skill damage to be higher when it proce
What if: inf commander prim city def with full crit cav gear so if and cav both go crazy?
By looking at the thumbnail ominarch city was getting swarmed by "El cid,Ceaser,Martel & Richard" 💀 now i see why omiarch needs to keep making this videos
LOL don't worry it was just for the thumbnail
Hi. Wich equipment is better for infa? Ring or the dagger? And what is the best helmet and boots for infa?
I prefer ring if it's a double-aoe pairing like LC/Scipio or Guan/Scipio. Best helmet and boots depends, I usually like the 4 piece set bonus for extra march speed, which means you'd need the set boots and helmet. For garrisons or max damage you can do Shio's Return and KvK Helmet if you don't mind less march speed
Oh whoops I read that wrong. Thought you where comparing dagger to horn
Great video Omni! Thx again brother. BTW question for community here, do i need Liu che to be at least 5551 before even thinking of using it? Or is 5511 okay -ish?
I use Liu che with 5511 as a secondary to scipio 5551 and Its pretty good...so I'd say he is usable at 5511, but you should eventually expertise him
You now compared basic attacks vs 1 commander dealing skill damage. In reality you have 2 commanders in your pair, which not really increases the basic attack damage much, but adds a extra skill damage each skill cycle. A much easier way to explain and demonstrate how strong skill damage is: Let two marches with no instant procs and meta skill damage factor fight. Then go into the battle log and calculate how much damage total is dealt by a march. And then how much of that damage was dealt by skills and how much by basic attacks. With two meta skill damage based commanders skill damage contributes roughly 65-70%. With AOE commanders this of course this is even higher and typically lies within the 80-90% range.
"You might think you are but you're actually not"
Very true...watched for like 3-4 months thinking I was subscribed, and the other day I decided to look down just to realize I wasn't 😂
Dw I made sure I am now 😉
Please reply im a 200k power player stopped playing the game and have 2 or 3 useless charater on 3 to 4 k power and their civs are i wanted to test like otto germ etc. I didnt play it for 8 to 9 months or a year or 2 so should i start over cause i already deleted my acc i mean its still in process so should i cancel? it please reply
Probably best to start over!
@@OmniarchOfficial can i cancel and not to choose to start over please reply
Is it possible to create an archer pair with zhuge Liang and yi Seong gye with equipment focused on health and March speed
Does Aleksandr 2nd skill count as skill damage?
Last I checked, it does
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Actually I would like ask you these damages factors fortunately you make me no question ❤
Can you do a review on the new fishing event (when it comes around)
hey omni i haven’t watched it he vid yet but i was just looking at it and thinking aoe has completely taken over the game i had my first kvk fight threw my sun richard in the field horrible trades threw sun aeth in the field did insane i wish they would fix this issue
Interesting! Yeah sun/aethel is a good early game combo
The issue was Richard. Hes a pve commander. One of the best pve coms, but not good on the field
i’ve thrown sun richard on duels and they’ve done well but yea pvp is eh because my richard is only 5111
@@Whitecrocs-eh6zi how long have you been playing? A casual f2p player in any kd I've been in would eat a Richard/sun march alive
Liu Che has Smite damge is it like skill damage or not. So if i play with twilight falls it has 5% more skill damage so is liu ches smite damage also +5% or not?
No
for the 10th time I hear the number 69, something seems to me that people do not want to exceed this number because it is the most sexy number, for example, the number 70 already seems terribly unattractive but that's just my opinion
Fax LOL
Really good video 😊
Thank you! 😁
Does attack increase smite/normal damage?
Yes
Waiting for the 10000 skill damage commander ., not too far now
It been 4 years that I follow your a.ss and you never disappoint W subscribe definitely
Genuinely i wanna ask u ? People say health always but without tech you are nthg so i guess attack is most valuable and i think 3% attack give 1% skill damage
Tech is important because it gives you more damage and more troop capacity and more troop dispatches - the attack is just nice because it’s more stats
Liu with Ceaser is not bad,if that's all you have
What about cao cao
He's not great
Berber series instead of Richter؟😢
Are you sure about "damage" and "number of troops remaining" dependence? Severely wounded percentage definitely depends, but I'm not sure about "damage".
To be clear, more troops means you will deal more damage. Not a percentage of troops remaining
Please nerf aoe skill by adding skills reflecting x% dmg of any aoe dmg troop received. This might change present’s meta
That would be insane, like a skill damage counter attack
Thank you
Omni can u test battle simulator comparing archer leadership equip meta?
1. 2-2-2 (kvk, Db glove chest, leader boot leg)
2. 2-2-2 (kvk, milky-ian choice, leader boot leg) all in health
3. 2-2-2 (kvk, db chest boot, leader glove leg) get rid attck
Thank you.
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Omni why u dodging the kvk drama u in with archer u know your kingdom is betrayers and trash so why do u continue to stay in that kingdom or do u like being in a traitor slash betrayer kvk cry baby kingdom
Brother what are you talking about. It’s time to get some fresh air my man