Chris Liepe is the best TH-cam vocal teacher I’ve ever found. He’s actually practical and doesn’t just give you an exercise and then advertise paid courses. He gives you everything
@Pink Panther I hear ya... I do very much get far more from the lessons when I'm not tolerating some arrogant turkey who's yapping like you don't know and that's why you came to his video and blah blah.... well duh I came to watch because the topic was relevant... but that doesn't mean I wanna be talked to lile I'm just ignorant or lost... musicians and actors and athletes and politicians are very typical.. so it's appreciated to have respect from someone you offer your focus to... but I'd have that beer.. for sure... later cuzin.... lol
Just checking in, it's been two years now, I did excessive drugs and drinking, my voice is amazing, and now I have a song ready to hit double platinum, thanks Chris!
Before i listened to Jonny's stuff few years ago, i was trying not to grit/rasp because i thought it was bad. Now i'm belting that grit/rasp effortless and it feels awesome. Thanks Chris for showing people proper technique.
I have been a crazy big Jonny Craig fan for the past 10 years. I am now a classically trained choral music teacher and I have finally found my rasp! DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOURSELF!
I love this comment. I've been classically trained, musical theater trained... as much as I've loved being in choruses, it's just not where my heart is. But I just can't stop singing pretty.
Finally a proper video explaining rasp in the singing voice. Singing with rasp has always been the most natural thing for me but for years I've never been able to find a proper educational video explaining the technique behind rasp. So I've never understood how I did it and at many occasions that has caused pain and frustration for me. THANK YOU! Finally I understand what my body want to do when I sing and how I can safely turn that on and off. Again, thank you guys!
I have been studying how Jonny Craig sings since he first inspired me to begin in late 2009. I pirated an incredible Learn To Sing course that was way too expensive for a kid like me at the time. These lessons I pirated make me feel lucky as they do what most youtube teachers dont do(Mainly because its boring) but it started with lessons on vocal pedagogy and what all goes into singing. I really think this is crucial for new singers and it really seems like Chris includes this in his free stuff, which is great. For people having a hard time figuring out how to engage your false cords, the false cords are what reinforce your vocal chords when you are doing any kind of singing in your mixed register. A great way to ensure you aren't dragging unneeded weight into your mixed register/high notes do a scale ascending from G2-A2, do a pentatonic scale, up and down. Do a vi sound(VEEE) and a vo (VOHG) at the top. so Vi VI VI VO VO(hold at the top, and now descend) VI VI VO VO. This will teach you to sing notes that are in high chest in mixed voice, and also help sing low head voice in mixed. This is crucial for being as agile as johnny but also being able to bring the power. After you know that feeling of your false cords supporting your actual vocal folds, you will be able to tighten or loosen them. Experiment a bit with it.
I don't know how to do this,, but it it kind of clicking in my mind. Such a weird way to explain it but it makes sense, thank you very much for typing all that out just to help
I’ve seen Jonny live with about every band he’s been in, solo included, and his voice can truly put you in every single emotion all at once. He has a real gift. Shame what he’s done, but I’ll never not love his voice.
The way I understand this, you accomplish things "in partnership" with your voice rather than by "commanding" your voice. Alas I think this would be one major difference between approaching classical guitar and singing. If you accomplish things from the standpoint of awareness and using technique that allow you to setup your voice to reach these results (and the process then changes each day or even across the day) while doing so healthily keeping in mind that like the rest of your body each day you have a slightly different starting point. This is just so very cool !!
Jonny is a great example for artist. He might not have the best reputation, but he has made decisions that shaped him and his voice. And boy is that voice great and beautiful.
With rasp, just sing as quietly as possible and include a lil whisper, but make it smoothe. You’ll get an airy rasp that you can control. ( I sang while my parents slept
Chris you’re the best vocal teacher, you really are….. my request is can you do a video on “old” rock ‘n’ roll screams.. Little Richard, Screaming Jay Hawkens, John Lennon (dizzy Miss Lizzie) James Brown, Jim Morrison, etc.
If you decide to do a video on old rock ‘n’ roll screams please don’t leave out the John Lennon scream in dizzy Miss Lizzie because that is the most useful old Rock ‘n’ roll scream that you hear on many many recordings.
Oh gosh. Finally. I'm tryin to learn how to use my false cords right. It took me about three months and so many videos of singers, or coaches, or you actually, teaching and explaining this. So I said to myself ,,ok, try to sing with distortion, because you like Alter bridge or A farewell fire." So I came here, and I finally got it. I've understood ,,the compression" thanks to you, because I tried what you've told in this video. Ironically trying to rasp and grit with my voice got me to the sweet spot of growling 🤣 but gosh. I have no abs, so they got tired really quick 🤣 at least I know I'm doing it right, because it sounds much more better than before. I finally feel it "in my cheeks" and my throat doesn't hurt. I made it wrong a couple of times and the pain was unbelievable. I stopped and tried it again. Now I understand and it felt so great, that it made me laugh from the happiness 😃 thanks again 🤘🏻
Cool video, thanks Chris. Kelly Jones (Stereophonics) Paolo Nutini and Terrence Trent Darby are my favourite exponents of this sound, I've always found rasp more difficult than grit, I think this video will help.
This was really helpful, I have a natural raspy voice, and this made me discover differents aprochaches to that sound that I didn't knew it was possible with my own voice. Great as always Chris, thanks!
Back just to say, of all your videos on grit, this is the one that seems to be clicking with me (an eternal not-gritty-without-extreme-discomfort singer).
Raspy singers are interesting to me, as some have healthy habits and many do not. I go back to old interviews and performances (when they arent sick, and their good shows) to see and hear how they've changed over the years. Many artists with this style tend to have their speaking voices change. Jonny Craig and M Shadows voices have raised in tamber(?) over the years. Their voices were lower when they were younger. I know Shadows has said he started singing unhealthy before he hired his vocal coach to help him keep his sound but protect his voice too. I wonder if they do this on purpose like MJ did to protect his voice, or if its just damage and muscle memory
It's so awesome to see 3 of you talking about this stuff! Damn! I wish we could get this 10 years ago man... One thing i wish you covered is different ranges of using grit! For me personally it's quite easy to do grit in my chest register up to F#4 maybe G4 (but depends on the sounds I have to make for G). Anyway in head voice or let's say higher mixed voice it's significantly harder to do that same grit... I can't seem to get the sensation of where the grit should be concentrated... where the sound should originate... and Jonny is really good at that... thinking of that intro in "The Past Should Stay Dead". That's the struggle and I imagine I am most likely not the only one having issues with this.
Where was this video when I wanted to sing with girt so badly?! Thanks so much for making this kind of videos and inviting guests, it's super helpful to learn different approaches. Also, it helps when I imagine that the "huaaaah" sound is going through my nose and eyes, it allows me to keep it above my voice box.
What he said at 2:44 MAY have just cracked the code for me. Instead of thinking about rasp, I'm thinking about "air on top of the otherwise clean tone."
I've been trying to learn to sing like Jørn Lande as he performed on his Pentakill albums and this is a great start for me. I'd love to see his voice analyzed on here.
See the way I found it was from the belt. I don't remember starting at the gritty or closed sounds and building it into the belted sound like you guys are doing here. I had to hold the clean belted notes and feel out the sound from there because that helped me keep the balance between note and grit. If I start from the grit and try to sing through it I just choke.
So if I'm understanding correctly, grit is generated via false vocal fold distortion, which when applied lightly will give you grit like Jonny/Bruno Mars/Freddie Mercury, and when applied heavily will be a pitched scream a la Sam Carter?
@@chrisliepe My voice has a natural fry engagement to it and I've been exploiting it to bring grit and do pitched scream (basicaly, a loud fry distortion engages automatically when I belt, I need to consciously remove it to have cleaner belts). So far there is no damage to my voice and it never hurt. Is this another technique or am I doing something wrong and should rework my voice engagement?
@@DoomickthePancake There's some major misconceptions out there... It's not actually "Fry". It's different levels of false cord engagement. Everyone calls it fry and that gets confused with actual fry which is loose primary cord engagement. You would do well to practice certain ways of engaging your vocal tract in CLEAN only singing and then learning how to engage mild false cord engagement 'at will'. You might be interested in this? No pressure :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack/
@@chrisliepe Thank you for your reply! I assumed it was fry since it felt like the same kind of off vibrations and resonated higher than my false chord engagements (I feel the vibration in my sinuses almost instead of my soft palate). I already have worked on cleaning my voice and will continue doing so as long as I can.
Wow, after this video I finally managed to engage my false chords consiously. Thank you! (I tried for a few months already and was only able to use fry screams)
Make sure you sign up for Jonny's free course we talk about in the video! Spencer and Jonny co wrote and produced two songs while they were out here at my studio... AND we did a course around it! If you sign up for this free one, you'll get an invite to that experience with Spencer and Jonny!
Omg, the song he sings in the beginning is freaking awesome, someone knows the name or what's it about? I need this song full released in my life right now! haha
Not really a fan of how Chris "confirms" his grit in his voice is a result of drug use lol, you can see how J has grown because he can objectively view this without being defensive.
He did it as tactfully as possible. To avoid it completely and pretend like that wasnt a big part of JC's career (and affected his vocals) would be phony & patronizing I think
First thing to let me do grit or anything remotely distorted without feeling like I'll regret it an awful lot if I continue. It felt bubbly/crackly but "smooth".
Chris! Have you ever heard of Yannis Papadopoulos? I’d love to see you tackle some power metal vocalists because they’re so insane. I also think your voice would fit super well in the genre. You should check out some of his clips and maybe do a video on him! Dude’s got grit for days and plays with it in a super exaggerated, wacky way.
35 years of smoking weed will NOT guarantee you a raspy voice, trust me, haha Tensing my lower torso does however, break up my voice to some degree adding rasp and grit to my singing voice. One of many tips from Chris that's helped my singing over the last year.
Always DOWNWARD! join my free course for more info on that! Jonny’s doesn’t cover that but any of my other videos link to my free course which will help you dial in your support :)
It's interesting that you equate a grunt with damage to the voice. I could engage and disengage a natural grunt since I was around 8, and if anything i barely used my voice otherwise, so it's likely a natural human sound that we are taught away from, and the negation of it is artificial, it's the most natural of human sounds, and the key to doing the movie announcer voice.
Chris, I really am struggling with singing , I can sing clean, my tonality isnt great but I try to add distortion and I find it super hard to balance it out. I tend to go to much into the screamy sound, and I'm holding back so much here. Its just so much fry. And that's not what I am trying to achieve. The pitch screams sound fun, but I want more simply gritty high cleans. What do I do?
Start by joining my free course linked in most of my videos. This one Jonny Craig video so it doesn’t have a link to the specific free course I’m talking about, but almost every other video has a link that says: FREE VOICE LESSONS. Start there :)
Chris I would think that you are a clear tenor but Jonny has a way higher, yet lighter speaking voice, like he doesn't project or hit as much with his voice when talking kinda reminds me of Michael Jackson, is this the difference between tenors or could you guys sound like each other with different approaches or what? I think I'm a tenor but compared to others like Bruno Mars or something I more 'hit' notes than glide effortlessly through them, also it is hard to bring any bassyness into my sound at all so I try to make up for it with rasp
Depends on what you mean by "fry scream" - there are so many of these terms out there, it's hard to always know what one means when they use a term like that. For me, a fry scream is when you make that "popping" sound like when you just wake up or you're very tired, hold that sound, and kind of "push" into it. If that's what you mean by fry, then it's not really the same, even if a lot of the same vocal muscles and tissues are used. You can kiiind of try to get to grid by doing fry and then moderating it (blending it in with your regular voice), but this has never worked well for me, because your fry scream (or at least my fry scream) is a sensitive little snowflake sometimes, and breaks up whenever you push too much. IMHO, Chris' approach with holding back air and pushing against that is much better, gets you there much quickly, and is much easier to do because it's something that we do naturally (when lifting heavy stuff or dropping our unmentionables down the toilet). We don't naturally blend our vocal fry with our regular voice on purpose, this is something that people never do in their regular speech. You're only ever "naturally" in fry when you're on the bottom of your vocal range, and using as little air as possible to speak/sing, so the chords don't close properly. Highly recommend that you check out his free vocal course, it really helps lay down these fundamentals quickly and gets you in the right mindset about these things
@@dzamija922 wow, thanks for the reply. I'm aware that fry scream means different stuff, but I meant what Chris did at 10:37, and I think Chris also uses term fry scream for those louder screams. I tried experimenting with this approach of lifting heavy stuff, and kinda managed to go smoothly from really light grit to full fry scream, so I assumed the positioning for both of these things is the same, it didnt hurt, but I'm still not sure if its correct.
Drugs and cigarettes won't help you with the rasp, I learned the hard way. I can do false chords scream very well, if I add false cord to my voice I can do it in chest voice, but no falsetto/mixed/high notes... I still haven't been able to make rasp whatever videos I watched. The only couple of times I managed was after screaming the whole night at a concert. Any tips? Been watching videos for 6years now
Jonny is like a superhuman. No matter how many drugs the guy does his vocal chords can't seem to die.
Yeah and no matter how many women he causes trauma to and abuses. Or gets his friends addicted to drugs and hurts people. He’s still not in jail.
@@trippydeadhead481 is it all true? I’m not denying or supporting I just want the truth as a fan. Ya feel?
@@ds698 no it's not.
Sounds like you know him? Why else would you sound so butthurt and personal
@@JohnDoe-mv2be bro literally just had his child taken away are you delousional
Chris Liepe is the best TH-cam vocal teacher I’ve ever found. He’s actually practical and doesn’t just give you an exercise and then advertise paid courses. He gives you everything
He isn't an arrogant turd and that alone to me is priceless
@Pink Panther I hear ya... I do very much get far more from the lessons when I'm not tolerating some arrogant turkey who's yapping like you don't know and that's why you came to his video and blah blah.... well duh I came to watch because the topic was relevant... but that doesn't mean I wanna be talked to lile I'm just ignorant or lost... musicians and actors and athletes and politicians are very typical.. so it's appreciated to have respect from someone you offer your focus to... but I'd have that beer.. for sure... later cuzin.... lol
Just checking in, it's been two years now, I did excessive drugs and drinking, my voice is amazing, and now I have a song ready to hit double platinum, thanks Chris!
Before i listened to Jonny's stuff few years ago, i was trying not to grit/rasp because i thought it was bad. Now i'm belting that grit/rasp effortless and it feels awesome. Thanks Chris for showing people proper technique.
You're very welcome!
Jonny Craig's voice can you move you to tears. I'd die happy if I could sound even a fraction as good
Doing drugs and drinking excessively will get me rasp confirmed. Thanks Chris
Haha!
One way to do it but won’t give you the best quality of life haha
Danny Worsnop can confirm it
Can confirm
@@chrisliepe that's subjective
I cant believe I just searched "chris liepe rasp" and BAM. Chris has a new one with my fave Jonny Craig.
You wanna buy a macbook?
I was thinking to myself how I can beef up my grit/rasp game 3 minutes before this video dropped. Amazing
Haha. I hope that continues! Mainly I just read the content and keep an eye out for popular requests :)
I have been a crazy big Jonny Craig fan for the past 10 years. I am now a classically trained choral music teacher and I have finally found my rasp! DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOURSELF!
I love this comment. I've been classically trained, musical theater trained... as much as I've loved being in choruses, it's just not where my heart is. But I just can't stop singing pretty.
I wish they did a whole album. These two tracks are some of Jonnys best solo work because they really show off his voice and are super catchy.
Is this snippet from a song of his? I am obsessed.
@@thebiglionsrule Jonny Craig - Didn't Ever Wanna Let You Go
Finally a proper video explaining rasp in the singing voice. Singing with rasp has always been the most natural thing for me but for years I've never been able to find a proper educational video explaining the technique behind rasp. So I've never understood how I did it and at many occasions that has caused pain and frustration for me. THANK YOU! Finally I understand what my body want to do when I sing and how I can safely turn that on and off. Again, thank you guys!
I have been studying how Jonny Craig sings since he first inspired me to begin in late 2009. I pirated an incredible Learn To Sing course that was way too expensive for a kid like me at the time. These lessons I pirated make me feel lucky as they do what most youtube teachers dont do(Mainly because its boring) but it started with lessons on vocal pedagogy and what all goes into singing. I really think this is crucial for new singers and it really seems like Chris includes this in his free stuff, which is great.
For people having a hard time figuring out how to engage your false cords, the false cords are what reinforce your vocal chords when you are doing any kind of singing in your mixed register. A great way to ensure you aren't dragging unneeded weight into your mixed register/high notes do a scale ascending from G2-A2, do a pentatonic scale, up and down. Do a vi sound(VEEE) and a vo (VOHG) at the top. so Vi VI VI VO VO(hold at the top, and now descend) VI VI VO VO. This will teach you to sing notes that are in high chest in mixed voice, and also help sing low head voice in mixed. This is crucial for being as agile as johnny but also being able to bring the power. After you know that feeling of your false cords supporting your actual vocal folds, you will be able to tighten or loosen them. Experiment a bit with it.
I don't know how to do this,, but it it kind of clicking in my mind. Such a weird way to explain it but it makes sense, thank you very much for typing all that out just to help
I’ve seen Jonny live with about every band he’s been in, solo included, and his voice can truly put you in every single emotion all at once. He has a real gift. Shame what he’s done, but I’ll never not love his voice.
Blue Dream is my FAVORITE song to sing.
Blue Dream will always have a special place in my mind and heart. I will always go powerless whenever the intro comes in.
One of my favorite vocalists of all time. Really happy I stumbled upon this.
I can’t get over how there were loads of requests for JC analysis over the months and you were like, “lol hold my beer”.
Great stuff and thanks!
The way I understand this, you accomplish things "in partnership" with your voice rather than by "commanding" your voice. Alas I think this would be one major difference between approaching classical guitar and singing.
If you accomplish things from the standpoint of awareness and using technique that allow you to setup your voice to reach these results (and the process then changes each day or even across the day) while doing so healthily keeping in mind that like the rest of your body each day you have a slightly different starting point.
This is just so very cool !!
Spencer & Jonny Craig in the same room 🤯🤯😩
Jonny is a great example for artist. He might not have the best reputation, but he has made decisions that shaped him and his voice. And boy is that voice great and beautiful.
Man to be in the same room with Jonny and Spencer would be so cool. Both are my singing idols.
Ya pretty awesome! :)
Honestly same. Have been my top 2 for at least a decade now.
With rasp, just sing as quietly as possible and include a lil whisper, but make it smoothe. You’ll get an airy rasp that you can control. ( I sang while my parents slept
Chris you’re the best vocal teacher, you really are….. my request is can you do a video on “old” rock ‘n’ roll screams.. Little Richard, Screaming Jay Hawkens, John Lennon (dizzy Miss Lizzie) James Brown, Jim Morrison, etc.
Thats a great idea!
If you decide to do a video on old rock ‘n’ roll screams please don’t leave out the John Lennon scream in dizzy Miss Lizzie because that is the most useful old Rock ‘n’ roll scream that you hear on many many recordings.
Screamin' Jay is the Father of all that stuff... a video on him would be superb
Oh gosh. Finally. I'm tryin to learn how to use my false cords right. It took me about three months and so many videos of singers, or coaches, or you actually, teaching and explaining this. So I said to myself ,,ok, try to sing with distortion, because you like Alter bridge or A farewell fire." So I came here, and I finally got it. I've understood ,,the compression" thanks to you, because I tried what you've told in this video. Ironically trying to rasp and grit with my voice got me to the sweet spot of growling 🤣 but gosh. I have no abs, so they got tired really quick 🤣 at least I know I'm doing it right, because it sounds much more better than before. I finally feel it "in my cheeks" and my throat doesn't hurt. I made it wrong a couple of times and the pain was unbelievable. I stopped and tried it again. Now I understand and it felt so great, that it made me laugh from the happiness 😃 thanks again 🤘🏻
Cool video, thanks Chris. Kelly Jones (Stereophonics) Paolo Nutini and Terrence Trent Darby are my favourite exponents of this sound, I've always found rasp more difficult than grit, I think this video will help.
The second someone name dropped Bruno Mars, Johnny's face instantly changed to "shit I could make a good ass Bruno Mars cover...."
This was really helpful, I have a natural raspy voice, and this made me discover differents aprochaches to that sound that I didn't knew it was possible with my own voice. Great as always Chris, thanks!
Nice to see Spencer, his singing on the chorus of Satelites is insaneee
I've always wanted to sing like Janis Joplin. I love watching videos of people listening to her sing for the first time.
Back just to say, of all your videos on grit, this is the one that seems to be clicking with me (an eternal not-gritty-without-extreme-discomfort singer).
It’s nice to see Johnny doing good and throwing himself into different projects..
dustin kensrue is my favorite singer and its because of the raspiness in his voice and i love it
OH MY GOD FINALLY MY REQUEST HAS BEEN GRANTED!!YOU THE MAN, CHRIS!!!😍
So Jonny does not smoke. That's new to me. And I have been listening to this guy since 2010.
Thanks for the lesson with the King!! // Fan from Sweden.
Really cool that this is available. Thank you guys for doing this.
I feel certain voices are naturally raspy like that guy's voice and others don't. There is no way I can do that without hurting.
Great video on how to get rasp and grit the healthy way.
Raspy singers are interesting to me, as some have healthy habits and many do not. I go back to old interviews and performances (when they arent sick, and their good shows) to see and hear how they've changed over the years. Many artists with this style tend to have their speaking voices change. Jonny Craig and M Shadows voices have raised in tamber(?) over the years. Their voices were lower when they were younger. I know Shadows has said he started singing unhealthy before he hired his vocal coach to help him keep his sound but protect his voice too. I wonder if they do this on purpose like MJ did to protect his voice, or if its just damage and muscle memory
I SUPPORT CLEAN JONNY! STAY THE COURSE BROTHER YOU GOT THIS! YOU WILL WHOLE ONCE AGAIN! WE LOVE YOU!
It's so awesome to see 3 of you talking about this stuff! Damn! I wish we could get this 10 years ago man... One thing i wish you covered is different ranges of using grit! For me personally it's quite easy to do grit in my chest register up to F#4 maybe G4 (but depends on the sounds I have to make for G). Anyway in head voice or let's say higher mixed voice it's significantly harder to do that same grit... I can't seem to get the sensation of where the grit should be concentrated... where the sound should originate... and Jonny is really good at that... thinking of that intro in "The Past Should Stay Dead". That's the struggle and I imagine I am most likely not the only one having issues with this.
Jonny has been one of my biggest inspirations in music since highschool, hope he is doing well
In terms of rasp and grit, having jonny craig on a lesson is S tier peak education
still loving you johnny
Jonny keep doing you man. Your music is always good.
Where was this video when I wanted to sing with girt so badly?! Thanks so much for making this kind of videos and inviting guests, it's super helpful to learn different approaches.
Also, it helps when I imagine that the "huaaaah" sound is going through my nose and eyes, it allows me to keep it above my voice box.
Awesome, Chris. Real 3D approach so to speak.
I'm not completely confident I'm not tone deaf... yet here I am watching a video on how to sing like Jonny fuckin Craig
What he said at 2:44 MAY have just cracked the code for me. Instead of thinking about rasp, I'm thinking about "air on top of the otherwise clean tone."
YES
excellent video!!!!!
Glad you liked it!
@@chrisliepe as always, you are my favorite vocal teacher Chris, so many helpful tips, stay blessed and strong!! 💪🙏💯😎
Jonny Craig still got it man. Please DGD forgive Jonny and let that next album be amazing
I agree!!!
Omfg Jonny's vocals are incredible
I think this is the closest we can get to hear Jonny Craig scream
listen to Emarosa's I still feel her pt4
And also to Lemon Meringue Tie live on their anniversary tour - there's a video where his screams are better than Jon Mess's
@@NigelGrab jon mess screams aren't the best tbh
@@fabianrodriguez2601 Thats exactly why we love him, no?
@@NigelGrab if I remember correctly, Jon was really sick during that tour
I've been trying to learn to sing like Jørn Lande as he performed on his Pentakill albums and this is a great start for me. I'd love to see his voice analyzed on here.
Always felt he could fill in for Asking Alexandria if they ever needed it.
i've repeated that 1:54 chamona like 23 times, jonny's fucking great
See the way I found it was from the belt. I don't remember starting at the gritty or closed sounds and building it into the belted sound like you guys are doing here. I had to hold the clean belted notes and feel out the sound from there because that helped me keep the balance between note and grit. If I start from the grit and try to sing through it I just choke.
So if I'm understanding correctly, grit is generated via false vocal fold distortion, which when applied lightly will give you grit like Jonny/Bruno Mars/Freddie Mercury, and when applied heavily will be a pitched scream a la Sam Carter?
Exactly
@@chrisliepe My voice has a natural fry engagement to it and I've been exploiting it to bring grit and do pitched scream (basicaly, a loud fry distortion engages automatically when I belt, I need to consciously remove it to have cleaner belts). So far there is no damage to my voice and it never hurt. Is this another technique or am I doing something wrong and should rework my voice engagement?
@@DoomickthePancake There's some major misconceptions out there... It's not actually "Fry". It's different levels of false cord engagement. Everyone calls it fry and that gets confused with actual fry which is loose primary cord engagement. You would do well to practice certain ways of engaging your vocal tract in CLEAN only singing and then learning how to engage mild false cord engagement 'at will'. You might be interested in this? No pressure :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack/
@@chrisliepe Thank you for your reply! I assumed it was fry since it felt like the same kind of off vibrations and resonated higher than my false chord engagements (I feel the vibration in my sinuses almost instead of my soft palate). I already have worked on cleaning my voice and will continue doing so as long as I can.
Wow, after this video I finally managed to engage my false chords consiously. Thank you! (I tried for a few months already and was only able to use fry screams)
Very helpful! Thank you for a great lesson!
I learned rasp from imitating chris sabbot's Vegeta from DBZ
Fuckin GOAT comment rh
Jesus fuck Johnny Craig AND Spencer!? I'd kill to have been a fly on the wall for the entire time you guys were hanging out lmao
Make sure you sign up for Jonny's free course we talk about in the video! Spencer and Jonny co wrote and produced two songs while they were out here at my studio... AND we did a course around it! If you sign up for this free one, you'll get an invite to that experience with Spencer and Jonny!
@@chrisliepe ON MY WAY
Omg, the song he sings in the beginning is freaking awesome, someone knows the name or what's it about? I need this song full released in my life right now! haha
Unreleased! :)
@@chrisliepe but its some project he's on it or something? I need more news please! Hahah
He be looking healthy - good to see
Not really a fan of how Chris "confirms" his grit in his voice is a result of drug use lol, you can see how J has grown because he can objectively view this without being defensive.
He did it as tactfully as possible. To avoid it completely and pretend like that wasnt a big part of JC's career (and affected his vocals) would be phony & patronizing I think
This was awesome. Dude has a solid voice, I love that subtle grit, so sexy haha.
1:07 whatever song that is holy shit it slays
This MF got Jonny Craig AND Spencer Sotelo in the same room....
That is amazing
Great video!!
I was practicing this... my neighbours called an exorcist!
Wait. It works I heard something different from my voice. 💜
Thanks A lot 😊
9:24 how our ancestors used to talk
First thing to let me do grit or anything remotely distorted without feeling like I'll regret it an awful lot if I continue. It felt bubbly/crackly but "smooth".
what a cold smooth grit
"from years of drug use" - guy was like wtf is this a intervention?! hahah
9:23 you're welcome. (turns to cavemen communicating)
It's fun and games until someone goes Ultra Instinct/Ego and the bus pass goes flying
"HuuuUhuu" - Jenny Keurig
only youtube tutorial that actually helped! thankss
Chris! Have you ever heard of Yannis Papadopoulos? I’d love to see you tackle some power metal vocalists because they’re so insane. I also think your voice would fit super well in the genre. You should check out some of his clips and maybe do a video on him! Dude’s got grit for days and plays with it in a super exaggerated, wacky way.
I have not, but I will check him out!
@@chrisliepe search him up on TH-cam and you’ll see a bunch of vocal coaches looking like 😶
35 years of smoking weed will NOT guarantee you a raspy voice, trust me, haha
Tensing my lower torso does however, break up my voice to some degree adding rasp and grit to my singing voice.
One of many tips from Chris that's helped my singing over the last year.
LMAO I don't have a naturally raspy voice but I can engage it really easily, although being a stoner never played a part into it I think
Always DOWNWARD! join my free course for more info on that! Jonny’s doesn’t cover that but any of my other videos link to my free course which will help you dial in your support :)
What's the song he's singing in 01:02 ? Can't find it anywhere :/
What a fantastic content thank you so much guys
i could imagine a young corey taylor watching these videos like "wait, its BAD if my throat bleeds?" 😂
Chris be yoked, I see those biceps 💪
"We'll stick with drug use... and, and maybe some alcohol in there"
😂😂😂😂
Lol
Raspy sounds sick😂😂😂😂
It's interesting that you equate a grunt with damage to the voice. I could engage and disengage a natural grunt since I was around 8, and if anything i barely used my voice otherwise, so it's likely a natural human sound that we are taught away from, and the negation of it is artificial, it's the most natural of human sounds, and the key to doing the movie announcer voice.
Won’t this method dry out the throat quickly though ? Would you recommend only doing this for a few minutes max to avoid drying out the chord’s?
In the beginning, when you're learning the balances, you can dry out... But take it in short instances and drink lots of water!
Okay, but hold up just a second because I would listen the fuck out of 1:04. Excuse the ignorance but is this a released song, or demo?
This one was just for a demo. But we did record some new music while he was out here!
@@chrisliepe That’s awesome! I’ve greatly enjoyed the series so far. Always like Jonny back from the emarosa days. Good stuff!
How can i work more on placing the sound up?
Chris, I really am struggling with singing , I can sing clean, my tonality isnt great but I try to add distortion and I find it super hard to balance it out. I tend to go to much into the screamy sound, and I'm holding back so much here. Its just so much fry. And that's not what I am trying to achieve. The pitch screams sound fun, but I want more simply gritty high cleans. What do I do?
Start by joining my free course linked in most of my videos. This one Jonny Craig video so it doesn’t have a link to the specific free course I’m talking about, but almost every other video has a link that says: FREE VOICE LESSONS. Start there :)
air, blocage, pushing... is it really safe ? I'm actually lost.
It’s safe if done correctly. Check out many of my other videos on the channel!
Can you please make an analysis for Rory Rodriguez's (Dayseeker) voice? I just can't understand his technique at all
Chris I would think that you are a clear tenor but Jonny has a way higher, yet lighter speaking voice, like he doesn't project or hit as much with his voice when talking kinda reminds me of Michael Jackson, is this the difference between tenors or could you guys sound like each other with different approaches or what? I think I'm a tenor but compared to others like Bruno Mars or something I more 'hit' notes than glide effortlessly through them, also it is hard to bring any bassyness into my sound at all so I try to make up for it with rasp
Omg where is the metal version of this song UUhghhhhghghgh!!!!
haha
Step one: HUH
Step two: remember the stages of HUH
Step three: rasp/grit
Is grit just less intense fry scream? I mean, the positioning for those are the same?
Depends on what you mean by "fry scream" - there are so many of these terms out there, it's hard to always know what one means when they use a term like that. For me, a fry scream is when you make that "popping" sound like when you just wake up or you're very tired, hold that sound, and kind of "push" into it.
If that's what you mean by fry, then it's not really the same, even if a lot of the same vocal muscles and tissues are used. You can kiiind of try to get to grid by doing fry and then moderating it (blending it in with your regular voice), but this has never worked well for me, because your fry scream (or at least my fry scream) is a sensitive little snowflake sometimes, and breaks up whenever you push too much.
IMHO, Chris' approach with holding back air and pushing against that is much better, gets you there much quickly, and is much easier to do because it's something that we do naturally (when lifting heavy stuff or dropping our unmentionables down the toilet). We don't naturally blend our vocal fry with our regular voice on purpose, this is something that people never do in their regular speech. You're only ever "naturally" in fry when you're on the bottom of your vocal range, and using as little air as possible to speak/sing, so the chords don't close properly.
Highly recommend that you check out his free vocal course, it really helps lay down these fundamentals quickly and gets you in the right mindset about these things
@@dzamija922 wow, thanks for the reply. I'm aware that fry scream means different stuff, but I meant what Chris did at 10:37, and I think Chris also uses term fry scream for those louder screams.
I tried experimenting with this approach of lifting heavy stuff, and kinda managed to go smoothly from really light grit to full fry scream, so I assumed the positioning for both of these things is the same, it didnt hurt, but I'm still not sure if its correct.
This video will clear up how I approach “fry screaming” and grit. Hope it’s helpful! th-cam.com/video/8dEAsDl4NTU/w-d-xo.html
Drugs and cigarettes won't help you with the rasp, I learned the hard way.
I can do false chords scream very well, if I add false cord to my voice I can do it in chest voice, but no falsetto/mixed/high notes... I still haven't been able to make rasp whatever videos I watched. The only couple of times I managed was after screaming the whole night at a concert. Any tips? Been watching videos for 6years now
but how do I place it ABOVE the voice box?? help pleaseeee
I’ve done lots of videos on the channel about just that! Search the channel for compression and grit !
I feel it on the roof my mouth near the back.
Is that right?
Ah man I've been hhhhhhhhhhhing along this whole video and at the end he's like "it's important to warm up first"