Karen Read jury says they're deadlocked, judge sends them back to continue deliberating
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- The jury sent a note to the judge saying they can't come to a unanimous decision. WBZ-TV's Cheryl Fiandaca offers her insight into the case and what this situation entails.
Ex cop on jury is the problem guaranteed
That or a patsy
It wouldn't surprise me
X cop should have been disqualified
I just made that comment. @@sierravista9013
ABSOLUTELY or the fact that those SHADY McAlberts sat in that room to intimidate the jurors and I believe they have
This is absolutely ridiculous. There's a mountain of reasonable doubt. It is scary they don't seem to understand she does not have to be proven innocent (if this is even why they're deadlocked). Either way, what a disgrace.
Yes!! There’s a mountain of extreme doubt!
How can the Scientific evidence just be ignored?
Jury intimidation hmm I wonder who yes we know who.
Funny cop shows up dead at atf agents house and atf agent has fractured wrist,both victim and defendant phones scrubbed,yet police arrested girlfriend.
Government could frame you next,wake up America.
This is disgusting.
If they can do this to a person like Karen Read, a profesional, highly educated lady and citizen, with the means to hire a totally capable defense team, imagine what they would do to less fortunate citizens.
This is absurd and criminal.
What does a professional and highly educated lady and citizen have to do with it. Anyone can take part in an accidental, or deliberate act towards their significant other under the influence, coupled with anger. It happens more than we would like it to. And, it will happen again and again.
@@doloressosa4351 Just because she is educated and her family has deep pockets is a ridiculous reason to find her not guilty. John O'Keefe deserves justice. He is DEAD because of her actions. Ted Bundy was highly educated also.
@@doloressosa4351 If you've been watching from the beggining you would know she's being framed.
It’s a coverup.
Nice day.
People makes mistakes!! Every walk of life
@@Lildarlin1 Agree.
Not in this case.
Have you ever had a teacher/manager/boss that just doesn’t like you and you can feel how much they don’t like you in all your interactions? That’s how I feel about the judge/karen dynamic
This Is going in history of court cases.
For sure
Not at all...
I don’t know how anyone could be holding out for guilty given the evidence presented. Really unbelievable!
Omg you have to either be corrupt or it's A real STUPID PERSON/PERSONS!!!!!
Well, there is idiots out there
Truly unimaginable in this case! Wonder what ties it could be to the “dark” side? It makes you wonder … money talks & this town is SO crooked …
The lack of evidence you mean? Lol
She’s guilty as can be
This judge is so biased. Worst judge ever
She knows the players personally, she should have excused herself.
Wrong, she just doesn’t make every ruling in favor of your position, is all.
Don’t blame the judge it’s not her fault she doing her job. She’s not saying that she’s guilty and She’s not saying that she’s is guilty. She does not make that call. That is the juries responsibility. She wants them to come to a conclusion Whether it be guilty or not guilty. I don’t blame her because of all the time they spent on this case it was 32 days of countless Exhibits, People coming in and testifying, Lawyers getting paid a lot of money, Jury sitting for 32 days, and the Judge Who has other court cases that she has to attend to Besides this one. On the other hand, do you understand that if they remain deadlocked, they will have to go back through this whole entire process with a new jury which means more time more money and more Wasting peoples time to come back to make the same testimonies. So I don’t blame her, she’s right they need to come to a conclusion whether it be guilty or not guilty
@@TBrl8 No, she is corrupt and biased. She should have recused herself immediately.
Facts!!!!!!
I figured this might happen after day 2 and no verdict. So shocking that others saw something else during the trial then I did. I saw NO evidence against her.
Agreed
Absolutely agree 🤦@@koreyfournier1380
I saw no evidence that the victim was struck by a motor vehicle..
Also agree. I don’t think the CW met their burden at all- not even in the ball park. If the state retries KR, she’ll have to essentially pay for another trial. Crazy.
Did not meet the burden of proof , not even close!
The experts said he wasn’t hit by a car…what is going on
She said “I hit him, I hit him”.
But the experts proved she didn't@@TBrl8
@@TBrl8 You cannot argue the physics
@@TBrl8you mean the person who has been caught lying about multiple things said she said that she hit him then blatantly lied about her search history.
@@TBrl8 Exactly!!
Justice for John , free Karen
Exactly my belief.
The Karen Read fans can care less for John O’Keefe it’s all about free Killer Karen and harassing the O’Keefe family. Shameful shameful
@@judyberends7021justice for John find karen read guilty
Justice for Officer John O’keefe, JAIL Karen Read
@@barbaradodge1442 thank you sad not to many people care about his family.
This is a solid deadlock. One wants guilty: the rest are for not guilty.
I'll never understand why ppl feel the need to assert and believe things they couldn't possibly know.
@@drewc771 Agreed 1000%
@@drewc771it’s everywhere and I drives me crazy
I think the prosecution didn't prove without reasonable doubt but still how can you possibly claim to know this haha why comment this? So dumb
No one noes if just one person is saying gulity and the rest is saying not gulity so stop already unless your in the same room with him u can't no how many are saying gulity and how many are saying not gulity.
Hard to believe that anyone can't see the mountains of reasonable doubt.
Obviously there are two camps here. Believe the flashy conspiracy, or believe the evidence.
how can they not be unanimous not guilty yet? Two reconstruction experts, hugely credentialed independent of the defense or the prosecution, say that "it is impossible that JO was hit by Karen's car" if her car didn't hit JO then none of the rest of it is possible. The end, period, end of discussion.
the ex-cop who the judge chose to be the jury foreman is probably a paid plant.
My guess is that the Jury foreman in charge has been chosen by the Judge and is bias and adamant that Karen Reed is guilty and the rest of the Jury are not going budge on their decision. We will probably find out the odd duck is a police officer.
We all understood the Judge was bias and didn’t even want to put a place for Not Guilty On the ballot for the jurors.
Because they are going by pictures. Pictures lie. They should have gone to scene.
McAlberts (two families) have killed at least twice now. Don't think the locals knowing the corruption and support from the legal system won't do it again?
The prosecution’s plant (most likely the appointed ex-cop foreman) can’t budge the others.
Can't believe he is on this njury
Conspiracy BS.
@@TBrl8how else? There’s no evidence?? Stop being ridiculous
OH PLEASE, THERE IS NO PLANT ON THE JURY!
They planted every other piece of evidence and you think they did not plant a juror? If juror a cop or close relative they should not be there period...
I wonder how many have been intimidated by the Albert, McCabe, Police
Brian A, Jenn, and Collin did see the jury. Bet they were scared if them.
@@cristipratt2844Zero zilch nada. You are living in the twilight zone if you think these people are intimidating. What kind of boring life are you all living that you fall for this complete set of made-up conspiracy theories by the Defense. How can the rational people get through to you all. It is just mind boggling what you will fall for. You do realize this is their goal and you have fallen prey to them.
QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS!!
I wonder how many have been intimidated by all the pink shirts outside?
But @ least the Snowplow Driver wasn't ...
Just another great example of how stupid our society has become.
They found Casey Anthony not guilty of murdering her daughter. Anything can happen when incompetence is in charge.
I wouldn’t say everyone is stupid as much information as they had to go over without having an incredible amount of conversation with others as well as the internet to rely upon. I think before I watched the trial I thought she was probably responsible for his death and although I don’t think they were all in on it that most likely a couple of dirty cops were behind it and everyone else just chose to stand behind their own.
@@user-tq1dv2yr6p I would imagine its down to one person who isnt willing to budge
@@wo1463 The Ex cop!
@@user-tq1dv2yr6pshe? Karen? Responsible in what way? The plow operator would have seen his body and the lack of injury to show he was hit by a car say a not guilty verdict should have been reached in a few minutes, if not a few hours…..
She’s clearly not guilty.
Nope.GUILTY
Than why not verdict.
Obviously not
She is clearly SO Guilty....
Guilty 😔...
The jury needs to be reminded of what reasonable doubt is.
Corruption corruption corruption
I knew this was coming. You think corruption doesn’t make it to the jury pool?
There's no way a reasonable juror can listen to experts state categorically J.O was almost certainly not hit by a vehicle and not agree there's reasonable doubt as to the prosecution's claims
Agreed!
@@niahoward1920..How did he get his injuries
@@sarahmurphy8030 He has animal bites on his right arm. He has injuries to his face, the back of his head consistent with a fight and possible fall onto concrete. Also his phone recorded 60 steps after K.R dropped him off at the Alberts. The evidence is overwhelming. It's unbelievable the trial was even brought let alone there's a reasonable juror who thinks she's been proved guilty
@@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons agreed …100%
@@sarahmurphy8030
Did you not watch the trial?
I have not followed this case but how does a police officer die in mysterious circumstances while hanging around his police officer friends and that same police department leads the investigation? And then the jury must decide while living under the jurisdiction of this same police department? Perhaps they fear blowback from police who then investigate themselves
They didn't . Went to the state police ... And the lead investigator was friends with the home owner.
That's just the start of this mess.
@Channel99-1No, they did not.
@Channel99-1 If I were seeking truth and justice? Yes.
Karen found John immediately, under a foot of snow, raging blizzard, zero visibility right where she hit him. What a coincidence
Yannetti pleaded it was an accident. Then Jackson was called and made up the conspiracy
@maureen interesting!
All o know is I hope the real truth comes out. The defense has done one hell of a job if that’s the case!
If the cops can get away this easy folks, we are in big trouble as “free” citizens. This is about as corrupt as you get. Can’t believe this wait, can’t wait to hear what’s going on.
As my Grandfather always said “They’re all in on it!”
She's a DIRTY Judge!!!
No, just your undergarments
You have no way of knowing that, it's a slanderous claim.
@@patricias5122 yep
@@freddyjisp6452 yeah ok
@@freddyjisp6452 how funny.
There’s got to be a McAlbert plant on that jury
I absolutely agree!!
I believe it
Absolutely ridiculous this should have been done already with not guilty
Jury left early two days in a row and only deliberated 3 hrs today. They need to work more but I do not think they will reach a verdict even with time.
I feel like they are giving up. Good grief it's only been a couple of days!!
There's no chance of them doing full days with this lazy judge. She starts work at 9 and wants to go home by lunch time 😮
@@SM-kh1ozthey left at 4 16
@SM-kh1oz No. When they sent the note to the Judge saying they were deadlocked that had only put in 3 hrs today.
@spacenerd9499 I think there is a hold out. The Judge will need to keep them at it.
The judge chose the Foreman? Wow.
He's an ex-cop and most likely the paid plant.
The judge in the Murdaugh case chose the foreperson also. It happens
@@lindafinch1520I do not doubt it one bit. This stuff happens!!!
@@lindafinch1520He's an x cop? I didn't know that. There seems to be something fishy going. After the FBI experts testified, there is no way they can say she hit him and caused him to die. Was Mr Albert in the courtroom to intimidate someone?
Judge is only going to make the jury mad
Well that happened a long time ago.
That’s what I just said. If you aren’t letting me go home, I’m sticking to a NOT GUILTY verdict. The judge knows these people on the prosecution’s side. She should have recused herself.
@@deannabennett2589 jury .take your time.make her sweat
How is it not clear that there is reasonable doubt here???
So the judge basically said don't come back until you have a guilty verdict.
Exactly right .. the entire bunch of them are crooked!
No the judge has said that the jury can’t possibly have had time to review all the evidence in the time given at this point and should continue deliberating. And I agree with her. I also believe there’s no way this can possibly be a guilty verdict.
Yeah, if you watch court trials you should know that this happens, the judge isn’t corrupt! It’s the process
Of course the judge would say this !
Yes she is so biased
She’s that teacher no one wanted.
Doesn’t matter what side your on there simply is NOT SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. There is a difference between guilty and evidence to prove guilty.
TIME WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE! Just great to see that there are Jury members … THAT CHOICE NOT TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY!!!
This judge wants a guilty verdict! They must be putting money in her pocket
Absolutely!!
Some people actually believe she’s guilty.
BIAS. I would NOT want to be a juror on this case. Not guilty should be their verdict
@@deannabennett2589 I wouldn’t either!
Oh boy, the conspiracy keeps growing..
Seriously? How could anyone on the jury convict her? The trial showed us all what a crock of an investigation it was.
Not guilty by so much reasonable doubt
Very guilty....
So guilty....
This lady is absolutely not guilty! And if anyone thinks she is. I can only hope that they Never ever get picked for a trial. A person has be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. There is tons of reasonable doubt in this case!
I guess only some of the jurors have allowed themselves to be intimidated and coerced. Honestly, where is the Federal government?
Six men and six women jury. I wouldn't be surprised if they're stuck right down the middle. I don't see a verdict coming here.
Allegedly there is an ex cop on the jury. I wouldn’t be shocked if things were divided more on those lines. I’ve seen plenty of men saying they think she’s innocent
There’s so much reasonable doubt makes me wonder if they got to one of the jurors
This goes to show that there are some jurors who are not buying the prosecutions bull.
And some jurors are not buying Jackson’s story either, you seem to fail to understand.
I would guess its 80% of them that think she is innocent. It only takes 1 person to hold up all the others, and it only takes one McAlbert pocket jury member to hold them up.
Exhausted jury is done ! To force any exhausted jurors to stay until decision is forcing a jury to say anything they possibly can just to get home and sleep !
It’s sad because the life of a woman is in their hands.
If the Jury said, "they exhausted all efforts & CAN'T come to an agreement". That's an automatic mis-trial. This Judge making them go back & deliberate is a blatantly disregard to the Jurors decision!!!
Not it's not. I was on a jury and the same thing happened. Got sent back.
Exactly the judge is looking for a guilty verdict
They usually do that once or twice.
No....calm down. You're a friend of the defendant. That is very typical for a hung jury. You are making a fool of yourself.
@@tinafelicianoedwards8398 Good grief, the level of ignorance about the judicial system among these TH-camrs is appalling.
If there is a Juror who thinks that Karen Read is Guilty, how will they ever come to a conclusion?
At some point they will call a hung jury and re-try her.
The ex cop on the jury undoubtedly is the hold up
I hope the federal investigation gets these officials. This is terrible
@@CZMuzic2714 why doesnt he want to stand up for the murdered cop?
@@Fatedcauze she is in jail correct?
The Judge wants a Guilty Verdict, how insane
The jury deliberated 2 hours on Tuesday,
Went home early on Wednesday,
Went home early on Thursday,
And on Friday, only 3 hours before they told the judge they are deadlocked!
Karen Read’s life is in their hands, but they don’t seem to care.
Alan Jackson presented all the evidence, forensic told them that Boston police Officer John O'Keefe injuries weren’t from her SUV.
One of the final witnesses was a retired forensic pathologist who testified Monday that some of O'Keefe's injuries were inconsistent with being struck by the Lexus SUV.
Clear as water, and this jurors can’t see it.
THEY NEED TO POLL THE JURY PRIVATELY OR BEFORE THE COURT.
YES!!!
They will.
Hopefully jury will take more days .KR is SOOOO GUILTY
@@MichellePoorman-sn1zy nah she's not
@@americanbeauty4015 yeah she is.i have a right to my opinion
Told you! Deadlocked!!! Not at all surprised. And this case WILL NOT be retried.
It MUST BE RETRIED under the DUE PROCESS, which is allowed for EVERYONE under the CONSTITUTION. For the JUDGE to just send them back without declaring a MISTRIAL IS ILLEGAL AS HELL.
Yep
@@ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148 why do you feel the need to use caps. You’re either an emotional liberal or a narcissist assuming his/her audience are stupid.
A mistrial from deadlock is not a dismissal with prejudice, the Prosecution can retry the case given if it does not violate Read's due process right (speedy trial right) unless Read waived her right.
It's the same as the trial never happened, which mean the Prosecution have 6 months to retry Read. If they had not refiled the case in 6 months, then the speedy trial right of Read will be violated, and she cannot be retired again.
Get a f life.
I cannot stand her smirk and smiles.
So which juror is being paid off by the prosecutors ?? Lmao
I expected a verdict same day .. this is wild
I served on a jury in Massachusetts and we deliberated for 3 days and we were sent back twice But we did come to a unanimous verdict in the end
I'm in MA too. Been called up 2x but not picked for jury. Would like to serve in a criminal case.
What was the breakdown of guilty vs not guilty votes when you were initially deadlocked?
Why do they find the most idiotic jurors for high profile cases! Don’t get me started on the judge
The judge Can't make them find something That's Not there .💯 Not guilty !!!!!!
It’s there with the witnesses in the very beginning. They all heard her say she hit something, she said she hit him. That’s it. Only people that want to believe otherwise won’t see it.
All the crooked witnesses involved in a coverup, those witnesses have no credibility.
She also can't allow them to declare being deadlocked after such a short time in deliberations. Deadlocked means there is disagreement within the jurors, somewhere. So, while YOU might think they "can't find something that's not there", some members of the jury ARE finding something. The judge sending the jury back is so that they can further deliberate and try to work the issues out. Judges routinely do that. No one knows the split in a jury. It could be one holdout for guilty. It could be one holdout for not guilty. If a mistrial is declared, it means that this will have to be tried all over again, with a new jury. She won't be set free.....she will have to sit in prison until the process is repeated. I've seen people be retried, 3 and 4 times. So, cool your jets....it's best for everyone that the jury continues deliberations.
That's why the form was set~up the way it was, b4 Jackson called them out on it...
The jury is tainted and needs to be investigated also
Cut it out. This is as a ridiculous assertion as the cult ideas being shared.
Omg everyone but Karen is guilty! You people are ridiculous!
That one actually made me laugh, because of the absurdity of the comment.
Deadlocked! Did they vet that jury? It is blatantly obvious this woman is innocent. 🤬
Where is the ring footage or cctv from 34 fairview
This crooked JUDGE needs to allow the jury to make their decision not to make the jury go back in ! This is crazy its like the Judge is saying she is Guilty
Evidently you have not been watching the trial from the beginning or you would know that the judge is biased and would say she's guilty along with the prosecution
Oh I see now you did say she would be guilty my bad
The judge gets to go home , the jury goes to a hotel , the jury can't leave until your Auntie Bev says so !
I'd be terrified to be on this jury. No matter what they decide someone is coming after them
The jury doesn't know what we know...
I agree!
Yes they do you’re mentally ill get help.
I amazed that even only one juror can honestly found KRA guilty after all the doubts we've seen last 2 months. Shocked and Horrow!
Can’t even trust a jury of your peers these days.. our system is over
So is the judge holding the jury hostage until they come back with a guilty verdict WTH
Purely, jury abuse!
Corrupt cops and corrupt prosecutors
She is so guilty....
Never ever have i seen a judge try so hard to have someone convicted. She has lied and claimed karen was smearking hoping to change the mind of people watching she has spoke so rude and uneducated. She should be dis bared
Karen WAS smirking throughout the trial, which struck me as an odd demeanor, as well. And I'm sure the jury took notice of that, too. A person's behaviors, appearance, mannerisms are all carefully watched by a jury, and can leave a lasting impression with them. The judge is there to keep the court in order, make sure the law is followed, and to assist in any issues that come up between lawyers. She must ethically remain unbiased, but that doesn't mean she won't scold lawyers or anyone else if she feels they are behaving unprofessionally. She isn't there to be the social welcoming staff. She is there to rule over the case.
Not Guilty what are they doing
Probably one hold out.
She is the one that said I hit him
Jury is probably considering that
They can’t have access to that report. AND they don’t have the transcripts.
8 weeks of long days and they’re expected to go off of their notes? Of which the judge had specified instructions on.
All with the extra long instructions and the change of that verdict slip, it is in fact too much to handle sitting in a closed room with 11 strangers all day with the clock ticking knowing that the world is waiting.
This controversial case shouldn’t have been accepted in the first place. This is jury abuse!
Not jury abuse that's their job and if they didn't want it they should have said so from get Go
So unless the verdict is not what the judge wants to hear she is gonna send them back …. All this judge wants is guilty, absolutely disgusting
This is crazy - this case is overflowing with reasonable doubt!
Yet, if the jury had ome back within two hours with a verdict for guilty, the judge would have accepted it.
Yes because that is a verdict. Not the same scenario.
Corruption at its finest!!!
The case was flawed. There was only one cause of death explored and that cause was not proven beyond doubt.
Boy this cases gets better everyday!
They haven’t spent enough time , it was a long trial and mountains of evidence. They’ve had shortened days , I agree with the ruling . Jury wants out especially bc we have a holiday next week . They need to continue working !
Totally agree
Murdaugh trial was 9 weeks.. they came back with a verdict in under 5hrs.. js
@@danagorham2083 well that’s murdaugh jurors , these are different people . Not everyone thinks like you
Over 600 pieces of evidence
It was a long case and there a long of absurd exhibits because of the Commonwealth and lousy ADA Lally. I’m outraged!
I will bet anything its onle ONE JUROR who is holding out on "not guilty." We will later find out they are a friend of ones of the families.
Is Trouper Proctor in there with them?
Only about 10% of cases are hung
And it is normal for a judge to have them keep deliberating
Some judges have sent them back several times
This judge isnt gonna stop till Karen Read is in jail .
Still waiting on that evidence 🫤
Shame on Carrie Roberts and Albert's using John's family as a shield. Like they care.
Angry Jackson. Not a slam dunk after all
😱 America at its finest
It's not dead locked. One maybe two jurors are compromised.
And you know that, how?
@debramarble2197 the same way you don't know how many people are being twisted to win.
@batchelerjr strange answer. I don't know anything that's happening in that jury room...and neither do you.
@@debramarble2197 stop drinking koolade so you realize there are no secrets and all behavior has been repeated for thousands of years. You don't get out much.
@debramarble2197 that's because you drink the koolaide Debra. You don't even know yourself so you're right. How in the hell could you tell. There are people who know exactly what they are thinking in deliberations. Just not you
Well, I don’t blame the judge that’s a lot of time that’s a lot of money. I mean that was a very long case that was 32 days and now this is the fourth day that they’re waiting for a verdict. Not to mention the family that lost this man and the friends that lost his man. If They decide not to make a judgment and stay deadlocked and they will have to have Another case Another trial Meaning, More money and more time I don’t blame her for wanting to get Justice for their family so they can have closure. They need to come to a conclusion based What Think is fair and right.
She (corrupt judge) does not want justice! She wants Guilty.
The jury is going to be overjoyed when they can talk to the media ! They will have a whole choir of singing birds about the judge!
Where’s the dog?
Probably buried in the filled in pool
Something is VERY wrong here.
Yes....she is so guilty 😔.
Looks like this judge wants Karen to go to prison
Don't know if she's guilty or not, but I also don't think that the state proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. It's more important for the citizens, that if the prosecution fails to thoroughly do their job, that a jury should find a defendant not guilty than it is to find that person guilty "just in case."
In fact, it's vital to maintain our democracy. The state has to live up to their responsibilities - every single time...
It's a hellva burden for everyday people to reach a consensus on such a complicated case. Shame on you people poopooing the process and impugning false motives.
It's not a very bright bunch here
We got to see so many things that the judge never allowed, and we saw her full blow bias-they didn’t get to see all that.
If this doesn't show that someone on the jury was PAID OFF then I don't know what does.
Dirty judge. Disbarment
You have proof, correct
Karen the terrible...
They’ve had shortened days. She disagrees with the defense pretty much as a rule.
What a mess. Get it together people.
I think there's one hold out for "guilty," most likely planted by the judge and/or mcalberts. They all have very far reaching connections.